On this week’s episode of GOLF’s Subpar, former NHL players Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonnette join Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The hosts of the Spittin’ Chiclets podcast talk their unlikely rise to sports media stardom, the origins of their Sandbagger Invitational series and how they would go about organizing the next version of “The Match.”
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All right here we go welcome back to another episode of golf subpar with Colt no and Drew stoz Sev before we get going this week we are excited to announce our partnership with Callaway golf and the Paradigm AI smoke family Callaway’s latest Golf Club line is designed with extensive player data and a
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Than chipping TI to chipping a little bit other than that everything’s fine not freak out yeah it’ll get good we’re just getting into a major season let me tell you his game doesn’t need to be tightened at all Scotty sheffler didn’t get the job done going in as a two and a
Half to one favorite missed a five footer on the last to force a playoff with Steven jger but the just this role this guy on just is unbelievable but Steven jger picks up his first PGA Tour win I don’t think this is a surprise to anyone this guy’s been knocking on the
Door for a while he’s won six times on the corn fairy tour believe this is his third top three of the year um congratulations to him one of the best dudes out there and by the way just has totally changed his game he went from kind of a short crooked hitter to
Absolutely smashes it and hits seeds yeah there’s that’s kind of the blueprint right it’s crazy what he’s done in like terms of you watch it how quickly or how he’s moved up the world golf rankings it’s like all right what’s changed what have you gotten better at
It’s literally just driver like he made a conscious effort I’m going to do all the speed training going to start hitting it harder and he’s not only hitting it harder he’s hitting it straighter too dude he’s sixth in total driving this year on the PJ tour like
When you think of the best drivers in golf like no offense Stephen Jer like he’s not a name that comes mind and I know everyone was looking for Scotty the three you know the back to back to back deal which is really really hard to do really rare in golf but like the
Feel-good aspect of Stephen jger getting it done after being close so many times playing so good winning like you said six times on the corn fre tour that’s great to have but nobody wants to be like the most winning the winningest guy on the corn fairy tour for him to get
That done and then you see like Joel Damon coming out and speaking about him and things like that it was a pretty cool cool win for Stephen and by the way he did it he had to go toe to- Toe with Scotty the best in the world buy a long
Shot in the final round to get it done yeah didn’t back down for one second I I would have to think by the way shout out step jger to member of the 58 Club correct the big cat Aaron Fleer on the back oh that’s what fer does dude no
Bogies 58s what do you want want to be great get the cat voice of an Angel yeah get him while he can before he signs that deal yeah but I think looking back at this week this is going to be one like Scotty shuffler his confidence is
An alltime high but this is one he’s going to think I I gave that one away I I mean you look at the silly little three putt on Friday from 6 feet that stopped his consecutive rounds under par on the PGA tough way to lose that streak
Which was wild 22in putt yeah and then you go in there and you go to Saturday little 121 yard par three which was awesome by the way I love it they had that nasty little pin up front he landed it short which he couldn’t do spun back
In the water made double there and just the five footer at the last to force playoff but like when you’re the best player in the world I know that his putting gets questioned a lot but it’s been so good as of late I don’t think anybody in the world thought he was
Going to missed that no I didn’t when he hit it in there I was like here we go like Jagger’s been doing everything he’s needing to do he’s got a chance to win this thing Scotty hits his approach on the 7 second I was like and he’s going
To make that and he’s going to win a playoff like you just kind of expect even when his stuff’s not the best like he still finds a way to win he was still with all kind of the little boo boos that he had he was still positive Strokes gain putting again even though
He had some little misses he seems to be making way more 12 15f Footers like with Pace that just like you weren’t seeing a whole lot of that early in the season and yeah I think it’s one that he looks back on like probably should have had
That do I think it affects Scotty in any way shape or form going into austa no if anything maybe it gives him a little fire in his belly like damn that kind of pisses me off let’s go do it at Augusta but zero stress on Scotty sh I mean dude
It’s like him versus the field in a tournament like that which is just he was two and a half one and I mean look there everyone’s taking notice he has now moved in a lot of books to four to one to win The Masters at the at a major
This isn’t like some oneoff non elevant non signature event where there’s only a few guys playing like this is it this is as good as it gets and he’s 4 to one I mean that’s a round tiger Prime type stuff close to it and I mean it’s
Getting that time of year now where everyone’s like oh who do you like at the Masters who do you like and I’m like really guys who do I like I mean there’s one guy that just jumps off the page now could there be too much pressure too
Much talk about him going in and he doesn’t perform maybe but right now uh I think he’s going to damn sure be a factor normally it’s around this time of year we start to hear all the Rory like is this the year Rory’s going to get the
Grand Slam Rory this and it’s like all Rory and then leading up to the Masters once he gets there of course that and like I haven’t heard like a peep about that this year it’s pretty much just Scotty dominating all the headlines which I think probably everybody else in
The field those guys love that uh it’s hard to play when when there’s really no upside for you other than you win or it’s a disappointment yes for sure but I will say this with Scotty like he doesn’t listen to all the outside noise doesn’t social media he doesn’t give a
Damn he’s show up he’s going to be ready to go and he’s probably going to play really well I’d be floored if he wasn’t right there Sunday back nine I’m not saying he’s going to win it for sure but like if he’s not a factor in it I think
Everybody in golf would be shocked there’s just it’s hard for him to play bad right now but congratulations Steph joerger very well well earned well deserved I mean he been knock awesome love to see it he’ll be teing up at the Masters next week so congratulations to
Him and you mentioned Scotty going for three in a row well it did just happen on the lpj tour got to give a shout out to Nelly Corda who just won Earth third start in a row she is a monster damn near happened on both tours at the same
Time um yeah watching her swing it too that’s uh I would copy that that’s one to look at and just try to have some osmosis because it’s hard to see where that goes wrong um one thing do want to address last week episode Chris Dem Marco which I thought was awesome um we
Had a little I’d say a little slip up on our social handle where we we put a quote out there which we did not want anything negative to go on Chris Marco he said something I thought he was kind of joking around about it um it it it
Took off and apologize to Chris for any NE negativity he got we definitely didn’t want to mean that we didn’t mean for that to happen um but just wanted to address that yeah it was a quote that he said about you know I wish I wish Liv
Would buy the champions tour maybe we could play for some real money like it was to if you actually listen to the interview you could hear it was said and Jess you and I chuckled it wasn’t a serious thing we were talking about how quickly guys are moving up the career
Money list and Scotty sheffer’s 11th now and like look how long Chris played do you wish you were playing in this era was basically kind of what we were talking about but if you just read the quote on Twitter on and just read it you can’t really tell the context and yeah
It can come off as bad so um I thought it was said in Jess you and I chuckled that I don’t think Chris was serious in any way shape or form but I know he took some heat for it and like yeah we got to
Do a better job making sure what goes up on our social you know we’re not the ones posting it like that could be easily misconstrued so just want to address that but that interview with Chris was awesome I came think it was great yeah I didn’t even remember him
Saying that at the time you know when it went up when it went up okay enough serious stuff let’s get to our episode this week you know I know you’re a huge hockey fan I’m a hockey player die hard I’m not just a fan dude I’m a player
Great point but I honestly I’m a huge hockey fan and these guys we have on they have just done unbelievable things with their career they were they were very good players obviously in the NHL speaking of Ryan Whitney and Paul biset otherwise known as Biz nasty but what
They have done since they quit playing started the spit and chicklas podcast Biz nasty over on TNT they are just incredible they are I feel like we have a lot in common like they just they love their Sport and they like to make it fun and that’s exactly what we do but
Spending the day with these boys they they came in used our studio to film their show we went out and played golf sat down with them had dinner and I don’t know if I’ve ever laughed that much in a in a day it was fantastic you
Got to buckle up you got to come ready put your helmet on Buckle the chin strap when the boys are in town you got to come ready to play playing golf with them with spectacular uh Wht really good player low handicap beautiful golf swing plays with no glove which I love by the
Way and then Biz uh short golf swing maybe not as quite as much of a die hard but uh likes to get out there and compete and loves to gamble and just have a good time and D they’re just like you said it in theory I would hope like I would
Like to be what they are to go you know what they are to go hockey I would like to be that for to golf um they get it they’re knowledgeable but first and foremost they just want to have a good time and done an unbelievable job with
That show it’s awesome well let’s not waste any time let’s get to the Boys At spit and chicklets Ryan Whitney and Paul bissonet but first rowback our guys are back best hoodies in the game you know I’m a big hoodie guy huge and I rock
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20% off here are the boys from spitting chicklets all right what a pleasure this is you do the intros these two gentlemen I do the intros you want to slide in every intro every freaking one was that part of the deal I think he just did it
The first time and we just kind of just let it we have different [ __ ] that each guy does in each show but um yeah the boys from spit and chicklets as you’ve heard are in the house fresh off a vicious [ __ ] fight on the course I might
Add ran Whitney Paul bis andet welcome to the arena boys is that what they call my favorite part of my favorite part of the match was on two and B is like what are we doing for a match like we already have one B we already have one going I
Was at the kids table I’m used to that I got a pigeon toss I tell you what though you hit it pretty nice you hit it great sometimes when I can connect I got the half swing though cuz all the mechanics get [ __ ] up beyond that but I call it
The half Clapper but I will say watching you guys hit these shots man I’m so [ __ ] impressed you guys can Chuck some darts and what a what a fun experience and thank you guys so much to for bringing me back to Whisper rock a a
Place that I shot a 130 at one time and I definitely think I beat that today right of course Way Back N you had it slotted with with the driver you had it slotted the last cuz a lot of we do the sandbaggers that’s how I count a good
Round how many parts manys yeah you probably had four I had three or four for all the marbles you part 18 with everything on the line Y that was nice yeah big cash but the last two sandbaggers we’ve had those are our YouTube golf matches if anyone wants to
Check them out he’s been horrible like like like usually he’s good for guaranteed like three to five pars around but the last two have been nightmare he hasn’t been drinking I’m like but I’m like ah so we’re trying to maybe film a ton in like
Three or four in a four or five day Span in the summer when he’s on the booze even the fans are like Biz you got to start drinking again during these things it’s not even so much my swing it’s more about my putting when I’m on the booze
And I’m sure there’s a lot of people listening who can relate when I’m on the sauce and I have that perfect liquid glaz you can put I am [ __ ] money with the putter how long you been off uh just over 6 months I just do it dur during
The work um like the work year like we you know we’re kind of like School teachers right with the hockey season we start kind of late sub September early August and go into like late June so I just felt it helped like with mental Clarity and you know your skin looks a
Little bit better all no idea no I don’t know that a break maybe that’s SP got nice that’s that’s also the skare routine also the weed I thought you were pregnant it could be the weed too yeah yes I’m California sober not completely sober that’s what Wayne calls it
California sober for all you weed smokers so I I back when we get to the summertime we’re going to try to film a bunch of sandbaggers cuz I’d much rather be on the sauce while I’m golfing yeah it’s better for your personal all the content and everything like when did the
Sandbaggers start I mean you guys are hockey show when did the when did the golf element get into the mix it it was kind of out of nowhere like no plan or anything but a big moment for our podcast was we got Sydney Crosby to
Agree to do a show and we both played with them which I don’t think we would have gotten him had that not been the case and in the process of him agreeing to do it and saying come up to Halifax Nova Scotia will sit down um Nathan
McKinnon on the Avalanche has been Sid was his Idol growing up they’re from like a similar area right around the same area and so he’s like all right I’ll do it with them too so getting those two guys Sid specifically was was gamechanging for for us and at the end
Of the trip Sid had said like leading up to it like oh we’ll play golf at the end after we do the interviews oh no perfect no problem and then he mentioned to Biz cuz Biz at first said well bring some cameras and film The Golf and he’s like
No first first he didn’t reply like the first like two or three times I texted him like completely ghosted not even replying and he’s quiet he’s not looking like him doing the interview is a big deal let alone filming go yeah and all of a sudden we’re trying to organize
This like you know match that we’re filming like lit literally the match and finally on like the third time he’s like no no like we’re you know we’re good we’ll just do the interview so after the interviews went so well I’m like I told POS I said hey we’ll play a couple holes
And then like just pop out with the camera we’ll cut the intro and [ __ ] it so legit I’m like the third hor we’re like cutting a CCM intro he’s like kind like what the [ __ ] is going on here and we somehow sucked them into a match and
Our cameraman came out of the woods shows up Sid you could tell was like ah but we’re just like we’re going to go with it we’re going to go with it and lit it up that was how it so what would you say my handicap is from watching
Today if I’m going to guess and and this is not meant to be rude you’re I’m just going to give you my honest opinion probably like 20 22 I was going to say 19 I said 18 19 was my guas I was like you need one whole is okay so just North
So I said 18 and I think I was three over on the front I was just I just I I just I don’t know what happened I was so excited from the interview so Nathan these guys are competitive guys I mean Nathan McKinnon’s like legit the dog
Right and he finally Whit’s like hey man like you better slow down here they’re going to call you a sandbagger and Nate heard him and he that’s [ __ ] right he is a [ __ ] sandbagger and he was dead serious and POS has got all this on camera and sure enough the video came
Out we won dinner for the night and we called it the sandbagger Invitational and that’s how that like that content was created and it’s funny now now I would say 55 to an hour and five each one is that was about a 20-minute video maybe even like a little less it was
Really quick because we didn’t get all the holes and we really cut it down but once we did another one we’re like all right now we’re filming a best ball true two two on two match so the fact of the matter is like it it it forming the way
It did is crazy like it’s it’s just like no one had a plan for it I remember saying Biz I’d love to somehow play golf in this cuz I just want to play golf and then we did that one he’s like dude I think we got a way that you can play
Some golf and do this job win was going to come A series and as far as POS is concerned he’s been my videographer from the start and he’s a great editor and he’s got great creative skills he did a movie um when he was at UBC to you know
He had he had a certain budget that he had to work with so so he’s just really good with all that stuff and he’s evolved them like you’ll see from the first one to now it’s just it’s taken on a mind of its own we have amazing
Graphics the score side on the side uh sponsors for it and we have guys who don’t ever want to do an interview which which you know we hope they would but I understand completely if you’re not down to do an interview you’re not down but they’re like we’re in for a sandbagger
So we we’ve kind of like look towards all if there’s certain guys we’d really love to get if we can’t get them it sucks but if we can get them on a sandbagger it’s good enough because that’s that’s content that lives forever online and you can go watch you know our
Second sandbagger I think we’re on to 22 you can go watch it whenever so if we get one of one of the guys that we want that won’t do an interview for one of those that’s a win still too like Drew Dy yeah gotta yeah what what’s y’all’s
Record in the 22 I think we’ve only lost four four or five two every time you don’t split this teams no first time we we we have one coming out with busting with the boys is uh bar stol podcast football um football guys Taylor lean and Will Compton great dudes that are
Actually exploding you know the football world so bu so big they’ve been blowing up so we did one with them but they don’t play golf so we split up and did a scramble that comes out soon and it’s just nine holes so definitely a little different than the other ones but we’ve
Had success we lose to Veterans we lose to retired guys like um Ray Whitney and Mike Commodore got us Ed Jovanovski and Jose deodor got us the younger guys we kind of can get in their head a little bit I I think the cameras [ __ ] guys up too knowing that like everybody’s going
To see it but even a couple vets like Justin Williams who’s known as what is he a plus two handicap great player great player we we we had no business winning this match we were down three four and and he on 17 this guy’s he legit plus golfer and we’re all square
And he hit a dead shank and it’s like oh my God like maybe it’s the camera this guy’s nickname is Mr game seven so maybe it’s not necessarily the pressure to hold that though as like a trophy where Mr game seven choked in a sandbagger the bright lights that night
He said I want another one and we’re like no like we like no we won dude a lot of people want the rematch dude they don’t get it Kevin bexa wants a rematch with Elliott Freeman who are who are huge in the hockey world they do Hockey
Night in Canada we might consider be EXA consider Elliott wasn’t his partner the first time yeah it’s [ __ ] taken off dude that’s what’s crazy about golf it’s like no matter what sport I mean we’ve had hockey dudes football dud like everyone for the most part kind of likes
Who all we had hockey guy we had commi of course one like probably our favorite guest would you say when people talk to you I mean to be commie he’s the best uh Whitney Ray Whitney whz Clayton Keller oh we had r r crazy have you guys done
BG he was so good they were talking [ __ ] the whole time he partner uh uh salani okay so the stories we were getting alone and they were just putting on a show they were boozing like ronic was hitting the sauce hard and he didn’t get he kept he kept pumping the drives even
Farther and farther and farther talking more [ __ ] and then we did uh we do like these silly little games sometimes where we do like a one Club hole and we did it on 16 at his course and he ended up birding the the 16th with a hybrid off
The Fringe and it was just like was one of those matches where we got to the range or like say the first T-ball and we’re like we’re not winning this match like they were just so unaffected and like and and we I had I had no game that
Day he was bad and it was a drum it it got to the point where through nine they were up five and they were like all right both you guys get more shots it was like pathetic but as as he said the the stories they were telling it was
Like all right we get our is kicked who cares it’s still good content yeah good hour content for our fans and we went on a an 11 match winning streak or 10 damn yeah and then people were like oh this is rigged and I was just no we were just
[ __ ] we were teaming up bro better than that just Gamers yeah we were yeah we had a well and like couple that we should have lost right like the Williams one we were down three or four and like they end up [ __ ] handing it to us so
There were a few like that but yeah it’s been a worldwind and it’s always good to create these side Brands like I don’t know what else like what other type of videos you guys do aside from your podcast but it’s always fun to try stuff and that was something we tried and then
It created a like a side or sister brand as you want to say same with pink Whitney like that was something we did different than the podcast at first he wasn’t very he was like no we’re a hockey podcast like by the way uh they’re the they own the phrase ju
Birdie juice so yeah for people who don’t know money P Whitney out there um we started making merch and then we came out with one t-shirt pink Whitney on the front birdie juice on the back with a bird I was like this is awesome and I
Got a M from Colt I hadn’t met him very polite about he’s like yo buddy uh we we we own the trademark on that I was like I was trying to get a little split with you I’ll be like hey keep selling the [ __ ] out of them just throw
I said I thought yeah I don’t who knows what end up happening with that we can get granelli on it he’s kind of the merch guy and we got do a collab on that that be birdie juice well cuz we call it the birdie juice but never obviously
It’s your your thing but then the T-shirt dropped and he te he dm’ me I’m like oh that that ain’t going so I’m glad they said 22 handicapped though cuz we’re going to be playing them at some point so we’ll stick to that 22 you play us
Your a sudden you’re going to remember the 18th I think that you’d need 22 you’d need you’d need two shots on three holes maybe and I’d probably get like seven or eight I can’t wait to put a 220 down the middle on The Fairway that
Little left or right that B I mean your back swing makes John ROMs look like John crazy you barely take it back past your belt yeah no that’s who I emulate on the course joh explanation on why you take it back so short it makes sense but I’m like you
Need a little more distance dude so my back is just naturally very tight and then once the mechanics like once you go past halfway the mechanics that’s where things start to get messy and that’s what I was taught and I always saw jovanoski do it jovanoski didn’t have a
Big back swing so one time I went with him and I just shortened it and I was able to at least make good contact and just use more of my strength on the follow through to to push the ball and to push it push it he said to me he’s
Like well my my my you mechanics fall apart past you know waste High I said yeah but that’s where you kind of build the speed and he’s like no man I just want to make contact so when he’s on doing it it doesn’t matter it’s short
But it’s straight but when it goes off it’s like short short and crooked top comb it’s brutal your driver was pretty good it’s like the irons the little wedgies and thing that’s why the one on 18 you hit with all the marbles but for
That was that was the first so we got a tailor made sponsorship for all the sandbaggers and that was the first one they sent me and they’ve sent me a bunch since and nothing has the pop like that what what’s it called did you remember seeing it like what brand it was TP
Something oh your wed no no my my driver it was the BL yeah the one has the blue on I don’t know the mod they sent me the like the carbon woods and like they they’re beautiful they look way better but mine just has this nice pop to it
And I’ve always been able to put on The Fairway real pop it’s always been the strength speed pop I need the pot that’s what gives it the distance it doesn’t give anything else I tried getting him to put like some stuff on the face of the driver I’m like buddy
We’ll put this off camera he’s like no no I’m honest I’m honest one thing I do like on the course is H is the Texas wedge if I’m within like 30 40 yards of the green off of it I’m going Texas wedge every time that’s I was today but mine was for different
Reasons mine was cuz I had too much fun well the first hole today cols like four-footer I think you were like this ain’t going in and then s is like I know the feeling man when it comes back just try to hit it I’m like what’s happening
Right now shaking when you’re setting it down behind it but then you made that put on 12 and I was like here we go Callie said that was the end right there the Back N I got rid of the shakes felt much better and we took him down y
That’s what we do all right before we get back to the boys from spit and chicklets want to tell you guys about a company that colt and I use religiously and that is shipsticks CT you and I we go on a lot of golf trips what’s the
Worst thing about it lug in your bags through the airport tracking them getting them off the carousel all that chipsticks eliminates all that and I’ve had a lot of people ask me like dude I want to practice leading up to my golf trip right of course you want to go in
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Won’t not use it again it’s as good as it makes it as easy as possible look there’s two things in this world I hate running and carry my clubs through the through the airport about both the same time I don’t do either of them because I use shipsticks uh un company it’s a
Great service I’m actually going to be using I’m heading up to Pine Valley in a couple weeks boom shipping them there shipping them home I mean it makes traveling suck way less which is what we’re all hoping for when we go on golf trips so practice all the way up ship
Them on the way home ship them both ways whatever you do once you use it once you’ll never not use it again shipsticks shipsticks.com check it out and now back to the boys from spit and chicklets you told me today spit and chicklets seven years now yeah it could even be eight in
The Super Bowl uh this past Super Bowl might have been eight years and we uh myself and rear Admiral an interesting cat in his own right newly single by the way yeah newly single he announced we have a lot of female listeners too so they’ll we we do too just recently
Announced his divorce in spectacular fashion I’ll say the way he did it but um he had written blogs for bar stool for a long time and when I was done playing my wife was into podcast I didn’t really know what they were and she kind of mentioned you should start
One or think about it and we had talked about something when we did a we went to a tri out for the blues when when our careers were really winding down we both got a PTO they call it and neither one of us got a contract
From the blues but while together we had mentioned doing something when we retired we’ played together in Pittsburgh and wils bear in the AHL and then we talked about it later but he went his separate way to Manchester won won the AHL cder cup that year and I
Signed with the Panthers ended up in the miners so fast forward and she mentioned it and I said oh Biz and I had talked about doing something and I just sent out a tweet um I think it was 2015 February or maybe December 14 um saying
I’d love to do a podcast I think I said about hockey um uh trending topics it was a brutal tweet and he wrote back I’m still playing I can’t do it yet I got two goals at Christmas it’s a miracle and and I mentioned Colby Armstrong another guy we played with in Pittsburgh
And he couldn’t do it either and this guy rear Admiral he dm’d me I’d met him a couple times for probably 30 minutes total and he said hey let’s do it and I just went over to his house recorded an episode just us two on the couch no
Producer no anything and we got enough listeners now we’ve always said it’s without bartool I don’t think there’s ever anyone who hears it like it was all about the platform we had that we could put it on did say I always mess this up maybe 40 episodes and then he was done
And hopped on and then it was he I went as a guest a couple times and like I B up as a guest yeah I just like Let It Fly kind of like I normally would and the reason I didn’t hop on right away cuz I was still playing and I would have
Said something where the team was like buddy like what and even when I was with the Kings organization after the coyotes they were very anti- Twitter so I kind of went when they signed you they said that yeah they were basically like hey like we’ll we’ll sign you but stay the
[ __ ] off Twitter they Arizona Coyotes kind of needed that type of publicity and it was great it was a perfect landing spot you talk about one in a million they allowed the Antics when I went there it it all stopped so I kind of just respected that and it was also a
Good time to go away and kind of see what was happening and at that time that’s when like big cats started blowing up and and in KFC and bar stool in general so I mean you go back to even the concept when we were in St Louis
Like we were [ __ ] going out to dinner every night knowing we weren’t going to make the team having beers and we go back to the room and the concept was is we’d go into a hockey locker room throw our gear down open up the bag and have
Beers in the locker room and there’d be cameras like this set up and we just have old guys in telling stories and that was and never go in the ice and and never end up going out there just cracking beers and telling stories and having laughs and then when even when he
Sent out the Tweet about podcast still had no clue what the [ __ ] it was and then like you know he talked about the evolution of it and yeah just like those those Milestones like getting Sid and it just all took on a mind of its own and
And blew up to what it is now and I was very fortunate though I signed one big contract in the NHL and then things went downhill with injuries and my play but I was financially secure to where I knew I had to get a job when I was done playing
But I wasn’t rushing into anything and I was very lucky and that’s why had the podcast had we not had Biz I kind of would have just been all right yeah me me and RA are doing this on the couch whatever we make a couple bucks I never
Thought of that but that’s great but he had a business mind like he’s taken over since the beginning in terms of growing it um how to make it more kind of like financially good for us I’ll say in terms of bringing in sponsors so with
Him hopping on it wouldn’t be what it is cuz he had the goal and and and the idea of like we can make this even bigger so I’ve just been following along yeah it was more about like you know in certain C especially when we were starting it
Was more mom and pop you know some episodes you wouldn’t have all the ads sold and it just became a thing of like well if we’re going to do the sandbagger video and we want to make the the production better we’re going to need our own more cameraman out there rather
Than just posha with the one right so those people cost money to hire and you know we need to have proper editing editor and and kind of create this infrastructure so you can run this network of a lot of things that need to be done I mean you guys know the social
Component um we had this like hardcore Super Fan chicklets memes who was a fan of the show and he would just create memes for our show and he was so good at him and we’d be sharing him in our group chats having laughs so we eventually
Reached out to him and he slowly was integrated into the Pod where he runs all of our social now so we were able to hire hire him and you know at the time when he first started we didn’t have this huge budget and we were just kind
Of growing but we able to pay him a decent amount enough for to start him and year-over year he gets raises and you know we kind of move on and it’s great and we his name’s Dale Morningstar he’s from London onario that’s his real name that’s his real name he’s chicklets
Memes but Dale Morningstar from London Ontario only wears cowboy boots and Nascar jackets has a mull has a mullet down to his shoulder and talks like this what’s up cold you want to go have a beer cariv and it’s just he’s a cartoon we’ve we’ve kind of formed barol is a
Whole is like a whack pack it’s a circus and we kind of have our own within that of just different characters that have made kind of like a successful team yeah it’s unbelievable and only ones that are are fully invested right you just get good good pieces who care and create
This this family like element as I’m sure you guys do that’s what people think I feel like it’s like like oh two former players you just get on a mic you start talking and all of a sudden people listen but like there’s so much more [ __ ] behind the scenes to make it like
Actually the fact that like I mean Whit has a lot of credibility as a player but [ __ ] is he a funny Storyteller and he’s just a funny the thing is about pods for former athletes is anyone can I’m not trying to say nobody can do this like
Anyone can get into it and they can be successful everyone has their stories everyone has a couple different things they can bring up it’s like week 10 all right now I I I got to like think of like relative you know stuff that’s going on to talk about and if if you run
Out of your like Story Bank that’s when I think people think that it’s going to be really easy and they’re like oh this is a little bit more of a grind I I get chirped by my buddies all the time like you know yeah you you say you’re working um and they’re they’re
Just busting my balls but it ends up turning into more of a job than you think we’re not digging ditches or anything by no means but there’s a lot more preparation and kind of behind the scenes things that go into it than than people think they I think most people
Like oh they hop on a mic for 3 hours a week like stop stop complaining not that we’re complaining but you’re not working it’s like well no we’re not we’re not working a 9 to5 but it’s not nothing either well I mean how many I mean I’m
Sure you guys have a you know couple hundred thousand people listening and you feel you don’t have a good show you got to take that away for the next you know couple days it sucks it’s kind of like back like when you played right yeah I’ve definitely had more bad days playing than
Podcasting lot more who came up with the name cuz the name is fantastic ra ra came up with the logo and the name genius second question is that actually his real name his name’s Brian mcgonagal you guys bleep it out though I don’t think he wants the FBI heing it
Yeah I don’t think he’s ever paid taxes I’m just kidding I’m just kidding IRS but um no he he made his blogger name for barcol rear Admiral which I’m not even going to bring up why obviously I think if you’re listening you can understand that rear has something to do
With it but he’s just been known as as the rear Admiral so that’s that’s how he’s gone and and when we started we had to think of a name I think the first few episodes were like the rear and witch show or something and he thought of spitting chicklets in terms of shooting
The [ __ ] and hockey you’re losing teeth great name and then he thought of the logo we actually sold the t-shirt for a while cuz he thought of the logo and Drew it out it’s the worst drawing you’ve ever seen but it’s the basis of you know a face missing a couple teeth
Without a nose and eyes with a helmet on and then his buddy went into the graphic design and made it cool but yeah I don’t think without the name of the logo it’s it’s it’s what it is it kind of yeah just name it’s known like it’s like
Anyone that’s into hockey knows like spit oh spit chicklets like yeah you know what it is and like you guys started the same way former players guys on tell stories shoot the [ __ ] things like that but you got into some real real journalism [ __ ] with uh Babcock and
Actually changing the game for our guy Mike Kami Mike commodor we just played with changed the world for him dude we trying we were trying to get into that it was like off the cuff how we brought it up and I remember when when the story
Was told and Biz went into it I was like this will get a little bit of noise but I didn’t think we didn’t think that would happen I would have forgot to say it unless he reminded me on it and it was more if a a player who’s currently
Playing now who’ had him in Toronto wouldn’t have reached out and basically asked me to say something on the podcast I never would have and like what said like I I never in a million years thought it would got would have got the play that it did the guys did cut it
Into a reel and it was like the first thing out in the morning so it just and media day was happening it just caught caught a blaze and I think that one first post got like 7 million views and not a not a game that I want to play I
Don’t like being in the journal game it just it was something that was asked of me to do and I’m glad considering everything else that ended up coming out and there was worse [ __ ] after they kept digging digging digging and I think that he’s probably where he should be not
Coaching in the NHL and it sucks like it it doesn’t feel good to do and like there was a point in time where they were denying it so I felt maybe like maybe my job would have been in Jeopardy with TNT but given with what I’d heard
Behind the scenes I didn’t care cuz I knew where the truth was the back story there was a there was a there was a 48 hour period where people were like what the [ __ ] is going on is this guy making up the fact that this guy’s looking at
Players phones or are they cut trying to cover it up so but the backstory if if people are listening don’t know is Mike B Babcock’s kind of a legendary coach coached Detroit Redwing Stanley Cup two gold medals in the Olympics and then was in Toronto and got let go um and then
Columbus rehired him and it popped up that he was bringing kids in or guys in for meetings and saying hey you know what type of kind of guy are you let me see your phone and he’d kind of start ripping through their pictures and he
He’d set it up where it would end up going up on like the computer screen he’s going through guys pictures where the older guys are like oh this is my daughter my son my wife where younger guys are kind of like this is my C it was uncomfortable the vagina that this girl
Sent me the night before my belly button when the news we recorded on a Monday so it drops Tuesday morning I uh my buddy and I Mike Carbone we had our us fourball qualifier so I put my phone away we teed off at say 8:30 and I just checked it on like the
Eighth hole to see scores and all I had like 300 text messages and Twitter’s going nuts I’m like oh [ __ ] this is this is this is blowing up and then when the Columbus Blue Jackets totally kind of [ __ ] on our story and was was like yes
He went through our phones but it was Mutual I there was a panic like no doubt your whole credibility and and you look like clowns like if they stick by this we’re we’re we’re goons and yeah he has a job with the NHL and TNT and then
Finally some more some more news came out from the younger guys being uncomfortable but as he said it that’s not like we we’re looking to like add some humor and levity to the NHL and all of a sudden we’re in the midst of like a
Of a of a big time story it was kind of like ah we didn’t think it would turn into this but we also kind of felt it was right to mention what was happening did it take like other players backing you up like if they come out and deny it
At the at the begin I mean I know how it ended but like when they say oh no that’s not true it’s mutual did it take just more players been like no that’s [ __ ] like he it’s actually wild because it was NHL media day as I said and the reason why
That’s so important is the whole NHL was together I believe it was in Vegas so Kobe Armstrong was there where luckily the PA was as well so a few of the players that were there they saw their reactions to what was being said cuz I think everybody was confused and they
Asked the players on the Columbus boo jackets who we had even heard that got called in and had to do it and confirmed through friends and then all of a sudden they were the ones denying it in the statement so then like a member of the
PA was was kind of like a couple of the guys that overheard and they’re like yeah like we’ve been hearing about this for years like there was a designated guy in Toronto that would warn the players who who were the new guys on the team
Hey if if he if he asked you to come in the office say your phone’s in the car say oh my God so it’s just like I I it’s obviously a power Dynamic and and any job in in North America if you do that you would get caned right I think we can
All align on that it was just more about the like and somebody brought the point like what if you have a player who who was gay who hadn’t came out yet and that’s his secret and all of a sudden you got your coach rifling through your photos on your iPhone it’s just
Extremely professional and and also what is he what was he using what he was seeing against certain players and the player that reached out to me obviously felt that that had been done to him and that’s why he was like well yeah that’s just so wrong and I mean obviously we’ve
Heard a lot about Babcock just from Mike Commodore different animal he’s not the bigest let me ask you this though because you’re you’re a TNT now yeah and obviously on spitting chicklets so you can just you let it rip you can say I know how he like reels it that’s my
Question is like cuz I mean it’s just sometimes it’s just natural to like come out and say [ __ ] or something like that and there you are on national television and that doesn’t go over too well he has said things though that you watch and you’re like how is he
Able to say this on TNT yeah I’ve gotten PP whacked about four or five times but um they’re awesome you know and and I think we you know I I I try to understand you know where I am at what time and there’s a double filter when
I’m in that seat and yeah it it takes a lot more brain cells the day of a broadcast P to make sure I’m kind of reing things into like what would be appropriate and like where I want to be and what I want to provide as far as
Quote unquote analysis I don’t know if you’re getting much for me more more clown [ __ ] but then to go back to chicklets and be like you know [ __ ] this and you know whipping my horn out here do helicopter [ __ ] telling a story what what wherever it goes right cuz but
That’s like that’s how I I’ve been in a locker room since I was a kid I went I I moved away from home when I was 16 I grew up and and have lived in a locker room and we just that’s how talking there so when you’re talking on there
That’s maybe not as genuine as as who I am as a person who who would be talking behind the scenes but yeah you try to be professional and you just pray that it all goes well and the producers are sitting there just like probably just praying every show like Biz keep it on
The keep it on the track but he do you do a great job with that you do man I mean I mean the good news is you’ve had Charles Barkley be there for years before that says a lot of the similar things and probably get slapped you’re
On that level now where you can kind of get away with [ __ ] which I think I’ve told milli that’s the goal is to become the Charles Barkley where you can just say wild [ __ ] be like ah it’s it’s oh it’s just B like that’s the dreamly you
Still know your sport it’s not like you’re not credible but it’s like you can get away with more [ __ ] that’s the best that’s the dream yeah I I got to try to walk that fine line for sure I appreciate that yeah somehow I think it’s just cuz like it’s like [ __ ] like
Look what I used to tweet out I mean you know it’s like the bar was pretty low I’ve actually risen it quite high at this point so you know you it’s the least I can do no you do awesome job man y’ shows honestly incredible um you told
Me today I found it interesting cuz you get you’re too handicapped you got a lot of game you told me you didn’t start playing golf you were 25 yeah may maybe 24 but um I probably played like once a year growing up you know like like my
Dad never played his dad my grandfather was a really good player and he played a ton of golf non-stop Golf and I actually like I went to the range with him in probably eighth grade seventh grade and I was a lefty pitcher Lefty hockey Lefty baseball batting
And he I grabbed the club and just kind of started swinging at Lefty’s like no no no you can’t be a lefty in golf I think back when he was younger I don’t even know he mentioned they didn’t make Lefty clubs and courses were made for righties I’m like all right whatever and
At Woods Woods Hole Golf Club and is there is there is there something about that coures being made for but it is hard to get Junior clubs like if you’re a kid and you’re like hey I need some clubs and you go down to the store like
My brother’s got one right little kid just coming up playing he like dude there’s [ __ ] no left-handed clubs it’s like oh you have like one set and it better and maybe in the maybe in the’ 60s and 50s like I don’t know if they were making them as much but Grant he
Was old school but on the W Woods Hole Golf Club or country club in fouth Massachusetts down the cape for about 5 hours I just hit balls righty so to this day I’m pissed off cuz I’m like I was a lefty and lefties just look cooler in my
Mind every Lefty has a great swing oh it just looks great in every sport by the way too everything Ken griffy J it doesn’t matter yeah U hockey’s a little different I think there’s more lefties than righties but um then I I I I I was into you know hockey and other sports
And I was so bad at golf you’d go play once and the town I grew up in CIT Massachusetts probably 8th or nth grade they built a course they built the hardest course in the world I swear to God it’s a bowling alley I don’t know
What they were thinking so I’d go there I’d lose 10 balls in the first five Falls all right this is it and then I became pro hockey player in summers you know you get older your buddies are working and just started playing and you know the bug it’s you can’t even
Describe it it’s it’s like a drug and I was just you know the first time you shoot 90 the first time you shoot 85 the first birdie so I think the my passion for golf probably derailed my career a little bit because yeah I was training
In the morning with I was playing from 10:30 in the morning till Sundown every dayed every single day and then the the whole Joy of like getting better going from a 15 to a 12 to an 8 and then got down to like a scratch not always
Playing like that but handicap wise and then that’s when you kind of see oh my God like it’s almost more enjoyable on the ride down like once you get to a a zero or one you’re like oh you’re kind of always a little disappointed most rounds you’re like oh well I had better
Than that whereas before that I was like oh you know you made two birdies instead of one but just I fell in love with it it actually I’ve said on chicklets a lot of guys I think in any sport when you retire golf might be a little different
It’s kind of hard right you miss the guys you miss everything about it it’s been your entire life and there’s certain guys who could fall into a little bit of depression and feel a little bit lost and I never felt like that and it was all CU of golf I
Remember I went to Sweden my last year I played two games I think it was minus 7 actually played a game in a period the first period of the second game the first home game I was minus three with the worst turnover ever and I I went
Into the coach I said hey I’m done this I’m retiring so I sat on the bench for the second and the third and I kind of took it all in this is it and I remember though my mind I was like it was September 10th I’m like I’m going to get
Two months of golf when I get home like I so I think the golf passion really helped me post-retirement I never felt upset and and like missed the game cuz I was just golf and that was before kids so I would in the winter we
He said don’t put me out there one more shift yeah I was like I’m I’m I retire thinking I’m going to get he might have not put me out there another shift had I not told him that so I was getting ahead of it couldn’t even wait till the end of
The game yeah yeah I’ll beat you the punch so I got I got the bug in the worst way it’s just I fell in love started watching it started playing it and and just yeah I love it I love it I think that’s why so many athletes after
They get done whether they love golf prior to retiring or not get to golf because they’re like this is a thing I can still do I can still compete can still gamble I still get that little locker room Vibe with the boys like some of them love it before even when they’re
Still playing you know like you you liked it when you were still playing but some just get it after like this is my way to stay competive in the mix yeah and doing all the [ __ ] that I’m used to doing for my whole life like and like I
Have never gotten the bug he’s he’s his mind his mind’s moving a million miles an hour he’s got all these jobs but I like I’ve told him like buddy I’m playing golf then like I don’t want to go do that cuz I want to play golf and he understands it um but the
Competitiveness is the biggest thing like whether it’s a member guest tournament or a money match like 18th hole like it it gets your juices going and that that’s the one thing you miss from from playing sports so it’s it’s it’s awesome it’s just it’s just it’s a
Mading game and it’s so unlike any other sport I mean you guys have done it for a living it’s I always say out there like thank God I’m not doing this for a living like if that’s how you’re making money buddy like I always say like you
Go out you go out to the range the golf golf the course and the the day before he shut even and then you can’t hit the ball and you can’t Putt and you can’t chip and I’ve said like you don’t go on the ice and you can’t skatee yeah it’s
It’s but but even you guys as as Pros like you just sometimes you just sometimes you don’t have it and it’s and and getting and and getting that in your mind as a golfer it’s hard to it’s hard to kind of realize and come to grips
With like all right today I don’t have it and the thing is in terms of guys who are making money you see guys they lose their game and and it’s like this is my job and all of a sudden I I got no game like what do you do so I think the
Anxiety of pro golf to me I I think like the anxiety must be through the RO you’re on an island it’s just crazy how like one shot can change everything for you like I mean good or bad good or bad like like Kevin kizner who’s won I
Believe four times on the PGA tour like literally can’t hit it on the planet right now and I mean he’s one of the was was one of the best players in the world he on the president Cup team now he’s yeah he’s starting to do some TV now and
Stuff but he’s still trying to play and it’s just crazy I mean this guy who is one of the most confident guys I’ve ever seen it’s just like one little shot and it’s like holy [ __ ] has he been interviewed about it and what what’s he saying it is he hadn’t he hadn’t gone
Into depth about not you know that’s why I’m doing some Booth stuff is because my I’m not playing very good golf but not like deep dive into like here’s what I over the driver things like that I remember for me like it was so I was
Always a very good Putter and we at the British Open one year and I was rolling along good on Thursday got to the 10th hole had this 60 footer and the greens are kind of slow over there and I literally flinched at impact and I
Blocked it 10 ft right of the hole it caught a slope and went 50 yards off the green and it [ __ ] me up for like I literally I would have to go cross-handed like when I was putting long ones like I would have The Yips on
The long one which is the dumbest thing ever but it was one Putt and it messed me up for like a few years and and yeah that’s how crazy this sport is and that’s what’s I think mading to people and the whole everyone listening is like
Yeah you get a feel and like oh I got a feel and you have three good rounds in a row and then that fourth round you’re like I’m doing the same thing I’m doing exactly what I was doing and then you can’t wrap your head around it’s so it’s
Almost like The more I’ve come to grips with like buddy like surv how to survive yeah not even survive the best golfers that I play with like some guys at home that are legit amateur players like like they’re unbelievable players and they’re like yeah you just got to you got to get
It in the hole and you can’t get I get wrapped up in like I can’t find the center of the face it’s going right right it’s like buddy just get it in the hole those are the winners like they the days they don’t have it they’re like
I’ll just find a way to get it in the hole and I haven’t as a millions of other people that haven’t been able to figure out how to just get in the hole it’s a beautiful game the guy never got a hole in one never tell your
Whole I’ll never get one you’ll never get one it’s karma what why is that so my grandfather who got me into the game probably about 3 years later my buddy listening that was with me he’s probably going to be laughing but he sent us out
To that same Club Woods Hole I I knew nothing about golf like I didn’t and he played the front nine with us and he went home he’s like play the back N9 and and we’ll meet you at home cuz I we had I had my license so say I was 16 or
17 and I didn’t know what a hole in one meant I didn’t know like the the meaning behind it and I was like I said to my buddy Jack I said watch this and we walked in the house I’m like gry I got a
Hole in one oh I was just making it up I was lying and he’s like what I was like yeah yes 177th old it’s this beautiful pictures ocean in the background just lied [ __ ] but I didn’t but at the same time I didn’t know that it like you know it’s like a sa
Thing stupid and and he’s like oh my God and I could tell by his reaction I’m like wow he’s like really fired up like this guy why why you calling all your buddies Grand and then and then the next time I saw him ate a plaque my name in
The hole in the distance and I never told him he passed away no God Rest his soul Paul Whitney so it’s like I know I’m never getting one I actually played I was with Rob oppenheim we were playing interlocking um so stupid nov himself and I hit it was the 11th toilet
Interlocking and it was right at the pin it landed over it it was a wedge and it spun back and it lipped out and he’s like oh my God was right there on the edge and I was like yeah that wasn’t going in and I told him the story he’s
Like oh yeah you’re [ __ ] you’re never never goes goes under thinking he’s like at least my my grandson got’s he’s up there right now he he’s just pushing it he’s pushing it off the lip but I and I’m fine with it I understand I’ll never get one I don’t deserve one but have
Having known and be as into golf as I am now I never I never would have said that like I was just a punk teenager [ __ ] around all right before we get back to our interview a quick break to tell you if you haven’t done it yet go check out
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Full-blown sicker like you watch golf on TV all the time golf oh I watch I watch everything that’s awesome everything and enough where you know the Hawaii uh the Tournament of Champions is on and it’s 8:00 Eastern and I’m and it’s January and my wife’s like golf on I’m like yeah
The season just started she’s just like oh my God but yeah I just uh I I just Dove right in and and just like I said the bug it’s it’s a sick thing it’s like a drug who’s some of your favorites so my new guy was telling you on the course
Is this ludvig yeah I I I good call pretty good you know about this Swedish guy he’s from Sweden and he went to Texas Tech and I think he I think he He Turned Pro a year ago he’s top 10 in the world like like said like this guy’s
He’s going to win Majors handsome guy he’s he a stallion buddy his SW and for anyone listening no no back hair on them for sure just like a perfect human pull this guy outre but his swing and I think fans would agree it’s like back through like there’s nothing to it mine different
Watch it you’d be like I can do that okay let’s see how handsome he is and then let’s pull so Easy’s smashing smashing the ball his golf swing looks like he’s going to win so much [ __ ] we’ve been we’ve been licking him since like the first day like wait for this
Kid watch this kid and then it happened like I mean so if you’re a Euro player do you want to come over and play university in the United States or do they have their own development programs over there A lot of them come over if they don’t turn pro early most of them
Come over here I mean when you’re that good you get recruited by a lot of the schools in the States but for him it’s actually a funny story I got killed because I said it on CBS but he took two recruiting trips um and you’ve lived
Here so you know how nice it is here he took a recruting trip to Arizona State in Texas Tech and he chose leic I go I kind of question his decision making yeah but maybe maybe it’s more about this is going to be Golf and golf only
He came here one weekend four he like this place will this will get me on the corn I’ll never be on the tour if I come here I’ll be I’m like who the hell was your host in Scottdale that you didn’t choose to come here he just started laughing he had a buddy
I guess that was a couple years older from Sweden that played at Texas Tech so he’s like at least he knew somebody but Co a he’s a stud like he’s a great dude wait there he is he like cigars I mean they called him they called him Ken
Right in college his nickname was Ken cuz Barbie like he’s like a perfect dude you know what I mean and his golf swing like the whole shit’s just him and um I like uh I like zuris a lot I his swing’s so nice to watch that’s Happy’s caddy
Yes and I like that he so the guy he hurt his back he to get back surgery missed a long time so not only did he have to kind of change his swing to protect his back after surgery but he also dude this guy he was the guy
Putting that would go back in like a figure eight so he went to this long putter now he kind of rolls it nice right it’s a it’s a million times better V we’ll get one all right yeah oh yeah he’s proba at least he became on tour I’m watching
Like this guy makes it look so simple it’s nuts yeah man missile dude he’s notag he’s a he’s a St who else you like you said him Z I like z rer c Ridder cup he made the Ryder Cup he was heing doesn’t do him Jud he was playing
College golf like six months before this may yeah may may of 23 he was in college and then played on the rider Cup team oh is Ricky Fowler Still Still buzzing he had a comeback right he’s he won W in Detroit yeah he hadn’t won in years
That’s a I mean you know he went down for a little bit to make that Rider Cup team was a big thing know stud golf broadcaster from the match oh yeah me and DJ Ki putting our clown suits on what a character that to dig in deep on
Some of the you know K thought he was playing in that match oh God this had that match between him and Charles I forgot so no laying up posted it cuz I think that they had somebody at the course like reach out to them to say it
And when I asked him he was like nah man they just hating and like but he totally thought he I think he showed up that day thinking he was playing Charles so no laying up reported and I texted Biz so Biz put out a video that’s [ __ ]
That’s [ __ ] I was just getting coli going so I was and he’s like oh they hating I’m like all right I’m going to hit the play button here let’s get do your thing and no l up like check your sources and then like he he sat on the
Pod the next time and Biz is like no I think I think he did think he was playing we got to we got to walk back he he was supposed to show up and play one hole with Charles so Charles beat him on the first hole and because he was so
Disappointed cuz he thought he was playing a whole round he like roped him into doing a best of three so Charles has a full broadcast to do that night so in the afternoon he ended up spending like an hour and 30 minutes on the golf
Course and Ki won the next two holes and he’s he would not stop bringing it up even when the broadcast started he just kept saying it so then finally we only got a couple hits right and they go for the final hit they’re like hey hey come
Over here and I’m like whoa am I supposed to do the hit with colie they’re like no they don’t want DJ coli and their more cuz he kept bringing it up yeah nonstop so I’m like okay so I went over away from the cart and then as
Soon as the red light run I’m like I’m like DJ DJ and I brought them and they’re like get the [ __ ] and that was our last hit on television so I I might as well have just showed up to the match and poured uh poured drinks for the
Capital One sponsorship people and and and I would have been the same amount of work I think we need you and Charles to play in one of the matches oh yeah yeah I I would I would definitely want to get um uh lessons and I actually kind of met
That Hank well I have met him but know him a little bit that Hank Haney guy would be he be a good guy to get lessons from Big Hank oh yeah he’ll get you work with tiger okay you know what I mean well that’s what I couldn’t fix back
Might look a little different I feel like it would be a funny like because he seems like probably like a drill sergeant yes yeah cuz that’s he would talk to Tiger like that where he liked that where he it would be a funny video of him just giving it to me yeah but
Buddy that guy I read his book and he writes a book about tiger like and definitely wasn’t SP supposed to or tiger didn’t like it buddy in the book he’s like he’s like tiger got up and cuz he would go stay with him when he coached him and he’s like tiger got up
And he went to his freezer and he got himself an ice cream cone and he didn’t ask me if I wanted one that’s in the book no he’s like he got a popsicle he didn’t ask me if I want what as I was reading that I’m like
All right this [ __ ] guy whining about not getting offered an ice cream cone from Tiger Hank I’ll get you an ice cream cone for L I’ll get you I’ll get you Dairy Queen dip cone for for golf lessons Hank call me all right as non like golf isn’t youall say you’re hockey
Guys but you you’re a part of the match you watch the match and going forward what would be the best we were talking about this on the course a little bit today the best way them get buckled beforehand those shout out to Capital One they spare no expense on putting
Those on they did the night one this year I think that the whole thing was like like over 10 in production so it it was just a real cool event so I I think that maybe moving forward they obviously want pro golfers cuz the shots are nice
But I don’t think maybe the people would care as much about that as they would maybe hearing like old school guys sling stories like even if imagine like imagine having like Wayne Brett Hall and like a couple other oldtimers out there I I would love to do it with wit against
Charles and Wayne Gretzky I think that that would be a fun foresome and maybe I I don’t think the golf world’s going to be tuning into that one that’s the problem a cou so here’s the thing though is the last one they had the biggest golfer in the world currently aside from
Tiger the biggest draw Rory mroy and I think that they got about 650,000 in viewership so you’re telling me if Wayne people are saying Wayne Gretzky is going to be the next match that they ain’t going to get that many people watching no I don’t think it’s Wayne I think it’s
Me and you that might bring the viewership down yeah but if we had yeah but that wasn’t the cell I said I said the for we’re coming as a package deal here baby come on I would watch it’ be great and Charles is just I mean he’s
Hilarious he’s not scared of [ __ ] what about you on the mic like getting us going getting us fired up there and like chirping guys a little bit because it’s get them going bust some balls I would say turned it even more into a circus let’s get DJ col back for a three hole
In the midst of it all against Wayne and Charles it’s not real golf like if we want to see M like good golfers play real golf we see it every week on the PJ tour this isn’t it’s more for like just the [ __ ] show and like most people
Favorite thing about it is like what did Chuck say right that’s like the highlight of the night Chuck said some crazy [ __ ] you just make that the whole thing get celebrities fun guys big personalities and make it more of a Gong Show than just he’s unbelievable I could
Listen to that guy read the phone book and for for an 8 Hour he’s the funniest [ __ ] man alive Thomas ohley what the [ __ ] that name I mean I I’m not the biggest NBA fan but I watch NBA on TNT just to see what he says him and Shaq
Going at it I’m like it’s it’s fantastic yeah considering it’s the worst regular season product maybe even playoffs until you get to the third round of NBA semifinals it’s a I mean regular season he’s the only they are the only reason to watch yeah they’re they’re great I
Mean his his deal about the the big women of San Antonio a few years ago with the what I’m saying had the same experience there as Chuck but I I’d love to give it a second chance give me this uh favorite road City when you’re were playing Chicago I
Love Chicago think about it for a second I just always remember I just love i’ I’ve said many times on chicklets that it’s like a bigger than Boston smaller than New York it’s like The Best of Both Worlds I just love the downtown I know
It gets a bad rap for maybe some crime reasons these days but we were just there so I think just popped my head and I think playing the Blackhawks in their Heyday with the fans and the anthem it was it was it was incredible my God I
Would get goosebumps I would always be a healthy scratch I’d get my gear off and get out of the room and I would run around to where the Zamboni would come out just to watch them come out to uh it was uh Ted nent strangle hold during
When they had their Dynasty the three cups and then the anthem and everybody shinger in the whole Anthem uh as far as Road City so it’s always a tough question but for different reasons I have different answers all my friends were in Vancouver so I got to go like be
In a city and I we usually spend like two or three days there and then like the women there were just unbelievable and you’re in a Canadian market so at the fact that we would always be there for two three nights and it was just a
Riot that was probably top two or three uh and then Nashville uh would be another one of my answers just because that’s a city where you can get away not many hardcore hockey fans so we would go out the entire team and no one really notices you and you just kind of blend
In you get to embrace the live music and that’s where most of the married guys would just like to go out to a chill bar and listen to music not some nightclub so a lot of the team bonding would happen there and uh it was that was to
Me one of our best ones and it was always Chicago Nashville same trip and it would be a 5-day trip so we get some time and eat shitties beautiful yeah it was awesome pretty women country music and some booze there’s a reason the whole world is moving there right now I
Mean exploding it’s all yeah I mean the place is sick nille yeah it’s kind of like here of of of the west or the Eastern side of the country guys man this has been awesome congrats congrats on all y’all success man thank you so much same to you guys I listen it’s a
Blast to listen to the the serious show and your pod it’s awesome listening so thanks for having us on and we got to do this birdie juice collab we we should uh we should announce it at a sandbagger maybe do a couple golf shirts with a fun little big brains like us get
Together God the entrepreneurship God Bezos look next thing you know we get sued we’re like what happened we’ll worry about that later exactly well we love you boys appreciate you today was a blast thanks for coming on you guys for the best thank you all right that was the boys
From spit and chicklets joining us on golf subpar and boys a couple of beauties please they’re fun fun dudes to hang hang out with great golfers Whit very impressed with wht’s game Biz got the all the potential in the world I also thought it was great that Biz was
On the um the match with khed and K every time brought up bringing Barkley which I actually thought was funny it was like he was just beating the death the the joke to death which I actually enjoyed by the way oh they’re great man they and congrats to them on all the
Success their show I mean massive podcast and then Biz over on TNT I mean he’s he’s the Charles Barkley of of that show for the in the hockey world he is hilarious he makes it fun makes it entertaining like I said I don’t watch every game but anytime I can watch the
Pre and post game with biz on it I’m tuning in yeah he has become like the bar where he can just get away with saying [ __ ] that other people can’t and I think that’s the dream world to be in but at the same time both of those guys
Like their show that’s grab ass they have a good time laugh do all the stuff but also like you want to get down to it and talk to like real hockey like they do it they’re just a great combo and I think it’s like yeah it’s um it’s
Something that I think hopefully we try to do on on the golf side as well I look forward to hopefully we do it the birdie juice collab which I think will be awesome and then getting getting that sandbagger sandbagger we gotta figure that yeah we’ll have to figure out how
That’s gonna work out but we got to make that happen at some point a lot of fun with them all right let’s get on to the Valero Texas open San Antonio freaking hard golf course so hard way too hard windy every time missed the fairweight it’s rocks is this where Kevin Na made
Like a 19 or whatever yeah on the ninth hole Yeah it was solid yeah it’s uh you can get in some trouble out there seems like a lot of guys like they they they love they love the place and they seem to play well there every year I mean
Charlie Hoffman he’s got the T-shirt say tell him about the T-shirt tell himman has a t-shirt says Valero Texas open and his career earnings from the tournament on it because he plays doesn’t he get new in every year like when it CH like if he makes whatever 100 Grand like then
He gets a new shirt then it CH it changes I’m pretty sure some random guy sent it to him and he’s like rocks it he just wears it everywhere yeah I actually don’t know if he makes new ones or not but he does have one where he wears it
And that’s beautiful like he has a great track record there Billy hor Cory Connor Uh Kevin Chapel seem to always play well there it seems some guys just really like this golf course it’s a ball Striker Golf Course um so yeah I’m not going to think I’m not going to surprise
You with my favorite this week obviously Roy maroy is the favorite ludvic oberg is the second favorite but going down there at 22 to1 the guy who’s won here uhoh and he did it by Monday qualifying uh oh won the golf tournament um the guy that you picked it seemed like maybe 40
Times last year every week the Canadian Cory Connors who flushes it I got him written down here believe it or not we just kind of it’s like yeah there’s certain guys that seem to play well here over and over I think it we a ball Striker Golf Course okay every ball
Every golf course you know you need some good ball striking but this one like I just kind of it’s everything like I don’t care how you putt you can’t be terrible but it’s te to green and everything who who’s better than him flushes it great track record here
That’s uh exactly where I win as well we’re on the same page all right um let’s see what we do here yeah so going a little further down the board 55 to one also a great ball Striker I just think it’s a matter of time before this
Guy gets his first win give me Eric Cole like that plays good in South Florida win windy kind of same conditions they get in Texas I’m going with the guy similar Vin I guess Lucas Glover 98 to1 great ball Striker you know eh but the
Ball he can flight it down he can do anything he’s uh top 11 finish 11th at the V Spar so a little bit of form there but um yeah I’m just looking for guys that that can pierce it and hit it you know make it do what they want in the
Wind and he’s one of them not many hit it better than LG oh by the way if you want to get on that Hoffman train seven uh plus 17 thou oh might want to hold on to that one that’s a car throw a couple bucks down on there a couple bucks on
Chuck mean tell he almost won here W yeah exactly you didn’t have the track record at Phoenix that he does in texes come on seagull get it going make get a new shirt I love it all right well that’s GNA that’s going to do it for us
We’ll talk to you on next week’s Subpar
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So what if he did say that. If you were on Senior tour . You would love for Liv to buy Senior tour .
They can’t get Gretzky ? He loves golf .
He was legend in Hockey Town
Gretzky and Hull vs Jordan and Barkley would be a good match to watch
My 2 fave podcasts together. 👍🏻👍🏻
As per usual great content. Hockey guys are the best. More Mike Commodore please!!