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Best Ball Ep. 35: NBA Best Ball LIVE Draft



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Welcome back to the fanse network I’m your host Fredy stett joined today by Tyler Hicks and we are going to dive right into some NBA best ball so Tyler I’m going to throw this up on the stage and I am going to enter right now uh I’m

In the little $10 contest 50k to First 500k total prizes and let’s see how many people we’re waiting for we’re waiting for two people um Tyler I’ve said this before when I did the other show I think that who you draft to start depends on your position and I think you should be

Stacking every team so if you get number one you’re on a Denver stack you get number two you’re kind of on a Boston stack but it’s weird because you can’t run it back um three is a Milwaukee stack four is a thunder stack five I went with the Clipper stack last time

But you can potentially do a Boston stack there because you can grab Jaylen and porzingis there and I was worried you don’t get it but if you that doesn’t work I would go Jaylen Jamal Murray or porzingis Jamal Murray with the idea that even though it’s not the pure stack

You’re going to get the two teams most likely to be in the finals um and then we just have some outliers here like you know for your secondary Stacks you can try and grab Luca for Dallas uh here’s more Clippers action some Minnesota so Tyler overall um we we expect a

Boston Denver finals but when we’re making these secondary Stacks What teams do you think are live yeah you expect the Denver Boston finals I think the East is a little more wide open I think Philly could sneak in there depending on what embid looks like when he gets back

And that’s a great secondary stack because embiid’s all the way down here at where’s his ADP I had to scroll past he was on the scre right there he’s 19.3 ADP right now yeah so that’s a pure secondary stack right there I could see them I could see

The Bucks where I know you’re not going to be able to get Giannis as your second pick but I could see a Denver bucks you could easily get yic and Dame right where’s Dame’s ADP in this it’s pretty high actually um we’re down to waiting for one person Dame is

Actually it’s pretty high he’s 10.9 right now okay so y Giannis Dame is actually pretty pretty easy to get cuz at 3: he’s usually there cuz you’re coming back at 9: yeah yeah I wonder if there’s another strategy to this too if for you just try

And get like you don’t like all right you don’t think the Heat make the finals but you think they push their way to the Conference Finals I want the high usage guys off of the you know what I mean like you we yeah that has to be a

Strategy unless you you know somebody dumb lucks into someone that allows you to St and how many times do we see guys in playoff series just drop buku numbers where they’re averaging like 37 points 14 rebounds and eight assists a game and their team loses a seven game series

Like he might not no I mean really it comes down to ideally you’re getting one of Boston and or Denver as your primary stack and then you got to go Underdog on the other one Speaking of Boston they just rolled out half their team for the night

Okay um yeah we’ll be doing that oh I forgot to throw the last couple numbers in projections so what’s that line going to stay at I’m wondering all right well we’ll do that on the NBA rundown and of course that’s coming up we’re waiting for one more person here

Um Okay C what do you think their ceiling is I think they can get knocked out in the first round to be completely honest because they can get they could just get a tough match up where it’s like the Lakers or Golden State come in just a team with experience to where they

Really don’t have it yet but I wouldn’t consider like them losing to the Lakers in the first round like a failure of a season so I mean I think they would I think they would but in the end it’s like it stuff happen bad matchups you had a great regular season you showed

Promise you got a little playoff experience you lost to a guy who’s been there a ton bro the secondary Lakers stack is so easy to get ad’s coming in at 28 right so hold on hold on that wasn’t what I wanted where’s the little oh they don’t have the draft area right

Now um but let’s see 6 12 24 you could start doing that uh uh ad LeBron stack in the fourth round I mean tell me that’s not an awesome secondary stack yeah you talked about teams that can go to the to Western conf or to a Conference Finals

Being able to get you there right like if you grab Boston and then you get a Lakers secondary stack and we are live Tyler um we got pick um so do so this is a fun question now Tyler at four we’re most likely GNA have Shay being our top player right

Uhuh do we want to go with the OKC stack do we want to do a Clipper stack or do we want to do the secondary Boston stack with Jaylen and porzingis which might be hard to get it for but you got Jamal Murray and Luca as

Fallbacks here who should we we would be targeting it for oh we’ll take SGA you want to do uh you want to do a thunder stack yeah we could do that I’m so worried about them but this is why this is fun right I mean it’s not like

We’re committed to it it’s like $10 and I can hopefully somebody just takes him instead of Yannis but I don’t see it happening there’s no way I don’t think there’s any way okay so let’s say if we go four let’s just start filling up how the stack would

Luck so we got okay oh we got Shay there who’s going to be our second player it’s going to be far down huh chat’s at 16 so I’m going to try and get him next all right so who do we want to try and Target just like as a random

Player to put up stats for us I’m thinking Luca yeah because we’re not stacking yeah it’s got of I think it’s got to be Luca or Dame the only thing I yeah cuz we can’t get a secondary Milwaukee stack and there’s no one I want a secondary stack in the East that

High what do you think about Cleveland here uh I mean I don’t I don’t think they make much noise in the playoffs all right so so far it’s gone to ADP joic Tatum Giannis Shay yeah I’m having problems although um the Cleveland secondary stack is kind of appealing as well so let’s

See our next one will be pick nine and then after that I pick at 16 chat’s ADP is 16 so we’re going to go best player available at nine and we still get our other stack I’m thinking Luca Tyler what do you think Luca or Jamal Murray because Jamal Murray

Probably plays till the finals Where Luka could play in the Luca could play in the playe and not play in the playoffs who do you think would be better I’d say Jamal okay that’s who we’ll Target right now then so yeah uh it’s gone pretty much according to how these things go Kawai

At five I think that’s an interesting one all right so he took Luca for us so we didn’t have to make the decision yeah let’s take Jamal then all right so we got Murray and now we’re going to draft chat next okay so if we’re going to

Continue along and we need to start targeting Eastern players too um Jaylen sitting here at 24 now now this is just my head thinking just as I’m watching you scroll through that board instead of defaulting the chat why not take the shot on him

Cuz I want to have a stack I want to have everything correlated I mean you could get Jaylen Williams later but I want all three because the idea there would be that if I get if OKC goes to the finals I’m so sad yeah but at the same time if

They was in the first round you’re dead well that’s how all these are though yeah but if you kind of space it out it could be like well I got a One V one in the finals of two of the most highest usage players I while the other guy has half his team

Dead I don’t hate that um I could just see I could see Jamal Murray in embiid being the one V one in the finals I don’t hate that and you know what if I’m Philly that’s I mean if I’m Denver that’s the one team I don’t want

To play yeah like I I think that would be a good pick in that spot but I understand the whole stacking idea yeah let’s see where we’re at now where’s him be at he might be able to fall I thought he was right around there right around uh

Chat did he get taken this conversation might be I think this conversation’s um yeah he’s already taken okay somebody had the right idea okay so then we just take chat then it’s a no-brainer right but I guess so I mean why not we that’s what I think you have to do on these

Teams I think you just stack and pre I I don’t like that like I get it for some teams but like I would not do this for all my teams why because you could if you if you end up stacking your exposure heavily to one team and they lose you’re just flushing

Money on the drain I’d rather have more shots at but the thing is like let’s just say you have a balance team right let’s say you have Luca Dame all the stars right A1 all the stars if I stack and my team makes the finals I’m gonna beat

You yeah but I also think it’s just going to be very tough to get your stack to the finals isn’t that crazy that OKC wins I mean they could win put couple playoff series but I don’t think they could beat a Denver they could if Jamal Murray gets

Hurt I still don’t think they could really got it’s got to be yic going down he’s going to destroy that team yeah but we saw Denver without Murray and they’re I don’t know okay well regardless I committed to that OKC stack Tyler so here’s what you

Can help me right and um the the thing we need to do is make sure we go balanced here so I have two guards One Wing one big so at 28 we’re starting to look for our secondary Stacks right um do you want to do a Miami one

That’s what I did last time I don’t know if he’ll be available but we could try and get Jimmy so okay so our choices are Miami New York and Philly with no embiid which I don’t really like I guess you you can kind of secondary stack Milwaukee here oh Jimmy’s gone huh

Okay do we want to try New York or like just Milwaukee pieces I me best available player brunson’s probably the best available player right here I’ll put that here so we don’t end up with Al Harford while we discuss okay other options would be Kyrie I don’t want sabonis bam even

Though we don’t have him we just going to go Nick yeah that’s fine it’d be bam or him and okay well we just committed to a Nick secondary stat Tyler you’re GNA hate this but now I just queued up Julius Randall where’s some more Nicks do we want giddy for this OKC just

Throw him on there queue up Josh Hart wherever he’s at yeah I’m looking for him I don’t and he’s pretty low we have OG what do you think about him he’s not a bad one yeah especially on Underdog War stocks mean more okay but here’s the

Thing we’re at 33 Julius randle’s 39 and I actually don’t think people are going to be too excited to take him we’re on a best player available here right now demontis bam Maxi or cat bam okay that dude who drops a Jimmy he is going to be pissed unless he gets him right

Now there’s the Clipper stack right there all right uh we just took bam and now we’re going to continue to Target our Stacks um Julius at 39 I’ll take him if he’s available and he’s one of those ones like if I miss him am I really too

Sad right no let’s kind of look at what the other guys are doing um so like I said if you get pick one you’re on a Denver stack he got jic Gordon embiid and AD LeBron he has a nice secondary stack there with the Lakers our next guy

Has a Boston stack he took Tatum Derek white and then he kind of just is going best available with Harden Booker Butler and Yousef um I kind of screwed him there by taking bam but whatever that’s the game uh Brook locz Rudy KD A1 Dame Giannis he’s got a little bit bit of

Correlation there in Milwaukee and he’s just running it back with best available we are on a modified OKC Nick stack um next available is Kawai Luca that’s weird well he got PG that’s cool he got Kawai PG Kyrie zubac he’s too West heavy on this fifth pick and then uh here let me

Get back what do we need in West player right now well I was going to probably take Randall because we’re at yeah I’ll take Randall right here because we have our West pretty good right so now it’s the Knicks and so let’s skip both these guys and just take best available here that’s

Fine okay so oh there went Fox I got Ingram what do you think of Kyrie or halberton I mean Curry or halberton I mean Curry one of one of those things in that list of names right now spread isn’t like the others is there someone else you want me to hit no it’s

Steph I have no problem taking Steph if they survive he’s gonna dominate the playoffs been there done that like he could definitely explode in the playoffs I think halberton will too I think that I don’t think they’re GNA I think they’re one and done I don’t think

That style of play works in the playoffs yeah it could be that could be a point okay so next one I actually like OG more than giddy so we’ll go him next because giddy’s not playing in the playoffs yeah he will he’s not gonna play much he’s gonna get hunted in every

Matchup there’s always certain guys that play a ton of minutes in the regular season that end up getting played off the floor in the playoffs and he fits the criteria I think uh look at what this guy did at six Tyler he’s got Jaylen Brown christops and holidays his first three

Right that’s huge then he gets some Porter so a little bit of Denver exposure then Horford then he got sabonis Fox and kcp that’s not bad um I think he did a great job and he’s just really rooting for the Kings here which uh I don’t know if that’s the position

I’d want to be in but hey more power to him can you believe this guy took bad Bradley Beal over halberton I guess the Phoenix does have better uh get Steph or no yeah okay but now we have four guards Tyler I keep forgetting this is only six-man pod

So I’m thinking our picks take longer to come back around yeah so I’m actually going to take giddy off the list right now because yeah get giddy off the list well what do we we need guards bigs we we have guards we need wings and bigs I’m actually kind of comfortable with

With Chad and Bam if we don’t take an anobi does does Hero classify as a a wing no he’s a guard damn you know what pissed me off last time is I had a bunch of wings last time and they had Duncan

As a wing and I was be a bad late pick I like Duncan a lot he’s been playing Victor listed there I don’t know maybe because people are dumb and they’ll take them that is crazy huh all right so we got OG’s so um back to my little team here so we

Start I was going to say just noticing this board in the way that I just seen that we know how much time we got to decide we gotta uh I think the next time we do this the strategy is try and snag as many like

One V ones or just two pieces off of these Stacks we like like a Denver or Milwaukee or Boston and the back the backend stack is this Orlando stack cuz look at how late their best players going you’re telling me Orlando can’t win a playoff Orlando’s gonna win one

Playoff series I think the way’re best player available right now we can take some I’d be down for Paulo If he’s gonna be there I mean he is that’s a wing right there spread he’s gonna win a playoff series and he’s their best player you really think they are they lately the

The defense they play they’re going to win a play I’m just pissed because they didn’t went for us the last time we bet them that was yeah it was tough that was against Indiana okay I’ll take Paulo but just so you know I’m taking giddy next if he falls CU we’re at 442

Now I guess I should take another what the what are the bigs left um yon yonis valentz Draymond I mean the the Golden State stack sitting right there yeah we got do let’s get Dre ahead of giddy I don’t think anyone’s gonna take giddy I don’t because I think everyone realizes he’s

Getting played off the floor in the playoffs NS Reed’s another good one I like that what about hartenstein is Mitchell Robinson below him yeah wait it’s over oh my bad we didn’t have any more players to pick oh ah all right uh do you want to do one more

Or do you just want to get ready for NBA rundown we get ready for NBA rown we can go over the team real quick all right let’s go over the team pull that back up yeah remember I told you I said these these drafts are quick I said this

Show’s not going to be I’m like thinking we’re about to like draft like six more guys I’m like lining them all up in my head and it’s just like yeah you’re done yeah okay hold on completed is this the one we just did yeah all right so can I look at the

Whole draft board here how do I look at the whole draft board again on this draft it says right there view full draft oh I’m stupid thank you good thing I have you here all right we’ll start with my team and then we’ll go over the other teams

And just kind of look at the strategy and let’s just see how many people are stacking how many people are going best player available fetching or draag yeah why is this taking so long how much do you think that the bestas ball standings changed with all these moves with the

Football moves yeah oh they definitely moved around a ton I was telling Meg all these running backs like totally change the beste ball landscape and then it doesn’t affect the the the uh betting at all at the only one I really think affected the odds was Derrick Henry I

Don’t think it affected the odds at all what does that do to their team it changes anything it it allows them to protect leads better I don’t think this draft is going to be fetched what the they were they were able to protect leads all last year

They just couldn’t or they just didn’t give them the ball in the playoffs the running backs they literally ran the ball all the way to the conference Championship and then changed it up and tried to throw it like yeah maybe with Derrick Henry they won’t do that I mean

They might be dumb enough to do it with them um what do you think of Jacobs to the Packers as far as let’s talk about this is a fantasy show and we’re fetching the draft and it looks like it’s not gonna happen it’s gonna be a [ __ ] to tackle

That guy when it’s negative4 degrees in Green Bay and he’s an open field do you think he’s an upgrade over Aaron Jones I think so do you think it actually affects the win total I that’s another one I actually think slight I think it’s a slight

Upgrade cuz I think game would you think yeah he’s a he he’s a little more healthier than Aaron Jones he’s a little younger and he’s he’s kind of Aaron Jones and AJ Dyan put together he’s as big as AJ Dylan but he runs hard like AJ Dylan sucks

Yeah like if Jacob starts breaking through and getting to the second level on teams when Green Bay in mid December like he’s going to be a problem yeah all right I don’t think it’s going to let us go over our draft just go pull it up on the

Side we’ll just go on my team um so basically you know Tyler and I were have a little bit of difference here uh but I’m a big proponent at stacking so we went with the main OKC stack and we ran it back with a secondary Nick stack um

And then you saw as we were doing it when you can Target your players like we knew we had chat so I don’t want to overdraft him when you figured out your stack you always go best player available in between those picks so um I mean honestly I really like that

Clippers Miami stack I did on the last show here on fans speak a lot better however um you know hey this is why you just try and get a lot of entries in here and while I who do you think has a better chance Tyler OKC are the

Clippers probably the Clippers should we have done a Clipper stack here at four my worri the only reason I didn’t is I already have one I’m not like very high on either team like at the moment I the more I think about it I think Denver is

Just clear-cut the best team in the west and I mean but that’s the problem here is like unless you get the number one pick you have to yeah that’s the thing is like I kind of feel like we’re playing for second anyway in the west when we draft these guys yeah OKC could

Definitely be second in the west like they can get to the Conference Finals and match up with Denver yeah so on see it sucks so because I actually well I actually I also think OKC has a better chance of avoiding the Denver match up up until the Conference Finals

Yeah and they actually potentially have the home court advantage against Miami I mean against Denver um which could definitely help us here especially when we’re just looking at best ball and we just want to ball out so we do have a little Denver exposure here though so

Cuz we talked about hey I knew I was going to get chat no matter what uh here at 16 so for our second pick we went best player available Jamal Murray with um High finals chances uh but the thing that kind of sucks for me Tyler

Is I don’t know maybe I should get on best player available from the east on that pick because let’s just I mean if Denver makes it this team’s dead anyways um we also took Steph and Jaylen and we we wanted to run it back with Draymond but I forgot we didn’t have

Enough picks uh we have Nick Thunder here on the wings Jaylen Julius OG also Chad and Bam so not as I don’t know what the right word is I would lik to be more just all in on on a couple teams here but we’re we’re going to see how it goes

And sometimes that’s just not possible so um we’re going to do another one of these next week and and maybe we’ll try Tyler’s just best player available strategy there next time and and just see what happens and see what team does better um and that’ll be fun cuz I’ve

Already kind you know so now I stacked the Thunder I’ve stacked the Knicks I’ve stacked the heat I stacked the Clippers um unless you get number one you can’t stack Denver and I’ll try for that Boston stack next time I land on six but I’m not necessarily in love with it Tyler

Like I want a Denver stack if we go if like let’s say we keep doing these drafts and we go into the playoffs and we don’t have a Boston stack I’m kind of fine with it yeah I’d rather have a Milwaukee stack than a Boston stack to

Be completely honest I mean I believe that Boston has a much better chance to make the finals in Milwaukee but the way that we’re looking at it is that Boston te’s going to be so popular that I think if there’s any team that can like just overcome the whole Doc

Rivers thing it’s the same team that overcome the booten hoer yep okay where these guys are just bigger they’re making their shots Giannis is going crazy and it’s like I could just kind of stand here and do nothing yeah and the thing is like we talk about Doc

Rivers he’s just not that bad he’s just not Elite right yeah like he’s just not Nick nurse he’s not spol but against Boston wouldn’t you say that he has a coaching Advantage I think so right I think I’d rather have Doc Rivers than Joe moula yep watching the town every

Night the guy that’s coaching against Boston tonight I would rather have than Boston’s coach will hardy that should be Boston’s actual coach yeah probably H but Danny a is no dummy and he took him with him to Utah yeah Danny a sharp see what’s going on there um yeah and actually Boston and

Utah play tonight so that’ll be a lot of fun so uh anyways Free Bet Utah money line they’re beating Boston tonight Boston ruled everybody out yeah uh I haven’t dug as deep into the NBA card for tonight as uh as IID wanted to so um final I’ll go over this

One more time um for the best ball um it is my belief that you need to just you let your pick dictate your stack if you pick number one you stack Denver you pick number two you stack um who’s the number two Tyler I’m so I can’t believe

I can’t remember up top of my head right now oh you pick Boston you’re going to get the secondary Boston stack with Tatum if you pick three you’re stacking Milwaukee if you pick four you have your choice between secondary Boston stack which with Jaylen KP Clipper stack or

Thunder stack we went with a thunder stack today and I actually think that that’s more plausible than than some people are giving that credit for the best part about that Thunder stack that we did today is you get to grab that best player available one thing I may be

Second guessing myself on maybe I want to go out of the East there um but if OKC made the finals and they beat Denver in the Western Conference FAL that Jamal Murray might come in handy there Tyler so um don’t hate the way that we approach this we’ll be back next week

And we’re going to try Tyler strategy next week and we’re just going to grab best player available and we’re going to say you know what we don’t care about no Stacks all right thank you everybody this is the fans speak n network make sure you’re subscribed because uh Megan

Steve will continue to go live with their rookie breakdowns those have been fantastic for me so far really informative because I all football season I do NBA and NFL and I don’t watch a lot of college so I’m learning about these players and getting ready uh

As we’ll be sliding into some NBA drafts I’ve been bugging mag that I want to do NBA drafts right away I’ve been bugging mag that I want to just go on and argue about football after all this free agency um because our DMS are a lot of

Fun right now as um you know fortunately she’s not the GM of her team and uh Kurt Cousins is on the Atlanta Falcons so now Washington commanders are set up right um instead of getting Mr right now they’re going to get Mr Right and I’m going to be talking to Mega about that

The next time we go on the air and Tyler your Steelers are looking pretty good too are you excited about the new additions not talking about Bobby Brown I’m talking about Patrick Queen and Russell Wilson yeah definitely I mean finally got a real quarterback we don’t got Mr small hands under Center anymore

Fixed the middle linebacker spot brought Patrick Queen in now we’re going to have a good draft and going to be a playoff Contender next year spread yeah if I were you I’d be really happy um I was a little disappointed in minu but everyone else thought I should be excited what

Did you think he’s not your long-term answer but he’s he’s a good stop Gap he could win you more games than you won last year if you get a rookie too he’s a good guy to have as the backup if things don’t work right off the bat look what

He did for the Colts I think if we get a rookie he starts week one and then they turn it over in week four or week five I can see that happening yeah yeah I don’t know you know it’s funny two or three years ago I would have loved it

But now I’m just kind of mad on him yeah I mean don’t you think he was in a better situation in Indianapolis than he will be here oh for sure but I mean better Coach better o line probably the same weapons what do you think Pitman would you rather have

Pitman and JT or Devonte and JJ well Josh Jacobs no longer plays I’m talking about last year I’m comparing last year I’d probably rather have Devonte and well you the thing is is you have to factor in the other pieces at that point too do I want do I want the

Even just right now do I want Devonte jacobe Meyers and zamir white or do I want Michael Pitman JT and Alec Pierce there’s the Gin there’s a ginormous drop off at three for the Colts and once you go on the Raiders line even their tight

End to their four five is is n bad like mayor’s not bad I’d probably I’m worried that they have a better OC than us though I mean you think that’ll make mchu look worse it could but he might also just get more given the green light

Where he’s just airing it out and a guy like Devonte Adams could pay dividends with that yeah I’m excited about um NFL overall this year even though like I think the Raiders were probably in the same situation um but I I can’t wait and so we’ll be diving into that here on fans

Speak Network like I said I’ve been I’ve been messing with mag I’m waiting for her to come on uh and we’re going to have conversations about this and then I need to start drafting with her because I know that drafting with her helped me a lot last

Season um so I’m going to continue to do that I’ve been kneed deep in NBA she’s been NFL only so she’s going to be really prepared to help us through those drafts so uh you have that coming up here on fanse um for those of you guys

Who are big fans of Tyler and I we’re guys to do the NBA rundown on the nuke the house channel so you should be subscribed to both of those thank you everybody for joining us we will see you next Tuesday on this channel doing another NBA best ball playoff draft

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