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PGA First Look | February 26, 2024 | Cognizant Classic DraftKings DFS Pricing and Process



Tyler Tamboline (ToeTagginTambo) and Mike Petta (hoop2410) break down the 2024 Cognizant Classic DraftKings PGA slate from a first look perspective. They look at pricing and give their first thoughts on how to approach the slate.

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All systems go clear for lift Up What’s up everyone Tyler tamboline here AKA toag and Tambo back for another edition of the first look show here on the shipet nation YouTube station appreciate everybody waiting all the support everything we’ll talk on that in a minute but just want to say first off

Uh we we thought they do that we uh we hit the Reps up they said 30 minutes I said to hoop let’s just wait a couple minutes I think they’re going to try and under promise overd deliver and sure enough they did so thank you guys for your patience there obviously

It sucks when we’re a little bit handcuffed I know some of you guys brought up some great thoughts throughout the chat like we could have talked about other stuff the course the weather we’re just more so worried if we do that and then pricing is an hour away

It’s like then we’re out in out in we don’t want to do that for you guys so I got my guy here hoopster with me as always do want to talk a little on that in a second obviously our guy degenerate 75 James would usually be here with me

Not sure if you guys saw over the weekend or not if you didn’t he did post out a tweet dealing with some health issues we’ve told him to take all the time that he needs he has full support of the community the nation everybody is behind him across the entire space shout

Out to our guy James when we know more when he wants to talk about it more it’ll be out there but for right now we’re going to support in any way we can hoop and I are going to fill in on this show we’ve got other shows that we’re

Going to be filling in on getting you guys all the content that you need he always says like you know for for one James has helped thousands of people in the time since he’s joined this space a very special dude one of a kind there’s

No way to outdo that or be what he is but we’ll try our best to fill the big shoes for the big guy he was worried about letting people down we told him absolutely not not letting anybody down he’s helped so many right now he just

Needs to help himself take care of his health and we’re g to be there for him we’re not going to let him down so hoop bring you in man we got a first look show here we’ll get to that but just want to talk a little bit on that first

Before we get into it yeah um you know obviously I definitely cannot replicate what what James does in in the PGA streets in terms of the content the video content he does a a phenomenal phenomenal job and he he’s really made huge leaps in this industry in a short

Period of time a lot of people uh have his back and support him and you can see that with the overwhelming uh support within the Degen Community the shiping nation Community Twitter in general so many people jumping in we wish him you know full health as quickly as possible

So Tambo and myself obviously we’ll do whatever we can uh to make sure that um you know we’re we’re filling trying to to fill uh the void on any any sort of content but he has our full support and I’ll be here doing this show and like you said we’re going to switch

Up the schedule just a little bit uh to make sure that no one is missing out on any sort of content but you know priority number one is James and his health and you got the Tweet up here so we can kind of talk through that yeah

You guys can go see this I mean just go over there obviously wish him all the best go to at the degenerate 75 you guys can hit him up show them some love we’ve been in contact with him and we’re talking with them daily hopefully we have some updates shortly but just

Wanted to let you guys know we posted in the Discord about it as as far as to Hoops point the one note on scheduling just for our shows so you guys are aware filling as many of the gaps as we can to make up for this is we want to make sure

You know that we are going to move our Tuesday show with hoop and I to Wednesday uh this week well again we’ll get stuff tentative for now we just want to get it covered but this week we’ll have it at Wednesday at 2:30 Eastern I think we said 2:30 p.m. Eastern Eastern

We are going to have a another chat for some of the members the big guy package that came over from d75 Wednesday evening and then on round two round three and round four we will still have the shows but they are going to be solo so this week Thursday and Friday round

Two and round three I’m going to take the shows for round four hoop is going to take it this week those will be free as well right here on the shipit nation YouTube station the round two show will stay on the Mayo media network but just

Want you guys to know that so you had that there as far as on the site goes everybody has stepped up James has a great team behind him that came over now it’s one team under the shipit nation brand but just to note we’ll still have the projections The Showdown projections

The stone the stone some of the premium shows will go away for the time being that James did again one of a kinds for him but we will have those covered on the stone like his sleepers as well as the model stuff and the outputs there so

Just really want to do our best to keep you guys in the loop on what’s going on definitely appreciate everybody that’s reached out I know James does as well anything else on that that you wanted to talk about hoop before we hop into this first look show and get back to it yeah

And if you are a member we we have a lot of messaging in the Discord in regard to the changes in the schedule so you can see see everything in there uh in written format but um yeah I mean another another week here in the the PGA

Streets pricing just came out and I got reprimanded if you’re a regular on the show you’re boy got in trouble pre-show here hoopster looking ahead at the pricing Tam was said what the hell are you doing you’re not allowed to do that so immediately shut it down but I did

See I did see some pricing range that uh you know made its return for for week two for second week in a row I should say hoop did the spoiler alert on the 5K range but you guys also did in the YouTube chat too so if you’re new here

You know that we you know we had our guy Junior shout out to Junior I think you had a decent week he was showing some stuff off in the shipit Discord yesterday but said 5K range is back yeah we’ll talk about Rory at 122 I do want to say from an original standpoint

Though hoop a lot of jokes about Jake knp winning yesterday and everyone you know we we had you know all of us djen I think was one of the first to say don’t sleep on him that’s right the the Jake nap jokes but if you didn’t know try and

To come with the originality Wide Awake Jake nobody was sleeping on him if you looked at the screenshots out on Twitter X whatever you want to call it there last night looked like everybody was was wide awake on Jake and not sleeping on Jake nap because there was a lot of

Winners out there that had the tickets the outrights they had them in their DraftKings lineups Showdown lineups you name it so a lot of won a lot of money with Jake knap over the weekend any other thoughts on last week’s event before we hop into this one oh it was

Looking like he was taking a nap for his first few holes it was looking a little little rough for him out of the gate but he did did obviously write the ship there down this the stretch and get the job done and his lady his lady was

Excited and his lady all these golfers man they do a good job in that department I will say they got themselves they got themselves locked and loaded with some quality Talent when it comes to that but she was excited too and looked pretty solid look pretty tall

Yeah the uh what What’s the thing I saw today oh uh full swing to is coming out on Netflix and if you saw the first one you know it’s pretty dry I mean I think feno Joel Damon there was definitely some good characters on it but like the

Opening scene of Jordan spe and Justin Thomas playing pick that card for $1,000 like that is exactly what’s going to get people excited and caring about these golfers that can go on private jets and bet $1 thousand dollar on which card is going to come up first out of the deck I

Mean come on so it seems like people are I do still remember when people are telling me that uh that was going to be like the F1 version it’s just going to change the world I think golf ratings have probably gone down quite a bit since that show came out as much as

People might think the other way but either way we’re here to talk I’ve got the pricing up they did similar to last week Rory they added 200 bucks so Rory is seven to one in most places goes right down we won’t get there but because the chat spoiled it Mack meiser

By the way DraftKings just slammed it on the back end if you guys saw Rob Bolton that was the last that was the VIN swy for Mac Meisner and they just slamed him at the bottom make him 5K boom it’s done get that pricing out Tambo ho Tambo push

The tampo push yeah they know that we need the pricing when we need it for you guys so you can see what they did there with that but you can talk about it again how how it handled I didn’t even see um what the final optimal lineup was

For last week maybe I can pull it up here while you talk about it but how did that the pricing treat you hoop or what was your thoughts on sort of that new pricing setup there from last week yeah I mean honestly it looks pretty similar

I mean you got the 12K guy up top and then we’re going to go all the way down to 5K and then the only difference this week is the names in between are a hell of a lot better than the names in between last week um you got Rory at the top at

122 um oh you already found it yeah so yeah so 5 seven guy in in CT pan uh so yeah you get what 9857 yeah yeah mean a lot of different so that was only 474 so left a ton of money on the table obviously the the

Optimal so I’m sure a lot of people have builds like this but they probably had Tony feno over you know one of those guys I think the math might work out pretty closely in regards to that but yeah I mean it’s pretty similar pricing structure you got the 5K you got the the

Top price around 122 and Rory and again like I said the only difference is going to be the names in the middle are going to be a hell of a lot better than they were last week so I like the 5K range we talked about it in length uh last show I

Think this this format should remain in place like tempt us to play these guys a little bit more like David lipsky like that was exciting to see him shoot like what seven under the first day then his ass shot like six over or whatever it

Was the next day like I want that sort of volatility like get us to play those guys at the bottom and that’s what the 5K range does and you know without you know looking deeply into it because I know it’s against the rules of the show guessing there’s some guys down there

That will be able to to play a little bit so yeah we can uh go through and uh you know talk through it there yeah real quick you didn’t even notice your guy but Ren hash shepit his boy EVR finally made an optimal so there’s that’s nice

9500 he got in there he told us last week that stud at the $9,500 range which was exactly EVR he got into the optimal but just of note if you just swapped it out here you would have got too and probably still been fine on the score so

Still didn’t need him sorry Ren no need for for EVR that’s just the optimal you could have won tournaments without him CT pan who James was all over last week said it just a a disrespectful price I believe is what he called it on this very show so hopefully we can find some

Of those and then your boy he’s back hoop Bobby Mack Bobby Mack is back my guy Steph Jagger got in there so I mean a lot of guys don’t sleep on Jake we got all the dudes in there let’s go back and talk through it yeah it is a lot of our

Boys that’s a good call McIntyre like yeah I I played a little bit I had a I had a five of six with him that was pretty solid but obviously the five and six not good enough but it’s good to have Bobby Mack back in our lives man and Nick yeah that

Mayo’s first winner of the Season betting wise on Jake knp comes from a from the beach which he announced in the video topless saying he had to change things up going into the studio so the hashtag in studio narrative lives on I’ll have to talk to Mayo about that

This week I’ll I’ll talk to him tomorrow and then see him on Wednesday for the show but we’ll get back to it here uh you know just looking at it from this spot we’re only going 9500 and up is the way we did it just same way we were

Talking about it in sort of the the setup because the way the pricing is but talk through this hoop even just do 10K and up first we got Tom Kim up to Rory mroy what are you doing in this upper range first thoughts yeah uh tough range

To be honest with you I mean Rory kind of similar to F now last week where you know kind of stood stood out six and a half Rory six and a half to one F now is kind of in that same price range um in terms of odds to win and then they’re

Both ra on 12K same situation I mean he’s clearly the best in this field hasn’t been playing all that well which is similar to too had the 24th at the Genesis a bad round one then kind of wred the ship after you know he’s the

You know the main guy in this field um and then the next guys you def definitely don’t feel comfortable with I mean cam young at 107 has turned his game around a little bit he’d definitely be my my second favorite in this range but paying like 10-6 for Fitzpatrick

10-2 for for Henley I don’t know if I necessarily feel great about that I mean I think the course might fit Henley pretty decent but man and then Tom Kim at uh at 101 I mean it goes off I mean the one the two that have the the high

Upside here are definitely Rory and then you can save $1,500 and go down to to cam young who’s been playing much better um but man Fitzpatrick Henley up here I don’t know if I can get there Tom Kim at 101 I think there’s some moderate interest so it’s tough again this just

Reminds me a lot of last week in terms of the decisions but the names are just a little sexier than last week and I think you’re going to be able to get different going up into this range I mean Rory f fine he’s going to get

Ownership no matter what we saw how easy it is to fit a 12K guy and whatever you know that’s fine but just looking at it like cam young eth and 16th in the last two Henley 24th some decent history but if you go beyond that when we get to the

9k range which we’re not there yet but Cole hoston sunjay Benny Anne like all those guys are going to be the ones I can tell you right now early on that are going to Garner the ownership so you’re going to be able to get probably at

Least some of these like Tom Kim and Henley have to be overlooked completely I think people always like a little bit of Cam young and Fitzpatrick they’ll get to Rory just because they can in the seven to one odds to win but that would be my early thoughts I think you’re

Going to see Henley and Fitzpatrick or sorry Henley and Kim really low owned here versus Fitzpatrick Rory and if people are going to it cam young but I do think this next 9k range is going to be where a lot of people like to start uh Nick did mention last year when Cole

Was in the mix here he was like 6K range now he’s up to 99,900 but yeah look look what he’s done right over the swing season all that stuff so give me your thoughts on this 9k range hoop here we’ve got uh Keith Mitchell right up to

Eric Cole they all fit perfectly right on the screen yeah it’s a much more exciting appealing uh pricing range here um you know you get a little bit of a break from Fitz Patrick at at 106 down to guys like Eric Cole post and you get

A pretty substantial uh price break so I am interested in these guys Cole a guy that we’ve been playing a lot of poston’s a guy that we’ve been playing a lot of the price tags again a lot you’re going to get stick shock on a lot of these guys because it’s more expensive

Than we’ve typically paid for them but in this field like I think the prices are Justified Cole Poston I think are phenomenal play sunjay at the 97 I think I got to see something out of them man I mean I know this was your boy last year

But the results have just not been good and he just he hasn’t been good um minwu Lee benan Chris Kirk Lowry Burger Connors uh Keith Mitchell I just prefer a lot of these guys more than the guys above them like the fitzpatricks and the Henley like I think you could I just

Don’t think there’s a $1,200 difference between uh I’ll use let’s use Lowry as example like why is Matthew Fitzpatrick $1,300 more expensive than Shane Lowry like I just don’t see the justification behind that I think a guy like Fitzpatrick will definitely get a little overlooked for that reason hasn’t played

Great and now he’s the third most expensive guy in the Slate so I think this 9k range is going to end up being a pretty popular range to be honest with you just looking at the names and then I kind of glanc down to the 8K range and

These names are just so much more appealing than the 8K range so I think this range is where you see a lot of ownership coming from because you can just make a without digging into anything what you know this is First Look obviously we haven’t dug into

Anything you can just make a case for a lot of these guys recent form and things like that Poston um Cole uh Benny on Chris K Lowry Keith Mitchell played well last week Conor’s had a good week not too long ago Burger looked pretty good

His last time out so it’s just easy just to off the top of your head make a case for these guys and you’re not paying the big time premium so I do think we see a lot of ownership uh in this 9k range when it’s all said and done uh going

Into Thursday yeah I agree fully with you and when you get into it just looking to build like even if you put two of them you still have almost $700 remaining I think these two could be popular Cole will be popular as well people like a little bit of M I guess we

Look at this this is like the course history range to Chris Kirk winner here last year 7eventh and 25th the years before Shane Lowry fifth second last couple years uh Daniel Berger I know he’s coming off you know back off of injury whatever and just started back

Recently but he’s at Fourth here the last couple times that he’s played It Keith Mitchell ninth here in a winner here back in the day ninth last year in the winter before uh Cole second last year but then you look at the recent form stuff posting 5ifth 6th 11th 20th

10th with a Mis cut not great here but playing better one thing I will say just from my notes looking this morning and just long term yes the same guys do show up in some cases but I will say it’s really not a course to get right on like

There’s just a lot going on I’ve been here I know people were talking in our Discord they don’t like the course they were talking about playing it too but I I actually like this course myself I went down when sunjay won that year and I thought it was an awesome course I

Always wanted to see a better field on this course it’s not it’s not amazing but it’s not bad and it’s going to get better I would like to see a event here at some point but apparently people say it’s also the golfers that don’t like this course and so that’s why you’re not

Going to see them want to show up here and that could be the case so Jack says he loves it I do love it from a uh viewer standpoint at home on the couch or there live and I also think it makes for good golf down the stretch it’s risk

First reward that last shot on 18 is always incredible coming in up over with the water on the right and everything we saw you know uh what was it the year was it straa two years ago that was the year that Lowry hit it into the wind died and

Then straa got like the perfect no wind no nothing t- shot yeah and didn’t Burger Kind of fall apart was was Burger In Contention there right I believe is that the event I’m thinking of because I had man that I have bad memories I had two live final seeds locked up and the

Had Burger and I think he hit in the water or something and I immediately lost both it was like a it was a a two live final seed and like a 50 to $60,000 swing by whatever his ass did on that last hole so I bad memories here but

That’s probably why guys don’t play here the water right I mean these guys don’t NE I mean there it’s more variance when you get on these courses with with a lot of water and I think a lot of these guys are are afraid of it so that’s probably

Why they don’t like playing here I’m with Brian give me all the water in the train wreck I like that you know this is awesome about it so uh Delbert asks about you know James talking about not leaving too much money on the table we

Do talk a lot of process over at shipet Nation here on these shows everything usually less than 800 that that’s me I don’t leave very much money at all unless it’s showdown or something where it’s like okay we’re playing a wave there could be only two guys at the

Upper range that I even want so I’ll definitely leave couple thousand on the table no problem in Showdown but for main slates typically my my salar is mostly filled out what about you hoop yeah same I mean I again I I typically fill out most of it I mean if if I’m

Playing the the 150 I think you always want to leave some on the table but I’m not actively going out trying to leave like $1,200 uh on the table like if it happens it happens can you win by leaving salary on the table uh absolutely it’s sport to sport it is

Slate to slate I’d say like last week I would have felt like way more comfortable leaving a good chunks of money on the table because of the the the field I mean it was just a weak field who the hell knew what was going to happen a lot of variant like in

Weaker field PGA events I think you can get away with leaving more money on the table but it’s not something I’m like actively looking to do leave like thousands on the table so I think people see like the optimal lineup from last week what was it like

$2600 that was left on the tail like oh man like I’m going to do that this week like you’re just giving up so much and potential win Equity by going that route but again if you were going to do something like that for me it would be

In those weaker field events where the variance is very very high yes I agree and that’s definitely something you could do all the time in those events it’s like if one guy doesn’t come through putting contest and Tony doesn’t come through he didn’t at 12K then I

Mean he did all right considering he did almost nothing but just to say he wasn’t needed or anything then that’s where you could see that happen you see where EVR beats him and that was pretty clear from the start that it could happen with somebody I won’t give EVR the credit but

Others could beat Tony and that’s the money that you need to leave on the table as far as burger goes I think it’ll be a leverage play I don’t see anybody getting excited to get to Burger here at $9,200 even with the fourth places here the last couple times he’s played it but

At phoeni look he came back had to get some [ __ ] right had a bad round then you go here and it’s like I guess even before that it was better but then you know not so great at the farmers but go back here I mean 66 69 69 and then a 72

In the middle not the worst so if you want to go to him I don’t have a problem with I think tournament wise you’re going to have definitely a lot more people in on somebody like Lowry right here Connor’s by the way too a bunch of

Top 30 35s lately he just needs to snap out of it a little bit but and I think you’ll see him squeezed as well because Lowry and Mitchell would be the ones that likely pick up the ownership here Benny post and Cole and then your secondaries would be like sunjay and

Kirk that leaves the rest like minwoo could go overlooked as well so definitely another thing to keep in mind when you get into this 9k range let’s go down to the eight soup and I see hogi there cheated a little bit he’s at 79 but let’s go eight fits

Perfectly again DraftKings man that’s what they were doing they were focusing on getting it to fit each range exactly within the pitch so that you could show it off for the people but right here we’ve got Justin Rose at 8,000 all the way up to Denny McCarthy at 8900 what

Are you thinking about this range yeah so I mean again just I think there’s a pretty big drop off in terms of talent when you come here versus the 9k range and I’m not saying these guys are going to be like low owned by any means but

You’re just going to get overall much lower ownership in this range than the 9k range um you know name that’s very interesting to see what people do is going to be pavon for sure I mean that would be the main talking point for me in this range I mean how well he has

Played followed up that win with a third place finish at the the Pebble Beach and he had been playing well prior to that like what do people do with him this week I think is a big talking point sep straa has the course history here people

Going to buy into that 8600 is a you know relatively big price tag for sep straa who has missed two of his last three cuts are people just blindly going to buy into the course history um yeah probably they they probably will Got Jake knap coming off the win at a course

That probably doesn’t fit him as well as last week like what do people do there Luke list has been playing pretty well uh Justin Rose seems like a pretty solid spot for him I don’t know this range I think is is pretty interesting people like to play Denny McCarthy McCarthy

He’s always a guy that people like because of the putting um but for me I already can tell you without diving deep into this I’m going to have much more exposure to the 9k range than the 8K range like I can get off a lot of these

Guys I could potentially get off sep straa who I know people are going to play because of the course history got another guy like you know Bo hustler in here who’s been playing pretty well at 83 you know the nice thing about his price a right there the average roster

Spot on DraftKings basically the same 8,300 noren a guy again that I could get off if he if he does get popular I mean you know he’s like a top 25 guy at best like I I just don’t see him coming out and winning this event so for me much

Prefer the 9k range there are some guys that going to be on here I’ve been playing pavon so he’s the one that stands out I I’ll definitely I can tell you that for sure I’ll be staying right on him at 8700 just playing really really well yeah and he squeezed too you know

Everybody’s favorite including mine Stephen Jagger right there talked about you know not a spot to get right he’s playing right already he makes Cuts whatever he’s going to get super popular I get it Denny makes cuts too though like I I just wanted to look back to see

Like the other spot here Denny McCarthy similar to the guy I just talked about above him in Cory Connors so just going back to Connors for a second Connors 24 28 31st 33rd like just needs it to break his way a little bit more to pay it off Denny McCarthy even

Cheaper than him and he’s 22nd 26 24th 39 like again making Cuts but where’s the ceiling and this is going to be I don’t disagree you know recent form history I think Jagger was 14th here last year but other than that he hasn’t actually been great here A bunch of

Water I don’t know like I I’m with you matu pavon he makes sense he’s in between Jagger and straa someone said the good hogard we we played his brother Nikolai last week it did not work out over the weekend his brother Nikolai won the DP World Tour Championship where

Rasmus his brother came 11th uh but Rasmus has been playing some good golf like if you go look here he he came second 8 six there’s other events that aren’t even updated in here on draftking so he’s been playing really good golf I actually could get to him at 87 or sorry at

8500 uh somebody asked I think it was Nick who who said this I know my guy Kenny Kim who won’t be on the fantasy golf degenerates tonight with me by the way he’s he’s out for this one it’s gonna be Ryan barov coming back that

This is his home course as well so we’ll have a lot to talk about more when we get there but it’s said dap WD at dude is going to be hung over for a week he was in the Anaheim Mighty Ducks jersey or Ducks now I guess and and taking the

Shotgun before the thing could basically get get to the interviews or the press conference so yeah looks uh looks good but he has not wded yet so definitely think he’s fine somebody mentioned earlier too we did skip over it I I’ll hit a couple more names in a second I

Like norin I like list I guess that’s sort of where it would round out for me and then we’ll go to the sevens but the weather right now our guy in the Discord OG John he’s in there bringing it up it’s his home course as well he’s been

Out there every year I’ve met him down there I was down when sunj won the year at this event it’s a great spot and he said that very fast and firm right now there’s no rain in the site coming in there there’s nothing like that we’ll

Keep you updated on weather but just to note that that obviously makes it so that you can uh you know find course fit and we do have our Guy Lee is gonna bring it over here’s the stone I was going to show you guys that quick one

More time you guys haven’t seen the stone before this is from last week but it’s got the players the prices their ownership projection ceiling tea times waved could be a wave advantage if we see uh wind pick up Friday afternoon and you want pmam here’s a quick spot that

You can see it with win Equity top 20 percentage made cut and then this covers recent form the model rank talked earlier for the sleepers videos and the model stuff will’ll have it in the stone as opposed to the premium shows this week and then it talks about their price

Relationship and things going on there just to go back to shipet Nation for a second if you go here we’ll update these for this week but going back to the course fit ranking for last week you had uh who who were some of the guys there

Brandon woo Harry Hall made his way up the board uh some of the other Carson young was okay I think CT pan was 24th he was one of the best guys in the 5K range that were on here so lipsky had a great first day and then disappeared off

The face of the map uh Nicholas he he came through I think Jagger came through so a lot of guys that you can find but the course fit rankings are not opinion based as it says they’re actually based on historical performance and the data around the course that we’re actually

Going to be at so if you guys want to get involved get over to shipit Nation I should note didn’t want to hit marketing too much today just to get it quickly but hoop 15 you do still go in the draw we’re announcing it Wednesday anybody

Who signs up using hoop 15 is going in the draw for a 555 ticket for those that did not see it it’s incredible this week it’s the 20% to first payout structure so it’s like 100 60 40 30 it’s the best of the best that we see when it comes to

The 555 for payout structures so shout out to our winners Vegas won the big guy version and then it was DB snides won the other one thanks again to hoop for putting those on he had a big week last week winning all the money before the week we’re talking about this past but

Um put on those contest and he’s got two more yet to give away so if you were looking to sign up go to shiping nation.com you use the code hoop 15 he’ll get you in there hoop let’s go to 7500 and up quick we got hubard up to

Hogi thoughts and first first look here in this range what are your thoughts yeah the the 7ks look pretty loaded up I mean there’s going to be a lot of guys that you can uh play here uh you know hogi at 7900 three straight solid

Finishes like uh I played him he was on my my main team that did really well a couple weeks ago like you talked about um just playing solid golf right now always interested in you know my guy senson at 7700 coming off the 10th at the Genesis

Uh bazen ho a guy I typically don’t play but been playing a little bit recently and again he’s a guy I want to play when he’s cheap because you know again I said about norin you’re looking for like a top 25 and there’s just not much upside

There and I apologize I think it was Jake in the chat that said he he bet norin outright to 50 to one or something like that and uh you you got your boy on here saying that there’s no win upside but that’s kind of how I view bazay Hood

As well but at 76 he doesn’t need to win like give me a 20th I’ll take that and run always in on hubard EVR just I oh wait EVR 74 so can’t uh can’t go that low yet but hubard Baden hoot um hogi are the three that I’m kind of looking

At this range preliminary but there’s there’s good plays down here man it’s going to be a week where you’re going to be able to get some some nice looking teams I think everyone knows you cheated and looked ahead again when you said the 7K range is loaded that’s okay we know

De with here we we appreciate Hy has to be popular I I think like just going to look here now uh I had it up a second ago it was all the recent form for sure like if you look it’s 8th 17th and six with another 17th just before that so

Bad course history here but again if I’m gonna like a guy like hogi this would be a prime example I don’t think again it’s first look just saw the pricing I don’t think based on the guys in the 8K range and the ones that you just talked about

Down here with the you know CZ when we get to EVR when we get to Spen and some of these guys where people play everyone I don’t see hogi as going insane but let’s say hogi got to like 14 to 15% I actually wouldn’t be as torn because you

Still can get enough of him right he’s only 14 15% and what’s holding him back is that some people would probably be saying but he sucks at this course and realistically to my point is it’s not really a place that you want to get right it’s a place you want coming in

Playing good golf and hogi is doing that right now you talked about svenson’s recent finish don’t mind that olison the big price drop maybe could bring you in on him you just say I’m going to take the talent he was expensive last week but again the field did get a lot

Stronger so I would note that CZ certainly looks good and then I don’t know about hubard man what was your take on him you mention him quickly but what’s your thoughts on you don’t even need to ask that question do you well you like him I guess it’s the the recent

Form he didn’t do much the last couple of weeks like this week he made the cut but yeah I I try to keep biases out but there’s certain guys I’m just always on and uh hub’s the guy I’m always on yeah I got I gota stand my boy I got I’m

Always on hubber everyone knows that so that’s uh you know it’s just my boy man just my boy gota stick you think everybody will be on EVR let’s move down let’s go to 7,400 down to oh look they even did it look at this 70 look scroll

Everyone watching EVR down to Billy hoe nope 6,900 coming up we’ll get there but look at that perfect y yeah wow look at that fitment today the fitment man it’s got me excited OCD over here let’s go so I think yeah EVR people will be on again

I don’t think there’s so many guys I think that are playable in the 7K range where I think it will probably get spread out quite a bit like I don’t think anyone stands out oh like I’m locking this guy are playing a ton of

Him Fox uh Rio I’m in on shank I’m in on as well but the two at the bottom um I think will end up getting some some ownership and that’s MAV McNeely at 71 just playing great played great last week and then your boy Doug gim at 7K as

Well three straight solid weeks um you know it’s tough to look away from those guys because the recent form I think the core sets up pretty well for or so mcnean and gim stand out to me you know how high owned do they get I don’t think

It’s going to be anything crazy they will get some ownership there’s no doubt about it but I think there’s enough guys here in this range that are playable where it should get spread out so um solid plays down here to make the roster construction a little bit easier I

Missed Brendan Todd above I could definitely get there as well this is the question Nick here’s what you do I can only show because I first I have to put him in to show this boom I pray he gets popular man after last week please please make EV

Popular this is the last spot you want a guy with all this water remember we they always do the what is it the Minnesota narrative when he plays around all the water at the 3M is it yeah the 3M I believe and it’s the same thing there and now if he

Gets popular it’s not even that I don’t like him he’s been playing good I’m just teasing our guy Ren but I will say I remember this he’s coming in off the eighth it looks good his record here miscut miscut 60th I don’t know what will happen and I’m not saying I pray he

Gets popular so that you know it guarantees anything because he can come through it he just got an eight I’m just saying there’s so many guys in this range that I would just be happy to Pivot and move off it that’s the early first thought so that’s my take there

Rio big price drop on him uh you know Matt Wallace looks pretty good to me Doug gim who you mentioned and then somebody said Billy horel and Florida yeah that that typically does tend to go pretty well hasn’t been doing much lately but obviously he’s got okay stuff

Here he’s priced down to 7K where you could at least get away with it a little bit so interesting to note the biggest takeaways for me hoop are some of these price stops olison EVR Rio olison was what 103 well look at drie wasn’t he

101 5900 so let’s go into this 6K range because the six is remember what happens we just talked about it last week and now we’re talking about it again oh come on DraftKings 65 is Bobby Mack look he got a drop too you can go here

Almost but D tree down to Woo is what we got here and D Tree I mean this what I was gonna say the 7K got push down because like last week There’s not very many in the 7K range so it spreads what would normally be 7K guys down to the 6K

So so what do we do here 6600 up to 6,900 what are you thinking and there’s a lot of names that look pretty damn appealing down here I mean a lot of times people try to end their teams in the sevens right I mean we talk about it

All the time on the show people are typically uncomfortable coming down into the 6K range if they can end at 72 73 that’s what they look to do but this week there’s some appealing guys down here Davis Thompson has been playing well Ben Griffin uh has made like three

Cuts in a row Carson young uh four Cuts in a row eighth last week at at the Mexico open Austin eote chessen Hadley uh Sammy valami 6600 after finishing second last week he will definitely get some ownership um and I’m fine staying

On him like I I was on him in a big way last week he’s my most popular guy in the 6K range didn’t find the right combination with him um but I think this guy’s pretty damn good Johnny Vegas Bobby Mack Lee Hodes I believe has good

Course history here he’s coming off a 24th Place finish um there are a lot of guys in this range so I think um you know what does this do for roster construction when you can make the case for a and this isn’t like digging to

Make a case for 6K guys like you can just naturally make a case for a lot of these guys down here here they’re playing well the course could potentially fit them well so what does this do um you know probably brings up Rory’s ownership a little bit probably

Brings the ownership up a lot of those guys in the 9k range that we’re gonna like so it makes roster construction much much easier when you can make a case for a lot of cheap guys and this is just the upper part of the 6K range there’s seven or eight guys that people

Are just gonna look at and say man I can play these guys and they’re going to put them in their player pool which means they’re going to be able to roster the more expensive guys in this field so um very strong range I’d say overall which

Is not typically the case I think I like Davis Thompson I agree with you I do think I like Davis Thompson a little bit early on just so on where he’s at and some of the guys above and below him but like 21st 15th 24th the cut was a 73

Which by the way is his worst round that he’s had going outside of a 71 at Mexico on Sunday and he was looking for something to pop there I had him in in the mix on Showdown and he started I think he had a couple birdies and then

Just tailed off and did nothing probably somebody mushed him in the Discord would be my guess try try and keep that one rolling but the um the 73 was a 69 and farmer is just a much tougher field tougher course all that so I could see

Him coming through I don’t mind that who else down here you know I don’t know if I’ll Chase valami I think of it like a big round I heard what you said but I just you know there’s so many guys here in this range Bobby Mack big big week

Last week bounced back Hodges I I do like the Hodes call you said he’s another one that I don’t know if as many would get to him reminds me uh a couple things one if I could ever find my guys here uh coming in off

A 24th a ninth and a 14th here the last two years and then he won the 3M the A4 mentioned 3M with EVR and all the water and everything they got going on at that course kind of reminds me a little bit of that so Lee Hodes was the winner at

That course last year and he’s down here at 6,500 so I think there’s a lot of guys that you could go to here uh sh Kim was 6900 or sorry 7900 a lot of these guys just some big big price drops Sam Stevens popular last week at

7100 missed the cut but now down to 6,300 I don’t know you know CT pan go back to the well I saw a lot of people betting him at 300 to one this morning SMY missed the cut on the number I always like guys like that that you can

Bounce back with SMY missed the cut after a 7170 hasn’t been doing much lately but again I could feel like this would be a better spot Sig Duncan I’m just going through the rest of the sixk range uh Dylan woo down here as well so there is

Some guys that I could get to was there anybody else you want to in the sixes before we go into the the 5K range pretty substantial drop off um just you know just blindly trying to make a case for some of these guys like in that

Upper 6K range I think it was very easy to make case for seven or eight guys um you start coming down here in this lower 6K range I think you really need to start digging to to make the case it’s not as natural not as many guys on the

Surface that that look very very good to me um Michael Kim at 64 had been playing well couple miscuts in a roow do you want to go back to him I know a lot of people are on this toasty guy um 6,300 he was last week is very popular missed

The cut Sam Stevens very very popular last week missed the cut um you know CT pan looked look solid Shan Kim looks solid um you know lanto Griffin made a cut last week uh didn’t do much with it just not much in this range like I can

Tell you already I’m going to have much more ownership on the guys in the upper sixes than lower it’s just I think a pretty pretty substantial drop off to be honest with you in terms of what you’re getting lower 6ks versus the upper 6ks chat brought up Aaron battley yeah I

Mean doing doing some solid stuff lately for his price at 6100 if you want to take a shot there I play you know what I actually played him last week you know I just a random dude that I played and um yeah he was on The Telecast and he

Looked pretty damn good like he had some really nice iron shots coming in uh on on Sunday yeah I I don’t know about this one Billy it is tough to say I really don’t think people are going to be considering the the Back in the Day

Stuff anymore I think it’s all going to go off recent and what they can do but I will say now that we’re going through it the reason I bring that up is good question but also like just looking at the pricing that we’re down to now you’re still seeing guys like I was

Looking up Novak and he’s right perfect segue to where we were going he’s at 5900 I think again T8 T8 all four under 70 last week like people are going to go to some of these guys no problem whatsoever and be able to get there so I

Do think you’re going to see Rory pick up some steam I guess what I would say is if you have enough of these guys that you like make sure you’re still getting some lineups like we saw in the optimal not leaving the 2K or 2600 or whatever

But as much as maybe playing some of the 10K range that may go overlooked multiple 9k guys to do it that way so uh yeah I think that’s the way to do it show us some love Yeah appreciate you guys almost 200 people watching not even

100 likes we forgot to ask off the top but definitely hit that like button subscribe to the channel if you haven’t already a lot of free shows coming down the pipeline especially in the PGA street so we do appreciate it for the first look where was I at here there was

Something else somebody mentioned here too um this was it this was the one about bad said recent form and putting has to be considered nice odds for a top 10 three straight tournaments one shot from the top 20 yeah that’s what I would say too and I was showing it earlier with

Guys like Connors and those guys it’s one or two strokes away from you just saying world you know three top 20s in a row but then sort of people leave them out a little bit because they’re not quite top 20s and they start to judge

Them based off of that so I I could totally agree there a lot of price drops like you said who back to you know Michael Kim toasty versus a guy like CT pan moving up Vincent Norman another guy missed missed it on the cut last week

Missed it on the number he’s down to 62 probably not the best setup but just to note some of these things you’re seeing with the pricing on the first look and then I thought Tyler Duncan before we go to that 5K with Novak Duncan oh it was his finished here last year finished

Third here last year but but uh you know Silverman popped last week for us he’s coming in off a 13th yeah yeah so go to the five days take us any of these 5K guys that stand out to you there’s a lot of guys yeah you got Silverman last week

At 6K who did well and then you got Novak at 5900 uh two straight top eight finishes have to imagine you know people are going to look him up this week uh you know 59 under 6K backto back t8s like got to be some interest there uh

Joseph bramlet um you know two out of three made cuts a 25th and a and a 38 for 5900 gonna be some interest for me personally I’ll be taking a look at at Garrick higgo um you know not a comfortable play but I just I still think there’s some upside with this dude

You know can can you realize it I don’t know Lashley another guy that got a pretty big break 5700 uh Harry Hall 5700 last week was pretty solid 33rd uh he would definitely take that ET of varia at 57 had the 24th last week do people

Go back to him Matthew neith 5600 Patton kazy 5600 again these aren’t like core plays or anything these are guys that can make a lot of things work for roster construction you can make the case Troy Merritt um Jimmy Stanger man the Stanger 3800 or 30 sorry not 38 he 38th last

Week at 5400 um that price is disrespectful as our guy uh degenerate would say that is a disrespectful price huh Jimmy Stanger is the disrespectful price that is disrespectful price on Jimmy St you should at least be 6,100 all right I’m in on I’m in on Stanger uh got high

Smith down here there’s names man there’s guys you can definitely play David lipsky uh 5200 shot a 65 in round one last week and he was I can’t remember the price we Che followed that up with a freaking 78 in round two that was uh man quite the turn around but

There there’s guys down here um that that are interesting and again they can make a lot of things work for roster construction when you plug in uh you know 5400 or 5,300 dollar guy this might be disrespectful to be honest Parker cudy who was priced more than his

Brother last week and people made fun of it goes out and gets the job done t24 after a T25 at Farmers which we just talked about some of those dudes that couldn’t even make the cut there the the other guys that we mentioned now gets popped down on the last minute

DraftKings pricing to say ah you’re the same as your brother again at this course which he missed the cut on last year but he saw it right he came out he gets to see the course get the feel for it so maybe he is the guy at 50 5100

That you can make some stuff work with we’ll have to wait and see but just to note it I thought I’d point that out I already talked about Novak so did you some of the other guys down here there was there was somebody else Harry Hall

Maybe he’s the new SE straa can come out and find his way around here you could see it uh one other guy to what was the other guy that I was going to mention oh campio this guy here had another good week and they don’t

Show it on here but there’s a there’s at least one or two good DP World Tour weeks in between here that aren’t going to show so for him he’s another guy at 5700 that you could see find their way around here I’m not sure if there’s

Anybody else that I got he’s coming A lot of appealing cheap options honestly like just talking through this and again we’ll have you know deeper Dives throughout the week here but just at first glance like there’s a lot of playable guys under 7K and Harry Hall

Did have that huge round four that was a nice and the nice thing the nice thing about it too with so many guys that are appealing shouldn’t have to worry about ownership that much like this should get spread out below 7K because again there

Is a lot of guys that you can make the case for so I don’t think it turns into a situation where we see too many of these guys get too popular gotta be my favorite part of the dynamic pricing is is the separation that you’re talking

About right there where you can kind of one you can key in pretty quickly and find out who those guys are going to be that are going to be popular within their range you typically have plenty of options around them that you can move to and then like I mentioned in certain

Scenarios where people are stuck in the middle whether it’s between course history recent form that they’re battling or just other guys within the same range you’re kind of see them where you’re getting that what I always say is kept in check right you see someone’s ownership stay at 13 14 when you thought

It would get to 20 or something like 10 to 12 when you thought it would get to 15 plus so you are able to still get leverage on the guys you want to get J but to your point I think what that means is you can spread it out a good

Bit here and be able to still uh be be unique in that sense the chat wanted to talk about Ryan Palmer too going through I think that was more a thing of the past he miscut 70th didn’t play I mean the last three years have this was his

Course right it was supposed this is a spot he always did well at for a while right he did well what on the water holes or whatever so that was where people sort of gave it that way but let’s see Billy’s question he’s had a couple good ones today you think it’s

Truly gets spread out which I do for the the most part outside like I said we’ll know the exact congestion areas how do you feel about taking a stand on a few guys below and maybe going 30% and spreading it out up top definitely like that strategy um talk about it all the

Time and especially if you were playing less lineups my my saying if you play lighter play Tighter and that’s kind of this way pick your spots take your stands and I brought this up last year I had a lot of success with this last season it hasn’t fully panned out I mean

I just did come third in the mil Maker two weeks ago which was nice but it hasn’t been great otherwise on my mme stuff where I like taking the stands down low pick the guys that I feel are disrespect or I know other people like

To spread out on them but I think it’s way harder to pick a winner up top and figure out who it’s actually going to be when you get the fields like this when you can name Rory Fitzpatrick Eric Cole Poston IM Lee like there’s just so many

Guys that it could be that I kind of like what you’re doing there with that and then hoop I wanted to get your take not on that but did you see Ben lowen last week in the the big $20 the guy played a 100 150 man $20 I think it was

$20 buying last week train of the exact same lineup unknown if he left it in and slept through it or if he meant to do that but he ended up picking up around 54 to 57 Grand somewhere in that range I I can’t remember exactly I think it was what was it

382 he ended up picking up around 57,000 for about 54 Grand in profit so what’s your take on running the train in in these tournaments there’s certainly c times certain times in life when running the train might sound fun and appealing but in a 150 Max uh gpp uh I’d

Advise uh strongly against it but you know if it pays off it obviously pays off I mean the week I won the uh Millie in the NFL there’s a guy that played the same team I think 28 times and it was a one V one versus what I had um he was

Winning first through 28 before I surpassed him he was winning like two million he’s winning BAS basically the entire prize pool for that event so I mean obviously if it hits you’re hitting super hard but I mean it’s yeah nothing that I’d be doing but good for him do do

You want to get it banned do you want to petition to get the train banned because what what if that week he wins and you would have been the Millie maker winner but you come in 150 first place instead no no even even if yeah no I think if

Someone wants to do it yeah well don’t let them do it I mean that’s that’s their money I mean it’s not optimal to to run that sort of system someone wants to do it let him do it I don’t think it should be banned though I I don’t know

What’s right my my take was simple that I just think it’s a bad move I think in the not because he won that’s the result of it I think it’s a who said in the Discord today best a statistical anomaly we only talk about the train when it

Happens and you see it up there usually it’s at the very back or it wasn’t set or it was a really bad lineup or whatever it might be but I will say like if you really thought you had the nuts and that’s your lineup why not just make

It so that you have at least four at least five of those guys in every lineup and then spread it out we saw uh you know a couple what was it last week or the week before in round four Showdown de seep ended up with The Showdown holdown logo ended up getting first

Second third fifth seventh 10th you still win a bunch of money but you had almost all the outs to the top because you had so many onv ons and Alternatives where you might just find that Spike play and if it’s you’re running a lineup like that you think it’s the optimal

Basically you’re saying this is the optimal it’s going to win so you if you think four or five of those are optimal plays I’d want to spread the other pieces around them I know everyone’s going to say you’re you’re talking bad about a guy that turned 3K into 54

That’s fine uh it happens that’s good for him and I’m I’m happy for him I’m saying more from process standpoint and thinking about it even if you wanted to follow the model of you know a play lighter play tighter or if you just want to play high risk High reward I would

Still spread it out some and I would have said at least four of this pool if that’s the case that you think that’s the six nut plays and then fit some of the other guys in around it you’ll still have a super tight pool but you’ll have

Other ways to get to the top if it doesn’t fully work out on that lineup where again he came 10th for 54k but I think we did the math later in the Discord if he had a one it would have been what was it 150 just for first would have been over

250k for everything but again you’re hoping you just find that one winner and you almost double your money from 54k to 100K because you would had more outs to the top so yeah I’m fine with it it’s definitely a great return for what they got but I think we only talk about

Trains when it comes down to uh when it comes down to them actually hitting speaking of trains Tom Kim Thomas the Train he’s here Choo Chu it could be Tom Kim week if nobody’s on it maybe maybe that’s the guy that we want to find here

Guess I don’t hate him to be honest with you I mean just seeing that the 101 is next to his his name the $10,000 price tag could keep ownership in Che like okay well he’s 101 but you know Eric Cole JT Poston sunj are in the 9k range

They’re pricing only four figures versus five figures and I think that does you know mess with people’s heads a little bit I think for sure and then you go back back to look at Henley it’s only a 24th and a fourth in two of his last

Three those are pretty good but he’s won here back in the day eighth and third the last two times he’s played it I think if somebody goes to anyone here it’s obviously gonna be Eric Cole Poston and sunjay but it would also probably be Henley so I think Tom Kim gets squeezed

And in case you didn’t know and you’re serious swoop hopefully you are we we were talking about a train in DFS where people are running a 150 of the exact same lineup and just leaving it hoping to win every single prize one through 150th so little bit of Education there

For you guys today on that stuff hopefully this was helpful we love doing this first look still we’ll be back on Wednesday around 2:30 PM Eastern here on this if you haven’t subscribed do that now if you haven’t hit the like button it helps us out a ton just do that for

Us as an extra favor at the end hoop is there any final thoughts from you before we get out of here yeah I just appreciate all the support and you know we we opened uh opened the show kind of talking about the the the format this

Week a little bit bit different with our guy uh James battling some some health issues you know we again Health family priority number one in life in in general so we’re wishing him well hoping he can get back to to hopping on these shows and providing the great content uh

That he does on a on a daily and weekly basis and that’s what this is all about 100% James thinking about your brother I know the whole Community is behind you we’ve been in touch we’ll talk more soon thank you guys so much for watching if

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6 Comments

  1. DFS is so cruel. I've been playing long enough to know nothing is guaranteed but I was 2nd in the $3 20 max coming into Sunday and my guys combined for +1 and I dropped back but still doubled my money. Each week my process is getting closer and closer to hitting, lets get it this week! 💪🚀

  2. Is your Tuesday show moving back to Wednesday kind of taking the place for the emergency stream, so we would have James’s blessing to fill out our lineups?

  3. Wasn’t making anything heading into Sundays main lineups. Wound up tripling money with a solid Sunday finish starting 40pts back of min cash in every tournament 5/6

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