On this week’s episode of GOLF’s Subpar, MLB All-Star Zac Gallen joins Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The stud Arizona Diamondbacks pitcher talks his experience at the WM Phoenix Open Pro-Am, how position players react to him playing golf on road trips and his team’s incredible run to the 2023 World Series.
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All right here we go another episode of golf subpar with Colt no and Drew St the Mexican open at Vidant is in the books and a young fella PGA Tour rookie gets the job done Jake Napp becom the third rookie this year already on the PGA tour
To win which matches the total all of last year but it wasn’t smooth sailing for the fell from California no it was not in fact BG good to be with you and yeah like going into that final round a it’s the perfect golf course setup for
Jake Gap he hits huge bombs uh cruises at like 190 ball speed uh Great Golf Course setup for him after that third round you’re going in the final round like this thing could be a runaway it could be a snooze Fest quickly then it looked like he might not even be winning
After seven holes and then we had I ended up getting some pretty good drama down the stretch from that but um it ain’t winning on the PJ tour at any event much less for the first time but this is you know we talk about the changing of the schedule and the
Signature Events and things like this is kind of what you hope to see in these non-s Signature Events is like the new guys the fresh guys a rookies like a jake knp who has potential to be really really good and go like this is our kind
Of First Look at Jake knp and um dude that golf swing’s fun to watch dude it is long it’s old school kind of and it’s got a shitload of speed in it yeah I mean I saw what he did on Saturday making 11 birdies cruising everybody was
Saying like this could be the next big star in the game of golf and then I sat down and watched it all on Sunday and my god did he have it at 10 and two white knuckling like just get this [ __ ] to the house it was I blame I felt so bad
For him the way he started I’m like cuz he wasn’t just hitting it a little bit offline it was Miles offline I mean we had duck hooks we had slices we had a scold iron shot on the first toll I was like this could be a disaster but he
Rided the ship won it with his short game on that back nine you know I I’m very very happy for the guy I remember we had James nites on our serious XM show before who covers the corn fairy tour asked him like who’s a guy to watch
Coming off the corn fairy tour said Jake naap so Props to you nitties for nailing that one it’s a huge win this is going to you know change his life change his schedule all the Signature Events the Masters Maui everything that comes with it is awesome the good news was he
Didn’t have the likes of a Scotty sheffler Maxa Jordan spe kind of player trying to um chase him down but hey a win’s a win yeah part of that’s to what he did on Saturday going out making 11 birdies giving himself a big cushion
Like it is going to be hard to close it out for the first time for anybody by the way even these guys you just mentioned the bigname guys like they got to start somewhere you know and you got to win some of the lower level events before you even get into the bigger
Events and have a chance to win those but man his talent level’s high that golf swing he’s got so much speed to me watching him in that final round I was like it looks like he’s trying to swing in slow motion like he’s trying to not
Hit it hard like he’s trying to slow everything down yeah like you don’t need to hit it hard and then he was hitting it crooked and I at one point I was like man if I was this caddy I should like dude stop trying to guide this thing
You’ve been hitting great all week keep sending it but yeah the way he hit it off the te that final round those are big Fairways by the way this isn’t like hitting two at harbort toown or something like that you see some of the highest Fairway percentages of the
Season out there but dude I don’t care he got it done typically winning your first one ain’t easy it wasn’t for him but he closed the deal and um look out for him going forward like I said this is kind of the cool thing about the non-
Signature Events I think we’re going to get a lot of stories like this throughout the year and his story is cool too like well documented former bouncer just a couple years ago needed some money did that for a long time it kind of gave him a new appreciation for
Playing golf for a living uh he was at a bouncer at a place called The Country Club New which is not a golf place lot of brawls at the Country Club I did see someone tweet that he should wear all black like a security guard on Sundays I
Think that’d be a good look yeah he could get a little SP maybe a Yellow Jack when it rains get one of those event staff jackets out there that’d be a good sponsorship deal shout out with what you said about the nons Signature Events like I hate all the haters out
There that tweet oh I don’t even know who these guys are who like I mean this field is so terrible well you know what for the most part most of the guys coming off the corn fairy tour we don’t know who they are I mean we do we follow
Golf non-stop but for the for the rest of the world out there that just tunes into the PGA Tour like the people in The Signature Events earn their way there and that’s why we know about them these guys get to know these names because they could be the future stars of the
Game they might not but they damn sure could be we didn’t know who Patrick Reed was and he he came out of college was Monday qualifying every week did it like five or seven times in one season ended up winning no one knew who he was before
That I mean you can go all the way back to like Dustin Johnson won at turning stone his rookie year needed like a big week just to keep his card at that point I’m pretty sure at the time people like oh Dustin Johnson like this isn’t a good
Field you know some rookie won like you got to win these lower level ones too very few guys just come out and start winning Majors or contending in Majors or winning big time events a it takes like I said it takes time to get to earn
Your way into those events and B it takes some experience like being in the hunt a few times before you close one out so like what it’s just the the nature of golf right now with how long the schedule is you’re not going going
To have the you know 20 of the top 25 in the field every single week they can’t play all those times so you’re going to have weeks like this and quite frankly I think it’s a good opportunity for these guys like a jake knp to get in there and
Have a chance to win and not have to beat the Scotties and the Rory’s and all those guys the Colin Moore coward and jts like get your feet wet learn how to win against some of the you know other guys that are still world class players
But they’re not that and then it gives you some confidence and you work way into but dude he’s fun to watch play the game I tell you that and his upside is Big um if he gets that driver going anywhere the way he hits it like he can
Be a threat and he’s plays played good golf at Tor too look not many people knew who s thala was when he came out finish his third at Phoenix Open in front of a rockish crowd now everybody loves him and he’s a fan favorite every
Time he tees it up yeah it takes time like you don’t just come out unless you’re one of these weird guys you know lud VI obber like he skews the scale Colin morawa came out started winning right away like there are those guys but it’s very very few and far between so it
Takes time to become a star so I I mean dude quite frankly I watched more of that golf tournament on Sunday than I did Riviera like coming down the stretch you know after like Hideki had that thing one I was like I thought yesterday’s was was more fascinating I
Thought you would always stay locked in since your boy’s broadcast figured I’d just get the Highlight re you know what I mean yeah apprciate it probably [ __ ] on n a little bit doing something yeah this thing in the books we were one viewer away from winning an
Emmy you cost us I know dude you got to earn me you got to earn me but I’d say you this Bud speaking of golf news there’s a name that a lot of people know about a lot of people been wondering about for a long time officially offici
Now Anthony Kim back in the world of professional golf going to be making his debut at jeda on lip I said Jedi earlier today that name that name messed me up a little bit jeda AK back though down in Saudi Arabia excited to see Anthony Kim
Back look he’s a guy I’ve been begging for I think a year and a half for him to come on the show wanted him to be sitting in this chair right in between us and hoping that he was going to make his return on the PGA tour there was a
Lot of talks him possibly going back to one of them either the PGA Tour or live um Liv got a hold of them they got some Deep Pockets and he’ll be teeing it up I’ve heard some rumors that he’ll be playing as a wild card in a couple
Events then just recently before we came on here I heard he’ll be playing the final 12 as a wild card over at Liv so either way I’m very excited to see what Anthony Kim does it’s been 12 years since we’ve seen him play competitively I’ve seen a lot of videos of the swing
Over the last month or two looks as good as always but competitive golf is obviously much different than at home with your boys slapping them around in money games but look Anthony Kim he definitely helps move the needle I I said on our SiriusXM show I love John
ROM huge John ROM fan I think if this event was in America or anywhere where we could watch it live it would crush John ROM’s debut at live because I think that many people are interested to see what Anthony Kim does I don’t I said on
The radio I don’t think there’s a bigger needle mover in terms of immediate attention right now now whether that hangs on for months and months or years and years I don’t know I think that a lot of that depends on how Anthony plays but I don’t think there’s a bigger uh
Needle mover for one week right away than Anthony Kim and I can be damn sure the PJ tour did all they could to try to get in play on that past champions sure sponsors exemptions were lined up around the block I think Liv’s probably a safer landing spot financially speaking he’s
Got an insurance policy you know that’ll probably go away I think there’s probably more guarantees that live that’s safe to say but from right now from the time he sticks a tea in the ground I don’t think there’s another guy in golf that will Garner more attention
Than Anthony K the first week and listen I get that the the backers of Liv are from Saudi Arabia so they want them over there in their country I’m just shocked at for a guy that’s as big a star as he is in the United States that they didn’t
Have his debut be over here where can Garner tons of eyeballs go up against the PGA Tour and try to compete with him in the ratings I’m a little surprised by that um I’m surprised by a lot of things they do but hey this is a great get for
Liv it’s a huge haul for them we would have been saying the exact same thing if he’ said announced that he was playing the next PGA Tour event we’d be like wow what a coup for the PGA Tour you know what I mean so I I think if I had a
Theory like you mentioned 12 years since he’s played competitive golf I personally have pretty low expectations how he’s going to play competitively not just the first week but for a while it you know like we look at will Alor took some time off like dude we got to give
Him some Runway it’s been 12 years for Anthony Kim I don’t expect him to go light the world on fire I think maybe part of not debuting in America is like let’s keep him over here for a little bit let him work off a little bit of the
Rust and then give him I think they’ll have two starts before they eventually come to Miami which is the week before the Masters and then that’ll be like the first boom domestic appearance for Anthony Kim in tournament golf but it’s a big it’s a big haul for them this guy
Like he’s been Sasquatch man like there’s sightings and it blows up the internet and all that and people want to know I’m honestly more excited for wish it was right here on our show but the first time he sits down and talks and just be like dude what you been doing
Would’ love to hear that from Anthony and I think all golf fans across the world probably want to hear listen if I can watch it I’ll be tuned in there’s no doubt I’ll be extremely excited to see what the game looks like you know what
His person alties like now this is a guy that I was really close with um you know spent a lot of time in college early on in our professionals career hanging out playing a lot of golf together one of the most talented humans I’ve ever been around I’m excited for him man it’s
Going to be great I don’t expect it to be completely smooth sailing for him right out of the gate I mean 12 years is a long time but I’ll tell you what is smooth sailing slee the Genesis oh my God if you’re in the car market bud I
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Episodes don’t do as well as we would like if you don’t listen to this one you’ve lost your damn mind because this guy is a stud he’s one of the starting pitchers for the Arizona Diamondbacks one of the best pitchers in the league this was the first time met him and I
Think I just found a new best friend I love this guy this episode is one of my favorites we have ever done let’s get to it here’s Zach Gallen on subpar all right folks we have got a ball player with us here today one of the best pitchers in all of Major League
Baseball first team MLB fresh off a World Series appearance we got and a WM Phoenix Open pram appearance the Milkman Zach gallon what’s going on brother how we doing fellas good to have you brother yeah I’m glad to be here thank you so much sorry about your loss in the world
Serious I’m a I’m a Texas guy that’s sorry I was at game what what pitch did Ram throw at game four uh three whatever he was whatever game that was I was there for how’ you think he did in that you got to see the action up close he
Was impaired with the jacket a little bit Yeah so but he had to wear the jacket he was in the clubhouse before the game and he’s like should I wear it should I not wear it I was like you got to wear it you have to wear it for the
Yeah he was telling us like there’s a lot of rules and stipulations about wearing that like how when you wear the jacket you have to dress I’m like you have to wear it like doesn’t matter just get it in the air there are a ton of
Rules he came in here right after he won had it on had a pair of Jordans on and it was in our video and his AG like H you got to cut bring that up cut the feet out you can’t wear sneakers with it no sneakers he was like you got wear
Slacks a tie like a special tie like it was it was cool to get around them and he like cuz you just figured like you have to you have to call and let him and ask them I’m like dude I won the thing I want to wear this everywhere yeah it
It’s crazy like I would just figure it’ be like Happy Gilmore where you’re just like wearing it everywhere around town you know go to the grocery store yeah go to the steam room in that thing that’s a whole I would just won the Masters I’ve
Wear like a robe at the house it’s like I’m just wearing it around you know yeah smoking jacket you got the East Side Golf t-shirt on so you’re obviously a big golf fan scale of 1 to 10 how big a golf fan is Zach gallon big I mean I
Guess it depends on how you classify your fandom probably a seven like I don’t I can’t follow it so much but like the big events like it’s on in the clubhouse like you know all the major and stuff like that we have them on in the clubhouse and you know trying to
Follow along as best I can yeah big enough that you play the WM proam we were just talking about that experience a little bit how was that and you got a little bit of a [ __ ] draw with the weather but it actually ended up being a pretty decent little Wednesday it was a
It was a solid day like we were saying before like I got like the last two I’ve had the co year and then this one with the rain so yeah I mean it’s a special event it’s cool like just to be a part of it um you know it’s it’s a great
Event but the rain was tough but shout of Glory was yeah who’d you get paired with I was with Brandon woo and then supposed to be JT Poston who I played with last time which is cool he’s a I think he’s a pretty big baseball fan I
Think his brother he said maybe he’s like a baseball agent or something like that so we a huge Tar Hill fan yeah so we had some we had some stuff in common last time and then his cadd was awesome so like I was looking forward to playing
With oh dude D have loved them yeah his cadd Aon F actually stays at my house during the WM Phoenix Open the man’s got some pipes he can sing he he’s a lot of fun he’s a special one he special one I was looking forward to it so I was
Bummed got rained out but yeah the postman and the Milkman that would have been a nice little [ __ ] Duo right there but you got the shot at glory I was stressed about shot at glory cuz I was like dude the weather [ __ ] none of the celebs are going to stick around and
Be like hey we might have this we might not they’re going to get on planes and go home and also I was like the fans I don’t know who’s going to be there sure enough you get to that thing 20 there wasn’t a seat empty in that thing 20,000
Strong packed like I I was shocked like we were saying like I had buddies like we’re still at 16 just like partying let’s I’m like all right let’s just go over and hang out and then we find out my cat Marty was he was taking my bags
Up and I think he ran into fuj and um Phelps and he was like they’re still doing shout of Glory like Tell G if he wants to do it like I’m like all right and he’s like it’s going to be like a 145 shot so he brought two clubs and we
Were just like carrying him around at 16 like people were like what are you doing I got do sh of Glory like 30 minutes so I was like we kind of turned into like a little bit of a joke but yeah it was uh
It’s I mean I I was I was shocked that people were still there everybody those those tickets aren’t cheap so if you have one you’re going to go out there you’re going to enjoy yourself but you went down to shot of Glory so all the
SBS go down hit a shot close to the pin wins something holding one’s a million bucks Mone charity yeah money to charity take us through your shot how how’d it go what were the nerves like leading up to it yeah I I was I was pretty ner like
I don’t get nervous when I pitch cuz it’s something I’m like at no I’m like used to doing like I get more like anxiety like I just want to get it to go like I let’s just get it going like I’m I’m never really nervous never been that
Way it’s just like all right like I’ve done on my preparation let’s just get this thing going like but the guy I was like all right there’s people here it’s a it was like a bowling alley down there it was so tight on that te yeah claustrophobic what kind of yardage 128
I think the pin was 144 if I remember correctly we didn’t have that was the one thing on Marty I was like he’s like I didn’t bring I didn’t bring the shooter and I was like all right we need to find somebody who has it so somebody
Shot I think it was Adrien Bel tr’s caddy and he was like I got it at 144 I’m like all right so it was downwind I’m like there going to be a little bit adrenaline so like all this things like fact I can’t imagine like you know
Trying to factor in you know how many shots guys play in a major or in like a weekend event it’s like 200 and some odd shots so it’s like but yeah it was uh I think I I hit like 10 feet from the pin
Spun it back I W up staying on the green so like I was I was pumped about that but I just didn’t want to kill somebody I was like just get in the air just just don’t skull one just don’t shank it um so yeah I was I was relieved that it was
On the green most importantly who was the worst cold cuts hit a pretty I only paid attention for a handful of guys cuz it’s such a [ __ ] show up there but like cold cuts hit a a knife that never really went above belly button height I think
It would have gone 272 yards if it hadn’t run into something with a pitching wedge um but there was no like were you there La it was last year one of the The Bachelor can’t remember his name apologies to The Bachelor he showed up never plays golf barefooted overalls
Split grip grip practice swing takes a this big ball teed up this High and the cameraman get eight yards in front of him and barely off his line and he damn near killed a dude and that like shut down the production for a while there was none of that this year they they
Needed a the photographers needed a helmet there somebody Apparently after I hit drilled a photographer I don’t I I missed it I was doing an interview one of like the local TV stations or whatever and I came back my was like did you see that I’m like what happened he’s
Like somebody like right in the inner thigh God the nuts are look out dangerous dude you got need some and you need like a helmet helmet to go to the shot of Glory it must be whoever draws the shortest straws got to be the cameraman for that so you might die but
We’re also going to get a couple usable shots I was talking speaking to Cuts I was talking to to Bob and he was like that was like I never had anything like that before I was like yeah it was a literal bowling alley out there I was like those dudes were freaking out
Before it was awesome actually talking like dude this is cuz it was more a you have the 20,000 but be that tea was so overcrowded and it was so congested like you could didn’t have room to breathe just had to be like for people that don’t play golf like that’s suffocating
Yeah it shocks me like I mean we go to Every PJ Tour event those guys are the best in the world so they line close there we go to Tahoe or this event here I’m like you you people realize these people they’re not good at golf this is
Not what they do like you’re just begging to get killed right now it it’s not not a good environment for like standing really close’s Brian erer with a three-wood From the Rough and they’re like let me and they Ry what are you doing here for a reason my girlfriend was standing her my
Girlfriend and her friends were standing right behind the camera guy on the left side and thankfully there weren’t a lot of Lefty golfers But like after the second one I was like hey you guys might want to just move down a little bit like just give me a little space I can’t have
You wear one on the forehead like that I got I got to WAP I got R so can you just slide down just a little bit so yeah we got to tighten that up just a little bit who are some of your favorite golfers to
Follow oh I mean I don’t know I mean what windom’s been doing has been awesome I got to talk to him a little bit at the the dream day on Tuesday and just kind of hearing his story I think is is like a super cool thing um you
Know I can respect just grinding and finally trying to break through and then like have your moment he’s been on fire um I don’t know H is not he’s a Dodgers fan so I’m kind of like yeah so I was like he was sitting behind the dog at
Actually like one of the games earlier this year year and I kept looking I’m like why do I know this guy why do I know this guy and I come back and I was like oh I think that’s homo so it’s like I was hoping I got to play with him in
The pram so we could talk some [ __ ] about the Dodgers and and whatnot um Rory’s always you know sick to watch just cuz it’s Rory so it’s like I mean any any like anything that like guys that have like just pure swings like I just love watching I’m trying to soak it
All in as best I can have you gotten to be buzs with like there’s so many of them around here and you’re getting into the Golf Scene you gotten to play with any of them or develop friendships with any of them no uh none other than the
Guys I’ve gotten to play with in the proam um got to play with with Poston um Brian Harmon was really cool he the first time I played in the program I played with him um yeah I mean all those guys are just like he threw out a great first great first pitch good
Representation for golfers he threw out the first pitch at a East I think was it was it during East Lake cuz he won the Open Championship so they come back East Lake Atlanta sick and threw one out and it was nice it was like quick boom like
You could tell he throw yeah no he’s he helped me it’s funny I I guess I got I’m like biased cuz I was I had a fried egg and that the last time I played and he was I couldn’t get it out and he was like all right try this and like closed
The club face super and I’m like it was cool for him just like to take 30 seconds like hey man try this and like so I’m on the like I don’t know fourth hole in the bunker and he’s just like I got like a little chipping lesson from
Him so I was like I like following him um and then my buddies at home no like that’s your guy huh that’s your guy I’m like he’s not my guy because he probably doesn’t remember me at all but I’m like yeah I’m I’m partial to that cuz I got
To play with him he remembers best friends with the Open champ no big deal yeah I mean sorry about you think it’s a cool deal to play with them as golfers and I can guarantee like all of them think it’s a cooler deal like yo I’m actually I’m playing with like a dude
Like you think you’re like fish out of water they’re like no dude they love that no I just try and stay out of their way I’m like listen like even when I even I played with Brandon woo this year and I’m like I don’t want to go like CU
I don’t know what those guys are trying to accomplish in the proam day like I know like when I’m if they had a baseball similar type of thing like I would be very intentional but like also understand like you know you try to interact with the people there so like I
Try to stay out of their way but all those guys are yeah they’re awesome they just you know come up like to shoot the [ __ ] and speaking of Windom you know he’s made a gazillion dollars last year and a half just left whis brck he’s up there playing 82-year-old Mike young and
JY right now trying to get a little more cash by the way that’s the shittiest investment you can make is playing Mikey and Jin he’s the dumbest bazillionaire now of all Mike young will kill you he’s going to take all your US Open money it’s going to be great he’s going to
Need that champion store he’s going be the only dude to blow through and he’s not going to buy a single [ __ ] thing is the thing he’s just going to lose it and shitty gam house money right now wor Gambler in the world what did you waste
Your money on Mike young at Whisper rock Jen poker he thinks he’s nice at poker he shows up to the caddy games and loses his ass he’s terrible he loses to Ellis on their year-long Jin little pool that they got yeah we’ll get you set up with
If you like dub has an easy easy setup and his watching his stuff like you play with some nice dudes in those things but like his is is different he I didn’t real like on TV it’s hard to tell not how good guys are but like I
Didn’t realize how long he was so he does that like cuz he’s not he’s smaller than me so I’m like all right like the year before was John ROM and I’m like all right I know John ROM can like sling it out there and then Windam steps up
And they have him hit balls the dream day and I’m like he’s hammering balls here like I mean when he goes I mean he’s top three or four yeah if he wanted to try to like lead it be the long I think he could yeah real [ __ ] close
The freak athletes in that sense like I I think that’s like super impressive his is cool though because he’s in Perfect Balance like he doesn’t look like he’s falling over and he has 190 ball speed yeah like which is just it does look like anything you watch it like that’s
It’s just not coming down yeah like it’s just out there forever it doesn’t even look like he’s going at it that hard he was he was sailing balls over that tent down range at at Champions I was like yeah that range that range crazy I’m like yeah this guy I
Didn’t realize he was that long it’s like when we go to colon I CAD for him a couple years at Colonial we go to Colonial it’s a notoriously like small driving range he can’t even hit three Woods he has to swing slow motion drivers and hit chips and stuff he’s
Like dude it’s kind of weird going to the first T it’s the only term I ever go to where I haven’t hit like an actual driver I never had that problem no I was like dude I just send it all day and then I send it again sling it it went
Over it went over the Trinity what kind of handicap you carry uh I think I’m at a 88 right now I was down to like a seven but I I have no business at being a seven I can’t putt so like I lose my wallet when we’re on the road really
Yeah that’s a great question because all the pitchers you know they’ve been known traveling with their clubs and everything because you get some days off on road trips are you one that travels with the clubs and how often you play almost every trip my clubs are on there
Unless it’s like a three-day trip to San Diego where it’s like no off day or like I’m pitching or something like that where I’m like it doesn’t make sense for me to bring them but I would say 90 to 9 5% of the trips I’m bringing that’s sick
I didn’t know that was still I didn’t know if that was like still a thing or it had to be like Smoltz glav and Maddox level like era do that it’s I would say it’s probably dependent on the org but like our manager to is the man he’s like
Listen if you guys need to do whatever to get away from baseball like I understand the grind he’s like if you guys want to go play golf like just make sure you’re ready to play like I like him yeah what a dude oh he’s the man
That’s a hell of a recruiting pitch say you pitch or say you’re you’re pitching three days from now and you’re on the road do you have to go to the St even like get some work in before you go play or is it just hey this is your day go do
What you want no it’s usually in the mornings we’ll play so like that’s the only thing like golf you got to it’s like golf or sleep so you’re figuring out which one is which so like I’ve had some early wakeup calls um to play some like sick places but you try and figure
Out like all right do I have a bullpen that day cuz I got to get there a little bit earlier to warm up and do all that stuff but like if it’s a day like if I just pitched and I’m not throwing and I just had to do some recovery like you
Got a little bit more time to get to the field but yeah I mean outside of days before I pitch and day before I pitch and the day of like I’m I’ll try to play that’s sick what’s the best city your favorite City you go to for playing o um
Pittsburgh is a is a good one sneaky good one we played we haven’t played Oakmont yet they they’ve been closed last you want to feel real shitty about your game you that’s what I heard it’ll eat your my buddy that played for the Pirates was a good golf for he but plays
A big Slinger like left to right he played Oakmont and he was like he called me right he’s like dude I played out of my ass he was like I scrambled a 78 he was like it was the greatest day in my life yeah he had a yeah but if you can’t
Putt oh you can’t do anything dude you can’t hit it straight the rough sucks the greens are impossible like the whole it’s just and they keep it really that’s the cool thing is like from what I’m told I’ve only played it once but they keep it like tournament condition
Virtually the entire time they’re open so you get like the real look like they they say they can like host Us open on a week notice that’s crazy the place that I played where I really got my my laun in in terms of putting was Olympic Club
Ever played it got to be a good player to win around there ever played that that’s a little slap dick course I’ll say it so you know we’re going to get a self suck Char so you don’t have to do it I’ll do it for you
Cuz I’m a good partner Co one the O Sam there yeah sick hard and then they were talking about tearing it up and redoing it cuz place a piece of [ __ ] that place was badass that course is so fun dude oh and we had a cat this this is where I
Knew I was in for it I was like the cat we had was this guy I want to say his name was Manny but I don’t hold me to it he’d been there like 40 years and he’s like I’ve been here 40 years I still don’t know how every p in this corporate
Like I was like what he’s like yeah he’s like the just all this stuff that gets into it he’s like if you don’t hit the right speed on the right line he’s like the grain he’s like it’s just going to eat you alive and I checked the
Scorecard I was like yeah holy [ __ ] they kicked my teeth in out here and short and you look at and it’s 6975 but FR zero I figur that’s the city you would have said just cuz there’s so much good golf yeah that’s a that’s another good one I mean what else do you
Play up there um we played Olympic club we played cow club club a sick sick yeah love Cal Club prido is like a small like little spot like that that was the first time I played golf in San Francisco we couldn’t we didn’t have anyone that
Could swing like one of the big ones yet so we went and played prido and that’s like a cool like little like funky track to you’re like all right you got to play like you got to be solid out there so there I mean we have so many guys that
Have connection that have played around so like we kind of piece it together throughout the year so it’s like there’s there’s some solid spots we’ve got in the play when you go out and you bring your sticks and I’m assuming there’s other pitchers on the staff that go out
And play with you or somebody’s ain’t going out by yourself what are the other play what do the field players think are these like these [ __ ] guys they work one every five days they get to play golf like they’re the biggest pansies yeah they they’re like oh how was golf
Today like oh I can’t IM they’re stretching and [ __ ] lifting they’re like I’m on game 140 of 141 and you’re like I’m like yeah sorry man you should have been a pitcher sorry you should have been yeah when I was a kid I like I
Had no idea all my brothers cuz I played both when I was a kid like all the way until College they were like that was it like no more playing the field and my brother’s friends were like you want to be a pitcher I’m like why it’s boring
You play one every five days they’re like you’re going to get to a point in your career hopefully where you go thanks for telling me to be a pitcher paid a lot you get paid the most one out of five days play some golf golf you get
All the glory yeah so like it’s no it’s it’s sick what do you think as a player when you see like what the Dodgers are doing right now I know you hate the Dodgers but like sh Otani they’re signing all these guys they’re basically trying to buy a World Series but Shi
$700 million mean what do that I I’ll tell you this I wasn’t shocked about Chi signing the Dodgers at all like to me I didn’t see him leaving our division it was either he was going to go there or like I had the Giants just being a dark
Horse like so I’m like I was prepared to face show how many other times he play them 13 so it’s like I was prepared to face him 50 times like you get four bats a game so yeah I would the number number is what shocked me was like I mean dude
Like seven holy [ __ ] I was like and they’re deferring like almost all of it right 680 of it it’s nice when you make whatever he makes off the field in year he doesn’t need it but you you can afford to do that yeah it’s like I I
Mean I respect it like he wants a win he wants good players around him so like you have to sacrifice some of those things it’s like but I think he’ll be all right with his off the field money so is he the guy if there’s one dude
That you just dread facing like [ __ ] like yeah fear might not be the right word but you’re like damn this could be like this is tough he’s up there he’s there’s there’s certain guys for sure that you have to like I’ll change my scouting approach a little bit just like
Just certain ways that I Avenues I got to be able to disguise pitches or set up you know different parts of the abat but like yeah he’s one of those guys is up there that lineup’s tough I mean mook’s tough Freddy’s tough like it it’s that
Line’s going to be a challenge for sure but I mean that’s what you want it’s like you want see how you stack up against those guys so yeah I mean he’s he’s a tough he’s a tough aat for sure he set a nice market for pitchers too
Granted he does other things but like hey he’s 700 you know what I mean what that make a fell like me I can’t hit 40 you got root for those contracts yeah I said he does a little something other than pitch too but yeah he pitches he’s
A freak man how with trout and him like were the Angel’s never better I just that just blows my mind I I don’t know because like they it wasn’t like they didn’t spend money either it’s like they were trying to bring guys in it’s just
Like I really don’t know it’s wild to me a culture thing I don’t I really don’t because I I don’t really know like I’ve had a couple guys play over there but like they were like the culture is great like they’re like otani’s great Trout’s great like all those guys are awesome
It’s just like I mean you got to worry about and they’re playing in the AL West so it’s like they got to worry about the Astros every year so it’s like I mean they’re not playing in a soft division not that any division’s soft but it’s
Like yeah I I think it’s going to go down as one of the biggest mysteries in like s like they didn’t play did they they didn’t play a playoff game they not Otani never play Trout’s played in one one or two playoff games’s never played a playoff game yeah damn nice short
Season gets paid a Grizz smart dude smartest dude I love that’s the way you look smartest dude in yeah dude he gets more time off and makes more money tell me who’s the dumb dumb um you’re New Jersey guy so was trout did you guys ever did you bump heads like coming up
No well we actually played for the same travel team Trout’s a couple years older than me but yeah we so trout was like the guy when we were kids so he’s like you heard about him from is he like one of those kids like you heard about a kid
From whatever town he’s from like theth his um our travel our the guy who ran our travel program it was his father who started it and then the son was our coach and then Trout’s coach he would do trout was on the 17s I think when we
Were 12 so we were the first like little league team he coached and we remember hearing about it they’re like yeah this kid Trout’s going to go in the first round like you kind of hear about him but you’re like not really because at 12 you’re like you what but like yeah we’d
Heard about him he’d be in the facility like working out and like then you start to hear these stories and like the first time I started to put it together he was like I’m going to to Trout’s draft party tonight or he was up in the MLB office
And we’re like huh he’s like he’s going to be a first-rounder like yeah and it was it’s cool and then he wound up coming back when was what my senior year we did like a signing day like thing or whatever and they retired his number he
Just won the Rookie of the Year the MVP I forget exactly what it was so he came back so got to talk to him a little little bit but I haven’t I haven’t crossed paths with him since like so I’m looking forward to like chopping up with
Him and kind of like yeah talking about like you know guys that like we grew up playing for and like just the area and stuff like that yeah I saw y both from New Jersey actually I’m good buddi with Justin Upton who played at the angels
And so they were on a road trip there in Minnesota the same time we were for 3m. he’s like hey come out and have drinks with trout and I Trout’s hurt he’s not playing I’m not playing yeah so I didn’t know what to expect like I mean this is
A superstar I don’t know he was so cool we had so much fun he loves golf it was I was blown away by how like just he’s just a normal dude that happens to be really freaking good at baseball yeah he’s just it sounds like
Very super down to earth guy like I mean it’s just yeah you hear nothing but good things and he’s designing a course right now with tiger up up in New Jersey he’s got his own course oh yeah that’s right yeah he apparently is a good golfer like
He’s play I’ve seen the top golf video of him sending it to the ozone have you played have you played Silver Leaf yeah okay so the 10th hole we’re out there playing me him and up the tenth hle is hard one up the hill towards the deal
He’s like what do I do here and I was like I’ll just hit like a two iron down there short of it because I mean he smashes it yeah and so we get up there he’s like why didn’t I just hit driver over the the ditch and I was like well I
Never played with a dude that can carry it 360 like why you handcuffing me you bum ass [ __ ] man I didn’t know like that was even possible yeah next time I’m just going to say hit it on the green dude his speed is absurd that top golf
Video went like crazy viral with him smack and by the way you can’t hit it hard with those clubs and those balls D down balls proper equipment a ball it’s a piece of [ __ ] both them he can hit it crooked obviously but when he catches it
My God it is stupid he’s a thick dude I mean he the freak I mean talk about freak athletes like freak athlete like and you sometimes you feel like the hitters like I think that’s even more impressive cuz like to be able to grind on your golf swing but then also wor
About your baseball swing too like we have a lot of guys that are like H I don’t I don’t play during the season cuz like hitters specifically that you know they’re like I just don’t want to mess with my swing it’s like totally opposite isn’t it I don’t know all the mechanics
Of the baseball swing but from what I hear they’re like no it’s not good for my baseball it’s not good for my swing yeah I’ve only played with a handful of guys maybe even one Carson Kelly who was our catcher here the last five or six years he’s a really good golfer he
Probably plays like a plus one and he’s about the only position player that would like was like legit and would like play like during this like during the season like but yeah a lot of guys tend to just go ah I’ll play in the offseason yeah makes sense for them I mean it’s
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And stuff the minor leagues you played in the minor leagues you played for one of the greatest teams New Orleans baby cakes unbelievable name should have never left I mean you did a good job for yourself but that’s a sick franch we’re going to get into some minor league
Names favor franch but New Orleans baby cakes is incredible give us you got any good minor league stories um well I I’ve been telling this story a lot lately because people I don’t I don’t know why but people have been like you played for the baby cakes so cool and I’m like yeah
I did I was there I spent begrudgingly too long there I wish I was not there very long like cuz you’re triple A you’re like I just want to get to the big leagues but we had this guy and I was never there but I’d heard about so
There was this in the in the big leagues all your gear travels with you like they put it right on the plane gets there in the minor leagues they have to ship it like in truck so like the truck would come pick it up and then take it to
Whatever City you were going to so they had this I think FedEx would deliver our stuff and this FedEx guy it was like on schedule every time we come pick up he’d be like baby cakes sounds like a softball team and like the clubbies would be like dude you told the same
Joke two weeks ago and they said the guy like every time we would come in be like yep oh softball team and he’s like and the guys like they would just get so tired of it and I heard about it I’m like yeah that’s tough but like I think
It’s the sickest name in the world so how long softball anything yeah is a good name yeah how long did you have to live how long were you in New Orleans so I was there all of 18 and then I was I got called up in June of 2019 so like
You know good how many every months that eight months out of the total two years yeah no like I feel like you either love New Orleans or you hate New Orleans I wasn’t the biggest fan like dirty the sun the Sun is hot like the summers are
Like you bake out there so there’s nowhere hotter in the world than that swamp there swamp heat Little Rock Arkansas is another place I played has been like so hot The Travelers yeah yeah yeah yep they got that like River lake or whatever out in right field and it’s
Like it almost like the humidity just comes right off of that and just sticks right on the field it’s like yeah that place is hot New Orleans the good thing about New Orleans being hot it’s like you don’t have to warm up like as soon as you go outside you’re like all right
I’m good to go like five minutes run around for a little bit yeah you’re good to go but all right so June 2019 did you have any idea the call was coming that you were going to get called up to the big leagues what was that moment like
When you finally achieved that dream yeah I was I was having a good year in in 19 like got off to a really good start and was like first month of the year I’m like all right it’s got to be coming soon and we had a meeting I
Remember in I think it was El Paso and the great place it’s a it’s a luxurious lifestyle that triple it’s actually sorry it’s so much like the mini tours dude yeah that’s like that’s why when I hear about guys playing Min like I’m very like like I I could feel like I
Have sympathy for those guys like It’s a Grind like it for like for sure it’s a grind so we were in actually we were in San Antonio manager comes in after the game and we just won so it’s weird to have like a a team meeting or whatever
He’s like all right team meeting he’s like we got somebody going up to the big leagues and I was like finally man this is like I’m going to the big leagues they call up another guy and everyone like kind of looked at me and they were like huh they’re like I mean they’re
Like how and after the fact they’re like how is that not you I was like I I don’t know I guess they you know there’s all kinds of different a picture yeah it was another picture oh [ __ ] yeah so it was like there’s stuff that goes to the
40-man roster and just kind of logistic stuff that like you know you come to find out the business side of it so I’m like all right whatever so I started getting calls from like my agent they’re like don’t do anything different like when guys like are having a good year
And they get passed over like guys want to start to change something and feel like oh I need to strike more guys out or I need to start throwing hard whatever they started calling they were like it was almost like every other day they’re like don’t do anything different
Like you’re good just stay where you’re at just just try and stay healthy like all right sounds good so come to the week before I got called up we were in El Paso and I get worried that another guy gets caught up in front of
Me and I’m like at this point I don’t know what else to do like do I need to get traded do I need like I don’t know how it works so I was I was pretty bitter about it um and I had some people probably still have the screenshot but I
I made a tweet about like I didn’t say anything all I just said was just LOL cuz like at that point I was pretty displeased about it so like to all the kids out there do not do not like TW when you’re em yeah when you’re emotional but like it was still very
Cryptic because people were like I was like oh it was about the airplane or whatever but like I was I was pretty fired up that I didn’t get called up and and the now the coaches start coming to me and they’re like hey we just want to
Make sure like you’re all right with the organization like we we see we see what we’re doing like just it was Logistics I kind of called [ __ ] on it but um I made a start in El Paso like two days later we go to Albuquerque New Mexico
And I’m on the plane and this was cool cuz I kind of I wanted it by surprise like I didn’t want it to be like oh like now is my time and they that that was really cool cuz I was on the plane I was watching this movie I think it’s called
Snatched or snatch like whatever and the manager comes up Keith Johnson comes Taps me on the shoulder and I my headphones in he’s like uh he says uh when you get off the plane you’re going to be a big leager so I take my headphones out I’m like what did you say
You saw the movie before like I thought he like I had no idea what he said he’s like when you get off this plane you’re going to go home you’re going to pack your bags you’re going to St Louis tomorrow I was like what so I sat there
For a whole hour no service like couldn’t tell my family just like sat on it and like it’s like a late night Night Flight and like my teammates are starting to kind of figure out what’s going on and they’re like looking at me like give me thumbs up and like yes so I
Sat there for an hour and then I got off the plane and all the guys were there and like kind of like give me hugs and like dab me up and and it was cool got home called my family at like 2:00 in the morning and I was like I’m going to
The big Lees I have a flight like 6:00 a.m. tomorrow and like they were all like I didn’t sleep I know my mom didn’t sleep like they were all trying to figure out how to get to St Louis and like yeah it was it was a pretty cool
Moment like everything that had kind of that was Sour before it like just made it all worth it that’s boys yeah going to the show yeah I was like oh finally I get out I get out of here like let’s see what the show’s like
I’m I’d ra I’d rather go play the El Paso Chihuahuas again yeah they probably had a sicker name though they actually no they’re chihuahuas are they I know they actually my wife’s from El Paso oh there we go it’s a sick Stadium their stadium is right in downtown it’s
Actually is nice it’s it’s a badass Stadium they did like they draw a good crowd like it’s a cool place to play it’s a bad place to pitch it is a jet stream to center field it’s tiny like like I got when I first got called up
AAA when like my first year they I got my licks in there I was like oo I don’t know about this this is ball jumps here like when you’re when you’re in Triple A and you’re like a guy that is expecting at some point in the near future to get
Called is it like game to game like if you get shelled in a game you’re like oh [ __ ] that just set me back two months yeah is it like that much game in game out or they just see like this kid’s going to be a big league or let’s get
Him up here I think yeah I think there can be I think it depends on like just body of work like if you had two months of just dominating and then you have a bad start they’re like all right they they would what I’ve heard is they would
Rather you have a little bit of failure and kind of see how you bounce back from that like they’re not going to necessarily you know oh he has one bad outing like oh he’s not ready for it like they would rather you have a bad
Outing and then go on like a string of like three or four more good starts but if you start the string the bad starts together and like okay maybe he needs a little more work I’m like just kind of learned there’s certain things that like they want to see usage in like certain
Pitches maybe like if you’re like he needs a third pitch or he needs a fourth pitch like is he using that a lot is he getting good success so like yes and no I think it relievers and starters a little bit different too um but yeah there’s there’s a lot more stuff that
Goes into it than just like yeah I didn’t know if it was like dayto day like you know that like a bad round with and he needs a couple more months or whatever you it’s definitely I think they like to see the failure like the bounce back from failure can you handle
It cuz I mean you’re going to get up to the big leagu and you’re going to have failure I mean it’s a game of failure so they won’t yeah all right take us through that you get the call you fly to St Louis how many days until you you
Started and what was the first start like yeah so I got up um I want to I feel like I got caught up on Wednesday got there on Wednesday and just kind of went through all like doing the media stuff got the play catch and then went
Home that night like they sent me cuz you’re not allow to be in The Dugout cuz you’re not technically I don’t know what the word is authorized or whatever yet to be in The Dugout so I went home got a good meal and then got to sleep and like
I mean you can’t sleep before like I mean I went to bed at like 2:00 in the like I tried as best I could turn the lights off off lay in bed and you’re just like sitting there kind of answering text messages and like I finally just fell asleep um and then
Pitched the next day on a Thursday and yeah my whole I had like 30 people come out like which was really cool cuz like that’s not an easy trip from Philadelphia like to Missouri like to get out there um and yeah I saw all my
Family before the game um but yeah it it was it was a blast like and I grew up a Cardinals fan I got drafted by the Cardinals so to get to play in Bush Stadium like I was like yeah this it it was it was awesome how’d the first one
Go it was solid I think I went like like five and a third five and 2/3 gave up like one run two runs what it was yeah it was and I got the I mean I played with all those guys like the the Cardinals guys like coming up in the
Minor league so it was cool to get to face them and kind of like see those guys and like still be able to share that day with guys that like I grinded with and you know aball and doublea and stuff like that but it was yeah it’s um
It’s cool I mean Bush Stadium I mean it’s a big Stadium but it looked 10 times bigger that day and that’s a fun that’s a sweet place to play or watch baseball it’s underrated Stadium it’s one of those places and I don’t know how it’s underrated but every time I go
There I’m like this is a cool like I find something new in the stadium like the backdrop or whatever like how many you know tear they have there and it’s like this this place is sick what’s the vibe like from the dudes on the team when like you’re the new kid you get
Called up you’re The Rook are they still is it like the old days like hey Rook carry my bags and stuff like that or they freeze you out in the locker room is there any of that or they just like embrace you yeah no they I will say I
Think it differs on the the organization like some guys just have like a super old kind of mentality and they they kind of do that a little bit I I didn’t really get crazy hazing um either either place like Miami or um here like Tory our manager here is like really wants
Everyone to feel comfortable and like you don’t want to do that like you still have some things where like veterans get a little bit more I don’t want to say preferential achievement but like just things like you’ve been in the game a while and like you’re just you know you
Get get certain things or whatever but like he’s very cool about like guys being comfortable like you’re not you don’t want to make anyone feel like they don’t belong um but yeah I mean you have to do all like the regular stuff like they make get up on the bus and you got
To tell stories or like sing and stuff like that so like they want to Haze you a little bit and like but it’s more about like just bringing you into the team and yeah exactly so yeah I didn’t have anything like that um but like did you
Sing I did what I sang Country Roads by John Denver that’s a good classic good my inv start from the top I had that earlier today somebody was like what’s what song you sing by heart and I was like I could sing country Ro I’m pretty
Sure I could I could I could do the whole thing and I was like but don’t put me on the spot like I can’t but where is it on the bus you got to do on the bus yeah you get up on the mic on there like
Cach f like it just sounds like [ __ ] no matter what exactly so it was like my thought was like all right I need to sing something cuz I wasn’t the I feel like I had gotten some like kind of tips from other guys like all right listen
You’re going to want to sing something that like everyone can kind of sing along to that way like as long as you’re doing a good job they’ll join in so like that was my thought I was like all right everyone knows this song like I could at
Least at least the the southern guys know the song so that was my thought so I did it and they said I did a good job which I was pumped about like yeah that’s a safe song yeah safe song but the guys who go like weigh out of their
Element and do something and kill it it’s like the bus goes or I know they like give you a song like you’re going to sing Britney Spears and you better try hard some do some like if you don’t have one like then guys pick them so
Like to you know any rookies out there like have a song like yeah I’ve heard there was a story I heard about a guy who had um he was going to do the Thong Song that was his song [ __ ] and that’s tough look yeah and he wore a thong every getaway
Day because he was going to take his like he like whatever he wore like I don’t know pants like whatever and they were somebody said to them like how’ you know you were going to sing that he’s like no I’ve been wearing this song all year just knowing that like so I don’t
Know just been waiting the waiting and and the person who was telling me was like said the bus erupted said it was like one of the best they’ve ever seen um so like guys like that I respect that I was just like I’m gonna stay in my
Little Lane right here um I know we both love hard knocks and they always have the rookie thing on on Hard Knocks Aiden hudon saying Michael Jackson I believe for the Lions and it was like unbelievable like he absolutely crushed it some of the guys are terrible but
Smart Choice make picking a song that everybody knows yeah and I had to do it twice I did it with the Marlins and that was my next you got to keep doing it even though you’re not a rook anymore well no so I I did it with the Marlins
Got caught up in June I did it like maybe the next trip or whatever it was I’m like all right cool and then I got traded like two months later to Arizona and I’m still a rookie like but I’m just on a new team and they’re like you got
To sing and I’m like all right I got one in my back pocket already like I already rehearsed this one tweaking my performance at this point all right yeah so I was I was good on that sense yeah that’s one thing like for golfers like you never know what it
Feels like to be traded yeah it’s like what’s it like when I mean I’m guessing you probably didn’t know it’s coming all of a sudden manager comes in he’s like hey bud um we’re shipping you somewhere else yeah both uh I’ve gotten traded in the offseason and I’ve gotten traded
During the season and both are like equally as as crazy because you’re not like neither did I see the one when I was in St Louis to Miami I was actually down in in Jupiter where the Cardinal spring training was and we had heard there was a trade that was going to
Happen and we and it was the Marlins and the Cardinals and it was going to be Marcel Ozuna and Sandy ALC Contra were like the two pieces that were known and then we had heard like there’s other pieces or whatever and I remember seeing the TV being like man that sucks for
Every he’s going to get traded not do I get traded two hours later as I touch down into the Charlotte a I had a connector touchdown I still have my phone not on like airplane mode and it starts to buzz and I’m like that’s weird
I look and it’s one of the guys from my agency I’m like that’s not a good sign so I let it go to voicemail I listen to it and he’s like hey I’m sure you heard the news already and I’m like huh he’s like this is going to be a good
Opportunity for you I get bunch of text Miss I check Twitter and my name is everywhere and it’s like you got traded all this stuff I’m like my mom calls me she’s like did you just get traded and I was like I think so I was like cuz the
Teams don’t call you like unless you’re like a a big- Time guy and it’s like hey we’ve been shopping you’re going to trade like if you’re a young guy M guy like they just how you find out it’s like Twitter or your agent yeah not even anyone from the club nope you like
Sometimes you you’ll from the team that that acquired you they’ll call you and say hey we’re really happy to have you like we’re excited all this stuff like but yeah you usually find from social media like no [ __ ] it’s not like hey you got a week it’s like well pack your [ __ ]
You don’t live here anymore yeah it’s like so that’s how it was when I got traded from the Marlins cuz like that was during the year like I pitched the night before so I come in and they’re like hey we we want to see in the office
And our pitching coach had been doing things where like he’d go over the start with you the night before so I’m like all right we’re just going to do that and then we started going to the manager’s office I was like this is weird I’m like the manager’s going to be
On the pitching me like that’s kind of odd so I’m sitting there and I started doing the math I was like [ __ ] I was like they’re sending me down like so I blacked out the first like two minutes of the meeting I’m like damn I’m like I
Pitched really well I’m like but I guess Pablo’s coming back so like he you know they need a spot or whatever I was like maybe I should just tune back in to see what this rest of this meeting is going about and they’re like so we really
Appreciate you like we’re we went ahead and made a move like you know we went and inquired another player and I was like wait hold on I’m getting traded for like 10 minutes of the meeting I had no idea where I was going thought you were
Going down yeah I was like oh sick at least I’m like well hopefully I at least go to the big leagues to the team I’m going to it’s finally at the end I’m like so where am I going like oh you’re going to Arizona I’m like all right cool
So that was at like 1:30 the media doesn’t come in 2:30 like you can’t say anything so like I was like the first to know in that instance I called my family called my agent I’m like hey I just got traded like what do I do and they’re
Like oh yeah you you’ll be in contact with the other team like the team is the team that traded You is kind of like all right you’re like their problem now like they’re going to handle all the logistics all that type of that’s a weird process that’s not how I would
Have envisioned it going and no matter what I would think no matter what you say and you love St Louis they gave your start and all that as a competitor like you never forget the teams that trade you and you want to kill them every time
You face them I would I would imagine 100% like more than anything yeah cuz you’re just like all right like you didn’t what whatever you didn’t see in me I’m going to show you now look at me yeah so it’s like it it’s for sure like
But now I’ve gotten to a point where like I I try to move off like I I always have it in the back of my head like the chip of my shoulder but it’s like all right I’m trying to accomplish something a little bigger now it’s not that small
Like whatever but yeah I’m I’m a vindictive bastard so seven dudes over for you too like no [ __ ] I was already there you made me move yeah so it’s I I I have perspective when it comes I mean not many times do guys get traded twice
Before they turn 24 yeah that’s wild but yeah I mean look you’re starter for the national league in the All-Star Game you start game one of the world series I mean shit’s going pretty good right now it’s it’s going solid and I I I I like
To think a lot of those things I I use as as fire like just kind of fuel the fire of like all right just remember the the the negative sides of what happened and like don’t you know don’t allow it to happen again so yeah I mean things
Are are going solid but there’s still work left to be done how Wild was this year because y’all were not a team that was picked to possibly go to the World Series and y’all shocked everyone made it they ended up losing to the Texas Rangers but still to make it to the
World Series I mean I’m guessing at the start of season that probably wasn’t you know that much on y’all’s mind maybe it was maybe it was the players it I mean it’s so it’s funny like every time the season starts like it starts z00 like everyone has that like thought of
Getting to the World Series and I mean I will say that we had that thought but at the same time like we really tried to assess our culture in the last couple years and like that was something that was like really big for us it was like
Let’s get our culture right we know we have the talent in this room that like we can be successful but like to I mean there’s definitely certain teams that go like yeah we’re circling the World Series ours was like let’s just try try and go out and play good baseball and
Like win baseball games and see what happens and we got off to a really good start in the first two months of the year I mean we’re leading the division for like I don’t know how long maybe a month and guys were like all right they
Started to have some belief and then I think kind of the because we’re a younger club house like we got just maybe ran out of gas a little bit going in the All-Star break and it was like all right we need to reassess like what’s going on here what’s what’s our
Problem what’s going on and like it just didn’t seem like we clicked at the right time like everything like where it was the bullpen starting pitching hitting like it all just kind of slumped at the same time and we were like all right we know how good we can be we’ve seen it
Like let’s just buy ourselves enough time to get into the playoffs and then as soon as we clinched it was like all right we’re here like we we did people didn’t expect us to go to playoffs anyway and it was like almost this freeing experience money exactly it was
Like we’re playing with house money and I was like let’s just see what happens man like we’re in like we’re in the playoffs now like we got to shot to win the World Series that’s why baseball I feel like maybe more so than any other sport compared to golf it’s like dude
Momentum is like you start getting confidence as a golfer like guy might have done nothing all year and then all of a sudden something clicks and he has a round then it’s another round it’s you’re like oh my God that’s a different dude it’s like the same thing I feel
Like with baseball when these teams get going they start going on these just crazy stretches where they’re just not losing and it’s like dude nothing changed except the juice in that locker room yeah I mean it’s it like it just you just start compounding all that
Stuff and it’s like and it’s you get the belief of like no I could do this like I’ve gotten that guy out in this situation like yeah we 100% we could do this like so and it’s I mean people talk about it’s like the the playoffs is like
It’s just who like you got to get hot at the right time like I mean you see teams that go in there on paper that are stacked and like they just tend to struggle at the end like whether they don’t have like the chip on their
Shoulder or whatever it is but like we just got hot at the right time like everything just clipped like our Bullpen went absolutely insane at the end of the year and it was like as a starter that makes your job so much much easier like
All right I just got to get six Innings or seven Innings and turn it to the end of like back end of the bullpen it’s like all right this is a win and like our offense is like we just have to get instead of being like all right we need
10 runs to win like we just need four we need five runs whatever it is and just trying and scratch across those runs and like yeah and then guys started to believe like all right we could do this like we went to Milwaukee and we wanted
We swept them and I was like all right we could do this and then go to the Dodgers and it’s like we’ve played in that environment before like we’ve seen that team so like not to say we were like comfortable but like we knew what to expect like in terms of the whole
Environment the team we played them and they kicked our teeth in like the last five times we played them and guys it was almost like we scored in that first inning the first game and guys were like all right we belong here like we could
Play and then it you just saw it like guys like they just yeah it’s it’s contagious like for sure tangible I want to know because I mean listen game one of the World Series you’re getting the ball and I’m sure you knew for a couple of days like you were getting Bol what
Was that night before like and then the morning waking up knowing like damn damn dude I’m about to be starting pitcher in the World Series yeah it’s it’s kind of w the whole playoff thing is weird like cuz you’re just you’re on edge mentally the entire time whether you’re not
Pitching at all like you’re just watching the game you’re like oh [ __ ] I’m on like if this ball Falls in this Homer like we could lose this game so like you’re I almost feel like not like I was walking around like a zombie but I just was like so like focused on
Everything that like I wasn’t really letting the external type of stuff effect and the the night before like I don’t really remember because the day the day before the World Series it’s a media day so you’re kind of moving around doing interviews doing all this
Stuff and like trying to find a time to get your throwing in and get your lift in or whatever it is you’re trying to do to get ready for the day the next day so the day before was just kind of like it almost worked out that I had so much
Going on and like I didn’t think about it it didn’t hit me honestly that I was pitching the World Series until I was on the bus going to the field and we had like a 10 motorcycle kind of cop like whatever whatever they call yeah police
Escort and I was like holy [ __ ] I’m going to pitching game one of the World Series like I’m like this is insane like it it really didn’t hit me until like 4 hours before the game and then like which I think is a is a I don’t know I
Was probably that’s probably beneficial was like all right you’re not sitting there thinking about it all the time like I I Tred to go through my routine and get my you know all my scouting and everything done I was like do it the same but at the same time like I have a
Trouble like I kind of a tendency to kind of not lean into those things so like I challenged myself throughout the playoffs was like lean into this like lean into the playoffs like don’t just be like a robot like trying the emotion part of it like you never know if you’ll
Get back so it’s was like all right I’m going to try and lean inside was like trying to allow those emotions to like you know come over me and yeah it was it was a awesome experience let me ask you a philosophical question because I think to be good pitching especially probably
Most closely mirrors the feelings of like a golfer an individual golfer you’re out there by yourself you got the ball it’s you versus a hitter nobody else matters if you do your job right and you have and more than anything you have tons of time to think tons of time
In between pitches same thing with a golfer he hits a shot he’s got to walk the whole time he’s just thinking so when you’re going to try to get at your best game one for of the World Series for instance like what do you do to try
To like lock in mentally can you can you feel things that you do differently when you’re at your best versus when you’re not for sure I’m I’m very um meticulous about like how I how my body feels like how the ball comes out of my hand like
I’m um like when I hear golfers talk about like how the club feels in their hand they can tell if are off like I I assimilate to that cuz I I could feel and like it’s almost sometimes maybe to a detriment that they’re like you’re
Feeling way too much um so like I can definitely know how that feels like I want to feel right cuz like if I can repeat my delivery and all those things the ball comes out of my hand the right way like I can go out there and
Basically throw the ball wherever I want to so when you’re not feeling that way like I try to just you know Resort back to like my process of like all right this is my routine of like things I need to do like all right I need to make sure
My warm-up routine is this I did my scouting here and like make sure I go out there and prepared with like the most information I can have that way it’s like all right now I’m just going to let my talent kind of take over essentially so it’s like try not to
Overcrowd your mind with a lot of stuff but like I’m definitely more cere on the cerebral side than like just go out and play so like I I I battle with that like trying to just play the game but then also like don’t forget like what kind of
Got you here in a sense so it’s interesting cuz that’s the only thing close to golfing I think yeah like for golf it’s like one day you go out you stripe it you got to do it again the next day and some days you just wake up
And you’re like God this feels terrible you ever had times on the M where it’s just like uh this could be a problem today yeah I like I battled this whole year like not feeling right and I don’t know if I got I don’t know if spoiled is
The right word but like the year before I’d went on such a run the last like two months of the year that I felt like incredible like it I could make the fix in a matter of two to three pitches like when I’m playing catch and I’m like all
Right I know the feel and I had a different queue like like a swing queue like a swing th I was like all right and I would go to the like our coach had like a whole entire sheet of list that I would give them like each day I play
Catch like all right I felt good nothing to write down or I didn’t feel great today but like when I thought about this yeah I got I got that right so this year I was kind of grinding like just trying to feel right but also going out there
To just like try and make pitches so it was like this year was a little bit more hard like it was harder mentally just like all right I don’t feel great but I still to go out there and make pitches um and like it that’s kind of where the
Detriment comes like cuz I could throw I could practice and throw forever and like your arm is not the healthiest thing to do that so like it’s kind of been a learning experience of like all right learning how to get better even though when you don’t feel great and
It’s like the same thing like like you said you’re out there striping the next day it’s like that’s where my feel comes in like I want to have that I want to know the the lane that I’m in and if I can kind of stay in the lane I can make
The adjustments easier so so it’s like yeah it’s it I could definitely over complicate it for sure that’s fascinating that’s just like a golfer they dude it’s like everyone’s great when they everything is when they’re clicking on all cylinders any dude can go out there and shoot 62 and you might
Never heard of them before but it’s like that hardly ever happens so what do you shoot when you feel like [ __ ] can you grind out of 69 70 and stay in the mix like and that’s crazy I mean you were what third and S Young last year and
Like I didn’t feel good for most of the year or whatever that’s wild that’s what people like that’s a test like that’s probably like when you’re at the next level I would say like throughout the year I was like I don’t feel great and they’re like you just went seven in get
One run what are you talking they’re almost like [ __ ] you like you’re being an [ __ ] I’m like no I’m Ser like I I and it’s probably because I know what it feels like so like I’ve like kind of just seen that like and and what it
Takes and like all that stuff and like maybe I’m wrong for trying to desire and get that feel again because like a lot of guys aren’t not feel like they’re not feel oriented so it’s like ah maybe I I don’t know so like yeah I’m kind of like
It it’s I don’t know I’m not I’m not spitting in the face of the baseball guyss being like no I wasn’t but it was like no I know what it feels like I know where it’s at and I’m like I’m grinding to get back to that cuz that’s what I
Know is like the next step if I can harness that and be able to do it 34 times a year it’s like all right we’re on this something here look what I mean look what Hideki just did Sunday at Riviera he got done and I know there was
A translator involved so it could have been a little mixed up but Amanda asked him like how did it feel like where you just in the zone he’s like I felt like I hit it like I shot three over like you just shot 62 dude yeah like how do sh
Wor record I would love to feel like that on the golf course I felt terrible and shot 62 I would love to be to say yeah I feel like I shot like three over like you shot a 93 what are you talking about that’s great that’s awesome stuff
Man I love that was fascinating I like that um let’s get to the E9 yeah let’s do it nine whatever goofy questions that we got for you all over the map we mixed this up the first question we asked everybody since you’re you’re a young fellow we’re GNA ask this who’s your
Celebrity crush my celebrity crush um o my girlfriend asked me this all the time and I’m like I I don’t when I was when I was a kid it was Selena Gomez now I think I’m on the Anna De armis train Anna De AR who is that
That a singer no she’s a she’s in she was in like Knives Out you see that movie I’m this up right now HT quickly we normally have computers out here now we have a new set and I know where to put a computer just in case someone
Lists was her last name de armis de armis she was let me see the spelling on this [ __ ] thing a r m I think show me this when you see it we’re this is this is a sign that we washed and old you’ll know another sign she was in a movie
With Ben Affleck too I think yeah Selena as a as a youngster when I was a kid like and my family yeah my family would give me [ __ ] they like oh there’s Selena she’s like when she started dating Justin Bieber like can you compete with that I was like no I can’t Ian
Just this up later I those DM after this thing I think Selena listens to this [ __ ] no so yeah I I don’t s to girlfriend we not we’re not trying to break it up sorry honey but yeah I Selena yeah I was I don’t really have
One she’s like who I’m like I I don’t know like I kind of just so that’s been my like default answer that’s my my go-to did you find her no I’ll work on it bus I can’t spell yeah that was that was by way the pronunciation wasn’t the
Arm it’s D little e it’s the South Jersey let me see a r m i s yeah big a yeah r m i s say again r no Anna d e and then a r m I think it is D oh yeah it’s my A’s they’re bad this looks more you
Not a locked in on it the first one I was like some like 54y old lady from oh is this lady oh dude look this is a look at our new found oh you got a type oh yeah as I was saying I was like maybe I but you want
To hang out sometime okay thanks for that Mark I don’t know who this is but she’s now in the list yeah I love this new screen we can do this I we shout out producer Mark real quick for the quickness on I feel like Rogan right now hey pull the clip God we
Need to get wendam in here and have all his ex-girlfriends up there one time great we don’t have the bandwidth for that we don’t have the internet we got the shittiest internet all right good call on that all right uh celebrity CR all right here’s my next one as a UNC
Guy during your time at UNCC or you can do all time you can do lifetime too if you want we can do both all right the Duke basketball player you hated who like the hated Duke guy who was it um when I was there well what’s crazy is my
Fandom kind of I wouldn’t say dissipated as I got to UNCC but like I wasn’t like into the Rivalry as much and like I don’t know if people know this like the Duke UNC rivalry is like pretty much basketball only it’s a little bit for football and baseball but like more so
As a whole university it’s state like it’s NC State like that’s our rival in just about every other sport when I was a kid it was JJ reic like like that’s when I was there I think Austin Rivers was maybe there the year before I was
There so like that was probably the guy a that was popular yeah that was that was the guy um everyone hates JJ reic yeah car I love JJ my favorite of all time and now I think he’s I like him even more yeah I think he’s sick on T he
Loves golf but it’s just so funny that every North Carolina like iuck hate dude he was the first dude like he was doing Steph is type stuff before St he was shooting from play him and um um uh the dude from BYU uh Jimmer forette dude they were shooting from places around
The same time too there I was like what are we this is video game [ __ ] he was he’s so good that’s why you hate him that’s why like that’s why people don’t like lner cuz he was so good you don’t hate the shitty guys you love him we
Don’t know who that guy is who cares and then Grace n was another guy that he might yeah he’s just easy and now he’s a phoenix guy you proba run I yeah I won’t but we won’t tell him when he comes on he’s coming on next no I’m
Kidding you can tell him he came after I that g [ __ ] hates you no yeah I mean I don’t know all right next one um I’ve heard before each start your routine is rather detailed give me a little idea of what your routine is like leading into a
Start did you actually hear this yeah who’s your source CH I say they’re everywhere dude I’m curious we got ears we got boots in this town only because I’m I’m curious cuz some people might know how detailed is somebody like oh he’s just very meticulous okay well this
Sounds bad because I don’t know if he’s still a part of the team but Mark Reed all right yeah so yeah Reed would know for sure he would yeah I playl reer is awesome I play golf with reer um told me a little about it too yeah so all right
So my the routine has kind of evolved over the years but I’ll get to the field say we played 640 our home games here I try and get to the field 4 hours before soon as I get to the field I shower I trim my beard cuz you’re
Playing on TV you got like your beard got be led up proper I uh wash my hair shampoo make sure it looks right and people like this guy what’s wrong with this guy what a vain B but trust me I had a in 21 after Co we
All just decid we’re going to grow our hair out and I saw pictures of my hair and I was like what the f what was I doing out there like someone didn’t stop me so now I’m like wash my hair make sure I look presentable on National
Television when we’re playing on TV I do that um then I’ll go in I’ll get my scouting done I’ll finish the rest of the scouting I’ll sit in the in the food room I 95% of the time I sit in the same seat I’ll eat um finish my scouting
About same meal no I well it started to gravitate towards um the people that we have cook for us cooking on wood they’re awesome the guy Franco he’s he knows I love his burritos so he’s like you want a burrito and I’m like yeah sure I’ll
Eat a burrito but like I tend to not ask him all the time so I’m like I feel bad I’m like I’ll eat just whatever’s out here so he makes a burrito I usually eat the burrito um and then I’ll probably finish so 6:40 I get out on the field at
6 o’clock I need an hour to like warm up so like I try to start my warmup process at about 5:00 and then I’ll go through like whatever my different warm-ups are like get my arm ready get my legs ready um make sure I have the scouting stuff
Send it to our guy I can put it on the iPad that I have it um and then just go out and start playing catch I’ll play catch from 6 to 6:15 610 6:15 go out and get on the mound then try and walk in by like 6:30
635 so yeah it’s it’s the I will say this year I was like damn I was like this showering and trimming my beard is like just getting like it’s getting monotonous at the I was like I need to figure it out but like it just started
To become part of my routine and I try not to like I want my warmup process and my routine to be so stream like I want no like um superstitions like I I I was so superstitious as a kid like like oh I pitch Bo I I put my right sock on right
And it’s like that just clouds me mentally and I’d rather just like I know what I’m going to do and this is like I wear the same I wear it the shirt I wear when I don’t pitch four out of five days a week and and I have a different shirt
This is probably about the only super siss thing I do is that I wear this gray like Nike shirt when I pitch like so that’s yeah it’s I love the trim the beard before every start you someone do it I do it yeah I do it yeah but it’s
Funny like I’m going to get into some more Superstition things but like athletes we had Dan Marley on and I played golf with him I was like dude this [ __ ] guy sucks inside out then he comes in here I’m like this guy’s socks he left socks inside out this is
Just so weird to me I was like damn did you know your socks inside he oh yeah doing it for like 25 years he goes had a blister one time trainer told me to turn my sock inside out a little more cushion scored like 40 done it ever since so he
Does it in everyday life now he plays golf his socks inside out he only wears the same socks it’s all the Jordan socks like the little low ones that just cover the ankle with the Jordan on it one’s inside out and one’s not and he does it
Every single day all he does is play golf that’s routine I’m that that’s out of super that’s a routine thing it’s like this is what you got to do I respect that I mean that’s crazy Co yeah he like snuck in while he was sleeping
And put it on right side up he loses [ __ ] he wouldn’t be able to break a h 100 the next that’s true yeah if you if you can’t function with it like I I do I will like going on the superstitious thing like there’s certain things that
I’ll notice that I’ll do like two starts in a row and I’ll I’ll pitch good and I’ll find myself going all right well I wore those cleats last time I pitched well but I really want to wear these cleats and I’m like no no I got to wear
The cleats I don’t like that I’m not gravitating I need to break the Superstition it’s like like I wore I wore a snakes skin belt this year with our like Serpent’s uniform and I was like man I really need to pitch well with these things if I get shelled them
It’s going to look like [ __ ] and it like thankfully it worked and then I was like all right now I need I don’t want a pitch like [ __ ] but I was like I need I need one that’s like doesn’t go like great it’s like all right good now I
Could just disassociate with the whole thing and like all right now I it’s yeah it’s as a baseball player you get Super S so I try to break any of those I can yeah cuz as soon as it like if you’re in a situation where you don’t have it it’s
Like you’re mentally done yeah they suck actually yeah like I used to have a golf ball thing and I was like dude I don’t have fours it’s over can’t play good with threes yeah I hated it yeah it’s it’s tough I mean I wear like I do wear
The same like undershirt like stuff like that but that’s like a and I will freak if I don’t have it but I could pitch without it it just like I would just rather I have it but it’s well while we’re on this let me just go to the the
Next one because I’m fascinated by this give me one of your teammates or just someone you’ve heard about the craziest Superstition they have um oh man the craziest baseball dudes are the most too guys are yeah I mean I had a team in college that like pitched well and I
Forget what the meal was like chicken and rice or Chipotle or something like that oh no you know what it was he did eat he he ate the same meal but I could I could say that’s like a routine thing guys like to eat the same meal just cuz
Like mentally you digest it well whatever it is but this guy pitched well and had left a spoon up on the counter like from whatever he was eating I know cereal whatever and just left it and shoved that night and then every night since that he pitched he left it like
The night before out on the thing so I was like that’s a little odd like trying to remember that’s the spoon is what did it yeah exactly it’s like when you’re a kid and they’re like oh put your spoon on your pillow like for snow it’s like
I’m like I don’t know so yeah that’s the craziest one that I’ve heard someone goes flips that up he gets shelled gets crushed yeah you don’t kill everyone who moved my spoon yeah who touched my spoon I love the superstitions like we had Derrick Anderson I mean his was
Unbelievable like he would pick everyone up they’d play the same song put like you said left sock on first then right I mean this everything I had that in high school it was that’s that’s when I started to be like all right I can’t do this you’ll be OCD like you
Flip the light switch three times before you can leave a room dude you can’t exist anymore at some point if you keep going you’ll talk yourself into playing bad too exactly like oh I didn’t I didn’t like I I did it like I had the same Force I remember exactly when it
Was it was in my junior high school in South Jersey they have this B this big tournament called The Diamond Classic and it’s when all like the public schools and private schools you kind of qualify for the for the tournament or whatever and we were going to play the
Semi-final I think it was or the championship I forget what and the four songs that played before like they ended at the perfect time as soon as I got on the bus and I went out and played well and we won and I was like six like every
Time I pitch I’m going to play it so I would try and time it up to where when the song was over I could get out and it was like that’s when I was like and then I didn’t do it I pitched like [ __ ] I was
Like that’s not right and then I timed it up and I’m like like I can’t do this anymore like I had look myself in the mirror be like I can’t it’s just not going to work it’s hard hard thing to break it’s hard to break to break away
From that um I’ll give you one along those same lines I guess before I get into a couple different ones give me best prank you’ve either been a part of or seen in like a major league Dugout oh um the gum on the hat is like a is a
Standard the one from Carolina you had a good one in car who is the dude in the background dancing I [ __ ] love that guy Taylor S he was he was moving bro I’ll give you some insight in the back of that so yeah we um we had played
South Carolina the year the a couple weeks before and Utah Jones was a a freshman infielder that year and he did our coach was getting interviewed and he did this Banana Phone thing which was hilarious like the timing of it was awesome and I don’t know if he meant to
Do it that way but they got the whole thing so that kind of went like semi viral and our coach was kind of like a straight edge type person he doesn’t like any mess around but we were throttling South line so he was like all right whatever it’s cool so come the
Couple weeks later I’m getting interviewed by ESPN we played Notre Dame and he makes a joke like all right all you like guys who are going to do the video bomb like whatever make sure you got your best material ready and the kids were like oh that means we’re
Allowed to like we could do it like all right cool so for like 4 hours they were deciding what they were going to do behind me my good buddy JB who was a sophomore that year he was in the rotation with me he’s like hey let me
Put a piece of gum on this top of your hat I’m like all right sounds good whatever and then sure enough the three freshman in the back Taylor sug Logan Welch and Utah Jones went nuts and Taylor Su did the whole dancing thing his hat fell off he was like a campus
Celebrity for like the rest of the year the local news came and they were doing this whole entire thing for like a week and then at that point our coach was like enough we got to stop we have to cut this out it’s getting too much of a
Distraction so yeah he was he back when like he went viral he gained like it’s so like lame to say but like he gained like 2,000 followers like overnight like they were letting him into the bars when he was like young like maybe they were letting him in the
Bars I don’t know but I’ll show it to you after we get done dude this kid’s going wild what’s that what’s he do now is he still playing I don’t think he’s still playing he was playing he was he was trying to but I I haven’t seen him
Since but yeah he he had good stuff was a freshman yeah just dealing right behind his interview it’s good and it it pops up like it was going like every year I would get like 10 notifications people like oh look at this video and I play with teammates that were like I’ve
Watched this video so many times and they’re like I had no idea that it was you and I’m like it says my name at the bottom I’m not watching me I’m the watching yeah yeah it was good he could dance and people loved it like sh was
Nice yeah it was it was I like that kid tell him I said I like him next time I see him let him tell him I’m a fan all right next one I’m guessing I’m not the only one but when you hear Zach gallon you kind of think Zack galanakis a
Little bit which incredible show Between Two Ferns unbelievable okay if you were going to have your own show what would it be called uh uh I I don’t I don’t know next to one Fern maybe I don’t know yeah I don’t between two fans you could be fans for
Fanning dudes yeah cuz you fan batters that would be solid I actually like Big Ass Fans I I mean if you guys anyone else they would probably something to do with milk I don’t know Milkman I know dude a couple gallons where’s the Milkman come from that so that started
When I was at UNC too like all this comes back to UNC I guess I don’t know um apparently there was a guy this guy Turner walson who did our TV sometimes he would fill on on TV he would do like he would like the car commentator or
Whatever and he started calling me the Milkman and like I just always assumed it was cuz my last name was like gallon of milk I’m like all right cool yeah is it not no I come come to find out a couple years after like I was talking I
Don’t know if my mom or him or whoever it was they were like no he he’s saying that cuz he’s like the Milkman always delivers so he was it was almost like a good thing he was like you pitch in a big spot like you come up when we need
You and I’m like all right solid so like cool didn’t gain any traction till I got here and then people started I don’t know where they found it out like they were when I was in Miami they were calling me bman cuz I got stung by a bee
One time in a game yeah and that’s a [ __ ] name brutal IDI aren’t creative down there it was so rude I was like they’re like you like bem man I’m like that I got cuz I got stung by a bee like all right cool everybody’s got stung by a bee yeah but
It was I did throw the hardest pitch in my entire career so like oh he’s got like it’s like Spider-Man but B man I don’t know but then thek man thing somehow caught traction here and I was trying to put it off as best I could and
Then I’d said that Casey r you know PR guy I’m like dude if they’re going to call me like let’s just lean into it so we did some stuff with like the Arizona Milk producers last year and like you can’t stop a moving train once it happen
Like it that’s an endorsement waiting to happen all right so it’s like a double on Tandra kind of like double meaning gallon of milk and also you always deliver yeah all right I still think you should have a show someday bman is a [ __ ] and have Zack galanakis on it I would love
That’s solid you’re always fan of people have big those those fans that sit on the ground like you know when you don’t have AC I was think the box fans I was thinking big ones at like the golf like the industrial blow on the greens yeah and just make it super uncomfortable
Yeah that’s a good point a little loud yeah that’s a good point scream at each other we’ll work on that that could be the whole show what and the show ends you don’t even ask a question it’s 30 seconds long yeah all right thanks dude uh all right my next one I’m
You need to have seen the movie Summer catch I’m assuming you have okay are the house moms in the actual Cape Cod league as as friendly and accommodating as they are in the movie Summer good question uh if so the greatest League Of All Times
Yeah so I actually wanted to play in the cap because of that movie you played for that team right I did yeah sick sadly enough you find out that the field that they filmed it at is not actually the field that you so I got there I was like
This isn’t the field like where where’s the movie feel that where’s Jessica exactly I was like there wasn’t any Jessica Beals back then [ __ ] league but I will say the houses are very much like the houses that you see in the movie it’s like oh these people are they
Got some money there’s some wealth up here um I the house moms were to my knowledge were not as friendly as the movie your house mom’s at least my mine were they were they were very um sweet ladies um they they they Bend ever backwards for you that’s that’s really
What made sounds like they are s like they’re just like they do that the host families are what make that league go it’s the people are are they’re awesome the families I mean they open up their house to like you know kids like college kids and like they come in they love the
League I had a I put up there two years I had a blast I met some of my best friends I have for the rest of my life I mean the coach just texted me like not too long ago like I still stay in contact with him um sick but to my
Knowledge no the house moms were not at least to me I disappointing to hear movie Cape Cod moms if you’re listening need to yeah pump those numbers up rookie numbers in this racket I was always like dude I should played baseball go to Cape Cod League Jessica
Beel runs around also if that doesn’t work out yeah crazy moms everywhere you’re sad to find out there Target Rich environment no Jessica Beals the sunny Hannah amater of golf yeah it was different at that I’m talking about yeah um all right last one name me like obviously all the hitters have walkup
Songs one that when it plays gets you going on the mound um um o I’m trying to think who has good ones the one I can remember back from college was this Outfitter from Miami had Trophies by Drake right when it first came out and they had a good sound
System so that would bump I think his name was Dale Cary played outfield for them um yeah it was that one it’s a solid one so when I hear that one it’s solid um anything Little Wayne like like I mean right above it is solid like yeah
I’m I’m trying to think there’s a guys have a lot of good ones but the the classic like Drake like good ones are usually fire me up I can tell you the sound system at y’all Stadium works it sounds like bottle blonde on steroids
During the it’s so I mean I I’m feel so old say I’m like oh my God this is so loud that was because so I we had kind of talked to them and they’re like it’s kind of like a Morgan here like it’s a little like it’s light and we’re like
Can we turn it up and then we had like got a taste of R medicine it was like getting crackly and it was like didn’t sound good they’re like you guys want loud we’re like yeah we kind of made our bed we got kind of lying it now the
World Series it was we got a new sound system though so hopefully it’s like sounds clearer and they don’t have to turn it up like insane to hear it but we had kind of been on the like the I don’t I don’t know what you call that not the
Front office but like we were like list the energy in here we need to get a like yeah guys you know you could hear that you can’t you can hear the people talking in the crowd over your walk up song which isn’t what you want you want
Like you want to get fired up you want a hitter to come up in a big spot and like their walk out song is going crazy I used to live in Dallas and Elvis Andress was a good friend and we had this beer
Pong bet that if I won I got to pick his walkup song for a week and he bitched out and wouldn’t let me do it after I won I know I just going to pick just random things I’m a Barbie girl I would never bet that that’s a
Great bet that’s a great bet that’s a balls whatever you had to put up to counter that is it to be I can’t remember I knew I wasn’t going to lose so it was fine that’s fair for for free yeah you can C clean my golf balls great but uh that’s a good
Bet I’ve had my walk out for since hiop College yeah I’ve had Lil Wayne I’ve had let the be build since I was a freshman in college so I will not change it like and it’s great cuz like every year guys like oh what should I do I need
Something sick and I’m like same one as last year just write it down so you know where it’s at until we play golf and then we gamble on it I can tell you we could gamble on just about anything else and that’s probably the one thing I want
It’s an Ode to my brother it’s his favorite song so like it’s kind of like a yeah it’s kind of like our thing so it’s okay well maybe one of your teammates we’ll get them to bet that with me that’s fine yeah see we got yeah we’ll pick some we’ll play with wind
We’ll let him pick one yeah it’d be soft as [ __ ] all right my last one this is I’m fascinated by this let’s say you’re not this is this assumes you’re not the starting pitcher at the time bench clearing brawl breaks out [ __ ] freefor all what’s the protocol
As a pitcher during a bench cing ball situation like you got to show up for your boys I would think in some capacity but in real life you’re like I I want yeah number one on any so how do you do it do not get hurt yeah that’s like the
One thing like I’m not I’m not talking [ __ ] but you know Archie yeah Archie Bradley Archie got hurt during a a bench clearing brawl this year I’m like what are you what are you doing he’s the type of dude I feel like that wants to get in
That you know what I mean like he’s not going to be able to sit in the outside he okay he didn’t even get hurt in the brawl he got hurt falling over the the railing oh just get into the I love you but like just get into the bra dude you
Got to get you got to at least get there if you get hurt in the bra that’s one thing but when I saw him I actually saw him on the allstar break and I was like what are you doing he’s like I got hurt
Do I’m like what do you mean so I had to go back and look at on Twitter and he’s like I’m like Arie what are you doing so number one don’t get hurt like that’s that’s the one thing ultimately like you’re just really trying to break it up
Like that’s that’s the thing you got to be out there for your boys but like don’t get hurt and you got to have your head on a swivel don’t get sucker punched I think it’s like find the other pitches from the other team and like both of you pretend to like pull each
Other off like dude if it wasn’t for you I’d be busting heads usually you get guys that like you have guys on your team that know the guy on the other team that’s like in the thick of it and then like they kind of try to separate it but
I’ve only been in three in my career and funny enough the first two happened I was with the Marlins we’re playing the Dbacks four days before I got traded guy Christian Walker wears a pitch on the elbow from this guy Tron Guerrero on a team we threw like 103 so it was like
Didn’t feel good yeah we clear I’m like oh [ __ ] this is first brawl like awesome nothing really happens you kind of just like everyone’s you know whatever a little bit of pushing do I get traded four days later we’re in a bench clearing ball like not a week later I’m
Like damn the dbx is scrap all year like like all right I guess I mean the Raiders I guess and then yeah and then we had one with the Dodgers a couple years ago but like I’ve never been in one that’s been like have you ever been
You’ve never been on the mound for one like you hit a dude and it started no cuz like I don’t I think DIY yeah that’s dicey they’re getting away from that they tell you they’re like listen like a lot of the infielders like just give us
Time to get there like cuz like we don’t want yeah so like but I’m not a huge fan of like hitting guys’ retaliation like I’d rather just strike you out like then put you on bass and you punch your dude and break your hand like that’s a
Problem I mean had grank he got hurt a couple years ago he like broke his collar bone like it can only go sideways like unless you just land like a Haymaker and then you like noan Ryan Robin Ventura exactly yeah Texas Legend wailing it just [ __ ] just come on
With come bring your bat with you that’s the best part he just drops his glove like come on let’s see what you got and just like almost like your little brother yeah dude it like it like a nugie but a Punch Yeah it’s like I got you it’s like that’s Country Strong
Right there yeah that’s old man [ __ ] yeah I love it man well that was a lot of fun [ __ ] awesome congrats on a great year thank you keep it rolling and uh let’s te it up soon yeah for sure thanks for having me we’ll have you back dud appreciate you absolutely thanks
Yeah all right s that was a fun one man we’ve done a lot of interviews that’s up there with one of my favorites Zach gallon is an absolute stud and I’m a fan from right now huge fan I got to meet him and hang out with him a good bit at
The Phoenix open this year like you would never know even when I walked out I didn’t know like honestly who he was like oh dude that’s Zack G like he’s completely under the radar was as nice as they come uh loves golf wanted to come on the show he like yeah dude let’s
Do it in person he’s like right now is a great time you know before they get get cracking in spring training but dude he’s about as good a dude as they come and he said dude like three times in six words yeah he’s a dude he’s a bro you
Know what I mean um and his golf game is awesome like for a golfer nine times or a nine handicap but he I loved hearing about how they still I thought it was kind of like an old school thing where guys would get to play on the road if
You’re like a Maddox a glavin like that level of guy but they still get out on the road said 95 being a pitcher in baseball is one of the best gigs in the world you said 95% of the time he’s got the clubs when when they are on the road
So loves loves to play I love that he said he kind of is a fan of maxom but he’s a Dodger fan so that kind of puts him a little bit further down the list but got to play some golf with him he’s he’s a great dude man had so much and to
Wear number 23 at North Carolina that’s a that’s a bold play I know it’s baseball but still that’s a legendary number around Chapel Hill I thought it would take like permission from MJ and then I they got retired in basketball like if you just want to wear Carolina
Blue and 23 like we need to make sure MJ’s on board but um he’s one of the guys that could get it and I cannot wait to get to New Orleans to pick me up a New Orleans baby cakes hat the minor league baseball teams need to run
Marketing for every new that like Liv should have been like hey you guys come up with some sweet names you know what I mean there’s so many good ones so many good ones but hope y’all enjoyed that man that was a lot of fun for us and
Best of luck to Zach and the diamond back hope they finish second to the Rangers again again again I know you’re a huge you’re such a huge Ranger guy who’s that SEC who’s that short stop they got it used to be Andre I don’t know who it is anymore yeah shout out
Rangers oh it’s uh Cory oh Cory good ball player no he’s a stud Cory Seager there you go is that the short stop you could literally name anyone $350 million there you go also a good G and he was the MVP all right well that was it was
The MVP of the World Series all right that was a lot of fun um let’s get to some picks this week you actually took Jake Napp as a dark hor how about it last week how about it how much you make on it h dude I don’t you don’t you don’t
Kiss and tell you know what I mean yeah all right well let’s get to the cognizant now you’re you love stopping grounds Bud my my deceased body is still there left side of 11 Fairway hate this place cold shivers every time I watch it PGA
National used to be the Honda one of the longest tenur sponsorships on the PGA tour but now the cognizant U really good field down there Roy maroy teeing it up Justin Thomas among others um as the favorite I’m gonna go guy is’s a little further 35 to one so you get some nice
Value after Rory it drops a lot yes but you got to guy that has top 10 the last two times he’s teed up at PGA National he’s my brother from another mother actually got we got paired with him at the Phoenix open on Saturday and Sunday
Give me Big Shane Lowry Big Shane okay came close almost got this thing Mother Nature kind of jumped up bit him in the ass absolutely host in couple years ago so shout out Shane Lowry that’ be a popular one all right I’m going a little further down the board as well I’m going
30 to1 but I got a guy sneaky playing some of the best most consistent golf on the PJ tour three top 10s and a top 20 in his last five starts just seems like he plays well every single week that he’s going out there cat is a friend of
The program he’s a friend of the program JT Poston me post Tyre James Tyrie is the official that’s the government name his first miscut in ages was actually here at the WM Phoenix Open where they missed by a shot but good news is he bounced back and got himself a top 10
Out the Genesis good time to play got to enjoy himself as he should he did in the festivities love JT’s game and it it’s so great talking to Fleer about him he’s like my guy he’s been catting for him I think three years now he goes he’s
Gotten so much better at golf in this off season it’s I think I believe he’s ninth on the FedEx right now he’s rolling it’s Sneaky like no one brings his name up with in terms of like who’s having a great year this year but he’s just playing good every single week very
Quietly all right my Dark Horse I’m gonna go go with a guy that nobody puts it better than him he’s played well here in the past I think he missed the cut here last year which is a little bit of a problem but you got to hit it in the
Fairway at p DJ National you got to hoop a lot of par putts because golf freaking hard [ __ ] and not many do that better than Denny McCarthy who’s going off at 60 to1 rolls The Rock his time is coming we’ve been saying it for a long time my
Dark horse is kind of of the same mold it’s going off at 55 to one uh similar to JT playing really consistently well this year last five events two top 10 two top 20s he’s a really straight driver and he is one of the best iron
Players in golf Tom hogy come on down 55 oh you’re frog see I’m going completely biased Tom hogy all right I like it well it’s going to be a lot of fun to watch I can’t wait to see the cognizant out PJ National it’s just weird calling it that
I should always want to call it the Honda but it’s a fun Golf Course to watch because there’s a damn train wreck around every corner it’s terrifying I mean you can shoot 65 and you can shoot 85 really quickly around there and also best of luck to Anthony Kim this week
Good to see him back 12 years wish you the best of luck my man hope you play really well down there all right sleves well that was a lot of fun that’s going to do it for us we’ll talk to you on next week subpar Sh
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I am now a fan. Not between 2 fans.
He never said where he plays in Pittsburgh. Would’ve liked to hear.
Great show Thanks guys
are you guys in jeddah for AK or what!?
we need toxic intrusive live stream of him for the entire 3 days
awesome episode. huge party foul not knowing ana de armas though
Colt – what happened to the “hello world” intro?