NFL Reaction: Jim Harbaugh’s mind games, Deion Sanders issues, Aaron Rodgers washed? | Colin Cowherd

Colin Cowherd and ‘3 & Out’ host John Middlekauff discuss the biggest stories from around the NFL. Is there more to Jim Harbaugh’s heavy praise for J.J. McCarthy than their Michigan connection? Will Brian Daboll and the New York Giants or Sean Payton’s Denver Broncos draft a quarterback in the NFL Draft? And is Deion Sanders putting too much pressure on his son following his recent comments about Shedeur Sanders and the NFL Draft? Later, Colin and John discuss if Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears are NFL Playoff contenders, the Shohei Ohtani gambling allegations, and whether Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets are in for a disappointing season in 2024.

Timeline:
00:00 – Start
06:50 – Why Jim Harbaugh is praising J.J. McCarthy
08:40 – Giants or Broncos drafting a QB?
18:55 – Is Deion Sanders hurting Shedeur’s draft stock?
22:27 – NFL rule changes
29:17 – Are Bears a playoff team?
36:21 – NFL Draft talk
46:17 – Shohei Ohtani
56:00 – Is Aaron Rodgers washed?

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Welcome to the official YouTube channel for the Colin coward podcast go on hit the Subscribe button there you go right down there if you want to be among the first to hear my weekly takes NFL college football more right There all right a day later but never a dollar short John middleof former NFL scout we do our uh 50 minutes to an hour chop it up and even though this is the NFL’s off season there’s all sorts of news going on draft Kings released its

NFL win totals there’s a couple of weird ones uh God did kurk cousins get respect the Falcons are 10 and a half that is ultimately Vegas and DraftKings telling you Kirk Cousins is a very good capable quarterback in this league 10 and a half by the way is the same number for Josh

Allen in the bills and Joe burrow and the Bengals and Tua and Mike McDaniels so I think it’s funny there’s just there’s certain people in every industry that are way more respected than the public understands Sean middleof the former NFL scout three and out that of all the DraftKings unders and overs

Falcons 10 and a half was like holy crap and most I mean they do have a good old line for Kirk but I think Kirk Cousins is way more respected in the league than he is outside of the league well think about it the previous year right they won 13 games they were

In the playoffs they started slow this year but they were coming on he was playing his best football that they would have been a clear factor to make a wild card I mean he’s proven I mean if he’s healthy and the team solid he’s a playoff might not win in the playoffs

But he can get you there which let’s face it 90% of owners would sign up for an heartbeat just to be you know playing football in the middle of January I think people you know obviously you want to win the Super Bowl all these teams just want to make the playoffs in

Football a lot like March Madness it’s not a seven game scenario the Giants were not as good as Minnesota two years ago but they beat them and they played in the second round and they got their breaks beat off by The Eagles you just

Got to get to the dance and then we saw the Giants win two Super Bowls as as wild card teams they they they Wi on the road football is kind of unique that way and also to give you a double shot of Kirk Cousins value the Vikings despite a

Loaded offensive roster uh I think what’s considered one of the sharper offensive coaches the Vikings are only a sixth and a half win team well that’s Kirk Cousins and we both like Sam darnold athletically but they’re they’re telling you there’s a gap of like three to four games between Kirk Cousins and

Sam darnold so if you just look at the over unders on the Falcons 10 and a half Vikings six and a half and we know the coach with Minnesota in an offensive pivoting league is a really effective coach won a game without a practice with

Josh dos the Vikings are one of the more talented teams in the league offensively six and a half wins so that that doubles down on cousins is bued inside analytics Vegas DraftKings the league much higher value than everybody outside of the league well of all the guys right not

Making huge money or a young player who’s going to ascend to make a lot of money like a CJ Stroud Sam darnold either is going to set himself up to be a starting quarterback for the foreseeable future if he has a good year and he’s successful or he’s just going

To be a lifetime backup I mean that’s because he’s GNA get judged I mean even if they end up drafting JJ McCarthy he’s going to start it’d be hard for that guy to beat him out come week one uh but if he plays well and they’re definitely

People to play well with right at wide receiver but if it does not go well like his his days have ever being discussed anymore and I’m I’d be done holding on as well not that I have much stock but I haven’t sold it all I feel the same way

So jmck on our show today that heard FS1 brought up a really interesting point he’s very good at this because he’s got a lot of contacts with agents and stuff so here’s Jim Harbaugh just continually saying JJ McCarthy’s the best player in the draft I mean this guy is

Unbelievable well as he brought up today Minnesota is poised to move up every rumor on every board as Minnesota’s moving up they’ve accumulated two first picks well they don’t want to move up to first second or third probably because then you’d have to give up multiple ones

You know for a college player um but you could move up to five with the Chargers and probably get JJ McCarthy because we we don’t believe unless the Giants move up spots to go to Arizona spot it really is very nobody Chicago’s not giving up their pick I don’t think Washington’s

Given up their pick now New England’s open for business at three but I I think there’s some misgivings with Jaden Daniel’s size um some of his style of play to put him up in New England in that weather my guess is and so J Max said what they’re doing basically is

Harbaugh saying how great McCarthy is because if you like JJ McCarthy he’d be a reach at one two or three but at five if he is a reach it’s not a hug huge reach if he’s projected to be 9 10 11 12 and all Harbaugh is doing is saying oh

This guy’s great he wants you to spend more to get his fifth pick and I thought yeah that’s exactly what he’s doing right well Adam Peters told the local guys today they’re not open for business they’ve listened but they were never for bus that’s Washington’s GM I I do think

The Patriots saying that here’s the problem for the Chargers ideally they would love to do that deal right 1123 maybe next year’s two big Hall kind of help reset their roster Monty Austin Fort the Arizona Cardinals GM said we have flashing lights open for business right flashing

Lights gerod Mayo said within the last 24 hours we’re open for business too if if teams trade up before the Chargers it takes two to tango teams often say hey we wanted to move back or we wanted to move forward we we couldn’t get a yes on

The other end of the line what if quarterbacks and teams trade either the Patriots take a guy or trade back and the Giants and the Vikings take three and four what happens to the Chargers if they get stuck there because I I have a hard time Colin envisioning them and I

Know these wide receivers are viewed very highly and I know they just got rid of two Google Jim Harbaugh’s history and his GM just came from the Ravens they they would much more be inclined to take a lineman that’s more their style high in the draft but they already have a

Left tackle Googling alt he’s only played on the left side I think it’s a little Rich for the Oregon State guy who’s more of right tackle potentially they already have two defensive linen but you could always take a defensive lineman I don’t think there’s a guy

Viewed as a number five overall pick in this draft at that spot they could get stuck pretty quickly now they could just take a wide receiver do you envision a Ravens GM and Jim Harbaugh taking a wide receiver with a fifth overall pick I I

Can’t so I I have envisioned if they got if the Chargers got Minnesota’s picks and it was two firsts my first thing I envisioned would be they move back to like what is it 11 or 12 what are the Vikings 11 it’s 11 my takeaway is that they would take the

Oregon State tackle at 11 maybe a bit high but he’s a Bruiser and they could also use him on the interior if their issues and then I think their second pick would be a defensive tackle from like Texas or one of the big interior linemen right tackle defensive tackle

And I’m like that’s exactly the how and then they’d go get a center they got two fourth round picks they’re going to get a center of the third or the fourth round that’s what that’s what Jim wants to do he wants to get big you know George Young the legendary Giants GM

Used to Osa went in doubt go big that hard that’s how Harbaugh and Baltimore and the Harbaugh is draft they just go big a lot hell I can make an argument Z flowers is the first home run wide receiver hit that Lamar Jackson’s had where you’re I mean Odell didn’t make any

Impact Mark Andrews has been really the star of the receiving game so yeah I’m with you and and they took him in the 20 right the the Ravens the hodas those types they take higher Ronnie Stanley Z flowers are are they taking even though Malik neighbors and romad dunes are

Viewed as top 10 Marvin Harrison I I just I have a really hard time now maybe Marvin Harrison he’s seen him up close and personal maybe he feels very comfortable with that player but I can’t imagine that’s what they want to do but I can already Envision them getting

Stuck because if if a quarterback goes one two 3 four whether that’s trade UPS obviously Arizona have to trade back but let’s say the Patriots even stay there what if there’s no one to trade with the Chargers well yeah you I I so today the New York Giants the mara family said um

That they can draft a quarterback at number six the mara said they’re they’re they will allow the GM and the coach if they think it’s necessary nice of nice of them to say you can draft a quarterback so I I think they will I could see the Giants actually um you

Know my guess I don’t know if I’d do Jaden Daniels in that weather I I would much rather have so I don’t we both agree it’s going to go Caleb Drake May one and two do we agree with that pisaro said today from the league meetings that

He’s heard a lot of JJ McCarthy with Adam Peters and when you think of Adam Peters history right even recently they won a lot with Jimmy garoo and then they had immediate success with Brock pie now obviously these two guys are two of the best I mean Brady’s the best player ever

And pton Manning’s a top five quarterback was around those guys in Denver and then New England so prototypical and the one guy that he completely whiffed on with the group was Trey Lance so I wonder if they’re more inclined I I heard Drake May forever but

Then when I saw that I I don’t think that’s just getting thrown around because if JJ could go four what the hell’s the difference of taking him two if people like him at four or five it’s not crazy to think someone would like him at two right it’s the same pick

Essentially so tell you either think the guy’s a starting quarterback in a high level or not here’s as a former NFL scout with the Eagles take me inside so I I got into this thing today I said Denver is in a weird spot so are the Raiders Gardner muu and

Aiden oconnell can’t be the future in that division all right but what if you have B Knicks at let’s say 24 your Scouts say we think he’s the 24 best player do I take him now it’s quarterback and I do believe I’m willing to reach at pass rusher or quarterback

Receiver I won’t because there’s a glut of talent there’s not a glut of receiver or quarterback Talent annually in this league Max Crosby fifth round is a complete outlier Brady and the sixth round outlier yeah so what do you do if your scouting Department says listen we

We have him like 24 25 and we’ve got the 11th or the 12th pick them Denver I’m the Raiders and and and I mean what do you do what what’s the discussion in the draft room I saw a quote today from Joe Shane the the Giants GM and he said what makes

It very unique at the quarterback position and Chris Balor talked about this forever right everyone always wanted me to take a quarterback well if I don’t like the guy at pick 18 or 15 or 20 just because he’s quote unquote falling it’s not a defensive lineman or

A wide receiver or a defensive back that I can mix in he can just ultimately become my nickel corner or you know he didn’t turn out to be a tackle but he can be my guard or he can be my run stuffing defensive tackle even if it

Clearly was the wrong pick he can still quarterback’s bat’s awful and he just doesn’t play so I I think it gets very tricky about just because a guy quote unquote falling guys that falling and then are picked it’s because that when Aaron Rogers fell to the Packers they

Liked him a lot same with Jordan love right he felt other teams didn’t like him but they valued him and they took him so I think of a quarterback is quot you know if Bo Nick’s there in the mid- teenss you either like the player or you

Don’t at that value and if you don’t you you know if you’re unsure I would never pick the quarterback because because that’s where you get in these positions where you’re kind of stuck where even these other the Chargers wide receiver last year was a disaster what you don’t

It’s like well we maybe we figure something out maybe he becomes our third wide receiver maybe there are a couple things he can do well for at quarterback he either can play or he can’t and that’s why JJ McCarthy I I looked at some of their athletic testing numbers

Alex Smith was taller I think there are a lot of similarities with Alex Smith and once Alex got real coaching Andy and harb he was a really solid Court never Josh Allen or Mahomes but he was damn good you could make the playoffs with

And I think and just because a guy has a high physical ceiling Jaden Daniels there’s no guarantee so you have to like the guy and then you have to be able to everyone puts the comps always like this guy’s the next Patrick Mahomes I’ve been watching football for 30 years I’ve seen

One Patrick Mahomes remember remember when Draymond was drafted for five straight years like this guy’s going to be the next Draymond there hasn’t been a Draymond since but no one ever wants to comp like you know what this guy might be Alex Smith because everyone always

Wants the guy to be a higher in in the first round you can do that with mid- round picks but no one ever comps like yeah I think this guy’s a third wide receiver well we’re taking the guy at 20 like that’s a problem so I I I think you

Got to be very careful with quarterbacks high in the draft that’s why I think teams get very comfortable when a guy falls to the second you’ve seen a lot of success stories Matt sha Derek Carr Jimmy Garoppolo there’s a lot less pressure you don’t have to play him

Right away let’s face it in modern day football if I draft a guy Raiders Denver in the top 15 no one wants to see Gardner muu or whoever Denver Jared did him for long might give me a game or two but just throw the other guy in and

That’s sometimes can just get yourself in a massive massive problem it’s why J.J McCarthy makes sense for Minnesota they don’t have to throw him in right away Lamar Jackson back in the day with uh with the Ravens they had flacko right so he didn’t he didn’t start till the

Middle of the Season kind of got to ease in even Brock pie he was a seventh round pick but he wasn’t forced into action right away some of these guys get forced into action I don’t care who you are as a young person your confidence is very

Very brittle I mean you saw Bryce young he has another year like that it could just ruin his career we’ve seen it happen What Alex Smith overcame with Nolan and single Terry is one of the greatest accomplishments I’ve ever seen most guys it just ends them right but he

Didn’t break and then Harbaugh kind of resurrected him so I I think that you have to be a realist with your expectations at quarterback but no it’s it’s very black or white there’s no like well we can mix this guy in 25 snaps and that’s where I think you

Get into a lot of problems with yeah I mean if you whiff with a quarterback at the 12 spot you’re just you just wasted a pick I mean it’s one thing if you trade a first round pick like the Rams had done for years to get you know

Jaylen Ramsay and good players it’s another one you don’t have it because you whiffed on a quarterback it’s just hard to overcome all right the NBA season is in full swing coming down the stretch then we move right into the playoffs in April May and June I can’t

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Trade all right the code is always Colin the crown is yours the Dion Sanders thing is interesting like listen Colorado football has been irrelevant outside of the Bill McCartney days most of my life there was the Eric bemy there was that four or five year run when they

Just got a lot of La kids and they were fun and they they were it was really really uh a really interesting program for about five years and so when Dion got the job you know my take is he’ll make them interesting and he’ll recruit but I

Wonder if he’s doing a disservice to his son so he he he’s talked about this whole my son doesn’t want to play in cold weather well in January take out Miami and domes you know 27 of the 32 teams are cold like you know it’s uh you know there’s more you know Detroit

Thankfully is in a dome and Minneapolis Minnesota’s in a dome but there’s just a lot of cold weather football I mean the Chiefs the bills the Ravens the Patriots uh the Seahawks for a while the Niners can be very cold in January December they’ve dominated most of the last 25

Years of NFL football 27 years Pittsburgh um I think shidu Sanders is really interesting I wouldn’t take him over Caleb or Drake may but I do think there’s an argument I could take him over Jaden Daniels um when his dad says there may be an Eli Manning situation boy my takeaway is

Elway was probably the greatest quarterback prospect ever that’s why he’s even referenced today Eli Manning’s brother pton won the MVP the year he’s coming out so there’s a oh oh here we go Payton now is the best Young quarterback let’s get his brother there was a lot of Leverage

Does shadur Sanders even with di zad have any leverage to do that well I I think both those guys said it when they were established as the number one pick going into the draft you know this guy still has another year of college where let’s face it anyone that watched the

Second half of Colorado Football it was a disaster his last four games he had six touchdowns he was not very good now his first couple games were pretty remarkable it fell off a cliff obviously it it doesn’t take you know an NFL scout to watch his physical talents right he

Can run he’s got a big arm but by no means if you just pulled NFL GMS that watched him on tape would they say he’s some lock top pick Dion’s one of the greatest prospects of all time as well and he you know he was in one of the

Great drafts with like Barry Sanders and Jim Kelly May I forget exactly no that was way before him but whoever his draft was was incredible in the Derek Thomas and I remember Dion had a famous story about someone wanted him to take a cognitive test and he asked him what

Pick you’re it was like the Giants and they were ninth he’s like I’m not going to be there I mean Dion had a lot of Leverage CU he was a all-time great Prospect let’s just let this see how these guys we don’t even know what position Travis Hunter is gonna play is

He a DB or a wide receiver right I mean he eventually has to establish a position to play in the NFL he’s not going to go both ways so to put this pressure and I understand he’s like a father he basically is a father to Travis as well I have no problem having

Confidence like these guys are going to be great NFL players he’s going to have a big season but to make that statement already let’s face it kind of puts a bad taste into everyone’s mouth coming in there because like you said one you end up whether you’re playing in La San

Francisco or Green Bay you end up playing cold weather games all the time right with cross Rivals even teams in your own division end up being cold the playoffs turn cold on the road he plays in Colorado right now it’s not warm what’s the weather right now in Denver

Probably like 3540 degrees so I I I understand that you know he’s a Texas Florida guy but I I one we just this guy’s not Caleb Williams or Trevor Lawrence like not everyone’s universally agreeing that he’s some Elite player luck Trevor and Caleb going into the season were a unanimous MVP shadur isn’t

I think people forget this if you take Jordan Addison out of the equation SC Pittsburgh to SC to the Vikings the last two years without an elite offensive teammate he had 93 touchdowns Caleb Williams and 10 picks those are in and this year was the best the pack 12’s

Been in my adult life I mean it was really as good I mean Arizona was good I mean Oregon Washington they was excellent Washington state was solid cow was fisky yeah so it’s like guys come on what are we what are we talking about

Here Utah is always good so I I like I can like shadur Sanders I don’t think he’s close to the power thrower of Caleb Williams um I mean and and both had bad offensive lines this year look at the numbers I mean down the stretch shadur

And I liked him against TCU the more I saw of shadur the less I liked him that’s probably what yeah I mean I I think if you had to go off today Travis Hunter is a better Prospect than shador Sanders now obviously that can change and he plays the most important position

But there were going to be a lot of I mean there were a lot of eyeballs on him at least early once they started being terrible people you know fell off but I I think this year and it’s going to be fascinating let’s face it he plays in a

Crappy conference I mean I would imagine the big Big 12 of now the four the Big 10 and the SEC I would say the ACC is going to be viewed as better than the Big 12 going into the season so he you know when it all said and done what if

He’s kind of playing nobody’s and he’s not that great again I me are we talking about some for sure top 10 pick I’m not saying that he can’t he could be the number one pick but he also could be a second round pick I mean there’s there’s

Just no I I would not put the rubber stamp right now he is some lock top 10 pick that’s just not the way it works and things change think how often JJ McCarthy wasn’t viewed as a top 10 pick coming into the season hell even after the season I don’t think universally the

Average person would be like that’s a top 10 pick now he’s gonna go like top five Jaden Daniels kind of had the Joe burrow Ascension no one was talking about that guy wins the Heisman now he’s talked about Bo Knicks I mean think things change very rapidly in football

With the prospects at the quarterback position so if if they’re going to talk a big game which Dion does because Dion can back it up I think sometimes he talks for his kids and you know last year that Colorado State situation talking before the game before what happened well his best player got

Destroyed ruptured a kidney and like almost died on the field so Dion’s coach now right he’s not the player so he he put this added pressure on him and he’d say well they have pressure no matter what because of my name and that’s true but I think this is another level I mean

That’s going to be a major talking point all next fall so they’re at the league meetings um the hip drop tackle was banned uh the defensive players are objecting to it it’s very hard for a smaller player to tackle a big player um puts the defense at a a further

Disadvantage I don’t think the league cares um also yeah yeah it means more passes to the tight end in my takeaway as they’re going to throw the ball to the pigs more uh replay assistance will now be permitted to change incorrect calls for roughing the passer in intentional grounding uh people could

Argue God that’s too much complexity to the replay system I actually like that um I None of these none of these bother me I don’t think you know one of the things that has changed in football and for the better people often say they like defense they like

Their team having a good defense they don’t really like defense so if I said to you the Super Bowl was nine to6 or 28-27 fans would take the ladder people love defense when it’s theirs but people fans will watch any great offense it doesn’t matter if it’s the greatest show

On Turf it’s Mahomes in his biggest year with Tyreek and so I think the League’s very clearly saying we’re trying to keep the players healthy we’re going to lean offense it’s good for Fantasy it’s good for TV I almost everything to me is just safety or TV product that’s how I view

All these rule changes well my initial reaction is I don’t think it’s necessary because I think the defensive player you know the the pure football element if I’m trying to get most guys are not ra Lewis Patrick Willis and Brian eracer that can form tackle anybody in space I’m doing

Whatever I can to get Christian mcaffrey Alvin Kamar or Travis Kelce to the ground well who did I just name beside the quarterbacks the most famous players in the league have the ball in their hand they want Debo Samuel Alvin Kamar Christian mcaffry saquon barkle they don’t want him to get injured right

Those are the people for Fantasy Football people watch The Casual fan which the NFL has more of they want to protect those guys so I I I think it’s just simple do they truly care about safety I don’t think they even did with the head they

Just didn’t want to get sued anymore it was all a cover your ass move and that’s been regulated out of the game right there’s no people don’t launch themselves anymore the quarterback and you’ve been saying this forever the quarterback’s the most important position for all of us fans to watch no

One want to watch the Bills play the chiefs with two backup quarterbacks even if we get mad on ridiculous roughing the passers the intention is to keep those guys safe and that I understand that this one I’m not going to freak out until I see the way they call it because

As a Defender the overwhelming majority of players are just trying to get the player to the ground no one’s trying even the guy that hurt Mark Andrews obviously he was not trying to injure him and I think this is where the players have been saying this forever

Once they cut the quote unquote head hunting they go after the knees well what pays the bills for these guys they’re lays and so we’ve seen a lot of knee injuries because guys get their knees blown out it happened to the taller players like groon forever so

Listen I I I think they they overreact to stuff like this and uh the writing was on the wall a couple weeks ago when they were all openly talking about in the league office I would imagine a lot of coaches don’t like it but as we’ve seen they don’t give a what the

Coaches think this is all like you said it gets back to the TV it’s why whenever you see these rules 90% of the time the coaches would always vote no they have no power it’s just the league the owners and the money which then the coaches and

The players all benefit from but some of these rules back to remember the CBA there’s no practice anymore well yeah that that limits the development of young quarterbacks and offensive linemen but Roger Goodell and his team is not thinking about that they’re just thinking about Revenue growth Revenue

Growth and safety and they’ve kind of figured out a formula and safety for the offensive players you know it’s interesting um I’ve always had kind of a theory about what I do uh is that if I get new information I change my opinion and I’m not your classic

Journalist obviously I’m not a boots on the ground guy but I’m text I texted NFL two NFL GMS today about something so and you have the same contct uh contacts and the same kind of effort is that we’re both seeking information constantly and sometimes I just get new information and

I was very cool on Ryan Po’s um you know former offensive lineman the Bears GM vus Jones pick I could not stand at number three I just thought it was a complete whiff and I thought they just didn’t do their homework or their SEC Scout didn’t do their homework because

At SC he couldn’t track the ball he was a returner Max I didn’t love the chase Claypool move but I understood it Mooney was a smaller player Chase was a big body had a great rookie year distracted player didn’t work but I got to tell you as a former offensive lineman I think

He’s put some effort into draft capital and I think their left tackle and right tackle can both play they had another tackle they moved inside they’ve saved his career I thought the DJ Mo move Keenan Allen DeAndre Swift Gerald Everett I’ve got to be honest I did not

A year ago I did not trust Ryan P’s the GM of the bears but I’ve got new information the other thing they’re doing which the Steelers aren’t the Steelers and the Bears are defined defensively their cultures I mean outside of Brad sha Ben and some talented receivers it’s a defensive

Culture he is saying no that’s not what we’re going to do here we’re g to spend money on offense that’s what the Rams do that’s what the Browns are doing that’s what the Chiefs are doing it’s the opposite of the Steelers so I I find

Over the last two weeks when he went and got Keenan DeAndre Swift good pass catching running back 25-year old kid good player not a great player good player and then Gerald Everett with Cole KT those are functional smart players I’ve got to be honest between Caleb who I really like between these offensive

Pieces I I almost feel like I’ve got new information I think the I think the Bears got the GM right how is he viewed inside the league well I mean I think he had what has potential to be one of the great moves in the history of the league in

That trade that he made last year with the uh Carolina Panthers right because for a while it looked like he was going to be defined on some of his worst moves that was early on I mean that chase Claypool move was pretty embarrassing because his pick ended up being really

High and I think uh the Steelers ended up drafting Joey Porter Jr who’s a really highend play I mean that pick at the high at the beginning of the second round is very very valuable uh but that Carolina Panther trade I mean truly was a GameChanger and if

Caleb he does not have to become Patrick Mahomes if he just is a top 10 NFL quarterback which would be probably the best quarterback in the history of the franchise it would change their franchise forever and he took advantage of a team and an owner who was desperate

And cleaned up right and he also added one of their best players who was under contract in DJ Moore because my first thought last year when they traded for sweat I’m like God that’s a little much well then they immediately got him they started winning games their defense was

Better so their draft pick actually ended up not as bad they got him under contract like actually that aged pretty well I had to kind of eat that I was like well that’s not as crazy as it looked so yeah you when you work for Andy and vich and John dorsy he was

Around a lot of highle people for a while and I think it’s fair I’m sure you would agree and you’ve done this just like most people every human being makes Bad Business decisions most peoples are not public as a GM every move you make is very public right so so you’re going

To have bad ones but it doesn’t have to Define you if your great moves are awesome Joe Douglas has had some really good moves for the Jets but his quarterback moves so far have just not worked out and it’s going to ultimately get them fired if they don’t work so if

You figure out the quarterback situation which they are primed to do in Chicago all these other kind of they’re not even anair moves because they were kind of big have a chance to if DJ Morris just in the Pro Bowl for a couple years and sweats a pro bowler I mean we’re going

To be talking about this guy like a top 10 GM and if he can get the Bears as a winning operation now as a GM you’re also very dependent on your head coach there there is no great general manager that doesn’t NE have a good to great

Head coach so you you you don’t once the season starts you’re not implementing anything you’re not with the player you’re not doing Chris so he’s very Chris balor’s yeah Chris balor’s reputation is gonna improve over the next two years because of Shane siken well I mean he has might have the

Next K Shanahan so it’s gonna it’s going to change his life right it already did this year the quarterback got hurt we’re all like oh the culture screwed all of a sudden they’re in the playoff mix week 17 with Gardner mchu so there’s a lot of

Pressure on eflu and most GMS get two coaches so this was kind of a package deal poon remember was involved with the hiring of these guys definitely ebra flu so if this doesn’t work out you get another one you got to get it right because if he gets it right with Caleb

And the players he could be viewed as an elite guy but if he doesn’t a lot like the quarterback position just because you have a good quarterback if your coach isn’t good enough you’re going to be in trouble I I think the pressure on Eber flu serani and McCarthy because of

Their markets BEC I mean it’s the Cowboys he has no years left on his contract they almost fired serani like two months ago those guys are going to be in their own little Stratosphere and the way we talk about it but I think Eber flu that the pressure starts

Immediately because of their roster because of the talent and because they have a quarterback that we’ve been talking it happened in Jacksonville right part of Urban Meyer obviously there was a lot going on but like you got handed Trevor Lawrence so that to me the pressure gets multiplied by like 10

You know that Frank Reich all of a sudden we draft this guy at number one we trade our franchise I gotta fire you it’s not work that that adds an element of pressure with the high quarterback pick or it makes you Deo get the guy right we like God deo’s a shooting

Rocket ship now he might he would have been probably saw he would have figured it out because Demo’s pretty special but I I don’t know I mean Eber flu looks like he’s changed his look feels a little younger and hipper yeah so uh his team’s good I mean

There’s no disputing the the roster Talent is I mean Keenan Allen’s a real they have multiple receivers they have a tight end they got some good they have picks it’s the other thing it’s not like they just get Caleb then they don’t pick again till the second round they have

The ninth pick in the draft so the ability to either trade back or take a player imagine if they get that right so they have this really talented roster on paper already and they had Caleb Williams and player X if that guy becomes an immediate impact player

We talking about this team as a wild I if I was Chicago I’d trade down at nine I really would again you’re in a we’ve talked about the Chargers and the Giants I think those positions like five and six are too rich for some of these quarterbacks

Nine you know if somebody wants to go Raiders 11 to nine that’s different than 11 to Denver Denver sitting right there too yeah so I could see uh where the Bears would move down just three spots because this draft I’ve been told has 18 first round players it’s usually about

15 to 16 this feels like 18 or n the UCLA end is kind of the end of perceived first round Talent you know the end of the first round those last eight nine picks it’s no man’s land everybody would rather have top of the second picks but

But I’ve heard the UCLA Rush end is probably in that small group of last considered Elite start day one players be very productive so I I do think the Bears are in a good spot I Jaylen Johnson the corner Monte sweat defensive line I would think if if they’ve got two

Receivers now my take was their offensive moves in free agency signal that that number nine pick is gonna go defense they got to give ebra something right you can’t just keep saying I got receivers I got tight ends and and for the record I think they probably they probably

Need I mean if you look at that position there’s uh verse from Florida State they could probably use another Rush end yeah you could take the Bama pass rush as well you could take one of those two guys for sure if if you get stuck the one thing with Chicago you’d say that

Division Detroit kept their offensive coordinator who I think a lot of people view as a lynchpin of that operation so they’re they’re going to be good again the talent on that roster is not really debatable it’s top five six in the NFL that the Lions roster and like most

People it’s hard to bet against the Packers if Jordan Love’s going to be a good player so it’s not like it’s going to be easy them right that that they’re playing in and if Minnesota is just a credible operation with a lot of good talented players it’s going to be a

Challenge and even if Caleb is really good it’s the NFL is hard I mean pton Manning set a record for interceptions as rookie year so it’s it’s just the pressure that comes along with it now Caleb like you know a lot of guys in recent memory has been under the

Spotlight he’s used to it he’s used to getting paid so the money shouldn’t overwhelm him but there’s when’s the last time the Bears had this much pressure slin going into probably 15 plus years ago time they had this much offensive Talent when’s the last time the Bears had a legitimate

Star number one receiver and a legitimate star number two receiver that’s just not you and a Star Quarterback I I couldn’t tell you the last time he had Jake Cutler didn’t he have Alshon Jeffrey yeah he had Alshon they had Brandon Marshall for a minute

They had those two guys I mean they were solid they they were they were a real team and that’s kind of what this but Jay by that time was a veteran player played Caleb’s been in Lincoln Riley’s offense there is a little bit of a jolt

You know you get Waldren runs more of the Shanahan operation there’s time to just get used to playing in a system where you’re probably under Center a little more now part of it is as an offensive coordinator you’re not going to force him to do things he doesn’t

Want to do but you also have to kind of find a middle ground so I I’m fascinated I I like you said Ryan poles I give him an A+ for about the last 12 months he’s been kicking ass I think he’s done a really good job and and that’s just one

Of the things I believe to be true like I never understood listen you could criticize me all day long but it’s like I change my position all the time because I get new information the other thing I think is funny about being in a public job whether you’re a quarterback

Or a mayor a talk show host things that look like a hot take end up not being a hot take I mean if i’ have told you a year before it happen Kevin Durant’s gonna go to the Warriors you’d be like what are you talking about Oklahoma

City’s a finals level team and you know if you’d have said you know Shawn Peyton’s going to take that Denver job I mean I remember when he took it I was he wouldn’t talk to me the last couple days when the rumor got out and I’m like he

Wanted the Chargers job he doesn’t want that Russell Wilson thing that’s not goingon to there are so many there are so many situations that I would have said 10 years ago it’s a hot take like I didn’t get JJ McCarthy at all and then all of a sudden I got two people from

The combine one said yeah we just talked to him at the Whiteboard he was unbelievable and I was like oh that’s what I heard about Baker before he went one and then all of a sudden I saw 21 extra pound show up so the JJ McCarthy

Stuff is kind of one of these if you’d have said it a year ago there’s going to be a wild pursuit of JJ McCarthy to be a top five quarterback a year ago I would have been like you’re out of your mind he’s skinny a year ago I I have said

Watching the Penn State game you know three four months ago like you’re nuts the Ohio State he played he made some plays against Ohio State but you never watch that but but here’s the thing when you draft a guy you’re not really just thinking about week one right you’re

Really thinking about 2027 2028 2030 you’re thinking about him being your quarterback for a decade plus he just turned 21 years old for example will Levis is going to be 25 right so it’s like the the age matters uh what he was asked to do matters I saw John Lynch

Talk to the Press today and he’s like uh he like you know I wanted to go to the USC pro day and he’s like one of my main Scouts is like don’t waste your time go to the Michigan pro day they have 18 players we ain’t taking Caleb go watch

The talent so he played on a team Colin that is going to set potentially the NFL record for players drafted in one individual draft they already set the combine record that they set six offensive linemen only five guys can play I don’t even know how that’s possible but that shows you it’s like

USC Matt Castle’s getting drafted he’s not even taking a snap shows you the talents at a different level well when I out Talent most people I don’t need to be playing like Lincoln Riley and that you know try to score 45 points that’s not how hard boss ever played so I think

You start you know judging him on the context of everything and character and all the intangible stuff let’s face it it doesn’t matter as much as the other positions Jaylen Carter has a ton of red flags he’s a 6 fo5 320 pound interior rusher he was never falling out of the

Top 10 if a quarterback had those I don’t care how talented he is he’s not getting drafted high he he’s just not so wide receivers defensive lineman people yeah we’ll figure it out Mar so that quarterback Marvin Harrison J J I think benefits from his dad’s very sort of

Quirky personality his dad you know it’s very well known I’ve never even heard the guy talk his dad or Marvin Harris it was very well I mean i’ had a source tell me I’ve had two sources once when he was playing and once recently talking about Marvin

Harrison’s dad like he didn’t like after practice sometimes he wouldn’t shower in the facility he would literally go home he didn’t hang out with the players so he was an oddball like first of all he only played on one side of the field with Payton Manning he was sort of a

Kind of a rigid rigid personality there was the story about gun charges Philadelphia murder I mean there’s a lot of out there so his son does goes to the combine he won’t talk he won’t do a pro day he won’t go to the combine and my takeaway is well his dad you can

Watch him play he just doesn’t look like anybody else I love Romo Don but he doesn’t have quite the explosiveness uh the kid out of LSU is good he doesn’t quite have um you know it it Harrison’s just he’s like Calvin Johnson I just don’t see any holes and the the truth is

Ohio state does a good job with receivers and his dad is probably giv him all sorts of insight so what’s funny about like people are getting caught up in har Marvin Harrison and they’re like H he doesn’t talk it’s OD I’m like that’s dad that I mean people Marvin

Harrison there’s a 30 for 30 there like I know everything about Randy Moss I know a lot about Calvin Johnson who’s a pretty reticent guy doesn’t talk I don’t know anything about Marvin Harrison that’s there’s two great 30 for 30s that have never been done Michael Jordan’s

Wizard years they were a that that won’t get done either it was a s show and Michael won’t let any of that stuff out and the second one is Marvin Harrison in Indianapolis I mean he he was uh I mean it was he was on the team but players

Would tell you he just wasn’t one of the guys like at all so that’s his son so I’m like I kind of chalk it up to like father like son yeah one thing I saw with or texting around you know I don’t know if Marvin Harrison was going to run like

445 and if you run 452 you know when we’re talking about the elite of the elite Larry Fitzgerald to Julio Jones Julio Jones ran like a 444 with a broken foot remember at at his pro day uh you know the Calvin Johnson’s of the world he’s not quite that and his dad’s

Like none of this stuff matters just it doesn’t matter so he’s not doing any of it he’s at any other position or I mean at the quarterback position it would be weird like even Caleb threw it the pro day right which I give him credit

Because when you work out at a pro day who does it help Brendan rice it helps your teammates Marvin Harrison’s in his own little world no one cares if wide receivers are in their own little world you watch wide receivers during cont track negotiations in the NFL it’s

Always a big hoopla it it’s just not like that at other positions so I you know you talk to people in the NFL they don’t all believe that Marvin might be the best Prospect in this draft the kid at LSU but he’s got some off the- field questions Rome is probably a little

Safer bigger but is he as fast is he as crisp you know depends who you talk to where all these guys are getting drafted somewhere between six and 12 so I mean at the end of the day that that’s the other thing that bothers me like he fell

In the draft he went seventh or ninth you know it’s not falling in the draft quarterbacks push guys down offensive linean push guys down if you get drafted at 11th overall you’re you’re pretty highly viewed in NFL circles I think it’s safe to say so one of the things uh

John middleof three and- out former NFL scout one of the things um people come up to me all the time when I I mention my podcast or they asked me about the volume and they’re you got a lot of fans out there and one of the things uh that

I think is uh strength is you’re a very relatable guy you like your vodka you like your gambling uh you know you’re just like a a relatable guy you like your golf I want to talk about the shoi Otani story because my takeaway and I know it came off as sort of maybe

Callous um but as long as he didn’t bet baseball I don’t care um first of all our life experiences shape us my first job out of college was Vegas I just knew gamblers it didn’t mean anything I didn’t think they were bad people I mean people are doing things on Wall Street

With my 401k I have much greater concerns that they’re doing in a sports book at the Hilton uh the second thing is when you’re young and you’re making a lot of money and like I’m not talking like a million dollars I’m talking like momes sh Otani you have people that are

Really doing a lot of your work for you you’re not doing your books um you know mean everybody in Hollywood even even B actors they have entertainment attorneys and accountants uh that sh Otani is not looking at his checking account like the the rest of us are like he has no IDE he

May have multiple checking accounts in Los Angeles to avoid taxes you know you’ve got llc’s es Corps you’re doing whatever you can now he’s a he’s an employee so there’s limitations on what he can do but you know you’re all trying to in California with 13 a half% you

Know state taxes to avoid it this part I totally believe he’s not watching his checking account like that money is going to his attorneys it’s going going to his stock portfolio I heard when Tiger Woods was in his prime he was sending a check of and I’m not

Like 20 million a month to his financial adviser like they just off the top 20 million $240 million it was something something absurd like that it it was he was making $100 million a year so he writing a $15 million check or $10 million check maybe it was $20 million a

Year off the top just went to the market so it was some absurd yeah amount and you know you’re not you’ve got people that do this I can buy Otani saying listen man he’s a friend I have a checking account I I gave him you know I I it’s like power of

Attorney I allowed him to take some stuff out because I just I’m busy and it goes sideways fast that’s a lot of money if you’re drawing stuff out of otani’s account and it’s $7 million you’re thinking I’m taking for granted he doesn’t have a clue which he doesn’t I

Can buy that Otani didn’t know and feels completely burned by a friend I can buy that can you yeah I actually played golf last week with a guy that owns a big insurance company in Boston and he has actors and major league baseball players basically their life insurance accounts

And he said he’s never talked to one of them he just was on the phone getting business with one of the he wouldn’t tell me the name he’s like you know rules but one of the main actresses in Hollywood and he talked to the person

That runs all of her money and all she has to do is say yes or no and they’ll do it and then he runs the point she’s not checking her checking account every day like you said like me right so to me I think there’s two fold on this one the

Overreaction that gambling I grew up around my dad was a farmer and knew a lot of people that risked a lot in business and that was their mentality and they gambled a lot I’ve been around a lot of gamblers my entire life people have been gambling since the history of

Time it’s got to be one of the longest running Perfections in the world people have been doing it well before any of this stuff existed goes back to the 19 early 1900s with sports right think about some of the scandals so this reaction of like well this is getting

Crazy this is Michael Jordan one of the things we’ he’s known for is he’s gamble all the time so how it’s this notion that guys don’t think like that now he denied it today he claimed that he knew nothing about it and and I heard you say

If he had done it as long as he’s not betting on his team to lose which I understand I don’t even think it would be that big a deal if he was gambling one you’re gambling on football or EPL soccer who cares and two it’s very realistic he just signed a $700 million

Contract where he was cool getting $20 million over the next 10 years does that not show you how rich the guy is name me another human beside like Warren Buffett that would people forget how much money like Kobe Bryant made in Turkey or Brad Pit made overseas like American

Audiences have no idea when you’re George Clooney you’re Brad Pit then Washington you’re you’re making $30 million a year Leonardo DiCaprio European commercial go to you go to Italy and Le Caprio like commercials in Italy Kobe Bryant made a fortune in China in Turkey so like can you imagine

What sh Otani makes in Asia well the it’s it’s it’s reported that it’s 60 million this upcoming year it easily could be way higher I remember when Hideki Matti won the Masters and Paul ainger is like he might be the next billion dooll athlete just Japanese golfer right there there’s a small percentage

Remember Yao Ming we talked about forever the Asian market is huge one like they were very close clearly they’ known each other for a while not crazy that he stole I think it’s crazier that a bookie I’m fascinated by this bookie to be able to run lines at $4.5

Million like how you have the ability to run a line of credit like even in Vegas right a big money guy I mean a million dollar line of credit for a super rich guy with a company that’s worth hundreds of that’s pretty big So you you’re

Giving lines of credit this guy must I’m fascinated by this whole bookie when it all comes out this operation probably pretty big which probably hints why the feds were after this guy maybe some Hollywood guys but I one I I just don’t really care and my my first reaction is

I just want to see this guy play now Ethan Strauss our buddy wrote an article I I couldn’t disagree more like I just think this basically saying that gambling is like I I don’t want to not ruining Society but just getting so aggressive and we’re becoming numb to it

I say well what about alcohol listen I mean alcohol has been a it’s been a driving force in society The History of Time Well here here’s one of the things whenever I see journalists you know and they can be I think journalists I’ve said this before my top criticism they

Have agendas acknowledge it we all do um and secondly don’t be naive if you’re going to be a journalist then be a true journalist do you know the average bet with dra Kings is $4 it’s hard to ruin your family if you’re betting 10 of those a day all right it’s

$4 I used to work for another gambling company they told me their average bet was $45 dollar that includes big betters the second thing the disturbance or Distortion rate among gamblers is 1% of which every time I read an ad I have a 1 1800 phone number I have to give out the

Distortion or disturbance rate with alcohol is 6% should we close all the bars in Chicago like and they don’t read they say please drink responsibly that’s about the only warning you get so my take on this I do both it’s not even arguable alcohol is way worse for you

Than gambling I don’t care who you are it’s bad for your brain it’s bad for your finan not your liver you know and also when you look at gambling look at the hold the state lottery has look at how much money people give to the state lottery and the small amount the small

Amount the public a winner gets back the hold in gambling I bet 50 bucks in a game and I don’t I mean I I make a good living I bet 20 bucks on a two three team parlay the hold on a straight bet 50% chance I get it

Back Ethan also defended Otani in the sense that if he was gambling it is complicated if if you’re foreign you come to this country and wait I can I I play in Arizona it’s legal I come to California it’s illegal I go to Texas it’s illegal but then I go to Chicago

It’s like it is kind of complicated right so and the leagues jumped head first into this and I think for the players the NFL found immediately that it was a complicated scenario and they got really aggressive with the punishment obviously you can’t cover you know gamble on Sports you’re allowed to

Gamble on other sports you just have to leave the facility but it’s they they jump so fast and then they expected everyone to follow the rules but money’s all relative I mean I I heard I I played golf with a guy that caded at the big country Club in Arizona and he says

There are countless gambling games where putts can be $2 to $300,000 by the 18th hole so bunny which to that guy if he’s worth 500 million is no different than if I’m worth a 100,000 and I’m betting aund ,000 do is a lot of money so money

$4.5 million sounds a lot of money to 99.9% of people to show aotani let’s face it it is a tiny tiny percentage of his yearly income let alone the guy’s net worth if he’s even gambling if you want to believe him I I I simply don’t

Care I just want to watch him play the baseball I mean the greatest basketball player ever in many eyes is Michael Jordan prodigious Gambler the best analyst in NBA history is Charles Barkley noted Gambler like we think of football and gambling the truth of the matter is basketball players golfers

It’s just part of our culture and I think if you look you know I’ll be honest with you John I’m out I’ve been a public figure for a while right maybe the 13th rung of a public figure in Los Angeles but people know you Colin people

Know so when I go out the overwhelming thing people say for six months of the year hey what’s your blazing five this week that’s I’ve been doing that for hold on I’ve been doing blazing five for 19 years so this is not like DraftKings sponsors the show I’m Pro I’ve been

Doing this forever when I made nothing on it now I do DraftKings help support the volume other Ventures but I think you have to understand Europe’s been way ahead of us on this and people may say oh there’s just there’s ads everywhere you don’t have to watch the ads there’s

Also Tire ads mattress ads have dominated Sports my entire life beer ads there’s I mean College athletics there’s like like hard alcohol ads like binge drinking alcohol so I’m I’m not just saying this because of my relationship our relationship as a company with this in the end I think if Ethan Strauss did

Make that argument and I’m sure he did that it’s confusing for Otani I’m making the argument that when you make that kind of money people are running your bank accounts and I could absolutely you say to yourself day $4 million it’s amazing if you just kept taking out 20

Grand 20 grand 20 you start looking at that account I bet you he doesn’t even see that account at all no one 100% I I also think that the overall discussion I I think about some people that I’m still friends with either that I grew up with and that I went to

College with one of our binding connections is gambling and one thing a lot of journalists who and people in the media I would say that have the journalistic background that talk about this stuff wouldn’t you say a large percentage of them not only have never gambled but will never gamble it’s not

Really it’s not their thing it’s not in their DNA where Mo you said I’m a normal guy I just do what most people do like most of my friends in life and I don’t mean they gamble thousands of dollars but they just bet on I get text all the

Time during football season who do you like this weekend who do who you like tonight I mean that’s just how people discuss and we were discussing we were talking like that well before DraftKings and these other companies ever came around it’s like I I was the other night

Ann and I went to a Bulls game and I I was laughing I’m like I said you know Ann and I go we like to have a cocktail and we’ll have a couple cocktails watch the game and La we just having a ball together and we went out later that

Night and I said are we the only people in this Arena having fun like everybody else is watching the game and I’m like we got cocktails we’re having a good time 30% of Americans don’t drink 50% Americans don’t bet I mean Jesus half the men I mean 50% uh I think it’s

All the intimacy in America is by 50% of the men there’s a lot of people not gambling not drinking not sex and it’s like thank God I’m on the other side of that thank God be a shitty life I don’t want to know anything about it I’ll promise you that

I’ve seen your beautiful girlfriend you’re in great shape all right DraftKings did release its win total so we both talked about the power of kurk cousins Atlanta is a shocking 10 and a half over under and the Vikings who I think are stacked offensively are at six

And a half that’s Kurt Cousins let me throw another one at you this one so I when the Jets last year had Aon ERS I said listen the history of old quarterbacks is they got to have good old lines Russell Wilson’s first year in Denver they didn’t he stunk Stafford

Rams did then his third year I think it was they didn’t he struggled Brady’s first year in Tampa excellent they had injuries it wasn’t as good you can’t have a 40y old that’s why Atlanta for Kirk Cousins works that’s a really good old line that’s why Jared Goff Works

He’s younger but rate o line so the Jets have signed some kind of like Tyron Smith who will play about 13 games a year uh kid from the Ravens the Jets are n and a half and I’m like time out if you look at the AFC DeShaun Watson’s

Back um you know uh Herbert’s got a legitimate coach CJ strad is moving up fast Trevor Lawrence will be healthy um you know two of Mike McDaniels are going nowhere Josh Allen now has between King Kade and cook has some really nice offensive weapons I look at the Jets in

N9 and a half and I thinky you are that’s a bad old line for an old quarterback of an Achilles surgery I said it this year during the season Aaron being relevant in January to me is over it’s nothing against Aaron it’s just old quarterbacks and crappy on

Lines don’t work what do you make on I would bet the under on that all day well I I’ve been down on him but if I wanted to make the case Miami just lost a ton of talent they had a lot of guys walk out the door they also lost thck fangio

And their defense was already in question and Vic called them out thinking like no one wants to focus and I think a lot has to do with the city they live in are they about to pay two of 4550 million a year because if they

Do I’m out and so to me Miami still has some question marks even if we all agree Mike is a great play caller quarterback I’m definitely not sold on and defensively I mean they just lost their best defensive player he just walked in free agency the Patriots now the Jets

Finally beat him I think week whatever the last week of the season have owned the Jets didn’t didn’t bill beat him like eight straight Seasons swept them well Bill’s gone I think the Patriots got a couple years of coming to Jesus and Robert Craft is about to find out

What the NFL is really like it could be ugly there and then the bills like I whenever I see the Super Bowl windows closed I laugh as long as you have Josh Allen when you have Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Joe Burl Patrick Mahomes your roster can be in flx you got a chance

But the Jets did beat them in one game last year so I’d have to look the rest of their schedule I 8 to nine wins best that’s assuming Aaron roggers who let’s face it you go back because part of Russell Wilson isn’t just the last two years remember the last year in Seattle

So now it’s a body of work going the wrong way Aaron the last year in Green Bay something was off it might have just been age in the history of sports most guys at 38 39 start trending the wrong way I I know he’s healthy guy looks good

But he wasn’t quite as fast his arm still there but a huge part of his ability was the adli that made great player the analytics Greg coell and Warren sharp and others were on this Aaron’s analytics is he just didn’t run anymore like and if he doesn’t run I

Mean say what you want well he’s not as fast probably anymore so he doesn’t want to risk getting tackle hit old guys don’t want to get hit I mean you know Eli Manning and Brady mastered get rid of it quick or figure out how to roll

And not get hit so I don’t think Aaron I also think Aaron isn’t quite as committed as a lot of the young guys that are really bigger stronger and I and I think the only way to be good is sort of to be focused like kurk cousins

Later or obsessed like Brady I don’t think there’s a way to be casually and Aaron you know I’ve heard this from multiple people Aaron he’s not going to sit and watch game film all weekend that’s not what he’s going to do as a personality he’s going to read some

Things and listen to music and do his own thing he is not Brady on the film he’s not pton that’s not he’s not Breeze as a workaholic Aaron has is one of those guys it’s almost like well because had more physical capability than those guys it’s like a rock star you know the

The Bonos and the band’s edges that have survived didn’t have long periods of drug use like they took care of their body they partied but they have aged very well the bands that didn’t haven’t like I think Aaron didn’t quite take the same level of care and I think he’s

Aging faster than other guys yeah I think if he can’t move anywhere remotely like he used to that’s a problem the one thing he has going that Payton lost Breeze lost Ro their arms failed them you know Rogers arm is still strong so to me he’s still going

To be able to function but I think his day the day and age of him just being some lock Elite player it’s been gone now for a couple years and I just think the question now is the pressure on the offensive coordinator which let’s face

It if you just pulled people in the NFL is Nate Hackett any good or is he not any good most people would say he’s not any good and then the other reason he’s there is because he meshes with Aaron so it’s Aaron just telling him what to do

Like there’s got to be a little give and take and you saw how many times this year with Aaron shaking his head you know with play calls when he would show up it’s just I I think it’s got a chance to be a p they do have some players

There’s no disputing that they have impact players on both sides of the ball but if you can’t protect a quarterback who now can’t really move Jared gof like you said can’t move he’s got arguably the best offensive line in the league doesn’t need to move well if these guys

If Smith gets hurt if Moses gets hurt if their interior offensive line isn’t any good you’re sitting duck even Zack Wilson kept them alive last year some because he just kind of scramble around and so yeah I I think the Jets are fascina I that division though I think I

Think Miami could be in for uh come back to the to the the average a little bit and the Patriots are in for real NFL life now the other I saw the Cowboys like 10 and a half too that that seems a little high I mean they’ve lost a lot of

Players by the way Niners Ravens Chiefs 11 and a half I tend to bet the Enders once get into that space um Lions Packers Eagles bills Bengals Dolphins Falcons Cowboys Falcons the head scratcher a little bit 10 and a half Texans Jets n and a half I’d buy that

With the Texans I don’t with the Jets uh Rams pull back to eight and a half I think Aaron Donald they subtract a win I thought they would be nine and a halfish Vikings very low Kurt Cousins not there and Patriots Panthers at four and a half

Titans Broncos five and a half again I I do believe with the Broncos go I I think they’re going to draft a quarter and I think to be honest with you bone Knicks would win immediately because I think he’s got 61 starts I just interview I

Talked to the kid last week for 30 minutes 35 minutes on and off the air he’s just a grown-up he’s ready to play NFL football whether or not you think he has this high ceiling that kid’s seen it you know he’s had five offensive coordinators in five years and he’s

Worked with all of them he’s gonna work I think adversity has proven to matter a lot with a lot of these quarterbacks that have had some struggles in college like Mahomes was winning a lot Josh Allen was told we don’t have scholarships for you right Lamar Jackson

Tumbled in the draft bck got his ass kicked in the SEC I mean he was even when he transferred to Oregon so yeah I’m fascinated by him I I think he needs to go to the right spot and Shawn pyton I mean they’re let’s face it they’re

Kind of desperate right now I guess they could just kind of roll it over a year but I don’t think Shawn Payton’s making 8 million a year to try to win four or five games like he’s going to try to compete immediately and that division now with Harbaugh and it got a lot

Harder even the Raiders I don’t know if Pierce is going to be a great head coach they do have impact players they’re not like an easy team to play no theyve they’re I’ve said this for years I the Raiders have five or six and they have key positions star receiver Rush end

Left tackle like I think I get a quarterback right I don’t doubt the Raiders could at the end of the year I thought they were really competitive playing with a lot of fire and purpose with Aiden oconnell so I’m okay with it um by the way I was in the

Car today and I I turned you on right as you were talking to Mick Cronin about his struggles and he gave the line I still turn left on Sunset that’s one of the greatest lines I’ve ever heard I I don’t think whether you win eight games

Or you win 30 I still turn left on Sunset that’s that’s an all time comes over that Hill from enino it’s a left right by the circular hotel and you go left on Sunset into B air then Beverly Hills then right to UCLA it’s pretty good life I haven’t been to every campus

In America but when you walk on UCLA’s campus there there’s got to be a short list of campuses oh no there I don’t think there’s anything like it in I mean USC Stanford you know there’s it’s La it’s it’s the bay area but nope there’s nothing like UCLA I’ve ever been to no

John middleof former NFL Scout’s podcast is three and out chopped it up for a little over an hour this week led to seeing you buddy we we’ll talk in a week okay see you Colin