Kurt Benkert Shares His Experience Of Playing With Aaron Rodgers

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Welcome to the official Jets podcast Eric Allen here at One jets Drive joined by a special guest today Kurt Ben Curt former NFL quarterback who is a content creator a gamer a father a husband and you’re coming in today you’re talking to us from Hawai which actually I think

It’s 5 o’clock in the morning there it’s 5 o’clock we just got in yesterday I don’t want to want to sound like a superhero so we’re still on on Central time yeah it’s pretty early listen I’ll tell you what how much are you enjoying things um post NFL career because you

Are so busy right now yeah I I love it um it’s been fun to be able to transition the way I have I do miss playing and I still miss like being in the locker room and stuff but um I’ve been super fortunate that things have

Played out the way they have been and that a few different things have taken off so can you talk about some of those things that have taken off for you yeah yeah so I um I do work with sleeper the fantasy football app where I do just analysis breakdowns um we launched a

Show called pocket presents that I do every week and then we do quarterback breakdowns with that in season and out of season um and that’s with sleeper and then I do stuff uh on my own personal YouTube Just Kurt Ben Kurt YouTube where I teach football through Madden and

That’s probably been like the the biggest uh I would say fulfill the most fulfilling one after leaving because I’m still attached to the game just in a way that I want to be and I’m kind of scaling you know sharing what I know to millions of people so it’s been pretty

Cool to dive into those two things when did that idea originate Kurt as far as teaching football via Madden and also as a guy not like many who played Madden you played in the National Football League what helps you in terms of your experience in the league as far as

Taking that and then not only playing the game but teaching it to others yeah so I’ll start with the first one it kind of came from my background in gaming so all I would say from my second year in the NFL to the end I’ve been signed to a

Pro team for gaming but I was typically competing in like fortnite Call of Duty and Halo um so a lot of firstperson shooter games and then with the extra time away from football this first time around I was like man let me see like how Madden would go how the views would

Be how people would like it um and I started just basically Tony rooing my games of Madden saying things that were going to happen before they did and what I’m looking at and people just gravitated towards it so that then led me to Kickstart my YouTube and I hired

An editor and then we got him on fulltime after a few months of like testing it out and now we’re just scaling that and um creating new series somewhere I’m like taking myself and redoing my career somewhere I’m just teaching like the best plays and how to read defenses and everything like that

So it um it came from a blend of my background in gaming and then also seeing master classes of other you know businesses I’m like I think I can do this on YouTube but in a more interactive way okay so on men now which quarterback do you like operating with

The best and which system do you like the best yeah so I play with Josh Allen a lot because I think you need to have a good guy that can move around uh in Madden especially um I play with Aaron because of his quick release in the game

Um I try to like you can just do things with that you can’t with other guys and then momes has something called hot route Master which is kind of cheating if you’re if you know football because then you can just you get like an extra eight routes that you can audible

Receivers to so I basically have everything at my disposal when I’m playing with him so those three are kind of the the blend and then I actually use the Pittsburgh Steelers Playbook um when I play why Pittsburgh they have a really good empty package that has a good pre-

Snap alignment with spacing of the receivers so it just when you get into empty it makes the defense declare um typically in Madden especially and so I get to basically exploit like quick out routes pylon routes and just stuff that it gets into spacing a little bit different than all of these other

Playbooks do did you like playing empty yourself as far as yeah tell me about it so some coaches philosophies when you’re getting Blitz a lot is to bring more protection in block it up and have like three man routes and mine is the opposite like I want to know where I’m

Getting hot from and throw off of that and and I’d rather I’m like a creative player so when I I play in real life I try to scramble make plays on my feet and I think when you have seven people blocking and seven or eight people

Blitzing it’s a lot of people in the box that you can’t really navigate through as a Scrambler so I’d rather have five of my guys blocking with more space and be able to scramble and create plays all right you’re a fascinating dude and your content is really engaging um but a lot

Of jets fans are probably listening right now or watching like Kurt bankert what’s the connection here well let’s go 2021 the summer 2021 when you were a packer and Aaron Rogers was the quarterback I remember actually watching you take snaps uh there because the Jets practice with the

Packers for a week um let’s go all the way back even before summer though when the Packers signed you what was your first interaction with Aaron um so he wasn’t there that summer for OTAs and that’s actually the reason why I got signed it was me Jordan love

And Blake Bortles and Aaron was having contract talks and so when I got signed I was like okay I’m just going to be a camp arm but I’m going to show them what I can do and hopefully find a way to stick around and then Aaron got back got

His deal done and they actually ended up cutting Blake and kept me throughout the whole season um so they must have liked what they saw enough in OTAs that could keep me around and then my first time actually meeting him um it’s a good story I’m going in for uh what was it

Not training yeah for training camp and go to the bathroom go to take a pee and he’s walking up next to me to the urinal right next to me that’s my first time meeting him and so he knew like my face from seeing it online and I obviously

Knew who he was he’d been like my childhood favorite player and so I just look over as we’re both peeing like hey I’m the new quarterback nice to meet you I didn’t expect to meet you this way but glad to be here whatever so it was just

A funny moment and if you know his personality obviously enjoy stuff like that so did you did you make eye contact when you were saying what up eye contact yeah this level the whole time yes um and then how did your relationship developed from there because you have unique experiences

Because it it seems like in a short time you guys grew pretty close yeah um I think it grew so fast because he appreciated that it wasn’t just 247 football for me and I have like balance in life and like things outside of football I love football obviously I’m

Obsessed with what do but I do know how to disconnect and I think he’s had experience with guys probably that don’t necessarily know how to do that and that’s who he is as a person too like he gets his work done he’s always prepared always ready obviously the top of the

Game but he has things outside of football that he’s interested in so he doesn’t just want to talk about it all the time um and from the very beginning I wasn’t just like trying to you know ask all these football questions and learn from him all the time so we had

Common interests outside of football things that I was into he knew that I was into gaming at the time time and signed to a pro team so like he loved that he used to play Halo back in the day so that was like our first kind of

Connection um and then after that you know experiences happen the season happens Media stuff happens um and he loved that I was not afraid to speak my mind in the media even though I was a practice squad quarterback at the time um that’s just kind of how I’ve always

Been so uh he really appreciated that and I there was like a like a the thing with the covid stuff with the immunization and all of that that went down and I publicly kind of put my neck out there for him and he really appreciated that but it was just

He was getting dragged that year like undeservingly so it just yeah we we grew through a bunch of different experiences in one year so how good of a Halo player was Aaron and what other games did you play uh alongside him did did you play

Mad with Aaron at all we never we never played together we talked about it though he uh he loved talking about it he would see the clips that I’d be posting um and at that time Halo infinite had just came out so it was just uh there’s a lot of like stuff on

The timeline about that game um but he just he loved that I was into things outside of football and growing a business outside of football while I was playing um so he he obviously thought that was decent decently cool in his world so what what I what would you uh

Said if I told you way back when that Rogers was actually going to end up with the Jets back in 21 man um I would have first asked what’s the connection and how did it get get there because I don’t think he does anything without purpose um and so to

Know that he was going to go and hackit was going to go and he was going to get some of his guys then I would have thought like yeah there’s definitely a chance there um I would have been I was kind of shocked though with obviously

How they moved on in Green Bay from him but timing wise um that’s just kind of how Green Bay operates so yeah I was less shocked about the Green Bay moving on I would have been decently like shocked about where he ended up but I think it all makes sense

Did you know when you’re in that situation that hey not only obviously Rogers is a future Hall of Famer but Jordan love this guy’s gonna be pretty good himself yeah I actually so from the beginning with Jordan I always thought that he had like a unique way of playing

And like a different skill set and that it wasn’t really fair for him to have to try to emulate Aaron every dayn practice or try to like kind of follow in his favorite plays and stuff so I was just hoping that at some point this year for

Jordan he would have the chance to have the offense be more his own have plays be catered more towards him like the style of things um and I think that changed around like somewhere between week six to eight but I knew he had he’s a talented passer he just is a little

Bit unorthodox and how he gets it done um and he’s a baller like he can he makes plays all over the field gives his guys chances typically knows when to take the risks when not to um and for it being his first full year um it’s been

Cool to see like his progression because he was not not who he is today in year one two three like it’s taken time to get there um which he would say the same thing and Kurt that’s something you continue to preach out there to folks on social media and that’s not a platform

Uh social media platforms are often not about patience but you’re saying Hey listen a lot of times it takes quarterbacks time necessary time to develop yeah well and I think it’s just it’s you’re playing people don’t understand that college to the NFL is it’s like two different games it’s it’s

Not even like you’re playing football that just slowly ramps up it’s a completely different game that you’re learning it’s in college it’s about exploiting space get the the ball in the hands of people that have speed a lot of bubbles the hashes make such a big difference that people don’t understand

Like the wide side of the field in college is a lot wider than the wide side of the field in the NFL and that changes play calling splits like it changes everything um and so in the NFL you have to really learn as a quarterback one protections matter

That’s like number one as a quarterback knowing where you’re protected knowing what problems you have and what answers you have on any given play and in college at least in my scheme and a lot of these other schemes that I’m watching it’s full slide a running back’s

Blocking a dend and you have to get the ball out quick and quick game or it is a tight end and a running back responsible for a DN and the line is still full sliding a lot of teams use that full slide where in the NFL you would only

Ever use that when you’re getting zero Blitz and so that was my first like light bulb that went off like wait a minute this is a different game of chess than I was ever playing um yes we can all throw the ball we can all run we can

All do these things but like how you get to those point the point of like having successful plays time and time again in situational football those things were never preached in college at least where I was it was just get the ball to your guys in space read the triangles in zone

And take man beaters if you got him and that’s it was simple it was just as simple as that um and so I just think that stuff takes some guys longer than others and some guys are more talented but aren’t given the time to get to that point where it’s second nature and

That’s why you see guys in year 10 12 14 15 start to actually like hit this consistent Rhythm um that a lot of guys don’t get the chance to get to yeah it’s interesting you were just tweeting about former Jets quarterback Gino Smith uh his development late in his career as

Far as approaching the chess board what does Rogers bring to the table from a mental standpoint yeah as a guy who’s 40 years old he’s going to be heading into year 41 W here in the National Football League I think that are you and is this in regards to like other quarterbacks in

The room or just what he has to the table what he I I guess I would say Kurt like what he brings out there just in the Huddle and then go into the line of scrimmage itself yeah so there’s not a look that he has not seen and I think

That that helps a lot because one I would say when you’re preparing for teams one you have to be prepared for your own game plan first and then you have certain plays especially in a whisker system that are very defense dependent um that you have to watch more

For More film for when you’ve been in it that long your film study I would imagine go gets a little bit slighter a little bit like not as long because you’re you’re knowing exactly what you’re looking for you’re not just watching the games just to watch them

And feel it out like you know exactly what you’re looking for you’re looking for the third down tape the Red Zone tape the specific situations on Third and you know 3 to six then 8 to 10 plus um you’re breaking the game down specifically so for him he’s just trying

To see okay in this situation what are they going to do got it it’s in my tool bag I know that that’s what I’m to expect this week where with younger guys I feel like there’s so much time spent watching all the film possible that you

Actually slow down the game or you make the game harder to play because you’re slowing down your processing because there’s so much information overload where in a West Coast system you really just need to know your stuff know the few things that they’re going to do and

Then know the matchups and the players that you’re trying to pickart so um for him it’s that processing that I just think he’s not wasting as much time on the things that don’t matter when he’s preparing um and then on top of that you have a guy that situationally has been

In every situation possible in a game that you can bring those guys in the Huddle around and say look this is what we’re to expect if it’s third and you know three hey we’re going to probably get heavy man here expect Blitz because this is this coordinator’s tree like he

He says stuff like that in the meeting room without even having to watch the film because he knows who these guys are and he know knows the names of all the refs like down to that point and so when you have that type of guy leading the way there’s just these hidden like

Attributes that level up everybody else in the team that um Everybody Plays better when you have a guy like that what’s the quarterback room like with him in there we saw a glimpse of that dur Hard Knocks we got one Jets drive here uh the Jets in-house documentary

Team but for a guy lived it and breathed it every day yeah yeah so it’s he has such a good ability to flip the switch to like when it’s time to get done sorry get stuff done get stuff done pod yeah it’s podcast when it’s time to get

Stuff done you get it done and then also when it’s time to like be one of the boys you can be one of the boys and he does such a good job of navigating that line and going back and forth between that that I think it just there’s like a

Calmness to when when he’s around and obviously healthy and an asset to the team that you just can’t even like quantify that and that’s what we felt like with when we were in Green Bay like didn’t really matter like if we felt like we had a great game plan that week

Or if it was like ah maybe they were a better defense than us like Aaron’s going to lead the way and find a way and navigate it and have to like deviate slightly off course if he has to in a game but I think sometimes with a Young quarterback there’s no deviation you’re

Just going to stick to the game plan and if you guys are going to lose you’re probably going to lose um without like risking your job and so he brings that to the table and the meeting rooms are just like I don’t know he he enjoys having fun there’s mini games and like

Like basketball and darts and all that stuff but then you can also flip the switch and and get to business so for you a guy who can call Aaron his friend when you’re watching September 11th jet spills he goes down on the fourth play what goes through your M man

I almost cried for him because I felt that just like sink in my stomach of what I know he’s kind of went through to get to that point and it wasn’t like sunshine and Rose is to become a jet it was a lot of like Outcast and it was

Like being kicked out and moved on from right like this was his Redemption to why they shouldn’t have moved on so soon and that’s how I felt like this was going to play out this season um and to see it get cut short and one especially

With the way that the roster was with the way the defense was for the Jets this year with the young Talent with Bree with Garrett Wilson like it felt like for the first time he had some of these things that had been missing like the defense for one that he didn’t

Have to be a superhero this year to make things work he could have played his game played efficient played accurate and you guys would have had a good path where things change obviously when that injury happens um and the defense it’s like kind of felt like a wasted good

Defensive year um and so it was just this opportunity that you know he talks about it a lot too like that Year’s team will never be that Year’s team again right so to miss the 2023 preseason with the way that it looked it’s just a missed opportunity to where now okay

2024 what’s the defense going to look like what’s the offense going to look like what’s the rest of the division going to look like are they getting better they getting worse this year just felt like there were a lot of good question marks in the Jets favor had he

Not gotten hurt and next year it’s going to be a little bit harder but you’re gonna have Aaron back speak to that about it being a little bit harder and what do you think he’s facing as far as 2024 is concerned yeah so I look at the division

And I’m looking at one the dolphins look like they’re getting worse in free agency they’ve lost a lot of guys I don’t know what the draft looks like obviously with the amount of picks but um they got to nail their draft to in my opinion get better you’re either you’re

Getting better or worse in the NFL every offseason there’s no in between um I’m looking at the bills and they cleaned house but they cleaned a lot of older players out so who are they going to bring in who are they going to have like you lose some of that veteran leadership

So then I look at it as the beginning of the season is often harder when you have younger team it’s just kind of it goes you look at the Packers last year that was the same case so I’m looking at the bills in the Dolphins like okay they

Still have some of their guys they still have good players you’re going have to handle them but there might be a little bit of an opportunity early in the season before they catch their groove to use some of the veteran leadership and having some of the older guys around

With the Jets to get some of those wins early that are a little bit easier and then I look at the the Patriots and last year was an unfortunate missed opportunity to not be able to take advantage of a bad Patriots team um I think they’re going to get better this

Year they’re going to play a little bit more inspired the roster isn’t where obviously it needs to be to compete with all the other teams in the division consistently but I think they’re going to play more inspired football so they’re not just going to be a walkover

Theme um but I think this year again it looks like it’s a good opportunity I think your guys as team wise like defense should should be better than they were last year um and offense I just think he’s going to play well like I think though his Achilles doesn’t affect

His play style as much as what other guys um had a year to take care of his body on all the other things which is also sometimes a blessing so um I think it’s another really good opportunity for you guys to go and take it and now it’s

What’s the rigor of the season going to look like is there going to be a lot of injuries is it what happens so that’s a really interesting point you just said you don’t think his Achilles is going to impact his play style as much as it would other guys can you elaborate on

That yeah so he’s he’s a Scrambler sorry there’s a truck rolling by he’s a Scrambler but but he doesn’t scramble to run he scrambles to get out of the pocket scrambles to get out of space um he scrambles to get out of space and he doesn’t need that extra burst

Necessarily to change his like to change a game he just needs to evade that first guy and typically I feel like in Achilles yeah you lose some of your burst but he’s got enough juice in the tank to make guys miss and enough savviness to play Within that one by one

Frame that he talks about like the yard byard box that he likes to play in like that prec PR Precision passing game is not going to change might be a little slower on scrambles but he’s still going to get out of the pocket and he’s still

Going to make plays on the run but he just might not see him break off a 20 yard run or whatever it might be but knowing him he’s gonna he’s gonna do it he’s gonna St told you so when he sees this so everybody talks about the importance and continuity along that

Offensive line what do you think about some of the additions the Jets have made in free agency and how can Aaron help those guys as far as protections are concerned you got Tyron Smith eight Time pro bowler a five time uh all proo the two-time first team all

Proo three time second Team all proo coming in a left tackle you got John Simpson at left guard and then Morgan Moses returns at right tackle that on paper is three new starters yeah that’s a stout line and I think it’s a it’s a lot of like those are big dudes um it’s

Not just like they’re agile dudes they’re big dudes they take up a lot of space and I think for air and the way that he plays he’s comfortable with guys being in his lap um he’s comfortable with guys being pushed into him he doesn’t play as well when he’s got

Free rushers so I think those are the types of guys offensive play style wise that like look that’s okay you can get push back and get beat but you’re not just going to get like ripped through and let guys free and I think part of letting guys free which you saw last

Year like Zach just he’s not at the level of what Aaron was in protections and Aaron can take two or three different protections that are talked about in the week and blend them together mid game to get exactly what he wants even if it’s like not talked about

And he has his answer he’s always prepared with his protections it’s what he’s so good at the people I don’t think really talk about enough because of how accurate he is um but he’s really good at taking hits off buying that extra half a second to get the ball out um and

He’s also comfortable with like standing in there and delivering last second so I just think you’re going to see some plays pop up this year that obviously didn’t even have the chance to come to fruition last year just off of protection alone between the b o line

And the rules that he’s going to be applying to them when they’re picking up pass bro problems you mentioned Garrett Wilson and Bree Hall before as sending stars in the National Football League entering year three what else do you think the Jets should do around those

Guys Tyler Concklin is a good tight end I thought he he played very well last year 61 catches as well and his production should be interesting with a guy like Rogers firing the football but what other offensive skill pieces do you think the Jets should be interested in

Here as the offseason progresses yeah um you guys have picked 10 in the first round I believe yes yep yeah I’m the I had one mock that if Brock Bowers Falls I I know like I don’t like taking tight ends top 10 or top I don’t even like

Taking them really in the first round if he can get that of value later but he’s he’s really good like he’s a really good player and I think for someone like Aaron with his play style having an explosive tight end with a good catch radius could be just a lot of really

Easy first downs on third Downs so I look at it from like that perspective um and then I also Al look at like you have adun who if he falls to 10 I mean it’s never you can never go wrong taking a game-changing receiver in my opinion

That early um I don’t know what the defense looks like at this point but I mean I think Aaron’s G his entire career without having a receiver taken top 10 crazy maybe first round yeah like I so to think of it from that perspective what happens if you have a

Garrett Wilson on one side and then on dunesday if he drops or a neighbors if he drops I think it could be pretty cool um you look at Joe burrow and the success that he’s had he has a loaded receiver room with Jamar Chase he had T

Higgins um they had Tyler Boyd like Mixon Aaron can operate at a really high level with guys like that around him and I would like to see maybe one more piece of Firepower veteran quarterbacks we talk about Brady in the past he likes a certain type of receiver yeah it is

Rogers the same way or or like what would the transition transition be for a young guy coming in playing with a guy like Aaron yeah so the first thing is being aware of all of his signals and all of his like oneon-one checks um that’s probably number one there’s there’s

Signals and plays and routes that were not ran this year because Aaron wasn’t there doing it that great example Devonte Adams had a a route in the Red Zone I think it was like week 15 13 14 something like that in 2021 where they just called a route that they had from

Four years prior on a whim on an old signal that they scored a touchdown on because the leverage was not what they had predicted in the film room he was supposed to run a I think a go or something and he ended up running like a delay slant and that’s something that

Was never talked about I mean if we had Ram what was called it would have been stonewalled and so there were no answers so he went and found an answer that they had from years past so to have a guy like that one I think he has that in

Garrett Wilson they’re preparing him to be that guy but you have to be ready for those signals that come up that maybe aren’t in the game plan but you talked about a month ago that is a big adjustment for him to start trusting you and once he has your trust I mean it’s

It’s over so I think for a guy like him he basically is playing Madden out there when he’s playing he’s got the full Playbook available he’s got his full experience available he can audible anything at any time if he wants to um and so the younger guys when you can get

Caught up to that speed and get on that same level um you’ll play earlier and you’ll play better what can you tell us about the Nathaniel hackit Aon Rogers system because we didn’t have the opportunity to see it last year when Rogers goes down um and obviously the

Jets end up playing with four different quarterbacks and they start 13 different offensive line combinations yeah so I would say the best analogy I can use for those two I would say hack it have you ever seen like the uh my daughter’s like three right now and she’s loves these coloring

Books but you have to like draw the lines and then you can color in them like you connected out some color yes my daughter’s four okay so you’re in you’re in the thick of it so I would say Nathaniel Hackett connects the dots draws the lines and makes the that

Stencil Aaron will go color it in within certain a pallet however he wants to where you have other guys like like the guys that you had last year I don’t think we’re coloring it in um and I don’t know if the way that the offense was designed would have really helped

Many other quarterbacks because it was specifically SE for Aaron and so I love hacking to death I think him and Aaron are going to do a great job this year I think that the way that it’s set up for Aaron is not set up to work for other

Guys but it kind of felt like all is in the basket for Aaron this past year so I would say you’re going to know within a like a range of what to expect with Aaron and every game will be a little bit different but hacket man he does

Such a good job of prepping of giving you all the information you need of every look you need all week long what to expect this is why we’re attacking the way we are and even though it may not be the best way to attack it one

Week over another you at least know he has reasoning behind why he’s doing it that way and that’s what he believes in and so with that Aaron has given all of that and then it’s his job to navigate and weave throughout the game going back and forth with the coach to figure out

The best way to navigate that game and I think that’s something that people don’t understand about NFL football is like some guys play like a robot and those guys I don’t think have like deep success throughout the season there’s only one guy and I think it’s pton man

That played like a robot that found a way to have success at a high level for a long time I would say brady somewhat like that but he also lend himself more to being like an artist from time to time especially in situational football Aaron plays the game like a straight up

Artist and so for someone to give him the canvas give them the lines this is what we’re expecting these are the shades and palettes and everything you can use for or using in this drawing this piece of art go do your thing that’s how Aaron operates and that’s how

He’s successful um and I think you see that this year I really do he he’s got an interesting way about himself anybody who’s been with him inside the locker room speaks to that can you talk talk about Aaron and did you always see a chip on his shoulder an inherent chip on

His shoulder and what about his position specifically heading to 2024 where he’s going to turn 41 in December he’s coming off to Achilles and everybody’s going to be counting him out probably more than ever yeah um he is one guy I would not bet against for sure I think he will do

Things just because you said he couldn’t do it to prove a point and I I think that’s what’s made him so successful he’s had that from the beginning before he even got into the NFL when he was in junior college getting into like a division one program like he’s had that

That’s how he’s wired and so he’s wired that way he’s extremely talented he’s only gotten better and he is a master of his game and I think a guy like him he’s not like a Lamar Jackson that needs his legs and like a Russell Wilson that

Needs his legs to operate like he could be pinpoint accurate and delivering with a tight space around him for a long time and I think he could play as long as he wants to um just like Tom Brady I think he could have kept playing I think the

Game you do need to move around a little bit and I think Aaron does that um but I think he’s gonna he’s going to bring all of that together this year and I think the guys in the locker room are going to elevate because of it and someone who

Enjoyed experience with aen so much would you like to see the Jets add a quarterback a rookie quarterback here on day three the draft obviously they signed to Rod Tor an accomplished guy uh who’s had a number of stops in the National Football League this is his seventh organization but you know and

Taylor you have definitely upgraded the uh backup spot would you like the Jets to add a young guy as someone who’s been in that position before yeah yeah I think um and I don’t know like a day three pick like I think a day three pick undrafted guy makes sense for like what

The goals are right now I think if you waste if you waste anything earlier um it’s an opportunity cost that you’re losing on another player that could be a stud especially in such a deep receiver class like there’s going to be guys day two going all day long that can play um

So yeah I do think though like if guy if a guy like Spencer Rattler Falls I could see him benefiting heavily from being around Aaron um I don’t think he will I think he’s getting more kind of trending up a little bit I think it’ll be like an

Early day too but I could see like a young guy with Talent that’s maybe just a little raw really benefit in Expediting his development and transition to the NFL by going and being in a room with him because the footwork like everything starts with footwork everything starts with like progression

Knowing under knowing everything understanding the line understanding the rules and Aaron is so much of a master of that stuff that we just forget about that because he throws well but those things are the details that he does not miss and I think being around him every

Day for me I spent three years with Matt Ryan and he was awesome for me I learned a lot I learned how to play the game from like a methodical way but Aaron took it to a new level and a different understanding for me that like actually

It resonated even more so I felt like I took a bigger jump from that one year there and that I did in the three years trying to figure it out um in Atlanta so I could see it being a huge benefit to a young kid well I’ve had a lot of fun man

Catching up with you and your your content it’s tremendous hey I appreciate why do you remind fans where they can find you right now as far as because you’re on all these different platforms yeah go ahead yeah I use them all a little bit different but it’s just Kurt

Ben CT k r t b n kert everywhere um Twitter is more of my opinions and my takes and kind of what’s on my mind YouTube is more methodical with teaching football Tik Tok who the hell knows what happens on Tik Tok and then uh I live

Stream on Twitch from time to time when I play Madden so it’s kind of everything across the board and what would you tell people about your journey as a guy who grew up in Florida went to East Carolina he make the transfer to the Wahoos the University of Virginia and then you have

A number of stops in the National Football League and now you’re making your way here across all these kind of content platforms yeah um I would say the biggest thing that I learned is that you have to take matters into your own hands um and for me like I had played for five

Years but I’d just been sitting and waiting and waiting for an opportunity and I decided that I needed to start doing things outside of football that I could move forward and that I had control over because at the end of the day in football I was still relying on

Someone either missing a game getting hurt or something to see the field and that’s just what it was going to be as an undrafted guy so I think you have to not be afraid to pave your own way and do your own thing and do things that you

Enjoy doing um and if you can monetize them on the way then that’s obviously a plus awesome advice we hope we can catch up here soon Kurt of course we’ll be in touch have a good [Applause] one