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Bonus Episode ft. Danny Parkins & Andrew Fillipponi | What’s Wright?

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Welcome in watch right with Nick right episode 221 and first in Pod episode I’m going to guess 64 sure this so alongside me if you’re watching on YouTube is Danny Parkins from the score in Chicago Andrew philipon from 937 The Fan in Pittsburgh who also hosts the first and

Pod podcast and you might be listening to this on the first and pod podcast feed if you are and you don’t know who I am my name is Nick Wright I host what’s right with Nick Wright which is what you’re watching on YouTube now potentially and also first things first

On FS1 so these gentlemen were at this bougie radio conference yesterday hobnobbing with radio celebrities I got I I was involved as well because my my roots are radio these gentlemen ALS o are going to be on first things first today and so we are doing our first ever

What’s right with Nick Wright first and pod crossover episode I’m going to give the audience a little recap of what first and pod is during the NFL season they do two pods a week the kind of catchline is every team every week every game every team every week every team

Every week every game they run through the entire league so with free agency kind of coming to a close not done yet but the you know the first week is over we are going to do that same thing here where we will touch on all 32 teams not

Necessarily in order of importance but in order it occurred to us and so Danny Andrew thank you for joining us and thank you for having me on the first imp pod feed which people should subscribe to as I’ve told the audience it’s my favorite weekly NFL pod during the

Offseason It’s weekly during the season twice a week gentlemen how’s it going it’s great man thank you for having us I love this crossover idea yeah it’s like sharing the work burden I was going to say it made it my life a lot easier this week all right so that’s what I care

About as we were on our way home from quite an interesting dinner that Andrew philipon set up with maybe America’s most prominent local talk radio host Greg gonat who had just takes on takes on takes I thought we were going to get thrown out of Mr CHS uh my guy Gio and

Ean uh I’m fine with him saying this I think had 11 Grey Goose SAS with a splash of cray the splash of cray felt unnecessary but I don’t know when you’re going dozen drinks in so that was a good night on the way back from that we found

Out that Keenan Allen had been traded to the Bears which we’ll get to in a moment and that the chief’s perfect off season continues Hollywood Brown who listen I don’t want to overstate it because I don’t think Hollywood Brown is a great player I think he has a lot of potential

And high upside but he was was at worst the third best wide receiver that could be available in this free agency tell me if you disagree Mike Evans Michael Pitman Hollywood Brown were the top three is is there you forgot Kelvin Ridley so I think you can make a Darnell

Mooney argument like if Mooney went to the Chiefs I think he would put up really good numbers but so I I think Hollywood Brown’s better than Darnell Mooney Ridley you’re right I did leave him out uh and so all right so top four the distinction is of course the Chiefs

Got him for one year 7 million bucks which is perfect yep and this is this is the benefit to being the Chiefs and I know that’s I know people are irritated hearing it there is it is the opposite of a bad team tax you get the great

Quarterback compete for a Super Bowl try to rebuild my value discount so while Chris Jones did not give them a HomeTown discount I feel like one year 7 million I think let me ask you guys this are the Chiefs the only team in the league that Hollywood Brown would play for for this

Contract one year 7 million bucks it can be 11 million if he hits all his incentives is there another team in the league that he would agree to that contract for because I say no probably not I mean obviously going to a high volume passing offense with a

Guy who’s going to throw the ball you know 500 600 times you know Buffalo would be interesting Cincinnati would be interesting but why Cincinnati they Higgins is going to play on the franchise tag there though no qu no question about it but I’m just saying like going going to it’s an elite

Quarterback thing if he’s trying to sign a one-year deal and for the Chiefs I agree with you there’s no bad one-year deal in the NFL you just would go he would rank it Chiefs and then after that some of the teams that I mentioned you

Want to go you’d want to go to the best quarterbacks possible so you mentioned Buffalo do we think Curtis Samuel is a better player than Hollywood Brown better equivalent worse I would say a touch worse yeah that’s what I would say yeah Curtis Samuel is just signed with

Buffalo for three years 24 million 15 million guaranteed point that I’m making there is I don’t think people are giving Buffalo I don’t think there is a josh Allen Buffalo Bills discount I don’t think they’ve earn like I don’t think I think that people are excited to play

With him and I think there is you know it makes it an attractive place but I don’t think that they got Curtis Samuel on a bargain I I think that that is kind of paying 100 cents on the dollar for a player of Curtis’s uh caliber which is

That is not an expensive contract but two a three-year deal where the first two years are guaranteed and I don’t know that this means Hollywood Brown is a chief in two years but it means that they now and this is why I think it’s such an important move and then we can

Move on the Chiefs because of this move don’t have any position they must use the 32nd pick on if they had signed no receivers then you almost are mandated to use that pick the 3 second pick on a wide receiver now Pony I think they could draft The Tackle

There I think they could draft the receiver there I also think they could draft a d tackle or a corner there the you know Corner because they think they’re going to lose KN D tackle because they haven’t drafted any D tackles since Mahomes been drafted in the first five rounds and Chris Jones

Getting older even with the extension so they truly I know it sounds cliche they truly can just go best player available for me like I don’t I don’t look at Brown as the type of move that changes how I feel about them if they if they don’t make the brown signing I still

Think they’re the best team in the NFL right but so here’s but here’s what I want to ask you so you said it’s been the perfect off season for them so far what what has to happen with Sneed to keep that going well I think that right

Now it’s 61 half to and the other I think that they’ve made it clear they are not trading him for anything worse than a top 40 pick do you think they will I at this point I do not you think he’ll play on the tag yes so I think

That he won’t be a distraction about it he’ll show up the first week There’s no hold in there’s no Chris Jones carried into the season he’s a good soldier he’s going for a Super Bowl I’ll be honest I don’t know that he’ll show up the when

You say first week of the off season I don’t think that but I do I think he would miss a game no because the thing the distinction between Sneed and Chris Jones was Chris Jones was finishing his second contract after being I think a

Sec a second round pick and he was on a four-year $80 million the last year of it Sneed was a fourth round pick who’s never made any money and listen I love Sneed and I hope at some point he gets paid either by the Chiefs or by someone

Else but this oneyear $2 million franchise tag is 4X what he has made cumulatively in his career every game he plays under the tag he makes more money than he had made in any year of the NFL so him missing a game I don’t think is

Going to happen and I so there was I had a hope a hope is the wrong word because I’m fine with him playing on the tag I thought Detroit at 29 was a I thought that made a lot of sense for both teams but when Detroit then trades for Carlon

Davis to me it makes it less likely and they become more likely if they’re going to use that 29th pick to trade for someone that t Higgins you know what I mean the other franchise tag option is more likely okay that’s enough Chiefs here because again that while this is

What’s right it’s also first in pod now Danny to your team now we’re talking about an NFC Powerhouse okay let’s go let’s get into it well I mean they had all this cap space they had the third most cap position of any team in the league and the moves that they made were

Seemingly like they were you know secondary or tertiary players Kevin byard free safety DeAndre Swift running back uh trade for Ryan Bates sixth offensive lineman maybe potential starter uh Simone biles’s husband you know you know like it’s just it was like what what are they waiting for what are

They going to use the money on they need to upgrade they had an needed Edge rusher people thought denil Hunter they still could use an elite three three Tech I was thinking Christian Wilkins was a possibility but it’s why you got to be patient and you got to not only

Know your roster but you got to know the rest of the league a fourth round pick for one year of Keenan Allen who yes will be 32 by the time the season starts and he missed four games this past year in the 13 games that he played he was

Simply excellent he’s a six-time pro bowler and now that offense with DJ Moore Keenan Allen Cole KT assumed to be significant upgrade at quarterback with Caleb Williams and whatever they choose to do with the ninth pick whether it is an edge rusher whether it’s trade down a

Little bit and Target Brock Boward or if adun or somehow Malik neighbors Falls truly investing and turning them into arguably the best receiving core in the league if you add a first round pick receiver at nine the Bears are stacked to have the best offense that they’ve

Had in my lifetime so do you think you you made well you just don’t see teams who are going to start a rookie quarterback make oneyear shortterm invest in this moment the right now moves like this do you think the investment is more the money or the

Draft pick they gave up no I’m saying you’re making a deal for Keenan Allen with no expectation or guarantee that he’s going to be with you beyond Caleb Williams first rookie year but we don’t know yet like they could they could rework the contract and sign him to an

Extension to lower the cap hit for this year I think I think that would be a mistake I think that the the so I agree with a lot of Danny’s optimism on the Bears a lot of it I think that that division while the Packers are good and

The lions are very good the division doesn’t have in my opinion a juggernaut the NFC obviously is the weaker of the two conferences and the Bears won seven games last year people have to be reminded constantly they have the number one pick because Carolina was terrible not because they were terrible where the

Trepidation comes in is the exercise we did yesterday you know around midnight when we got back to my house which was 32-year-old receivers in the League last year I just threw it out there and I said how many do we think had 500 yards and the answer to that question ended up

Being Adam thielen who had a thousand yards and that’s it the 32 plusy Old receivers last year were the following people Maris Goodwin 67 yards Marvin Jones 35 yards Randall Cobb 39 yards uh Adam thielen who I mentioned Julio Jones 74 yards and that’s the list and so the

Concern is that you know what I mean that that that position that age what is he going to have left I don’t mind but I say all that to say this because it’s not an extension I if they give him an extension rework the deal I will feel

Differently Andrew for one year I don’t mind it and to support Caleb as much as possible and give him the best chance I’m just surprised that a team that isn’t closer to winning didn’t try to make a one-year deal work with Allen that’s all but it takes a unique set of

Circumstances because of his CIT I you got to have the capf space the Chargers asked him to restructure the money down to help them out he said no they traded him and I’m with you on the 32y old thing just real quick 1,200 yards 108 catches and seven

Touchdowns in 13 games his game I think his style of play ages well he’s not a guy that to me is like he needs to be a physical freak or you know speed Merchant in order to make plays no he’s a technician oddly has like some Travis

Kelce similarities to him and kelse is 34 and had a almost a th to me he’s like a souped up version of Keenan McCardell who played into his 30s and had that same style of play let me ask you this though you said that this is a unique situation the ceiling for rookie

Quarterback situations in terms of how far you can go with them would be uh a championship game right Conference Championship Game Joe flacko Baltimore Sanchez New York perie yeah San Francisco how far away for like you say this is a you know unbelievable a quarterback a rookie quarterback is not

Do you think that that’s actually in I don’t see why not the I honestly I don’t see why not why why couldn’t the Bears win 11 games this year so I think winning 11 games is probably more likely than being in the NFC title game but

Right now this moment my my if if you said all the outcomes are available pick the one that you think is most likely I think it is more I think the most likely outcome is a wild card birth and a loss in round one great season which would be

A great season it would be and it would be it would feel better I think tell me if I’m wrong Danny then this when you had that with Mitch trabis or when you had that previously because it would feel like because of the quarterback that is something to truly build on

Corre it would that it so I guess what I just described there is what Houston just had with CJ I think that is I think that is a realistic expectation for the Chicago Bears this year well and I mean the Bears defense is good I think you overstate how good it

Is okay they they got better as the year went on as they got healthier they have an elite player at all three levels of the defense they’ve got a lot of young Talent they got Jaylen Johnson All Pro Corner they have taine Edmonds who’s one of the best coverage linebackers in the

NFL and they have Montes sweat I think calling Montes and traine Elite lowers the bar to for elite for me they’re getting paid like they’re Elite the I don’t know that Montes is getting paid like he’s aite he got a big contract well what’s the contract because I think he’s getting paid like

He’s the 10th best guy which is the that’s a tear down from Mite then yeah that’s what they they have a very good upper echelon player at all three levels of the defense plus four for 98 I I’m just I if I were in your shoes I would

Just be incensed that they prioritized carrying momentum over with the defense instead of let’s get a head coach in here who’s going to optimize that’s almost a different it is it is a different discussion it was a fork in the road I don’t actually think it is though because if we’re talking about

What they can do this year obviously a lot of it is can Caleb Williams have a season that’s similar to what CJ Stout had last year and I think without that coaching infrastructure I have doubts about that happening right off the bat but nobody would nobody would have said that Bobby

Slowick was going to be the key to unlocking CJ Stroud last year he’s special so yeah no that’s and listen slow and tell the audience who the Bears new offensive coordinator Shane Waldren the guy the guy from Seattle who helped Gino Smith have the breakout season two

Years ago the I would so the reason I mentioned that is slowick was a total unknown which to me allows for maybe a little more upside look at the coaching tree he came from well and just because we hadn’t we have seen Jane Waldren be

And now the higher floor as well than a guy that’s total unknown but we listen if we’re going to do every team 20 minutes we’ve done twoam which means right now we’re on Pace for a 10-hour pod and that’s not going to work um all right so let’s go now to the

Steelers and then we can hit the rest of the league we’ll go faster yeah uh they’ve never had uh a free agency period that’s been this eventful this is the most interesting start to an offseason they’re the type of team that would for years mock the teams that

Spent a lot of money and made the big moves this time of year and now they’ve become one which I think is fascinating so Russell Wilson Patrick Queen you trade Deontay Johnson I mean it’s just they’ve never had a flurry of moves like that can you explain the Deontay Johnson

Trade yes uh they didn’t want him around they wanted nothing to do with the guy so wait I thought so they have two Mal content wide receivers yep okay so is there what’s Mike Tomlin the great players coach has fostered a wide receiver room where he has complet

Knuckleheads and a-holes all the time okay so so they they traffic in that they live in that chase Claypool uhis bran Antonio Brown yes okay so the what is we just did this with Chicago we’ll do it with Pittsburgh what is the realistic ceiling for the Steelers they have to win a

Playoff game win a playoff they have to they’ve gone seven years without one so but that’s the that’s what you’re saying you think they need to do in order to keep the status quo do you think that’s realistic what do you mean to what do

You mean I don’t think they need I think they’ll keep the status quo if they go six and 11 I don’t think things will change okay all right the coaches like a pope or a Supreme Court Justice they never change him you know I’m right about that it’s ridiculous okay all

Right uh do you are are you if people again first and pod folks know this what’s right people might not at the same time that I got the never a doubt tattoo Andrew philipon got right on his hip Kenny pick it face and true actually my ass and he now

Is well I’ll just ask you yep your optimism on Russell Wilson uh cautiously optimistic decently High okay not bad that he I feel better about their quarterback situation now than I did a week ago okay and isn’t that fair yeah of course he I mean Russell Wilson is better than Mason

Rudolph and Kenny picket that that is OB orders of magnitude okay so he is what percent to be the week one starter oh 99.9 okay so it’s not a competition no it’s okay well I the I’m asking you I don’t know for a million bucks I think Russell Wilson if he lost that

Competition he would either asked to be released and traded to a team that maybe lost a quarterback because of injury or just fade off into the sunset and not play football anymore is it Denver money is it even being framed as a competition yeah because that’s because if they use a first-

Round pick unpick it I understand and they have a bigger investment and because picket is they have him under contract for another year after this and they don’t rush I think the biggest misconception is that it has to be one or the other now you have to start with

Wilson but I don’t think that starting the season with Russell Wilson means we won’t see Kenny pick it ever again if if Russ gets off to a bumpy start or stinks you bench him and you have like a 10 or 11 game Runway to see what Kenny picket

Is you kill two birds with one stone okay so that so I mean you it’s a oneyear one .2 million investment you can achieve both so I yeah so I think that is re highly on the board of potential outcomes I think that’s high that Russell Wilson is the starter that

He is the guy and then he gets deposed because of poor play because we are again Russell Wilson’s first nine years of his career every year played every game every year the team had a winning record three years in a row now Russell Wilson has missed time two of the years

Due to injury one year because he got benched and they’ve been below 500 so we are we are getting approaching a full presidential term since the last time Russell Wilson was the guy that people some people seem to want to believe he still is and so I don’t think he has a

Lot of leash and the one thing I want to say about his contract and then we’ll do the rest of the league I understand the 1.2 million makes sense for the Steelers Stick it to the Broncos he gets the same amount of money no matter what with that said Russell Wilson

Unequivocally if it were out there would have preferred 1.2 million this year with a substantial amount of money next year tacked onto a contract because that doesn’t impact what Denver pays him and it gives him security it’s very clear to me no team in the league was willing to

Give him that so this idea that oh he’s only making the million because of the Denver situation that’s true but he’s on a one-year deal because no one else wanted to but hold on I don’t think we know that I think we know that no team

Would give him $30 million a year in in year two how do we know that a team how do we know that the Steelers didn’t say to him we’ll give you a second year that’s like a $15 million salary and he said no I’d rather bet on myself see how

It goes I guess that’s possible and then get the baker Mayfield contract right sure okay if in that regard I guess that’s possible yeah I mean he’s made a gazillion dollars so’s going to bet on himself to be starting quarterback next year and that’s a ton of money all right

What’s next so the next team we have here is Denver and here’s why I have the Broncos after this we just talked about Wilson are they the last team left for Fields it feels like they’re the only place where he could start tomorrow for sure if he just showed up be but they

Don’t have a lot of draft Capital because of the Russell Wilson thing and because of the Shawn pton thing I don’t think you need a lot of draft Capital to get fields at this point I I don’t either but you still need to you need to give up something and if you’re trading

For Justin Fields it’s only 2.3 million or whatever it is for this season but are they gonna bet on we’re going to trade for him not pick up the fifth year option he’s better than Jarrett stum and he leaves in the year his third offense

In four years maybe this the one time we do this I’ll end up saying something that’s really dumb chances are good I’m I’m under the impression that uh Payton wants no no part of that I don’t think Payton wants Justin fields at all I think he has zero interest in doing that

So that’s also I just think Shawn pton what I’ve heard that well so this isn’t based on anything I’ve heard this is just based on you know knowing what I know about Shawn Payton and my gut intuition I think he wants to have a more traditional

Quarter people say oh he loved tesm Hill I brought that up but I think that’s misleading almost he liked t Hill as an element of the team and I also think with respect to Shawn he liked the idea that if Tamm Hill turns into something

The amount of credit and love I will get for building this guy and he was like the toy that was there that you could play with it wasn’t it wasn’t like a a six-month offseason journey to to seek out Tamm Hill he was right he he was

There with jamus and other guys and he was like oh I can try to taste some hell so why would the Giants not be involved they I mean I WR I was working on a list of teams like he’s he’s better than Daniel Jones and Drew lock he’s better

Than will Levis he’s better than Jared stum he’s better than Sam darnold though obviously will get to them in terms of what they just traded for he has certainly more upside than Gardner muu there are teams where if Justin Fields was a free agent right now I think that

The Giants would have signed him over Drew lock and let him compete with Daniel Jones no question about it but with Drew lock it just cost you money this it does cost you a draft pick and money so since we’re talking Broncos and we’ll leave it here I one thing that

Happened that I found interesting is and I think it’s actually smart so Russell Wilson’s $85 million dead cap hit they could have SP split it up to where it was the majority of that hit the 2025 cap and less hit this year they did it the opposite way where the majority hits

Now this coming season and less hits the following year I think that is smart I think that’s the right call I also think it’s speaks to the fact I think Shawn pyton might be looking at this year as a retool rebuild be awful and you know what I

Mean and try to hit the ground running in year three of his time there which I think is the right move I think if the Broncos they’re drafting 12 12th I think if the Broncos all of a sudden take the little draft Capital they have try to

Move up you know and try to do things so they can Target JJ McCarthy or J if he F Jaden I wouldn’t be a terrible idea but I just think that would be a mistake I think the Broncos have to take a longer view of it which is why you’re hearing

Names like Zack Wilson attached to them it also that also is an argument for them to take a flyer on Justin Fields but I just don’t think Shawn pton and Justin fields are going to be on the same team all right do we want go ahead

Danny well I mean let’s just get get into some of these teams right all right you mentioned Curtis Samuel for the bills what do we think of the situation they’re in now at wide receiver I mean I I think that we have to be honest about

Who Stefan Diggs is right now so Stefan Diggs a guy who fell off a cliff in the second half of the season right and was not targeted was not trusted but I the amount with which he fell off the cliff I think has been underrated by the

National media the first six games of last year ston Diggs in six games had 49 catches 620 yards and five touchdowns so we averaged over a 100 yards nine catches and nearly a touchdown game so 620 and five yep the final 11 games of last year he had 560 yards so fewer

Yards in the final 11 than the first six and three touchdowns and then in the playoff run he had a total of 73 yards and zero touchdowns so there is a there’s a lot of question questions with Diggs which is the new offense how much

Do they value him did he hit a wall all of those things now I don’t think there’s a big difference between Curtis Samuel and Gabe Davis so I don’t think there’s a huge drop off there but my big take on the bills is very simple and I

Want to know where you guys stand on it the only reason the Buffalo Bills are scary is because they have Josh Allen and the idea that the their path forward is to minimi to lower Josh Allen’s ceiling cuz they’re afraid of the mistakes that locks you into being just

A team you have to be like God Dogg it man this is going to be year six for him is that right he was drafted one year after Mahomes I think this is year six for him um no this8 2018 draft this is year seven for him because this is year eight for

Mahomes grow up give us the upside without the cartoonish mistakes that’s the only way we can be great but they changed to that point one of the most underrated stories in the NFL last year was when they fired dorsy mcdermit forced onto that team a

Very run first St and I think that and I think that puts a ceiling on him I agree with that but what I wonder is now that Brady is the full-time offensive coordinator is he allowed to to expand the offense was that a byproduct of them needing to make the playoffs last year

Or is that who the bills are this year and if that’s who the bills are this year if they’re just going to carry over that offense this year my prediction is they will maybe miss the playoffs and Shan mcdermit will get fired at the end of the year and somebody like bill

Bellich will be their coach next season oh I like and listen I that I think all of that was interesting I also think the other element for the bills is you asked about their offense and the receivers they are going to be for the first time

Of this era an average at best defense you cannot draft as poorly as they and have the lack of uh and the free agency losses that they had and all of a sudden be a real defense the way they’ve been so they are going to need Danny to

Have a great offense just to compete they will I don’t think the idea of more balance for Buffalo is a bad thing though I know I’m the highest one on Josh Allen here but like with Herbert in with the Chargers they hire Harbaugh they hire Greg Roman why are they hiring

Greg Roman how you going to help Justin Herbert he’s all about running games like giving Justin Herbert a run game would help Justin Herbert a lot giving Josh Allen some balance so he doesn’t have to be 85% of the offensive production week in and week out that should help reduce the mistakes because

He doesn’t have to be throwing every third and two we got we got to keep Falcons Vikings Kurt Cousins trade Fallout and what that caused Minnesota to do uh with the trade with Houston so I think Atlanta is I get why they are an oddson even money favorite in the South I I

Think it’s a little crazy that Tampa is second second 3 to one like I don’t think that the gap between Atlanta and Tampa should be that significant but assuming cousins comes back from the injury 100% it’s very hard to imagine a team maybe going from fields to Caleb

But that will have upgraded more at quarterback this year and their defense is very good and they will still be adding someone with the eighth pick in the draft which might be the best defensive player in the draft or it might be they might move down and add

You know what I mean extra stuff for a team that wants to jump there can you just explain to me why the assumption is that he will come back from this injury and be the same guy he was before I obviously it’s a leap of faith I don’t I

Don’t know the answer to that he’s he it they gave him over they gave him $100 million guaranteed so they have to have some confidence in it he did that workout video on a tennis court which is apparently impressive to people in the Achilles recovery Community I don’t know

Listen if he’s if he’s a shell of himself then big mistake that’s how I see it and I think that is not only is that a nonzero possibility I would say that’s a one in five I would say there’s a 20% not much of what he does is based

On athleticism or anything it’s just about snap throw get the ball out no I understand but it the but if the Achilles is not full strength or close to it then he will at at his age just not be the same player and they’ll be

Cooked but I just I still think it was worth it I think getting the stability at quarterback there with a good offensive line three top 10 skill position guys that use three top 10 we or draft picks in in London pits and bean I think it guys also here’s the

Other reason I think it’s Sneaky important you got to make decisions on those guys in the next couple years are you going to bring resign Drake London are you going to resign Kyle pittz and you need to give them stability there if I if I were them I would have made a

Push for Russ for a million dollars and had him be a stop Gap quarterback and draft and tried to get McCarthy in the draft to be my long-term answer to the position rather than invest so much in a guy there’s this I just I don’t I know

The numbers are good with him year after year he put ceiling on you I don’t trust him whatsoever as a quarterback I’m sorry don’t that’s fine but if you’re Raheem Morris and you’re like man I got a chance to be a head coach almost 15 years ago it never got off the ground

Because of Josh Freeman I’m just not going to walk through that door again I’m just stopped that I’m just shocked that the organization that watched Matt Ryan fall apart before their eyes made this commitment to Kurt Cousins so the Vikings if people don’t know the Vikings

Traded the 23rd pick oh I’m sorry the Vikings got the 23rd pick they traded away the 42nd the 188th and next year second which signicant which is significant so the Vikings are now sitting at 11 and 23 this means what to you well I mean I think the obvious

Connecting of the Dots here and you can look at any of the trade value charts that are out there the old Jimmy Johnson one or some of the newer Like Walter Football ones if they package simply 11 and 23 depending on which chart you trust they can either get the third pick

In the draft or the fourth pick in the draft so that if New England is in interested in trading out because they don’t think they’re ready for Drake may they can trade up and get Drake May or if this is a situation like the ners a

Few years ago when they traded up for Trey Lance maybe they don’t even know what quarterback is going to be there they just know they’re taking the third or fourth quarterback in this draft and they’re comfortable maybe it’s a smoke screen but everything I I heard out of

The combine was that the Vikings loved McCarthy everybody loves McCarthy the other yeah I know but the other taking him for would be crazy the other connection is that Josh maau was Drake May’s High School football coach but macc’s not going to be there I’m sorry

May is not going to be there they trade up to three if they trade up to three he could be there okay all right that’s fair if they trade up to three that’s right the so dusty this great stats guy from first things first sent me this

Right after the Vikings trade and I think it’s noteworthy when the Eagles traded up to get WIS before they traded up to get WIS they did a deal where they sent two players and the 13th overall pick to Miami for the eighth overall pick they then package

That to move up to number two so they ended up trading the eighth the 77th uh the 100th uh and a first and second rounder the next year to go from 8 to two but what they really traded was 132 players and that stuff to move up to

Two so I do think it is setting the table yes for a move up all right next okay so Jaguars Titans Calvin Ridley now a Titan we like it more for the Titan are bad for the Jaguars because the Jaguars roster management cost them Calvin their roster management is

Atrocious yeah I I I mean I don’t think that that story is being it’s not being discussed enough because no one cares other than Nick and his Trevor Lawrence Obsession but like they’ve let him down thank you they’ve let you know what let’s start that narrative that Trevor

Has been let down he has been and the listen Trent balky has been bad a lot of places and I for the the 49ers Jim Harbaugh for the I don’t like the Calvin Ridley deal for the Titans either well they I mean I know that inflation cap

Going up and all that but it is tough to reconcile 50 million for Calvin Ridley and not giving AJ Brown what 57 million correct two years ago and I know I know there’s a second round pick there and I know AJ Brown’s a higher percentage of the cap because getting that money two

Years ago was different but still AJ Brown is a significantly better football player than Calvin Ridley I was I was shocked by how much Ridley got based on his production from last year other problem for the Jags is they have the following four receivers all well and

Three of them are on extensions one’s on his rookie deal Christian Kirk at 24 million on the cap Z Jones at 11 Gabe Davis who right now is at five because they did funny stuff there and Devon duver that are those four receivers in

My opinion you have one guy who is a a two in Kirk and then you have three number three or four receivers their tight end and running back are probably better passing game threats than the guys they have at Wide Receiver right and so I don’t get what the Jags are

Doing I also don’t get what the Titans are doing all right Raiders and Texans we link these teams together because the two biggest impactful defensive players Christian Wilkins to the Raiders denil Hunter to the Texans which is the more impactful signing go ahead I think it’s Wilkins I

I think it should be Wilkins if it’s not Wilkins then something really effed up happened there he’s going to play on a line with Max Crosby I mean well so that’s the thing that’s and they uh they draft what Tyree Wilson right who didn’t really show much I mean he was bad last

Year yeah but it’s like a high pedigree thing um I think hter touch overrated by the way but go ahead and make your point well listen I think that Hunter is a consistent High floor vet it’s weird though that they basically flipped out Jonathan grenard for denell H yeah so

Wilkins Wilkins is excellent premium position Prime of his career always has been awesome against the run just had his best pass Rush season never misses games clearly Christian Wilkins is the better player which is why he got the bigger deal I think the Texans thing is just a continuation and it’s their

Offseason has been fascinating it’s been aggressive this is what happens if you have a rookie QB who hits immediately right this is why you play the guys in Year One they now know for the next three seasons that they have a top 10 willbe conservative quarterback on a

Cheap deal so for two years guaranteeing denal Hunter hey I know I’m gonna get 10 sacks you know that is a very valuable thing this is a CJ Stroud signing possibility for the Texas so I agree with that I listen I also like the Christian Wilkin signing a lot for the

Raiders I think the Raiders offense is going to be one of the worst in football next year and that’s why they’re not going to be good uh but I I getting Wilkins there I want to bring this back to the Chiefs just for a moment I can’t believe that uh this is

Why I love the Chris Jones deal so much because I don’t look at Chris Jones as $32 million a year which is what it’s three years 95 million fully guaranteed is what the deal is Because unless you have drafted a defensive tackle that’s awesome on his rookie deal the Christian

Wilkin signing tells me the cost of doing business to get a top 8 D tackle is he’s 27.5 million a year just call it 25 million bucks that get you in the door cuz what did uh Mauk go for like 24 million a year yeah you got a huge deal

So the cost of doing if you want a proven D tackle in this league it’s 25 million a year right now so to me the question is not is Chris Jones worth 32 million bucks the question is is Chris Jones enough better than Mauk or Wilkins

To to make up for the fact that you now can’t get a 7 million5 to7 million a year player and the answer is unequivocally yes yeah you can go naked at the position to say we’re going to draft a guy or not but if you want to

Have an inback guy at that spot you’re anchored at 25 million a year so does he it’s not is he worth 32 it’s is he worth the gap between him and the other guys and to me I I think the answer is unequivocally yes Cowboy biggest off

Bigger offseason loser Miami or Dallas I don’t think Dallas is a big loser they just did they haven’t done anything Nick well they did get Kendricks they stole him away after he agreed to uh well let’s amend that question and edit it out and throw it out now they gotri but

The Cowboys were really good last year they yeah mhm what what tell me here’s the how many times does the season have to end the same exact way for it to not nullify or completely cancel out what happened in the 17 game regular season that’s totally fair but

Here’s where I think you’re being uh intellectually dishonest is there anything they could have done in free agency that wasn’t change the coach or the quarterback that would change your opinion about them in the playoffs is there a move they could have made you’re like okay now they’re you

Can’t you can’t play the playoffs in March no no no no he’s saying I think what Pony was saying is okay how many times do we have to see them have good regular seasons and flame out in the playoffs and I but the question was were they a loser in free

Agency so what I am saying is they set an expectation that they were going to make changes from the very end of that Packers game and they’ve done nothing right but are there any changes other than the coaching quarterback that would make you more optimistic about them

Their playoff chances next year I mean are you telling me that any big free agent move or trade was completely off the table for them because of like money no but what was it what what could they have done mean Christi wi was on the Cowboys right that’s what I’m talking

About they could have gone out there and signed a huge defensive player or they could have signed Kelvin Ridley or one of these running backs I don’t know something Nick something that isn’t what they’re doing the defensive player thing I buy Ridley or the running backs wouldn’t have made any okay fair enough

But I’m just saying like I you’re you’re you’re trying to back me into a corner here on like is there any they’ve done nothing so I still think Miami is far in away the bigger loser well they they’ve certainly lost the most right no team in

The NFL has lost more yeah than than I mean kendle Fuller but look at all the players I guess the chargers chargers maybe You’ put you’d put them there the Chargers yeah but that’s offset by Harbaugh being hired as their coach listen I think Miami’s in a really rough

Spot yeah I think the Miami’s defense wasn’t good you talk about the the same every year with the weather getting let me ask a spin-off question off of that then is the is the percentage higher than 25% that in 2025 they will have a new coach and a new quarterback in

Miami I don’t think that that’s on the table I think I think a new well I think it definitely is on the table I don’t think it’s 50/50 but I think it’s around I think it maybe 25% to why would McDaniel be in trouble why why wouldn’t he be I mean I

Think he’s a good coach and and the offensive production also listen I I here’s where I would be okay with McDaniel being in trouble if he greenlights them giving to an extension and it seems like they’re going to at that if you’re the head coach and you

Have some power and you Greenlight the extension you then can’t be like you I no longer will give you the benefit of the held back by the quarterback because you’ve tied yourself to him well yeah I mean let’s see how good their offense is this year they still have wad they still

Have Tyreek they still have Tua they still have McDaniel if he goes three years without winning a playoff game and it’s two one and duns and they go like six and 11 this year I don’t think he’ll be back and I don’t think Tua will be back uh reminder for the audience if

You’re listening on the first and pod feed uh I’m Nick Wright from FS1 and what’s right with Nick Wright uh if you’re listening on the what’s right feed it’s Danny Parkins Danny so they know your voice hello there you go and Andrew philipon he now there you go so

The the you can you also if you’re a what’s right listener should subscribe to the first and pod uh football podcast all right we got a really go fast yeah we got to go very fast all right Ravens Eagles Packers which big name running back signing do you like the most none

Of them I like none of them you think that’s not the question pick one you don’t think that the Ravens would have been committed to a more balanced attack in the playoffs if they had Derrick Henry on the Rost last I think the narrative surrounding that Ravens

Playoff loss is so hilarious which is all year long if you were not laying flowers at Lamar’s feet about about what a brilliant passer he’d become all of this you were called a hater and then in the playoff game everyone’s answer is how dumb were the Ravens letting Lamar

Pass well they played right into the chief’s game plan which was put the ball in the MVP’s hands and now the Ravens are I think tacitly admitting okay yeah we kind of have to be a Smashmouth run team and I also I just I I will take the

Under on Derk Henry’s production this year I will do that so I I don’t like that so if it’s set at if it’s set at a th000 yards you would go under that yes I would not I I really don’t like the sequan deal they paid him the exact

Money that Patrick Queen got they need back seven guys not a linebacker I’m fine with the Packers because they’re young and it’s fine well so I’m just just I’m surprised I would say the Ravens I’m surprised by the Packers one I’m just surprised by it Aaron Jones Is

Awesome they called him the best player on their team last year and he was Dom in the playoffs I know Jacobs is younger but he’s old like in terms of the the wear on the tires so I think Aaron Jones is awesome so that one that one

Surprised me I think the Derrick Henry signing can I say something about Aaron Jones he had 650 yards last year look at his playoff game look I no I get it he kicked the Cowboys ass I understand that and I the I tend to when when teams

Don’t want to bring back their own running backs sure I tend to think they’re right that’s all Jets what is Aaron Rogers doing no I don’t the listen I the uh the Jets here’s the analogy I’ll give because I Robert sa and Joe Douglas have to hate what’s happened here oh yeah but

They’d be fired without him so what you have in New York is a I would say lower a poor family a family that struggles to make ends meet whose 10-year-old just got cast as the new Harry Potter and is they are all of a sudden Rich beyond their imagination and

Around the time the second movie’s coming out the 11-year-old now has figured out hold on a minute he has all the power charge here my parents can never get H they they only can live this life because of me and I will do literally whatever I want and dare them to punish

Me cuz I’ll turn the faucet off that’s what’s happened and Aaron roders is the 11-year-old drunk with power like oh we’re going to talk about distractions out of the building except I am going to allow to be floated I might be the next Vice President we are going I’m going to

Go on a podcast and talk about the fact that I think mountains used to be giant trees and and all of this nonsense and a and I dare you to do something about it so I think the jets are in the worst position of any team in the NFL I’ll

Just add to that because that analogy was brilliant it’s never good if you’re going to AI to release a statement saying that you believed Sandy Hook happened yeah that’s a that’s just a bad spot to be we need to go very fast Giants and Panthers the burns trade

Reaction Carolina could have had two first round picks for this guy in Season what what a disaster you think the Jets organization is a train wreck look at Carolina right the Bryce Young trade and the the Brian Burns non trade is all time can I give a counterintuitive take

On that Brian burn story I agree with everything with that people are saying good job by the Giants I actually like it for the Giants good value that’s fine the bigger story to me is not the bigger but an underrated story is that would have been one of the worst

Trades ever if the Rams would have made by the Rams correct the Rams offering two ones in a two for the League’s eighth best Edge rusher to only give him 100 plus million bananas you know what’s interesting about that is that lesne had this impulsiveness to want to do that in

Season and they’ve done next to nothing now yeah no I think that you’re right maybe sanity set in all right next uh lions and Niners status quo good enough for some of the best teams in the NFC I don’t know if it is status quo for the

Niners I think that you know you lose Eric Armstead you’re yeah but you traded for the Houston defensive tackle to take his spot sure and you added Leonard Floyd I get that I also it’s been quiet but the iuk thing seemed to be a thing

Uh and good enough to still be a playoff team like sure and for the Lions I think that they’re in great shape personally I those when you’re that young of a team you get better just by a year passing you know what I mean just by those guys getting experience yeah and Branch’s

Back safety he’ll be he’ll be recover yeah I mean the biggest thing for the Lions is that that Ben Johnson didn’t take a head coaching job some somehow I agree I do not understand how that happened next the Bucks they kept the band back together can they win the

South they can but I I think and I like Baker a lot I think they overachieved a bit last year and I think that they’re probably in the same boat where can I ask you what when you say I like Baker a lot what does that mean what like for

For someone who likes Baker a lot what does that to 15 quarterback top 10 no no no no I I actually meant personally oh I meant personally and I think that teammates like him I think he’s a leader I think he is tough as hell yeah

Uh well that cost him his job in right and but he is to me he is right at average you know what I mean if we were you said to he is at best 13th and at worst 19th and he’s probably 16th I just think that the Falcons probably have

Correctly Leap Frog what an incredible sense of loyalty from Mike Evans I mean the guy’s gonna go into the Hall of Fame he’ll play his whole career with the bucks he got his ring what is it nine straight a thousand yard seasons yeah at this point guys I I I thought that at

Some point he would look to do a Hollywood Brown deal go give the Chiefs a discount and try to get another ring and ring Chas I think because he has a ring he doesn’t need to I know but it’s just it’s an awesome Legacy you just don’t see it anymore sure all right

Bengals Browns are these Ohio teams any closer to challenging Kansas City no okay all right good good question no I mean do you think so I think the Bengals are good I’m I they’re good but what how are they closer well they got their defense sucked ass last year I mean let’s just

Come right out and say it it was awful that had really not that much to do with Joe burrow and their coach uh anuma who basically was like thought of as this Patrick Mahomes Kryptonite coach they went from having a defense that could stymy him to like being 30th in the

League so they brought Stone in who had what seven or eight interceptions in Baltimore and they signed someone to play their defensive line so like they’ve made the moves around the margins to fill out their team and the T Higgins thing is T hiin is still hiin

Thing is the weird thing and that’s why I I have to see how that lands before I can give them a real grade is that everybody that’s everybody no it’s not what oh what do we have who do we leave out well we left out commanders and Seahawks what’s up with the how

Trade oh I go ahead you go I mean it’s just it’s wild if that’s a spot that also isn’t available for Justin Fields because of Sam how because they’re saying they came out and very publicly committed to Gino Smith with the guaranteed money did they well look

Saying all of that publicly who cares their actions speak louder than words it’s like to me Sam Howell is not going to challenge Gino Smith to be the starting quarterback I’m not saying he’s going to challenge him to be the starting quarterback but my guess is by Thanksgiving he’s this he’s the Seahawk

Starting quarterback I disagree oh I disagree I don’t think Sam hell is good at all I think that the I the commanders are obviously going to draft either mayor wait a minute if you’re the Seahawks and you’ve got new coaches right and you get to the midpoint of the

Season and you’re like four and and goino Smith doesn’t have a future there why wouldn’t you see what Howell has because you can see what Howell has by turning on his film for his entire NFL career that’s what I think all right one of these two people wrote a book it’s

Coming out in a few weeks we discuss that next what’s right and the first and pod podcast crossover all right welcome back in what’s right with Nick Wright and first in pod it’s a first ever crossover episode we’ve ever done this will show up on both of the podcast feeds Danny

Parkins Andrew Philip Pony from first and pod and they’re also going to be on first things first uh on Friday uh which depends on when you’re listening to this it’s you know whatever doesn’t matter uh Danny yes sir I couldn’t believe you were doing this when you told me you

Were doing it it was it was a dumb idea so I’m holding this up to the camera I I dumb idea is not the right word it was it was a big T undertaking yeah so Danny Parkins and his dear friend Ben Kaplan wrote a book called pipeline to the pros

And when I say wrote a book not like a pamphlet like a real long book it comes out with like a real publisher and stuff behind no no no a whole thing go ahead it comes out yeah it it comes out April 16th pipeline of the pros how D3 small

College nobody’s Rose to rule the NBA okay so listen I’ve read the book it’s outstanding Jeff B gun wrote the forward uh and it is do you guys remember when we were in college and like I feel like you tried to dunk a basketball and broke your

Wrist that happened that’s not the story I was going to go through uh I feel like it was a big thing at we our College radio station and now I don’t quite remember it it was called like the Cradle of coaches or the Cradle of quarterback it was some area of Ohio

That like all these Miami Ohio was the Cradle of coaches and like all of these coaches came from all these NFL coaches came from NFL okay so the premise of this book well I’m going to let Danny describe it uh but it is wild when you

When you get into the actual numbers and how division 3 college basketball had how those guys have become some of the biggest power Brokers in the NBA and what it teaches us about where the league is headed and how it got there is fascinating so you go and EXP explain it

Yeah so I didn’t know anything about this story right we went to Syracuse but we have a very big powerful Alumni network of broadcasters uh much like you know Wharton business school or Harvard Medical School it’s it’s a powerful Network well these guys who For the Love

Of the Game basically After High School didn’t want to give up the game but had no dreams of playing at a Syracuse or a duke or a North Carolina and were smart went to these liberal arts colleges to get a good education and it was the only

Place that they could play and then they realized as the game in the league was getting smarter that they had a unique ability because of their intelligence how you have to teach the game at that level you’re more of a teacher than like a talent manager and they also could

Speak basketball because it’s a pretty damn high level of competition that they were uniquely qualified to be excellent coaches and front office members a few years ago 13 of 30 teams had either a head coach or a top decision maker as in like president of basketball operations

The number one guy in an organization that had played or coached D3 so we’re talking about yeah give us some of the names so we’re talking about like Greg papovich Sam presty with the Knicks both Tom Fido and Leon Rose uh the forward by Jeff Van Gundy Stan Van Gundy he hires

Tibs Steve Clifford uh Frank vogle Mike botin Holzer so all of these guys so not just so not just the powerful gu guys but some of the most well-regarded Champion coaches or Championship level coaches yeah I mean Kobe Alman who runs the Cavs raell Stone

Who runs the rockets and so what we did was Brad Brad Stevens I talked to Brad Stevens for 90 minutes I mean so we talked to these guys Brad Stevens was D3 guy yeah yep yeah and so we talked to these guys and the network that they’ve created we

Talked at this radio conference right we helped our friends along the way these guys helped their friends along the way and it was once a couple of them got in Jeff Van Gundy and Greg papovich uh probably is the biggest modern names that you would know they

Said it really is just teaching I just need people who can teach these guys basketball players want to learn they don’t care if you’re six foot nothing 150 pounds if you can teach Patrick euwing how to be better or you can teach Tim Duncan to be better it doesn’t

Matter that you could have never played at his level and so that’s the basketball side the things that they’ve impacted in NBA history are incredible but it’s also I think it’s like a management primer it’s a story of networking it’s about the value of a good liberal arts education it’s uh I I

Think people would really get a lot out of it so listen it is if you’re a big NBA fan yes it is I think one of the best in kind of unique idea NBA books to come out in years even though but if you are watching this and you’re not a big

NBA fan it is if it is applicable to a lot of fields about how to find talented people in maybe not the places you would initially think to I wanted to ask you a couple other questions though because I will hardy is a guy I don’t know if you

Mentioned him Chris Finch obviously talked to both of them for the book and so when did this really start like is there a you mentioned the van gundies but was there a moment where you saw like oh it went from being there was one guy like this to a surplus of guys like

This yeah I me so like in the post so you can go back further right with like a Carl Shear or a norm Sanju and like some of the guys like Carl Shear helped the the nuggets and the ABA transformation and bringing all-star weekend to the NBA all sorts of like you

Can go back in NBA history and find one-offs um Bill muscleman guys like that but Greg papovich and Jeff Van gun after them they I mean they hired everybody I mean Sam pry gets hired by pop and then Sam pry starts emailing these nescac schools these Northeast liberal arts schools emailing their

Coaches and saying hey do you have anyone on your staff but or on your on your team on your roster or your managers who are smart and could apply like data sciences and then he hires them to run their kind of like what bellich did for a lot of the D3 guy it’s

It sounds remarkably like that yeah it’s it’s ve it’s very similar and I mean and BR bringing guys into the video coordinator rooms coaching staffs have been expanded the g-league all of that stuff and so there’s just there’s more opportunity now it’s not just I got four

Assistant coaches and I’ve got to fill it with an X NBA player all right real quick before we uh wrap up yeah it what’s the push back on this by put not on your book but on the I imagine are some people that are like

Yeah and that’s why guys who play in the league who have real hands on the ground experience playing Big Time basketball that there’s not as much room for them is there a level of I don’t know if resentment is the right word but push back or resentment or anything well so

We asked all these guys for stories about you know people challenging them and players not buying in and all of that and it was a wide range like some guys were like absolutely like huie brown talking about Oscar Robertson like thinking he was going to drown him in an

Ocean talk to hu Brown for 2 hours and 45 minutes in the book uh Jeff Van Gundy though was like I would have never been hired if it wasn’t an interim job no no team would have ever believed in me but I got the interim job and I had humble

Superstars and Patrick Ying vouched for me and then made his career so those anecdotes are more on like a case-by case basis but there are a lot of unique challenge uh challenges there and then I would just also just like to say one more thing like uh I’m donating the money

That I make to bra canc research toin up in honor my brother Brad this you mentioned like you couldn’t believe I was taking this on um Ben’s dad diagnosed with a rare disease after we started uh the book passed away both my dad and brother passed away all

During the process from like concept to publication so it’s a story like for us it’s an accomplishment of like friendship it was a distraction perseverance and we’re hoping to raise a little bit of money for brain cancer research and honor my brother also so the people the first and pod crew knows

At Danny’s brother uh about three and a half years ago was diagnosed about three and a half years ago was diagnosed with gluto blastoma I mean I guess actually coming up on four and a half years ago oh for my apology yeah yeah he yeah um

And made it for almost three years yeah so he’s I guess yes so we’re coming out in four years because he’s been dead he died last Easter so yeah yeah uh and so that went through that entire process during the writing of this book so as he mentioned he every dollar that he

Generates from this will go to the research to try it which they’ve made real strides on just in the last since I’ve been familiar with the last few years but it is still considered an uncurable form correct of brain cancer and so the book is pipelined to the pros

People can pre-order it now oh yeah pre-orders are going pre-orders are going very well and uh it’s it you’d have it April 16th April 16th uh right before Easter this year right or right around Easter this year pipeline to the pros they can just Google it like is

There a website to go to or I me yeah just just Google pipeline of the pros it’s available Barnes and Noble Amazon wherever you get your books Triumph books.com but yeah it’s it’s in my Twitter handle it’s the pins tweet you just pipeline to the pros uh you’ll find

It awesome it’s I we about a year ago on this show we did book club we then stopped it because I didn’t really know how to do book club I would just like read chapters on the air it was terrible podcasting uh but this book is worthwhile for everyone and I really

Hope the what’s Right audience obviously the first and po audience uh checks it out all right fellas we got to go great job everyone thank you for the bonus episode uh if you’re listening on First and pods feed subscribe to the what’s right podcast if you’re listening on the

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