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Justin Fields finally got traded! Come hang out with Matt, Theo, and Blaiden while they break down all the NFL news on this episode of Stay Hot🔥

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(00:00) INTRO
(04:45) Justin Fields Trade
(16:01) Keenan Allen Trade
(18:36) Los Angeles Chargers
(23:58) Minnesota Vikings
(32:07) Williams vs. Maye vs. Daniels
(40:44) Aaron Donald RETIRED
(52:51) Tennessee Titans
(55:16) New York Jets
(1:00:32) Dallas Cowboys
(1:08:37) OUTRO

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What is up hotties welcome back to another episode of stay hot I’m Bladen Kirk joined as always by my two favorite co-hosts of all time Matthew spawn hour and Theo Ash and there has been a lot of NFL news circulating recently Justin Fields finally got traded Aaron Donald

Retired the Vikings are making some crazy moves ahead of NFL draft we’ve got a lot to talk about today but before we get into that Matt Theo how are you doing on this beautiful Sunday morning this is the probably the earliest record we’ve ever had it’s up there but it’s St Patrick’s

Day and yes it is not a single one of us is wearing green or has anything Green in frame wait wait wait wait wait this this is green but you can’t really tell you have to believe me no you have to believe me this dark a little fraudulent

But okay we’ll give it to you fabric is a green Hue but I’m in Boston still and I will be going to their St Patrick’s Day Parade which figures to be good time lit yeah um I hope you have fun it’s gonna be lit I’m honestly a fan of the

Early record though I kind of like you know 9:30 is not too early for me and I don’t want to say knock it out in the sense that it’s a sure but uh going through the rest of the day without like something I need to do at like 500 p.m.

Plus the natural lighting being available to me with my big window i’ I’m a fan of the it’s I like it it’s not a horrible it’s not a horrible thing we will be having conversations conversations having this stay hot recording time conversation but instead of holding a meeting in the middle is

Realizing instead of holding a meeting chat in the middle of the podcast Bladen how are you doing uh I’m doing all right you know I haven’t uh haven’t been up to Too Much I Feel Like I my band atessa just dropped our first single hey check it out on

Spotify is it onle I need like a blad and fan cam so I can go and reply to everything on Twitter stream stream AA stream it might be funny I might do that yeah it’s it’s called Last Dance I have a pretty sick guitar solo in it

It’s not very long but it’s cool is it about Jerry no it’s about um oh what is it is about a TV show it’s about um it’s Jordan propaganda I’m not I’m not making the fan cam if that’s the case buddy it is not Jordan no no uh our lead singer

Carla she wrote the lyrics about a show it’s not and I can’t remember what it’s called but she she wrote it about a show just about um is there a character from a show called like Mr Darcy oh are you talking about Pride and Prejudice yes the movie in the book God

Yeah yeah that’s what the that’s what the song’s about my boy Matthew mcfaden and Kira nightly in the movie yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s what the song is about so and then I got roasted on Twitter for saying that applesauce belongs on mashed potatoes yeah that I

Mean that thing is that’s just insane people roasting me is insan bro come on that’s a perfectly normal food combination no it’s not yes it is have you ever had lotas no I don’t think so okay that’s that’s where it comes from it’s like people dip lotas into applesauce like

It’s like potato pancakes but instead of using syrup you use applesauce I I I think I think potato pancake isn’t mashed potatoes though I feel like app the thing that’s already mashed just might be a little bit of a sloppy too sloppy a texture I understand the the

The potato and apple combo which I’m not opposed to but in that app texture thing for you well yeah applesauce in mashed potatoes would you put applesauce in water and drink it you know it’s the same exact literally could not be more similar one to one you know

It’s it is not that one to one at all it is it is not I’m trying to think if there’s anything else going on I don’t think so my flag football team Fields got traded Fields didn’t get traded who is better Justin fields or my flag football

Team is the real question I think Justin Fields would go for a couple touchdowns on your on your flag football team I felt very important because I was at a dinner party last night with some Patriots fans and they are obviously very interested in what the Patriots quarterback situation will look like and

Fields was of often discussed possibility and then I you know got the phone notification and saw the news that he got traded and I like was able to make a a large announcement oh you I W bomb the like the glass that would have been basically did basically did I basically

Did like no way he went for as little as M Jones that loser like yeah he went for a sixth and with potential to be a fourth and apparently the rumors are that the Steelers don’t intend to play him at all this year I don’t know how

They could know that already I guess your plan is Russ right like they they planned on Russ I my first reaction was I kind of get it we sat here the entire offseason talking about how like yeah maybe we would try out fields for the sake of like there might not be 32

Reasonable quarterback Solutions and he’s got some rushing upside and whatnot but we’re three years in and and he hasn’t panned out right MH we we expected like maybe a team to give up the darnold package like a second and a little bit more or maybe like a third

And a little bit more but we wouldn’t have supported that moovie we would have been like that’s not right outside of maybe the idea of well you got to do something yeah I guess he’s got like that that’s what it would have been but it seems like teams just nobody was

Actually bought into that nobody was going to do that and the second that you’re not like well we’re going to roll into Fields as the starter next year he’s a one-year rental because you’re not picking up that fifth year option and a one-year rental of of field

Is worth a day two pick I think no way right I think no shot so I guess I’m a little surprised that it’s a conditional sixth but really it’s a six and a four if he actually plays I don’t think it’s that that shocking and

I’m I I I guess I would start Fields over Russ for the sake of the upside because I don’t think Russ has a ton in the tank but I’m also not stunned that like yeah Russ didn’t sign there to be the back up the fields man so yeah

Right you can let him have a good old competition you know like I agree I agree you’re right you’re right I don’t know if I would be saying right now like there’s no way in hell that we start Justin Fields yeah over Russ no matter what uh you got to have a competition

And they will I I don’t know what the rumors are but if if Fields just like looks way better than Russ throughout training camp and like is lighting it up in the preseason and Russ is not it’s hard to believe that there wouldn’t be conversations like maybe Fields should start because

Fields I think did get railroaded a bit by the Bears and the way they built off their built out their offense especially with the 2022 Draft before they traded for DJ Moore uh it was a new coaching staff you know new GM you know Matt

Naggie was over he was free of that and they still didn’t get him any support outside of vus Jones in that year and that was pretty painful I think for for his development I think that that was a big nail in the coffin and yes they got DJ

Moore and that was great and then they got darell right so it got a little bit better but it was just a little bit you know too little too late season away from being a season away even though they made the Right Moves or they had

Some hits last year it still wasn’t up far yeah and I think Fields I I think that he could definitely be better than he showed in Chicago and somewhere else but I do think that he is slow going through his reads like I just don’t think that he processes information

Extremely quickly he’s got all the athleticism he’s got the arm you know he’s got he’s a big game hunter with downfield accuracy so he’s explosive and all that and we saw him you know if he can get that rushing magic back that he had at the end of 2022 when he was like

Ripping off 50 yarders every game like that’s huge too but I I don’t know I I always kind of I spec I was speculating a fourth I guess before it happened I think early in the process I was speculating maybe he would get a second

Or third but it it was a fourth was kind of what I thought they might get and then the conditional six could be a fourth if he plays so yeah it’s not the most shocking thing in the world and I think the Bears kind of had to do it I

Mean they didn’t have too much leverage they they’re going to take Caleb it’s the right move we’ve gone over and over it and um I don’t think having and Williams in the same quarterback room is a healthy option I mean just the second that Caleb would make a mistake that’d

Be called for Fields again and you’re going to spend the whole offseason with that drama and every reporter is going to ask that question rightfully so but you know that’s all you’re going to talk about screw that you know yeah look at how insane the Bears fan base is being

About I mean well they were being more insane these past few months than I think I’ve seen a fan base be in my time on as an analyst I mean the mere notion that they would select Caleb Williams was met with like disgust and like rejection and like what are you talking

About until PO says it like I don’t believe that it’s happening and it was just so obvious the entire time I’ve just never seen a fan base like reject a move that’s so clearly happening I think a lot of the it’s part of partially I don’t think it’s all

Bears fans for sure I think Fields being the Young quarterback that they’ve believed in for a long time like every fan base is ridiculous about their Young quarterback and then on top of that I think Caleb Williams maybe has a particular true a particularly High number of haters because like you know

He’s painted his nails and yada y y so I think all of those things combined and it’s just a weird situation that doesn’t happen that that often um true it might not all be Bears fans I had a I had a reply yesterday that was like I said bears

Fans lock in like I know you’re sad but you got to lock in you have Mo you have Keenan you have you have Williams it’s going to be good and then a reply was I just don’t like Caleb and then someone was like why not and like you should and

The replies to that guy and then he said well I’m not a Bears fan I just don’t like Caleb and it’s like this was a tweet about Bears fans like maybe it just is Caleb haters from other fan bases pretending to be Bears fans cuz that’s what that guy was doing this

Doesn’t even feel like I don’t even know if it’s necessarily that a lot of people are Caleb haters I feel like a lot of people that are Caleb Caleb haters are also May haters I haven’t I mean how many they’re like it’s it’s I don’t mean to interrupt you it’s the winning in

College is what it is it’s like the they’re overthinking this the traits it’s JJ McCarthy it’s that type of stuff and I’m not to call out MTH specifically but like how penx and and McCarthy and nicks were all although you know McCarthy whatever like how were they in

The Heisman race and and these guys weren’t but then these guys are better they’re overthinking it they love people love they’re overthinking it’s like not really man yeah had a Heisman he won the Heisman so who knows yeah yeah well I guess the thing that is I guess understandable from bear Twitter and

What I think it’s really about is they just are sick of starting over at the quarterback position and they just don’t want to do it again they think it means another timeline reset they mean they think it means we’re going to be bad again next year with a rookie we’re into

The unknown it seemed like we were starting to turn things around in the back half of last year and instead of continuing that momentum into something great we’re now blowing it up starting over and now we could go three and 14 again next year but I I don’t think

That’s going to happen because the rest of the the rest of the roster isn’t like leaving with Fields it’s just fields and a lot of the reason for the the turnaround last year was the defense like that was what was ranking so high not the not the offense of results which

Were pretty average in the in even the back half of last season so it it I think that’s the main catalst to like why these Bears fans were so enamored with the idea of keeping Fields is they just didn’t want start over no matter what and then you look at Caleb and they

Don’t like him and they’re like we’re starting over for this bis fake bisexual and uh you hear what I I saw some tweet the other day and I didn’t look into it almost at all but I just saw somebody being like you know the report I’ve heard teams are

Looking into some negative things about Caleb and then like no explanation of it at all and like oh I saw that I saw that too and then someone asked what the explanation was like are we ever going to hear what these bad things are and

Then I think it was um G gra Greg Gabriel the old bears like kudin former Scout or whatever and then he’s like no that’s personal it’ll never see the light of day and it’s like well what what are you talking about like what are these things that like what is my

Takeaway supposed to be was like well I like there are things conversation closed doors and there like what are the things how dare you ask what the things are like that’s personal like what I also know going on I I I go back to to you know I think a lot of the

Problem stems not only from starting over but wouldn’t it be cool if you already had the quarterback and then you could do something else with the first overall pick like that would just be better right and it’s like if you’ve already believed in fields this long it’s like

Man I wish it was like that but I don’t think they’re going to be starting over I I think honestly if you hit on a number one overall pick quarterback he’s probably going to be very good very soon especially if you surround him with real weapons from the jump

Which the the Bears have a chance to do I I mean really you could be one of the better first overall pick QB Landing spots in a while man I mean usually it’s like Lawrence was just a disaster year one and Bryce young was just a disaster

Year one I don’t see any reason why it should be like that I even if you don’t go and land like adun or neighbors with the nine getting any of those top guys and throwing in there and you’ve got the tackle last year you got DJ Moore Keenan Allen I think is a

Great pickup yeah got to talk about that the fourth round pick for Keenan there’s not too much to say I think um he’s gonna be a good compliment to DJ Moore I think those two skill sets are great next to each other looking at Keenan Allen versus Man versus Zone he’s

Much better versus Zone his EPA per Target is like double versus Zone and it just makes sense like he’s not a crazy athlete he’s not going to be running away from anybody at this point in his career he’s someone who wants to you know settle down and be on the same page

With Herbert and just exploit the open zones over and over and over again and then more is like substantially better running away from people like versus man like running these digs smoothly like catching and turning up field so I think I always think that you should get a wide receiving core that compliments

Each other as much as possible you don’t want redundance skill sets but so and the Bears just got that for a fourth if Keenan can stay healthy which is kind of a big question mark at this point in his career that’s the thing that could derail it I don’t see why as productive

As he was last year it can’t be a a very good Duo of of Kenan and DJ and Caleb and KT and we’ll see what they do with the center position because that’s a massive gigantic hole but yeah to go from an to go from class for Caleb

Williams to go from an offense that was you know we’ve talked about how out of structure it was and Theo I think it was you that said it felt like they don’t practice sometimes just because of how it lacked timing to now you’re going to

Be able to have DJ Moore and you can have Keenan Allen who might be one of the best you know timing threats in football and then you can have Cole Keda tight end I mean that I think that’s going to make Caleb Williams jump to the NFL very easy

Yeah I I I I think having the QB friendly guy is is big I think this is a really solid investment because now it feels like if you leave the draft without a wide receiver you’re okay you have multiple guys there it’s not just DJ and whatever you should still draft a

Guy I think you should still draft if it’s a Dunes a neighbors and you can make that move you didn’t invest so much that it feels kind of redundant that you’re you’re ignoring other positions also Allan last year 13 games 150 targets is insane man and that’s the thing and that makes

You question the other side of this trade which is not his fault not it’s not where are those targets gonna go man where hopefully Odun hopefully my boy Odun neighbors is okay as well but har the way things are an offensive lineman drafting an offensive lineman I think

Would be a I think you there’s you cannot leave this draft if you’re the Chargers not anymore you have to draft like multiple wide receivers in I think so I I think there there are I think there there are there’s no way I guess maybe it goes Marvin Harrison Jr Odun to the

Cardinals like and and they’re left with Neighbors which would be fine like and then you’d take neighbors but to me I have to me I have a blue chip grade I know our grades differ but I have a blue chip grade on on ad dun and and Marvin

Harrison Junior and it’s like I I just really think they should leave the draft with one of those two guys or it to me it will be I’ll be disappointed that’s that’s how I feel about it and I I understand trading Keen in a way even though he had all these targets

Because I think that this receiving core just needs a complete rebuild like from top to bottom and if Eden is going to be there he’s probably going to demand another he’s probably going to lead the team in targets and that might be better served going to a rookie uh so I I I

They saved so much money from moving on from him and and Mike Williams so I understand it I think that b rebuilding it from the ground up is going to be okay because they have the opportunity to draft someone special and they’re probably going to be leaning on their

Run game early under our ball right so I I don’t know though it’s like Greg Roman and that amount of talent it’s kind of screaming passing game disaster at the moment I don’t know if I think if you put her Herbert and Odun together it’ll be okay like I think

They’ll be really productive if you put Herbert and neighbors together even it would be very very productive right like I just I think anyone with Herbert is going to be good um so but it’s it’s pretty bleak the state of the Chargers these last couple years

And uh yeah yeah I mean they they have to recover from the mistakes of the they have to recover from the mistakes of the previous regime right similar to like not nearly to the same extent but similar to the Panthers where you are suffering currently from the sins of the

Past and like getting off of Keenan and Mike Williams is probably more so a move to free up cap for next free agency yeah exactly so that you can make those big splashes when you need to it’s and you just have to draft well this year yeah

The I I think it’s wise I think it’s wise in a vacuum not to hang on and pay those guys a bunch of money when honestly when this team will be competitive they will probably be aged out of being super super effective and you’ll have to anyway and it’s

Short-term pain but building things out not you know knowing it’s going to take a little while and and trusting the process a little bit is a good thing their dead cap is hilarious it is $50 million they are giving JC Jackson $20 million this year um but you got to do

What you got to do and honestly stacking up even it seems like but like trying to stack up like some day three picks and doing stuff like that and they’ve got extra Capital just give yourself a lot of swings and then and see what happens yeah when you’ve got an engine like

Herbert your swings have a much higher chance of working out as well you know that’s just is how it when you have Rogers you never need to spend a first round pick on a wide receiver you can spend them all on day two and and they become franchise Legends right like they

Just when you have that thing that is powering everything like you can plug in different pieces and they’re going to light up like I so yeah to get those later on draft picks I think drafting offense gives anybody a very good chance to succeed unless you take Quinton Johnston I guess

Um yeah but uh if you take someone good then they should be good you know so I I I don’t disagree I think that it was the right move from the Chargers I think they were a bit too Keenan was very good for them last year but they were just

Too Keen in independent and for the cost it’s it’s okay if another team becomes Keen independent next year because yeah it’s it’s time to move on it’s time to save cap and it’s time to rebuild so yeah for a charger point of view it’s sad that it’s gotten to this point where

You look at the depth chart and there’s like no one there and hopefully John Harbaugh knows what he’s doing and it’s not an urban Meer situation uh with Greg Roman and yeah we’ll see how bad they are I I don’t think they’re the Chargers are going to be very good next year but

Um I think they could be good two years from now and I think they could be fine next year if they I think they still could be fine but they’re not be contenders yeah they they before anything else yeah for anything else but uh speaking of teams with needing to hit

On their picks the Minnesota Vikings are trying to give themselves a very good shot to hit on some picks they traded up to have another first round pick sitting at 23 are they making a shot to get into the top 10 certainly appears that way unless they just love the number 23 overall

Pick and just half the draft chop Robinson there or something or no no no no no no it’s it’s it’s not that they love the number 23 overall pick it’s that they’re projecting that whoever they’re trading with will I guess the trade just doesn’t really make sense I’m

Sorry everyone looked at me like it was talking to me like I was crazy what is the point of doing this well they’re they’re trying to stack up draft Capital what did they trade to get the 23rd pick draft Capital yeah they lost a little value for the sake of trading up

Which is fine if you’re trading up for a reason I know this has been done before but I just do not think it makes sense like why would you not just trade what you gave up for the 23rd pick and then let whatever team you trade with if a

Trade does happen decide if they want to make the move that you just made I mean I guess the two first just sounds better but I don’t know maybe they talked to is that it I I don’t entirely disagree with you Matt so no no no no no no they talk

To the team that they’re going to trade with and the trade is for sure going to happen but they haven’t actually made the move yet and also whatever team that they’re talking with couldn’t do it themselves no the Vikings have to go make that deal and

Then and then they can move it to them instead of the other way around like like it’s just a little goofy you know I don’t know the inner workings of it but like I know in the in all the trade value calculator charts it seems like the Texans gained

More in draft value by the equivalent of about anywhere ranging from a third to like a fifth round pick in the projections that I saw right it’s not a ton but it’s just like for the sake of being like we can give you an extra first rounder and that sounds good it’s

Like I maybe maybe they’re right maybe the Vikings are right but I just think it’s silly if other teams are looking at the same trade value charts that Twitter has with you know Spielberger and Ben Baldwin and you know all these all these analytics guys they would say

I’d rather have the pics you gave to the Texans than the Texans pick yeah you know who else the Texans the Texans are literally like you’re wrong by the way the pick we just gave you is worth less this isn’t a draft night trade where it’s like here’s a certain guy that we

Want yeah this is months out dude the Texans are literally saying like this if we were in the shoes of the team that you were trying to trade with we’d rather have what you just gave us versus that 23d pick yeah so it it doesn’t pass the initial Common Sense test where it’s

Like the Vikings downgraded in draft value to go move up it’s like didn’t you already have those exact yes they did I I know it’s like I’m sure somewhere it’s like maybe the GM of of whoever the commanders or the Patriots just likes the sound of the

First and they do prefer it and it is what the Vikings everybody’s board is different so maybe if they then they’re dumb I think then they’re a little silly I think or maybe it’s all board-based who Eagles trade with who did the Eagles trade with to move up for Wentz I can’t

Remember at all they the Titans had the number one overall pick and then and then it was I don’t remember yeah look it up but um I don’t know I guess every GM is different and their board Falls different maybe they don’t want to move too far back where they’re like moving

From number four to like number 40 I don’t know but I guess they’d get number 11 hypothetically maybe the Vikings want to hold on to their first next year and if they have to give up two first to move that’s what that’s what I would think but it’s still that is like still

Just kind of silly to like no matter how you look at it it’s a little silly I think I think that it is yeah well it has to be too it can’t be the equivalent with other picks you know it’s got to be it’s got to be the first actual first

And we’re not making that trade and otherwise we’re maybe they just want someone at 23 maybe they don’t want to trade up at all and we’re all over awesome like they and they stick at 23 so the Eagles traded up from pick 13 to pick eight with the dolphins and then

They traded up from pick eight to pick two with the brown did that happen on draft night no it happened before I remember sitting in class when that move dropped it was not a draft and the second trade was with Cleveland so that trade being dumb by the receiver team

That checks out Matt who did this is the 2016 Cleveland Browns that checks who did they take with the eighth overall pick I Gilbert that was Gilbert right it may have been Gilbert was that I feel Gilbert was a little bit earlier than that though I think Gilbert was long ago

2016 was a long time ago I but I think that Gilbert was even it doesn’t matters it it matters oh did did the Browns trade out of that pick too yes and then that was was that no that wasn’t Coleman it was Coleman it was Coleman my brown took Coleman at

15 fair enough yeah the Browns traded back to 15 again after that that was with they traded back with the Titans so Theo you’re right the Titans were involved with that the Titans took Jack Conlin and then the Browns took Corey Coleman right yeah all that is to say yeah

Yeah all that is to say um I I I I mean I guess like if if the Vikings are trading up for Drake May who cares oh like Who who okay who gives I’m being annoying about it fair enough like who cares at the end of the day and if

This is what they need to do go for it if they’re trading up for anybody other than May that’s how I feel and and I and I still feel like I’m a little dubious that may is going to beat traded for a bow like I understand that Daniels is

Going to be the number two overall pick in all the betting markets like the commanders love them or whatever he’s going to be the pick we I’m just missing something um sure whatever but like why would New England not take him at number three I guess maybe maybe it’s not

Unfathomable that if Washington has a lower grade on May the Patriots could too and would rather trade back or take Marvin if if that’s the only way that I can think of this playing out is because Washington is certainly not just going to trade out

Of two and just go like no QB but maybe maybe it’s like to a point where maybe it’s to a point where the Patriots think the gap between pinck and may is not big enough for something like that and then the 203d pick is for the Patriots so they like

Have a pick they feel secure with getting pinck with whereas like at 34 Maybe gets a little bit more up in the air at 23 it feels like a little bit better of a lock plus you have the fifth year option which you’d want if you’re taking a quarterback that high I don’t

Know I would I personally if May was there at three and I was a p I would feel like that was a bail and I would take that and then yeah start looking for weapons on day two that’s what I would do pretty easily yeah yeah or you

Could just pick Marv would you rather have Marv or Picks 11 and 23 I’d rather have Marv than Pix 11 and 23 certainly but I’d rather have may than than Marv I’d take May number two overall you got to take the QB shot so but you know not everybody is as high on

May as us I know I’m calling the commanders idiots and say they should just none of these rumors should exist and it should be a stone that they take may but maybe I just am missing something I man I don’t think I I don’t I don’t think so though I went back and

Watched I was like he’s he’s better than Daniel he’s goated he’s he’s go he’s goated no my my my thing is like people that love Jaden Daniels they’re like Daniels is qb1 I’m like what does Jaden Daniels do that’s better than Caleb Williams first of all like really truly

Other than other than running yeah like that’s it that’s but like that’s it right he one the highest numbers that’s what that’s how he’s better but he doesn’t I mean he’s not that’s what I’m saying like like oh yeah I watch the tape and Jaden Daniels just he’s he’s

Just I’m like what does he actually do better than Caleb Williams nothing nothing he’s he’s just fast he’s faster but he doesn’t have better pocket presence he doesn’t have a stronger arm he doesn’t he’s not more elastic he doesn’t break tackles like he’s not as physical Jaden Daniels is built like me

I cannot stress this enough there’s a picture me and me and Jaden have a picture next to each other we have the same exact frame we have the same exact picture Theo can we see this picture it’s I’ve posted it before I’m sure people have seen it it’s like Caleb is

Gonna be able to take on more contact he’s gonna be able to break tackles he’s he’s more physical he’s more strong like he I think like he targets the middle of the field more than Daniels does like he’s he’s just better I guess I guess Caleb fumbles a lot more

And he isn’t as like electric as a runner I guess in terms of speed but like like with with Daniels it’s so interesting because his superpower is his running no doubt about it but like he absolutely cannot run how he did there’s like a monkey there’s like a monkey fist like

But he’s a great R but like he’s going to hurdle you know in the EG Gap or whatever the hell and it’s like it just you that can’t possibly fly I don’t think anybody thinks it that’s going to fly I know maybe like every quarterback who’s mobile gets the whole well they’re

Going to get hurt talk but it’s really not true for all of them some guys are mobile and they avoid contact with it and some guys take more Daniels is like a light frame guy who just takes unbelievable hits and it’s like the light frame guys have a long history of

Getting hurt recently right Zach Wilson is banged up a lot like he’s had his injuries he’s got a light frame um Bryce Young Who dealt with some injuries last year not anything too crazy but you know he was banged up even even Justin Fields who is like a thicker

Is basically a thicker version of Jaden Daniels has not been into injuries before I Tyler is small and he’s banged up every single year like a lot of the smallest quarterbacks are the guys who are hurt I don’t know I just I just I don’t understand it and and I think the

Vikings are the only I could see yeah the only thing I could see with May would be his releas is slow that could be that would be the only thing where I’m like maybe you think that’s going to be a huge issue but his pocket presence is I think he

Has some accuracy issues as well like I I think sure there’s there’s a couple of things but I honestly with the slow release I think that his unreal arm Talent like just makes up for it yeah I think the ball still gets there more than quick enough yeah I

Think time he gets there the accuracy stuff too is I think a bit overrated or yeah it’s overrated in terms of how much it’s a negative because he has hit some of the craziest throws I’ve seen in this whole class with like pinpoint accuracy it’s just he’s constantly trying this [ __ ] I think

And like making things hard so he’ll miss some I don’t know I feel like Herbert had accuracy issues and Lamar had accuracy issues like Allan was like deemed like super inaccurate and I just think he’s in the mold of those guys and it’s like yeah sometimes maybe he’ll

Miss an easy one and maybe Josh Allen will miss an easy one sometimes too because he’s like putting so much on it or you know he’s just broken a tackle and now he’s throwing and he’s just like even mes at some points in his career I

Mean yeah yeah I remember there was a stretch where Mahomes couldn’t hit the easy ones and this wasn’t you know year one this was like year four yeah yeah no doubt and but you wouldn’t call them inaccurate because they’ll also hit the the high degree of difficulty they

Also do accur yeah they do really accurate things that other guys couldn’t do and it makes up for like maybe some of the layups that they hit and I I really think with all of May’s flaws it’s a it’s a play style it’s like a byproduct of his of his crazy play style

Um more than like actual negatives like no one’s perfect all the time you’re doing a bunch of crazy stuff constantly there’s going to be some moments that look bad it’s true for Mahomes it’s true for Lamar it’s true for everybody so I I would if this is a

Trade-up for May I would be very scared of the Vikings but if it’s trade up for anybody else I think they they’ give it’ be such a good landing spot if I was May I’d be I’d be putting like the Vikings lining inside my suit I’d be being like

Oh you know I i’ start making some cryptic tweets to fall certainly um yeah I I think but and it’s just hard for me to believe that like he’s actually going to fall to the point where like the Vikings really need three teams that desperately need a

Quarterback to pass on him and that is just crazy to me that that that could actually happen so I still think that this might all be to trade up for like Jaden or marthy which I would not like but who knows this episode of stay hot

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Retiring Aaron Donald Aaron Donald done little bit of a I’d say a lot of bit of a surprise I don’t think we really heard anything going into this off se but I will say it’s been boiling for a while it’s been and that’s exactly what I was going to say it’s been

Boiling for a minute like was it two years ago that he was talking about oh he filed the paperwork he filed the paperwor reti and then got like a like an outlier contract that was just like absolutely crazy after he submitted the retirement paper so it was like kind of a leverage play

Because like he just got a huge contract and then they won the Super Bowl I think I don’t think it was really leverage I think like he was really down to retire clearly clearly consider I wouldn’t have I I wouldn’t have blamed him for retiring then but it it’s just crazy

When you see a guy who is a first team allpro player retiring right he was great last year he was great that’s what I’m saying yeah he was first team all proo last year oh made yeah that’s what I’m saying he was first team all proo last year that’s his eighth First Team

All proo you know that’s tied for fifth ever he’s one of three players to have three uh defensive player of the years like he he is up there for like one of the greatest defensive players ever it’s just weird to see those guys retire like a little bit earlier than you think they

Should but at this point it’s like what else does he have to prove like what what is what else could he Poss possibly accomplish outside of like being an MVP or like maybe getting a Super Bowl MVP are you willing are you willing to play that much longer to get that

Probably not getting an MVP is not happening like I said on he had a perfect career he had a literally a perfect career first year he was Defensive Rookie of the Year and made a pro bowl then he made first team all proo each of the next one two three six

Six six years in a row Seas yeah seven seasons and then he got hurt then he got hurt was it seven it was seven in a row the next several years you’re right getting Defensive Player of the Year votes um he was second his second year in the league and defensive player of

The year then he was fourth then he was first then he was first then he was fifth then he was first and then he was third so he was top five and defensive player the year voting every year in those Seasons winning three and then he won a Super Bowl

For his team like singlehanded Aaron Donald is going to make a play he made like the big time play Ring he yeah he got the winning play in both the NFC championship and in the Super Bowl yeah like so he has a signature playoff moment where like that

Resulted in a ring like it’s perfect like there’s no career that is better than this like I’m sorry JJ wattthe heads like he was he was just as dominant but he was injured and he did not have that Aon Donald did right like it it maybe I think Lawrence Taylor you

Know he was the number one guy on some crazy defenses that won several Rings maybe he you know I think it’s him and D Donald as like I don’t know if anybody beats beats what they put forward I saw a lot of people saying Reggie oh yeah Reggie Reggie the Packers

Legend it’s tough um and and the other thing he did it all for the same team and he was the highest ever at his position yeah dude tough to beat that and it’s spotless you could you could keep going but honestly even if you stop now the

Question will always be like you know could he have kept going and going and going and there’s no reason to push yourself into your late 30s or whatever it’s like you’ve already got it so I I shout out to him unb no yeah and very secretive like

Guy like no press conference just kind of disappears and I don’t know if we’ll ever hear from him again like he’s not going to be in media I think he’s like seriously I don’t know how much we’re going to hear about Aon Donald anymore like you never hear about him my

Girlfriend just learned who he was let me make some calls we get him on stay hot I’m like yeah he’s probably the greatest football player of like the century like outside of Brady and she’s like who and I and yeah no one’s I don’t think we’re going to really see him

That’s probably correct like greatest football player of this Century outside of Brady yeah I think so I’m trying to think about who else would be in that mix but I think you’re probably right Larry Fitzgerald maybe like in terms of great like he’s ranked so highly and

Everything but I think Donald is better than Larry better at his position yeah so it’s crazy it it it heavily impacts the RAM status as Darkhorse Super Bowl contenders like I said last episode I’m not quite sure their defensive line or their defense I I think I think Super Bowl

Level now that Donald is gone I think it really might might cook them man I mean they’ve lost a lot of the stars from their stars and scrubs defense and it was a float last year which was nice I think without Aaron Donald no man I don’t know it’s gonna be

Tough I I I I think the defense could take a massive step back and I I don’t know if the offense makes yeah it’s like he was your defensive coordinator and your number one defensive player and like your number one defensive player was everything all of a sudden having like

The 300 pound you know Michael hoit in coverage isn’t so cute anymore man stop being funny real real quick however they do play in the NFC so playoffs still very much alive sure but they play in the NFC West and like Seattle seaw themselves this offse that’s

True yeah the Seahawks the Seahawks no I mean they they killed their own defense out a lot of their defense so there’s no I don’t think Seattle has not made me like feel good about their chances so and the Cardinals aren’t exactly ready now the best team either yeah they I

Mean who’s their receiver one right now I don’t know I’m a little bit disappointed in the fact that the Cardinal did like nothing in free agency outside of overpaid Justin Jones like you have Kyler like you’re kind of like you’re not ready to contend but they did

Like they sign nothing they cut DJ humph they need a tackle really badly they need a receiver really B wouldn’t say they did nothing I think some of their moves some of their moves have been really good honestly you know what pissed me off about the Ritter trade bro all of a

Sudden everybody’s hyping up Rond Del MO come on man that’s they said that was flee it’s like what are you talking about bro hey Ritter did go for more than any other quarterback this off season though you should be hyping up rondale more yourself being like was traded for an

All pro you should be you should be pushing the rondale agendas more than anybody in say like field sixth round pick pick it pick swap I literally have that TW I just and R was traed send it right now for a wide receiver and the Cardinals gave up their

Wide receiver one for Ritter this is this is a legit bro who is the Cardinals wide receivers right nows I guess but like we’re saying the same thing about you can’t just have like one guy out there Michael Wilson and Trey McBride are I guess good

Umar 1A which Mar or dun or neighbors probably like will be especially Marv if that’s who they end up getting like that does change the Outlook of like okay well now this group of like all right dudes plus Marv is pretty good when you’re not asking any of those all right

Dudes to be like the dude who’s winning plus McBride is is a very good player so I I I think maybe it’s a little maybe it’s a yeah they thing that really killed me is like I don’t think Atlanta’s receiver room is that great people are you know we were

Getting we were getting some of the you know look at the they replaced van Jefferson first of all so they got worse for no reason got worse no I like Drake London and dude Darnell Mooney and Darnell Mooney and Rond Del Moore combined for 120 Targets in 700 yards last year like

I I I’m I’m not saying that they’re necessarily like awful players or anything or you know the quarterback situation didn’t play into that Su but like these outside of a Darnell Mooney one year like 150 Target season like these guys aren’t like viig time producers they’re not like proven

Commodities they’re both kind of wide receiver threes to me and one of them has to be wide receiver two I guess maybe if they can run the whole offense through and where does Dr London rank among all wide receivers I still it’s like this is not it’s a below average receiver room now

You add in pits which you should and you add in beon which you should I think the weapons are overall a positive still but I’m not like super moved by their receivers this a good player but he’s not one of like the top tier wide receiver ones their whole team is not

Like moving to me especially like I was I was thinking about this this morning would you rather have the Vikings weapons last year or the Falcons weapons this year oh that’s not even a question that’s not even a remotely a question not even like close to a question next question Justin Jefferson

Is could be the greatest wide receiver of all time we’re talking like we’re talking the equivalent of that in the 90s would be like or 80s or whatever Jerry Rice played I’m I’m not a hundred years old so I don’t even remember uh probably both years cuz he played till

He was 40 but uh decades it’s like would you rather have the 49ers weapons or like I don’t I don’t know any I don’t even know mid ass some mid ass stupid it’d be stupid so I’m just I’m just I’m just thinking like the Falcons are like the Falcons weapons aren’t

Necessarily better than the Vikings and Kurt Cousins might be worse than he was last year coming off in Achilles injury like I don’t know if I really love coming back from that what I’m say he has to be he has to be really good and he’s really and it’s been done recently

And he’s a quarterback so it’s like I don’t want to I I can’t predict like it’s impossible to predict how that stuff is but I don’t know there just it feels like there’s a lot that could go wrong for this Falcons offense oh yeah definitely so I don’t

Know I’m the Falcons built something this year I don’t know if it I don’t know I I think that if you SL they built something so we’ll we’ll we’ll see uh if trading Ritter away ends up being the greatest mistake that franchise ever made but anyway yeah man so true

Absolutely is there anything else that we wanted to hit I thought you wanted to hit on the Titans maybe or Tyron Smith might be too yeah the Titans are also building something I guess with the Cal Ridley deal I me they got load of money

So I think it’s okay to throw a bag of cly like we’ll see what like give Lis a shot I guess get some receivers draft The Tackle probably at seven and see what you got with him um I I kind of think Levis might could be a pleasant surprise but I’m very cautiously

Optimistic I don’t really want to say too too much um we’ll see we’ll see I I don’t have too much to say about one of the better let’s see what he’s got QB that is not like a first round pick for sureh like I think I there’s genuine

Like some of these guys where it’s like I don’t want to bring it like Justin Fields where it’s like you might as well give him a shot Levis feels like you haven’t seen a ton of them and it’s been pretty good when you have and there’s some problems there and I’ve got some

Questions but he’s young enough and fresh enough like all right I’m it’s a totally reasonable thing to roll with they’re kind of trying to Moneyball it it feels like because it’s like called or not um uh Callahan is their coach and like Levis is their quarterback and like

Ridley as their wide receiver one I just don’t know where that like ranks amongst offensive you know trios at those big three spots but what else are they gonna do you know like what else are they gonna do I I I think at seven they’re not aggressively trying to

Replace Levis and we’ve talked about quarterbacks a lot unless you want to trade up for May I think that’s fine and I think it’s fine to throw a bag when you’ve got this much money at the best wide receiver that hit the open market so like they’re probably not building a

Super team or anything like that but we’ll see if these if what they’re doing is underrated I think it could be I think it could be nothing too splashy no huge names but I think they could be doing something underrated but we’ll see they did they did bring in a wo8 corner

They needed a corner and that could be yeah and he’s underrated too when he’s heal when he’s healthy He’s just never healthy um unfortunately I think I think that’s a shot worth taking yeah you know for a team that’s desperate for good Corner play all right yeah I don’t hate

What they’ve done but it’s going to be tough in a division with all those franchise quarterbacks to to to make it out of the basement we’ll we’ll see I they’re making an effort you know they’re spending money they’re they’re trying so we’ll see and then Tyron Smith

Signed with the Jets and really the funny thing about that was I saw an headline I think it was from pro football talk so it could be wrong if it’s Florio but like he said that the Jets were surprised that Tyron Smith actually signed with them instead of it being just like a

Leverage play to drive the price up with somebody else but I think that’s a great great signing like I actually have to shout out the Jets for getting a move done while Aaron Rogers is distracted um signing Tyron Smith instead of boari that’s so funny man you’re just

Like I saw you tweet that and I it’s like yeah now that now that Rogers is like running for vice president they can actually get [ __ ] done yeah they picked up Morgan Moses as well they’ve been building out that offensive line a little bit and they

Built out and they drafted john or they signed John Simpson from Baltimore who I think is a good guard so actually they kind of did rebuild their offensive line like very quietly in free agency and what if they decided like again you kind of have to put all your eggs in the

Airon Rogers will be good basket right mhm so what if what if you stay aggressive what if they’re the T Higgins team because their other big need is like they got to get another weapon in there and it’s like all of a sudden it’s like you rebuilt that offensive line and

I kind of think you did a good job and we end up being the te team and it’s him and Wilson out there that’s pretty I can see that that’s a good thought and they wouldn’t have to give up the 10th overall pick for T so they they wouldn’t

Have to give up the 10th overall pick and then you got another and you could add another guy in there you know the defense I think it could be pretty I think that could be pretty gar good oh would come down to 40-Year-Old Aaron Rogers off Niles’s tear and Nathaniel

Hackit still as their offensive coordinator yeah we got twoam two teams banking on an old quarterback coming back from an Achilles injury don’t place that Future Super Bowl bet just yet uh but yeah I I I I mean they could I I do like the offseason that they’ve had so far

Outside of Rogers saying that you know Sandy Hook wasn’t real outside outside of and then he said in his tweet he said on this is just disgusting stuff but he said in his tweet like I never said that something didn’t happen or something like that he’s like very vague I’ve been immunized he’s

Like I never denied that the events didn’t take place it’s like yeah but you think the events were staged you that you you know that there you think that something happened there but you like you thought that people got shot and stuff but you thought they were

Staged right I don’t know I he’s a he’s a weasel that guy is he’s a weirdo man he is a great a weirdo but and he didn’t even get to be vice president unfortunately for for RFK he was snubbed by someone named Shanahan noticers loses to Shanah Shanah crime family

Rogers once again loses to Shan this is crazy um honestly like they’re right like if if you believe the offensive line is getting there and Hall’s back and you could go get T Higgins and the defense is what it was last year like that roster is starting to become so

Good where I think you could like be a real threat even with like one of the good backups in the NFL it would start to become so stacked where it’s like I wonder like what would an Andy Dalton do in there something something like that uh so it’s I think the

Pressure is really on Rogers because I I I think if if their offseason keeps going this way it could be one of the better rosters out there if they got T Higgins they would be they would have a better roster than the Browns did last year and the Browns made the playoffs

With some pretty horrific quarterback play and they have Tyrod they signed Tyrod but T Higgins move not happened yet and their wide receiver too is Jason brownley all right man so they do you know Alan lzard is their fifth highest paid player he’s their wide receiver too

No it was so funny that the news dropped there like we will be shopping Alan hard a Healy scratch on a huge contract certainly the market is the phone is ringing off the hook 19 million guaranteed on that sucker mind you sure cut him and save ne7

Million might be worth it this moves the needle yeah I I don’t know why that was they they they threw that out there I I can’t imagine that super popular but yeah I like what they’ve done on the line they have several other holes still and Rogers is a huge question mark But

Tyrod was a good backup move and I like their offensive line now to some extent I do like I can just straight up say it I like their offensive line except for the fact that Tyron Smith will maybe get injured got to be worried about the Cowboys though yeah

Definitely all in my ass all in my ass it’s a crazy Theo tweet notification I won’t lie to you I didn’t make that one up I I knew that was a free Banger uh from other accounts tweeting that so just couldn’t couldn’t resist the urge to to get the free the free engagement

Even though I don’t I don’t have Twitter blue so that it doesn’t get me anything yeah for yeah all that for it gets me the of quot tweet 30 cents of Twitter blue Revenue probably oh speaking speaking of kind of related um so the Antonio Brown account which has

Obviously been sold to someone else I saw a tweet from them complaining about like the Twitter blue Revenue he’s like app half a billion views and only 1300 bucks and I’m dying to know how much Antonio Brown got for his account yeah how much did I mean it’s it’s like every

Day every Tweet now was like here’s a new shirt here’s a new please go buy the shirt I blocked that account when I when I noticed um when I noticed its fraudulence hopefully this guy didn’t drop too much of a bag on CTN and then hoped that an Brown Twitter blue Revenue

Would uh would roll in forever and ever because yeah well now now it’s now the account is started to tweet like every hour you know like everything they can possibly think of for volume but I did the math half a billion views um and and 1300 bucks comes out to

A quarter of a penny per thousand o looking looking over for CTN uh Instagram influencer he will pivot right this why this is why we we cannot we cannot get Tik Tok banned bro it is the only platform where you get like real money for views YouTube

Right yeah but I’m saying like the only it’s the only like non like you don’t have to make like a 15minute video essay yeah yeah it’s the only one where you can get cheap bangers off and make a Bag we have Joe Biden have you considered please please please yeah seriously I I saw I read the paper um here in Foxboro and just as I feared all the calls to represent Representatives only strengthened their resolved to vote against Tik Tok because I’m I I saw all that stuff up there were

Like call your representative and I’m like don’t ask Tik tokers to call their representative dude they’re too annoying and they’re gonna get Tik Tock banned like if you I was workshopping a 50-year-old Senator and like a bunch of gen Z like Zoomers call you like please

Don’t my Tik Tok please I’d be like and vote like even more to ban it I was so worried and then literally I opened the paper because I saw a headline on it and it was like some some Senator was like I had a call and someone threat

To commit suicide if we ban Tik Tock yes and someone called me hysterically stop sobbing and I’m like I knew that you guys would mess this up for us don’t call your Senator don’t call your Senator you’re just making dud I was I was workshopping a gen Z rise up

Ticktockers rise up video but I couldn’t I guys spawn hour it would be so funny to get a compilation of like fantasy football AZ and like the baby Bron RZ guy likeing singing a [Laughter] magic oh my God I might have to put that together can [Laughter] we all right bro we

A black screen it fades fantasy football AZ is in front of his microphone with his filters on he breaks he breaks into John Lennon’s imagine what Senator I know I’ll get started on the AI voiceover I honest I honestly think there’s a decent number of people who

Would be down to do this I really do I think you get a we shouldn’t we should sing a tiktock like trending s can we get can we get an AI voice over for like Rico NOS yeah [Laughter] R this would move the needle this this would sa this move the needle Okay

But well we’ll see what we can don’t worry listeners we will save Tik Tok how did this all started cuz I was like you got to feel bad about the Cowboys and you just all in my yeah but I you really do have to be concerned about Dallas I I think yeah no

Doubt I mean I don’t know how they’re better than they are last next year how they’re better they you know how we talk about them they could have 10 pick sixes maybe like per game hold on this is their offensive their offense will be defense and that will change the league I

Guess what would it take for you know how we talk about like almost every single team thinks that they’re better after the off season like very few teams are like yeah we’re we’re just worse even on paper or like the Cowboys are probably going to end up being the like

One of the two or three teams where it’s like we’re just worse on paper we definitely got worse or is it’s like just if you’re not getting better getting worse and it’s like they kind of just lost and they weren’t there last year and you’re kind of just rolling the

Dice with wor odds again I can’t remember a time where that’s ever really worked out no no and it’s not going to be their year next year no one like I saw them announc they like resigned their special teams Ace and the quote tweets and replies were not not happy so

I I don’t think Dallas fans will be under any kind kind of Illusion that it’s um their year although I do think that Dallas fans get a bit of a bad reputation because like if my team was as good as Dallas I’d probably think they’d have a chance too so but this

Like and now that they don’t have a chance probably like the fans won’t probably be so happy like kind of like any other they they went they went they went basically a decade where like every year they it felt like quarterback like they’ve had good defense is it’s

Unbelievable how many times it’s been their year it really is but it hasn’t been like unreasonable for most of that time no some reason gotten more playoff success than they’ve had this year it’s a little different because they ran into a juggernaut but like in previous years

Um they defin theyve they’ve had they’ve had two franchise quarterbacks they’ve had Dez Bryant CD lamb Jason Whitten I know I mean the number of Superstar players they’ve had in my lifetime is is ridiculous I I I can’t stress that enough but instead of making the Cowboys fans

Cry for another like 10 minutes I think we should probably wrap it up here don’t have a whole lot more to talk about we were supposed to give our top five Edge defenders in this year’s class may there’s too much news too much news maybe too much news we’ll

We’ll we’ll do some more draft prospect stuff I’m sure at some point but you know free agency’s been going on so we can’t not talk about that but we will be back with a live stream here pretty shortly and whether or not that’s more news or another draft prospect review uh

Is to yet to be seen but we will have a live stream but until then thank you all so much for tuning in and as always from your favorite three folks ever on the stay hop podcast we will catch you on we will catch you on the flippity [Applause] Flop

37 Comments

  1. the pats are trading back for 11 and 23 and i feel like they could take nix mccarthy or penix type qb at 23

  2. Yo I’m a bears fan and I’m looking to get into podcasting and I would love to hop on and chop it up with you guys! I think the fan base is getting unfairly criticized for our love for JF. It’s more nuanced than people realize

  3. I actually don't think it's crazy the pats don't take qb they have a terrible sypprting cast any prospect taken there would probably look like bryce. I think it would make more sense for them to trade back and build there roster and wait till a jayden Daniels or kyler Murray or joe burrow breaks out next year.

  4. Theo trying so hard to both not discredit Nabers while also making it clear he thinks he isnt that good is funny

  5. You guys talk about the moble QB injuries but look at the actual injuries. the majority of Kyler and Lamar injuries are non contact so why would Jaydens size come into that comparrison there are real criticisms of Jaydens game but the injury concerns arent any worse than any QB in the Draft its such a phony reason for not liking him as a prospect

  6. While I completely agree with your assessment of the Bears fanbase Theo I would try not looking at all of us through green-and-yellow glasses. Some of us (me) wanted Caleb a calendar year ago.

  7. I love how Theo makes fun of Hackett for being the OC for the jets but put most of the blame on Wilson when he was the HC for Denver.

  8. Blaiden, I agree that maye is a better prospect than Daniels, but Mayes pocket presence is NOT a strength yet. He slides left and right when he doesn’t need to on a decent amount of plays

  9. 57:52 when did Rodgers say sandy hook was staged?? there's video proof of him sending condolences to the victims and then the tweet he sent. Reporter def lied about that.

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