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PLAYERS preview: course record watch at Sawgrass???



Smylie begins the show with a bold prediction: we might be on course record watch at TPC Sawgrass!

SK and CH continue their PLAYERS preview with some one-and-done picks, a deep dive into Charlie’s DFS lineup, and some lines Smylie is workshopping if he and Kevin Kisner get a hole-in-one during their “Friday Happy Hour” coverage.

01:11 Smylie’s bold TPC Sawgrass course record prediction
03:18 Does SK like March or May PLAYERS better
08:06 Smylie and Charlie make one-and-done picks
15:43 Charlie builds his DFS lineup with Smylie’s help
30:19 Smylie teases his 17th hole coverage for “Friday Happy Hour” this week

All right we are Live From The Players Championship I guess I guess we’re we’re kind of live from the PLAYERS Championship uh adjacent or are you uh are you on property where you staying down there smiley yeah yeah yeah we’re over at this uh Marriott Saw

Grass uh nice and close which is nice last year it was I was staying uh like in Jack Beach which is a great area but traffic was terrible so very happy to be making a shorter commute this week I’m live from my attic as usual but uh

Little bit envious of the although we get we get some nice weather here in North Carolina golf season is man we’re so close I can taste it things things are Punch The Greens right we don’t punch till summer thankfully you yeah we’re berm you’re bent so look at us world’s colliding uh

Anyway you all are here right now because you want a preview of The Players Championship uh the the fifth major so to speak uh the best field in golf asterisk uh and we’re here to provide that for you smiley you’ve been walking around uh property all week long

Catching up with different Pros putting with Jordan spe things of that nature what what do you got for us what’s what’s the boots on the ground report from Pon aidra uh well first off can you do I should have probably looked this up right before I came on here but what is

The course record at TBC sass because I think it’s going to get broken tomorrow morning wow and why I think it’s I mean the I’ve never seen the greens the soft they are 6 Tom hogi 62 2023 yeah I think somebody I God 11 under so many under but I really do

Think that somebody can I think somebody’s gonna shoot 10 or nine under tomorrow I do I would love so much to see Scotty come out and shoot 58 making 20 foot bombs like I’m I’m going to be tiger now that would be electric oh yeah

I mean wouldn’t it I mean I think it’s like an even par round is not a good score tomorrow I think the the greens are going to be rolling perfectly we’re not expecting a ton of win tomorrow the the the fairways are soft the rough is up uh so if you’re missing missing

Fairways they’ve been getting a lot of De in the mornings like it doesn’t kind of dry out till about 10:30 so that along with some humidities definitely makes the golf ball probably not travel quite as far definitely there being a little heavier but what it’s done is

Just their the moisture in the greens from like a real heavy rain on last Saturday which they got 2 and a half inches which is a lot um that combined with just the humidity and the Dew is just not the greens have just not um quite dried out yet I mean I watched

Alex norn on number two today hit a Hybrid and spin it back it was just like what am I watching um it’s it’s very interesting now that you’re going to have back pins and guys are worried about controlling their spin uh where it’s like it used to be what’s my cover

Number to back pins so it’s uh it’s going to be a big adjustment for guys tomorrow morning and hopefully they dry out with maybe some drier weather as we go but we’re not expecting any rain in the forecast but um I’m expecting a pretty low cut where do you stand on March versus

May for the players like it seems like their opinions on both side of that in terms of course difficulty and conditions where where do you land on that I think it the golf course is going to look fantastic fantastic on television in March and I think the

Players may prefer playing it in may just for the firmness that uh it would provide the more of the jumpy Bermuda rough the fast Fairways the fast greens the warmer weather so I think that’s a you know from a playing side I would say you got to uh you hit more like irons

And 3-woods off te’s and and hybrids where now you hit a little bit more drivers more 3-woods so you know it’s to me I I’d say that I prefer it in May um I I think you can get it a little faster but I think it

Looks so good on TV in March that if you had like one of those crazy weather days with some wind it makes for some great television but for instance this week it’s just already soft here on Wednesday it’s in perfect shape it’s just not firm

So um I think you’re going to see some low scores and and not too many high scores is it did now I know you’re saying Thursday weather looks impeccable for scoring um it’s one of my favorite shots the last five years and and conditions for a tournament the last

Five years was I’m trying to remember if it was it was the 2022 players um J did JT JT won and 21 and cam Smith was 22 do I have that right and Scotty was 23 or do I have that out of order I don’t know

Yeah whatever the year was I don’t think it was the year JT won but I think it was in the second round where there was an absurd amount of win a bunch of guys were dumping balls in the water on 17 that was crazy JT hit like a 210 yard

Fivewood on 18 it was one of the sickest shots I’ve ever seen in my entire life I was like this guy like I don’t care if he wins or loses that’s the only thing I’m going to remember from this tournament so I’m curious is it does the

Rest of the week get tougher into the weekend or are we looking at like a historically low number for this tournament well you know we’re getting some good weather where we’re not quite getting maybe some chances some Thunder storms on the weekend but 85 degrees on

Friday so we’re it’s going to warm up um you know you still got to execute out there I know I’m making it sound like all these guys are going to go super low but I mean they’re really good at what they do so I just think with soft greens

And perfect greens um the re we’ve seen the recipe anywhere it doesn’t matter what you do on as unless the rough was really really thick which I think last week the rough was longer and more of a problem than this week now the uh playing from the rough with soft

Greens it’s not quite as dicey on a Thursday and Friday as it used to be so uh you might be able to get away with a driver or two which which is uh not something that you’re typically have out here at the players do you do you see any late early

Early late Advantage given the way statistic uh if you seen this stat about like who’s um Let me let me find it real quick you’re going to like this okay um it just basically talked about um Champion starting times on Thursday and Friday and the players since 2007

They’ve only had two two players win the players in the late early wave everybody else has been the early late wave which I think bodess well again this week is it because I’m trying to think tomorrow is it uh who who goes off Rory Vic and Jordan go off early tomorrow

They’re 8:35 I’m trying to remember feature group coverage and then well so Scotty’s late early right yeah so that’s interesting but so you’re saying early lates want to pay attention can can anybody tell that this week this is just historic data so I mean is there something to

That I don’t know um I pref uh as a player I liked the late early you know if you’re playing well because it’s just like all right we’re just right back into a rhythm uh but yeah something to be said for that I guess I don’t know

Good let’s go look at your waves people make sure you’re uh riding the right horses this week uh I think that’s that’s a a solid segue unless there’s other things you want to uh cover course related we can do that after as well player related but just looking at

Players we like this week because of course we have to make our our one andone picks we have to recap the people on how we shook out last week and choose some names this week but then also thinking of you know I’m I’m uh I’ve got some DFS lineups I’m trying to put

Together here you know maybe you want to want to sprinkle here and there and I’m trying to tap into your brain Smiley and get some Intel for some good plays this week so uh do you want to get right into the one andone yeah let’s do one and

Done first and I can’t remember is it me or you this week let’s see it is you this week because I picked uh I picked Jake knap first and Xander first so this last week you took Rory 87.5 FedEx Cup points I took Xander I got 65 I I forget

Exact finishing position but I think I want to say Rory was like t21 and Xander was like in the mid t20s like seven maybe something like that sounds right okay uh that having been said you’re still just slightly less than 400 points behind me so thank you not great nap all

So this is always such a weird leaderboard and my my pick I think is going to be a weird pick because I think you just kind of always see the most random stuff for this event um God actually I say that I’m like how do you not pick Scotty

Sher you know what I mean like how do you not pick Scotty after uh the prior week um God wait I’m between like Five Guys right now and I’m going to can I give you can I give you a little bit of extra prep here this this might help you

Right so I’m looking at our at our snake draft system and so I was really hoping you mentioned Scotty shelford I was really hoping I was going to have the first pick at the Masters you have the first pick at the Masters so if that informs you might use him

There okay I know who I’m taking and I’ll I’ll let you first off figure out who it is I’ll let you almost play The Guessing Game I’m I’m picking a player that has he’s not the best driver of the golf ball but he’s he’s been better this year he’s he’s a great

Putter a good iron player very good around the greens makes a of birdies and he’s young not a good driver of a ball good putter he’s getting better driving the ball good around the greens and it’s not an obvious choice he’s getting better driving the ball MH

But he’s young like how young is young young man this is this is a tough one okay C because the broad Strokes you’re painting I wanted to say Jordan but I feel like this is not Jordan no like this is go for it let me get one

More let me get one more guess here me I want I mean I’m now I’m in on the game is it could it be but Sam Burns is a good driver the ball all right I’m done guessing what who who do you got for me I’m I’m gonna take

Sahawa oh interesting okay I think the softness of the golf course is going to be nice for a player like him that is it’s it’s going to stay in a little tighter if he has a bad day driving early in the week um and to me

Personally I I feel like he’s a player that is Gonna Get In Contention in one of these big weeks and he’s been very close to doing it coming off a top 10 Bay Hill where he drove it great um he’s like up in to like top 40 and with the

Driver this year percentage wise so it’s like maybe you’re catching a guy that has a really good driving the best driving week of his career and then he does all the other stuff well it’s like okay he’s got he likes playing shots um he’s had a great year thus far why not

Sah the gawa I I love it I mean I’m a huge sah fan I mean this is one of the guys who at the beginning of the year we talked about like he could really pop this year he could he won he finally won in the

Fall last fall the foret and like maybe he gets a a big win underneath this belt this year so I think it’s a great had a chance to the centry too you know had a chance to that’s right lost by his shots Chris Kirk um good to Bill he’s had a

Good start yeah I mean I I I think it’s and it’s I think I’ve heard a lot of people say it this week and it’s interesting is like this course doesn’t really favor any certain type of player it might have been Justin Thomas who was saying it today in his press conference

Where a lot of different you know games and profiles could fit this course uh in a lot of different ways so I’m I’m looking at who I want to use here and it’s a you know huge purse this week and it’s a ton of FedEx cut points I’m

Looking at like you know the rest of the majors and think I’ll be able to choose some big live names there as well so I want to go with the PJ tour guy this week um you know what like if I know the here’s the tough part it’s like

The bet I’m trying to make here is if you take Scotty at the Masters where else would I use Scotty this year that’s as high leverage as the Masters and I’m between Scotty really and JT because I think JT is going to play great this week but I’m going to go

Scotty here because you are going to take Scotty shler the master so I’m I’m going to go ahead and get this one out the way let me ask you this so whenever we pick these guys like they’re gone like it is that right like so if you

Pick them I it’s not like I can pick them type of thing no no no no you can it’s just each of us can only use okay all right so yeah so Scotty’s off the table for me but so that’s why I Scot Master we we’re not allowed to pick the

Same guy the same week is what you’re saying exactly okay yes within a week that’s why we do can’t make the same rub to speed that’s a little bit of a wrinkle that’s like a that’s like a local rule addition we made tech for most one and Dons you could take both

Them the same week but um but I like that we have that rule all right so soit and and Scotty for this week that’s a good little a good crew there um it’s going to be absolutely hysterical if you burn Scotty and he like misses the cut that would be so

Funny Scot wins by far Scotty’s gonna he’s he’s going to carry the PGA Tour to the promised land and he misses the cut the week Charlie picks him in one and done Scotty’s going to win four straight starts like just book it Scotty’s gonna win he’s when this is all said and done

He’s going to win out from here through the Masters and little Houston open on there I teas off at 213 oh my gosh that just looks ugly that just just like that’s just doesn’t Al with our I was hoping to see like 7:49 tomorrow morning is what I was hoping to

Read well let’s let’s look at that let’s go ahead and just spin through that that morning the late early wave I mean so we’re looking for early wave guys right so right now San burn Xander chafl Tommy Fleetwood Victor hin Rory M Jordan Speed all those got ludig

Over do you like ludig here I love ludvig love him really yes like him a lot cuz he hasn’t really I don’t want to say he’s had a bad year but he has just been a little bit quiet in some of these first opport playing big events to be

Fair I think he almost had a chance to win the signature event at Pebble if it weren’t for wendam that’s right going nuts you know like he could have love to see that on he could have easily been a 54 hole champion at at Pebble Beach this year you know with finishing second

Place uh played with uh played with Rory one of those days and from what I understand he he he looked as good or better than Rory um out there at Pebble so uh talked to him a little bit this week his game uh looks good that it

Seems like they’re they’re in a really good place that team so lud’s a guy that honestly I probably should have picked but whatever use them later the picks are binding now they cannot be changed as teased earlier I got to put together a DFS lineup and I’d love to just pick

Your brain a little bit uh so I I just shot over well if we just run through it in terms of of price categories um just want to throw some ideas at you and so I mean starting at the top of the board your let’s see your top your four

Most expensive players are Scotty Sheffer Rory mroy Xander chaet Justin Thomas um Scot Scotty’s 12,800 Rory’s 11,600 uh Xander 11,300 and then everything else is underneath $10,000 you got right Xander’s third yeah wow that surprise you a little bit yeah really surprising here’s what I’m thinking it’s

Like I kind of some weeks I try to kind of balance my lineup but I’m kind of feeling like I want to go topheavy here like I feel like you if you don’t put Scotty in your in your lineup you’re gonna get burned like I just think it’s

A bad idea to not put Scotty in your l so can we just plug Scotty in right up the top are you okay with that yeah yeah I can I can help fill the gaps in a little bit here for you so then let’s go

Here like if we go what if we go JT I mean it’s can we work our way from can we work our way like from from the bottom um so you want to go bottom bottom so let’s go the bottom is how far down let me

Just give you some names that I like great love it I like a player like Corey Connor this week okay I think Corey $8,300 let’s plug him in yeah plug plug Cory in I just think that a player like Corey just always finds the middle of the fairways finds the greens and catch

A good hot putting week and he’s right there um and I think it’s just an important week to drive the golf ball well and having a guy like Cory Connors it’s like all right you got a guy that’s making the cut you know right like done deal

You’re you’re gonna and I think and that’s big too like ju a made cut in this in this format gets you just no matter how good or bad they play on the weekend you’re going to collect points and not like lose in whatever League you’ve entered I know um who are some

Players that you kind of like uh as we kind of look into all this so as I was kind of putting rough lineup together because I went topheavy with like Scotty and and and JT um I kind of went down on the lower side of things and I’m trying

To see how far I I picked um Ricky Fowler had a really nice price on him 7,300 or 73 thou yeah $7,300 golly I’m so bad at math but pass champ um and and a guy that you know I feel like is like I I I feel good about Ricky making the

Cut and like I know he hasn’t maybe been playing his best golf for or the go you know where he was last summer when he won the rocket mortgage and maybe felt better about his game then but for a guy that’s priced I mean let me let me I’ll

Say it this way here are the guys that are around Ricky Bor Christian bazay now amono Eric Van royan and Alex noren all great players van royan you like you like Eric this week yeah I do I like Nick Taylor too okay but can we have two Canadians

On team is that against your like do you have like a rule against only one I don’t have a nationality based rule in fact when I did this game uh for the Canadian open last year I made a lot of money because I only picked Canadians just to well Nick Cory Connor

Taylor pendri Adam spinson the whole gang mck the whole place is green man it’s it reminds me of Phoenix it reminds me of Augusta and Nick Taylor played really well in Phoenix this year uh to me it’s I like the fact that he’s won already this year Nick Taylor is a

Player I probably like him more than Corey Connors honestly um so here here let let me just kind of show you what we’re working with thus far because we have we have Corey Connor Scotty Sheffer Nick Taylor and Eric vanroy unless we want to dump one of these guys so

Basically we have an average of $7,300 to spend right now so we could go super high or super low or we could pick two players right around Ricky Fowler could we take a ludvig where would he go let’s take a ludvig so he’s $9,300 so leaves us that that’s that’s more expensive

Than like it like it basically the the the rest of the money we have allowed to spend is $5,400 Scotty or two more guys that’s one more guys so we’re like talking about like Matt coocher Gary Woodland Martin lard like Lee Hodes Michael Kim that sort of

That sort of Lane so we could either drop we could drop like a a higher price player let’s drop a Canadian let’s pick one Canadian let’s Dro Cory Connors unless unless unless you want to drop ni more affordable Nick Taylor’s more affordable I let’s drop Corey just so we

Can have a little more flexibility okay because Cory has made all of his Cuts this year but Nick Taylor has two top 10 so okay like a mannequin Trend we have like what what if we took Russell Henley in there oh I love that just scroll past his name he’s actually he’s priced

Pretty high because he’s his form has been so good $8,600 okay so yeah I mean we can do it but it just means we’re going to spend like 5,200 on our last player which isn’t the end of the world but uh what do you let

Me let me throw one at you what do you feel how do you feel about minwoo Lee having played in the final group last year do you like minwoo this week or or or not not right now I I like him more this week than I did last week and okay

I I like that he plays the ball down on the ground um well how expensive is he he’s 8,000 he’s 8,000 he Sav 600 on Henley yeah so who would you who would you be picking between with him like would you be taking Russell out and picking minwoo is

That kind of what you’re saying right right you probably take either Russell or minwoo okay um I think I would probably lean Russell but I just think his iron game is just just so legit that I tell you I’ll tell you what we should do let’s let’s take

Russell I think we should take Scotty out I think we take Scotty out because you started this whole thing saying it’d be stupid for us not to take Scotty and now we have to completely change our philosophy because you’re like nah we ain’t taking Scotty well Scotty’s like the free Bingo space you

Know it’s almost like we need to free up more money so we can talk about some guys people are probably considering at certain levels because I’ll say it this way here here are your options if if you have the amount of money left that we do right now mty Schmid Dylan woo Robbie

Shelton Carl Yuan Joel Damon Grayson Murray Davis Riley Franchesco mulinari I mean you know you tell me if someone’s ringing a bell for you we can do it Hayden Buckley he made Ace last year so maybe just maybe ride ride the way um I mean if you want to I the thing

Is it’s like we got to start over if if if you don’t take Scotty so yeah because then now you got to like find two horses at the top that you want to take which then gets a little little confusing let me let me run you through let me run you

Through our team right now and our prices and then we can see who we want to fill this thing out or if we want to kind of make some roster moves right Scotty’s top of the board 128 all right ludvig is 93 then you got Russell

86 and then you’ve got Eric Van royan 73 and Nick Taylor 69 so that’s kind of your spread so well if it was me it is I’d probably plug in JT it is me yeah yeah it l literally is me so I mean I I would be plugging in JT here and then

That gets a $7,300 and that gets us right where I can take Ricky So then all of a sudden our our lineup but but there’s also there are some other options in there there’s like Jake knp is is in that range too I feel like Jake

I mean he he made a 12 last week and that really making a 12 doesn’t help but do you think last week was more of just playing at a really really tough signature event for the first time or like he’s just exhausted playing so many weeks in a row

It’s it’s just new golf courses and new challenges I think he’ll have a good week but there uh what are some of the other options outside of Jake uh some other ones at that 7,300 level Nikolai hoard uh Stephen yger who played great at the beginning of the year Alex noren

You were just talking about watching him play a little bit um cam Davis um Denny McCarthy right now I like entirely too many people what about Matthew Bavon do you like do you like him I mean he’s just been so steady all year long yeah totally first time though players just

Tough hard to say hard to say Charlie um give me like a either or these are two like I I I can make cases for all these guys so give me like a a two that you’re between and I’ll I’ll help you if you’re between a jake knap and a

Ricky Fowler which way are you going Ricky yeah I would take Ricky there champ yeah yeah I think so yeah I mean look I think this is a solid lineup I think I think want to blow do you hate it you don’t you don’t like it do you read it

Out it’s it’s JT ludvig uh it’s uh Russell Henley Ricky Fowler Eric Van royan and Nick Taylor I just I think the pro I’m picturing the leaderboard and I see a scenario in which they’re all in the top six you think all these guys are top six

No I just I like that that’s I do I do like Nick Taylor and Eric vanroy and I think there’s something to be said about guys that are in form those are two players that that are in form uh in my opinion and and there’s just no history I I mean I

Think yeah that we’ve seen guys you know win here but also that it’s not a you got to show up and be able to hit the shots so I I kind of like the guys that are that have been proving it this year

So maybe uh do do you care to look at a sah the gala okay let try let’s try it the gala I’m wondering who we’re going to need to pull for it would be hilarious if we didn’t put one of our one and duns in and they win in the in your

Lineup let I’m I’m going to pull I’m going to pull ludvig just for the sake of yeah P we’re we’re trying to figure out where he’s cut the gala’s 87 okay that’s actually interesting so now we have $600 extra dollars to spend so we have JT the gala Russell Henley

I’m starting to like this lineup Ricky Fowler Nick Taylor Eric Van royan what I think we should do is should pull one of uh Ricky EVR yeah and Nick Taylor and upgrade at one of those so what who who would you pull if it’s you um I would

Say the who’s in the best form of those or who’s in the worst form would be Rick of the three yeah but you you kind of like Rick so that’s kind of your your play this week oh wow how about this though that just made Tom hogi available

Who we just discussed shot 62 here the course record take Tom hog yeah hog or JT Poston huh hogi or JT Poston uh I like them both but I would wean hogi had a good week at Bay Hill so you got guys you got hogi Nick Taylor Eric Van

Russell Henley all in good form and then you got some guys that can go like some Killers you got JT and uh and Si I really hope strong lineup you know what going to happen you’re going to be so close to like winning it all in my

One and done pick so hit’s going to miss the cut what’s going to happen and aerg finishes is in a playoff with one of these guys or something like that so maybe that’s where we went wrong but I I like your lineup I like it yeah so read

It one more time okay so one more time so this is oh great hold on now I just uh now I just made it go away here we go okay here we go we’re we got it back up so oh no all right hold on we’re gonna have to do

It all over again this is so bad all right so it’s that’s when you know it’s when it’s when it’s when DraftKings takes it down because they’re they’re a little concerned that you that you know the results type of thing you know what I mean they they must our lineup’s too flaming

Hot I I think it’s it’s really as we continue to draft it really all came together here we go okay I got it back now I got it back now all right we have JT 10,600 we have sahit theala 8,700 we have Russell Henley 8,600 Tom hogi 7,800 Eric Van royan

7,300 Nick Taylor 6,900 I fell in love with that lineup yeah best of luck we molded it we molded it like clay I I’m saving this we’re go we’re going in all right here we go contest entry updated that’s going to pay some bills that’s going to pay some real bills uh

Do you have any other any other like plays you like this week any other like you know guys that are just like Stone Cold like they’re going to absolutely be this this week is there like prop bets for like the cut line CU I would say the cut

Line’s going to be low I think it’ll be shoot in the past it’s been o it could be over par here and I don’t know what it’s been the last couple years but I’m curious if that’s like a prop cuz I would I would take the uh

The under on that you know what I’m seeing now is I I see certain player odds for players to make or miss the cut but I’m not seeing like a what’s the cut line going to be I’m seeing uh uh let’s see some winning margin bets uh uh to be

In final group I’m I’m still kind of getting this whole I’ll tell you what let me throw a few at you the hole in one on ho 17 no- 360 yes plus 250 yes Hammer yes we’re going to see one there was three last year you know I’m be

There Friday we better have a hole in one I’m going to lose my mind oh man so have have you sketched out Friday any further with kids anything you want to tease no but I need to start thinking of a Hoin one line if when that goes in for

Me on Friday afternoon can we start let’s get some comments uh on what what my Friday afternoon line needs to be if uh some makes a whole in one we have Roger Maltby and Gary cook back this week so I’d like to suggest can we do like some sort of variation of better

Than most like is there a smiley a smiley fied version of better than most that we can land on something to think about we don’t have to come with an answer now that’s what all you good people listening are for I’m sure you’ll tweet Smiley you know comment on his Instagram reals

Whatever just give him some suggestions you know here’s my idea it’s like we’re we’re kind of on happy hour and it is an island maybe it’s we’re on island time now something like that is that it we’re on island time now that could be the maybe that’s It I like that that’s a that’s a great start we’ll find out together Friday happy hour you Kevin kizner uh same same time frame for people like the 4 to 6:00 p.m. window something like last week yeah something like that any guess you want to tease yet or still still waiting

On working on it working on it can’t tease it no teases that’s right well you have to tune in to find out uh well that’s what we got for you all uh little little Saw Grass preview and appreciate you all watching and listening and we

Will be back here with the recap of the tournament uh soon I’ve actually watched a couple of episodes of of of y’all earlier and uh you guys have some good takes so thanks for uh thanks for what you guys do it’s cool to see what you guys are doing and

Uh I I know golf fans appreciate it but we we do too so please keep it up I think you’re doing a tremendous job and and you know I listen to this podcast is really cool and

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