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S3 Ep. 7 – Abe holds on, AK shows life & Scottie learned how to putt : LIV GOLF Hong Kong Podcast



Abraham Ancer is finally a winner on LIV Golf. After struggling in the final round he held off Cameron Smith & Paul Casey in a playoff at LIV Hong Kong. Anthony Kim finally showed life by shooting a 5-under 65 in the final round. Scottie Scheffler finally got his putter in check and won by 5 vs. the best PGA Tour field this year. He’s now a 6-1 favorite to win The Masters. We discuss which LIV golfer can steal that victory from him. After four events we finally can figure out who is the anchor on each LIV team. Plus 22 LIV golfers will make the trip to Macau for this week’s International Series event.

Welcome to 54 live I am your host digies and I am joined by my buddy Jake co-host what’s up Jake life is pretty awesome we had an acely decent day been doing lots of yard work so your boy is Dusty dirty but also love in the Life man nothing

Makes that sleep taste better than when you get that disgusting labor hours in I’m telling your hands in the dirt right your hands in the dirt it was 60 60 degrees out there uh today in New York uh the second time this year and uh it’s nice I’ve been going out there teaching

My three-year-old how to play baseball so we uh I started he’s throwing a ball at a tree that is freaking special dude yeah cuz like when I’m trying to have a catch with him he gets distracted but when I say oh throw the ball at the tree

Try to knock the B off the tree he gets into it and you know he’s practicing throwing so now and I just found out today he might actually be a lefty so that’s good yes yes yes give need some left-hand love up in here let’s go yeah

Nice left-handed pitcher I’m all for it but anyway great event live Hong Kong we had a three-way playoff Abe Ana Paul Casey Cameron Smith and Abe Ana he had a chance to run away with it he faulted a little bit on Sunday but got into the

Playoff and he got the job done yeah I uh no joke going into that playoff I had zero faith that a aner was going to win that playoff I mean he he looked he looked weak all Sunday two over on Sunday where Casey was six under Smith

Was four under so they were hot answer wasn’t exactly and also it’s cam Smith going into a playoff you feel more confident about him even though he’s not traditionally good in playoffs at least in terms of winning them it’s still cam Smith now we forget something about a

Aner though uh AB aner it’s kind of funny when you look at his career I mean obviously this is his third win since joining Liv golf I mean he won the Pan-American games and he won the Saudi Invitational this last year inside of Liv golf has been very quiet it’s his

First live golf win his first live golf win official yeah what’s funny about a aner though when you really think about it think back to when he joined Liv golf his overall profile his overall name value his overall Prestige and everything was pretty much equivalent with Walkin Neeman yeah and yet we never

Talk about him in the same realm no he’s like three or four years older than waen but he really is when he came to live golf they were like 19 and 22 in the world golf rankings they were both on the uh 2019 president Cup team they were

You know both highly touted laat Latino Americans I mean or Latin or not even they’re not Americans but you know what I’m saying they’re they’re they’re Latinos you know from the Latin American World um you know that’s where they were both from they were both from that same

Kind of Realm and you know obviously walking got the captain ship uh Abraham didn’t and Wen showed up a lot better in his initial live golf window yeah they made the right choice giving Waco the captain ship maybe maybe Ana didn’t want it you know you don’t know what went on

Behind the scenes well yeah and you’re right and uh and obviously I think they probably got you would think they would get similar overall packages as far as you know this that or the other but it’s been kind of funny how this has worked out where Walkins kind of turned into a

More of a household named through Liv I think Abraham an was probably a bigger name when they signed I think so too I think he a little bit T talking infantes smile yeah and I think because he wasn’t given a captain ship it kind of lowered his stock in our

Eyes obviously and then you know AB really he struggled bad last season I mean he was in relegation zone for quite a bit of time yeah or at least flirting with it and so for him to get this win obviously very positive because it’s a new winner on live golf if you guys

Don’t know they were talking about this on the actual broadcast on Sunday that there’s only been 13 before aan so there been 14 total different players to win and live golf which makes sense there’s a lot of big chickens out there winning multiple events and more importantly there’s not that many tournaments so

There’s so few opportunities for guys to win yeah there’s been what 30 something tournaments now correct yeah so you know for avaner to pull it out get the playoff win very excited for him hope this is a sign of things to come because because he was somebody who coming in to

Live golf was highly touted really hasn’t shown up overall but finally did show up and that’s pretty cool to see yeah what about The Crushers man like honestly like they just can’t you know no pun intend they’re crushing you know they are they are the perfect live golf

Team they really are and I’ve said it before I’ve said it again they’re my they my preseason number one they’ve they’ve maintained that and if you look at it they are the first the first team to have all four active members of Liv golf on their on their roster having either

Won or lost in a playoff yeah lari lost in a playoff yeah but honestly like I don’t think there’s any other team that is fitted for a final round finish where all four now that all four guys count to the score on the final round like The Crushers are

The best because like you have guys that like people like leiri and Paul Casey they’re not World beaters but they’re so consistent like they’re not going to hurt you score you know like they might not go out there and far Casey did this week um you know but they’re not going

To hurt you whereas some of these other teams they have anchors on that team that come Sunday they’re just going to completely destroy your chances of winning yeah I mean you look at the iron heads you know they’re looking at their roster and they’re like and you know

Kevin Ma’s actually playing decent golf he finished he finished tied for tied for six this week but he can’t pick up he can’t pick Danny Lee janito Kazuma off and Scot Von sometimes is playing even worse too I know surprising that that Legion 13 came in 13th Place last

Place you know with something like r i mean I know they were GNA have some rough times here or there I you know somehow Cameron uh cam sorry Kieran Vincent just completely fell apart on Sunday and it happens this course was made more for tight play and that’s why

We saw teams like the cleaks like um Majestic GC actually having a chance at a Podium finish they didn’t end up finishing on that Podium but they but got fourth and third and fifth respectively uh missing out on the podium by one shot Majestics cleaks finishing at 29 under uh this was a

Course where honestly it was made for them to have more of a chance because it didn’t require distance yeah and you saw that poter had some 5 under rounds Stenson was in the conversation uh kimer actually had his best live golf round to date um and we saw that there were

Several guys who we’ve been needing to see something out of show up slightly not enough but slightly Anthony Kim Anthony Kim is one of those guys I’m so honestly like I I was writing him off I was writing Anthony Kim off I thought Sunday going

In suay I thought he was going to be a joke and he shot five under just completely amazing and the the the fact that it came out that he hasn’t even been fitted for equipment yet right that him him and his caddies they don’t even know his stocky orages or his distances

Like he’s out there playing you know half blind and he goes out and shoots a five on to 65 amazing I I I I saw enough from him in that five under round to give Credence to the experiment to stay on in there yeah definitely it’s kind of like where Phil Michelson played

Well in jeda where you’re just like okay he’s at least relevant to stay in to stay here he’s earned his keep yeah at least for for now I need to see more than just one round under par because obviously C1 k that 63 coming

Off of an 85 that one that one it’ll be interesting to see the next event in Miami Dural because it’s a course he’s played before he’s familiar with it and it’s a rough course well and the biggest thing for me is he’s he’s playing this week in Macau we’ll get to that later

But for me I I got to see him make the cut he has to make the cut that’s that’s that’s success for him this week at the international series event the international series event in mcow he has to make the cut for him to have an

Exp like for it to be a successful week for his camp he has to make the cut yeah um it’s a 72 whole event you’re playing up against 100 plus guy you know like how many do gets the invite for internation it’s like a full 100 plus

Guys right they usually have it those they us guys yeah the Asian tour keeps a pretty thick roster I mean they really don’t turn people away I mean you know if you pay the fee you can show up probably I mean I’m kidding but it’s not

It’s it’s kind of like that but not quite certain National events will will be pretty pretty thick like when they have the Indian event like there’s like 40 dudes from India you never heard of and so they there’s they have some pretty thick Fields there I mean it’ll

Be a like a traditional PGA event where he just 70 guys top 1 ties usually get the the go-ahead but we’ll get back to that in a second um but yeah you know several guys were looking really sharp out there uh like I said Martin kimer finally showed some life he got some

Points I think that was his first time getting points in a live golf event in his entire career and I’m I’m half joking half being serious it’s it’s it’s awesome and pathetic at the same time and you’re just I’ll be less irritated with it if I see more of him doing that

You know he’s been he’s been one of the guys like especially being a captain he hasn’t showed us anything so it’s nice to see I think there was one I think towards the end of last year he had one good start as well yeah one good start

You know didn’t didn’t finish yeah but you know it’s is what it I think about it like you know other than you know the bottom Five Guys that shot overp par everybody was even a which would you know like Kieran Vincent didn’t show up Phil Mickelson Swafford uh KRA and you

Know Anthony Kim but you know Anthony Kim he saved himself because he was eight under going into that last round he finished three over you eight uh eight over he finished three over so and again the five under I mean it was it was a very different course on Sunday it

Was wet um so I don’t know if they were playing lift clean in place I wasn’t I didn’t catch whether they were or were not I would assume they were it was raining um you know enough where they actually had umbrellas out for players so I would assume LIF clean in place I

Mean I didn’t catch whether it was or wasn’t but uh so that makes a different kind of conversation you know when you start putting the ball in your hand we’ve talked before it makes a huge difference in your overall score capabilities when you’re a top tier

Player um and so we’ll have to see what happens in this weekend Macau again we saw enough from him to at least validate the experiment going on and again uh do I have much faith not really but I have more faith in this moment than I did

Last week yeah me too yeah like I said I was I was thinking that it was going to be a joke I was thinking it’s going to be a publicity stunt and you know going you know it was and yeah it is you know but honestly he really showed that you

Know Talent is Talent man you don’t lose Talent so let’s go through the rosters right now and talk about like which players are are the out andout fourth man I think we’ve seen enough golf this season to really be able to say yeah before we do I just want to give props

To nean and Ortiz like again you know two fourth place finishes man these guys are freaking studs nean like nean really has a chance to win The Masters I think he’s playing uh the exact right kind of golf at this moment yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Cam Smith can can keep his

Driver steady or if they can’t if it stays bad weather because we we saw Sunday he wasn’t in the conversation he was he was around but he wasn’t actually involved and then all of a sudden it’s a bad weather Sunday guess what he has a chance so if if if Augusta National has

Weather like last year I think he has a really good chance this season um but yes yeah going through that Aces Aces out it’s you want to say Pat Perez but it’s actually hv3 right now I know but you know throughout the year it’s going

To be Pepz you know we know it’s gonna be pz by the end of the year but it’s it’s kind of weird because Varner’s really not shown me enough yet well you said coming into the year you his off the field issues was going to cause some

Bad play and you would dead on it’s it’s it’s there it’s obvious both him and Perez are having that kind of situation and and we’ll get we’ll see it fixed up by the end of it all but that’s kind of where it’s is for the right there per

Perez is really the the number four Varner’s not much better at this moment yeah all right let’s move to another team CS cleaks it’s samua right it’s samua but honestly it’s kimer because you actually expect things out K he’s the captain he’s been here longer Caye is still adjusting he’s not getting any

FaceTime or any any opportunities to be seen so you would list him as the fourth man but really it’s kimer yeah Crushers honestly I don’t like who does matter it doesn’t matter it doesn’t matter like they get a pass they get a pass the Fireballs I would say right now it’s

Chakara yeah chakara is somebody whom it used to be pugge but now he’s he’s a balla yeah and chakara still shows up and has moments I mean he was he was actually in the final group I think uh was it was it Saturday it was Saturday

He was in the final group and he you know he just shot like over like he didn’t shoot over par he ended up shooting like three under but then fell you know found himself not in the you know in that mix anymore by Sunday so

That’s kind of the the issue is that he had his chance had his chance had his chance fell apart High Flyers everyone everyone no it’s mikkelson uh mikkelson but you know it’s sad no you can’t you can’t even say melson you can’t even say melson because MS had a top five finish

This year already yeah but uh you know it trinal is the most consistent player he is the number one he is their number one out and out their number one I haven’t seen Dick from ogal tree that makes me excited yet and he was a world

He was a world bur year he was looking hot he was looking like he was GNA actually he won the money list at the Asian tour and he was killing it last year to get on live now he gets on live he has the chance to make all this money

And he’s just like we’ll see what happens it’s it’s a long season there are opportunities but the fact that I haven’t seen him really show up at International series long season but we’re like a quarter of the we’re a third of the way done you’re right we’ve

Already had four events so it’s like how many events are that they sh 14 yeah 14 so we’re like I don’t know 30% done yeah so it’s like man you got to start yeah uh but yeah so really it’s it’s ogal tree right now steel

Still is yeah n had one good event they don’t they need somebody like Phil like I like I said said I think Phil still wants to take a shot at the US Open and um you know I just think I don’t know man I I I feel like they need like a

Stud over there they need like a guy you know they need like a ROM or a cam Smith or a DJ you know like if you don’t have one of those guys on your team it’s very hard to you know have any consistent success on live like you need a stud

Yeah you need somebody who you consistently walking into an event expect this dude to to try to win he could win he could win every week you know like you look at High flyes there they have nobody that you could say all that like they might they might you know

Grab winds here and there but like it’s it’ be one in a million you know like we look at your best player your best player on your team right now is tringali has tringali ever won a professional event no no he is not yeah and that’s not a bad thing he’s a great

Player but he’s not a winner and you have Brandon steel Brendon steel he won like fall series events you know like yeah I feel like the last time he won might have been in uh Napa which was not probably won but since then but that

That was a while ago is let’s put it this way he’s a journeyman he had his chance he had his chance Tucson last year and he just he just fell apart so it was a fiveman playoff you know he got unlucky I was hoping he was going to win

Because I really didn’t want the high flyer sorry the iron heads to win but anyway that’s a different story iron heads iron heads it’s it’s it’s kind of a tossup between janichi OK Kazuma and Danny Lee and it’s crazy considering Danny Lee won last year yes that was a

Fluke of a fluke of a fluke I know that was compared to the rest of how he’s played uh you’ll have moments here or there but you know everybody has moments yeah Legion 13 Vincent Vincent’s pretty obvious um you know he’s somebody who we’re going to be seeing battling for

Relegation at the end of the season I think based on how we’ve seen his performance so far he’s got plenty of ball speed plenty of game opportunities I just haven’t seen a course that really works for him yet Majestics Majestics everybody no it’s Westwood Westwood blatantly blatantly Westwood at the

Season men so far uh poter and Stenson are actually not in are actually in the lock zone right now they’re getting points horsefield horsefield has some rounds uh Westwood is just looking like a 52y old yeah he’s he’s past his Prim way past his Prim he should be on the he

Should be playing on the champions tour yeah and he’d be winning on the champions tour or at least competing contending yeah contending range goats I would say it’s probably between bub and Peters right uh no it’s just it’s just straight up Peters um yeah because Peters just looks unmotivated just we

Talked about him too the first episode of the year like what is it going to take and I said jok and Le said Rory coming over because like that was his best golf at the Ridder cup that year but like this guy’s lost man like you

Know and and I don’t know who can find him I mean I was hoping that honestly he’d get transferred over to the cleaks because he’d be a mediocre player on a bad team and then be able to really kind of bump things up but thankfully [ __ ] came over to the league [ __ ] looking

Like the player that he’s supposed to be all right uh Peters came in and was supposed to be that be that kind of looking player he’s he’s [ __ ] is looking like what Peters is supposed to be yeah that’s all enough said enough said it’ll be interesting to see with

Relegation this year because like relegation and and then now it’s what the third year of live so it’s like the mo the the contracts that most of the guys signed in the first year with threeyear contracts so there’ll be a lot more guys that like won’t be asked to

Come back and you know there’s a lot young guys on the Asian tour and who knows what’s going to happen between live and the PGA Tour you know like if some sort of an agreement gets made there’ll be a lot of guys chomping at the bit you know I know people are

Saying like oh no one wants to go play and live but like people want to go play and live like they want to go play and live exactly like the PGA Tour fans are saying nobody wants to play on Liv and like same way with like the Liv fans say

Oh none of the guys on if there was an agreement none of the guys on Liv are going to go play on the PGA tour that’s a lie there’s C certain events that guys will go play like John he would have played the waste management in Rivier or

Or the Farmers Open you know he’s a West Coast guy like you know these guys want like DJ he would go play Riviera he lived in La forever you know like these guys they’re they’re going to want to play certain events they’re not going to play all events they’re not goingon to

Hold a card but you know there’s plenty think about the guys outside the top you know 70 this year in the PGA Tour well and it’s going to get really I I don’t want a merger to happen just because it’s made us a whole lot more aware of

Like the things that happen in the golf world yeah I don’t think there going to be a merger like it was supposed to be last year June 6th there’s going to be like some sort of like an agreement with like a floating like all right you you

Know live guys can play three times on the PGA tour and then like you know certain events on the PGA tour if if you win it you can get a spot on a l you know like something something’s going to be worked out what I hope to see what I

Hope to see at this point Jay monan was talking about it today he said this Jan’s an idiot though but saying there’s still there he’s still talking with piff and yir no no this is what the talk looks like yir has his dick on the table and J Monahan is just like

Uh yeah I I know but the thing is like they they just got three like they just got3 billion doll so they’re not worried about the money now like they need to make it one season that’s one season no I know but I’m saying I I think something you know like

Nobody wants the nonsense of like the banter back and forth anymore like there’s going to be a ceasefire or something done what what I hope to see happen is I hope to see I love what the live golf model looks like I really do and that’s not GNA go away like as much

As people say like oh they’re gonna get rid of live because it’s not making money like that’s not going to go away like what I hope to see happen though is I hope to see a more European style of what golf is and not with golf but with

Like sports so I want relegation relegation of teams of teams and I think that would be so dope as hell I think it’s hard to do it with teams it’s not hard to do it all you have to do is create a secondary League a third League

It just happens it funnel down what if the international series was actually a series of Team events on the Asian tour that were made up of teams I know a lot of I’ve never been a big fan of the team I know a lot of people are all for the

Teams like I think if the one thing that’s going to go away it’s probably going to be the teams no it the team coolest part of it all man you really think that yes dude because it gets it gets you fired up more and more because there’s there’s multiple things

Happening okay and and the best part about the teams aspect is that those events when some dude is running away with it running the fudge away from it think back to Adelaide we haven’t had that this year think back to Adelaide last year gu had a 10 shot lead going

Into round three DJ was the closest at Vegas right yeah this year right but but think back to last year’s and while I was talking [ __ ] saying like oh this is not fun you know like Co is running away with it yes but there was still the team

Aspect of it so it keeps there it it just keeps a competition relevant even if there is no competition Sunday going into Sunday here here at at Hong Kong answerer had a five shot lead yeah that’s pretty much in most professional golf settings that’s that’s not a

Guarantee but even if there wasn’t a team he he did his job to [ __ ] the bed and bring other guys in it you know he did he did but you get what I’m saying is that if he had actually gone out there and just shot even par there was

No competition yeah thankful thankfully he pooped the bed to make it more interesting yeah but but you get what I’m saying is that the team aspect makes it more competitive it does and I don’t hate it you know like At first I didn’t like it

It’s it’s grown on me but you know like if you took it away I wouldn’t be like Oh I’m not watching live anymore you know it’s the watch I still enjoy the individual aspect better than the team aspect understand understood and it’s the more relevant one because it’s like

What’s Brooks doing the second oh exactly what’s MCD doing the second what you know and anyway so other teams obviously Ripper Ripper GC it’s it’s it’s odd because it’s leechman right now because Jones actually had a pretty good week and Jones has actually played some pretty good golf so far maybe it’s hores

For courses but Jones has showed up so far this season in a better way leash this one’s going to be a tough one because going into the season you would think it would be Graham it’s McDow not mcdu yeah M MCD mcdo mcdull is it no

It’s McDow MD are you sure gra MCD say it farity says mcdull yeah but farity is also from Ireland well farity can say whatever the hell he wants yeah he has that that accent so anyway I would say it’s McDow kraak it’s mcdal KRA um I would say I would leaning more toward

Kokra based off of the way the season The Season’s rolled out so far but they’ve both had moments so it’s kind of it’s it’s a very good tossup and when we when we have a good kind of tossup like this it’s actually a good thing because

There are some teams where it’s like a bad tossup where it’s like hey these both these guys suck yeah those Stingers like nobody it’s like they’re like The Crushers yeah it’s it’s it’s tough because it’s really between grace and schwarzel but schwarz’s played really good this year so far yeah and they’re

Again they’re a good team they’re my number two in my power rankings uh slightly above T slight I feel like they’re like a Crushers light like they’re a type of team that could like always keep it going you know yeah they they are Crushers light in a

Lot of ways they’re a team that is always competitive they might not always Podium but they have the opportunity to not be weighed down by oh we have six guys who shot 20 over today yeah and then the last team toque which I would say it’s between Meo and Pereira Meo did

Show up in Vegas but I feel like since like he had the one good event and he had one good in national series events but other than that he hasn’t really you know he was competitive last season he has not been competitive this season so

Far he’s a good guy like he’s a talent like we saw he almost won the PGA you know like if he didn’t hit the ball in the water which Speaking of if anybody watched full swing that was a douchy douchy speech oh my God Justin Thomas

Has given I never knew they did a PGA Champions dinner I always thought it was just the Masters but I mean every I’m sure I’m sure everything is a champion it’s not as prestig I’m sure at the B at the Bay Hill they they take you in the

Bathroom and give you a sandwich whatever Justin anybody who hasn’t seen it watch it it’s on Netflix Justin Thomas was giv a speech at the PGA and he said I just want to thank M Pereira because it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t be here right now which you’d be there

Because you won a PGA Championship already I guess he wouldn’t be hosting that DIN and that’s such a dickish thing to say like it was pretty douche baggy it was pretty douchebag like you know like that’s like he’s pretty much saying like uh I uh he lost the tournament I

Didn’t win it you know like why even bring that up yeah it would be like it would be like whoever whoever won because of veld’s incident at the the Open Championship thank you it’d be like him saying that speech I want to toast to John Vander for sucking ass what a

Dick man you know that’s a dick move I know you know that’s I never lik JT man I really never did like he’s just like and like just the fact of what he did in Hawaii you know like smells like douche people were literally on on my Twitter

Saying oh what did he say in Hawaii like I don’t know if they were [ __ ] with me trying to get get me to say it and I’m like I’m not repeating it they’re like why I’m like because it’s a homophobic slur like I’m not repeating that like that does when he was saying

It to himself yeah when he called him yeah you remember what he said right yeah I mean I say it to myself a lot a lot also but you know I’m not on camera yeah I know I’m not in front of a million people you know yeah anyway

Before we get to the international series I asked uh people who follow our Twitter to send over some questions so let’s get to a few of those um Crawford at CAD tweets ideas and suggestions about possible actually this is funny because Jake actually just mentioned it before interesting um entire team

Relegation in the future for live I haven’t seen or heard anyone discuss that topic at all if we get the 15 teams or the number they want it to be at its full potential how can they not do it so Crawford hopefully you watching because Jake just brought that up yeah and

Really for it to actually happen there would have to be a true pyramid system in live golf itself uh where there’s actually a Liv golf minor league that makes sense uh in in the European football system they have it to where they have in England it’s technically

Like seven to eight uh tiers of professional football by the time you get to the very bottom though they’re it’s not really professional football it’s so hard because like what happens right if you’re like John Rah right and you’re stuck with three guys that are horrible and they bring your team down

But Rah comes in fifth place how do you relegate them well you just do because then he goes and and he wins 15 events the next year I know but you’re not going to relegate someone like John Ram you know well so what happens I don’t

Think it’s golf at the end of the day golf is more an individual sport than a team sport so I don’t think someone should go out and like win a bunch and just because the other three guys you know like well and here here’s the thing

Though is that think about it like this and it it does get complicated because players do have ownership stake in teams yeah and the individual standings like they’re not what happens most the time in the in in English football and world world soccer that has promotion

Relegation team X is in the top League team X gets demoted pretty much any player that’s actually good goes they leave yes I know yeah and so that that’s pretty much what happens what they can do is if a team is horrible and you know all four of their guys are in relegation

Spot then that team’s gone and then you know the three guys that win the Asian tour um um the Asian Tour event at the end of the year um what is it called the um the promotion event yes the promotion event those three guys and the winner of

The Asian tour then they get to create their own team you know what I mean that be that’d be pretty cool um it would take quite a lot for that to happen uh uh but yeah that would be pretty cool to see that saying that’s that’s more you

Know realistic than you know someone that has a top 10 record in the standings individually but they came in 13th Place as a team getting relegated you know I mean that’s that’s kind of what I would see I I hope to see something like this one day happen um I

Think because of the ownership aspect of the captains or key players because I know certain key players do have an ownership stake even though they aren’t actually said to have an ownership stake um they would make things very difficult or confusing going forward but it’s you

Know what I would also like is for them to announce like the terms of these players like oh we signed teuch to be on the Range goats for the next two years you know cuz like that’s what’s so exciting about oh you know like you know

Like oh TC is going to be a free agent next year who’s going to grabb him well yeah but I mean it’s still in its infancy of figuring out how this looks or or works I mean and it’s not like a 20-man roster where somebody gets

Injured and then all of a sudden you know so it’s it’s really difficult to believe work these things out next question if lib open their doors a few time this is from the full wedge at the full wedge if Liv open their doors a few times a year for PGA Tour players to

Have a crack would they do it if so who would want to compete is it a forsome PGA Tour team spot that gets off double the purse that week to entice players well you don’t have to double the purse cuz Liv’s purse is already gigantic I don’t think it would be a

Full team but if players want to have a crack would they do it yes they would definitely do it I think it’d be a full team very easily and we saw what happened at the promotion event there were about five or so active PGA Tour members and these guys were guys that

Were fighting for their tour card these were not these were not big chickens and there were going to be some other players at show up but J Monahan on the PGA tour kind of went vindictive and basically were using this event they said initially no repercussions for

Going over to the event but then afterwards it had repercussions so they were basically using it to bait out who was a denter yeah PGA Tour Camp so there will be players who go but it’s probably going to be players that are fighting for a tour card that have like that YOLO

Mentality of yeah hey I this is my best chance right now you know and we saw that Martin trainer was over there we saw Jason duffner yeah Jason duffner um and then one other guy that I can’t think of off the top of my head uh but

You there were several guys out there that had actually won a PGH or event but they were in a situation where they’re not they’re not the top seven d is a freaking major Champion he won the PJ Championship you know he’s also 49 so he

Was like man this is this is let me try to get over there before I hit the Champions St you know Russell Jones who’s always singing your Praises um y Russy Russ in regards to the new PGA Tour corporate structure with no representatives of the DP World Tour and no mention of future

Strategy between the PGA Tour plus the SSG in regards to the DP World Tour and Rory and Clark calling for a smaller player pool what is the time frame before funding is reduced or stopped for the DP World Tour uh they want return on their investment cut their losses I

Think I don’t know I I know that they’re to like 2035 like when that first because I looked this up the other day because I think it would be smart that if the DP World Tour can get out of this agreement with the PGA Tour they make an

Agreement with Liv because that would be great like you’d have Asian tour DP World Tour and Liv like then you really don’t need the PGA Tour you know what I mean um so 2035 right now like who knows what could happen in the next 11 years

But if they can get out of it I think it would be smart um and that is telling like they haven’t said one thing about the DP World Tour so who knows if you know SSG is going to infuse some cash there I doubt they will I think they’re

Just right now they’re just worried about the PGA Tour the PGA Tour will not last 11 more years in its current iteration there will be if it does still exist in 11 years there will be drastic differences to what it currently is yeah and the de they don’t give a chicken

Salad for the DP world toour no it said it is it is there to farm talent for that is what the DP World Tour exists for right now it is a farm league for the PGA Tour and it has such good history too with like sevy with you know

Greg Norman with you know like all Colin Montgomery like even Rory you know like yeah yeah great guys who spent their entire career their entire keper got his start on the the European tour he instead of yeah instead of going to like the corn fairy tour whatever he

Played in Europe and honestly I feel like that’s the reason why he he you know like it’s not easy it’s not as easy as being on the PJ tour like you’re away from home like you got to get into a mindset you know like block [ __ ] out and

That’s why he’s such a great major Champion you know so yeah I I I would be I think we’d hear something about that this year um again they’re locked into an arrang between between now and 2035 uh the PGA Tour is focused 100% at this moment on just trying to save its

Own bacon and just try to stay afloat and try to keep what players they have what what good players they have left yeah and take the the scrappy players that the the Jake knps the the guys that are nobody’s right now and turn them into somebody’s quickly so that way they

Can actually have a new a new talent pool even even though they’re just they’re just it has you can’t like be like I’m gonna turn this guy into a star it has to happen organically it has to but but they’re but they’re forcing it they’re forcing it and and No One’s

Gonna no one’s going to believe those guys are stars when you’re forcing it like you know Brooks kka didn’t become Brooks kka because they said oh we’re going to make Brooks kepka the next like he went out and won major Champions you know some guys they made St yeah not

Only that but Brooks Kea looked like a somebody yes like you like Ricky Fowler they turned Ricky fower into a star they turned him into a star yes because what it takes there’s two ways you can make make be a star organically well actually three ways organically forced and then personality

And so there are players like we go out and win Majors you know well that’s why I said which is organically yes organically so like Ian polter is a star recognizable star because of his personality what toel on his pants and yeah crazy shoes he won some tournaments

But he never was the guy he was a guy but he never was the guy and his personality at the rup he was such a bad ass at the rup you know but he’s like yes for yes for parnov somebody that you know of because his personality he’s

Kind of like John Daly you know him because his personality if joh didn’t have the majors y yes and yes he did it organically by winning Majors but he also did it because of his personality he’s a he’s a twofold that’s why he’s a super superstar yeah that’s why John

Daly is still one of the top draws in golf despite being John daily you know his his event at the at the Masters every year he sets up like a a a bus at Hooters and like he gets a ton of people there like people go there to watch the

Masters yeah and so that’s that’s an example of it but so the the PGA Tour though there’s so many cookie cutter generic looking dudes in the PGA tour right now and they get them every year because the generic model the generic model works and gets you on the tour

Yeah that’s what it takes to get on the tour is to be generic uh you know you fall you dress the same you say yes sir no sir you don’t have any face tattoos and and you just you just follow that model right yeah and so a lot of these

Guys that they get every single year from the corn fairy and and other methods are just uh generic cookie cutter looking dudes that may eventually morph into their own personality I mean obviously you look at John Ramen age 22 it’s a very different looking John rum

But he still had a uniqueness about him yeah and that’s his swing his swing is unique you know exactly and so he’s from Spain everybody thought the next Sergio the next sevy you know like this yeah even though he could eat both of those guys yeah I don’t know if you could eat

Seevi yet we can’t that’s still to be seen I mean seev is one of the greats man no I said eat as in like oh okay gotta okay like you know he’s a big dude okay okay gotcha gotcha both of those dudes are teeny tiny yeah I get it

Speaking of the PGA Tour Scotty sheffa finally Rory said he should putt with the put with the Mallet he puts a mallet in the bag and he goes out and dominates beill and beill they honestly like people want to say like the leaderboard and the fields are shitty beill had a top-notch

Leaderboard at topnotch field beill looked as it should Arnold Palmer is you know a God in the world a golfin best should go play there like that’s what I’m saying like if they open up a few spots for you know anybody on live would want to play Bay Hill it’s you know for

Arnold Palmer like nobody could turn around and say Arnold Palmer is not the best and you shouldn’t want to you know show tribute to him you know which I which I hate that that that the same level of respect is not given to Byron Nelson and to Hogan because their their

Events most of the big guys ignore yeah and I hate that yeah so I really do hate that I’m tired of probably it’s probably like the Florida Texas you know like a lot of these guys live in Florida you know like people don’t like to to Texas

You know yeah but even the Texas guys don’t like to show up at at those events I mean last year spe missed out in both of them and and sheffler missed out in both of them I think or at least one of them it was weird it was like why are

You guys miss you guys live 14 yeah the Texas guys should show up and rep you know but yeah man putting well now he is a six to one favorite to win The Masters up until this week it was Rory was the favorite to win The Masters at like 8

To1 Scotty was like 9 to1 or 10 to one now Scotty 6 to one to win The Masters you know it’s kind of pathetic because the the best three guys to win The Masters don’t play the PGA Tour we’re just gonna be real at that right now I

Mean it’s John ROM Brooks kka walking Neiman those are the the three favores I wouldn’t give nean a favorite like neeman’s I give a favor he’s like I would say top 10 but you gota after the way Sheffer put you have to put Sheffer in there and you have to put havin in

There too the way he finished last year you know sheffer’s looking good I’m glad that he finally won it was getting pretty frustrating for him to be number one in the world and haven’t won an entire year an entire it was like what 51 weeks 51 weeks yeah and so I’m not

Hating on him for that I’m hating on on the owgr for being where it’s at yeah big the big dogs the big dogs have not been dominant and that’s just what it is I mean like Brian Harmon and Windam Clark like winning like well Windom just

Won again but like Harmon winning like I was watching the rder cut um the full swing with my wife I I my wife loves the full swing and like it’s like she likes watching golf with me um you know like she has her favorites her favorite’s Justin Rose that’s her favorite um he’s

A classy guy yeah but um we were watching the ride a cup and I was just shaking my head like man like when they dissed Keegan and Keegan didn’t make it and I’m like man like Brian Harman really screwed that up because if Harman doesn’t win the open Horman doesn’t get

Picked and Keegan gets picked and like like that was such a disappointing ride of cut but anyway everything about it was disappointing yeah there was no competition that’s why I call it the rape in Rome yeah and the president’s cop is going to be oh my God a pillage

Well I mean it’s going to be interesting because it’s playing in Canada you know they’re going to have five to six Canadians on there and there are five to six Canadians that are actually worthy to be on there right now pretty funny but you know but without Cam Smith

Without Neiman without USIS and like without Abraham answer I it’s gonna be a beat down or at least it should be a beat down like there’s I feel like the live like we can put an international team together on live like there’s at least eight guys better yeah definitely

Like I don’t know if there’s enough I don’t know if there’s 12 guys that well pause pause look at the think of this way we got you got nean Pereira Munos yeah Ortiz Smith you wouldn’t put Ortiz on on that roster you put Abraham aner that’s your fourth guy Ortiz is where

Wait where’s Ortiz from Mexico but you wouldn’t put him on the roster for this one I’m saying like there’s not 12 other guys better than Ortiz let me get through the r all go let me get through the roster yeah so we got so we got fourth guy got we got Abraham aner

Cameron Smith Lucas Herbert you can consider leechman probably not right now he’s not playing too good um then you go down and then you’ve got South Africans yeah the South Africans so you got usas and burm schwarzel I would take all three of those guys right there and there um and

Then it becomes kind of a tossup toward the end but yeah you you’d probably put uh you know Ortiz definitely Ortiz maybe you put Danny Lee over him but you probably put instead or you’re also missing like the guys that are still on the PGA tour like you have to take

Matuyama you have to take Jason day you have to take Adam Scott you know so if you took six from Liv yeah if you took six from Liv and six from PJ like even then you don’t have a shot you know but like you know like they’re 0 and 12 all

12 and one or 0 and 11 and one like it’s like something needs to be changed for that yeah this could be an interesting one because like said it’s going to be a heavy Canadian team in Canada so we’ll see what happens but I don’t think I I’m

Not hopeful yep anyway to wrap it up we got the international Series maau 22 golf is Anthony Kim Hara Perez Reed Cal leiri pugge chakara Sergio ogal tree Danny Lee Kevin o calb Sarat Kieran Vincent Ian polter Lucas Herbert Gran McDow Jason CRA Carlos AZ Pereira Muno

Swafford honestly I would love to see Caleb Sako over there and win it’d be interesting to see him show up pretty hard I’m not expecting it I know they’re already they’re already over there so it’s not the live guys have a good Advantage for being and Hong Kong are

Like so close right well basically I mean it’s it’s still it’s still it’s still the same area they’re in that they’re in that bay area of China yeah I’m saying like it’s not like they like have to go to like Russia or like you know like India you know it’s like right

There they’re going they’re going like two hours um by by boat and and it would be by by boat because traffic would be too terrible to try to drive um so yeah they’re pretty they’re really close and they’re both both it would be like me from New York Going Up To Boston pretty

Much pretty much I mean it would feel similar who would you want if if you could pick one of these guys to really have a good showing and really turn that season around who would you pick to turn their season around yeah um I want I

Want to see Kieran Vincent show up I really do I mean is he on that list I’m sorry Kieran Vincent is who I would would really want to see show up I think he needs some confidence right there and I think confidence for him would go a

Long way for getting Legion 13 going again but um honestly any of those guys from the Liv I want to see win because when Liv goes out like this to an event representing hard like this I want Liv to win because it showcases that that the live guys really are better than the

Asian tour players and then you’ll get the [ __ ] oh of course look who they’re playing which is nonsense you know but you get it worse if they don’t win so it’s really important the live guys go there and win if I’m really getting sick of the the

Crazy like let’s look at it as rightwing and leftwing politics in in you know the US it’s like one side you got the crazy PGA Tour guys and then also like some of these crazy live guys like I look at some of that post and I’m like oh my God

Like like I’m a li fan too but like you’re [ __ ] you’re insane with so of these T honestly like baby girl calm down yeah like the like they’re all living accounts and live Bots like what Rory said like you know some of the live Bots they just like you could tell them

The [ __ ] sky is blue and they will say no chance it’s [ __ ] red and like live sky is high flyer yes it’s insane like what yep but then so that’s gonna be a big event obviously we GNA be on Kim watch to see how he does it both Kim

Anthony Kim and sewan Kim and will zorus he’s back players this week the 50th edition of The Players past week I was I actually went and put a bet on him $50 to win he was 33 to1 so $50 would win me like 1,800 I don’t think he’s in winning

In winning form right now he he I I feel like he’s a guy that’s when he wins he’s going to come with like a like if he wins the players like he’s never won before like if he wins the players like he’s won one tournament has he yes he

Did he won he won he won a playoff event last year I think it was the Windom he wasn’t playing two years ago before his first injury now again I’m surprised to see him playing healthy again and looking decent because he was looking like you know again two back two back

Injuries back to back I figured his career was pretty much in the pooper like he was he was gonna be one of those guys St Jude he won you’re right St Jude but yeah it was a playoff event and then he won that event that was his only

Event that he’s won um I’m I’m hopeful I think that he’s gonna have a better I think he’s gonna have a good season ahead of him and it’s good to see him back because the PGA is desperate for star power right now yeah and so and he’s a star he’s a star

Um it’s weird that he’s a star but he’s a star and so you know we’ll see what happens but real talk Scotty shefford you can’t go wrong with him right now if he’s putting well yeah because the only reason Scotty Sheffer did not go full 2000 tiger 6 Tiger Woods last year is

Because the dude couldn’t putt I mean first in T and off the te first in in in Iron shots first in in t to Green as far as everything about the game he was first in except for putting he was like 200 something yeah it’s it’s really is

Crazy but honestly Rory said use the Mallet he went to a mallet and look at that well and and it makes sense because and it’s all wet putting comes down the confidence so like once you see those putts going in man like you become [ __ ] hot you know I’ve never

Understood why he ever used a blade look blades are cool looking they look they look special they look that they have that classy look to him there’s a reason why pretty much everyone who’s a good putter uses a mallet Ty uses a blade tiger is Tiger okay he he could probably

As a dick and he’d still hit still shoot last year I B A Scotty Cameron played and honestly man I don’t know if it’s the confidence or what or just because I felt like I had a Scotty I’m making everything well you know whatever dude you’re an anomaly yeah but I’m telling

You right now like most of the time man the the weight distribution in the in the mallets is just so much smoother for transition the face not being open closed what have you yeah because you can fudge up so easily with the Mallet and then all of a sudden you know scooch

It off the green or cut cut it left cut it right the balance is so much better and so much more forgiving what’s that key word we always talk about forgiveness forgiveness if there’s any place that you want forgiveness it’s in your putter yep you may not think that

You may not think that off the top of your head but you want forgiveness and your of course yeah of course and so for someone like Scotty Sheffer who has proven with his past putting style that he is not tore ready as a putter as a

Putter he is not tore caliber in putting truth not lie truth if he can just get himself to be Tor relevant that dude’s going to win seven times this year yeah and we’re talking about a major Champion too man they we’re saying he’s not tall quality

Putting like it’s insane how bad of a putter he is but if he get like he he could go he could like win five Majors easily like that that might be win four majors this year that might be under you know cutting him five you know like he

Could be he could be a generational he could be our this Generations Tiger Woods if he gets the putting done he’s that good yeah he’s that good it’s it’s the same thing with Cam Smith he is the opposite of Cam Smith cam Smith if Cam Smith could learn how to drive the ball

He would he would be that guy yeah it’s amazing and then Rory if Rory could figure out how to play a wedge yep it’s amazing how the three three of the top players in Our Generation all have a deficiency with the game have one club

Or one you know type of shot that they just blow donkey de there’s two guys in the golf world right now that I think could get to the Rory and Brooks major Champion Rory has four Brooks has five Scotty Sheffer and John Ram those are

The two guys that I think could get to that four five number do you think that spe or Thomas spe like speed yeah do you think that speed or Thomas get one more in their career yeah I think they’ll get one more I think they Justin Thomas will

Probably win another PGA like you know like yeah they’ll just luck into one because some guy will was you know he get into another Meo Perera situation and then and then be a douchebag and thank that guy yeah well spe just needs a PGA to complete the Grand Slam you

Know like I think SP gets the four I don’t think Justin Thomas gets the four but I think he’ll get the three yeah and honestly I those are the two those are two other guys I don’t think that their game is strong right now as far as being

Up there in the echelon that’s why we don’t talk about them very much the way speed was winning those Majors so early on the fact like it’s it’s so like like how that happened like even Rory Rory won four like that and then he hasn’t won one in N years spe won three

And like like spe almost won the first Masters he played and then he came back the next year won the Masters won the open won like he was just and even more coward more C won two in like his first two years and he hasn’t been like like

When you’re on a rooll you need to you need to beg those Majors because you never know when you’re gonna get back there well part of it is is that we’ve talked about it before but it’s the difference between being a player with no commitments and a player with all

These I know they win those events before they have billions of sponsorship requirements y well they married or they you know kids kids you know all of that stuff takes away from your golf game yep and you know most of those guys go through a slump in their career around

The time of 27 through 34 it’s because hey I’ve got a I’ve got stupid amounts of things I have to do for sponsorships okay I can’t practice this week because I gotta go jerk offs the CEO of AT&T for again yeah that’s why tiger was the best

Cuz like he no matter what he had in life he’s still like he did whatever you had to do you know yeah the only thing that the only thing that derailed him was his own injuries or his wife yeah I mean those those are literally the only

Two things it his fault for sleeping with 20 plus women but yeah I guess you could say his wife right I mean I mean I’m not blaming tiger because I I can’t look diie you and I both know that we have never had and never will have the tempt and situational opportunities that

Tiger had oh definitely not no and and we both know that tiger turned down more opportunities than he took yeah of course let’s be real right now yeah so when I when people when people hate on him for that like they don’t unless you’re unless you’re Tom Cruz or Robert

Dowy Jr or you know Brad Pit you have no like to talk on you have no like to stand on because you don’t understand the Temptation that man had to deal with yeah because because I remember a talk one time there’s a talk that came out one time where he’s talking young Tiger

Woods is talking with with Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley and he’s asking them so Jan how do we uh how do we get the get the ladies guys and just say I’m Tiger Woods yeah no no he said I’m tiger [ __ ] woods and then just and then just sit

Back I think he was with Derek Jeter to be honest with you I think it was Derek Jeter tiger uh tiger yeah cuz I remember someone I hear hearing that conversation like oh what do you say to them TIG woods and that was what yeah but anyway

So again I don’t give him a pass but I also say like hey man like we we will never understand what he had to go through yes The Temptations and the opportunities yep anyway on that note um this episode’s brought to you by Birdy town.com go to the link in the

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13 Comments

  1. Also 100 percent the team aspect needs to stay. Obviously it’s secondary to the individual aspect but the team aspect creates SO many more story lines and once you have more trades and relegations it is really going to pop even more. The teams are an awesome component to the format

  2. Golf is where Cricket was back in the 70’s , it took a whole new approach to how the game was played to bring it to a younger generation and now the shorter form of the game is huge , LIV is and will do the same for golf

  3. Once again a great review guys of current events , you guys are my no1 for golf no biased golf news

  4. The team & individual component is awesome in LIV Golf. It's compelling like it was on Sunday in Hong Kong. It just hooked me in & the team leaderboard was constantly changing….great stuff. My friends can't watch the PGAT anymore as the TV presentation is just not interesting but with LIV it's in your face & just fun. Also for a 54 man field how many hole in ones have we had since the beginning of the LIV year which included 2 on Sunday (Niemann & Samooja). What other tour is producing that grade of golf!

  5. International Liv Team of 12 below

    This 12 is better than PGAT 12 available — If you disagree Name Pga 12

    PGA could not find a decent 12

    3 stand out players –
    Hideki
    Lee
    Day

    Supporting cast

    Im
    An
    Fox
    Conners
    Kim
    Rooyen

    5 in form top players

    Niemann
    Smith
    Burmester
    Louis
    Munoz

    Supporting cast

    Ancer
    Ortiz
    Lahiri
    Grace
    Leishman
    Mito
    Schwartzel

  6. Give Kim a couple of months. Wrote him off last week, now you’re back on. Make your call and stick with it or wait.

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