What’s The Best Cheating Story You’ve Heard In NASCAR? | DJD Reloaded

Andrew and Carla recap all the cheating news across NASCAR this week, welcome Kip Childress, Executive Director of CARS Tour, to the Bojangles studio, and driver Bubba Pollard joins to announce his Xfinity Series opportunity at JR Motorsports.

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The following is a production of Dirty Mo media welcome to djd reloading yeah does anybody get caught cheating and not win as often as steuart house listen it’s no doubt difficult to win a cup race I’m going to regret this I do see Brett’s point so you mentioned the

Crash on the backstretch did you start It welcome to the Bojangle Studio Andrew kurlin here supervising uh producer of the Dale junr download I’m all alone this week everyone left they’re traveling they’re seeing the world um but we’ve got Carla on Zoom Carla where are you why’d you leave me I know I feel

Like I need to apologize that we left you all alone it’s going to be okay though we’re gonna be back in studio next week but yeah right now I’m in Indianapolis for the NFL combine here with Fox Charlotte of course we cover the Panthers some of the local local

Guys in Charlotte but it’s so weird right like I get so focused on NASCAR one week and then now I’m so focused on the NFL so I apologize in advance if I start talking about you know uh coaches and players instead of drivers and crew chiefs like my brain is just kind of

Firing on all cylinders right now listen it’s a weird day it’s leap day it’s February 29th I’m I’m the only one here you know it’s just one of those days I think right yeah absolutely uh but the NFL combine is kind of crazy right it’s called like the NFL Spring Break um so

It’s yeah it’s even more than just about these guys kind of running their times and all of that but we’ve we’ve got to talk about all the cheating that’s happened NASCAR lately I mean this is the topic of conversation this week right absolutely it is and I want to ask

You like you cover all these different sports right and we’ve got some cheating news that uh this again this is the the great part about this Thursday show is we’re gonna hit the news topics that have since broken uh from the Tuesday show and a lot of penalties that came

Out this week I want to know you’ve covered a lot of sports is this sport the hardest one to keep track of I don’t know if it’s the hardest one to keep track of like if you’re not familiar with the sport then then maybe still that way if you’re immersed into

It though like you’re you kind of know the schedule right you know when the penalties are coming down when that late news is going to break during the week um but as far as cheating is concerned I feel like it’s the only sport where we like applaud when cheating happens right

Or we like fascinated by the decisions that went into it I think you know back to the college football season he had Michigan sign stealing and everybody was like oh man that’s terrible of Michigan uh John Harbaugh all of that you think about deflate gate you think about the

Astros banging on the trash cans and all of those things and you’re like man I can’t stand that team because they’re such cheaters but in nasar we like that’s awesome I wish they could do more of it it’s such a yeah kind of a conundra from there does this make me

Maybe this is the Nascar fan in me but you mentioned some of those you know cheating stories and other sports and Scandals that happened I look at that I’m like good for them smart you know is that wrong for me to think that well I mean I guess when they get you know

Championships and all that taken away from them maybe it seems like the arbitrary line has been crossed a little bit like I honestly like when that stuff with the Astros happen I’m a I’m a Braves fan um I’m like they will forever be the cheaters for me I don’t know if I

Will ever get over the fact that they went to like those links for a baseball game but again I I’m fascinated by by NASCAR and just the creativity that these guys kind of go through and I think it’s it’s more so because like we don’t understand it right like I can

Understand the the trash can banging and maybe deflating the ball so you get a bigger Advantage but these cars I mean like the minds behind that is just so so different and and I just um yeah love talking about it and I think other like

Race fans love this too it kind of blew up all week talking about you know Joey’s gloves you talking about shr all those things the penalties fans love talking about this well we asked the fans what their favorite cheating story is I’m just going to tease it all right

So as you watch this I want you to think of what your favorite NASCAR cheating or I guess we’ll use the word Innovation right we’ll be nice about it uh story that it is and we’re going to share that at the end of the show we use that don’t

Hold me to it but you mentioned the Stewart hos racing I want to start there uh this week it was announced two L1 level penalties for improper roof and air deflectors for the number 10 and number 41 car this was a big topic especially on DBC they talked about it

This week let’s hear what they had to say does anybody get caught cheating and not win as often as Stewart h house like that sounds have been caught like I a couple times a year it seems like since we went to this new car well and like

What was it roof rails this week they like two cars got caught yeah like I get like Hendrick got hammered last year or two years ago for them louvers but they were hauling ass when they did it like this is the third or fourth time steuart

Hos has got a penalty and they haven’t been that good in two years oh poor steuart hos racing they’re trying right you got to at least admire the efforts yeah I you definitely do it’s almost funnier the second time that I heard Freddy say that I listened to DBC

Earlier this week and literally laughed out loud when he said that because yeah you’re talking about cheating getting the advantage like let’s at least win some races let’s be up front let’s be a contender in these races now they’ve got docked 35 points and you’re like wow

They might not ever see just the middle of the field as far as the point standings go you’ve got all four drivers I think the highest ranking one is maybe like 22nd and they’re all below that so you’re like you kind of feel bad for him

But you’re like guys we gotta we got to reassess like you know risk versus reward when it comes to cheating like how are we really making a big enough difference here it’s all the risk and none of the reward right now TJ goes yeah well what what TJ expanded on that

I want to know what TJ maybe we got to ask him next week hey what did you actually think of this um but so you you talked to all the drivers preseason right steuart hos racing they didn’t they didn’t have a great season last year we’re losing Kevin Harvick now

These penalties are are lay it on them like what’s the what were the spirits among these steuart h house racing drivers yeah I talked to all four of these guys within the day and it was kind of interesting to hear kind of them repeat not repeat but like you know they

Had the same story like we’ve all talked to the off season um and then certainly after I talked to them hearing you know Tony Stewart’s comments about hey we need to win races or we’re going to start making changes I think there’s definitely that pressure there they had

This big Rebrand right you want to set like kind of a different identity for this team but you’ve also got to have the results to really back that up and that’s what we haven’t seen yet so I think Spirits are high they always are I think for teams at the beginning of the

Season when you haven’t even really raced many races uh so that makes sense but I think there’s definitely pressure there and these are all really young guys right Stuart hos has had some of the the veterans in the sport and now that’s not the case and you just kind of

Wonder what the emotional tie is to some of these drivers Ryan priest think feels you know he has a good relationship with Tony Stewart Tony Stewart has always been high on priest but even he feels like I’ve got to win like I’ve got a win this year I mean that’s it’s like whenn

And in like you have you have to do that to prove that you belong with this team but again you just wonder what are the resources like for shr right now do they have enough to help these guys get into Victory Lane I mean it’s early in the

Season right we can’t make any speculations about that they could certainly do that um as we get further into the season but it’s definitely questions that that you have when you look at that team I I don’t know about you but I would be I would be fascinated

To sit in on one of these competition meetings as they’re discussing the ideas like hey what if we did this and that and that leads actually to the big cheating story of the week Joey Lano and the gloves the webbed gloves everyone’s been talking about it uh and Denny

Hamlin this week on actions detrimental explained exactly what type of Advantage Joey Lano was getting let’s like listen because this is likely considered an aerodynamic device so you know what’s the difference in that and me putting something in my pocket and grabbing it and then holding it out there you know

What I mean to to deflect air again I think with the steuart hos racing uh penalties that came out Carla I admire the efforts and we were talking about it on the download with this nextg car the Box to to work in is so much smaller so it’s

Like people are looking at different places to see if they could find an advantage what was your reaction when you saw the gloves I mean I thought excuse me I thought he was about to go take the cookies out of the oven after he got out the car right I mean it just

Seemed like maybe they should have just had an oven mitt with him driving uh it was as it was that awkward right to see that from the end camera car you’re like what is this like I so confusing um but then to think wow that’s I mean they’re

Looking at every you know every angle to try and get an advantage and you you know you’ve always seen drivers kind of lift their hand to to block the air in the car but this was definitely creative um and honestly I don’t think I even realized that there was a regulation on

Gloves so you know I think we’re all aware of that now um but you just wonder you wonder where the starting point for that conversation was right hey let’s add some you know some extra material to the I want to know who who actually started that that’s that’s the

Conversation that I want to have we uh we had a tweet go out Dale tweeted this on Sunday morning and he’s like wrong answers only what was Joey lagano using the gloves for and we read some of the best ones on the download someone said Joey Lano actually just has web fingers

So it was just fitting his hand that was my favorite one I think yeah man wow and I think I saw you were like SW are you a swimmer did I see this yeah okay you could put those on your hands and get even a bigger Advantage with yeah the flippers so

Right yeah so there’s like the these hand paddles that you can wear while swimming and Dale’s like you’re cheating using that I’m like this is during practice man I’m not competing and using these so that’s I think where we disagreed also you you mentioned the oven mitts I think if he actually used

Oven mits would that be SFI approved potentially maybe not yeah I don’t know but another Mater like more material for them to use I don’t and again that kind of goes back to the conversation he could have pulled anything out of his pocket or in the car hold it up like

What would they have done then it does it have to be something that a driver wears or that’s already regulated um you certainly got to think that NASCAR is going to take that into consideration in the future now listen this is such a fascinating topic it’s one of my

Favorite topics to talk about in the sport and so we got to bring this guy in I’ve been so excited to have this chance to pick his brain executive director of the cars tour Kip chis former NASCAR official for so many years is here to talk all about it let’s bring Kip

In what’s up man how are you doing good welcome to the show wow this is this is awesome this is I I’ve only been in the studio one other time uh with the door bumper clear guys a number of years ago yep I’m in the building almost every day

But but to not be in here so I I’d love coming in here just if nothing else just taking a look around at the history yeah come on in steal something from the cooler you know that’s why it’s stashed right there it’s easy access right from

The door but uh K welcome in we’re so excited to talk to you about all this uh the joy Lano gloves we were just talking about that the web gloves that’s the newest kind of innovation that we’ve seen out of the Cup Series this year what was your initial reaction when you

Saw that um so not surprised right I mean these guys drivers crew chiefs uh Engineers they’re they’re all thinking like you you guys have been talking about they’re they’re trying to find that little extra right to to try to see what they can do to to just get

That tenth of a second or or even less than that in some cases so uh you know it’s um again not surprised but at the same time too really not surprised that NASCAR was on top of that and and uh took Swift action on it is it hard to

Catch these these guys I mean like what are you looking for and I mean I guess with the Joey and the glove situation these incar cameras help in that case right but like how difficult is it to to catch these guys well it’s uh it is a

Challenge and you know I know that a number of folks have said that there was uh you know Talk Amongst the other competitors that that this may be happening and so uh you know I I I don’t know specifically if that was the case but I know that you know um drivers do

Not not just driver crew members and I think the crew members as they’re pushing the cars up Pit Road and and the drivers are getting ready they’re getting especially for qualifying it’s at a Speedway where it’s one car at a time and and so I I think there is a a

Little more of an opportunity to to see everything that goes on and and and I know that there are crew members that specifically have the duty of watching other cars that they watch them as they come through inspection uh they they watch them they they’ll make trips

Through the garage and and take a look and you know everybody’s trying to keep tabs on on everyone else and uh and that that’s that’s you know part of it’s been that way in racing for as long as I’ve been around then that’s 40 some years the most important eyes maybe are just

The ones the competitors themselves they’re everywhere right yeah they are uh I’ve talked to a handful of crew chiefs in the garage over the years and many have told me that they will have lawyers take a look at the rule book before each season try to find the

Different grade areas from a comp from from the you know from your side the official side do you guys have lawyers looking at the rule book like when you’re looking at a rule book are you almost trying to figure out where could they get the advantage type of thing

Yeah you know on on the NASCAR side of thing and that’s why you see so many officials that work for NASCAR now who have a a past in in the garage area whether whether it be an engineer or a former crew chief for former drivers

That are a part of the sport now so you know they they have a pretty good idea of of what their you know counterparts have been thinking of or what they’ve been thinking of and so I don’t know that I I know that there is a legal team

That whether it’s at the NASCAR side or or even on The Car Store side we we have someone you know take a look at things that we that we say that we do uh to make sure that that we don’t overlook something or maybe that we don’t say

Something that might back us into a corner um so so I know that happens uh I would say though that when it comes to the technical rules that um not a not a lawyer per se uh but there is enough um there’s enough history within those rulebook meetings that they are able to

Cover and and look that that rule book is is ever evolving right so it and you will read something in any of the rule books um one time and it will say something to you in one way you may read it the very next day and read it totally

Differently so it is it is a an ever evolving document I know the list has to be really long right fans love talking about this but what’s the craziest thing that you have ever seen I mean it h there has to be many but there’s got to

Be one that really stands out right yeah so so I’ll go back to um my very early days I was a truck official back in in when it was in its Inception in the you know 95 96 and I I can remember being at Louisville Motor Speedway and uh

Crawling up underneath the truck I was the under truck inspector and taking a look at various items under there and I’ll never forget I ran across a part that had holes drilled in it that shouldn’t have had holes drilled in it well the way that it was set up these

Holes were so big that anyone would have found it right so but I was brand new I was a the new guy on the Block I found this had the crew chief take it off and I took it back up into our huler Wayne Alton was our director at the time and

And he asked me said how long take you to find this oh man 20 seconds I was in and out and he said get your creeper get back over there because they wanted you to find this this was bait to find this early and quick so they could you know

Hopefully get you out from under there and not find something else wow almost like that’s crazy to me it’s crazy listen on top of you know the the penalties that we were talking about this week sometimes you got to find the rules of fighting right there would be

Certain ones that come come with that JJ ‘s crw Chief Jason Miller uh had an altercation with Kyle weatherman uh on Pit Road after the race this past weekend so how do you approach that as as now the executive director of the cars tour in terms of people getting

Into it off of the track yeah so I was I guess in the job with the cars tour just a couple of months and we had a similar situation happen at one of our races where we we had a an altercation on Pit Road that involved a lot of crew members

A big crowd of folks after a couple couple drivers got tangled up uh on the racetrack and so yeah that that’s tough and it and it’s an area where I think uh collectively as as not just cars tour not just NASCAR I think we all are wanting to work together and and I’ll

Say this specifically for us at our level of racing right so on the NASCAR side that would be all the weekly tracks and and the the regional uh racing ARCA and the modified tour so I I think that the one thing that we are all wanting to

Take a real solid stance on is that we’re not going to tolerate it you know we sat some people out um we uh we were very aggressive with some of our penalties and and the one thing that we that we did make an effort to do was stay consistent with the penalties that

It got us to that point but I said uh very clearly in the in the release that went out that this would be the last time we were going to be consistent and from this point forward if if if they can if Behavior like that continued to

Happen that we would just ramp the penalties up until we found out what that threshold was to make them not want to do it so hopefully as as we kick off our season hopefully we uh we don’t have to go down that Avenue but we’re ready

If we are yeah going back to when you were with NASCAR as an official there I mean you have great relationships with all of these crew members all of these guys and teams your friends with these guys did you ever get mad at them for like trying to pull one over you right

When they’re they’re trying to cheat and did you ever kind of get into it with them I don’t know that I would say that I got mad I we all have the understanding in the Gage and I say we all we all every one of us handles that a little

Differently right so I know that in working with crew chiefs you do develop that relationship those relationships with those guys and you know you see each other in and out of the garage area but we also have the understanding that you know as as an official we know that

The race teams are trying to do everything they can to gain every possible advantage that they can find and and sometimes that does does you know tiptoe into the gray and maybe into the black um they also understand that we have a job to do as well and so you

Know while you know In the Heat of the Moment you’re you’re probably upset you know when you do find something that you know you you they’re it’s not so you you have to separate how you feel personally about it versus professionally right so In the

Heat of the Moment you you might get hit with it you know right up front that it does upset you that hey you tried to get this over on me right um but at the same time to to you you’ve got to realize that they’re they’re just trying to to

To be just a little bit better than their neighbor and so uh you know I’ve always taken the and my dad instilled this to me when he was an official when I was growing up you know things that happen at the racetrack you know no matter how high the emotion is once you

Step away from that once you back away from that situation then it’s then it’s gone you may not forget it completely um but it’s gone it’s always in your mind right I have a quick followup to this too because just putting myself in this position if I were an official is it

Kind of like a cat and mouse game like I think of like Tom and Jerry where you’re like you actually enjoy you enjoy a little bit like trying to find this right and trying to kind of pull this out of teams is there like an adrenaline

Rush when you do find something big and you’re like gotcha I I’ll be honest me personally I I don’t I I hate it when I find something right I hate it because because of the fact that you know that coming on the back side of that are

Going to be penalties and there’s going to be consequences for that I’m okay with that I understand that that’s part of what we do um even even seeing you know hearing the the penalties from Atlanta from this week you know I I hated hearing of of you know number one

Guys you know flexing a rule and then getting caught on the back end I’m proud of our officiating family that that they were able to to catch this right uh but as officials we we would rather head this off at the past we would rather

Them know that you know it’s the risk is not or the reward is not worth the risk you know having to say that backwards but you know I would rather I would rather be on the front end of making sure that they understand where we are

And that they don’t try to tiptoe across that line and and as you trickle down to the cars tour especially at that level because you know so many of those teams are you know Grassroots teams St budgets just barely get to the racetrack so you know it it is really really tough when

When they uh cross that line and we have to impose a penalty absolutely uh we want to get to more you uh of this conversation we have our weekly Dale call we have people call in and the question this week was how would you feel if your favorite driver cheated and

Uh I guess got caught with it so let’s let’s hear what uh our fans had to say hey fire Captain Dell here Innovation sneakiness whatever you want to call it you know that’s the key to I think great racing seen it in the 70s the 80s and

90s and even well before drivers teams mechanics came up with these little tricks to make their car just a little bit quicker driving cookie cutter race cars around the track where everybody’s got the same Stamped Out car boring boring we need a little Innovation we need some guys to be creative the glove

Brilliant maybe not a Michael Jackson move but great love to see it keep on doing it keep being sneaky I think that makes it fun and makes it entertaining fire captain Dell see you later what do you think is it is it more entertaining when when this happens I

Don’t know I I think that you know of course my version of entertainment is seeing them cross three wide at the start Finish Line com to the Checker right so that’s that’s that’s the level of excitement that that I have right and and I don’t know that you that you need

To have you know the The Innovation that goes on or or the perceived Innovation Innovation that goes on I don’t know that you have to have that to have that level of racing at the end so that’s where my excitement lies you know it I I

Think it is you know to to some degree it’s it’s cool to see what they come with up with it sometimes right uh but at the same time too you know we we all have to do our jobs and make sure that we keep keep uh keep everything under

Wraps car what do you think I mean yeah I think again it just kind of goes back to our conversation of like you have to appreciate the creativity the fact that their minds went there like you understand that their minds just don’t work the way at

Least my mind works when it think when you’re thinking about ways to to get that Advantage um just some really smart people in the room and you have to kind of tip your hat at that listen this this whole discussion of creativity Innovation it’s nothing new we’ve done

This for beginning of auto racing it seems like uh this week on the Dale junr download it was so awesome to have wadell Wilson in the studio to discuss everything from his career uh to Old stories and one thing he was very very clear on is he has not cheated uh in his

Career uh we’ve got a clip from wiell the fact that bottles nitr nitrogen kind of had this little spell in the 70s that must have been fascinating I guess as a you know as a mechanic and an engine guy back then to have all that going on around you well

You know I remember that era that that was going on and I was not going to do that cuz the next thing is you know that is as blat cheating as you can get was it as easy as just hooking a bottle up and and mashing a button you know I

Never did bring it in the shop I never wanted to mess with it I afraid of having a mess with I love it and I I wouldn’t do it I never had a hold of it not it one any one time and I wouldn’t

Do it no I got accused of it but I’ve never done it okay so I I saw you laugh there when I said he he has a Firm Stance that he has not cheated do you believe that no I won I won’t say I won’t say cheated

And using that term right I will say you know wadell he was you know obviously a Hall of Famer right absolutely he he he was able to do a lot of great things in our sport because of how smart he is how smart he was and and so I don’t know

That you know I I want to if he says he didn’t cheat I’m not going to accuse him of being a cheater but I will guarantee you that there was some Innovation that was going on within his race shop within the engine shop that where he was

Building engines I you know there he he didn’t get to be when you knew especially like like he was saying back Dale was talking about in the 70s in the 60s and 70s where a lot of it was going on a lot of a lot of folks have admitted it

Was going on you know if you if you weren’t doing something you you probably weren’t keeping up yeah so where’s the line because as a Just Sports Fan in general you know I feel like you it’s easy to tell where the line is with the with football with baseball and even

Even Golf and some other sports out there where is the line in NASCAR is it any advantage or is or is it just when they take it a little bit too far like for you where is that line yeah the rule book’s supposed to be the line I mean

It’s supposed to be right so you know but you know there are folks within each shop there are folks um you know all throughout the sport that go to Great Links to find gray areas that they can work within um there are tolerances for just about every measurement that we

Have whether it’s at the cup level all the way down to the Grassroots level in The Car Store there are and and the teams if there is a tolerance you can believe that they’re working to the tolerance they’re they not they’re not working if it’s supposed to be 2 in give

Or take half an inch they’re working to two and A2 right um but the rule book is supposed to be the line the one thing that you have to you you really have to get yourself separated from is asking yourself the question is a is it a competitive competitive Advantage

Because at the end of the day it doesn’t matter if it breaks the rule then it breaks the rule and you know you have to take the subjectivity out of it I got a quick question before we go to our next clip uh you talked about that gray area

And I think what made wadell so brilliant was figuring out things that weren’t in the rule book and that he was able to just create and do and then there’s a rule being made yeah we so we talk about that at the cars tool level

Right now we we enjoy the fact that our rule book is not a thousand Pages sure but at the same time we we we we stress to our teams that in order to make sure that we don’t get to a th pages don’t try to get so creative that we

Have to create rules to uh to counter another rule don’t don’t make us have to keep adding to the rule book um and you to your point back in the 60s and 70s the rule book was extremely thin the rule book to at the cup level now is to

A point where it is not a printed book anymore or if it is it’s in a three- ring binder that’s you know super thick and and now it’s electronic so you know the the rule book has gotten to where it is because of folks trying to work

Inside the gray I want to touch on you were talking about Sometimes the best eyes in the garage are the competitors themselves and Denny Hamlin this week on actions detrimental spoke to that and we’ve got a clip let’s check a listen yeah these these teams tell on each

Other for sure those you don’t know I mean the teams they call it a self- policing sport because that’s you know we’re sitting next to each other we’re watching video of other cars I mean the Nascar Cup Series it’s full of snitches I mean all over the place they

Tattletail if they see something that someone’s doing that is illegal or skirting the rule oh they’ll tell the tower right away they’ll send that to John propes or they’ll send it to uh Elton Sawyer and be like hey look look look look at that that’s why this and

They’ll say oh well we’ll look into that how often do you get people coming up to you uh as the season gets started I’ll get a couple phone calls a week I would imagine yeah I mean it’s so it’s not so much to that it’s not so much they’re really snitching they’re they’re

Basically in a roundabout way that maybe they’re asking for permission if they can do that but they want to come at it from from the angle of hey if I ask this then I’m not going to get in trouble but I’m asking this to let you know that

It’s already going on so and that’s at our level Denny is exactly right and and so you know when you see teams as as fans make their way through the garage and and they ask ourselves the question of you know the difference between the NASCAR garages versus say you know the

Garage is at Indie Car level where they build walls and in the F1 where they have you know compartments for what they do so no one else can really see what’s going on the NASCAR garage is left open purposely you know at the cars tour we work behind our haulers most everywhere

We go and it’s open purposely um so you know you you do rely on crew members and and and drivers um to to come to you with things that they may see um yeah because you know at the end of the day with you know just a handful of

Inspectors whether no matter what level of sport you’re at uh you can’t be everywhere at one time um now I will say this too um there are teams that will come to you and get you looking in a Direction so maybe you’re not looking at something that they may be doing so you

Have to kind of you know when Denny said that Elton would make the statement that hey we’ll look into that that that’s a true statement because you have to take every story that you get you have to you know have to kind of filter through what you

Believe and investigate you you do to some degree investigate everything that you hear um but you have to also realize that someone may be trying to steer you down a path to get you away from something else yeah I was complet this really just helped open my eyes because

I feel like every time we he about self- policing you think of the younger driver on the track right and then all the drivers coming up to him like Hey this is not acceptable you know that that kind of code of conduct that drivers live by to picture the almost as like a

Playground and driver and like the kids coming up to tell the teacher on each other like that’s just what I picture when it comes to like self- policing of all of them coming to you to tell on each other did it does it ever feel that

Way does it ever feel like like you’re hurting cats almost in the sense of like trying to get them all to abide by the same Rule and also like hearing the the complaints from each team too right yeah so it it can be overwhelming at sometimes and especially as you know you

You know the statements that you hear a lot of times is they’re doing this and because of that they have they have an unfair advantage over what we’re doing and that’s just within the tech rules in the garage um you know we so we talked about the self- policing on the

Racetrack we we don’t hear about that part of it a whole lot because that generally takes care of itself yeah um right and and so but you know in the garage area you’re you’re right it’s uh sometimes it can be very overwhelming when you have them all coming at you and

Then then they’re all coming at you with different stories so you’re having to kind of weigh out you know what they’re talking about yeah absolutely Kip uh thank you so much for taking the time to come in discuss this the cars tour is an excellent show I’ve been to a handful of

Weekends uh what what can we tell everyone about what the cars tour has going on not just this weekend but this season yeah so a big season underway of course you know zMAX coming on board is our uh as our title sponsor uh sound gear coming on as our presenting sponsor

Um we uh we we finished finished uh putting all of our our Wheeling lights on our pace car the other day from.com so uh you know a lot of things have really come together here in the last couple of weeks to to get us on the road

For our first race which is uh this weekend at Southern National they’re they’re doing something really kind of cool too with it being the first part of the year they’re having a speed week of their own so our Pro late models will kick off the Speed week this Saturday at

Their place they will race throughout the week with a lot of their local divisions and then we’ll bookend it with our late model stocks to to round out the week and and man from there it’s h we’ve hit the ground running so lots of big races coming up at uh obviously we

Talked about the earlier about our show coming up at North wicksboro on Allstar Weekend for NASCAR we’ll also Crown our champion at North wicksboro in October um so that and and all the tracks that we do get to visit it’s going to be a heck of a see a lot of interest from

Some you know we I know the announcement came out about Bubba PA driving yes uh one of the JRM cars uh in the Infinity Series at Richmond uh we we we hear that he’s going to come and run with us some too along with Steven nassie and then

You you factor in the the quaal and the butter beans and and all of our our guys who have made the cars to are so great um it’s going to be one one heck of a season so many great names the action on track fantastic too Kip thanks so much

For joining us pleasure anytime well Kip childr that was fantastic right there at the end Carla he alluded to Bubba Pard making a big announcement it was announced earlier today guess what we’ve got him on the line right now Bubba thanks so much for joining us oh yeah I

Appreciate you having me on and you’ve got some exciting news so what is it yeah so uh got the call a few months ago um from everyone at re and Junior Motorsports to to give us an opportunity to go to Richmond here in a couple weeks

So we’re excited about it and just uh very thankful uh looking forward to it and hopefully we can go out there and uh and uh show everyone what we got how excited are you to to go to Richmond like what is it about this track that

That makes makes this a good fit and a good race for you to to take part in well growing up that was one of always one of my favorite RAC tracks because it was still a short track but it was still big enough um to where you could race um

When when we started talking about this deal I was a little nervous that um I was GNA get Martinsville and uh I you know Martinsville is a great racetrack don’t get me wrong but you know there’s so much that can happen there and and so much you know you’re so close you’re

Running so close together and everyone else you you your day can get d dictated off of someone getting upset we or something like that which it could happen at Richmond but uh I feel like Richmond is just um more what I’m accustomed to what I what I race uh

Throughout the short tracks and travel up and down the road racing each and every weekend so I’m excited to go to Richmond um that’s when when they said it was there it’s you know it’s it’s you know a great thing for me you know these Infinity Cars they’re heavy this is

Maybe not the the heavy type of car that you’re used to driving what kind of preparation goes into uh getting ready for Richmond yeah well it’s really going to be tough um We’ve ran some arcer races and things back years ago but it’s been quite some time and the cars just drive

So much different they are heavier uh the tire is so much different than what what I’m used to um so you know we’re going to try to get some Sim time here in the next couple weeks um we’re also going to run the arcer race at five flag

Speedway um here just the 24th the week before rich uh to get used to to the breaking and things like that so U the the places are are a little bit similar so I’m hoping to take a lot away from Five Flags uh with what I can I can learn there and

Take to Richmond so um I’m a little nervous with the pit stops and the way that thing what way it goes on with with pitting hopefully I don’t have to pit under green uh it’s just not something we’re we’re used to anymore we a lot of

Our races have went back to uh the breaks and um having a FIV minute break and things like that so uh we’ll see hopefully we can just just um you know study as much information uh with the team and the C Chiefs and and things

Like that and I talking to a lot of the drivers like Josh Noah Chase Elliott a lot of those guys have reached out and um you know been supportive in in anything they can do to help me out so I I know a lot of those guys from racing

Our short track deal with those guys so uh yeah just just gather all the emot as much information as I can and apply it to to that Saturday have you always wanted to do this like did you see this pathway for your racing career well I’ve always wanted to have the opportunity

You know growing up that’s that’s what we’ve all um you know our goal uh but you know always said and I don’t know if um it’s in God’s plans that you know whatever may happen and mine just seems like it’s taken a little longer but uh

You know I always wanted teams to want me I didn’t um I wasn’t the type of person to to go out and ask for anything I still don’t like asking for anything this to this day it’s just not the person I am and how I was raised but I

Always wanted someone to come to me and ask me to drive their race car and uh it makes you feel good makes you feel wanted it makes you feel like all the hard work you put into it is you know is deserving so um for for them to call me

Uh it really feels good um to get this opportunity um you know and and nothing May ever come from it or it may we never know but I’m gonna go out there and give 100% do the best I can have fun um and and see what it’s all about so we’ll see

I’ll tell you what the fans are sure excited uh they’re already asking if there’s going to be merch available can you answer that for them yeah so there’s merch on available already they got online we’re also going to do some dast cars of not only the re uh Chevrolet but

Also uh of my super Lake Mall as well so um it’s pretty neat to to already have all that established and ready to go so they can go online at Junior Motorsports check it out and and get their merch and be prepared for uh March 30th that

Diecast car uh is going to be awesome I saw the the preview when the announcement was made the car looks fantastic uh you mentioned like you want to go there and have fun and uh you know obviously a big opportunity maybe there could be something that comes from this

How do you balance you know the nerves the opportunity the expectations while also remembering man Racing’s supposed to be fun I’m supposed to have fun doing this how do you manage the balance of that well it is going to be tough uh it’s it’s something uh I G have to kind

Of figure it out when I get there but um it is U it’s all going to be new uh to me so I think going into it as long as I can have that mindset of just having fun and do I know I feel like I’m capable of

Of getting a job done and U I know you over the years it’s time to have fun it’s time to Zone in in and get serious and uh get down to work and get the job done so it’s going to be tough uh hopefully um you know a lot of the fans

Come out and enjoy it uh but yeah we’ll we’ll see hopefully uh hopefully I can I can have a lot of people to lean on to to help me out to to get me through this I got one more question before we let you go we this whole episode has been

Talking about you know racing creativity Innovation you know a little bit of a nicer word for cheating right um some have even said competitors are the best eyes on what the rest of the competition is doing do you have a good and like you don’t have to you know name any names or

You throw anybody under the bus but any good Innovation stories or you could too if you want um any good Innovation stories you’ve seen over the years well I’ve heard um you know back in I’ve always heard stories growing up like um the nitrous deal I’ve heard that back in

The 70s and 80s uh like from Ronnie Sanders when I was driving for him and then one thing that was big uh was Mercury that guys would move Mercury around in a race car which is super you know illegal um anything else but I mean that’s that’s that’s terrible you can’t

Get on your skin or anything so but they would move this Mercury back and forth to get left side weight and things like that but a lot of the oldtimers and stuff would do that I don’t know if it’s true or not but man um there’s so many

Rules now it seems like back in the day time I’ve been racing Lake M for 25 years now and things have changed a lot Racing’s changed people’s changed it seems like the guys nowadays are a little scarer oh to to take that I think they’re a little they’re afraid to take

That risk yeah uh as you know not like they was back then but uh Preston I don’t know how you say his name pelier he used to work at Hendrick I think he does a lot of the body stuff there uh he’s very Innovative when it comes to to

To body work and downforce and arrow uh and things like that but he brought a car to uh to Berlin up there last year man it had it was tricked all out with diff fusur underneath it and us late Mall guys don’t even know what that is

You know what I mean so we’re all looking at it and pointing and and like they said earlier I mean the racers tell on each other right firstand so I mean I try to push the issue that’s our job is to try to get an edge over everyone we

Can and just that little bit I mean we’re trying to we’re we’re we’re not trying to find tents and half a seconds now we’re trying to find hundreds of thousands and that little bit it makes every little bit adds up and and the more you can get the uh the faster

You’re going to be so we we try to get every advantage that we can i’ I’ve really not cheated but I’ve done a little bit of the Innovation myself along the way I love it I love the honesty there that’s fantastic well uh Bubba thanks so much for taking the time

We’re so excited to watch you get on the track that 88 car like I said looks fantastic uh and we can’t wait for Richmond so best of luck to you thanks for joining today yeah congrat appreciate you guys nice having me on thank you awesome that was bub aard

He’ll be driving that number 88 car in the Xfinity series Carla it’s going to be uh fantastic to watch him race but you know we we we covered the Innovation stories he had some good ones I thought yeah uh yeah absolutely we asked the fans what’s your favorite Innovation

Story from Nascar and I think we’re going to pull some of the best ones up on the screen for us to read let’s see Kim Andy Petri telling the story about the hydraulic deck liid was pretty good on that was um Everything Chad canos did poor Chad just being thrown thrown into

The whole category there just all all of it everything he did all of Chad can now’s career uh the story DW told about Led being shot and released from the frame rails at the Jack post freaking legendary yes that was a good one let me just say Daryl Waltrip’s name got thrown

In a lot on this conversation obviously right but I feel like he was one of the main main drivers that people people kind of put out there all the wal trips here’s another wal trip it’s the wal trip family uh Michael wal trip and the jet fuel the first year of Toyota yes

That was crazy I don’t know if that’s crazier than Mercury or not but it’s up there for sure uh this one’s from Nikki Smokey’s car when NASCAR was inspecting his car and said there were 16 rule infractions after a few minutes of arguing Smokey jumps in the car and he

Says make that 17 he fired it up and drove away NASCAR holding the fuel tank apparently it was a really long fuel line good for him love it from Smokey and Scott I’m pretty sure the story that has not been told yet yes I think that’s

The big one so many untold stories I think that are still left on the table Carla yeah those are the ones that you really really want to know do you have a favorite one by the way I feel like mine is going to be like anything to do with

A spoiler hydraulic spoiler like I always feel like that’s just a memorable one um but these little changes that can happen as you move the car drive the car things that they’re not going to catch right in that that pre-race inspection I always heard one of someone putting in

Like the actual frame rail of the chassis there was like oil with like a magnet or something like that and as the car burned fuel the oil would then displace towards the back of the car making the balance of the car more even as a fuel run went on freaking genius

Totally illegal they got caught with it uh that’s always one that suck out to me yeah those are just again I just don’t understand the the mindset that you have to have for that but yeah very very illegal that’s what uh Bubba said right I totally agree well what a great show

This is my favorite topic I think of NASCAR was just talking about these cheating stories yeah it definitely is and definitely a fun one I think fans will will enjoyed this one and hopefully maybe add to the conversation on on Twitter as well as they always do every

Week week and Andrew I promise I will be back in studio next week you will not be alone next week yes yes it’s quite lonely here if we cut to this yes look this is the we’ve got a bunch of empty chairs I miss seeing everybody um but

Carla thanks so much for taking time from Indianapolis and uh calling in we’ve got a bunch of Dirty Mo media shows that are already out this week the tear down with Jeff Gluck and Jordan bian uh they recapped Atlanta what a crazy finish that was it their reaction to it

Fantastic actions detrimental Denny Hamlin tells I think one of the funniest stories that I’ve heard Denny tell from that show please listen to it if you haven’t it’s it’s probably Story number one that was a pun you’ll have to do the rest you’ll figure it out uh door bumper per clear was back

They were in full swing Freddy said he tweeted it out I think that was one of the most fun races he’s ever spotted so their perspective of Atlanta is going to be uh a good one to listen to two djd shows already in the books dirty and there and a fantastic interview with

Wadell Wilson and Speed Street they recorded yesterday Connor and Chase bringing their aame it was uh fun to watch plus dirty mod do is out today they are previewing everything you need to know from Las Vegas if you’re going to gamble on any race might as well be the Las Vegas race

Right I think um yeah absolutely and uh of course the Dale call make sure you call our number 704 584972 we want to hear from you the fans continue to tweet the hashtag don’t hold me to it y’all brought the a your aame for that this week and uh that’s going

To do it for this week Carla that’s GNA do it yeah we’ll see you next week we’ll sign off you better be here on djd reloaded thanks everyone for Listening