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Free Agency bests & worsts: Russell Wilson, Tony Pollard & more! | This is Football
Kevin Clark is joined by Rotoworld’s Denny Carter to discuss the first 24 hours of NFL free agency, including the Cowboys’ lack of moves, the Falcons becoming serious contenders and why Russell Wilson to the Steelers is a great move.
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0:00 This Is Football
0:13 Denny Carter joins This Is Football
1:37 Free Agency Recap
3:30 Teams that helped themselves the most in free agency
4:30 Atlanta Falcons sign Kirk Cousins
11:40 Teams that helped themselves the most: Washington Commanders
15:15 Teams that disappointed in free agency
15:38 How the Dolphins losing Robert Hunt impacts Tua Tagovailoa
19:40 Cowboys are the only team to not make a move in first 24 hours of free agency
21:00 Why Russell Wilson to the Steelers is a good move
24:52 Best Free Agent moves: Christian Wilkins to the Raiders
26:52 Raiders sign Gardner Minshew
30:49 Worst free agent signings
35:10 Where does Justin Fields go?
45:05 Saquon Barkley/Tiki Barber feud

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All right Denny Carter is here he is the co-host of the roto world fantasy football podcast you asked me Denny yesterday and the only one of the persons ever asked me they say is this video or is it Audio Only um what exactly were you planning to do if there

Was no video I have to know Kevin whether I need to look pretty uh for the podcast and that means shaving that means doing my hair okay like yeah I see like you’re in a hoodie and a and a hat right and a hat and and that that was

That was what I was going with if it were just audio uh but my vanity drives me Kevin so I must uh I must look nice for the camera um I I’m good with that normally I remember Tom peliso being like I’m working out just before hand and I need

To know whether or not to like towel off and I always thought that was an interesting way to go you know like do I need to like do I do a five minute buffer or can I just wear my Adidas tracksuit right if I’m drenched and

Sweat like Rocky after like that is that fine with you yeah this was during Co so he like it was probably like like he was probably out running and is working from home and like probably was we were going to come in and talk about good M Jones

Was you’re probably going to come in and just do 30 minutes on how amazing Mac Jones was if I remember that which ended up to be absolutely correct in every way yeah 100% 100% um all right so we’re going to do uh free agency and and and

We’re at the point we’re recording this at 10: a.m on March 12th uh Tuesday second day we’re at the point where this guy signing that I didn’t know of free agents like Cleveland Ferell de oh oh that was one that was one for apparently a first rounder in 2019 this is what I

Learned this morning from my from my feed and yeah so I I actually had to that one for NBC and I’m like oh no oh yes yes I definitely know who this guy is let me look him up in the database and see so I I knew I obviously knew who

He was because for a couple reasons number one high draft pick number two follow college football and that was the era when Mike mayo and John guden were just they watched one game per year and it was the national championship game and they would be like we like this guy

We saw a couple guys flash on Clemson a couple guys on Alabama we’re all good we’re going to get back to in Gruden’s case inappropriate email we’re just going to get back to that we’ve solved everything and then we can go from there um but I also the other thing about

Frell he’s the he’s a double whammy because there’s there’s two groups of anonymous free agents one is I didn’t know he’s a free agent the other is I didn’t know what team he had switched to frell is both I have no I had no idea he

Was a he was a free agent I had no idea he played for the Niners last year had three and a half sacks Kevin three and a half sacks Marcus it had I had someone had a jog my memory that Marcus Daven for played for the Vikings last year first

Round picks doing their like prove it year and not proving it is an incredible genre it is no and and uh this this feral guy had 28 tackles three and a half sex look I can tell you a lot about him I have five tabs right now open on

On this feral guy uh he instantly becomes the Commander’s best player by the way best player of the last 20 years um all right we’re gonna go through um the uh the the free agency gives some superlatives I guess you could call it

Yeah um I I I I want to start here um now there’s a couple this team thing is really interesting to me I we’re going to do team that we think uh helped itself the most what’s interesting to me Denny is how many people I I saw this

With the Raiders yesterday I’m gonna get to them a little bit later were people are now viewing these plans as like if you have a plan it’s your every move is good if you don’t have a plan every move is bad and and so like yesterday when the Raiders signed Christian Wilkins

Everybody was like well what’s their plan quarterback and it’s like well they okay so they don’t have like they’re gonna either they’re going to have one later in the afternoon which they did or they’re going to have a short-term one and a longterm one but they’re also just

Trying to become a better team you don’t just sit there and just be like well we don’t have a quarterback so we’re just we’re gonna field uh we’re gonna tank we’re gonna do a major league and just tank and lose a historic number of games

Um so it was very weird to process I’ll put it to you because there’s a lot of degrees here um what is your team that help the most yesterday well I mean it’s hard not to say the Falcons because uh you know Kur cousins uh so I’ll just

I’ll just go with the easy one the low hanging fruit look this team as we know has the infrastructure to be really good offensively like they’ve invested a lot of draft capital in really good offensive players they just never had anything close to a viable quarterback

And I I really do like looked at the metrics I’ve looked I’ve looked at it all Kevin and I believe that Desmond Ritter is not a starting caliber so I I mean this is this is I said this yesterday on on uh on Instagram or so one one of the I was on

So many social media channels I can’t even remember uh you flooded The Zone yeah yes yes flooding The Zone the people need their content and and I I said it’s hard it’s hard to exaggerate the kind of upgrade that the Falcons get with with cousins with a healthy cousins

I know people say oh he’s done because the Achilles I don’t I don’t buy that I don’t I I push back on that a little bit uh but if he if he’s back and if he’s healthy at the start of the season this is a massive upgrade and it instantly

Like unlocks guys who have been obviously disappointing from fantasy perspective disappointing from a real perspective it unlocks all those guys including obviously Drake Clinton and Kyle Pitts I’m super excited I think the Falcons uh Contender I don’t know I mean definitely top four in the NFC NFC NFC

South favorite oh yeah sure sure definitely I mean by by a I also like that that division is so crappy I I I came out and said that yesterday and they’re like yeah that doesn’t mean anything and it’s like well it is your division it’s your immediate goal but

The division is so crappy that everyone dismisses that as a worthy like superlative everyone’s like oh okay oh oh oh you’re gonna win your division you’re gonna get a home playoff game oh big deal that’s cute buddy yeah right I mean they if they win 10 games

They’ll win the division by four so it’ll be F the clinch on September 30th right right and the Falcons have locked up a buy locked up the two seed no um I I all respect to to the Bucks who obviously played out of their mind last year no respect to the Saints

No we’re doing all respect to the bucks no respect to the Saints or the Panthers neither of whom will be winning game this year the Saints a team that has no plan no it never has a plan no plan they just they just kind of they just kind of

Walk into a season and say we’re gonna win seven games no matter what well also they the fact that they have no plan and yet they actually win probably more games than they should shows you that planning is for losers yeah right they they they

Need to tear it down they have not lost less they the last time they had a less than six win season was 2005 and it was a three- win season it was the last year of Jim hasth and they hired Shawn Pon the next year that’s right so like

Dennis Allen won nine games last year that’s actually unbelievable and they have no idea what they’re doing I don’t I don’t take pleasure in reporting this stere Carr was not bad last year I don’t know about that I mean I mean I I know I know from a real fantasy

Or from a from a real perspective maybe not but from a statistical perspective he was fine I one thing I do think is funny is that James Winston overruled the head coach in week 17 and I thought there’d be a ton of Fallout from the breakdown in leadership and um breakdown in

Everything right and then just no one has talked about it like everyone everyone was like this was funny they’ve asked jamus about it but like no one has been like is this not bad for Dennis Allen that jamus Winston had a week 17 fourth quarter Mutiny and then we just

Kind of moved on and dropped it it f it seemed like a big deal at the time but Dennis Allen was like he what can you do what can you do sometimes there are mutinies on the field sometimes it happens it happens to everyone it happened to belich many time we all

Remember that no no no one remembers that no it didn’t happen okay good um all right so I I’m going to total agree with about the Falcons they’re going to win the NFC South I don’t think people understand how good and Kirk Cousins has been branded as kind of a Twitter joke I

Don’t think there’s a bigger um discrepancy in how coaches feel versus how the internet feels on a guy than kir cousins he throws in Rhythm he’s he throws U I think he’s the best lit I saw next gen stth that he’s literally the best in Rhythm thrower in football

Really which seems incredibly fake what they mean by that is throws between two and a half and four seconds again vaguely fake seems vaguely fake but I’m going to buy it for the for my argument um and then he was I think he threw uh more 10 plus yard touchdowns to anybody

Last year at the time of his injury and so he does the throws coaches want you to make and I think that a lot of times people are like well is that enough for for $40 million is that enough for9 $90 million the first two years yes it is

Watch watch a football game watch what Desman riter couldn’t do right and by the way I think Desmond rer was an upgrade on Marcus marida last year it was just that there’s only like 18 guys in the world who can make the throws you’re supposed to make in order to

That’s generous honestly that’s that’s a generous number to execute a NFL Playbook and everybody else you end up and like look at like Zach Wilson can’t throw the ball forward past the line of scrimmage and he was the second overall pick and so like yes you have to pay a

Premium for guys who throw the ball in a way that you’re supposed to throw the ball I have a I have a a stat that I’ve been touting everywhere and I’m I’m I’m not going to stop now Kevin Tik Tok uh uh Kirk Cousins uh averaged 10 more

Catchable passes last year than Desmond Ritter uh per game per game per game Sorry 10 10 more per game that’s the key per game that’s a lot 10 more per game so we we we spread those around yeah Kyle pittz gets a couple Drake London gets a couple maybe bejan out of the

Back field vaguely sounds like a real is NFL team it sound sounds sounds like a team it sounds like a team team that needed a point guard and they got one you know and and and cousins will distribute the ball to guys who make plays we saw that in Minnesota over and

Over and over again are the Falcons a real Super Bowl team I don’t think so no no way are they gonna be fun as hell I think so my only thing on that I don’t this sound stupid Arthur Smith would have cooked with Kirk Cousins but the

Other hand he was so weird about everything over the past two years that I almost don’t I he kind ofes didn’t deserve the opportunity who Arthur Smith Arthur Smith yeah oh oh yeah yeah he was just so weird I think I I think Arthur Smith was the literal like he you know

These guys who get yelled at on Twitter and then they just change their entire personality because they don’t want to just hurt feelings hurt feelings yeah yeah and then all of a sudden like their entire worldview changes because they’re trying to own some random guy they Absolut I feel like that was Arthur

Smith the with the fantasy football Community where he was just like oh oh you want me to use Kyle Pitts what are you stupid right right why would I do that in fact I’m going to use him even less now and you’re and and it’s all

It’s going to you’re going to suffer the most not my team not my NFL team um all right I’m going to do mine uh I this is this is kind of a take because I want to do the Raiders a little bit later I don’t hate what the

Commanders are doing I know we’re joking about clevand frell but I don’t think you wait and we saw this last year with the Texans where I don’t necessarily think you wait to see what you have with your your top pick and then be like all

Right we’re gonna be an NFL team now we we’ll hit the next free agency right they go out and they seem to be doing like let’s get real NFL players a bunch of different positions so that way when we have Drake mayor or Jaden Daniels we

Can we can start to the process of having a legitimate team like Justin Fields was playing with insurance adjusters his first year um and and and I think that that that kind of hurt him that build like geography is Destiny and football and the more legitimacy you

Have at every position the better and so so going out and getting two interior uh linemen starters um getting franku lvo who like all of his stats about pass coverage are like absolutely Elite yeah like I getting Austin Eckler which is I whether or not that was like a great

Bang for your buck is separate but like having credibility in the backfield Um Zack her’s on a one-year deal um I just kind of feel like whoever is the second pick is going to be stepping into a better situation because there’s spending this money and I don’t listen

Like maybe this whole thing is going to end up really bad because Josh Harris just going to be Daniel Snider with different branding but on the other hand like I just feel like this is something that the the the old Snider regime wouldn’t do which is just kind of a a

Smart solid sensical build before we get the the the quarterback piece in it seem that seems un Snider likee for sure uh no huge splashes so far I mean yeah the Josh Harris thing like sitting in on on meetings and whatnot that was a little a little concerning as far as like a

Meddling owner goes but apparently he just wanted to observe so whatever I’ve been I’ve been uh yelled at by many commanders fans for pointing that out so uh but yeah I I I agree it’s it’s actually uncommanded like um but so far I don’t I don’t hate it yeah I just I

Like my thing on free agency is like Breer had that stat yesterday seven of the top 11 highly paid guy highest paid guys from two years ago two years ago 2022 no longer on a team wow their team and of the four who stay with the team two of

Them had to take pay cuts one being Von Miller yeah so it’s almost like spending $80 million in free agency historically been very bad unless it’s like an absolute stud and like even like when IND damak Su reaches for agency it doesn’t really work out like it it’s

It’s more about augmenting now I flipped on free agency I used to think that like I remember like the Packers had like one year they had like two guys who weren’t drafted in their building and it was Julius Peppers and Charles Woodson and like that was one way but like now

You have to augment your draft like drafting is not enough that’s what Jerry Jones is doing that’s why they they top out in divisional round every year um you have to augment it with talent but it’s more of like the guys making $6 million the year who were just plucking

Holes and answering questions than it is hey we’re gonna we’re gonna spend $90 million on this guy big swings in fre agency tend to not work I yes that that does seem to be the trend and uh the the Jaguars could learn a lesson from that

They seem to break the bank every other year in free agency and doesn’t do doesn’t do much for him I don’t I legitimately don’t know we we can we’re going to switch to to a team that didn’t help themselves the most what do you got

Uh well the team that lost the most you mean no just yeah team a team yesterday that that disappointed you in anyway I I think you know as far as a team that got dinged on the first day of the most legal tampering with we’ve ever seen uh

The tampering was so legal it seemed even more legal than normal tremendously legal the most legal it’s ever been or ever will be I think uh yeah I mean the the Dolphins lost a lot yesterday you know um they lost Christian Wilkins to the Raiders they lost uh I know this is

Kind of funny a fantasy guy talking about Andrew van gingle to the Vikings but van GLE was a was like a key part of that defense down the stretch in Miami and then of course the big one is losing Robert hunt to Carolina he signs a huge

Deal with the Panthers uh I mean the thing about losing Robert Hunt is that it might make it more difficult to give Tua the absolutely perfect environment he requires to succeed and I I wrote about this on the NBC Sports site uh two weeks ago if folks want to check it out

Uh is is that no quarterback faed less pressure last year than Tua and anytime he did face pressure he collapsed he was very very bad against pressure and that goes back before Mike McDaniel okay so so losing your best offensive lineman your best uh pass blocker I think I

Think could have significant uh uh downward effects on this offense including Tua who I guess they’re going to commit to sooner or later it’s a double ammy you’re going to give Tua a lot of money you’re going to have him in a situation that is not as

You said not perfect he’s going to be under more pressure yeah and then beyond that I don’t think people understood how open the window was for the Dolphins last year and how and it wasn’t their fault they start to lose ton they they start to lose Defenders on Defenders to

Injury um by the time Jaylen Phillips went down I was just they had legitimate pass rush depth in like late November and then everybody starts going down and and then I I looked at and they had no chance to win a playoff game none and I think that it would have been a

Completely different scenario if they were fully healthy and a lot of that’s luck but I I I just I I don’t feel like people understand that it may this may have just been a one-year blip in time where the roster was really good now Mike McDaniel is an awesome coach he’s

Maximized Tua they’re always going to call plays that go to that that that accentuate what he does well but there’s a big difference between making Tua a good quarterback and being better than like the Joe filbin years and actually competing in the AFC I don’t see how you

How you bridge that Gap nice call back on Philbin I had forgotten about that I’ve never I’ve never forgotten you never can uh yeah I I just I think that that two is very sensitive to environment I’m trying to be as nice as possible here and uh I would say every

Time Robert hunt was possibly going to miss a game last year Dolphins Twitter went berserk you know well what are we gonna do Robert hunts out well now you lost him he’s gone and and they were middling last year as a pass blocking unit I don’t know man I’m I’m scared for

Twoa did the everyone’s like the Panthers overpaid maybe they did the thing that uh like Bill Simmons and I have been banging the drum on for years was just reading teams message boards and being like who do they not want to lose or who do they who who do they want

To lose FL float out float that you’re going to sign a guy and then check the Reddit and see if they’re like yes thank God that now that’s analytics you know that that’s forward-looking front offices need to get into that if I was a college football like director of

Personnel I would just be in everybody’s group chat everybody’s college group chat to see like uh oh this guy might hit the portal and if we’re all like Miami chat if we’re all like oh no oh no and then we’re like taking out reverse mortgage F our Collective that’s that would be a

Problem right but if we’re not if we’re like if we’re like we’re not We’re Not Gonna We’re not gonna have a reverse mortgage I’m not I’m gonna keep my house this guy can go to Georgia Tech then everything’s fine I don’t know I don’t exactly know what a reverse mortgage is

But it sounds very scary it’s not good it’s not it’s not good Tom cic does commercials for that’s all you need to know um all right so I I I dolphins are on my list too um I slightly and I’m going to give them so much grace slightly disappointed the

Texans didn’t do more on the first day of freight te just because of where they they were and I felt like they could have pluged some holes Cowboys are the only team yesterday the athletic just said this to not sign a free agent or retain their own free agent really they

Just didn’t they literally did not do a thing I was going to make a j only team in the league late later today on the road to World football show I was going to make a joke that said 31 teams made transactions one didn’t it was the

Cowboy but I was I but that’s not a joke no John machada at the athletic uh the only team not to agree to a deal with one of their own free agents or from another team on the first day incredible well Jerry he’s he’s being patient Kevin I’m sorry you can’t appreciate Jerry’s

Patience work from home they’re they’re they’re working from home every other 31 teams came into the office because they don’t care about their employees wellbeing why should you bet with Caesar sports book two words Caesar’s rewards every bet brings you closer to the types of benefits only Caesars can offer hotel

Stays VIP experiences Sports and concert tickets and more it’s not just an app it’s an Empire the Cowboys just get the L from me I I’ll I’ll throw the Dolphins to Texans in the mix with the Cowboys it’s just what do something just do something do a proof of Life move right

They should consider making one move I mean you know just anybody bring in a good punter sure competition um all right let’s uh let’s get to individual signing you like the most yeah uh I mean look I feel like there might be a push back on on the

Internet about this but I I really like Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh uh because of the team friendly nature of the deal I mean you’re talking about you’re talking about Russell Wilson playing on a one-year uh contract at the very barebones league minimum $1.2 million he’s free they they they signed Russell

Wilson for free and yes for all the jokes and all the you know let’s ride you know Broncos Country let’s ride all that stuff over the past two years if you can clear that out of your mind and focus on what the Steelers had last year

And how much of an upgrade I think Russell Wilson is to that Kenny picket Mason Rudolph situation then it it makes all the sense in the world and an added bonus I wrote about this yesterday is that you know Arthur Smith is going to put Russell Wilson into the game manager

Kind of role uh the kind of role in which he succeeded very much in Seattle over many years okay and as we begged as especially as fantasy guys with fantasy and bio said please P Carol please let Russ Cook let Russ Cook and it was a disaster okay and then the Broncos tried

To let Russ Cook and it was a disaster Arthur Smith under no circumstances will let Russ Cook and I think that’s a good thing I think this this signing makes all the sense Arthur Smith taking the same posture he took with using his good players in Atlanta with letting Russell

Wilson do anything special is actually GNA be very effective very effective just like weirdly defiant at the podium when people say like hey you thought about letting Russell Wilson do something interesting so excuse me yeah excuse me did you see what happened last time no have you seen it have you seen

It and this time this going to prove of concept um I totally agree more passing touchdowns for Russell Wilson last year than the Steelers have had since rothberger retired really 26 last year yep um there are again it’s a little bit like the dolphin thing like they upgraded on

Kenny picket significantly but that’s still not enough to compete in the AFC but you still it’s better to just not have Kenny picket like and I also feel like the entire fan base was blinded by Kenny picket because he’s a local guy he showed some Moxy he was better in two

Minute than he was the rest of the game which is just a classic way to become overrated Within advant base oh he just wins he just is a winner he doesn’t throw touchdowns I think he had the lowest touchdown rate like in the history of football he’s yeah it it’s

It’s actually shocking like I was joking online during the season that every time a third string quarterback comes in they instantly are better than K Kenny picket like it’s like Easton stick’s first game he he posted numbers that would have been Kenny Pickett’s best game ever the he’s just

Very he’s just very indecisive like I used to watch him at practice and I guess I could still watch him at practice but like every time I go to practice it’s like it just felt like he wasn’t firing the ball a lot he hesitated a lot these guys and and we’ve

I’ve talked about this show before these guys just hold on to the ball forever I think because they’re just not this generation is not used to just getting slammed into the turf and so they just back there just like just like patting the ball at the goal line and it’s like

Zoomers will never understand being just driven straight into the some concrete AstroTurf and being bullied that way into throwing the ball in 1.8 seconds so Kenny pickets back there patting the ball and then going all it was it was it was tough to watch I I did not see a lot

Of evidence that Kenny pick going to turn this around I I do want to point out Russ Russ was third in completion rate overe expected last year like there are some metrics that point to him being okay being just perfectly fine as a starting quarterback completely agree like the

14th best quarterback sure which is a lot better than Kenny pick um all right my my favorite and I know this this is chalk but Christian Wilkins well and I mentioned the the big money signings the other day from how they didn’t work two years ago a lot of that was giving $80

Million to guys who worth $40 million and you see the market like I think Greg Rosenthal made the point yesterday that the reason guards uh make so much money is because they actually reach free agency because no one’s franchising them like they’re they everybody takes care of their

Tackles like in near like the day they’re extension eligible at the end of their third year um and quarterback obviously nobody except Kirk Cousins ever reaches the open market and he does it every three years um maybe Dak will next year but um I think paying significant money for somebody you know

Is going to be awesome is probably a good idea especially with the rising cap so Christian Wilkins uh the pressure numbers were great uh he had more double team pressures which means obviously pressures when double teamed than the entire defensive tackle core of the Raiders did last year I think he had 18

Last year um he’s a beast that’s scientific term he’s the Beast he’s a beast he might be the Beast um and so I think putting that on a dline with Max Crosby um letting Tyree Wilson develop I don’t again every what’s the plan at quarterback well the plan at quarterback

Is to have a defense good enough that takes the pressure off the decision of quarterback and I don’t think those two things are are at odds in any way so I I I quite love the Christian wilin signing yeah I did uh notice at the end of the

Season that the Raiders had one of the lowest pressure rates in the league and I was surprised you know because you think of Max Crosby constantly in quarterback’s faces and but yeah I mean it if if this if this defense can be a top half defense which they were at the

End of last year I mean they they they actually did kind of lock down opponents we all remember the Christmas day uh game against against Kansas City uh then then they don’t have to ask much of their quarterback who I believe is Gardner mchu

Now so you like The Gardener M I do and you know I have a bunch of comparison stats between him and Aiden oconnell and instead of boring the folks with that I’ll just say this it appears that mu’s statistical profiles suggest that he will bring more variance to the Raiders

Offense and yes that sometimes will mean some like boneheaded picks in triple coverage when he’s trying to force feed Devonte Adams his 20th Target of the game but it also means you know long touchdowns really impressive throws he had some of those last year in Indianapolis

Uh he’s much more willing to go down field than Aiden oconnell is according to uh pff’s stats from 2023 Aiden oconnell was bottom three in almost every quarterback metric last year I think he he’s a decent enough backup but he is no way in no way a starter I think

Muu brings the sort that sort of variance like I said to a team that’s going to need it like in order to compete in the AFC at all for like for a postseason spot they’re going to have to get a little crazy on offense and they’re going to have to try to score

Points against these teams that are just you know bulldozing their way through the Raiders year in and year out I think mchu can do that and mchu targeted Michael Pitman last year on 29% of Michael pitman’s routes okay the seventh highest rate in the league uh I think that he will understand the

Assignment in Vegas which is to never look away from Devonte Adams and and don’t ever don’t ever 420 targets how how many times the guy thr throw throw in a season like probably like 400 right yeah around there yeah all all to Devonte and yeah I mean every

Every other drop back he’s going to throw it to Devonte Adams and and that’s and that tends to really work out you know not being sarcastic but you know last year with with especially with Josh McDaniel it was like it you know it was hey we’re gonna we’re gonna Target

Jacobe Meyers like that he’s he’s our number one receiver no more of that no more of that the the objective is clear I think muu can can do this Minch is not great but he’s way better than ad no your uh colleague pator we joke with this like no more systems down with

Systems down with oh he’s getting the ball because the system calls for it don’t do any of that stuff give the ball to the good players yes yes yeah great pat pat is at the Forefront of saying you don’t need to outsmart yourself you can just throw Andor hand the football

To good players it’s that MH and then let uh let Christian Wilkins and Max Crosby do the work yeah right right instead of instead of all you know I mean I I guess like Shanahan is is like a prime example of of the system needing to needing to work

Although he’s he’s he’s compiled such talent that it really doesn’t matter who gets the ball they just score all the time I have a long story I I I there was a time when uh I I don’t know why I’m going to tell the story but RG3 when he

Was first a broadcaster I think it was terrific he’s calling the Florida state Miami game and he was like the Florida state was had some cowardly punt late in the game this three years ago had some cowardly Punt and RJ3 was like I love this because Florida state has a really

Good pass rusher and Germaine Johnson and I was like that is the one of the worst things I’ve ever heard like that that they you can punt the ball away for no reason like fourth and two because he’s a good pass rusher okay on the next series that pass rusher Jermaine Johnson

Goes absolutely wild and forces a three and out and I was like well there you go the system the system works RG3 on of it well look the the the whole idea that you know I’m we’re going to punt to win because we trust our defense you know

Come on man this isn’t the 90s let’s let’s stop I’m tell you something RG3 was on top of it we love RG3 um first guest on this show he and Eli Manning um all right uh quarterback Mar oh wait wor signing I’m just gonna throw this out there Tony Pard that’s what I

Have I mean I mean what like what the Titan are so directionless rudderless I mean what like there’s no you talking about the Saints the tit the Titans might have the Saints as far as as being completely without Direction like you have you have Taj Spears who folks don’t know as like

Like was one of the most explosive impressive backs in the League last year every time he got the ball it was a potential big play he’s like he’s like Jamal Charles light okay and they they spend 24 million on Tony Pard after his disasterous 2023 makes no sense I think it’s a really

Hard thing to be a team with that has to fill like 15 holes I think it’s really hard because you’re just like what do I do here how do I do this you have the free agency before the draft which is hard um I think I we see this with the

Panthers too where they spent I think like $80 million on two interior linemen like I think it would be very hard like I know this sounds uh and again I don’t like the P signing at all this sounds very like a like 1995 CBS pregame show

But like you try it buddy you try to fill 15 holes on your talentless roster and not and not make insane decisions but I I I would rather the guard thing at least with the Panthers to me makes more sense because the entire point is to keep Bryce young upright and not have

Like did you see the clip I I don’t remember the receiver see a clip of Bryce young where he like kind of rolled out of the pocket threw like a completely normal pass and then receiver who was like at the hash marks just caught it and then just like jumped out

Of bounds for an incompletion like it was it was it was not it was as close to point shaving as you could get and it wasn’t that it was just incompetence it actually was the the funniest play I saw all last year it was Mingo I think it

Was Jonathan Mingo who who who who flung it was yeah he texted it was Jonathan Mingo for for no reason Mingo flung himself out of bounds as the ball was coming to him I you it was the opposite of trying to toet tap the sideline um I also I actually I I

Actually just uh Twitter searched young to Mingo just to see and I saw a different play Ian hardit’s put it out it was against the Saints and uh Mingo just he’s he’s wide open and he puts no effort into catching the ball whatsoever the ball is just like three yards in

Front of him could have easily hit him in stride he pulls up for no reason and then just looks at the ball and drops right in front of him Mingo had some problems last year there’s no doubt that they could improve uh Bryce Young’s receiving court and guards apparently yeah I’m I’m

I’m obsessed with the Panthers I’m going to North Carina to play golf this weekend I’m gonna I’m gonna jealous get a feel I’m gonna get a feel of the Carolina Panthers and see what the fan base thinks if are they still are they still in because the stadium was rather empty last year

I uh one thing I lived in North Florida during Co during the peliso years during the pisero uh gym years and uh uh I would talk to people with the Jaguars and realize that not any there’s not anybody who cares really not anybody yeah I just like you meet people and

You’re like what’s up with the Jags and they’d be like h i mean gers are four now the the the Jags Twitter is the scariest Twitter in America I mean besides by the way besides Dolphins Twitter which is actually I have huge respect for the Jaguars uh Twitter I have huge respect

For them I’m just saying like the rank and file person in Northern Florida is not necessarily locked in which I think is a level athlete I would I would assume the same for Carolina I would assume the any team where you’re just like kind of in the wilderness for a few

Years like that happened with the magic like I would all whenever whenever the magic were bad I mean thank God they’re the fourth best team in the East now like I go back to Orlando and I see like my high school buddies and i’ be like hey Tobias Harris looks pretty good and

They’ be like what well like this is this is weather related if the weather’s nice you don’t care about you don’t care about the teams I mean that’s Miami except except the Florida Panthers who were America sweethearts down there um all right so we got we went through

Tony Pard um all right quarterback Market in general it’s it’s 10:34 Justin Fields is still on the team Chicago Bears um a little surprised Sam darnold signs with Minnesota we already mentioned the Kurt Cousins thing we already mentioned what the Raiders did um the places with that still need

Quarterbacks uh Washington the top three in the draft but then there’s an argument be made that maybe New England if the price drops drafts Marvin Harrison Jr and and takes a a Justin Fields type uh Denver who I think are in a pretty tricky situation and curious

About the plan there um anything stood out about the quarterback Market in day one I mean I don’t know where Fields goes at this point that that that’s the thing is like I thought the Raiders made a lot of sense but then the Raiders gave 15 million guaranteed to Gardner muu so

That’s over like they’re not you know they’re not going after Fields uh so I guess I guess maybe Washington makes sense as a landing spot but only if they probably you know only if they like deal their their first round pick I I I would I would hope that like maybe the Giants

Are somewhat interested in in in you know bringing in someone to to challenge Daniel Jones to like make that that offense like slightly better I think Justin Fields can do everything Daniel Jones allegedly does oh he’s he’s a better he’s a better runner for sure I

Mean he’s no no of I’m just saying like he could he can whatever you think I mean Daniel Jones is bigger I guess like whatever you’re saying like Daniel Jones does well extending plays toughness whatever ju Justin Fields can do that and then he has he’s got the plus running like you should

Want I’ve been disappointed you should want to coach Justin Fields because he does a handful of things really really well and if you can’t make that better it’s because you’re a bad coach I know that there’s limit we’ve seen limitations and obviously if he was a better quarterback they wouldn’t even be

Considering trading him but I think there’s a skill set there where I’d rather work with him than a Daniel Jones I’d rather work with him than frankly a gardener mchu I’m not going to over overrate him um I think bars Twitter is doing uh enough of that but I I also

Think that there’s there’s something there where Brian dble should want to work with that I agree I I will say that 2023 for Justin Fields was really really not good for him as a passer uh he he regressed in a lot of key areas including intermediate throws 10 to 19 yards um

You know his completion rate fell in that area his yards per attempt fell in that area so I I I don’t he didn’t show he didn’t show the sort of leap or the sort of progress that that you would have hoped that he would have hoped so

That he could land a legit starting job for multiple years in another offense um or the or the Bears keep him he didn’t show that Improvement I’m pretty sure if I know that that the NFL teams know that so I I Could See Fields I don’t know be

Having to compete for for a starting job somewhere I mean I think that’s that’s what it is 1 million per what’s gonna happen the Bears are not getting the second rounder there’s no way they’re getting like a fourth rounder and maybe maybe um so couple things I think so Sam

Darnell just got 1010 million Sam Darnell played 56 games none of them particularly good and then he went into the Shanahan uh tent yes and came out and somebody was like here’s $10 million even though we don’t really have a sample size my feeling on this is that

Justin Fields if there are no real Pathways If Shawn Payton is like I’m not I don’t want anything to do with you which is the last kind of I guess you’d say open starting job if that’s the case he should go to a Kansas City a San Francisco a Philadelphia get in

Get in the orbit yeah have your agent leak that he’s learning a ton like you know who the best example of this is uh when Mitch Tris yeah went to Buffalo and all the stories including from Buffalo people in Buffalo were like boy he has sped up his release he’s locked in Ken

Dorsy has been working with him look out at his next team and then he got he got he got uh real money from Pittsburgh uh played same exact guy terrible same exact guy there was not one difference he learned not one thing in bu he might have been worse in Pittsburgh than he

Was than he was in Chicago and but I remember that I mean the the the rehabilitation tour is real and it could do wonders for I I I’m with you I know I like this idea Kevin I I say go to Philadelphia Justin Fields go to Philadelphia for one year sit behind

Jaylen Herz maybe you you you get some playing time if Herz gets dinged up it’d be good my only thought on that is philadel Philadelphia and particular might not want to do it because that situation has the chance to get very toxic very quickly and then accidentally

People are calling for you to start on October 5th and you don’t nobody wants that nobody no if you’re doing the rehabilitation tour the point is to play as little as possible so Kan a city you got to keep that under WS the reason that uh Sam darnold got $10 million is

Because he didn’t play against the Ravens when people thought he was going to come in wait a second wait I have to push back on I I actually like darnold a lot going to Minnesota I think that he is a decent cousins replacement um do we do we remember the

Six games he started for Carolina in 2022 do we remember that uh I I do okay so is this supposed to help yes it is yes very much because over those six weeks Sam darnold led the league comfortably in completion rate overe expected he was top 10 and dropback EPA

Very very efficient very good in that little stretch run it’s why I thought he was going to get a real shot to start in San Francisco obviously that was never on the table but I I I like him in Minnesota a lot Marcus marota siging with the commanders really just putting

Them over the top I would say um success right in Carolina first of all he also started 11 games in 2021 and and I don’t want to talk was very good yeah no he was horrible 2021 yeah I remember so then you’re just looking at the second year he started in Carolina

In a six game samples size where a success rate wasn’t particularly much better it’s it’s yeah no success rate was not was not fantastic I I I I I do think that he can be sort of cousins is now I’m not saying he’s better than Nick

Mullins okay can we can we agree on that sure sure but I I think skill set wise I’d rather have I think I’d rather have Justin Field’s doing one good thing and then you you coach more into him and use the middle of the field more and all

That stuff than um than Sam Darnell but I maybe I’m I I think Kevin oconnell is not interested at all in a mobile quarterback in a dual thre agree I think he wants a guy who will drop back and do what he’s told and I think Darnell fits

That bill they all that’s all they want yeah all those Shanahan guys McVey guys they just just run the plays man no no interest I mean they like director who’s like what are you doing this words are on the script that’s why Trey Lance made no sense in San Francisco what was he

Going to do was he going to be a drop back passer no he was a mobile quarterback coming in that was never going to work These Guys these Shanahan guys no interest in dual threat quarterbacks so I’m a huge dumbass and uh I don’t really do the draft typically

I’m doing the draft more this year um for a handful of reasons but during the Tre Lance draft I heard a couple people you know how like one word gets started and draft Twitter and then just it explodes through the entire ecosystem so someone was like a couple people were

Like uh I don’t know who started it they were like well the Lance isn’t a scheme fit he’s a scheme expansion and I was like oh I love that phrase hell yeah we’re gonna take the Shanahan offense we’re going to expand it remember and then what I learned very quickly was

That the Shanahan offense doesn’t want a scheme expansion it does not they like the scheme they like the scheme in the system don’t try don’t dare it don’t don’t mess it up it’s perfect what are you doing that’s not of the scheme you don’t run you don’t run for 15 yards on

On on second and 12 don’t do that um all right we’ll get you out of here on this uh any most surprising like jaw dropping tweet uh you saw that were during this period it could be trade could be free agency um could just be a release whatever it was was there

Anything that that jumped out of you because so many of the moves like daa bakari being released is like whatever uh yeah we also had that comment and all the also the people with the Jets like well penil and David bakari to play for the Jets next year well he’s been hurt

For years and he doesn’t play very much so that would be bad didn’t he no but didn’t he refuse to play after Rogers busted his killes and he was like there’s there’s a little there’s a little bit of smoke on that yeah like he like he was like in solidarity with

Rogers I’m not going to play this season I think it was I I I understand I don’t know how much he’s trusted his body since he got he got really hurt he’s played uh in 13 games since 2020 yeah um well I mean as far as a tweet or a post

On the xplatform that that that uh that really shocked me I I think that Josh Jacobs signing was like came out of nowhere and I was like wait what like and then you know because I was like oh him and Aaron Jones in the backfield that’s weird obviously they they later

Released Aaron Jones but uh wow that that came out of nowhere and I don’t know what what what the what the deal is here they’re they’re I think they’re overpaying and and they’re probably getting a worse running back than Aaron Jones I’m not exactly sure um I’ll say

That the saquan thing was it was whatever we all expected this the Giants didn’t make him an offer and then the one thing that surprised me was Tiki saying you’re dead to me to saquan the you know who didn’t care about saquon’s Giants Legacy the New York Giants because they didn’t make him

A contract offer no this is not like him being like I’m out of here screw you I’m going to stick it to you it was more like I need a job and you guys are not offering me to continue with this job so I’m going to go down I95 for two and a

Half hours the Giants for for two years were like look man like we appreciate that you’re here you work hard but we really want nothing to do with you sequan no yeah and so he that money’s going to Daniel Jones and uh Kenny G

Yeah he took he took the hint and uh and and now we’re still paying outad we’re still giving money to Tony we’re giving Tony tons of money still giving that to him that’s good that’s good management there I just didn’t like and then Tiki barbar you’re dead to me what are you

Talking about I saw a theory that Tiki is trying to ingratiate himself back in with the Giants because everybody hated him for so long but that’s so that to me is so in an inauthentic way of doing it because I don’t think any Giants fan necess like I I know a

Lot of Giants fans and nobody is like I’m Inna burn sake On’s Jersey they’re kind of like this whole situation sus burn sake can can you imagine someone doing that after the team like has like tormented saquin for two straight years oh man people love him man and saquin

Got really mad really mad at that post by Tiki Barber right and and as he should really I feel like you can I feel like it was clearly a joke I don’t know I don’t know um all right Denny Carter listen to him MBC uh you’re blurbing all over the

Place we are we are blurbing hard I’m going to I’m going to hit the Mariota blurb Now Kevin wow commanders Commander ceiling raised commanders land their get their guy they get their guy he’s a guy please in the last them be like we’ll see if they still want a

Quarterback next month we’ll see right oh I love it yes just make them as angry as possible all right man thanks for coming on buddy thanks for having me

10 Comments

  1. So I guess there’s no concern about giving us anything to keep us watching in the first 5 minutes. I imagine you lost at least half of your viewers that clicked with that slow wind up.

  2. It's fun to make fun of people doing something that you could never do or have the ability to do.

  3. So easy to say the Falcons did the best by spending the most on a player. He's their best QB since Matt Ryan they say. That would be the case for 25 of leagues QBs today. Welcome to mediocrity.

  4. Typical ESPN picking and choosing their narrative. Russell Wilson, when he was allowed to cook through 40 touchdown passes to only 13 pics and over 4000 yards you guys are clowns. He carried Seattle on his back for years throwing over 30 touchdown passes every year so he was cooking the entire time. Idiots.

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