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00:00 Intro
02:44 Sweet 16 Recap
19:55 Opening Day
35:20 Tom Izzo
01:21:50 Fyre Fest Of The Week

The Caleb Love vs RJ Davis matchup was stopped by Caleb Love and RJ Davis. Uconn is on an absolutely domination path and Terrance Shannon may be the only guy who can stop it. We talk World Series picks and Fridays Games. MIchigan State Head Coach Tom Izzo joins the show to talk about his career, tough coaching, his famous WAR drill, having a hoarse voice and tons more. We finish with Fyre Fest of the Week. 

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I don’t have my phone I think I left it in the couch can you pass my phone I think it’s I left it in the couch I think it’s underneath one of those I was sitting on that couch can you look under the it’s under your ass no you don’t

Have to cut this you just look under one of those oh it’s I think it’s under the cushion the cushion yep there it is there’s my phone can you pass me my phone Hank here I’ll come get my phone all right oh there you go yeah here’s my

New phone that’s your normal phone that you’ve always had normal phone I’ve always had this phone um on today’s part of my take we have an awesome interview with Michigan State head coach Tom ISO legend of the game Hall of Famer we’re going to talk some March Madness with him talk coaching the

War drill everything with uh coach ISO we’re also going to recap sweet 16 games we have four teams that have punched their tickets into the Elite 8 so we’re going to talk about that maybe also do a little abbreviated baseball preview cuz it was opening day we’ll give our picks

For the World Series our full baseball preview will come sometime in June uh and before we get to all of that we’re brought to you by our friends at DraftKings DraftKings the thrill and excitement of March Mania is here and DraftKings Sportsbook one of America’s top rated Sportsbook apps is giving new

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Love so they went a combined 0 for 18 from three o am I reading that right yeah it was the first time ever uh I saw the stat it was the first time ever so kale love 0 for9 from three RJ Davis 0 for9 from three first time any two

Players have shot 0 for9 or Worse from three on the same day in the NCAA tournament and Arizona and UNC are going home yeah and UNCC as big as any of those Miss threes was uh bott’s Miss dunk that’s why number one I don’t dunk number two uh two-handed lay counts the

Same yeah same amount of points that I mean that game was incredible UNCC Alabama was incredible uh and it came down to yeah Bott dunk but to me it was more uh Withers shooting a three with a minute left I don’t know why that guy was shooting that three with 10 seconds

Left on the shot clock when they’re up one with a minute left and then again it always comes down to this like Bott was an absolute monster on the boards and he gets his third foul with like 14 minutes left Hubert Davis pulls him for four or five minutes

And I’m not like I think they played about even but what Bott was doing on the offensive glass defensive glass like they could not guard him pick and roll it just completely changed the complexion of the game and I don’t know why you don’t say hey look you’re you’re

A 10th year senior you can stay out there and not foul and just do you know still be a positive for us grabbing up all the boards running pick and roll and Bama deserves all the credit though Grant Nelson was incredible Grant Nelson was an absolute Force love the mustache

Double double even had the block at the end of the game with like 6 seconds left the full court heave yeah I I I don’t know if he tried to miss that last foul shot I I was saying that he should just because yeah don’t let him set up

Anything to run a play uh even if you’re just inbounding it from underneath your own basket just let him try to Huck it and then he swatted him that was a great play by him awesome mustache for that guy North Dakota state that man looked he should be on the North Dakota state

Flag actually that should just he’s the new symbol they should build a Mount Rushmore in North Dakota and it should just be his face Devil’s Lake North Dakota Devil’s Lake so Alabama marching on that was it was an incredible game I mean this is what we all expected that

We’d get some sweet 16 games that were awesome Clemson beats Arizona Arizona runs one of the weirdest game plans ever where like Tommy Lloyd is I think a good coach but then they have these games in the tournament where they were just chucking threes I don’t think they

Guarded a guy off the ball once all night like they were just back cutting Clemson was back cutting Arizona to death and then you had on top of all of it they cut the lead and just like not deciding whether to foul or not and then having someone leak out and one with

Like 15 seconds left game over what did Rick patino teach us the Lost start of the bounce pass Clemson brought the bounce pass back they were feeding that dude down low running that like Princeton back door cut and Arizona didn’t even pretend like they wanted to

Defend it they were just like okay tell you what we’ll give up two points because we’re going to go down Court we’re going to shoot a three fun fact about the Arizona Wildcats they have now lost to a team seated at least four spots below them in each of their last

Six NCAA tournament appearances that’s the longest streak since seaing began in 1979 damn yeah it does feel like every year we’re like hey Arizona watch out they’re so good they have all these athletes Ballo is a problem and yet again they’re going home earlier than they expected and Clemson those Clemson Tigers p

I think Alabama’s going to run him out of the gym you they were [ __ ] good it was a cute little win cute little win that Clemson had you ran up against a team that couldn’t make a three-point shot Alabama’s going to just score 120 points on you that was uh they were they

Were running some awesome offense where they’re just getting easy looks at the basket yeah no they’re they’re going to continue to do that I think against Alabama yeah um but I’m I’m going to stick to our guns on this podcast I think they’re going to get smoked I think Clemson great story

Like how condesending can we be towards Clemson right now well we could say uh the teams that could win the tournament as of right now it’s Alabama it’s Yukon it’s Illinois it’s Purdue Gonzaga Tennessee Tennessee andon hon Houston and Duke and any NC State Marquette I would

Say but not Clemson NC State team Marquette Shaka smart proven winner I think uh I think Clemson you know it’s a good story they had kind of America sweethearts nobody saw coming they snuck into the tournament a lot of people not us said they shouldn’t be in the

Tournament y um but I think I think clock clock has struck midnight on the Clemson Tigers yeah also um shout out there’s a big golf tournament this weekend we had sewu Kim tracker uh give us an update uh he said Elite 8 bound [ __ ] you PFT cometer barcel big cat

Philly Mays yep we’ve made a very powerful [ __ ] love this track he’s the only tracker that I want to step outside of golf because that is such an aggressive tweet that I just I I tip my hat and be like that made me laugh out

Loud when I saw so wait on on Saturday when Clemson’s playing wait is there any chance they play an early game I would love it if it was like back-to-back tweets about like SE Kim in the rough off hole number nine one today Jo Gerard for three yeah Jo yeah exactly I want

Him to go I want him to be going back and forth between sea Kim updates and Clemson basketball updates switching back and fourth yeah so yeah Clemson I mean they were they did run perfect offense tonight and Arizona is a joke yeah they just chucked what did Arizona

End up shooting for three they just kept every every possession five of 28 five of 28 every possession for Arizona felt like when when you’re playing in like a a long terrible game of pickup and you’re at you know 13 points and then you’re like all right let’s just shoot a

Million threes when you could have gotten a couple layups but you’re like no let’s just keep chucking threes and try to end it this way they’re playing like they were tired yeah that’s what I’m saying like they’re like let’s get out of here let’s just try to win this

Game game by hitting a bunch of Threes that were not going to hit yeah it was it was a very weird game plan and their defense stunk tonight so I I think uh I think we’re at at the very least we have an Elite 8 matchup between Alabama and

Clemson where one of the two teams will go to the final four for the first time and probably the best football matchup that you can get yeah i’ would love to watch that football game on Saturday yeah they should yeah they should just replay one of the replay the the hunter

Infro national championship game yeah in the other uh in the other bracket we should talk talk about Yukon and their path of Destruction so here is yukon’s last eight tournament games 24o or sorry nine tournament games now 24o win 15-point win 23o win 28o win 13-point

Win 17-point win 39o win 17o win and the craziest thatat of all is Yukon has won nine straight tournament games Andrew Hurley has recorded a minute in every single one of those games yeah I I would say maybe a crazy says that Yukon has won nine straight tournament games

Despite the fact that the committee is doing everything they can to prevent Danny Hurley and his team from moving on I love Danny Hurley so so much he was he he got pissed at his player for hitting a three the minute left so about that I

I do have a bone to pick with Danny Hurley so I’ll say something nice about him and then I’ll I’ll unleash my gripe something nice about Danny Hurley I think he’s right on the money he said after the game that they need to show his wife on TV more yeah I respectfully agree

With Danny Hurley I like her necklace she has a blinged out husky necklace that looks awesome I I did not see her necklace but I’ll try to notice it next time I agree with Danny Hurley again respectfully respectfully um I’d knock it out of the park respectfully with all

Due respect all due respect Gandhi uh and then yeah go ahead yeah the other part is uh my gripe with him let your son shoot let your son take a three I know you guys are winning these games by a lot of points but let Andrew put up a

Shot with like 60 seconds left I think he did put up a couple shots against Stetson I want to say but yeah I agree he’s telling he’s on the sidelines being like BCL classy B Class I get it the people want Andrew Hurley to make a

Three I agree he uh yeah he went oh no he hasn’t he hasn’t gotten a shot he got a he he recorded a foul against Stetson he has not gotten a shot this tournament but he got a couple last tournament I agree let him get a shot let him get a

Shot may maybe he’s doing it because he knows that his son is also going to be standing coach one day and he wants his son to not let his grandson but I feel like I If you were to ask the uh the patriarch of the family like the grandfather probably wants the grandson

To make a shot right yeah but the dad doesn’t right so by instilling these values into Andrew Hurley Danny Hurley is actually preventing his own future happiness watching his grandson make a shot right butaa tournament tough hurly love and Yukon is just an absolute monster right now is this your worst nightmare Max

Uh n i mean because if they go back to back like this the way they’re going like that’s that’s way more impressive than Nova’s two titles oh yeah I mean they’re at this point it doesn’t even matter they’re just so far ahead of us in every facet of History standings in

The Big East future M present afterlife everything they’re I mean they’re they they like everyone’s you know Bitcoin this shitcoin that Yukon Yukon is Yukon just they all they do is just kill teams by a million we’re doing like uh Colin coward B Yukon is like Apple stock it is

It’s like Amazon it’s [ __ ] insane how good they are and they have an answer for everything and I don’t even think they played like an A+ game tonight and that was it was like San Diego State uh it was like 1010 or something and then you looked up and it was a nine-point

Lead and then you looked up and it was a 20-point lead like okay San Diego State pulled their starters with four minutes left the the problem is we haven’t seen Yukon like I haven’t paid that close attent I’ve been watching the scores of Yukon games more than I’ve been watching

The actual on court action they have an answer for everything they have dudes everywhere dudes they can hit they can play any style you want to play they got a monster down low they got guards that can hit shots like they just do everything and uh yeah it’s going to be

Actually I I was so I was rooting for Illinois not because of big 10 but because I wanted to see Illinois versus Yukon which we get now in the Elite eight because if there’s only if there’s one person who could possibly stop Yukon it’s the way that teren Shannon is

Playing basketball right now he’s unreal he’s out of it’s like insane he needs to make his foul shots though oh their whole teammates needs to make their foul shots that was the fact that Illinois won a sweet 16 game going 15 for 29 from the free throw line like they should

Have won that game by by 10 points plus and we we talked about this on Sunday I think that the tournament you can’t not everyone can beat Yukon where it’s like every game you roll out and you’re winning by double digits some teams are going to have to survive a B minus game

And that’s what it felt like Illinois did tonight and they you know Iowa State’s a very tough team and Illinois like that Damas and and uh teren Shannon and Coleman Hawkins like I know that yukon’s gonna be favorites I know Yukon can can probably waste anyone but this

Game is going to be so awesome on Saturday it’s going to be great yeah and under W is coaching his dick off too I love him yeah booty ball booty ball he’s coaching booty ball throwing his ass into him left and right left and right it’s good it’s it’s good for the sport

Um I did not I did not know why is it otzelberger or oelberg otzelberger otzelberger wears the type polo shirts he’s like he’s he’s a Wisconsin guy he’s a wrestler I think so I I looked it up and uh he wears actually a medium he wears a size between small and medium

And the reason why he does it is is to emphasize accountability to his team I like that is what he says it’s the best coach talk ever so he says that uh the the polo gives me a greater sense of self-discipline each day that I wear the

Same size and opt for that it helps me stay as disciplined and as accountable as I need to be or program wearing that shirt so he wears it so that he can’t put on weight I love it which is a smart move yeah and then if that’s if that

Size becomes too small for you then you know that you [ __ ] up and you weren’t accountable I do the exact opposite and I only wear black sweatshirts yeah I’m being as the least accountable I could be I like that in this situation uh but yeah great games I can’t wait for

Tonight’s games uh should we do some picks for tonight’s game should we talk about it oh Hank what do you got in front of you got the Coors Light Ice L yeah glass slipper yeah there you go a PFT commenter idea come to life nice

Yeah you pour the beer right in there oh I remember that meeting when you said that yeah you you do a shoey out of it yeah when your when your Cinderella moves on you want to do a shoey out of it yeah sure we maybe we’ll do it right

Before the iso interview let’s do that because it will be the it would be the last thing we do before we kick it to ISO uh I did one earlier uh very very cold turns out ice extremely cold yes the coldest well is it the coldest is

Ice the coldest you can get no you can get colder than ice can you yeah cor is light that’s true that’s fact all right so let’s do some picks uh brought to you by our friends at Uber Eats big announcement did you know that you can get almost almost anything from Uber

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Do we like oh [ __ ] I don’t have my phone I think I left it in the couch can you pass my phone I think it’s I left it in the couch I think it’s underneath one of those I was sitting on that couch can you look under the it’s under your ass

No you don’t have to cut this you just look under one of those oh it’s I think it’s under the cushion the cushion yep there it is there’s my phone can you pass me my phone Hank here I’ll come get my phone right oh there you go yeah

Here’s my new phone that’s your normal phone that you’ve always had normal phone I’ve always had this phone um are you wearing lipstick no that’s just the Hue of my lips okay uh so yeah all right so let me look up on my normal phone uh

What is it for people who are listening oh the people are listening uh it’s a beautiful pink phone case I I always been a case guy I don’t know I’ve always been a case guy I’ve always been a pink fa case guy I think that this is the

Height of masculinity and it screams if I were to uh have to lead a locker room I would would you guys feel like I’m leading this locker room right now uh I don’t know I don’t know I can take I don’t even think that’s the right wait

Hold on hold on hold it look I bought the wrong one I bought the wrong one watch this now do I feel like I’m I’m doing I’m leading a locker room no it seems like you’re it does seems like you’re very gin Z yeah no I bought the

Wrong I bought the wrong one it doesn’t fit yeah uh anyway uh I like the Gonzaga Purdue over 154 and a half okay I love love love I gave Purdue as my mega Max uh lock of the first round that hit easily and it’s been overtaken by

Gonzaga money line oh I love love love feeling froggy love it frog is very simple he sees a plus sign he’s like I like that better yeah more money froggy I love froggy but what why frog you feeling froggy I don’t know yeah froggy I don’t understand the

Reference but I don’t either but it feels sounds good doesn’t it you feel a little froggy sure sure why don’t you leap okay done I love Tennessee love them love them minus two and a half give me Tennessee give me the power of tea okay it’s tea season okay well uh you

Can get almost almost anything at Uber Eats so go check it out right now get grocery alcohol everyday essentials in addition to the restaurant food you love Uber Eats almost almost anything order now um boys so we have these games wait Hank are you going to be Duke

Hank very important question yeah you’re going to go all in I’ll be in not all in I don’t have any gear yeah I’m not I’m not all in but you don’t have any gear no I told you I I when I moved I got rid of some clothes

And I had one Duke SWAT shirt and that didn’t make the cut do you have anything from like Brooks Brothers yeah yeah yeah just wear like a wear a collar shirt and talk down to us any loafers yeah I actually have a nice I have a nice super douchy uh white and

Blue pinstriped oh yeah you should do that perfect and then make everybody want to punch you in the face yeah easy yeah yeah very that’s yeah just walk in the room um should we talk a little baseball it is opening day let’s talk ball we should talk ball see heads we

Get it so we want to do some we’ll do our full uh baseball preview in the coming weeks but we should probably give our picks for the World Series also I want to say I’m starting to think maybe sh Otani does have a gambling problem I’m coming back to your side P yeah

Because have you thought more about the fact that when you do a wire transfer somebody hits you up and says like hey you need to authorize this I was really banking on the forensic accountants and I still don’t really understand what they do and so when I was thinking about

It more I was like what if these forensic accountants don’t figure it out so once the forensic accountants got involved did you also consider the fact that uh number one you get you get a text notification or an email from the bank yeah but he might Show’s he might

Be like have given this guy’s [ __ ] account and then two have have you thought about the fact that to get forensic accounts involved you have to press charges against somebody and and as of at least yesterday afternoon there’s no record of any charges being pressed I will say though I do think the

MLB is just going to sweep it under the rug oh of course they yeah that’s it’s like it’s almost done I’m telling you I think it might be done they’re goingon to they’re going to reinstate Pete Rose yeah and they’ll be like under the new rules Shi did very little wrong so we’re

Gonna we’re GNA under our new rules Shi is still eligible to play um we should do our first round of dingers only draft just the first round that’s what we’re going do right take one player was it one player a week oh I I kind of like

Doing the whole draft at once we we talked about doing one player a week for the first nine weeks of the season I I feel like that’s going to be kind of like the Dynasty uh recap that we did that just get it over with all at

Once yeah no I think that’s probably people are going to be pissed about that I think we got to just do one for show no yeah I think we got to just do a dinger’s only draft okay when when the time comes we’ll know it it’s going to

Take sh for we’ll feel it when it happens like we’ll feel it being like oh [ __ ] there’s nothing else to talk about dinger’s only time yeah but baseball’s back Juan sto MVP Yankees World Series that was a sick put out from right field that he had that was great Tyler O’Neal

Who I didn’t even know what team he played for uh our boss Dave texted me this morning he said he’s hit a home run four straight opening days he hit a home run for his fifth straight opening day pretty incredible pretty nuts so what do

We got for World Series picks I have uh a future that I put in DraftKings that I liked a lot first time World Series winner so either the Rockies Brewers Padres Mariners or Rays so the Rockies Ro lost by 16 Diamond Backs had a 14 run inning 14 run so Rockies are

Out the Rockies have a pitcher who’s I think his erra is 168 right now yeah who else Brewers out pods maybe pods okay it’s going to be the pods who else Mariners maybe yeah they got bad luck Rays yeah yeah it’s pods and Rays okay pods and rays and maybe

Mariners yeah okay great Sports down all right so my um World Series pick is I’m gonna have I won’t pick the Cubs they already Lo they’re already 0 and one so they might just stink they got a hold climb out of I’m going to say I’m going

To take the Orioles over the Dodgers okay you took half mine I’ve been on the Orioles for the last three years and I’m just going to stay on the Orioles you took half mine they’ve got Good Vibes for the Orioles this year oh yeah new owner by the way Old owner died that’s

True um did you know that their new owner owns the Magna Carta I was watching the game today and they had they had the owner up in the Box they were interviewing him during the game this dude bought the Magna Carta can you explain to Hank what the Magna Carta is

For everyone yeah sure Hank doesn’t understand so the Magna Carta is a document that was signed in England that limits the power of the king so it was like yeah we still have a king but he’s not controlling everybody anymore that was a declaration of independence that

So the owner said the Declaration of the Constitution was based off the Magna Carta so this is like the OG Declaration of Independence I’d rather have the Declaration of Independence Nicholas Cage style yeah this dude this dude is actually National Treasure yeah but yeah you own that do he I don’t know he’s

Like a very rich Revel he’s a very yeah very rich person who owns everything else and he’s like you know what I need the magn Carta that feels like something that should be in a museum it should now you sound like Indiana Jones but yeah

Yeah it’s a Jay-Z song too I don’t know who was first uh Jay-Z might be on the hot seat next up Holy Grail get both of them no that’s the name of the song What Magna Carta Holy Grail no way yeah that’s crazy that I just accidentally

Said that and didn’t actually know it oh damn P don’t make him feel dumb that’s wild sorry Hank but yeah this [ __ ] bought the Magna Carta anyways my pick is uh the Orioles and then I’m going to you can’t I already took them I want I wanted the Orioles

Already took them you you told Hank to go first and then you went out of nowhere the pattern of the show is Hank gives his pick and then I give mine pick someone else besides I have the Baltimore Orioles and then I have my pick then I have the Atlanta Braves you

Got to pick someone else besides Orioles you do rangers again no you had the Rangers last year no I’ve had the Orioles for three straight years I have the I have the Orioles no that doesn’t count why not find someone else in the AL can I get a back up on this we

Usually we got to have no but we got to have as many you jump the gun it is true Hank hasn’t given I did I gave four no you have to give an actual pick you just said a bet you made all right pods over raise you should said or or IDI

ID you had a perfect spot there God damn it do it again Hank pods over Red Sox no you idiots Max what’s your pick Phillies over Orioles Okay so Max has the Orioles all right fine Max has the Orioles Jake what’s your pick Yankees over Braves okay okay I’ll go uh Rangers over

Dodgers all right you got I got the uh I got the Orioles over no you can’t Max has the Orioles now I got the Orioles over come on respect it we all got different teams now I gave up the Orioles okay all right I’m gonna go with the Yankees losing

No Jake has he no he can do that Los Los Los okay I I have the Orioles losing okay to the Braves got it no he has the Orioles losing he has Phillies over Orioles yeah you have Orioles winning I guess even though you can’t have them

Losing either yeah you can’t have them losing you can’t have the Orioles Okay I have a I have a strike I think there’s going to be a strike and nobody’s going to win how about that no World Series vacated I want the Oriols to win now so

Bad so that Max can get credit for it even though he has him losing in the World Series all credit to Max no that would actually Rock if the Orioles won the World Series pH and Max had them losing the world yeah oh God damn it I might do exact future

Orioles over Phillies imagine that this would be a great clip all right what else anything else going on in the Sports World before we uh watch Hank try to drink out of this yeah in Major League Baseball big cat and I have decided to fade the Athletics every

Single game yep so we’re putting a unit on the Athletics every time they play 162 times a year we’re betting against them wake up bed against the Athletics sleep profit repeat that’s the strategy this year one and minus one and a half every single game they might be favored they were favored

For three games last year they went one and two in those games which is it’s so sad to say that out loud plus 120 tomorrow plus 120 right now so it so it hit in day one so we’re up on the year um we hate John fiser [ __ ] joh guy a

Piece of [ __ ] and he’s ruined the team he’s made them unwatchable as a big [ __ ] you to the Oakland fans he’s trying to move the team to Las Vegas Vegas doesn’t even really want them that bad so he’s piece of [ __ ] he’s my new Dan Snider I

Want that guy gone and if you happen to be a listener in Las Vegas there is an act right now it’s called it’s a bill that I think they’re putting forward called the schools over stadiums Alliance which is basically the billionaires should pay for their own

[ __ ] Stadium act I like this um to try to not give him the $380 million I don’t know anything about Las Vegas politics or what else is in the bill uh but I will endorse voting against giving John fiser the $380 million act I mean getting 380 in Vegas can’t be hard you

Don’t think so no I think Bruno Mar is probably tough right oh no he got 50 right all he needs to do is go to the tunnel of chaos yeah Dana White’s got him hooked up in no time oh did you see Sage Steel call him Joe Rogan yeah so we

For every interview that we have from now on um we should just open it up with what’s Joe Rogan’s dream yeah what’s Joe Rogan’s dream that I my skin crawled cuz we’ve made mistakes as interviewers but I don’t think we’ve ever done that I think we ever accidentally interviewed

The wrong person have we no oh that one time the guy called up pretend to be Mike Leech yep and also uh Dr James Andrews we got completely Bamboozled I thought it was the the surgeon I didn’t know it was a professor we done I did remember I told asked college basketball

Play or something Randy Moss I think Boer and Gio yeah they did that but they kind yeah I feel like they did that as a bit I mean what about what Rich Eisen did this week oh Rich Eisen was that was [ __ ] up he went after DJ Burns what’d he

Say he’s like when did you put on all the weight oh my God right and he was like excuse me sir because he’s so polite like do you think that we didn’t want to ask DJ Burns that but I would never ask a guy that because I love DJ

Burns DJ Burns is awesome the vending machine yeah I want him to win by the way we we signed an nil deal with DJ Burns awesome shirt in the store now in the store now and Jack gki who is here uh he watched the games with us on uh on

Thursday night we’re going to do a PMT challenge video which we got to figure out what we’re going to do I think I’ve got an idea for it okay want to throw it out there well Hank Hank told me no oh why’ Hank tell me no no throw it out

There okay probably because you tried to steal the Orioles from uh we’re gonna we’re gonna play golf with them oh no what what’s the idea so the idea well Hank doesn’t want me to say it no I want you to say it well we’re going to make

The video anyway so we might as well get everyone excited about the video yeah I think having me you and Hank shooting threes on one basket all at the same time while he shoots one person on the other basket maybe we could get everybody else involved too all of us

Against gki we’re going to have a hard time tracking the balls but I’m down have have one guy under the hoop yeah I think maybe an easier way to do that would be uh yeah okay yeah yeah I think maybe we do that but maybe it’s like he goes first and he

Gets a minute see how many he makes then we go so it’s a little more it’s less chaotic and we can have people rebounding also so that we can watch [ __ ] just get wet from right I I want to see him shoot I want to see how wet the man

Can be he also says that we need to have he needs to have a close out so we should also just do a video of Us closing out on him yeah seeing how many he can hit in our eyes and his face yeah all right either way we’re gonna make a

Great video uh all right Hank you want to try it yeah all right here we go Han Hank Hank Hank Hank Hank Hank Hank also sorry to Michigan State fans we didn’t realize that you all are trying to get Tom ISO to wear a suit again uh if we

Had known we would have asked him but I talked to someone in missig State afterwards and Tom ISO said why would I wear a suit I can dress comfortably all right there you go Hank oh oh that’s cold what was that an eighth of a beer

Well it doesn’t take a doesn’t take a full beer but no if you hold it sideways wait Max Max has you he’s got you oh the real let a real man do this let a real man come and help no he’s GNA hold it for you oh he almost ate

[ __ ] come on Max you hold it up you hold it up pour it and he’s going to pour it oh there we go let’s not stand in front of the camera don’t stand in front of the camera Max oh it’s so cold I told you

Hank oh the the ice is cold yeah oh no your hands oh my God Hank this is now sounds like a five-year-old you’re making a mess of this oh Jesus Hank the ice is so cold oh the ice is cold Max ice is cold on my Whitt whip my whips

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ISO okay we now welcome on a very very special guest he is Hall of Fame basketball coach Michigan State it is Tom ISO coach thank you so much for joining us we got a million questions uh you have been someone on our list that we’ve wanted to have on the show for a

Very long time I guess I’ll start here because it is tournament time uh you guys obviously you know bounced last weekend but had had you know you have tons of success in the tournament so I wanted to start with what is it about the the tournament that is so different

Than the regular season from a coaching perspective that has given you all the success you’ve had in your career you know guys that’s that’s a million-dollar question I don’t know why I’ve had success I’ve had success because of good players I’ve had success because when we started this whole thing out many many

Years ago with matin Cleaves and Morris Peterson’s and Jason Rich you know that that fiveyear stretch you know you were like you guys when you started your show you know everybody’s all in you’re this and that and I’ve been lucky here I got alums like Magic Johnson and Greg kelzer

I got I got guys like the Vincent Brothers I got guys like Steve Smith who Sean Wert those guys kind of caught fire with our group right away and we started having reunions uh every year and and those reunions brought excitement and what they did is you know magic was

About winning championships cleeves is about winning championships you know draymont you know winning championships and it just kind of grew and uh so now when March comes I mean most people think I do nothing until March and then I coach a little bit in March this year

I did a lot before March and I did nothing in March but I I think that what you do is you realize it’s one and done and when those players call back to our current players and say you know what month it is it’s March you know and it

Matters and there’s no my bads anymore and there’s no mistakes so I get a help from a lot of my great alums and I probably get too much credit for what I do they deserve the credit for what they do and what they did when they were here

Yeah no it’s January February ISO you’ve heard that nickname before don’t don’t you wish it was January February March ISO yeah you know what I like that better yeah I think I’m gonna try to reinvent that but I better get off my dead butt and get it done because uh you know I

Would rather be play in April but um you know we’ve had had some good runs we we’ve had some you know highs and lows but uh through it all I think around here it’s important to everybody yeah our fans on our lumps great that’s normal that’s everywhere but our former

Players I think separates us makes it special the way they call back I mean Irving called when we were playing um against North Carolina you know I got the pool ready for you guys to come out here we’re all set you know win this game and and and I relay those things or

Sometimes they’ll FaceTime we’ll do it in a meeting room it’s pretty cool and it’s one of the things that staying at the same place for a long time and having some of those great players but the players do deserve the credit guys I I I don’t say that humbly I say that

Honestly but but okay so you are being humble uh and I appreciate your humbleness but in terms of the tournament in the coaching X’s and O’s there are definitely coaches that are able to get the the most out of their team come this time of year and some

That fall short you’ve always been a most out of your team guy the the quick turnaround that’s always what I’m curious about when you have to play a Thursday then a Saturday and you’re scouting a team that you’ve never seen before and they play in a different

Conference what is it that you do that’s so different that has been able to put your team in these situations where they’ve had success because that I think is a very difficult unique aspect of March Madness having to scout a team in 24 hours and be like all right we got to

Roll out and play I will say that that’s pretty good of you guys that that is one thing we have done pretty well here and the reason we’ve done it pretty well is my first year in the tournament we played Eastern Michigan in my first tournament I think matin Cleaves and

Peterson those guys that won it were sophomores I had a good staff Tom crane Brian Gregory Stan Heath Stan’s been in the fros uh you know those other two guys have coached that major colleges and we sat out and said oh my God if we beat

Eastern you know it was just let’s win a game that’s all we wanted to do is win a game then I learned the Mike sheski rule you got to win the weekend yeah and once you got to win the weekend because the game isn’t good enough anymore nobody

Cares if you win one game then you got to start preparing ahead of time for the weekend what we did that weekend we went from playing Eastern Michigan to Princeton and Princeton was really good they ran all that back door stuff and it

Was a hard prep and I we said how are we going to get this through to our guys so we took these 20 minut minute segments and so we got home that night at 1 o’clock in the morning I said we’re going to watch 20 minutes of film so

That they go to bed dreaming about Princeton we got up in the morning we had breakfast we had like 15 minutes before breakfast breakfast 15 minutes after and we’d have a walkth through we’d have 15 minutes of walk through then we’d have lunch then another you

Know so I try to divide it up knowing that the tension span especially in this pressure packed time and I think of all the things we’ve done the Princeton game helped kind of My Philosophy our philosophy and so now we stole something from Mike and Duke any weekend we go we

Try to win the weekend which means I got a couple assistance working on the other two teams that we could play and we might not even get there right yeah thing is and this uh this 15 20 minute segments I I think has really helped us

So yeah you mentioned Coach K I know that you guys are pretty close do you guys you share everything with each other or there things where you want to keep some things to yourself and not not let the other guy know man you know Mike you didn’t share anything with me I

Stole what I got I just I heard him say it one time and stole it but uh he’s done such a great job and I look at guys like Nick Sabin you know who I started with here and I pick coaches in different professions that I that I do

Admire that I do respect because what we’re all trying to be is consistent unfort during the regular season this year guys we were consistently inconsistent but what you look for in over my career I think we’ve been pretty consistent yeah I just thought when I

Heard that from Mike um you know we we we we gotta win the weekend so God made sense after we won our first uh once we got through that first weekend that first year when then North Carolina beat us in the sweet 16 um you know after that it was went to

A final four then we won the naal champ then nobody cared if you won a game in the tournament all anybody cared is did you advance yeah so that’s to win the weekend and prepare for the weekend and some people would say well you’re preparing for a team that you might play

Two games from now you’re not putting enough into the game you’re playing well we did but we also prepared for that next and I think that’s all you win the weekend who who would you say would be the toughest types of teams to prepare for well like a Princeton was very

Difficult to prepare for like if I was playing in this tournament now Purdue would be a different harder team to play play for they got a monster in there he’s not even human I mean he’s guy Zach is he’s an incredible size but he’s a very good athlete in that and uh and

Matt Painter does such a good job of getting them the ball 9,000 different ways that it’s a tough prep a tough prep would be a team like Kentucky in the past when patino was there and they’re pressing the whole game you know now you don’t run into many press presses and

All of a sudden it happened to us Florida with Billy Donovan we didn’t run thatti any teams that pressed we play Wisconsin to like a 5248 game you know because back then Dick Bennett it was slow down and that we had to play that style yeah and then everybody said well

Two days later you’re gonna play Florida and I said great we want to go up and down they pressed the whole game we attacked it you know we beat him 89 to 70 or something you know so I think that was another key thing with our teams we

Could be versatile we could play Smashmouth we could play racehorse yeah I think the best teams I had could do both and you need that when you get into tournament play and you don’t know who you’re G to be playing yeah so I I I went to Wisconsin I’m a badger so I’ve

Not I I’ve I’ve not liked Michigan state for a very long time question for you who do you think the the player that you coached was most hated by other teams cuz I have an answer I have a guy that I hated so much that every time I saw him

On TV my blood would boil who do you think that was for for like who do you think most like when you when you came out into an opposing Stadium you’re like oh man they really hate this guy yeah well they didn’t treat uh Cleaves very good in Madison

But I I don’t think they treated Draymond very good but uh that’s because you know those were the better players I you know I had a lot of players that got booted at a lot of places so give me the answer okay my answer is one one so easy

I I hated hated hated Paul Davis I hated that guy God damn it did I hate that guy you know Paul was a funny guy because he wasn’t you know the elitist of elite players like some of those other guys but he had that Knack around him kind of

Like uh not as good but kind of like the kid everybody hates from from duke you know yeah Phil palowski yeah yeah where it’s just like something oh back then yeah yeah leer and and JJ lner yes lner very good yeah well you guys are on top

Of your stuffff yeah I hated Paul Davis and you’re right it was more about the fact that like he just always had a knack for like the big rebound or the big play and it’s like God damn it do I hate this guy but it makes Sports fun

The hate is fun that’s what I I love about it you get these rivalries and we did have some great rivalries when Bo was there and and Bo did a great job too and it was kind of really fun that both be in because you know you hate your

Rivalries you hate them and then what hate turns into when it goes long enough is total respect yeah yeah you know what I mean it goes to Total respect because I mean Bo was here his first trip here I think he broke our 54 game home winning

Streak so all of our people hated Wisconsin and then we both got so good and then in 15 we were both in the final four and we found out when we got to the to Indianapolis we were both pulling for each other you know and and now I’m I’m

Friends with Bo I called him when I went out to California you know because you respect people that challenge you every day if you’re really good you that that’s what you need and and they do it the right way and Wisconsin greig guard is a good friend they’re they’ve always

Done it the right way yeah yeah you don’t hate nobody you wouldn’t hate somebody if they weren’t a challenge for you right so it’s like a sign of respect and I think a little bit of hate is is actually good in sports uh coach I I got

A tough question to ask you because you’ve been known as being a fiery guy you’ve been uh called the fifth angriest Co coach in college basketball they did a poll but you’re also known as a teddy bear I read an article about you recently that said that you were

Actually a teddy bear so are you a nice guy are you a teddy bear are you angry you know yeah I’m an Italian guy that I wear my emotions on my sleeve um and if you look at some of the Antics on TV it’s it’s just emotion you know and I

Don’t always do it on purpose but I can see where someone would think I was angry if you talk to most of my guys the time I spend with them how much I care about them I think I’d be a double teddy bear you know but um what I think the

Big key is nowadays that we’re really all having trouble with is how do you be demanding and tough enough to hold people accountable and yet caring and understanding enough to let them know that you care because nobody cares how much you know to you they know how much

You care kind of theory you know and I think the only way you do that is spend time so part of me doesn’t doesn’t care what most people outside think what I care about is the reunions that we have does everybody come back does everybody call in in March does all those things

Happen if those things are happening um I think I’ve done it right but uh I can see where people and people take things wrong you know I mean the guy makes the same mistake seven times what am I gonna say hey Johnny would you please do it

Right this time you know you wouldn’t do that with your own kids yeah and sometimes I get accused of that but I know this I love my guys I spent a lot of time with them they’ve done a lot for me and I’m probably deservant of being

Angry sometimes yeah I I’ve always uh loved the specific part of your coaching career where if you know we live in a different day and age now there’ll be like a clip where Tom ISO Reams out a player Tom ISO grabs a player and everyone will flip out and be like you

Can’t coach like this and then almost immediately all of the guys that you coached will come your defense and it’s like this this is what this is who we should be listening to the guys that were with him and know his coaching style know who he is as a person and

It’s like shut shut the hell up like he’s he’s coaching a certain way so that has to make you feel great though when all your guys like always come to your defense almost immediately Draymond if you if you grab a player Draymond be like that’s that guy and Coach have a

Relationship that none of you can speak on that has to feel great even Charles Barkley stuck up for me on one you know because I I think you you know yeah you can’t grab players anymore you can’t why you know I can hug them right I feel

Good about them why can’t I grab them if I if they made the same mistake nine time if you think that any coach Nick Savin who was here with me you think any coach that I guess hat Riley that is more you know more volatile John

Thompson um that they just do that on one or two or three mistakes you know some of it they do it because I know where that kid wants to go right he want he wants to win a championship and get to the NBA and you know what I do the

Same thing in school if if he wants his degree and he’s doing things that make that hard I’m gonna get on them there too and what I think that I hope I say this right I’m not phony yeah what you see is what you get and they see it from the day they

Come here so there’s no surprises yeah and and by the way it has been dialed back a lot because because our society is so damn soft that like you say they look you look at you getting mad at a guy you could even look at him wrong and somebody saying

Something nowadays yeah it’s so stupid it’s it’s ridiculous it’s crazy because you are with those guys all the time and your relationship like if if someone random grabs them it’s like yeah that’s different but it’s like the relationship is there it’s it’s built on something something it’s completely different than

What we’re watching in a two-c clip so I yeah I’ve always had your back in those situations always always stuned me now you you love coaching rebounding and your teams are always tough have you found that it’s harder to instill tough hardnose like rebounding your War do you

Still do your War drill where you put them in pads football pads and helmets and just let them go rebound isn’t that a great question when my former guys come back I mean if you would have saw matin Cleaves trying to buckle chin straps on guys

That are 69ine that never even knew how to put on a football helmet you would have laughed but let me tell you that story we go to Ohio State first time all year I think we had 28 24 games in a row we had won the rebound battle we lose it

Couple players go off on a couple other players in the locker room that’s not what we do here and I said wow nothing better than a player coach team right guys so y yep get back I call Sab and I said listen I need 12 set some football

Gear practice tomorrow he goes huh I said can I get him yeah sure call my equipment guy I get him so last 20 minutes of practice we’re going to do our little wardrobe so I said since we’re getting soft and we don’t want to get anybody hurt we’ll put on football

Pads that way you can’t get hurt so we did and I was mad I wanted it to be a they had so much fun that it became all we talked about and then we talked talked about it for five years later and 10 years later and so now the guys will

Say coach bring out the football patch you know rebound is good I can’t do that man I’d get sued nowadays I can’t do that anymore so it’s uh it’s a shame you know that because those guys had a riot doing it yeah and nobody got hurt of

Cars because you’re in full pads helmets it was uh it was one of the great things you get to do it was a memory making moment and I’m afraid that our Society is getting so screwed up we don’t have as many memory making moments yeah and there were some guys that copied me

There were some guys that called me ask me what I do but those same guys call me now when we’re not rebounding as well they say do you do that I go no trying for other things I don’t wanna I don’t want to get killed you know the sad part

Is back then you know of course we videotaped every practice hell I had to get rid of that video I said somebody will somebody will sue me later on so and now when we have reunion all the players want to see that that’s all they want to talk about yeah

I’d love to see that film yeah sounds like a great time I kind of want to do it we should actually do that in the office basketball court we should do good helmets and shoulder pads yeah so so which what explain the drill to us so that we can recreate it here yeah

There’s there’s five guys that are right under the basket and five guys around the three-point line and the coach will throw it up and the two shall meet you know and they hit find the ball and go rebound it you know I think guys if there’s one thing that has been the

Hardest part of coaching now and I think you’re you’re seeing this um I give I give Kelvin Samson who by the way he sat here I took his spot he was a ga for Jed Heath coat and Kelvin is his teams are might be the toughest teams in in

College basketball right I don’t know you know he’s at Houston so maybe he’s just coming on the scene um I don’t know what he does every day but it’s hard to make teams tougher because our society is so soft you know and you say well that’s barbaric or that they used to say

We were a football team on hardwood I always took that as a compliment that was great compliment but the game is getting more physical again because I think they’re letting it go more but players aren’t necessarily more physical except Houston they’re the most physical team I think in uh in the tournament

Yeah yeah you you mentioned uh coach Sabin and how you guys spent time there together did you did you know when Nick SA got there like this guy this guy is going to be great you know when Nick came here as an assistant I came here as

Assist was in 87 and um and belich came here a couple times to work the camp and it was just and Nick’s house was not far from mine and uh you know listening to belich you know the one time I went over there and I knew Nick was gonna be

Something good and then he left to go to the Houston Oilers then he went to Toledo and then he went back with belich at Cleveland and then then I got the job here and then six months later Nick got the head job here so we reunited we were

Here five years together and uh did I ever think he’d be what he is no no is it incredible that what he’s done it is incredible um you can talk about having good players a lot of people have good players and don’t get it done he is to

Me um one of the greatest coaches in any sport and I mean that with respect admiration and knowledge yeah you know I know what I’m talking about um and he was a I mean you talk about demanding um he probably did the opposite as I did I put football pads on

My guys to play he probably put his guys in jocks and t-shirts and said now go tackle each other you know he probably went the opposite yes yes yeah let’s get you toughened up by just hitting each other with pads on yeah yeah I got a

Weird question coach uh is there a date or maybe even a year that you can remember your voice uh the last time you had your voice fully and it wasn’t horse you know that’s another thing that we should talk about you know everybody thinks it’s yelling at Players right

That’s what everybody says you’re yelling at Players the truth is it’s yelling at my wife no that’s not but the real truth is usually when it gets in the season um especially the tournament I don’t sleep at all you know you don’t sleep much why would you sleep

You know that’s for death you can you got a tournament to win yeah and when I don’t sleep my voice goes I I swear to God it’s it’s not it’s not you don’t have players I get blamed for so many things that aren’t true now some of them

Are true but um it’s not that at all it’s it’s when I lose sleep or I don’t sleep well like even now you don’t sleep well now how could you sleep well you don’t know who you got and who’s in the portal and who you’re paying and who’s

Going on but right now um it’ll start coming back a little bit I think I got a Perpetual uh horse voice how was that yeah it’s an all you’re a horse voice Hall of Famer like it just is a few coaches up on that pedestal there’s there you Doc Rivers I would actually

Say Kelvin Samson he’s he’s on that list too yeah Doc Rivers I work with Doc in the Goodwill games I I love doc he’s he’s great too so good yeah the horse voice Hall of Fame we’re going to get back to coach ISO in a second he’s brought to you by

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ISO so uh so coach what is it what is it about Italians that you think makes great basketball coaches because there’s there’s a lot of them like the Big East has been filled with Italians for as long as I can remember but even still to

This day we’ve got a lot of good it coaches what is it about being Italian that makes you a good basket or helps you if you have the background knowledge to be a great basketball coach you know the funny part of that is as you know most Italians are not gifted with hype

Yeah we should we should be better football coach you know Kell Perry patino you know uh Raley mamino you know that we’re all regular normal guys like I think you guys but uh I don’t know what it is you know I I do think one thing that has helped me and my father

Did did it but my grandfather did it you know when you were an immigrant like they were coming in I mean you’re in a working man’s world you know you just worked your way you didn’t know anything else you my family were working in the

Mines or working here and there and so I think work ethic helps you become successful in whatever you decide to do and I think uh the Italian Guys I know their fathers or grandfathers we’re all in that that doesn’t mean other nationalities aren’t either you just ask

Me a question that’s the only dumb answer I can come up with um I got a question about one of your former players Draymond Green who has gone on to win four titles been an incredible piece to what the Warriors have done their Dynasty uh how often do you talk

To him and are you ever like hey Draymond maybe don’t be as crazy like CU you you obviously were able to keep him less crazy I’ve always been of the approach that Draymond you need one of those guys on your team that plays on the edge and that every now and then

Going over the edge is actually not a bad thing because it gives your team that little bit of [ __ ] to him that you need to win games but are you ever do you ever have a conversation with them you’re like Hey listen you’re you’re unbelievable player but yeah maybe don’t

Go after everyone all the time yeah a lot of times and and I talked to Steve Kerr and I talked to Bob Meyer the GM and you know people like myself in a way I mean anybody that is more passionate sometimes we do go over the edge a

Little bit you know it’s uh but if you ask them would they want to trade them I don’t think they’d ever want to trade him you know right he he is one of the alltime I mean I am the luckiest human being on the planet you know I coached

Matin Cleves and and I coached draymont green and I did not coach but he’s from here and he’s still around a lot in Magic Johnson and there’s a lot of great players but I’m not not sure there’s as many great winners who can take average teams or

Good teams and be the difference in winning you know a lot of people make great plays how many people make winning plays like Raymond’s toss back to step and that illegal screen he kind of sometimes sets and moves a little bit those are winning plays and he didn’t

Even take the shot right and I think that’s what’s not appreciate the toughness the rebounding that he can guard a LeBron and he can guard a seven-footer you know Draymond is do I wish once in a while yeah he probably wishes once in a while I wouldn’t be like I am you know

But um would I trade him for the world no and by the way I didn’t keep under wraps I just I just that was back in the day when huddles weren’t filmed yeah because he was still as crazy in those huddles it’s just that nobody got to see

Him back then you know but yeah but I I I absolutely love him he’s he’s a versatile player he is you know those guys that say they don’t care the only thing he cared about was rebounding and when he had nine because he always wanted a double double he knew he had

Nine and he’d come to the bench and in the Huddle he’d say not one of you guys grab the next rebound I’m getting it just cut your guy out I’m getting it we’re on a free throw situation I’m getting it yeah and and I would sit

There and say is that selfish hell no I loved it I thought that was absolutely awesome and that’s draymont you know he’s he put winning he puts winning above scoring even rebounding assist more than I think any player I’ve ever coached you know it was guys like him or cleeves they’d come

Into the locker room never look at the stat sheet they just look at the W or the L yeah and people can say that and not a lot of people that do it yeah cares which is nice like you do want a person that cares that deeply about

Winning on your team I think it was John Thompson Big John Thompson said at one point like one guy like that on your team you can win a championship two guys like that you might get fired yeah you know and I mean I’m I’m not saying

There’s times I don’t call him and say Dre what are we doing you know and and once in a while he’ll even agree with me not very often but once in a while but but you know I I really I don’t think as good as Steph

And clay and all the other I don’t think they would have won the Championships without him no just does all the little dirty work that makes a difference in the end and uh and for that uh I know one thing if you had eligibility left

I’d take them back I deal with you know there’s there’s always going to be an issue or two and do I wish like do I wish last night he wouldn’t have got thrown out of the game yeah I wish he wouldn’t have got thrown out of the game

But I don’t know everything that happened in the game either there were some things back in the day that happened with LeBron and that I’m not were all draymond’s fault either you know but you get an image it’s like being the fifth angriest guy or whatever

You called me right you get an image and then it precedes you and that’s not always right either I also think Draymond like some nights he’s just like I want to hit the showers early that felt like one of those nights he’s like I’m good you know what you know what I

Haven’t done any of this with you guys yet I disagree with you I did not know many nights that he doesn’t want to play All 48 minutes I don’t know last night last night was like four minutes he was like I’m done so I I would agree with

You most of the time but last night I was like he really just wants to go home my theory is that he wants sometimes he wants things to talk about on his podcast so he’ll do stuff on the game and then he’ll be like people are going to definitely listen to my podcast

Tomorrow if I’m talking about getting kicked out yeah definitely smart guy he’s a bu right I hope not but you might be right so so and yeah I am a big Draymond fan I think his basketball IQ is so off the charts that people like they don’t realize what he’s able to do

Without actually like the where the space and and defensively being like a coach who else though have you coached that you would say is underrated that people don’t fully realize how talented he was whether it be actual stats or on the floor being a general for you well

Caves was the best I had I mean because he you know Irvin magic said this great players play great but elite players make other players play great and that is the true Mark of an elite player player to me who can make other people around them better than they actually are cleeves was

Phenomenal at that he was very good at that I mean draymont when he was here did some of that I had a kid named Valentine who was pretty good at that believe it or not in a whole different way a whole different guy cashes Winston

I mean he wouldn’t even take a shot for a half he’d just be making everybody else better and then I say I okay can can we win the game now you know can you make some shots yeah did at a very high level and yet wasn’t the gifted athlete

He wasn’t 65 he you know maybe under appreciated and and then you know even a guy like Jason Richardson believe it or not who had this gifted athleticism in that he was a very humble and and very uh caring guy that I mean he didn’t start his freshman year and that’s like

An American not to start a guy that was that good but uh it was of the team we had and uh Zach Randol went through the same thing and you know everybody said this and that about Zach I absolutely loved having Zach I mean he was he was

Really good and a and a really good teammate and you know that’s maybe guys we don’t judge people on enough how hard they play what they do to make others better and what kind of teammate are they I would promise you and I don’t know I don’t I’m not with the

Organization but I’m I’m betting that he’s an draymond’s an incredible teammate you know he’s an incredible teammate that’s making a name for himself jiren Jackson just an incredible teammate and good guy and a very good player yeah yeah uh coach your relationship with the media has been

Kind of interesting over the years uh on this show I think it was back in 2016 we said at some point the media is going to turn a little bit on Tom ISO and you know the the media it’s like a big cycle it’s like a pendulum that

Swings back and forth at some point you’re like okay this coach is underrated and then once you start winning enough if you haven’t won enough recently they say Tomo is overrated now you might be back to being underrated again so I can you judge yourself are you overrated or underrated as a head

Coach well I think you’re always overrated because whether we like it or not and again you can say humility it’s not a humility um players play the game you know players play the game and and you got to have good players and you got

To have a good culture and and so if I was overrated in if I was underrated something maybe people don’t look at the culture you develop and that takes years and the culture is what is good but like I haven’t been happy I wasn’t happy with our performance I said right out we’re

We under achieve this year and I I said why you know and I can I can name you seven games that we either LED or were right down to the wire on and we lost and usually you win some of those this year we didn’t we lost them if you win

If you win half of them you you win 24 games and you’re a four seed and everybody’s happy you know but really your team’s know better because you only won by a couple of points and uh so you know I I think I have a good relationship with the media guys most of

The time and I’ll tell you why it was my old boss Jud Heath coot and uh who coached magic and and I was a ga on his staff and it’s my second year here they were talking about firing Jud and uh so I’m I’m reading these articles that’s

When I read the paper I don’t do that anymore but I’m reading these articles they’re talking about firing them and once a week we had open for the media and so the media came watch practice and after practice judge telling his dirty jokes to him you know like he always

Dead he’s got his arm around two guys and he’s walking across and I’m ticked off I said coach that guy just ripped you today once you fired and I said what are you doing you know my dumb ass from the up I didn’t know you know what what

Was going on and and he said I’m going to tell you something if you want to survive in this profession everybody’s got Mouse to feed and everybody’s got a boss to please he said those guys do too some of them are good guys that just have to do what they

Have to do because that’s the way it is and so I’ve always appreciated that if I don’t like something somebody says most of the time I’ll call them and say hey you’re off base on this here’s why they might tell me why they think what’s getting harder guys is with Twitter I

Mean let’s face it everybody’s attacking you or anybody in the media yeah you know they’re they’re attacking them on what they should think and say and then those guys give into it and then they go to us you know I I have pracs open once a week too

I I kept the tradition because I thought that way the media could see you know don’t hide nothing I’ve never closed my locker room ever ever never so I think they appreciate that but uh I appreciate them I just wish that somehow they could understand what’s going on each and

Every day now because the world has changed a little bit in the last three years fact quite a bit yeah yeah I so perspective and and you’re talking a little bit about like the nil era and the portal era of college basketball are you going to be in the portal this

Offseason I might I might you know uh my wife tried to go in it and she realized the buyout would been too high so she didn’t jump it but uh you know I mean it is what it is I mean you know what I’ve had feelings about it that I I don’t I

Don’t like it um I’ve said it especially the uh especially the the portal and um and the reasons why and yet uh you know what When in Rome do like the Romans you know we we don’t have a choice we we play with the cards we dealt and I’ve

Said this on many of shows and I’ve said it many of times and I I won’t say a lot about it because it always gets me in trouble but I will say this at the end of the day the majority of kids players I think are going to lose

Out now there’ll be a few that it works out for but the majority I mean we’re going to have over 2,000 in the in the portal yeah and guys are now going at two and three and even four times where are they going to have to go back to

Later on what you love Wisconsin would you love Wisconsin if you went to Wisconsin Illinois Michigan State and Northwestern right your four career would you love Wisconsin um I don’t know you know that’s yet to be seen but I I honestly believe that uh I think a lot of players

Are going to make bad decisions and not learn how to fight through some times I mean if I told you how many guys would have left here after one year in my career I’d have to count him on 27 hands right know right and it just part of the

Deal and now those same guys are my biggest Advocates you know and had the most fun so there’s always a time to transfer guys every place isn’t for everybody but the way we’ve made it so easy I think is going to be detrimental to the player more than it is the coach

And coaches are GNA lose their jobs I mean that but that’s okay because as some people say we make a lot of money um and we do but we have a lot of responsibility work a lot of hours too yeah I’m hoping uh as a diard fan of college sports that it’s

Kind of a pendulum swing that you know for the longest time the transfer rules were like bad they were bad where kids had to sit out a year and like you could like they they were too restrictive then the pendulum is swung where it’s too you know there’s a little too much freedom

To sit out a year yeah um but remember now 1% are going to the NBA or NFL right did you hear me 1% that means 99% of the kids need their degrees so it is a shame that we’re punishing a guy by making him go to

School a year and sit out and maybe get stronger maybe get better maybe get smarter maybe get ahead academically and maybe when he’s done with four years he actually graduates because 90 in basketball I think it’s 96% are never going to play again you know there’s 4% in basketball they can

Play in Europe and G league and Canada and football there I guess now there’s a new league so maybe they’ll get up 2% of play but most of those kids are ever going to play again and are we really punishing them by telling them they gotta sit out and get better and get

Smarter and get their academics on track and I I I know some guys that set up for me I had a kid Morris Peterson that would have never been a pro yeah if it wasn’t for the fifth year so I understand you know the modern day I I

Agree with you but there’s unintended consequences to a lot of these things and I’m going to do what they said I’m done bitching about it I’m just going to do my job but I’m just telling you the majority of kids aren’t gon to have a place to go to yeah they transferred

Three and four times and and we agree because I actually think the pendulum swung too far where it’s now too easy and and guys are are you know the first time first moment of hardship they’re like I’m out there’s I’m hoping that we’ll find a balance somewhere in the

Next few years where it we kind of level back to a spot where people can have the freedom of movement but there’s also a lot more guys staying sticking it out and it’s better for the school it’s better for the fans it’s better for the

Player like I I do think that there is that middle ground that we hopefully will find yeah like I think if a Coach leaves you know that a player should be able to I mean you know You’ like to say they go for this school but you know I

Understand that part and yet uh don’t think like some people that coaches can just leave when they want either I mean I’ve had my times when I was offered jobs that I would have cost me seven eight million dollars to buy out you know so I mean it’s it’s

Kind of I don’t know and and you know I struggle with that too when people say well coach can well like I put in 40 years here right should you be able to do something different than somebody that just started it yesterday I mean to me you should but yeah but I ain’t

Arguing it no more guys I lost that battle that train is left and you’re adapting job yeah you’re adapting all right so coach this has been awesome I have one last question it’s a rowback question rhob bac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase qips polos hoodies joggers shorts rack.com talking

About this tournament I know we’re going to run this tomorrow so four of the sweet 16 games will already been played but from your perspective you played a lot of these teams you obviously played Purdue a bunch you uh I think you played Alabama last year you played Arizona

This year Duke this year like who do you think is the is the is the team that you’re looking at and you’re like this team has everything and they’re they’re playing the ball that will get them to the final four and to cut the Nets down well we just played North Carolina too

And uh I was impressed with some of the pieces they have um and I don’t want to be prejudiced to produce since they’re in the league but when you got a center and that that Smith kid has really played well and then they got Shooters like lawyer and uh Gillis has become a

Very good shooter I have not seen Houston in person I know Kelvin and I know I I’ve seen some of their personnel and anybody that’s as tough as that I think has a chance we played Arizona early we played Duke early we played you know Illinois is another team that has

Actually come on yeah but uh I think Purdue has the best chance because of what happened to him last year they’ve got the best rallying point and they’ve got a player of the year and to deal with him on a second day is hard it’ll be interesting to see how

They do whe they play tonight or tomorrow night I guess it is they got Gonzaga tomorrow that I think yep um but you know I think if I looked at four or five teams Carolina’s got to be one of them um Arizona’s got to be Purdue’s

Gotta be it sounds like it’s just the one seeds um who would be and Yukon yukon’s just been rolling yeah Yukon right now um from what I’ve seen is the best overall team and it’ll be a hell of a battle if it’s them and Purdue and then you you take a a

Houston I mean they can beat you different ways they can score a lot of points or they could beat you 3935 I swear they can I mean they can tighten the screws down and uh so those would be the top five or six teams that doesn’t

Mean a team like Alabama who shoots 100 threes might be hot and win a game uh it doesn’t mean that gona and the job Mark F has done couldn’t work out you know I don’t know uh there’s a lot of there’s a hey right now the one thing I do know

About this tournament the last two three years flip a coin yeah something strange is gonna happen yeah probably probably teams that you thought would get out of tonight aren’t going to get out teams that tomorrow night aren’t going to get out and yet uh some years it’s chalk and

Everybody gets there you know I think one year we’re in a final four with three ones and a two that’s OD you know we’ve been a seven and been in the final four so I don’t know guys I’m not the expert I’m not gambling on it but you

Guys can be and you you guys have been great I appreciate you having me on I maybe uh who knows maybe we’ll do it again as the tournament goes since since I have some unfortunate off time right now yeah and we have to have you next

Time you’re in Chicago we’d love to have you come by the office cuz we have a full court basketball court we’d actually would be great if you if you took us through the ward drill that’s what we should do yeah he cuz you can do

It with us we’ll sign a waiver yeah you want you you’ll sign a waiver I can I can uh have the Bears send over some football pads we’ll get added a little bit my I know my son’s a big fan of yours so I I’ll make sure that I bring

Him with me and we’ll do that you guys have a great day good tournament and congratulations to your son for the three points that was an alltime moment that was an all time moment I mean that was what I love about college basketball like you get guys who they do work and

They you know they’re with the team and they’re they’re putting in work they’re not getting the time and uh yeah that was really cool we also next year you’ll you’ll be part of birthday week because you and I share a birthday and pfts the day after us so uh we’ll yeah we’ll

We’ll have you come out and do it would be an all-time visual because you can you can run the Wardrobe we’re not soft coach we’re tough you see see I’ve been blogging for 15 years I got calluses yeah those badges man you know after a middle of the Year slump there but they

They really came on at the end I thought they were going to make a run and they run into the same team that we did the first year yeah JMU who was pretty good team shout out JM pretty great team that’s my that’s my team coach I ref I

Held myself back for making a JMU commentary JMU guy I’m a JMU guy yeah it was a well let me tell you my nephew was on the staff there that shows you how dumb I am I played him and got beat so you know what Thanksgiving meal is going

To be like I’m throw at my son my nephew I love it I love it it was a great game for me yeah well they were good yeah they were really good I mean everybody thought ours was a fluke until they won about 30 something games now you lost

Your coach he went in the portal I know it’s tough it’s tough that’s that’s life as a mid- major though you go to you’re you’re a great stepping stone but being a stepping stone kind of sucks sometimes yeah yeah well coach guys yeah you were great thank you so much hopefully we see

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Your first month that’s betterhelp hp.com PMT to get 10% off your first month okay let’s wrap up with some firefest Hank firefest of the week I actually have a reverse firest I there’s no no no specific firest stick out and Ice Fest an Ice Fest uh there’s

A bit of that going around just a a great sign for the spring and summer it happened twice this week where I’ve found sunglasses from last summer in old pair of coats that’s huge huge one one wouldn’t be notable but it happened twice basically in the same week where I

Put on like a windbreaker reached in the pocket found a pair of sunglasses I thought was gone forever that’s great it is that time of year where you can you go back to like the light windbreakers and you’re in like a time portal you find like a time capsule back to I guess

Early last fall you realize how young and dumb and stupid you were so yeah reverse fire there’s nothing better than finding sunglass because you just when you once you once a pair goes away you’re like I’ll never see these again yeah yeah and you don’t know where they

Went but you can’t remember you know the last time you wore them my problem with sunglasses too is I always try to have like two or three pair in rotation yep but then you don’t treat them like they’re the most important thing so then you get down to having none that’s I had

Three I knew I lost one I knew I left one uh in Nashville after a bachelor party like I knew those were gone forever that was a good bachelor party for you good bachelor party for me uh and then the other two I just didn’t

Know you know they were lost in the wind but I was like [ __ ] I went from three to zero how did this happen yeah back up to two I I conservatively estimate that I’ve lost like $5,000 worth of sunglasses are they going to say 5,000

Pair yeah I did too well no I’m I’m counting in the ones that are free like the ones that are that like from Shady rays and by the way Shady Rays does have a deal where if you lose them you can get a new pair which is awesome is best

Yeah I’ve probably lost 5,000 pairs but $5,000 total worth of sunglasses just in the last seven years yeah I would I you you I mean I don’t know how you do it because like I use sunglasses basically just exclusively in my car yeah and having to have them on Deck all the time

That’s [ __ ] tough I find them in very strange places but it has been nice the last couple years not having to like if I go somewhere for work not having a pair of sunglasses being like [ __ ] I have to stop by a store and buy sung GL

Yeah yeah yeah uh okay PF your firefest that’s a good reverse firest reverse fire Fest yeah um my fire Fest is last night SL this morning I passed another kidney stone it’s been a while for that uh I don’t I think I’ve gotten rid of

All my Stones by now I have to I know that you had one big cat a few years ago yeah on uh vitamin C yeah yeah I had one about two weeks after big cat had one which makes me think that it was something that we were eating or

Drinking together um they gave it to us but I had like 13 kidney stones when they did the scan of my kidney and they were all really small so they didn’t have to like go up there and shoot it with the lasers that they do sometimes so they’re just like yeah just

So you know you’re going to be pissing out kidney stones for the next I don’t know six months a year but um I had another one was it was it painful or was it just the rock coming out of your penis and you’re like what the [ __ ] was

That the rock coming out of my penis is not the painful part so the painful part is when it goes from your kidney to your bladder right and that’s the really small tube my my urethra is a a cavern compared to yeah that you do have a wide

C I do have a well I’ve got not a great penis but I’ve got a huge urethra imagine if that was like hey hey babe like yeah it’s not it’s not long it’s not big but the [ __ ] hole is wide I’ve got a massive hole if I I could

Take a a closeup picture of my penis hole and people wouldn’t know I’d be like fellas how many beers and dudes would get horny online not knowing what it was you have a vagina on the tip of your penis I’m a docking man’s dream

Yeah uh so yeah that that sucked but I I woke up this morning I was sweating back hurt the whole thing uh but it’s gone now so I’m happy that it’s gone but I hope it’s the last one but I yeah I think that’s about a Baker’s Dozen

Kidney stones piss through my dick yeah m i mean mine was was a one-off hopefully knock on wood because it was when I was in in some Bro Science and I was like I think I was trying to fight off covid with just vitamin C and I took

Like a bunch of vitamin C tablets and and the emergency and then I just started pissing like electric orange and then a rock came out and it hurts so bad it hurts it hurts bad yeah but but it’s also that’s the most relieving part is

When it comes out yeah uh but yeah my my dick’s seen some [ __ ] what can I said my dick’s basically been to War uh thank you for IT service yeah you’re welcome you’re welcome so that’s my firefest I I feel like that’s a a solid firefest

Whenever I have one it’s like okay I know what I’m going to talk about on Thursday because Jesus that is painful stuff uh all right my firefest is uh not well it’s not it is my firest but it’s my kids are on spring break and every

Morning uh this week I’ve had to explain to them that today is not dut day because they don’t have school so they automatically assume it’s dut day it’s like Pavlov’s dog it really sucks having to break it to him I it even got worse this morning cuz my daughter woke up and

She’s like is it dut day and I was like no it’s not she’s like is it Halloween and I was like nope so they were just like thinking like every day that they’re not in school they’re like well something special has to happen is Santa here yeah they were just like and I’m

Like no I’m sorry to break it to you it’s Thursday Max Jake and I went to dve and Busters yesterday oh yeah just for fun uh and it was a scene yes it was like the the most packed Club I’ve ever been in yes yeah my wife took my son to

The uh Children’s Museum she said it was the craziest scene ever because everyone’s on spring break right now yeah children’s the aquarium is probably popping off right now popping off but yeah it’s been tough having to break it to a four and a half-year-old and a two

And a halfy old being like today is not donut day is it’s it’s sad it breaks my heart every single time in a few years no Halloween was brutal yeah I guess it takes a couple years but what six or seven that’s when you start to appreciate weeks off from school right

Right cuz they like they kid still like school right now but yeah the no Halloween and then my son chimed in and was like Halloween’s next week and I was like God damn it guys we got to get on this schedule thing like we got a ways

To go yeah that’s that’s a very funny way to grow up though like every day that I don’t have school I get nuts yeah right that’s exactly what they assume or something special has is about to happen nope it’s Thursday uh speaking of the aquarium what the [ __ ] is going on with

A pregnant Stingray I don’t know still hasn’t given birth oh that that [ __ ] was RG3’s baby that [ __ ] was never pregnant yeah you see just became a dad who Puck Aon Phil really groundhog [ __ ] I guess so I thought it lived in that tree stump all year long in the list of

Like animals I’d want to see [ __ ] I think uh groundhogs are very low oh I’d say high really I would love to see ground so much fur it’s like two pillows [ __ ] two throw pillows they’ve got they’ve got the cute little buck teeth they’re probably chat R while they do

That watching a turtle [ __ ] is wild yeah it is when they scream yeah he welcomed two babies two he had twins I guess wait Phil yeah wait he had the baby or he’s a dad oh yeah they if if they if if they made Phil a woman I’ll I’ll join

Everyone who’s been red pilled and been like our society’s going to [ __ ] you can’t do that I guess Phil came early this year yeah God damn it okay so he’s got two kids yeah two baby groundhogs he’s not going to get any sleep he’s going to do a bad job of [ __ ] telling

Us if it’s winter or not how are they going to decide which one of his his kids becomes the next groundhog I don’t know they got to fight to the death yeah yeah they the first time in 138 years that Phil’s had a kid yeah how old is

Phil I don’t know I’m going to send you guys the article there’s got to be multiple Phils yeah by the way little correction even though I don’t I I I’ll still stand with my take that flacko the owl was a [ __ ] uh big time [ __ ] uh I

Guess the pigeon herpes might have been because he was eating pigeons yeah that’s that good explanation Flo uhhuh yeah yeah eating their [ __ ] hey hey babe I have no idea where these herpes came from must have been necrophiliac yeah yeah must so wait he was probably going

Down on the pigeons that’s what I’m saying yeah he’s eating their [ __ ] so I I I’m sticking with fullon [ __ ] shaming of Flaco you were a [ __ ] that’s how you got the herpes that’s how your brain got worms that’s how you die very convenient Flo hotkey Flo Phil and Phyllis what Phyllis

Is Phil’s baby mom oh so he’s got Phyllis I like that okay I S you guys the article okay I’m going to I’m going to see are they married is it out of w oh there’s nothing I like more than when a zoo does a wedding for two other animals yeah Phil and

Phyllis those are also the names of uh retro Phillies mascots oh [ __ ] you remember when DeBlasio dropped the the the the what is it a hedgehog no all no uh DeBlasio the Hedgehog went missing no no no it wasn’t it wasn’t a hedgehog he dropped it what what do Punk ton Phil

He’s he’s on all galib pull up DeBlasio deasio dropped a groundhog on its head and it died like a day later they got rid of the groundhog yeah no it died he just [ __ ] dropped a groundhog that doesn’t get talked about enough groundhogs live up to six years in the

Wild but punksatony groundhog Club I want to be a member of that club has previously stated Phil’s longevity comes from taking a sip of the elixir of life every at the groundhog picnic the secret recipe magically gives him seven more years of life they’re just giving him

Easy F trades he’s G he’s giving him didy pink cocaine wait so they’re saying that this this is Dune yeah I never seen Dune we’ve been told that this is the same Phil for 138 years and that it’s a magic groundhog That Never Dies they’re killing groundhogs left and right yeah

Wait wait get the video I want to see the video he dropped a groundhog and and the groundhog died like a day later you can you can probably just search for videos of it you I don’t know why you had to use Twitter okay Sydney Sweeney yeah probably doing the Sydney Sweeney thing

Yeah no this isn’t it Max oh oh it is okay so he’s got brown hog yeah he just drops it oh my god dude you got to hold it and then the groundhog died got a concussion was dead the next day and then it yeah they put it in the blue

Shed [ __ ] deasio what a jerk all right that was groundh hard talk find you a Hberman in no time so yeah it’s it was very hard but for three those are the slowest 3 minutes I’ve ever had yeah so did did you feel did you feel like a man when you got out yeah it feels really good when you get out but that moment of

Dunk of your head oh boy yeah I of all the people that I thought would be a cold plunge guy I think Jake was last on my list of people that I thought be doing this but it’s a good way just CS out uhhuh yeah get that tea up yeah it’s

Been a busy month I’ve still not gone to cold plunge world I’ve done it a few times actually I’ve done it once but that was at a gym and I don’t think it was like fully cold it was like the cold bath at a gym it’s great for uh for a

Hangover yeah you go hot cold hot cold and then your body is just so confused that it can’t be hung over anymore yeah I used to do it before it was cool oh really yeah we used to do it for baseball back in college do you guys

Know I went to a training facility when I was in college and Biz was all so at that training facility at the same same time doing what like for like a month who’s that worse for uh definitely Biz definitely I was a college kid he

Was I remember I was like oh yeah that guy plays in the NHL and then he was like always cracking jokes and like the yoga and stuff that we had to do uhhuh and then it ended up being Biz yeah it’s crazy that is crazy W Biz walks into an

Elite athletic training facility he’s like yeah I’m an NHL player I got to get my body right and then Max is just there farting too so is the whole nine yards max how many times did you get tagged in that tweet the other day of the guy

Who’s like whoever’s eating a burrito on the plane we can all smell it yeah I mean that’s all my mentions are for anything I I saw it was just like Max probably got tagged a million times is pug out of the vet nope Pug’s still in

The vet okay is he is he gonna have a cone on next week I don’t know he’s got one he’s got one arm shaved yeah uh all right numbers eight 40 20 3 77 18 we dance Max we’re dancing 38 38 love you guys

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  1. PFT needs to fact check. David Rubenstein did not buy the Magna Carta. He bought a replica and donated it to some museum.

  2. The best episode ever, I may be biased. Glad more people get to see Izzo the man vs Izzo the coach, he doesnt do a lot of media stuff like this. Go Green.

  3. Not the day for Izzo boys. Will listen tomorrow after my Broncos take down the Spartans in hockey.

  4. As a lifelong Tom Izzo and Michigan State fan, I love the fact that everyone gets to see this side of Iz, because he is one of the great people in the game of basketball today

  5. Izzo means more to Spartans fans then what most people realize. This dude is our childhoods and is in all of our core memories. He’s the kindest dude possible, he sat next to my brother during a high school game and enjoyed taking pictures with all the kids at the school, there was a line out the door.

  6. Izzo is the perfect basketball football guy. Been waiting for him on the show for a while because he’s the perfect match for this show. Hoping he does more of this in the future

  7. Not even a Michigan State fan but loved this Izzo interview. Seems like a great dude and was an awesome interview. Get him in person

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