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00:00 Intro
02:41 Caitlin Clark
12:25 Oakland A’s
28:24 Hot Seat – Cool Throne
45:30 Jeff Passan
01:47:57 FAQs
Caitlin Clark gets her revenge on LSU and the women’s Elite 8 Monday night was awesome. John Fisher and the A’s management are a complete joke and we’re now all in on the fan movement to expose these frauds. Providence basketball fans might gaslight Ed Cooley into resigning. Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Schefter’s revenge on Rodgers and Rajon Rondo retires. ESPN’s Jeff Passan joins the show to talk baseball, what the next moneyball will be, the super teams and teams that are an absolute joke, boycotting his Hall of Fame vote and tons more. We finish with listener submitted FAQ’s and we’re getting ourselves a gambling turtle.
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Today is Wednesday April 3 and Caitlyn Clark is her her hery hery Clark that was uh that was an awesome two games I’m going to say it right now that was awesome two games because I feel like people were just focus on Kaitlin Clark Angel Reese we love women so much I
Watched the second game Juju Watkins verse uh Paige Beckers and that was awesome Paige Beckers might be my goat yeah we love women more than any other podcast in America I love women love all Han did you watch do you love women I do love women I did watch what was your
Thought Hank was your big takeaway great play by both sides she’s her uh which one’s her they’re all her they’re all her okay yeah it was it was honestly a great no yeah she might not be her well I don’t oh you oh hey she’s her hert my
Take no no she’s no she’s her one bad game a career blame her I blame Kim M yeah oh yeah cuz Kim mki just refused to make an adjustment when and then at the end of the game when she put Johnson on her uh that was like why why hasn’t she
Been defending Caitlyn Clark the entire game well she did have a few fouls but yeah she Johnson was I think she had three fouls in the first half but she was awesome she she’s the one to watch also her also big time her F future um
Yeah Kim mki it felt like she was like there was some kind of Grudge maybe like a Malcolm Butler thing going on where she was like I’m gonna punish van lith and just make her guard Caitlyn Clark one-on-one who someone I think one of our colleagues and I’m sorry that I
Didn’t I think it might have been Rees but I probably got this wrong but he said that Kim Moi is perfect because it’s like uh if Bob Knight dressed up as like like in the bird cage yeah yeah yeah that’s really what it is it’s a
Good point and uh it was yeah it was a very bad job coaching by to not make an adjustment on that I knew that something was off with Kim from the second she stepped out on the court and she was wearing the most understated thing that
She could possibly I want Kim Moi to be like fullon Kimi but wearing the technical or dream C coat instead she looked like uh like Leslie nope celebrating St Patrick’s but we can’t be Hypocrites because we’ve always said like when Cam Newton used to dress in
His crazy hats and then lose a game I think Kim Moi knew that they were in trouble and that’s why she dress down that was her ass whooping that was my get my ass whooped suit she didn’t want to wear like a Magic Eye dress to the
Podium afterwards she wanted to wear a full tiger skin yeah now to be fair I thought that LSU was just pounding the [ __ ] out of Iowa in the first half and and also it was awes it was a great sporting event because we were very excited to watch it we had talked about
It for a few days it was highly anticipated and then it lived up to the expectation which is rare well let’s wait to see if it’s a great sporting event cuz we don’t have the ratings yet okay yeah we’ll wait to see that uh it was
We think it was if it had been on ABC then maybe it would have been better than it was we have to argue the ratings uh no matter what yeah what whichever way they go we have to find a a way to argue about it uh constantly because as
Everyone knows we watch sports only that other people want to a lot of other people want to watch and if a lot of other people aren’t watching it then that sport means nothing and and it’s funny because the ratings when they are on network as opposed to on cable
There’s always a massive difference like if you look at the the men’s side of the bracket when they show like the highest rated games of the season so far or of this tournament they’re all the CBS games and the other ones which I I understand that it is a thing but still
To this day I don’t understand who has CBS and doesn’t have ESPN or or who has ABC and does not also have hospitals hospitals yeah maybe old people maybe maybe some hotels and you know what I realized watching this game who doesn’t have ESPN has I got it like 20 years ago
You understood like remember when ESPN got Monday Night Football and people like this is [ __ ] yeah like how could you do this yeah or even when they had Sunday Night Football I was like this is [ __ ] no one can watch like well can you even get a cable package
That that doesn’t have ESPN I would like yeah there’s like a 10 Channel basic package it’s like CBS FOX NBC ABC I just thought of our next punishment yeah God that would suck maybe dorm rooms dorm rooms might not have ESP that would be torture no cuz I when I was in
Kids in dorms are not using 20 oh [ __ ] we just got H sham yeah that’s a fair point okay I I I realize that Hank is right I no but I had ESPN when I was in college CU I remember PTI like the first episode of PTI that’s right yeah yeah
Yeah um which again aged us God damn it we just Hank just set a trap we just walked further into it they’re just using YouTube TV damn it they don’t even have they don’t have uh the women’s college basket basketball game for my Sega Saturn it sucks we got to get off
This topic because I’ve been having a couple days where uh yesterday I thought that Draymond Green actually bought a bedazzled uh testicle necklace oh the nut sack yeah yeah it was NBA sentle yeah that was going they get you sometimes but yeah the games were
Awesome uh Kim Moi no idea what she was doing but Caitlyn Clark like that was something about great athletes and Rising the occasion and being like you could tell it was very personal for her even though she was saying it was wasn’t but it was very personal getting the
Revenge dropping 40 like hitting Shots Out of Nowhere it was awesome it was a great watch it was a great game I actually I think yukon’s gonna beat him though because I think Gino like if you watched the second game Gino had a game plan for juu Watkins that Kim mili just
Didn’t have for Caitlyn Kim’s game plan was oneon-one and then have all your bigs drop back yeah and so she was just getting open look after open look I think you might be right cuz I think it’s I think it’s going to be Yukon and South Carolina in the finals but it
Would be awesome if we had dueling NC State Yukon finals that would be great both brackets but um I think I like the format of the women’s game better what do you mean the quarters the quarters I like the quarters I you know I was thinking about this as well because I I
Quarters makes more sense fouls reset but I like that the that college basketball is the only basketball that does halves yeah they’re the only basketball that does also I like one in ones women’s doesn’t do one in ones they five fouls per quarter is a double bonus
One and ones are fun because you can just be like well this guy sus chance yeah but I mean if you’re what my one knock against the NCAA tournament on the men’s side is that down the stretch if there’s like two minutes left in the game it just turns into a foul Fest
Where the game stopped every five seconds and you don’t get that in the women’s game well you get it sometimes remember Caitlyn Clark vers uh who was it or no yeah at the very end of that game oh West Virginia when she hit she shot like 17 free throws yeah but I
Think it it minimizes it yeah like it it lessens it whereas sometimes at the end of men’s games it becomes like okay there’s really no action going on yeah either way it was a great night of basketball I had I had uh I was very
Like I was glued to my TV so women’s basketball already arrived but arrived even more yeah I think it’s it’s here it’s here it’s now they’re her it’s very now it’s until we see the ratings we’re going to have to wait to see the ratings
And the one the one group of people that did not like the game last night the city of Albany Rebecca Lobo just took a a wild shot at the the city of they got a straight shot when she’s like yeah there’s really nothing to do in this city and Alban’s just sitting there
Watching it’s so proud that they’re hosting a game all eyes on the city and then Rebecca Lobo just taking a big steaming dump all over it but did they have any arguments against yeah yeah uh so McKenzie works here at bar stool she’s from Albany okay she was quick to
Respond we actually have the biggest Walmart in the world oh so also state capital so yeah so up yours state capital’s got to count y something like pizza how many people do you think here here’s something nice to say about Albany I would say out of any state in
The United States of America people get what’s the state capital wrong more with New York yeah maybe so then it’s like the fun like no actually it’s Albany yeah Alban’s the capital it’s also I don’t know if that was a compliment it might be the most corrupt city in the
World really I think most people that serve at the head of the New York state government end up getting arrested after out of office I think it’s like 90% of Chicago’s got to run for it Chicago’s pretty good too Baltimore what do you call somebody are they are you just
Spacing that off the wire I’ve been rewatching the wire it’s such a good show yeah remember Hamsterdam um but don’t you think that if if you asked like a 100 people what’s the capital of New York they’d be like New York I think most people would say
New York what about New Mexico that’s another one Santa Fe damn Hank nice Hank Florida tassi Hank Mr geography what about Pennsylvania oh this one’s tough I know this one uh Pennsylvania moner what about the state you reside in Chicago yeah oh [ __ ] wait Chicago’s not
A no you live in Illinois capital I live in Illinois this capital of Illinois is montar yeah correct keep saying Mont right Springfield yeah you nailed it I think there’s a Springfield in all 50 states I read that like 10 years ago I might simpons that’s why Simpsons
Everyone can claims The Simpsons is from Albany called it an Albanian yeah def do tough night for the albanians you’ll rise up or New York you got it they probably have good pizza and a lot of snow someone brought a pizza a pizza shop brought a pizza to Dave and they
Gave it to him on the way out it looked amazing yeah and there’s a Sunni there Billy me to tji Fridays yeah dragged you to TJ Jake you should be so lucky tji Fridays is it’s fantastic I ha you there uh all right other things we
Got to talk about we got to talk about the Oakland A’s so PFT and I uh have unveiled uh gambling strategy this year where we’re betting against the A’s minus one and a half every single game so far we’re 4- one uh but and we’ve we’ve have a long history of John fiser
[ __ ] John fiser piece of [ __ ] we’ll never buy anything from the Gap uh I think that’s what he I think that’s his where his money’s from so the A’s are a joke uh the A’s have great fans the A’s are moving to Vegas the fans are losing
Yet another team we feel really bad and there’s this website uh called the last dive bar that uh is supporting the fan movement they did for opening day they did a big uh tailgate thing outside of the stadium a ton I think it was like 20,000 people basically showing hey we
Have fans you just don’t put out a product and you’re moving the team you pieces of [ __ ] so the last di bar has a bunch of merch which is great and they have these bracelets and a couple A’s play players were wearing the bracelets and mysteriously got benched and sent
Down yeah I think there were four players that they’ve spotted but the the biggest names Ruiz Estuary Ruiz he was your hit by pitch guy he was my hit by pitch guy I think he led the majors in stolen bases last year he’s very fast he
Started out uh I think he went three for five yeah and then they sent him down to triaa he was wearing a last ey bar bracelet he was wearing a last dive bar bracelet um there was the other guy uh they’re they’re All-Star from last year
He got benched um so there it seems to be that they’re punishing the guys that are wearing these bracelets they’re basically saying we like the Oakland Coliseum and we like the fans like support us we want to support them so they’re punishing their own players allegedly for going up against the
Ownership and it’s sad man like I’m a little going to get a little bit serious but there’s nothing more evil than an owner of a sports team that treats their fans like [ __ ] and this guy is the king of it this it should be illegal what he’s doing he’s he’s taking away Joy
From an entire City he’s taken away like families growing up and becoming fans of the team and memories that you’re going to have with your family going to these games he’s taken away the community because he wants to make a little bit more money even though this this guy
He’s he’s a fail son yep his parents own the Gap he inherited all of his money and he wants to be like oh I want to make a name for myself I want to make my own money I’m going to steal a team away from a city that loves it and we’re
Going to move it to a city that does not give a [ __ ] about it yes and they’re cowards because he doesn’t doesn’t he he never faces the music he never answers to what he’s been doing he’s been putting out a terrible product and basically saying look no one’s here when
We know when the A’s are rocking that place is awesome the Coliseum is one of the coolest places when they’ve had these runs you know the 20 win game uh 20 game winning streak back in the Billy Bean days the the playoffs where they had guys dressed up and all this fun
Stuff they’re passionate fans and this [ __ ] head John fiser has basically robbed them not only of their team but kind of of their dignity because they’ve the way they’re going out is so sad and what he’s putting on the field is so sad that he’s like oh well no one’s showing
Up no no no you did this you created all of this and you’re a piece of [ __ ] and we stand with the city of Oakland and the fans of the A’s and uh it’s it’s so petty that he’s we don’t know for a fact that he you know made these roster moves
Because of the last Eye bar bracelets but a coward like him would make that type of move well if you listen to the way that the manager had to justify the moves you could tell he did not believe what he saying it sound like he was just
He had to say something that was not the owner told me to do this so he came up with something with ruiz where it’s like yeah you know last year he he need he needed some things that he had to work on yeah and did not address at all what
He’s you know he’s obviously one of the best players on your team and when you’re trying not to lose it’s a big double middle finger to your fans and credit to A’s fans because they have organized boycott they’ve organized reverse boycotts they’ve organized protests they’re doing everything that
They can like normally when a team gets moved it’s usually you know people are upset about it but you don’t have this big Uprising against it like you saw in uh in like European soccer for the Super League where people flip their [ __ ] the A’s are the A’s fans are actually going
Out there and making their voices heard and it just stinks having a guy yeah that just is outwardly hostile to your fan base so I don’t know if you know and they turned their replies off on their tweet their replies that’s the most cowardly [ __ ] you they’re cowards so
Here’s another thing that uh is crazy in the Cowardly nature of the A’s front office and ownership uh so last night we were talking via text and we were talking about how we won again because the A’s stink again this is not a we’re betting against the players we’re
Betting against John fiser because he’s a piece of [ __ ] and he’s going to he is actually going to do everything in his power to make sure that we keep winning our bets crazy correct correct so we were talking about it and we were talking about the last dive B
And how cool it was that these guys are you know so passionate about the A’s and trying to get the fans you know being like Hey we’re still here so uh we we I was like let’s go buy some of these bracelets support them I went on the
Last eyar website their merch is awesome I got a little crazy because I was going to buy merch for all of us so I ended up buying a lot of merch so I hit submit on the merch and Brian who runs the last di bar emailed me like two seconds later
And was like this was his email whoa what an order just want to make sure you intended to buy all those items and it wasn’t a slip of the thumb mind blown so I was like [ __ ] he probably thinks it like I me mess up and so I replied to
Him and I was like you know I’m Dan we we have part of my take like we support you guys and he sent me a couple links and the story with the last die bar and the a specifically just shows how cowardly these people are the last diar
Has been doing this for a while where they’ve been making incredible merch and being a part of the community and helping the community the A’s actually commissioned a bunch of the last ey bars work and MLB sent like a letter to them and was like hey you’re in copyright
Infringement and Brian was basically like but you don’t understand like like all of these designs the A’s commissioned this from us and essentially the A’s once the once the it was clear that they were going to move they ghosted the last ey bar completely never thank them for anything they had
Done for them never said like hey these guys made a lot of cool uh shirts and promos and all this stuff like they Brian was saying that they did Bingo night that he ran they basically pretended they didn’t exist and won’t even look them in the face this
Passionate fan group that has been doing a great job for the A’s so the A’s used them the minute they were going to move we’re like oh we don’t know those guys and have ignored them so if you’re looking to support the A’s they have a couple other groups the last ey bar
We’re going to be I bought a lot of stuff so we’ll be wearing it we’ll be wearing their bracelets and uh we want to support the city of Oakland because owners like this are pieces of [ __ ] they should not just sell the [ __ ] team sell the team to someone who wants to
Keep it in Oakland it’s like we’re at a point now where fans are smarter than they’ve ever been we know what’s going on it’s happening actually right now kind of lowkey with Jerry reinsdorf he’s pulling the same [ __ ] right now and if he tries to move the white sock to
Nashville we will absolutely be like [ __ ] you and do the same thing so it’s just we’re at a point now where fans can figure out we’re we’re not stupid we know what’s going on and we stand with the city of Oakland and [ __ ] John Fisher we do and nothing would make
Me happier than if every single player on the a wore that bracelet yeah what you can’t fire all of us yeah and that’s that’s a little unfair because they have jobs yeah they want to get paid they want to get paid they want to be in the
Big leagues I get I’m not saying that they’re bad people if they don’t do it at all it would just be funny to see what the A’s would do if everybody on that roster also wore this just sell the [ __ ] team man like just do it and go
And go [ __ ] off and you can make a lot of money you can make a lot of money [ __ ] off sell it to that Oracle guy yeah there’s a lot of money in the Bay Area find another just one billionaire that’s that’s who we should be putting pressure
On any of these like weird Silicon Valley type people as we’ve said on the show before if you’re a billionaire and you don’t own a sports team you’re [ __ ] weirdo one of those people needs to step up to the plate and just offer them a big big offer by the A’s keep
Them in Oakland I have thought the thought crossed my mind because our betting strategy is that we’re betting the same amount against the A’s every single game my thought the thought crossed my mind that what if we just one a game doubled it one a game doubled it
Until we had a billion dollars we buy the a that would be an awesome story wouldn’t it also um Major League Major League Baseball uh you’re currently embroiled in a gambling Scandal right now do you think it’s the best Optics to move a team to Las Vegas if Rob Manford is serious about
The gambling issue I think the first thing he should do would be to not let a team move to the city of sin I agree I agree but either way the last die bar guys and and like I said I I wish I had a list of the other ones I’m sorry that
I’m not uh don’t have all of them but there’s other other A’s groups that are doing great great work we are in preliminary talks uh depending on where our travel takes us this summer to potentially come out and support last di bar y we just did a live podcast in in the
Uh maybe we could trick John fiser to come on how could we do that um I don’t know he doesn’t he doesn’t talk to anybody we just put like a big box and a string and a pair of like khakis underneath with a with a big in a striped Polo disregard
Everything that we’ve said we are the biggest John fer fans in the world love to talk to him pick his brain about how to be a successful businessman hey you know what John Fisher you’re probably misunderstood want to come on pardon I take and explain your side of things
Because we’re just getting one side right now softballs only and it seems like in today’s culture billionaires are the easiest targets for people and they don’t get to stand up for themselves so we would like to be your mouthpiece oh man how great would that be if we could
Trick him to come on and then he walked off yeah that’d be great he’s a piece of [ __ ] man uh Oakland 68 was the other one Oakland 68 is the other fan group that I think uh does great stuff and they’ve worked in conjunction with uh last ey bar say
Something nice about the A’s as well um their Outfield grass is awesome dude the Coliseum rocks I love the grass in Oakland I know I even bought I I’ll say it I bought a couple uh art prints oh of the Coliseum yeah from the last ey bar
We’re going to put it up in the in the studio yeah we’re going to stand with Oakland and if you’ve seen the the artist rendition of the stadium that they’re planning on moving to or the one that fiser just threw out there it looks like the Sydney Opera house it’s just
Ridiculous they’re not going to move into that Stadium it has me Juiced up too because it’s like we we have you know an awesome platform that uh we’re very lucky to have and it’s like if we can use it to stand up for the regular
Fans like [ __ ] John fer yeah this is a [ __ ] John fiser podcast unless he wants to come on and then we’ll have him on and again softballs only John yeah it’ll be so nice we’ll ask you oh hey what’s uh your favorite type of jean cut yeah that’s good that’s air fair question
First question John hard question Tech vests are they back back yeah when you thought of uh making polos with vertical stripes were you like kaching you remember those swing commercials that you used to have with the all white background people jumping over each other that was brilliant you’re an
Advertising genius John you’re not a fail son uh I would I would like to just put this out there I will fight John fiser I would too and Ruff and Rowdy y I will I will fight him with one hand tied behind my back I will fight him with
Both hands tied behind my back so you fight him with one hand I’ll fight him with none just head butts only from big cat fight us John fiser you [ __ ] fight us you won’t he’s probably just sitting in his little Mansion like oh Vegas won’t like you that’s the other thing
Yeah you’re going to go out there they’ve already got their billionaire Mark Davis yeah he rocks not he would never move a team never he would he’s not gonna invite you to PF chanks [ __ ] damn it we got ourselves in that one hey call us old again you’re old okay okay
Than uh can I talk real quick about a fan base since we’re we’re on fan base talk uh that I wanted to give a quick shout out to and that is is the Providence Twitter Providence basketball Twitter fan base because I don’t know if you guys have seen this but they’re
Basically gaslighting Ed [ __ ] into resigning yeah they started there were I think it was an April Fool’s joke with a uh fake account blue check mark account being like Ed [ __ ] is about to resign Story coming soon and they’ve taken that and the hashtag the resignation is
Trending and uh I actually think if there’s one fan base that could get someone to be like wait am I resigning it’s the Providence basketball fan base they’re an army they’re crazy I love them so much they are a weapon I do not ever want to be on the wrong side of
They got John I mean it was once John Fanta did the windmill dunk they’re like our powers are unlimited yeah yeah so they’re going to get Ed [ __ ] to wake up and be like am I resigning there’s probably somebody in the Georgetown in the University that has seen that and
Been like wait is coach leaving that listen I know that he’s probably not resigning but it was 0% chance on Sunday and it’s at least a 5% chance today yeah all because enough people are tweeting the resonation Max you agree right yeah no I just love that you said it probably
Because you don’t know for certain whether he’s resigning exactly the the the the thought has been put out there and now he has to do a press conference saying he’s not resigning that at least has to happen you think he’s going to do one he has to address it I I think he
Might issue a statement he has to do something not it the world is talking and he has been weirdly silent yeah throughout all of this it is weird it’s it’s it’s very funny situation shout out to Pro Providence Twitter they are um yeah they I saw the the video Rico did
With them they’re psychos oh yeah but in like it’s a great they’re just passionate about Providence basketball and they have time on their hands yeah uh by the way breaking moo breaking moves Zach has been named National Player of the Year backto back great great good brilliant day for basketball
My theory was that uh that you know AI from from Texas yeah everyone’s like why does he pronounce his name like that it dawned on me when we were watching the games I was watching with Titus and I was like remember Joe thyman his name used to be thasan and he changed his
Name to thyman so that he would help a marketing campaign for winning the Heisman Trophy which by the way he did not win um I think asith changed the pronunciation of his name to Ryan with naith think about it yeah I am makes sense I am thinking about but yeah Zack
E won congrats so that wasn’t enough for Asus that was enough for him not not nearly he got close but not enough yeah Zack Ed is National Player of the Year backto back uh and we’ll see if he can CL did you guys see the clip of Zack Ed
Uh playing baseball yeah very funny gas I would have [ __ ] taken that 300 350 easy respectfully respectfully knock it out of the park he he threw what 75 74 I think yeah yeah he just looked so I bet it be hard to hit though yeah I
Mean it’s it’s hard to look it’s hard to look at on the mound what are you gonna say Jake as’s father said the B was originally a shar’s s no he changed it to Wi the nsmith W wrong it’s a German letter that resembles B but it’s actually respectfully you’re wrong dude
Whose name it is you are wrong we’re too smart for you yeah uh okay let’s do Hot Seat cool throne and then we will get to Jeff pass and great interview we touch on the with him uh PFT are you ready for your Redemption no the chill calendar hot SE cool Throne
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Fanatics uh we’ve talked about it a few times but yeah it it’s starting to bother me now that I’m watching a little more baseball just like not being able to read the the pitch is Jersey and it seems like every single night there’s a new example of got those old eyes the
Jerseys just being pieces of [ __ ] seeing it in person I was like those are really small on the the Nationals uh Co like they have the the first base coach had like different colored gray top and bottom yeah the Yankees pitcher who was sweating he just sweat through his
Jersey completely the sweat seems to be an issue for the for the road uniforms and I just feel bad for the fans cuz like if you order it used to be like if you order you know the most expensive Jersey comes stitched it comes everything and the ones that the fans
Are getting are also shitty so it’s reached a point where I don’t know what like they’re on the hot seat they have to solve this yeah now if you want to get a good Jersey you have to order a knockoff jersey online and it comes and you’re like wow this looks awesome you
Have to order an old Jersey Tom Tom L one of our great producers here at parcel had a a perfect tweet when the Mets and Brewers were were brawling and uh there was a screenshot of mcneel Jeff mcneel uh going crazy and he was just
Like it’s so hard to look tough in these jerseys cuz look his yeah I saw you have you have like size eight font so small you can’t be a tough guy in that cannot the side by side with uh Jason Kelce and Fletcher Cox throwing out the first
Pitch was tough because Kelsey was rocking the old uniform Cox was rocking the new one the yeah and you saw it and you’re like wow Kelsey looks way stronger the Cubs had uh the Cubs logo the secondary logo patch on some players had on their right some players had on
Their left that’s bad it’s crazy crazy crazy hot seat uh and then my cool Throne is Big Al ding yeah he’s back kid from Jersey uh Little League World Series a few years ago he said my name’s Big Al I hit dingers um okay I don’t
Want to BOS you but he never made it to the Regionals yeah Little League World Series coverage he never he never made it to Williamsport Williamsport okay you’re right he gets very upset when people say that cuz they’re like he never F he made it on TV that’s
Celebrate this kid and he never made it to Williamsport no it’s it’s it’s it’s hard were you on TV yes I was okay so that’s impressive get those highlight that that I have yeah have those we need those one for three with a riby did you
Do a camera thing what do you mean like my name is Max I can send this to you I’m Big Max and I drink sod my name is Max sente my favorite player is Shane Victorino wait just put your favor sh VCT send it to yourself so hav’t seen this he sent it
To us pull it up Max Dente I like two sodas and getting angry all right my name is Max delente I like second place my name is Ma I’m never cutting my hair after this video and I’m going to grow into some big meaty clappers we have big ow skinny now uh
Yeah he looks like he’s skinnier than he was in that video and he hit a home run in his high school game yeah yeah still hitting dingers he was jacked up I think he’s just a little owl now yeah he is a little ow oh here we oh yeah I remember
Watching this weird play it again you cute big Diddy the Lenny yeah what were you saying your name wrong I I swear to God I used to say that cuz I thought it sounded more Italian Del yeah it sounds Irish you kind of had that I look like
I’m going to cry I look like I’m in to cry face back then too yeah you do he has rest and cry face yeah all right uh Max Max shared something interesting with me the other week we’re talking about soups did you know that in Philadelphia they eat they
Eat turtle soup like actual Turtles like turtles they eat turtles and soup Ma s Snapper soup Max’s dad eats turtle soup like three times a week red snappa yeah I actually have an update on that I talked to my dad about that this weekend and he he couldn’t fathom that other
Parts of the country don’t eat here the thing is like it is funny because you would think like we eat all types of meat but Turtle I think it’s because Turtles it’s probably tortoise in the hair probably did the did enough good PR for them yeah yeah where they yeah like
There’s they’re all in children’s books little bunny rabbits little turtles that they they’ve skirted our appetites yeah yeah but if you were even in the if you were in the wilderness like bunny you think is fair game I would never think like if we get a turtle we can eat this
No they swim around the mud Al think bunny let’s get a bunny we can can catch a bunny and then we can cook this you can’t catch a bunny no probably not no I you could catch a turtle I would go for the river and just
Catch a bunny but that’s thing is you could catch a turtle with my bare hand easy to catch a turtle not easy to eat a turtle though it’s like lobster no just crack it over a rock like a yeah smash but yeah Turtles giant gusher Turtles and bunnies they’ve gotten great
Whoever did the pr on Turtles and bunnies chickens though got great PR and we can’t stop eating chicken do they have great PR they do they’re little red head is there I don’t think that’s good PR yeah the sky oh yeah did she say the
Sky is falling no that’s not good PR cuz they’re not like cute yeah like turtles and and bunnies are cute turtles are just so slow that it seems unfair to right they’re just like I’m going to get there eventually yeah there’s a a bunch of guys like in the 1600s in
Pennsylvania let’s go hunting yeah they just walk outside and they walk slowly after a turtle and got it yeah it’s it actually is like the easiest thing to catch I would imagine yeah turtle my other cool throw was raan wandoo oh yeah retired didn’t know he was not retired
At least I thought he’s been retired for three years yeah I thought that was NBA cenal when I saw that that kind of rules though to just be like a drop of retirement when everyone’s like what you were retired yeah but yeah shout out to raan Rondo great career alltime great
Yeah we actually had a funny were you with me PFT when we were in Indianapolis and we saw uh Blake Bortles uh agent and we were joking with like yeah remember when he retired just accidentally on the show he’s like yeah that caused a lot of
Problems like we got a ton of people hitting us up for comment and like interviews and Blake Blake just said like no I’m only talking to part in my take that’s awesome he rocks yeah good for him yeah uh okay your hot seat cool Throne uh my hot seat is USPS the Postal
Service okay because they’re seeing a a big big uptick in traffic via Cooper de Jean oh yeah so Cooper de Jean try hard cornerback at Iowa uh gritty guy hard worker coach’s son coach on the field plays the game the right way smart ham and eggs Shifty gritty guy uh sneaky
Athletic guy yep uh tough tough he’s a tough guy first one in last one out yep so he is uh he’s recovering from a leg injury he had a broken leg and he has sent a letter to every NFL team informing them that after suffering the broken fibula in November he has now
Been cleared to return to all football activities he’s going to do his own workout April 8th at Iowa he’s going to do onfield testing and position work without any restrictions he sent a letter to every team in the NFL I need to know was this letter written was it
Mailed was this an email if so Adam shefter reporting it as a letter not the correct story um whatever it is one NFL franchise is going to absolutely love this guy everyone else is going to be like [ __ ] this guy yeah I saw that it
Was it’s a try hard move but you got to try hard yeah if you’re applying for a job you have to stand out somehow yeah how many other defensive backs sent a letter none to every GM none um my cool Throne is women’s college basketball oh
Because it finally made it as we talked about at the top of the show big matchups but it didn’t officially make it until Bob Ryan weighed in about it oh yes and Bob Ryan uh had this following tweet after the uh the Iowa LSU game I applaud the greatness of Caitlyn Clark
Paige buers Angel Reese and JuJu Watkins Etc but In fairness to their predecessors I don’t see a better point guard than Don Staley or a better post player than Lisa Lesley great women’s basketball skill set is not new you have not officially made it as a sport until
Bob Ryan hits you with a back in my day the plays are better so this is the highest compliment that Bob Ryan can give the game of women’s college basketball by saying it’s actually not as good as when he was watching it and and just flexing on everyone I’ve been
Watching for a long time also the back in my day here isn’t even back in Bob Bryan’s Bob Ryan was old yeah when Lisa Les was like 50 years old old older I think and Don saley were playing we we it was one-w combo cuz it was Bob Ryan
And then it was rll saying still believe Caitlyn Clark could have gotten a better deal for herself and a better deal for us sports fans if she returned to Iowa versus going to the WNBA she’s got a shot to change WNBA but it’s still a long shot just the perfect we watched an
Awesome game we should celebrate it well actually and then [ __ ] you dude and then people were replying to him basically calling him a clown which rll has to be used to that by now that’s the default he probably has the clown Emoji muted on Twitter definitely so people were
Calling him out and then he said it’s not a great deal for us sports fans even in the replies so I don’t know what Revel means by that us sports fans us sports fans we deserve better we we do we demand better all right my hot seat
Is um we didn’t talk about it on on Monday but it happened late Sunday night uh Russell Westbrook getting into an argument with a Charlotte Hornets fan wearing a balloon hat a grown man wearing a balloon hat now Russell Westbrook has been very clear that if anyone calls him Westbrook he will
Confront them and I respect that but Russell Westbrook also has to realize that you are in an argument with a Charlotte Hornets fan grown ass man in a balloon hat never get in a fight with someone who has nothing to lose yeah that guy has zero to lose in life yeah he’s a
DieHard Hornets fan in a balloon hat he has nothing there’s uh there’s a great quote that is completely proven by this video never get into an argument with a fool because from a distance no one can tell the difference yeah and as you watch this video and you’re like these
Two fools Russell West excuse me I almost said the BR I word Russell Westbrook uh looks like a much bigger fool than the balloon hat guy because he’s arguing with the balloon hat guy and I just I don’t want people to antagonize NBA players but it would be funny if we
Could just see like how ridiculous of a costume someone could get in an argument with Russell Westbrook wearing yeah just just keep upping it a guy in a literal balloon I feel like if you wore a balloon hat the malice at the palace doesn’t happen if you’re the guy that
Throw down yeah he’s like oh although bigger Target it was this guy also seeing the balloon fly off with a punch would have been awesome awesome it just floats up into the stands yeah but can we get like can we get a Russell Westbrook arguing with a furry yeah we
Could probably do that my little brony the My Little Pony Bros yeah that could definitely also happen maybe someone who’s just actually naked I don’t know if you’d want to fight a naked guy that’s also a great way to get out of a fight just take all your clothes off and
Try to fight but it would be funny to see how far CU he will argue with anyone including balloon hat man who’s a Hornets the Hornets fan is definitely the saddest part of this do you think he like the balloon hat is like whatever he
He saw a balloon hat he put it on being that hard of a die hard of a Hornets fan you got problems do you think he would get into a fight with somebody wearing a Russell Westbrook Jersey yeah yeah that would be great I think it’s I think
There’s no limits uh and then my cool Throne is um Adam shefer because shefy finally got his revenge for uh the whole Aaron Rogers Saga lose my number Adam all that stuff uh shefer I didn’t even know this was a thing but shefer treated Jets QB Aaron Rogers earned
$814 through the NFL’s performance-based pay system the lowest amount among all NFL players last season I didn’t even know this was a thing it’s kind of cool that it is but the system rewards all NFL players based on their play time and base salary if a player has a low base
Salary but plays a significant number of snaps he earns more through the system with Rogers having the opposite a high salary and playing Just 3.33% of snaps due to his torn Achilles his total amount came to $81 and 14 cents that rocks Sher that was Sher
Getting it back and he did it with facts there’s a reason why he did it to Aaron Rogers and not to Demar Hamlin I want to see the Demar facts how much did Demar get paid last year yeah this is a cool system though if you if you’re on a
Shitty contract and you play a shitload of snaps you should get more yeah I like it yeah but uh good job chefer I know he he was smiling when he sent that one off uh Jake your hot seat cool throg my hot seat is studying uh a student at NC
State emailed a professor saying he’s lit a right now and asked if he can move the test to Wednesday and he did smart the professor was like this is awesome this is Poss my favorite email of the year you’ve convinced me yeah I like it that’s that’s really strong work usually
Those don’t work and and great job like you not only helped yourself but the rest of the class that was too cowardly to send that exact same email lit AF lit AF I always hate the stories this time of year from professors that are like we’re still in school to go to school
Yeah you have to come to class every single day 9:00 a.m. I don’t care if there’s a parade I hate although I do think this is very specific like um if it was like duke or Kentucky or Kansas I feel feel like the professor has a an
Ability to be like we expect to be here yeah you know what I mean like NC State you have to let them take the test a day later because no one expected this run whereas a blue blood you be like listen we don’t we don’t celebrate final fours
We celebrate Championship Kansas I could see it happening because it’s the biggest thing there yeah Duke definitely not yeah also if I was a professor I just wouldn’t schedule an exam for the three weeks of the tournament because you never know well but if you’re Inc State yeah you didn’t even think you’re
Going to be in the tournament yeah yeah yeah yeah uh my cool Thrones no hitters the Astros did it again yep this time it was one person again they did it again they thrown a lot of big no hitters yeah yeah I’m so over no hitters remember
When no hitters used to be like you they’d even go to bonus coverage I so I’m over no hitters but I can pinpoint exactly when it started I think it was the start of last season I be I think I’ve been oh yeah over right at right
Open day opening day2 three I was like no more no hitters yeah this is pretty crazy since June 2022 via Jason Stark Astros four no hitters the rest of the league three oh so that that’s a big one including postseason including postseason yeah that’s important yeah uh
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Special guest is Jeff passon from ESPN talking Baseball Jeff first of all thank you so much for joining us we’ve wanted to have you on the show we are we’re light on baseball coverage so this is something that we’ve wanted to do uh and have you on so thank you for joining us
We want to do a little baseball preview with you um talk about a bunch of different things but I think we need to start where everyone is thinking right now can you tell us when we’re going to get an answer to Sho otani’s situation I
Think it’s going to be a long time and here’s why um this is such a tiny little speck of a much larger investigation that’s going on right now into this alleged illegal gambling ring in Southern California and there are ties to Las Vegas and there are ties to casinos and there are ties
To all sorts of other things involved here and because it’s such a small thing I understand like it’s a big headline because it’s a big name and shotani and like international Man of Mystery and we don’t know a whole lot about him to begin with and now our insight into him
Is that uh he’s you know from his account $500,000 wire transfers like at least nine of them being sent to you know this bookie uh and maybe it was his translator and the money got stolen from like it’s a it’s a patently ridiculous story um but in the grand scheme of
Things it’s just a tiny part of the bigger one and because Major League Baseball doesn’t want to step on the toes of federal investigators its investigation is more or less going to be going parallel but waiting until the end of the federal investigation and because of that it
Could be a while till there’s any sort of I guess resolution is is maybe the right word but more than that Clarity because this thing is still so opaque and so odd and there’s so many unanswered questions at this point and I I think that’s the issue that everyone
Has with it like what’s the [ __ ] truth right yeah that’s smart by Major League Baseball by the way to to wait for the federal investigation to happen they get to play it like as slowly as possible but you’re right so it is it’s a tiny Speck in that investigation but
Also show saying that there’s been a big crime committed against him personally so that’s another investigation that could happen but to my knowledge there haven’t been any charges pressed against him for the crime against shohi is that true you are correct PFT and and that’s the that’s the part of this that’s
Really confusing to us as reporters right now trying to figure this out if a crime is committed generally authorities are involved and they get looped in and they get told what the alleged crime was and they started investigating it now otani’s Camp has said that they’ve referred these allegations to
Authorities they just don’t say which authorities they’ve referred them to and until we get a sense that there’s an actual investigation going on into this alleged massive theft why should we believe that there was a massive theft because sh Otani says so because there’s incentive for him not to lie sure like
If you go out in public and say I got stolen from there’s no reason not to believe you but we’d like to at least verify that we haven’t been able to figure out at this point which agency is investigating if anyay mitara the translator and that to me is the
Confusing part that that to me would answer a lot of the questions like if they if we know know who’s looking into the alleged theft then all of a sudden we realize okay yeah you know this isn’t just SH otani’s word this isn’t just his lawyer or his people going out and
Saying he got stolen from the cops are actually looking into this uh we just don’t know which cops if any at this point are looking into it and what they found right right the whole story and I mean adding the fact that he is the face
Of baseball I would assume that it would be help it would be dealt with a little bit differently if it was a journeyman player and this had happened they have to obviously be very careful with this uh okay so I I’m waiting for the forensic accounting that’s what I’m I’m
I’m banking on I didn’t even know that forensic accounting guy yeah I didn’t even know that existed uh until this story happened I was like oh [ __ ] that’s a job okay isn’t that what Ben Affleck did when when he was just killing people yeah the movie the accountant had autism
And he was just killing people a forensic accountant is an accountant that has a gun yeah that’s exactly what it is okay got it it’s a hired Hitman all right so uh in terms of this season and a in a little preview I read your
Story about uh the fact that this is a weird spot for baseball right now because the playoffs have expanded but also the collective bargaining agreement has changed now I’m not very smart I understand the playoffs expanding part yes thank you I am not because I read it
And I was like I just couldn’t understand it can you explain it to me like I’m five how the collective bargaining agreement has now made it so that more teams feel like they are have a chance to compete and get into the playoffs so let’s look back at the last
Three Octobers the team with the worst record in the league three consecutive years among playoff teams has made it to the World Series and so what that suggests to teams is October baseball is a complete crapshoot you know this isn’t like the NBA or the NFL that quite often
It pretty Chalk in the playoffs like you know if you have Patrick Mahomes you are probably going to be making it to at least the AFC Championship Game unless you just have a complete garbage roster surrounding you and even if you don’t have a wide receiver room that’s worth a
Damn you still can go and win a Super Bowl in Major League Baseball your regular season record you know the Baltimore Orioles won 101 games last year got bounced early Atlanta two years in a row 100 plus wins bounced by the Phillies Dodgers bounced by the 84 win
Diamond backs who finished 16 games back of them what that says to teams is as long as I got like a lottery ticket as long as I got a chance in the postseason that’s all that really matters and so instead of playing for those hundred wins teams are content to go out there
And spend enough money to go and play for 85 or 86 or 87 wins and hope that they catch a heater and so what what has happened even though there’s immense payroll disparity in baseball you know you’ve got the Mets the Yankees and the Dodgers all with payrolls over $300
Million and you’ve got nine teams above the luxury tax threshold and then you’ve got nine other teams that are 100 million plus dollars below that luxury tax threshold like you’ve got this enormous payroll disparity but you only have four teams really in in the Rockies uh the white socks the Nationals uh and
The A’s that that don’t have much of a chance of I me let’s look at the Pirates like the Pirates have a low payroll they have a young team and they have started Five-0 this year and I understand Five-0 start in baseball you know it’s it’s
Like two or three perc of the season but at least it shows like they have the opportunity to be competitive and in Major League Baseball in 2024 guys you don’t have to be great you just have to be competitive and get to October and then once October comes anything really
Can happen yeah I’m I’m still I’m upset a little bit with the Nationals I can’t be too upset with them because we did win a World Series just a few years ago so that buys me like 10 years of Goodwill for him but the the other teams that you mentioned particularly the A’s
We’ve stumbled across a um a market inefficiency in baseball we have a betting algorithm that we figured out which is just bet against the Athletics every single day and uh it seems to be pretty profitable thus far but on behalf of A’s fans what the [ __ ] are they even
Doing with their team they’re they’re going to they’re trying to move the team the owner is not trying to be competitive at all in fact he’s like trying not to be competitive they sent uh Ruiz back to Triple A they benched their Allstar from last year word on the
Street is they did it because they were wearing protest bracelets which we stand with those players if they were in fact wearing the th bar bracelets um if if you’re the Oakland Athletics how is this not a crime to just not even try to be competitive in the sport like how what’s
What’s the motivation for the other owners to be okay with certain teams not even trying to put forth a competent product because the second that there are constraints that are put on one team all the other owners worry that it’s going to be put on them if at some point
They try to move a team they try to lose games to get higher draft picks etc etc like owners owners never I mean think about it like billionaires don’t like regulations yeah and that that’s essentially what you’re asking for here and it’s a really reasonable thing
Because I’m sorry but as as somebody who grew up in Cleveland and who worshiped the movie Major League I never thought I would see it in real life yeah yeah that’s exactly what’s going on here they are sucking as bad as they could possibly suck in order to facilitate a
Move that shouldn’t have necessarily been made in the first place and I think that like the saddest part of this whole thing Beyond Oakland getting its last professional franchise ripped away from the city is poor Las Vegas inherits the A’s in John fiser yeah like there is oh
I can’t I can’t wait for all of the excitement when a complete horseshit franchise with an owner who has proven for five years going on once they get there that he does not care that’s what we want to have as Las Vegas fans that’s what’s going to draw us out to the
Ballpark it’s just backward and and and it shows you like when there are poor incentives in place this is the this is the consequence of that like this is the upshot of of there being incentives to stink and be rewarded for it and you know in the in the last collective
Bargaining agreement I think MLB did a did a better job of disincentivizing tanking you know they put a draft lottery in place um if you if you have a player who is a top 100 Prospect who comes and wins Rookie of the Year you get an additional first round draft pick
Like there there are things there now it’s not it’s not perfect but it’s better than it used to be the A’s are just like I don’t care our draft pick is GNA get moved down because we’ve sucked for so long okay like it’s just you know it it’s unfortunate that owners didn’t
Take a stand on this and that their self-interest got in the way of the greater good of the sport is is there any hope that the A’s don’t move because it does feel like Vegas there’s there’s so it’s it’s dead we we we should it’s
No it’s not it’s not dead you know there there’s a there’s a group of teachers uh for example who are trying to say hey the the hundreds of millions of dollars that you are spending on this stadium that you are gifting to a billionaire um yeah that should go to kids that should
Go to education um but it’s a you know it’s a last ditch effort like in all likelihood it’s probably not going to work and this is going to happen but here’s the thing guys uh is as badly as the A’s have screwed up their onfield product they
Have screwed up in many other ways business-wise too they have been trying to get a stadium deal done in Oakland for Upward of 20 years now and haven’t been able to so the notion that they’re going to be able to land the plane here uh and and move things to Vegas it it’s
Not a done deal it’s just that all the momentum is going in that direction so roting against the obviously John fiser we hate him I’m Pro teacher and pro kids this child this is a pro child podcast yes yes uh okay so other question about um the disparity and this is maybe you
Can tell me this is crazy to think but I have the feeling that if the Dodgers keep losing in the playoffs the way they have they’re going to try to change the playoffs so that it’s because like we’ve heard the Rumblings where they play a five game series and they’re like this
Isn’t fair we should be in the playoffs still can is that is that a real fear of mine that they’re going to try to Tinker with it because they’re going to basically say these teams like you mentioned the last place team to make the playoffs has made it to the World
Series is that going to happen uh it’s certainly possible after the 2026 season when they get into new collective bargaining discussions because remember like it used to be just a one game wild card now they’ve expanded it to a three- game wild card series it’s like to Major
League Baseball more playoffs is never a bad thing right when when you have a sport whose National audience has dwindled to the point that MLBs has where it’s become like a completely Regional sport that has a post season that you know some people watch but a
Fraction of what used to still more eyes are on those playoff games and more playoff games equals more TV money and more TV money is a good thing when the TV money that you have right now isn’t necessarily going in the right direction so I absolutely could see that now you
Can make the argument big cat like you want your postseason to closer represent the regular season right and the the the easiest way to do that is to have longer series because over longer series you know it’s not quite as small of a sample and the the weird [ __ ] that happens in
Baseball may not happen quite as much as you would have in a three- game series so uh if if that first round were to expand to five it wouldn’t surprise me I don’t know if it’s for the sake of the Dodgers though I think I think it’s for
The sake of when you have people saying uh hey what’s the point of the regular season if you win a 100 games and then like you know that you can get bounced in the playoffs it’s a reasonable argument it’s just that if the Dodgers weren’t choking things away in October
The Braves were choking things away in October then the you know the discussion wouldn’t quite focus on them the same yeah yeah what about the Yankees CU it feels like this entire postseason discussion is all for not because the Yankees are just going to win everything
For the next five years H definitely not no we say we say hard no on that the Juan sto does look here’s my problem with Wan soda being on the Yankees he’s too fun of a player to be on the Yankees like I want somebody I can hate on the
Yankees just you know ruining everybody’s dreams juoda is a very difficult player to root against but it does see do you hate Aaron judge uh yeah I kind of hate Aaron judge yeah yeah yeah is that because he’s very large and intimidating and if I was that
Big I would be an All-Star too I would hit 70 home runs I didn’t like when I didn’t like when they they celebrated that home run ball that he hit like it was the uh the Major League record yeah which was the dumbest thing ever yeah I
Guess I don’t really yes I hate eron judge but the Yankees aren’t as hatable overall as I would like them to be but it seems like they’re built to be just a a Powerhouse and I feel like we’re we did our our season pre not our preview
But our picks and uh I wish I could go back and change them and just say it’s going to be the Dodgers and the Yankees in the world it’s going to be the Dodgers of the Yankees in the World Series um but what what would be like I
Would I would be I would be okay with the Dodgers Yankees World Series it’s been a long time since we’ve had one of those and and the Yankees let’s remember like their last World Series win was in 2009 like Yankees fans I I mean I understand they’ve had 27 championships
Right so they can rest on that and there’s no complaint about that but 15 years for a fan base that every year comes into the season thinking we need to win the World Series it’s totally World Series or bust like Yankees fans right now are salty I mean they wanted
To get rid of the general manager in the offseason they wanted to get rid of the manager like this was a seminal year and then Garett Cole gets hurt you know the best pitcher in baseball for least two months and uh I I wasn’t quite as bullish frankly coming into the season
On the Yankees I worried that they were too old I worried that their pitching wasn’t deep enough but these first five games they’ve looked awesome and and the fact that they have come back uh especially in sweeping Houston which the the day after they play the Yankees they
Go out and throw an no hitter yeah um it it I mean it shows you like this Yankees team means business right now I I just want to see it continue um and and not not on a personal level but on a I’m still not fully in that the Yankees are
A jug or not I think the Dodgers are a better team I think the Braves are a better team and I picked the Orioles in the American League east and honestly I still think the Orioles are a better team than the Yankees yeah yeah they’re
A very fun team too yeah what um je Jeff what’s the next Money Ball what’s the next uh thing that uh front officers are doing that is different that might be at the head of the you know the tip of the spear here where it’s like in 10 years
We’re going to be like oh that what they did was genius and they won titles and they and they had such success what’s the next like Market inefficiency in baseball that teams are now going after uh cheap plug here back in 2016 I wrote a book called the arm and it was
About the idea that Major League Baseball every year wastes about a billion dollars on pitchers who are injured it’s not quite that you know it’s not quite that it’s a lot of money that they spend on guys who get hurt and you know when you see the number of
Pitching injuries that there have been this year the number of bigname guys who are out because of arm injuries figuring out how to keep pitchers healthy is the Holy Grail of Major League Baseball and the first team that can truly figure out how to do it is going to win
Championships because of it now the problem is I don’t know if that’s an achievable goal right right because all of this starts in Youth Baseball all of this starts when you’re 12 and 13 and 14 and you have some [ __ ] coach who’s going and throwing you out there much
More than he should so this is a problem uh that a frankly a lot like concussions it’s not the same thing because concussions it’s a life or death thing but it’s similar to concussions in the fact that it starts at a really early age and then manifests itself when guys
Get to college and when they get to Pro bow and when their bodies get bigger and they’re throwing harder um figuring out how to save arms it’s not just individual teams Major League Baseball as a whole is taking this on because I think they realize just how big of a
Problem this has become so is there one uh front office that you know of that feels like they’re you know they’re being very Proactive or one front office that you’re like this this this group of people are they’re doing something that could eventually lead them to the right
Path of figuring this problem out I I mean in terms it’s interesting you you look when you look for something like that you’re looking for the teams that do process the best right because this is going to be a very process oriented thing if they can figure it out you know
There’s not going to be like some mad scientist who’s just sitting back there and goes aha I figured out how to do this I I was looking at spreadsheets and this tells me no this is a combination of doctors of trainers of performance folks um you know analytics like
Everyone is trying to get together to solve this and when you look at the teams that have understood and developed good pitchers you think that they would be able to apply those same principles to pitching injuries as well and that’s the Dodgers uh the Guardians the Rays you
Know teams that are very not just analytically inclined but understand that uh when you’re approaching a problem uh you have to do it in a very uniform way to try and get the best solution yeah what about this Jeff what if what if some teams just start doing
Preemptive Tommy John surgeries on every pitcher that they drafted well PFT to uh to quote from my own book The Greatest uh predictor of a future arm injury uh is a past arm injury and if you have surgery you are far likelier to have a surgery in the
Future because of it so uh I love the preemptive Tommy John surgery idea uh but uh you’re [ __ ] so it’s a listen there are no wrong answers except for that one yeah none of course okay similar to the question about who’s going to uh what’s the next Money Ball I
Love thinking about the teams that are on the rise that have the young like rosters that people don’t know about yet obviously the Orioles people know about but that was a couple years ago they started to put it all together that evolution is one of my favorite parts of
Baseball the year before they become real good teams I’ve always said that the 2015 Cubs were one of my favorite teams cuz they completely overachieved but what teams should we be looking at this season that they might be a year or two away but they’re going to play some
Really fun baseball and they’re gonna have some guys that people are going to want to watch I love the Cincinnati Reds uh and and we saw a little of it last year and and big hatat like you see it with the Cubs uh this is a dangerous
Team they hit a lot of home runs and whether it’s Spencer steer Christian and carosi on strand Ellie De La Cruz you know Matt mlan is going to be an star he’s out for the year with shoulder surgery no Elie Marte out with the p suspension but someone like will Benson
You know he was with Cleveland for a long time never never got a crack there goes to Cincinnati and is playing a pretty damn good center field for a really big guy right now because TJ friedel’s on the Shelf so like that’s three good bats that are out Cincinnati’s still winning because of
Their hitting and they just have a lot of pitching depth too and when it comes to pitching you know I I almost look at like the Royals once upon a time before their Championship had like five really good left-handed arms and pitching I is is such a crapshoot that if out of Five
Guys you can get like a good starter and a good reliever then that’s a pretty good outcome some of these other organizations have done better at developing pitching frankly but I look at Cincinnati and they’ve got like seven eight Big League rotation arms right now if they can get through three good
Pitchers there they’re going to be a problem in that National League Central Division for a while and while while that division right now doesn’t look the greatest Cubs are going to be good soon because I think they’re going to start spending some money this winter and they
Have one of the three best farm systems in baseball so they’re going to be good um I I just can’t imagine the Cardinals continuing to be as mid as they have been for a long time I don’t think the fans are going to stand for it honestly
Uh Pittsburgh is on the come up it’s not just a 5-0 start Paul SK is coming soon and he’s going to be probably you know as long as he stays healthy he’s gonna be one of the 10 best best pitchers in baseball uh for a while and you know
Milwaukee’s just constantly solid like they’re they’re a processed team that does the process well and so the NL Central has a chance in the coming years to be really really good yeah I I agree I mean it was not too long ago that we had I think that 2015 year where it was
You know the Pirates won 98 games the Cubs won 97 the Cardinals won 100 um yeah and the Cubs also they SP they they saved all their money on the pyrate Technics for opening day so they’re going to be able to spend it on free
Agency so that was good how can you do that well how can you just is there any explanation for how it can be so bad I I I don’t know the explanation here’s the my only my only take when I saw cuz it was at the game yesterday I got there a
Little bit after they had this incredible I don’t know if you saw it PF I’m looking up right now it was uh one of the craziest pyrot Technics uh I’ve ever seen uh all I said to myself when I saw that video was thank God thank God
The Cubs won a World Series because that was old Cubs that would have been a like front page story I don’t know if you remember but there was like it was like 10 years ago when Ron Santo passed away and they had a bunch of kids sign a card
And then a reporter found the card thrown out in the track like in the dumpster outside Wrigley like immediately after so they used to do all this [ __ ] it was one of the worst pirate Technics ever but thank God they won a World Series I think you can get
Away with it when you win a World Series recently you can’t stop laughing C they keep they keep coming out of the Dugout and then they only have two of the sparklers working and then one of them doesn’t even really work that well it was so pathetic this is pretty it’s not
Good it’s not at that point you just got to not have sparklers at all I kind of like it though it’s just like we had to do something to make it feel different it is different yeah I’ll give you that it’s quite something it’s definitely different yeah um speaking of young arms
Yamamoto out in La uh he stunk in his first appearance he was really bad second appearance pretty good so uh where where are we at are we uh if you’re a Dodgers fan if you’re in the Dodgers front office are you not concerned at all with Yamamoto you just
Chalk that first start up to to nerves and you think okay this guy’s as as promised he’s going to be great for a number of years yeah they’re not going to give 300 $25 million to a guy who they’re going to be out on after one
Start but them giving $325 million to A6 foot tall right-hander um there’s a lot of risk involved in this contract especially because he doesn’t do things the way that pitchers do now like if you’re a pitcher in 2024 the goal is to get as strong as you
Possibly can and to throw harder than everyone else and the the way you do that is in the weit room it’s in training your arm yoshinobu Yamamoto does things completely differently like have you seen the javelins that he throws no yeah I actually have yeah it’s
Crazy so so he goes into the Outfield and he throws they’re not like real ja like stab you in the head javelins they’re they’re like the it’s it’s it’s almost like a like a combination between a real Javelin like a Nerf one yeah and he goes and throws these things and he
Does stretching and yoga poses and handstands and he just has this extremely functional strength that reminded people in the Dodgers organization of Tim Lindo that’s the comp that they’re making on this guy because when you look at him you know he’s not a big guy he’s not like a
Traditionally strong guy he just makes his body move better than anybody else out there and that’s what they’re banking on and it’s the sort of thing that listen like we’re we’re all older now we we’re we may not be professional athletes but we realize that your body
Creaks a little bit when you get into your 30s and your muscles don’t work quite the same and to sign them to a 12-year contract they did that because he’s only 25 right and they’re spreading spreading out the the risk over multiple years but man when you get into your 30s
That sort of regimen I will be very curious to see how that plays as he ages because it works now and it works really well now and I think he’s going to be really good now but uh long term you do wonder how his body is going to react to that do
You think uh Major League Baseball from a front office perspective has kind of figured out Japanese baseball and the fact that there’s they feel a little more confident getting these guys because there was a time when it was you know dce G rabu kmat sui some of these
Guys fuka like they they FL they were good but they were not what everyone kind of thought they would be and then you have sh and you know even the Cubs yesterday starting with imaga who was great like have are teams more confident when they bring a guy from Japan in their
Translation to MLB 100% And that is strictly because of the data that we have now like you’re able to take every characteristic of a pitch that a guy throws and compare it to people around MLB and see the effectiveness and translate it accordingly in the past you were just
Going on eyeballs like you were just going on the word of Scouts who said that hey I think this guy is going to be this and we’re going to go out and bet on it now they bet on the numbers yeah and you know in in the case of imaga um
I think his health and and the long-term uh viability of the shoulder and elbow was the only reason that he got $53 million there was an expectation that he was going to be a nine figure type guy because the stuff even though like we just look at on screen when it get games
Going on at a fast ball that’s you know topping out like that last pitch he threw was 93 right and it was it was down the middle but the characteristics of his fast ball even if the velocity is not there play really well you know he gets a lot of induced vertical break
Which in a non nerd term essentially means the ball has carry to it so a normal fast ball right it as as a hitter your eyes are trained to expect a fast ball to drop a particular amount before it goes to the plate when you have a
Really high vert number the ball stays up on a higher plane for a longer amount of time and that’s why you see swings underneath those fast balls and so because the pitch characteristics of imanaga were so successful and because the metrics say that this guy stuff is
Going to play teams are a lot more confident that what they think they’re going to be getting in terms of performance they’re actually going to be getting trans translated to MLB that’s interesting yeah interesting I like that Jeff passons brought to you by proper 12 pick up a bottle try it for
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Year raay or excuse me uh uh Diamond Backs Rangers um it felt like the Diamondbacks came out of nowhere we are seam heads we understand that Dan Heron turned that teing staff around um is there by the way can can we can we talk about Dan
Harm for a second yeah best he is the best the best the best he is he is one of my favorite human beings in baseball and getting to see him in the World Series last year like it it it brought joy to me because nobody deserves it
More than that guy yeah he deserves all the credit so now this all Famer we’re still working on his case he had what the best postseason yeah six Innings or less or something in the World Series I we got a bunch of stats Dan Herron stats we’re going to
Get him compiled and we’ll get you voting for him he should be in the Hall of Fame yes uh so so this year are the expectations for the dime backs are they are they a legit Contender again because it seems like they kind of came out of nowhere last year nobody expected them
To reach the World Series is that now the expectation for the Diamondbacks it should be they just happen to play in a division with a team that spent a billion dollars this off seon and so any headline that the Diamondbacks were going to generate uh you know the the
Dodgers they they just wash over everything I mean they’re they you know they’re like an Unstoppable Juggernaut who also by the way got swept by the Diamondbacks in the postseason last year and and the Diamondbacks by the way like they’re a better team this year than
They were last year they go out and trade for aano Suarez they resign lordis Gorel they sign Eduardo Rodriguez uh they they get Jordan Montgomery on an absolute steal like we saw Jordan Montgomery carve in the postseason last year like he’s a guy who’s got big balls
And wants to pitch when it matters and to get him for one year 25 million dollar contract and to pair him with with Haron and Brent STM you know guys who both pitched in the big leagues both were really good pitchers in the big leagues but also have embraced numbers
In a way that Montgomery has too like it’s a perfect pairing I think so this is a better Diamondbacks team than last year that division’s just nasty like the Giants spent a lot of money this off season got Jang Huli from Korea he’s been really good to start got Jorge cair
Got Blake Snell toward the end of spring training and Matt Chapman as well uh they’re a much improved team uh San Diego sucked last year I think they’re going to be better this season like there are four uh potentially excellent teams in the National League West and I
Don’t anticipate like all the wild cards coming out of there but it wouldn’t surprise me if two of the Wild Card teams in the National League came from the West yeah and and the other side of that world series The Rangers um have the opportunity I guess every team has
This opportunity after they win a World Series but when when was the last time we had a repeat was it 1999 99 and two 98 99 and 2000 when the Yankees went back to back to back there has not been one this Century yeah so do
The Rangers do they have a chance are they well positioned would you expect big things out of them this year I’m going to be able to answer that question better I think in August and here’s why right now what the Rangers have is a devastating offense you know Marcus
Simeon at the top of the order Corey Seager who’s just as clutch as it gets after that Wyatt Langford who at this time last year was playing for the University of Florida is like near the top of the lineup right now and the Rangers stole him in the draft with a
Fourth overall pick he is really really good like the comparisons from Scouts have been to Mike Trout he’s not as good as Mike Trout but he has like that linebacker build six foot 6 foot one 225 pounds just like a ball of muscle and he can hit the ball really really far um
They got a f year Evan Carter and I can go on and on about their lineup the reason I want to wait until August though is because they have three pitchers right now who are on the injured list who were expected to be back back by then de ma sherzer Tyler
Molly and Jacob deg Grom and deg Grom is uh you know sherzer like he’s gonna be effective he will be fine he it’s him and and Verlander they’re just freaks who pitch into their 40s and still find a way to be power pitchers then uh Molly’s coming off Tommy John surgery
And uh has been solid like an Innings eating type guy but de Gro when he’s healthy guys is the best pitcher on the planet um and and having him back in that rotation down the stretch and knowing that you’re not going to have too big of an Innings limit on him
Because he doesn’t have to pitch the entire season like the fact that you can crank him up in a in August and September and send him out there in October if Jacob deg gram is all well and good this year the Rangers I’m not sure that they become favorites again
But I’m not sure either that there’s a better team in the American League yeah by by the way I looked up a preempt of Tommy John surgery I’ll just you call be a [ __ ] um there are a lot of people that have thought about this and discussed it so it’s an actual
Conversation there’s more morons absolutely they’re morons too they’re all on message boards so um but a lot of people are talking about it oh yeah you got morons backing you up um you mentioned a name there Jeff that I wanted to bring up and I was thinking
About it yesterday when I was at the Cubs game and I saw Chris Bryant and it made me sad that Chris Bryant was it’s kind of fallen off and he also went to an organization that has not had success and he’s almost lost but Mike Trout will
We ever get to see Mike Trout play in the playoffs will Mike Trout ever be either freed from Los Angeles or uh maybe they put a team around him because it’s crazy that we’re this deep into Mike Trout’s career and he is such a Surefire Hall of Famer and we still
Don’t have that like seminal Mike Trout playoff run yeah because Mike Trout’s one playoff off series that he’s had over over a career that is now in its 14th season like that’s a that’s a ridiculous thing to think that you can have a guy who is a first ballot Inner
Circle Hall of Famer like when you talk about the greatest players of all time Mike Trout is going to be in that conversation he’s had one playoff series it was against the Royals and they got swept in three games yeah it’s it’s as ugly as it can possibly get and and it
Just shows you how baseball’s different and I think that it’s one of the things I love about the game that you could have the two best players in the sport and and you can make a pretty damn good argument that sh Otani and Mike Trout were the
Two best players on the same team and that team is still garbage and has been garbage for a while now uh building around him I don’t see it and here’s why I don’t see it because the angels are a fundamentally broken organization starting at the top I don’t know if this
Is the same in CA sports like when you have a terrible owner in football can you still win no yeah you can I think if you have a great quarterback ter win terrible terrible owner no bad owner yes definitely okay all right that’s fair um art Arty Moreno last year
Had the opportunity to do something that would have changed the trajectory of this franchise he could have traded shotani near the trade deadline in fact the angels’s front office was going around soliciting trade offers for Otani in hopes that there was one moment of weakness from Mary Moreno where he
Said you know what [ __ ] it go do it trade him and they wanted to have offers ready because if given that opportunity they knew that 10 minutes later he might change his mind and that the window was that minuscule to go out and get this deal done which would have brought back
I I mean I’m not exaggerating here like Top 10 Prospects like a huge huge return that would have allowed this team to weather this transition better instead what Arty Moreno chose to do was to build around sh Otani and to add Lucas gielo and to
Go out and trade for guys uh to add to a team that was fundamentally flawed in that anyone out there who knows baseball knew was never going to make a run yeah was never going to amount to anything and what happened in the process is that an already mediocre farm system got
Gutted completely and now they’re they’re in a position where they don’t have I mean don’t have really any good prospects you know I think they’re the 30th ranked uh team in terms of farm systems by Kylie McDaniel at ESPN uh they their major league roster has a few
Guys like they have some interesting guys on it but in a division like the AL West that has the Rangers the Astros and the Mariners the Angels aren’t competing there and they’re also not willing to go over the luxury tax threshold so when you don’t have prospects you don’t have
A reasonable big league roster you’re not willing to spend money explain to me how you’re going to be any good yeah the answer is they’re not right and so because of that you know Mike Trout has been enormously patient and he desperately wants to win in Los Angeles
Like he’s so badly wants to have a good team in Orange County that uh that allows him to to complete his story right his story he wants it to be the guy who stayed with the franchise for his whole career you know he’s he’s somebody who that matters to but the
Intersection of that desire to remain with the team with the desire to be able to walk around with a big fat ring on his finger like those two things are button up head-to-head right now because the man’s not getting any younger and time is wasting away and at some point
You would have to think that his desire for a championship is going to overwhelm that desire to stick around with the angels so free Mike Trout free him I I just want to see him play playoff baseball I want to see him hit balls you know million miles that home run he hit
The other night was incredible he Max our producer wants him in the Phillies because he’s obviously a Philadelphia guy so maybe we get that speaking by the way of that home run uh are they juicing the balls again I hope so I think they are because the the overs are 66% in the
First week of the Season which obviously small sample size but you also got some really bad weather games where they’re not conducive to to runs right hoping they they’re juicing the balls again something to like why wouldn’t they I I mean pitchers would complain like I I remember I remember talking with Justin
Verlander at an All-Star Game a few years ago like when they were like when the balls were really flying and he just went off and and the problem with juicing balls is Major League Baseball like we’re always on the edge of an Integrity problem with the sport after
The Astros like is that not the lingering consequence of what Houston did um it’s that we always are going to wonder are things on the up and up with Major League Baseball so uh in the wake of the trash cans uh with your biggest star by far uh and meshed in a gambling
Scandal um do you want to be juicing balls like do you want that to be the storyline there I I’m okay with it too maybe Shi just needs to bet overs and he gets out of the debt yeah there we go we solved all the problems maybe maybe Shi
Being on a team where it’s profitable for for him to win if he bets on his own team maybe that’s good for the sport too maybe he was $4.5 million in debt because he bet on the Angels every day yeah I I want the balls Juiced I want to
See the balls I want to see dingers people like dingers with baseball it’s like the most important thing to uh to the oldtimers to the custodians of the game are the numbers and so you wouldn’t see this you wouldn’t see anything in basketball if you know if if points
Points are up in basketball but nobody’s complaining about it right everyone’s like okay more points good for the game in baseball it’s like well you can’t make the balls easier to hit because Babe Ruth you know like what do those what do all those numbers that I grew up
Loving mean if the new numbers are way bigger and I think baseball needs to just Embrace or not they need to reject that and say you know what screw it if the balls are juic the balls are Juiced that these are the new balls now yeah I
I think honestly I do think a new generation of baseball fan is looking at it from that perspective more than the like the numbers or everything cuz the numbers have just been so skewed and and beyond that we need to look at numbers by generation not like baseball is this
One enormous Continuum that you have to judge on like I’m sorry but Babe Ruth wasn’t playing against like black players Dominican players Venezuelan players the the 60 you know the 60 home runs the 61 home runs that were hit back in the the 30s with Ruth uh or the 20s
With Ruth and in the 60s with gar like completely different yeah it was just a different game entirely bab was going against guys who work day jobs in the off season who threw 85 right if you had Babe Ruth playing baseball today right now he would stink now you could
Give no it’s true you could give him a you could give him a year to train right and I think the you could give him new equipment so he’s not swinging like a three- pound bat up there yeah and I think if you gave bab Bruth this guy
With immense physical Talent the ability to adjust then he would be a really good baseball player but if you took 1927 Babe Ruth and dropped him into the big leagues today he’d be down in Triple A yeah he was eating like 14 hot dogs a day and drinking a pine of whiskey every
Night real man’s man that’s when that’s sounds like an awesome life yeah so wait so so off of that Jeff I was curious because you’re you’re Our Generation you’re we’re all similar age and you have entered you know your career’s been incredible entering into this game and
The way it’s covered by older guys and some people who are a little cogny you had a famous you you you boycotted your Hall of Fame vote one year is that correct did I still have not voted I still have not voted for the Hall of
Fame it’s been like five or six years now I love that so what has the push back been by guys that you see in the Press Box and some of these older guys who are added that you know steroids we should just pretend it didn’t happen
It’s like we we we’re we’re with you and that no it happened it actually Saved Baseball let’s stop pretending that it didn’t happen um have has it been weird or awkward for you in those moments where it’s like you’re kind of a new generation and speaking for a new fan
Base guys our age going against some guys who are like no we have to keep baseball sacred which is so stupid I I you know I think I was really lucky cuz I started doing this when I was 23 years old like I you know I I got hired at the
Kansas City Star to be the national baseball writer because another guy turned the job down because he wanted an extra week of vacation that they wouldn’t give to him and uh I was single and I didn’t make much money and my editor at the time knew that he could
Kick my ass and make me work all the time and I wouldn’t say anything so that’s how I got started and I think because I’ve been doing this for 21 Seasons now um you know the older guys in the Press Box it’s like I’m a veteran
At this point like I’ve been doing this for a while so there’s not a whole lot of push back I think there’s like there’s there’s mutual respect like when you do anything for for 20 years like it it’s tough to stick around in any job
For that long at this point so I think I think they respect my opinion because not just the tenure but because there’s logic behind it right I I found the way that the Hall of Fame handled steroid users to be appalling and I found it that way
Because it was rooted in this this houseon notion of what baseball is baseball is Green Grass and baseball is a a hot dog at the Ballpark and sitting there with your arm around your kid going hey old pal we’re gonna have a good day at the Ballpark
No baseball and the Hall of Fame especially is not that the Hall of Fame is a museum that should celebrate the good bad and ugly of the sport and if you’re going to honor the best players in the game you can honor them while still acknowledging their misdeeds and
The issues that they had Barry Bonds is the best hitter I have ever seen yep it’s honestly it’s not even close Barry Bonds on account of the accomplishments that he had even before he started using performance-enhancing drugs is a Hall of Famer so are you telling me years at the
End of of a career are going to essentially nullify and erase the incredible things that he did before that it just it didn’t make any sense to me and the the moment where I decided to stop voting and I’ll just say this like it makes me sad that I don’t vote
Because there are some cool things in this job and that time like when I filled out my first Hall of Fame boat I was so proud I was like I’ve done this long enough to earn the privilege to do this and to be part of something that
You know it’s an important thing in baseball history like if you’re a Hall of Famer that that still means something yeah uh so so to not vote um it made me sad but you know Joe Morgan sent out a letter uh through the Hall of Fame and
It was an email it was like a thousand words if I recall correctly essentially saying why players who have used performance-enhancing drugs don’t belong in the Hall of Fame and and you want to talk about like the epitome of moralizing and excluding people who don’t align with what your thoughts are
On what something should be um that that to me is antithetical to a history museum like a history museum is a place that should welcome all even if it is ugly as it gets because we learn from history and and that’s how as human beings we understand the World by
Looking back and seeing what things were like so we can understand how to place them in the present context yeah very well said I mean our our the the short version of what you just said very eloquently is I think I speak for PFT and I uh the steroid era rocked it fun
Did it was [ __ ] awesome hden moon shots it was it was Fant it was fantastic it was it was the last time that baseball was nationally relevant yeah yeah the Maguire Sosa chase that was appointment telis Across America absolutely uh Jeff I had one last question this has been awesome we’re
Definitely goingon to have you back on later on in the season uh so my last question is roback question rhob bac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase qips polos hoodies joggers shorts all at roback.com promo code take my last question uh a personal question
You got your back blown out by a tree I sure did how how so for people who don’t know who don’t follow Baseball Jeff Works constantly he’s always present there was a there was a time was it last summer where you were kind of absent for
A little bit and then you pop back up and you’re like hey guys uh just a heads up a tree fell on me uh I’m working through this but I broke my back what like what how and what and and are you okay I I am okay so thank you for asking
Um okay so I live in like Suburban Kansas City and you know our neighborhood it’s a town called Prairie Village and it looks exactly like it sounds like there are giant oak trees everywhere very bucolic place and in our front yard there’s like a probably 7500
Foot tall oak tree and a huge storm just like blows through town and off of the oak tree tree all of a sudden like you hear a snap and this huge Branch goes down now I’m not that big of an idiot to be outside during a storm so I’m like
Looking through my front window like holy [ __ ] that like thank God I wasn’t out there but a piece of this this branch which was really like the size of a normal tree uh landed on my neighbor’s truck and so God I’m gonna sell my wife out here I
Feel terrible but um so our power is out and my first instinct is not to go and help the neighbor it’s to go and find an internet connection so I can book a hotel that night because I didn’t want to sleep in the know the middle of
Summer in Kansas City when it’s it’s hot as [ __ ] in my house so uh my next door neighbor somehow still has an internet connection I go over there and and my wife says to me she’s like uh Hey lazy [ __ ] uh come out and help with the
Neighbors like fine fine fine fine so I go outside and uh my nextd door neighbor has a chainsaw and and let me tell you um there’s been this Axiom that I’ve heard throughout my entire life and uh it’s that Jews don’t do yard work and and there’s a reason that we shouldn’t
Do yard work it’s because we don’t understand what happens when chainsaws are being used right my neighbor cuts a branch and uh all of a sudden this you know this limb that is about 25 ft up in the air um it starts to roll I I didn’t
Know what a rolling tree meant because you know I don’t don’t do yard work uh but by the time I realized that this tree was falling and it was about to hit me uh I turned around and tried to run uh but again uh 43 uh Jewish not the
Most athletic guy in the world uh I could not get out of the way in time and by the time it was all said and done I was pinned to the ground underneath this enormous tree uh and had broken the uh L1 vertebrae in my back and I knew
Like I stood up and it was pure adrenaline yeah like I didn’t realize at the time that I was a foot away from being paralyzed I was you know 18 inches away from it hitting my head and killing me um I got very very lucky and had had
Really good Medical Care uh and that night um I got to thank the doctor because he introduced me to ketamine and let me tell you my medical grade ketamine it was it was it was that that night that I broke my back I was sitting in the hospital the doctor gave me
Ketamine I ordered uh Taco Bell to be delivered to the hospital at 3:00 a.m. nice and I watched wrestling and uh it was one of the best nights of My Life Sounds God that’s a wild story I’m glad that you’re okay now but it’s at the
Time when it’s like oh a tree fell on Jeff everybody was like what yeah huh that doesn’t make any sense at all uh but Jeff I have one last last question for you I did a little research on you I want to give you the opportunity to
Explain this um I Heard a story that you had a really excellent senior prank when you were in high school yo how did you hear about that one I I I Got Dirt On You Jeff I Got Dirt on you dog clearly this is like some nard War
Stuff right here um have you seen it by the way have I seen the senior prank oh yeah it’s on the internet no no I I haven’t seen it so oh it it most certainly like is out there if you find it like this is going to sort of tie
Together a couple stories um so where does it start somebody in my journalism class senior year I don’t remember if it was me or a friend but we thought hey wouldn’t it be hilarious to bring a stripper to school and the answer is actually yes it would
Be um and and so as senior year is winding down the the beauty of Journalism class is that we were allowed to go down to the Teachers Lounge and use the phone there to make calls for stories and so I went down to the Teachers Lounge and Ed the phone to call
Up um local establishments and see if if there was a lady who might be willing to come to a school and and in fact there was and uh I uh I had arranged so it was our principal he was a he was a like new principal that year and I had arranged
For him to sit in like the senior Commons area where all the seniors eat at the school like the the nerdy kids that’s said Mr sty it’s your first year here we just want to have like have a good time and and sit around with you
And celebrate your first year and and so it was like it was everyone was involved in this from like the Nerds to the football players everyone in between and the plan was for uh the stripper to come in dress like a teacher and go up to him
And say Mr Styer um I’m looking for the anatomy room and he would say we don’t have an anatomy room and then she would say uh well I’m the anatomy substitute and he would say we don’t have an anatomy class and then she’d say well I
Guess I should give you one then and then like I would hit the music and the whole thing would start so uh go to the back of the school um sneak her in the problem was this was before like venmo or anything like that
And and before I had any money so I had to go around like soliciting donations from people you know people were given like a dollar or two at the time to get the fund pay for this to go on well when you tell a lot of people that a stripper
Might be coming to school um they tend to tell other people and so word had circulated around uh and and the whole like this is like a 1500 kids school in Suburban Cleveland I would say like almost half the school was in the area just looking for it and a bunch of
Teachers were around too and they were they were trying to nullify this as as best they could um thankfully uh some football players I think like started a fight as a diversion like it wasn’t a real fight but it was to get all the teachers off the scent and I was able to
Sneak her back into the commons well she walks up to the principal immediately he knows like immediately he knows exactly who it is grabs her by the wrist takes her over like toward the weight room and into the gym and a mass of people start rushing over it’s like I’m not going to
Say it’s a riot because it’s like suburb in Cleveland a bunch of white kids going over there but it was a it was like a it was like a Woodstock 99 Ry yeah yeah and and and so they end up going over uh they bring her out uh three cop cars
Pull up um yeah like this was a deal I I ran to r that would be great I ran to the bathroom I had a list of everybody who had given me money and so I needed to get rid of the evidence so like I burn the list in the bathroom
And and that day I am uh I I’m worried because we’re supposed to pick up our caps and gowns after and I’m wondering if word is going to get back to the principle by the point at which I’m supposed to pick up my cap and gown that
I was the instigator behind uh the the stripper Kur fuffle and uh I grab my cap and gown after I tell him my name and I have I was like I used bolted out to my car CU I knew if I had that cap and gown
And and as I’m like the the Cuda out of this whole thing uh I’m I’m walking across the stage and I go up and I shake the principal’s hand and he leans in and says I owe you one and you can see on the video that my parents have like I
Have this big smile on my face and uh I feel really good about that and uh do not regret it one bit you know you know who you know who deserves credit my mom and here’s why that morning she comes down and is going to work and sees this
Enormous stash of cash just sitting on the table and she’s like what’s that for I was like well we’re doing a prank and we’re gonna bring a stripper to school and she says are you sure that’s a good idea and and the answer of course is yes
Yeah and you know what she let me do it yeah that rocks let she let me do it rather than like if my kid tried to pull that these days I’d be like no [ __ ] way you [ __ ] but my mom was willing to let me do completely stupid
Things and all of this is memorialized in a camcorder video that was taken and uploaded onto YouTube It’s have you have you seen those videos on Tik toks like school back in the 90s were so cool yeah it’s that it’s that video actually wow and and that also
Includes uh the aftermath of the stripper being taken away and all the kids getting pissed off about it I’m going to have to watch this video that sounds awesome it also sounds like your principal recognized the stripper yeah and was like no not not you and that’s
Why you didn’t get in trouble his name like oh man I didn’t know this was your job that’s greatst why are you here oh man well Jeff this has been awesome man like I said we’ve wanted to have you on for a while and and I’m happy we did it and we’ll definitely
Have you back talk more baseball I look forward to it and uh I apologize for my rambling uh stories there we we interviewed Bill Walton no one Rambles so when you have that as the bar we can handle it all thanks so much Jeff appreciate you guys having me thanks
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FAQs by the way I had a question just popped in my head um how much money do you think liver King spending on Twitter ads a ton infinite everywhere it’s crazy man [ __ ] and bio it’s nuts I just can’t get away from him he might or it’s
Either that or he’s the only person that actually is paying money to advertise that also could be it yeah he’s everywhere now yeah well he admitted to using steroids said that he would stop using steroids and now he’s definitely not using steroids right definitely not that was the funniest apology ever when
He was like I’ve let my fans down I’ve let the primals down there’s a ton of people who still follow what he’s doing right I’m sure yeah there’s I mean the world future Congressman a lot of Billy Billy footballs yeah yeah okay hey PMT since the news studio is completed in
Chicago are we going to see The Return of Larry the gambling goldfish would love to see this tradition brought back to honor the legendary fish that came before thanks I would there’s one legendary fish yeah what do you mean six were kind of Duds yeah the one that you have on your thigh
Is I I still can’t get over the fact that you got the dead goldfish’s body tattooed on your thigh yeah and I can’t believe you kept it for a you would have brought it up every show oh yeah yes I actually if anyone knows any tattoo
Removal places in Chicago uh I got to finish it out before the summer yeah we might bring Larry back Larry was a legend I I don’t the reason why we haven’t done them recently is cuz it’s hard to recreate the magic that we had with that one special fish also keeping
A goldfish alive is very difficult for us mhm and people were getting mad yeah whenever a goldfish died but yeah I would if we could have someone someone has to be in charge of Larry and we have to have him living in a place that we could easily put a
Camera up to and PFT and I could just stand there and be like here’s this week’s picks I’m in what nah what it’s dumb it’s it’s it’s animal abuse it wouldn’t make sense it’s not even realistic what were you GNA say say it lck what if we could put him in
The lottery ball machine somehow oh fill the fill the machine up with water but then like every day he would just get yeah I feel like he wouldn’t survive one of those that thing go but imagine if he got selected you know what that you’re
Right it is sick I know I I didn’t say it uh but yeah I I was just looking at I was like imagine his guts would splatter all over kind of rock here’s here’s here’s what I’m going to say to to the awls I my pledge to you is I am going to
Uh ask Paige who runs our office who’s incredible if she could get a goldfish and keep it alive and if she says yes then maybe we’ll bring it back memes what do you got memes what about a gambling Turtle oh I would be in for a gambling tur but that would take but
That also would take forever for him to do the pick it be that that would be very funny done a turtle race it’s sick yeah Turtle race how I became a gambler was it a rubber duck no it was Turtle race in Key West Florida won 100 bucks
Was 12 years old if a goldfish dies it’s like okay it’s a goldfish like if a t a turtle died on our watch Like Turtles never dude you is predates you Max like people were very mad about the Goldfish dying but could you imagine we had a lot
Of goldfish people forget my sister the only time she ever visited the office she found dead Larry and then they got mad that I flushed it down a toilet that’s what you’re supposed to do with a gold yeah that’s exactly we should if you flush Turtle down a first it’s going
To turn into a ninja we kept the second one in the freezer for six months we should actually we should get a turtle I like the way that you’re thinking memes I think this is a good idea because his picks would be very funny we would just
Set up a camera and and go live with it and be like okay we’ll just wait till he makes his pick he could actually wow it just never worked in the third off we got one hold we had Billy take care of it it was just but a turtle what if we
Got a turtle and on on the when we take the Thursday shows we just have for like 20 minutes or whatever it is a picture and a picture of him just doing the pick right here yeah so while we’re doing the picks he’s just doing his pick I like
That a lot and if I like that a lot and if he dips five games below 500 we eat him yep I think turn them into soup we crack his shell I think Turtles are so much more difficult to to keep alive than gold all right so what we need is
We need someone who has a turtle I’ll take care of the turtle okay memes taking care of the turtle all right memes taking care of the turtle so memes what you should what we really should do is the turtle shouldn’t live in the office it should just come in on Thursdays for his
Pit what this is me this next question all right but so so I like this so if we could set up like how funny would it be if we’re doing our picks and then people who are because shout out everyone who watches the show now I love that we have
So many people watching the show but if you had a turtle just slowly at in the picture in a picture while we’re talking about the games the turtle’s making picks yeah what about a mini horse no uh it’s too much Pon it’s too much work talk about this before what me you I
Feel like our kid just asked us if we get a mini horse I said down and you said no ask your father yeah uh we’re down anything that I don’t have to worry about I have too many I have too many things I have three kids a dog a Jerry a
RICO a [ __ ] Brandon I have a lot of things what if we get a snake a poisonous snake I hate snakes I hate snakes actually if we got a snake I’d kill you that that means your brain’s gone like the most poisonous snake possible okay maybe then yeah no
Speaking of animals turtles in though memes yeah get your turtle what are we going to name it this I’m in for the there’re forcing memes to get a turtle what should we name the turtle football football is a good name football the turtle I feel like if it’s me could be
Memes as Turtle it’s something with an M so like memes and oh yeah do we want to limit it to just football picks Max yeah we could well we could test him out in other picks in other sports he might Max yeah name him Max no football football
Footb him Max football Max no maybe Max cuz then we’ll have to always be like Max or are we talking about Max Turtle because you’re gonna like Max [ __ ] his P You’re goingon to be mean to this Turtle if he’s bad at pics and it’s just gonna exactly Max pooped himself we talking
About Max a turtle or Max a human oh we just got the ratings oh tell me did I like tweet shefer tweeted it that’s what you know did the most watch NCAA play women’s basketball game ever 12.3 okay didn’t beat the mens what was the men’s 15 for NC State
Duke decent question that doesn’t matter though that was on CBS yeah that’s true that’s huge yeah well it last year was like N9 million so yeah that’s a huge jump shout out to the women and now I feel comfortable saying that was a great watch I liked it do you feel comfortable
Uh I thought it was good but I liked it 8% less than the NC State Duke game I would have liked it a little more yeah if other people had watched it yeah what’s the deal with the thing in front of Hank oh yeah so you should know you
Should know we actually had a uh a sponsor come in uh sales person was walking them giving them the tour to the office and he saw that thing and was like what the [ __ ] is that and I had to explain to him what it was that’s the
Octopus that we had when we did one episode of barstol Van talk and so it’s an octopus it’s a dead octopus inside from alahh it’s funnier when you don’t even explain it CU we had uh Alex cruso came into the office today he’s going to be great interview with him coming
Friday um he was like what is that I said is it’s an octopus he’s like he just looked at me like was you going to say anything else like no it’s an octopus yeah we can probably move it somewhere else we just it we found it
Yeah in a box and I was like oh the octopus we’ll put in the studio but we just haven’t really found a better place we should drink it I thought about that earlier that’s from Malahide though so probably die probably we’re old probably die or would I think you would
Die if you drank all that you would die like Ed CO’s probably going to resign or he is going to resign no I’d say you would die okay a sip would be fine how much for mahide mahide can you drink hey PMT gang kind of serious
Question is pug okay he’s been at the vet for what seems like weeks and are awl are genuinely concerned about his wellbeing if you guys have to make this decision to put him down we understand we as award-winning listeners have to know right now if he’s going to pull
Through or not thank you too early not by the way two tablespoons of fide would kill you yeah that that would kill all so we have to have one yeah you just get a wiked buzz uh Pug’s fine he uh he was dealing with an infal yeah oh he is yeah
I just got into the garbage I’m doing okay he ate a chicken bone and you got to keep those or did you eat a chicken bone or was it ice breaker’s gum both both yeah he uh pug lost a lot of weight though from his ailment he’s looking
Good he’s looking lean and and we just put a bench press next to it behind right behind his desk and do we know what’s wrong with you pug oh yeah garbage I’m the vet gave me medicine doing better did pug do you have all
Your shots uh I did not now I do okay pug how you how you feeling today doing good we’re doing better pug pug uh all right last one fun one hey PMT gang was there ever a point where one of you big cat and PFT mostly thought about quitting SL leaving the
Show not no not really no I don’t think it’s ever happened closest is no we were like upset after Barcelo van talk but I don’t I don’t think we yeah it was never anything that was like imminent to happen and with contract stuff it’s just something that you have to go through
Every couple years and then you just come back because you didn’t want to leave yeah I don’t think I’m trying to think I mean I’ve I’m I don’t think I’ve even been close to being a free agent at barcol so that that part has never been a issue but
Yeah after barcel van talk we were upset but I don’t think we ever I think after the JMU Wisconsin game no that was I wanted to kick Hank yeah yeah bat wanted to just get away from Hank yeah that’s all um no I don’t Hank how many times
Have you wanted to quit the show no one suggested taking myself off back in the day did and we said no no no no no yeah that was crazy he wanted to be corporate Hank no no no no I was just like I was editing the show and I hated listening
To myself and I was you know this is before Billy before Max before anyone so I was the one that was catching all of the like if you’re not big cat or PFT we [ __ ] hate you so I was getting my head uh and I was like if you guys want
To you know I won’t take offense that’s I think that’s what I said I was like I’m not you know I I get it you could probably put someone in that’s more entertaining that people like better like I won’t take offense and we said [ __ ] no yeah it was the fastest [ __ ] no
Ever aren’t you glad that we did that very glad are you you’re welcome yeah sure yeah okay we basically PF and I actually met about it and we’re like we got to wait till the Patriots are bad could have you we got to wait this out
Just a few I think that was I think that was after this was like 2017 yeah it was before the sixth Super Bowl so we had to wait it out a little bit Han are you a little bit nervous about the fifth Super Bowl no I’m it was after the fifth
Before the sixth right and we were like we got to wait it out they’re going to be bad and then they want another one you should be nervous about the Celtics though I’m excited no Brook Kea always said if you if there’s nerves to me that
I think that’s excitement so like I am nervous but I’m excited if that makes sense pressure is a privilege yes but like I’m not nervous I’m excited you’re not even you’re not thinking about what happens if the Celtics lose in the playoffs no you can’t that’s a loser
Mentality you’re a [ __ ] loser so that’s why you’re that but like I’m not thinking like that I’m excited uh we we’ve we’ve worked so hard to get to this point and now it’s our time to shine Hank I have more Stanley Cups and World Series than you since we started doing the
Show I think we’re tied in World Series yeah you’re tied in World Series yeah but more Stanley Cups than you okay sick you root for the Cowboys not anymore you don’t have Max to pick on though well maybe you will one of you guys yeah and be’s back this year this
Year I mean this week so that will Max are you g to get your hopes up oh what if what if you beat them though 81 I know Hank you’d have to shave your beard you’d have to shave your beard say yes right now if if if the Sixers beat if or
The Bulls beat 8-1 I don’t think the bull in a series in a series yeah and if we sweep no no yes no I’m not doing it without Stakes you guys you already said yes you already said yes you already said yes you say yes to the
Bulls I say yes to the Fine the Bulls are probably not going to make I’m all tangled up over here all right numbers 40 if I get this you have to shave your beard eight fine if I get this you have to shave yours no huh 18 not so tough now buddy three
No you’re the one that just does these bet in no Stakes well 99 p i mean 20 there’s no way that this you didn’t guys do you guys didn’t do a [ __ ] bet for Jamie Wisconsin shut up I should actually say that every time we ever do
A bet ever when you’re like do a bet to a bet to a bet you guys both of your alums played a game you’re like we don’t care the game already means so much did you come I had a [ __ ] meltdown it did mean so much did you come up with a bet
We tried to you guys were like no no we’re not doing a bet I don’t think you came up with a betool [ __ ] Tangled over here God damn it let’s name the turle damn it these wires all right what let’s name the turtle Tony Tony the Turtle T no what about Max
What about football football’s not a bad football’s a pretty good one sports what about Just Sports what about what about sport Sports the turtle sport what about Mr pear I like it done Mr pear mrar mrar Mr yeah we’ll feed him P pears he’ll have to he’ll have to go get the pair
For the the pick what about Mr yes Mr peir Mr PA Mr pair Mr cream no it’s Mr pear Mr pear and we’ll just yeah we we’ll I bet you we can get someone I I bet you we can get like the uh food coloring stamps and we can stamp the
Slices of pears with the different uh logos yeah and that will be that will be how he picks his games which pair Mr pair and we should never discipline him never or we should really discipline Mr P whoa that sounded kind of like torture no just be like strict parents
That no that sounds like you want to eat them that’s a Philly coming out memes I I’m not saying do don’t do this memes but CU Turtles I guess their shell is like their skin like it can be hurt if you pierce their skin but it would be
Cool if you put a handle on them yeah you just pick them up I won’t do that don’t do that though or if you sew laces into the back of him like a football oh Mr peir no Mr pear deserves better I [ __ ] love Mr pear it when Mr pear
Dies I’m going be very sad when Mr pear misbehaves I’m just gonna be like Mr pear Mr Mr oh Mr pear tummy tax Mr pear you need to fix the door on the spaceship before you launch of it we’re all GNA kiss Mr pear and get weird turtle diseases uh all right
Numbers Mr Pear’s going to rock I mean that’s we’re going to sell some shirts you got to get this Turtle like ASAP Mr bear can you get this turtle like soon so we can have him start picking [ __ ] yeah just go to Tin Lizzy yeah I got to
Hit up my turtle guy yeah any Turtle guys out there let us know let us know I also need to find a dentist in Chicago I’ve been meaning to say what is this this a [ __ ] Craigslist right now come on Max figure it out you Heck if you do
Temporary tattoo removals let me know you have an El Camino that you’re looking to sell all right numbers 40 three 77 eight 18 99 P actually you say so 20 21 first time kind went off the rails 91 see everyone Friday Alex cuso in studio love you guys
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The players having patches on different sleeves so it faces the camera when batting depending on they bat left or right handed, big cat
Passan mentions one of the few MLB players PFT knows
PFT: "Yup, mhmm"
the turtle can be max delenny
Didn't expect Passan to be talking about Ketamine but i'm here for it
Jett is the man!
Did anyone find the prank video?
Agreed with Jeff on the need for a weight room and “arm training” for pitchers (whatever that is). However, javelin training is a lot more applicable to training a pitcher than Jeff may think. Weighted balls were gimmicky until everyone used them, and this could easily be the “new thing”
Is this guy Jeff Passan related to John Mulaney?
Why does Jeff have Vaseline on his camera?
Jeff Passan looks and sounds like if Klemmer went through puberty and ate a cheeseburger.
I'll pass on taking this dweebs takes on baseball as anything I should take seriously. A real dorks dork, these types ruin sports
Mr.pear is gonna rock
“…you called me a moron…”
“Yeah!”
😂
1:48:27 why is the graphic talking about "KFC Radio" on the ad?
Idk if women’s basketball has arrived yet, or if it’s just there’s a superstar there right now so people are watching. The only person, recently, that popularized a sport by themselves to relevance is Tiger. Idk if Clark is that box office. Either way she’s nuts to watch, and for my daughter’s sake I hope people do start watching women’s ball. Seems farfetched though.
They should glue a piece of football on Mr. Pear's shell so he has laces on his back.
Passan was great. Assumed he was a massive big J dork (like Jake) so the senior prank was a twist I was not expecting
Jeff passan king of KC
What is in the jar?
The turtle has to be called “PMT = pardon my turtle”
As crappy as the ownership is, it's more than just him. It's the government. It's the city in general. They don't get enough blame.
Oddly the most ive ever liked Hank is him suggesting they put the new Larry in the lottery machine
Can you guys start showing the clips that youre talking about
No wonder “2 Sodas” Max loved the name“Mr. Pair”
Mr Pear is fucking hilarious. So glad I listened until the end
Anyone able to find Passan's prank video?
I have a turtle, let me know what you need to know.
7:02 as a diehard day 1 methstreams user, hank beat me to it by about 5 seconds