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FOX Sports football analyst Brock Huard joins Colin Cowherd to discuss his QB landing spot predictions and explains why JJ McCarthy could be a Top 10 pick. He also breaks down Caleb Williams’ ceiling amidst Ryan Leaf’s warning about drafting the USC QB, along with how Michael Penix will pan out in the NFL. He then explains why Russell Wilson did not work out in Denver.

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Why JJ McCarthy will be a Top 10 pick, Russ-Broncos did not work, Caleb Williams’ ceiling | THE HERD

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So I mean you just saw that and I and I said I do believe this league is situational there’s an occasional Andrew Luck but nine out of 10 quarterbacks you get a bad coach a bad coordinator and a terrible low line you’re you’re in big trouble did any of those make sense to

You no I think a lot of them made sense I think the gosh you could really debate this Colin and say which is the most intriguing which of all of those is like the single most intriguing Prospect and I think between now and the NFL draft

It’s going to be JJ McCarthy yeah I know my buddy Joel clatt sits next to you he’s enamored with him I chatt with Chris Peterson on my radio show this morning up in Seattle he’s enamored with him I know that I’m enamored with him I

Know that when I was in studio in your palacial studio there Colin and I was with Bo Garrett my producer I know that when we had Michigan Nebraska this year and we sat in a production meeting with JJ McCarthy and he left the room and Bo

Looked at me and benetti looked at me and Allison looked at me and Darren the director looked at me and went wow that dude is just how do you not just love that guy and want to play for that guy and with that guy I mean he was magnetic

I watched the combine and you know I didn’t just watch these guys throw and we can get into that Colin I try to watch for like the interaction much as those GMS and those Scouts and the coaches that are sitting there in the stands that’s what they’re watching too

They got their stop watches but they’re watching how does this guy interact and I told the story on my show this week that man he reminded me in 1999 a Donovan mam I went to the combine it was a year very similar to this year’s draft

There was Dante c pepper there was K mcnown there was a key smith there was donov McNab there was Tim Couch there was Sea King I end up I think being the seventh one drafted in the third round I remember being at that combine and watching Donovan with the guys and the

Guy he was just the magnet they want to be around him yeah I mean he didn’t throw like the most beautiful and he wasn’t the most natural passer but he was a winner dudes loved him they they gravitated toward WS him I watched JJ stay on the field cheering guys on and

Then all of a sudden well Caleb was seeing that so now I got to go do that I guess if JJ’s doing that I better go out here and watch these guys and support them yeah J.J McCarthy is going to be the most intriguing and I don’t think

There’s any shot in the world he ends up where you know where you had him I I think he’s going to go higher than that oh wow well it’s it’s fascinating you get more more informational have different opinions you know like I’m getting more and more stuff I will say

This two people uh had reported last week that he was unbelievable at the combine on the Whiteboard which by the way I was told Baker Mayfield blew people away darnold wasn’t great at the white board Baker blew him away that’s why he went number one so that stuff

Matters so the Caleb Williams criticism from Ryan Leaf um I you know I initially like this kid’s going to work but Ryan said something Matt Miller a scout has said something Lance zerline has said the kid leans into the spectacular and that’s not the NFL it doesn’t work so is

That a concern in your opinion yeah it is I I would say it was not a concern his Heisman year but this year there were some concerns Colin you’re down there in LA you talked to a lot of people you’ve been around that program and I think this year there was

Just more noise I love to and I quote you all the time all right I don’t just steal your stuff I quote you and you love to use that you love to use that word and it’s a great one there’s just a lot of noise there was a lot of noise

Around the Seahawks in like 14 and as it started to fall apart and there was just there’s kind of a lot of noise I’m just kind of watching some of the I kind of add drama to it too and I think to Leaf’s point and guys that have been

There and done it you can never get bored with or never get tired with the boring you just can’t get tired with it I watched Pon Manning for two years when I was around him sit in the front row of our meeting still take notes even though

He knew those plays but he knew it’s just the yeah it’s this kind of work it’s just putting it in it’s Tom it’s all the greats that’s that’s what they do they just don’t get tired of of the of the boring and yeah you watched Caleb

Last year and Colin there were a lot of times I’m like just hand the ball off I did a game of hiss against Utah and I’m like hand the ball hand the ball it’s RPO hand the ball off you’re running for five yards a carry they’re daring you to

Do it and yet you’re pulling it and throwing Bubbles and throwing screens and scrambling around and getting sacked and getting hit like now is some of that the expectations is the weight of the world on him last year can he repeat as a Heisman was it all about him sure it

Was and the NFL will neuter some of that it will humble him there’s no question about that but playing on time playing on Rhythm being okay with boredom all of those things will be steps he will be the first pick he will go his talent is incredible but he’s going to have to

Grow there’s no question in that way all right I want to go to Michael penck you’re a proud husky I saw him Play Alive my takeaway is he’s a bigger Tua he’s a pocket guy little stronger than Tua better deep ball also had great receivers and a terrific coach and a

Good OC so he had some things that work for him their talent was overwhelmingly on the offensive side of the ball but that’s not his fault um I you know Jay Mack and I have talked about this listen I don’t care like I I if Daniel Jones

Can go six I’m not outraged by this guy going mid first round I think Washington ran a pro offense and he got a team without much NFL Talent on defense to the playoff I wouldn’t have a problem Seahawks taking mid first round what say you well the Seahawks have the Great

Advantage more Advantage than anybody else in the league in this draft because two of these six guys if they want a quarterback if they’re going to go that route as they’ve cleaned house they’ve cleaned house on the coaching staff yesterday they cut three guys are starting to clean house on the roster

They’ve got an advantage that nobody else has Ryan grub and Scott Huff the OC and o line coach were with this guy building this thing for the last two years uh on the other side Mike McDonald was with JJ McCarthy for a season at Michigan that that year they finally

Beat Ohio state so they have guys that don’t have to you know trust scouts or head coaches or gms’s opinions they were embedded with those guys so they will know them better than anybody else and I think those are the two that they would Target in my opinion because of some of

That background the scare for me Colin and this showed up in the championship game is penx was so good at protecting himself I don’t care about the past history I I really don’t he showed that over the last two years he could protect himself he was sacked fewest times over

The last two years than any college quarterback he gets ball out of his hands but in the NFL you get hit and you get hit hard Jake Browning shared this anecdote with Chris Peterson it was great after the season ended remember Jake got to play this year and played

Great at times for the Bengals first time as a starter and he told Coach Peterson he said Chris it’s a lot different on a Monday the soreness on a Monday was a lot different than the soreness in college on a Sunday right because these are grown men and they

Beat you up and you feel it and that championship game to me was a little scary calling cuz he took a beating I’m not going to say every Sunday would be 51 passes and getting hit like he did against Michigan but you remember he was

In the tent at the end of the game and I’m sitting there screaming I’m like get out of that tent get out of that tent go on the field you have got to for the for the evaluators and the scouts get and and good for him man had the gumption

And the guts to get out of that tent go play that final series take more hits but that’s the question not even his past projecting that frame forward can he take the beating that you are going to take in the NFL finally uh didn’t work for Russell Wilson you as somebody

Who does a show Seattle you know the Seahawks Russ well um now you’re in Denver where again so you’ve gotten you’ve kind of moved like Russell from the Northwest the mile high city is you know everybody banged on Shawn pyton but my takeaway was in a way I could argue

He saved Russ The Narrative after hacket was washed little cringey with teammates Seahawks were blasting him and super expensive I think the narrative now is God you could get him for a couple million bucks he was pretty good last year he had the same number of touchdowns as Lamar Jackson the MVP I

Think Payton and I don’t think pton saw him as the future but he kind of saved the narrative it was a mess was it not I mean to a degree but the way that he just took him apart on that sideline on that whatever day it was or Sunday

Night I mean that that you just you don’t see that a lot with someone that could be a future Hall of Famer just undressing him in Detroit and everything else and from that moment like this is this is done this is just not going to work and I think behind the scenes even

From the very very beginning and certainly there was a lot of scuttlebutt at Fox as he was there that year and talking to Terry and talking to everybody that just from a system standpoint on time on Rhythm everything that you said earlier about B Knicks and

Maybe being a fit for Shawn pton that is not Russell Wilson but if you’re Russell Wilson and you really want to save your career save your legacy save your Hall of Fame bust I think you got to do all you can to get yourself to Pittsburgh

And God bless Pittsburgh I hope I don’t follow him from Seattle to Denver to Pittsburgh he can go do that on his own as you said on a minimum salary unbelievable defense heavy Run game Heavy play pass Arthur Smith did it with tanah Hill and got to an AFC

Championship game with with that skill set and russle with all of that background I think Russ and his people and it’s always his people and Russ they’re a team together with it I think they’ve got to do all they can to get to the Steel City because that’s the place

If you want to talk about saving a career and saving a legacy I think that would be the perfect team for him Brock hu Fox Sports so happy to have him still doing radio and crushing it up in Seattle my friend great seeing you Zas always a blast Colin see you buddy

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24 Comments

  1. Why do I need Wilson – when I have a capable QB in Mason Rudolph in Pittsburgh ? Geez, just draft another college QB. It counts to show up at the Combine circus – it's your first NFL overall competition & interview – be a competitor & display your leadership, no matter how good you are & how insignificant you think it is – Good for McCarthy & the others who showed "completely" – If personally part of the evaluation team, it would mean allot to me as evaluator – looking for leadership and shelling out allot of money.

  2. I haven't seen anything that tells me Caleb Williams is a champion. I hope the Bears pass on him.

  3. How can Colin possibly say that Sean Payton saved Russell Wilson. That's total BS, Sean Payton is half to blame for why Denver was horrible last year. All he did is dump Russ under the bus and accept no responsibility for not turning things around. He is a joke, people like Colin and the media give him a pass. If they don't make the playoffs this year people would still excuse him…BS.

  4. Holy why are people so high on jj McCarthy. He is average at best. Every year they choose to hype up a mid qb. They did this same thing with Josh Rosen etc

  5. Russ to Miami 🤔. We know Tua can’t get it done vs playoff teams. Those receivers and Russ deep pass can be something special.

  6. I really dont get what people see in JJ? That hes a nice guy? That hes a good teammate? Good athelete? None of those things matter if hes not a good qb. And What has he done to show that hes a good qb? Harbaugh barely trusted him to throw at all last year!

  7. I just can’t wrap my head around the knock on Caleb. He and Jayden Daniels had to be awesome or the losses would pile up. JJ McCarthy and Michael Penix would not even be in the conversation for a first round pick at ‘SC.

  8. McCarthy is 68-3 as a starter going back to high school. Seven years of near perfection is no lucky fluke. All the guy does is win, win, win. The only game he lost at Michigan the offense scored 45 points. He could have run up huge stats but U-M plays smashmouth, ball control offense which held him down.

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