Did Rory McIlroy Cheat at the Players Championship? Plus there are some things nobody is talking about.
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I love drama at awesome like near major championship courses Rory mroy is he Che did he cheat really is kind of the question at hand here right out of the gate I don’t believe he cheated but I think there’s a lot going on with this drop situation here at the Players
Championship I think there’s more going on than we realize and things that I people are just not talking about that I think need a little bit of discussion and feedback audience participation as always here on the podcast make sure you subscribe to the channel and that you
Hit the Bell notification so you don’t miss anything links below for everything seven diamonds wear gear discounts below for a lot of things so be sure to check that out thanks for the support here we go Rory mroy first and foremost the dude just goes crazy at the Players
Championship tied for the lead seven under par but it’s not without controversy I don’t know how this guy even keeps his head on straight with the round that he had and moving forward we’ll see how or if it even affects him he seems to be like a
Steel trap but we’ll see you know golfers they’re fragile we’re all fragile one little thing we’re we’re all one bad shot away from quitting the game and we’re all one great shot away from picking it right back up again so who knows what happens but on the seventh hole and that’s
Rory’s back nine so it’s like his 16th hole of the day he hits it in the water we’ve all seen it and there’s a there’s there’s fans or people there saying that there’s 100% certainty from them that it didn’t cross over the red line meaning it bounced on
The other side of it which would make his drop way farther back than he took and the problem is none of the players saw that and Rory certainly didn’t see it as far as we know Al there is is a fan or two that said no it didn’t cross
But there’s only about that much width between the water and the red line so a foot or two not much so for you to be across the Fairway on the te box wherever and see it bounce on the left side of the red line versus the right
Side is tricky it’s you’re going to have to have some good vision and pick up a ball even Jordan Speed said that he was looking 30 yards farther down and so when it bounce you know you have to refocus and reshift your vision to be
Able to pick it up and so you’re going to catch it on the bounce Johnson Wagner on the Golf Channel did a recreation a re what look like this is some like murder mystery all of a sudden where he’s reenacting the crime which is it was pretty interesting and fun to watch
I got to beon honest I got to kick out of it like I don’t know how accurate this reenactment science experiment is going to be but it was entertaining none theast and it was funny and he throws three balls down one close to the bunker
One on the slope and one as far as we know on the red line or close to the red line and we cut to the camera angle which was positioned basically where the TV Camera was stationed and we could see the ball bounc all three times the second time bouncing the highest which
Was on the side slope so we’re guessing I’m guessing that the grass was a little firmer there whereas it wouldn’t collect as much water on a slant and so it’s firmer Ball’s going to bounce a little bit higher up on the a little bit higher up
It uh it bounced less longer Grass more moisture same result when it was lower closer to the water means absolutely nothing to us personally we could see it bounce from the camera on Golf Channel in all three uh throwing experiments there from Johnson so we could see it bounce every single time
How high would a ball bounce from it who knows right but entertaining nonethe least so what does Rory do what do you do in this situation well he took the drop where he took the drop and he ends up getting a double bogy on that hole
Okay look I don’t personally care if the drop is incorrect I mean his other option is kind of ring it so he’s hitting three he’ll probably make double bogey also unless he hooks another one in the water so more than likely if he rete it he’s
Making double bogey if he drops it let’s say on a different T box maybe the forward te’s which is more in line of where it crossed the turtles as this is being dubbed like turtle gate then okay again he probably makes double bogey but he hits a great shot up there and
Whatever three gets a double bogey so double bogey I don’t think that’s the issue because worst case scenario regardless of where he’s going to drop it I’m going to assume he’s going to make double bogy anyways at at worst all right so he makes double there here’s where I think the issue really
Was one is what we got to always talk about why is J Jordan Speed said he didn’t really see anything yet he’s talking the most for a guy who didn’t see anything he sure has a lot to say so that says something there now Victor hin is involved a lot for some strange
Reason Victor seems to find himself in these situations where there’s a rules issue at the Players Championship and he’s involved it’s happened in the past and I don’t know why it comes out so he must be getting frustrated that it’s him and he’s always have has to deal with
Making sure that the field is covered not Rory’s do he like it’s the you’re trying to protect the field is what you’re doing as a player you you don’t necessarily care where Rory drops it for you but for everybody you want to so okay I get that but here’s where I think
The real issue is Rory started on the 10th hole he goes birdie birdie birdie par birdie par birdie birdie so the dude’s six under after eight holes he’s going nuts and Jordan and Victor are not even close they’re getting boat raced here by Rory is just going to task and
Then Rory hits it in the water on his ninth hole the 18th the famous 18th hole hits in the water now it’s he hits it left so he takes a drop there that is probably on that particular hole a favorable drop he should have gone way farther back there but didn’t for
Whatever right so they’re probably not too happy with what happened they’re on but they’re like what whatever you know it’s close enough it let’s not make a mountain out of a mole heill here he he probably got a favorable favorable can I say it drop there and so that’s probably
In my opinion that’s probably bothering them a little because he only makes bogey there they probably thought he deserved a double on the his ninth or the 18th nonetheless then goes par birdie par birdie par birdie so they’re like oh my gosh this guy is still going crazy even after the
Water ball on the 18th old and he keeps just boat racing us then he hits it in the water on seven and they’re like all right we’re not letting him get away with this a second time let’s get involved because this is ridiculous the guy’s on fire there’s no stopping him we
Get a second opportunity let’s get involved that’s where I think this whole incident you know kind of erupted and blew up was the fact that there was something going on previously and there are reports that there was some weird Vibes after the 18th the playing of the 18th hole and
The drop he took there so now here it comes again and we took the real crime is the 8 minutes at least they took trying trying to deal with this situation on the seventh hole not the drop or where like there’s more crime there in the time versus the potential
One shot here or there I think what happened was he got a favorable drop on the 18th hole and a fair drop on the seventh hole and in total I think the players felt like hey he owes us at least least a shot maybe maybe not but
In my opinion all the time Jordan and Victor took talking about it that’s the shot he that they gave him the shot back with their time that’s how I look at it like at the end of the day it’s probably not a shot it’s a quarter of a shot in
Favor of Rory maroy this stuff happens all the time and and it happens when you’re marking your ball on the green you move it a little bit you’re a little let’s say loose in terms of where you put it is it a shot no it’s maybe a
116th of a shot potentially probably not but if you add all that up over the course of a round or a tournament the player himself is probably giving himself a quarter to a half shot advantage in a tournament over the course of four or five tournaments
One shot but everybody’s going to do it on some level in their own favor and so over the course of time it equals itself out it just see happened to Rory one of the most popular players on the planet happened to him at one of the most popular tournaments on the
Planet during a round where he’s going crazy if he was four over nobody walks over there and does anything about it dude just we don’t care where you drop it throw it on the green we don’t care like no one would care it’s only because he’s going nuts on the golf course and
Could literally run away with this thing dude could have shot 10 under par in round one so that’s where I think the big issue lies is the fact that they got involved spe and havin because Rory was going nuts on the golf course what are your thoughts you let me
Know comment below is that is it because of the previous hole is it because of something else or they just feel like someone’s got to put someone’s got to stop the guy otherwise no one has a chance this week who knows that’s what I think it kind of is all of it put
Together they felt like hey you owe us a shot here go back to the turtles where I’m thinking dude if you’re four five over two over no one’s even going to Blink an eye let me know thanks for listening it’s always something fun happening see you guys later oh Anthony
Kim by the way shot four over and then even par so he missed the cut there and maau so no big update there we’ll catch you later
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The real news is that the PGA will never set up a course that is challenging any more.
Easy fix. Every water hazard has a drop area wherever tournament officials deem it to be. In the case of very long lakes like on #18, you may have 2 drop areas and you drop it in nearest circle to where you went in.
Ball can bounces on water too
Tiger did the same thing!! Get over it
You believe ball bounced under the red line and we 've seen it 1 meter into the air. You are making clickbait here and thats an issue….also Rory DIDN'T CLAIM he said he THINKS. Come on
Once again Hovland is right in the middle of a drop controversy at Sawgrass. Maybe he's giving Rory the business a little, after that BS drop he was awarded at LACC last year. IDK? I'm always rooting for Victor. Love watching him play. But he's always sticking his nose in somewhere.
Okay mr armchair rules official. He asked his playing partners and the officials, they all agreed ffs 🤦♂️
You have carried water for this guy forever. Face he is the biggest golfing A Hole on the planet and accuses others of cheating. You think it was no big deal and the other guys were being petty. They witnessed cheating end of story. Love your podcast.
Rory was way wrong on the 18th. Cheated. Clean. If I’d been Spieth and Hovland I’d be furious
Rory is not a cheater he just simply uses the rules of golf to his advantage he is trying to win and hes always within the ruls of golf he does exactly what i would do.
Surely a rules official gave the ok to drop it there???
Other sports are played in a confined area where referees have full view of the action & the onus is on the referee for calling out cheating. In golf, the onus is on the player. Thus: the ambiguity.
If anything he dropped further back than where it crossed. If you look at the bunker across the lake it crossed where that little circle is in the middle of the bunker. He dropped back by the start of the bunker
What a total nothingburger of a story. The ball definitely crossed somewhere in that vicinity. All you can do is go with the best guess the player can make at the actual spot, which is what they did. That's how golf works, end of story.
The latest obvious cheat story was last week when Clark improved his lie by pressing down on the rough right behind the ball. No big talk about that because he's still not as big a name as Rory, but that was a clear violation that wasn't called. You can rest the club behind the ball using gravity. It was obvious that he used way more force than gravity in that situation.
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What was the significance of the red line? Was it that it was traveling across the water and if it did not land past the red line, he would’ve had to drop back across the water?
HERE HE GOES, IS THIS COS HES AGAINST LIV AND MR SHORTGAME IS OBSESSED WITH THE SHOWER OF SHITE.
Okay everyone is getting way to caught up everyone needs to take a look at the video again
Not the first time Rory has used the “rules” to his advantage shall we say.
Genuinely can’t stand the man. Arrogance is off the charts.
If everyone in the group agrees where it crossed. Nothing else matters.
He didn't cheat. Get over it
Rory does take an illegal drop you can see in the clip where the ball goes into the water there is a camera stand in the background Rory takes his drop 30yards ahead of that
Funny with all the cameras that nobody knows where the damn balls are going into the water. I don't care if he is number one in the world, you have to drop where the ball last crossed. And you don't make up for a favorable drop in the first place. The playing partners have nobody to blame but themselves if they agree to the drop on 18.
It seems to get highlighted, for the same reason as players like tiger, or Dustin Johnson seem to "always" be in the center of controversy. They are usually near the top of the leaderboard, the camera is always on them and fans always want to know everything that they are doing.
The fans where on the right side of the fairway that made that claim and from that position there was no way to see if it crossed or not that’s why they dismissed the fans claim
if footage showed it.. it's fine.. just like a bad score card.. y are they keeping scored anymore?..
Well, it takes 12 minutes for you to insinuate that Rory. Victor and Jordan are cheats in different ways.Your comments are as always, ill- informed, ineloquent and totally self-serving.
I know the YouTube algorithm favors certain things, but I wish MrShortgame would know he's better than this by calling stuff like this "cheating?" just for a clickbait title. This is exactly how situations like this are supposed to be figured out with other players in your group. There's really nothing to see here. I think fabricated drama is just bad for the game as a whole, especially for those that don't know better.
Personally Rory is not my cup of tea ,too much politics . He wouldn’t deliberately cheat .
He would be served better by learning how to use his wedges . So bad for 2nd in the world 🤷♂️
I like your channel, but do you really think Rory was trying to cheat? Does anyone think he would intentionally cheat? This whole thing is ridiculous.
Let’s not try to justify what how Rory cheated. You’re comparing apples to oranges with the ball marking to the two very favorable drops. And it’s not like this is the first time. Did we forget the US Open bunker drop? If it was for who he is, we all know he wouldn’t have gotten away with it, ask Patrick Reed!
excellent analyze. I agree, his playing parteners thought “enough’s enough”.
Rory is a farce little prick who is worse than Patrick reed but still gets all the benefit of the doubt. Screw him screw the pga it’s all horse shit
This is why the PGA is dying. This right here. Having players be this accusatory when NO ONE saw what happened is so stupid.
Is this the same hole Tiger Woods had the same controversial drop?
It's already 2024, volleyball, tennis & soccer around the world already use cameras for review. Where is all the money PGA? Take some out of your deep pocket and spend on cameras on tower over them holes, every freaken hole. SMH
Get a life this is what LIV pays you to do?
There was no definitive proof/footage so entirely down to the playing partners to sort out… which is what happened. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill!
I think Jordan was just trying to help Rory out and pass what he was hearing. I mean my man was just DQ'd himself so I he just wanted to make sure Rory had all info available.
i don't believe Viktor and Jordan would be thinking that at all. when u get down to the nth degree with the rules of golf they can fall apart. Rory hit it in the water. Rory has his opinion as does Viktor and Jordan. isn't the decision then left to the on-course officials and their decision is final.
The stars ALWAYS get favorable breaks. Remember, this is just entertainment, not something really important. If I recall Palmer and Ken Venture were at the 1961(?) Masters when Palmer’s ball plugged on a par 3. Palmer said he should get a free drop, Venture said, play it as it lies. The final arbiter was Robert Tyre Jones. Jones heard both arguments and ruled in Palmer’s favor. So who gets the breaks?
Forgive my ignorance, but how is Rory cheating? Dont the judges decide where he would need to drop his ball?
How could he have chested when the other players were there to help advise as were the rule officials. Everyone agreed where he needed to drop. In addition you could see the ball bounce from the camera on the other side of the fairway.
when your 2 playing partners question it say no more then for rory to say lets split the diff? cant help but think of pat reed
Rory and Tiger are butt buddies
What would you think about having a marked drop zone ,like they do on most par 3s on tour, for every penalty area.
The little white circle.
Completely clear where to drop if the ball goes in.
No referee needed, no 2 club lengths etc. would be way faster too, especially for amateurs.
And on a hole where the water is completely along side the entire fairway, you could have 2-3 drop zones and go to the nearest one where your ball went into the penalty area. Or re hit.
You can see the back bounce on camera….
Rorys big mistake was the comment he made pre tournament regarding the future of golf. Didn't Match with PGA T narrative so he gets extra special attention this week from the pro Tour media. Nobody had a clear view of where the ball actually landed and then we get an idiot slamming golf balls into the ground hoping to prove a point. The lunacy that pervades the tour is beyond belief.
It took 20 mins, All was involved , let it go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a joke of a video. The ball clearly bounced as Rory saw. Rory did exactly what he was entitled to do and what any other golfer on the planet would do. Jordan and Victor were just hurt that they were playing so shit they had to make a fuss. Jordan is always crying when the game isn’t going his way.