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[Applause] [Applause] N we’ve had questions about the Phillies and now we’ve got answers spring training kick started with answers to many lingering questions for many of us around Philly’s fan base and US covering the team welcome to phy Philly’s podcast Tyler zulie Jamie Lynch Renee Washington we’ll have our very own John Foley
Joining us live from down in clearw to give us an update on things in spring training I see Chris lemmer congratulations number one first comment here in the book books you win the day Chris uh will Mickey Dave happy Thursday everybody happy day two I feel like we
Should also start a countdown for how many days into spring training R happy no no I don’t think we happy day too spring training guys 42 days until opening day and the most exciting things in my opinion were that we got to see here and it feels like we can now
Finally feel the essence of what the 2024 season’s going to be for the Phillies because between Thompson and Zack Wheeler and different comments that have come out things that John has been updating us on a lot of answers that we got in the last 24 hours since we last
Joined you guys so let’s dive right into it because we’ve got plenty to talk about today on this Thursday and we’ve been doing a good job if you’ve noticed being around that hour mark and today should be the same all right let’s start things off now we had Rob Thompson’s press conference
Yesterday uh John FY did a great job recording it if you missed it you can watch it back on YouTube on our YouTube YouTube channel uh where he’s sharing a lot of nuggets and information he’s talking about the lineup he’s talking about Zach yoro Marsh he’s getting into
The new faces the new guys um you know I think the top things that jumped out at me that I took away from it and we’ll talk more specific about Zach because uh he had some comments of his own is that overall the the whole feeling around
This group is he was mentioning it feels like a college team where everybody’s coming in they’ve got you know they’ve got the high they’re excited they’re you know looking forward to competing they’ve got the chemistry the continuities there and without having the WBC that’s a big part of this start
Of of spring training uh that the first day was just learning how much they’ve been working in the off season and getting back to work and really easing in that they really kind of want them at 75% in this first week especially as pitches and catches have reported before
The rest of the team gets there before they fully Go full throttle Jamie yeah Rob Thompson even said like this is one of the three weeks of the year that kind of makes me nervous because uh you know the intensity level goes up they go from
You know soft toss into to hard toss in and uh as they ramp up here in Camp he basically was like just don’t have any injuries this week and I consider that a win you know there’s not a whole lot of positions up for grabs here we’ll get
Into some of the names in free agency and the latest rumors with all those but oh yeah I I took away from it like he believes he has a really good baseball team and after last year and losing Reese and having Ranger injured to start the year and having all those
WBC uh guys affected by it he just wants to have an easy first week of camp where nobody gets injured uh and that would be a big success so it appears that’s what he was most nervous about was just guys hurting their arms yeah and I liked what
He was saying he just he’s always calm cool and collected very mild mannered um I know also in the chat you guys are mentioning our new setup here yes we do have some new our very own logo a little thumbs up for that new logo huh yes
Because I’m glad you noticed I wasn’t going to say it I had to wait till you guys point it out and in the chat I did see um will as you were the first person I saw to make a comment about it of course they’re commenting on Jamie and
Your Starbucks it’s not Starbucks it’s a small business today oh it’s not Starbucks it’s ma it’s a little uh French be there guys now he’s supporting small businesses that’s a win all right there you go so it’s not Starbucks everybody it’s a small business that J supp girls were driving me crazy today
We were a little late out the door didn’t get my coffee had to come right from school you know yeah one of those days yeah definitely don’t drink too much we I’ve done a good job I think you would even give it to me I will give you
Credit Jamie I will you know if we were doing a count up from how many times you’ve done well with making your own Starbucks I mean your own coffee I know it’s impressive Prett good pretty good and the fact that you have continued it into February and instead of just like
Dropping the ball one week into 2024 you’re you’re man this year you know you’ve changed so much from last year I’m very impressed all right I don’t even recognize myself I know I don’t I don’t recognize you Jamie don’t know who this guy is guys uh and thank you for
The comments again on the phy words that we have here you get to see our logo in 3D all right so as you mentioned the health of the team has been something that Rob talked about with that he also was mentioning different guys Ranger he said looked really good he mentioned
That Aaron Nola is just aarin Nola you know he was asked about how Aon Nola has come into things he’s like listen regardless how much Nola’s being paid uh he actually made a little comment which I chuckled at too uh that he was like I was like is this some personality that
We’re getting from Rob he’s like Nola feels like a million bucks like haha he gave a little laugh after but he said no he’s great that Nola is someone he never changes he’s always going to bring you the same Aon Nola regardless if it’s spring training playoffs regardless how
Much he’s being paid uh regardless of situation so Aaron noas come back back in as the also mild mannered arinola and then uh some other quick things before we get into the biggest parts of what he was mentioning he was talking about outside the five starters who else he
Mened mentioned Colby Allard he said Nick Nelson’s looked very good he said Buchanan who we just got back um he mentioned has been able to bring that professionalism he’s smart he knows how to pitch he’s got a decent arm he’s got experience and Robin he doesn’t think
He’s going to scare easy so positives there and then even for Spencer who we saw uh Spencer to turnbull’s contract get officially done Rob alluded to that in the press conference mentioning Spencer should have his deal locked in today and he did as of yesterday the Phillies did agree to terms on a
Contract Jamie this is exciting news on a contract for Spencer Turnbull and to make room for Turnbull they had to uh DFA McKinley Moore so Spencer right now um sitting pretty locked in with a whole contract wow guys there’s the exciting news but no the exciting news comes
Around we’ll start with yoro and Brandon Mars before we get to the biggest part Zack Wheeler so when ask about yo AKA Yan roas I was a little disappointed I didn’t hear any yo mention yeah seem I don’t know what’s happening guys because guess they didn’t get the memo they
Forgot there were a lot of times that it would have been seamless to just drop in yo instead of saying Yan or roas or Johan just yo it but okay it’s fine it’s still it’s happening you’re trying um we’re we’re doing we’re doing so when asked about Johan roas specifically um
You know he was asked about the pressure and if he feels like Johan roas is going to be able to deliver and the plan there offensively and he was saying essentially at the end of the day one there’s a lot of free agents out there
Um so if if Johan roas isn’t able to step up offensively we’ll tackle that when when we get to it he said all overall yo has done a lot of work in the off season in the waight room and he’s been working a lot with Kevin long on
His swing mechanics his just ability to stay back instead of jumping at the ball ball and letting the ball travel to see it a bit longer and be able to react efficiently and he said in terms of pressure Jamie yo went from doublea to the big league so he’s not feeling like
Yo is going to have any pressure and if anything he’s going to be motivated by this opportunity to lock in a starting spot for the Phillies yeah I think uh you know it it went well with him until it didn’t um and he looked over matched
In the playoffs but he stepped right up pretty seamlessly I mean his first game he made like an incredible double play up against the wall right center and I think got on base so like I don’t think he was scared by the moment but I think playoffs are a different animal uh it’s
Good Spin Zone here it’s good that he got the experience out of the way and that’s over with and hopefully he ascends to playoff uh Roos this year and and looks like a Major League hitter because he was an automatic out and I think that’s why people are a little
Nervous about just giving him the job uh but what I liked out of Rob Thompson was he didn’t like hide from it or say like oh no we have confidence and we have guys that can step up behind them the question was what are you going to do if
Roas doesn’t hit and he goes there’s a lot of good free agents out there yep uh I like hearing that um because I think that means they’ll be aggressive if they have to be uh I think they’ll probably make you know not that you’re going to see a
Ton of roas in the next week the full team doesn’t even report to next week uh but he is there I saw him walk in the facility today with st uh and a couple others uh but they know like we’re on the doorstep of contending so I don’t
Think they’re going to let some spring training struggles stand in their way of potentially bringing in that vet or more consistent insurance policy um so I liked hearing that answer from Rob he didn’t he didn’t hide or skirt from it he he just said yeah we’ll go get somebody yeah that answer was
Accountability that was being realistic that was understanding like you mentioned we’re not going to be fluffy and give you all the um you know softball answers of like oh if he’s not doing well we’re just we’re not even thinking about that Christian P like n
We if he’s not doing well there’s a lot of free agents out there and essentially if he can’t get it done we’ll find somebody else that can get it done so I like that from Rob if you’re pcha you’re probably going like yo Rob what about me
What F man I’m right here but I like it because you’re putting the pressure on this is a group that he was mentioning there’s not a lot of available spots for for guys to win but they are holding the bar high and holding the expectations there uh also as you guys are trickling
In I see Brian Dawn uh Philly Insider what’s up guys hit that thumbs up while you’re here uh Dave you had a dream last night about Joe Buck saying if only the Phillies signed Bellinger they would have pulled this 2024 World Series out that sounds like more of a nightmare
Than a dream um but you know you could have kept that to yourself that’s an interesting very very interesting dream that you’ve had um and then also Philly Insider saying roas you like roas a lot pitch recognition and plate discipline is just going to take time need to give
Um get him those game reps and yeah I think as you mentioned Jamie him having a chance last year to kind of get the Jitters out and work through a half a season now you get a full season you get a spring training that should definitely look different for him uh what also
Looks different Brandon Marsh now uh as we know we randomly heard Brandon Marsh had his procedure as he had to get some things cleaned up in his in his knee and Rob Thompson was saying that Brandon Marsh has done well of course the procedure went well but he’s been on a
Machine that’s allowing him to take the weight off of him so he can walk and also still on the same timeline so encouraging there that after having his procedure he will be game ready in three to four weeks he’s been walking he was walking almost immediately after the
Cleanup and the procedure was overall helpful for Brandon Marsh so as talking about the health of the team starting spring training Brandon Marsh was that small question mark we had but as of now he’s on Pace to get back all right now the most important piece that were all
Very interested in before uh we get into the interesting funny comment I let you Jamie talk about after wheeler is when asked about Zach Wheeler’s extension now many of us as we’ve talked about in the show and I’m sure as you guys have all talked about feel as though the
Extension has been the priority being that the Phillies haven’t made any major major moves Rob did say he actually likes the moves they’ve been making the depth the pieces that they’ve added around the edges he feels good about it he feels confident about it I was like
Okay Rob y that sounds great and all uh but when I asked about Zach wheeler he was mentioning how you know he doesn’t Focus too much on it his his job is to focus on Zach wheer the pitcher not the negotiations and the contract and everything around it and that Zach is
Just such a big part of the organization and ball club that they everybody loves him there and that uh you know they he doesn’t think it’s going to affect him now when Zach wheeler was asked about everything uh he also mentioned that he and the team are in contact uh contract
Negotiations regarding an extension there’s a positive and then also you know hopefully the deal does happen he loves it here he’s happy here and as we know wheeler will make uh 23 and a half million this season in the final year of his contract he’s been speculated to um
That number to go up to about 40 million if the contract extension does happen so for wheeler some positives there that the contract negotiations are happening and he of course most importantly loves to hear and wants to be here Jamie yeah I mean I think we have Mrs uh Zack
Wheeler to thank for uh you know a lot of his love of the Philadelphia area being from Central Jersey and you know having a third kid on the way and having his wife’s family around as somebody with young children uh I can tell you that having a grandparent assistance is literally
Invaluable um so I you know I think that’s beneficial here it’s one of those things when you hear oh a guy wants to go back home and REE Hoskins wants to go to San Diego because he’s family there you know Seattle’s hopeful they can get Blake snow because he’s from up that way
Whatever it is like that stuff does matter and you know not always does the price tag get it done but it’s great to hear Zach wheeler say I want to be here I think it’s unavoidable now you know boster Ali has said like it’s G to
Happen it’s just a matter of when you know wheeler himself dumbrowski so now it’s just the negotiation game and I think it was Howard esin out of Clearwater today said he’s heard that wheeler is looking for north of 40 million so he’s pretty much going to be
Looking I would think for that uh Max sherzer Justin Verlander type of deal where you get like 42 43 million over a short term um you know three foure deal type of thing and Zack Wheeler’s now what 35 I think he’s going to be this
Year 33 34 maybe I think he’s going to turn 34 this year so you don’t want to go like you don’t want to go that long with them you know you want that short-term deal and to get those short-term deals you you have to go hire
Aav so uh you know if if that’s the price of doing business Zack Wheeler is undoubtedly one of the best pitchers in the game uh he’s shown you in the history of the game uh with uh playoff baseball I think it’s minimum of I forget the Innings pitched whatever the
The criteria is he’s one of the best in the history of baseball um pay the man is money yeah like end of story just get it done uh you know even if you negotiate and save yourself what say 2 million a year over three or four years you’re talking about
$8 million just just sign the guy exactly it’s that easy so it’ll get done it it appears and I think that’s the good part of what came out of yesterday Zack Willer didn’t hide from it he just said yeah you know my direct deposit hit it up yep Chris Miller hypothetical man Dave
P definitely been some time pitchers and catchers are there also the small camp across the street is is there and so Rob mentioned there are jobs available the first goal is to stay healthy um of course then there are some Bullpen Jobs still available they they’re looking to
See what happens on the Pike and depending on um the future the reason why they intentionally brought in a smaller camp this year is because there is the mini camp right across the street where they could pull extra players from and there’s a lot of free agents and so
You know Rob did say we’re not talking about the big names but there are some relievers and starters available it’s weirder than most years and there’s a lot of flux signings and you know DFAS happening so the thought process for the Phillies was to go in small instead of
Having 65 guys that you’re bringing in spring training going small and then you can always add and build but Jamie put your Rob hat on because this is a comment that I know I’m GNA let you read and talk about uh because when I heard this I was like I know Jaime’s High
School inner high school boy is somewhere chuckling at this Rob what feels different this year than last year I think Rob would probably want to rephrase this and take this one back a little bit Renee I guess you know me pretty well that I absolutely chuckled
At this as I read it on Twitter yesterday um the quote was they are motivated we’ve had two years of tasting it they want it they want to take a big chunk of it and swallow it I think there’s other ways to say they really want to win a World Series
Uh if I had my my guest Rob would probably want to do a take two on that comment or maybe I’m just perpetually 11 years old in my head it’s one of the two um I have a feeling it’s more the uh the Rob would want that one back but you
Know I if I’m perpetually 11 Renee it wouldn’t be the first time in life somebody’s told me that yeah I I heard that and I was like oh and then it just kept getting worse you know he was it was a really good question because
This is the same Core Group this year as last year and the question of like what’s been different about this start of spring trading versus last year and a bunch of he was started off with like a bunch of guys are in their motivated I was like oh great start very talented oh
Great start two years of tasting it and then it just like that’s fine if you just end it right there like it could have stopped there but then it got worse chunks and swallowing and eating things and I was like what is happening here yeah said it all with the straight face
Because that’s Rob Thompson for well because he’s not 11 years old I guess he’s an adult and can say things like that and um not chuckle apparently I cannot you and I literally was like oh oh there’s some people Jamie out there that are definitely laughing at this so
Yeah there’s a lot of us children out there very interesting Dan guys yeah very interesting um but it’s been a good start for spring training and it has me very exced excited for us to get down there because as you know we’ll be down there ourselves look we got the spring
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Glove okay we’ll see shoess Jam’s coming to Clear Water shoess Jamie will be thriving in Clear Water flip flops all week I do not plan on putting shoes on at all interviewing players managers they’re gonna get these toes oh they’re getting them toes they’re getting those toes it’s Florida man Jamie’s been
Wearing sneakers a lot lately I don’t know what’s happening days yeah I don’t know who you are you know you like you mentioned you’re a changed person I and socks and sneakers I don’t even are you a sockless sneaker person uh if it didn’t stink the sneakers up I would be
E but it really stinks the sneakers there’s only one right answer and that’s never like you always have to wear socks with sneakers that’s not true unless I have like my yard shoes I don’t wear socks with but I keep those down in the garage yeah for women they’re not Nik
Airads they’re more like small sneakers like not my Nikes that I’m wearing today cuz I am also in sneakers but we have like little slip on sneakers you don’t wear socks with those but like you wouldn’t you have to wear socks my yard shoes have gone socks lless For eight or nine years okay but yeah I feel like around the yard’s different I always walk around the yard even just Barefoot like you don’t need to follow any rules there yeah it’s your yard but my my uh my emo shoes you know like the
The the the van looking ones the black ones with the the white Souls those type of shoes the California standard issue sneaker that every every everybody has out there yes amazing you go to California and it’s just Vans you don’t wear socks with those that’s that’s a
Yeah Vans are a good point like Vans or I know I seen in the chat spies like those types of shoes you don’t wear socks I don’t I’m not into the boat shoes I’m a good I like a good boat shoe I don’t think I like them but I don’t I
My feet sweat in them and I don’t like there’s no ventilation like they’re too hot for bare feet okay okay I get that fop guys it’s almost time to Jason Kelsey we’re like this with the flipflop literally you are Jason Kelsey because I could see you every yeah I’m the
Hairless Jason Kelce that’s the nicest thing anybody’s everever said I actually I yeah I I was watching Jason walking in the flipflops I’m like wow Jamie is that you um basically the same person you know all right so there are a couple other things that came out around the
Phillies um and then we’ll move on to some updates around possible future Phillies that’s right so first things first let’s get this out the way Jeff Hoffman had wanted to be known this is a different Jeff Hoffman yesterday’s number is not today’s number Jeff Hoffman will not be rocking number 68
Over the years in his career he’s had various numbers between youth High School co uh College playing professionally number 34 of course with the Phillies he was 68 his social media handle Jeff Hoffman 23 is the number that we’re getting back he’s rocking Cincinnati Reds number 23 he also was 23
In the ccbl years ago with the Hawks and the bison and all the different teams he’s played with so I looked at this and I was like you know what I don’t take this as us getting Red’s Jeff Hoffman in 2024 I take this as us getting 2023
Hofman with 23 but also embracing his inner goat in Lebron uh did you just say that to trigger me no LeBron is my goat and I knew you were going to I knew I didn’t 23 is not LeBron 23 is LeBron that’s literally his number and he’s the goat and it could
Also be Michael Jordan I hope you’re trolling me I’m not trolling you I’ve had this debate several times 23 is my goat yes he is lit he literally number 23 there’s one 23 there there’s just one that number has been worned by many people two of them are goats LeBron wears six he’s
All S I know I know he’s worn 23 but he currently wears there’s 123 in one okay the greatest of all Jumpman Jumpman Jumpman Michael Jordan there’s no other 23 uh King James no erroneous throw it out I I don’t want to see you go down
This path on the internet I have I already fought this fight I’ve already fought this fight many many times because LeBron James in my opinion is the greatest of all time in for basketball I think there’s an argument to be made for that and that’s a different story but we’re talking about
23 I know it’s Michael Jordan the greatest it’s LeBron so he’s embracing his inner Le I’m just gonna pretend you’re not saying the words that are you’re saying and we’re just gonna move on to the problem it’s funny because it’s funny because and we’ll move on because we have a lot
To get into so in our note she and I I saw you put this I saw you put MJ in there and I was like course LeBron I literally took to my own notes oh my God LeBron James so I I had to say that because you were ready to tee up a
Michael Jordan comment I’m ready to tee up a LeBron com short-term memory loss that past two minutes didn’t happen here’s my problem with Jeff Hoffman switching to 23 whenever I see somebody take the number 23 I go you better be good I don’t care what the sport is it’s
Just that number where if you put on two three on your back you better be effing good I see Tyler shaking his head this is my thought um kind of when I see Jordan golf shoes if you’re on the golf course and I have a buddy who’s not good
Enough to be wearing Jordans um when I see somebody like you if it’s a random that gets paired up with you and you see him walk up with Jordans on you go this guy better be [ __ ] good because there’s a certain swag about having 23 there’s a swag about wearing Jordan golf
Shoes like you got to bring it and if I see you step up and slice one into the woods on your first shot go you shouldn’t be wearing Jordans there’s a when you wear Jordan at a competitive level you have to be good and when you
Wear number 23 you have to be good so Jeff Hoffman you better be good this year because that’s a big number you just put on your back yeah because the greatest have all worn that number don’t we’ve already moved on we’re talking about Jeff off the greatest player is
Rock 23 that’s what it be listen in the chat I’m getting some I’m getting some interesting responses will listen the whole goat conversation we could easily go off the rails with because because Will Bill LeBron there so many people that you could consider in that conversation but
I’m just saying that okay Michael Jordan obviously made number 23 but I’m just saying the goat that he LeBron is not associated with 23 at all end of story he’s just rocking the goat’s number LeBron so I love you all I love you all if I’m not here tomorrow this is why uh
Breaking news Renee Washington has been removed from Jeff has we’ve come to the conclusion is every player in Philly’s history that’s wore the number 23 does not deserve the number 23 is trash yeah of course I will say no it’s not even like oh wow he was good
But he’s not a superstar this list nobody should touch it unless you’re good there are numbers in sports in all seriousness because you guys will always disagree on who’s goat in basketball but when it comes to numbers there are certain numbers for individual sports you don’t wear I see in the chat
Somebody mentioned like number 99 in hockey yeah like you don’t you don’t touch certain jerseys unless you’re Paulina who gets it tattooed on her growing area 99’s retired though you can’t wear 99 is it retired across the league yeah oh I didn’t know that across the league Mama Zam boner Tyler
Sometimes we miss these things but there are certain numbers it’s like I know in soccer technically number 10 is still out there but if you’re going to wear number 10 you can’t go soccer because but you have to be the number 10 like there are certain numbers for every
Sport we that number MJ did that across all sports to me I it’s not just basketball it’s number 23 if you rock it in football not that many people do you got to be good if you wear it in baseball you got to be good and I feel
Like nobody respects my personal belief that nobody else feels okay it’s okay because they don’t respect that and I just lost a lot of friends in the chat so it’s fine guys because it’s not the first time that I’ve said been on this hill myself pressure’s on buddy
Basically that’s all that I’m trying to say is the greatest of the greets have worn number 23 and if Jeff Hoffman’s gonna rock 23 be ready to back that thing up yeah well not that way just be good on the baseball field I don’t need to see you twerking out of the
Bullpen I was more hinting at the song but you how like Jojo Romero used to smash the Red Bull can maybe Jeff Hoffman just does like a Tor you’re we 23 you better back the thing up yeah I don’t think anybody really wants to see that not the just be good please you’re
Going to we Tyler do you have the list of 23s in front of you uh I did I can I can get it for you real quick I’m curious how bad it is now by the way somebody somebody said in the chat um oh hypothetical man said Bobby [ __ ] he wore
53 um he wore 23 I think with the Dodgers at one point but uh he was 53 with number three in while you’re looking up that list though number three in Philadelphia is that number two Dan it’s definitely getting that point for any any team in Philly if you’re going
To wear number three you’ve got to be ready to be Bryce har for level number three I level Chris Miller says Jordan War 45 when he came back in the midseason because they didn’t have the 23 ready there was some weird like Lo I’m goingon to give you the players that
Wore 23 since LeBron James entered the NBA uh we start 2003 Travis Chapman who Shawn Wooten oh I remember Sean Ryan Franklin how about this connection Renee Joe thirston who was my guest for yesterday Adam e Paul B Brian s Aaron alter Jay Bruce I I know we all remember Kyle
Garlic Archie Bradley Cory canable and most recently Cody Clemens I feel like maybe we shouldn’t have read this list because now it makes me very nervous Arie Bradley was okay maybe Jeff is going to change the trajectory of number 23 just saying you Gott you got to bring
Your A game when you R the two3 he’s just out there to write the wrongs it’s basically what’s happening all right um before we have John joining us in about 10 minutes from Clear Water he’s got if you have haven’t checked out all the great things John’s been doing on
Twitter he’s been posting out the lots of videos lots of updates um behind the scenes things that he’s giving you insight into so some other things on the Phillies Market specifically Matt galp did say that the Phillies remain open um according to team sources the short-term deals with unsigned free agents but it’s
Difficult to imagine certain markets collapsing to the point where the Phillies are major bids so speculating on the future Phillies that we could see brought in now of course we’ve talked about Jordan Montgomery we talked about Whit marfield we’ve talked about various names that are still out there um but as
Of recently as of like an hour ago Whit marfield specifically is allegedly getting closer to signing with a team now which team will that be we don’t know there’s been about four or five teams that’s names that were in the mix um but moving closer to a decision
Expected to sign by the end of the weekend John marosi reported so wh marfield by the end of the weekend are we getting news that he’s going to be a Philly yeah it could be as early as today you know Liam Hendricks and Whit marfield said maybe Thursday marfield
Well Hendricks is today marfield is more you know by Saturday uh up to five teams being interested now what this boils down to is uh our other teams able to offer full-time starting positions because the Phillies can’t really offer that per se but I would imagine because of his versatility they can probably
Average you know that three to four starts a week um plus if somebody gets injured he’s you know Prime candidate to take it over so I think they can make a competitive offer to him uh as we talked about yesterday his market value is about 6.4 million right According to
Some websites uh I think his versatility makes that a worthy investment because he kind of covers your base uh as injury insurance at center field left field second base Third Base uh in a real bind probably you don’t want them playing short but at first base so like
More than half of your defensive positions it’s an insurance policy it’s A6 and a half million dollar insurance policy I think it makes a lot of sense for them but then again there’s the Jordan Montgomery thing right and if they’re interested in Jordan Montgomery that probably means they won’t be
Getting that type of guy yeah so part of the hold up for the Outfield piece specifically has been exactly as you just mentioned Jamie that the Phillies aren’t looking to bring in an outfielder that will be an everyday starter no you know the hope is it will be Nick yoro
Marsh and that you’ll have a center fielder or somebody that’s getting you know in the course of a week h a start here at one to two starts possibly three so that’s made it difficult because there are free agents such as a whip marfield that are probably looking to be
Either an everyday starter or just more starts than two to three per week so for whip marfield as a utility piece with him having that flexibility which you talked about yesterday on the show which you just mentioned does give him Extra Value because maybe it’s not you know
Just having one role but maybe his role varies day to day week to week depending on what’s happening with injuries or what’s needed strategically I like wh marfield uh you know for his age for his the fact he can give you solid at bats and just makes contact a strikeout rate
Uh decent and then overall the utility piece on the Fielding side but as you mentioned Jordan Montgomery’s name is still out there now there have been reports I know I saw um from others that from various people that Jordan Montgomery and the Rangers seem to be moving further and further AP Chris
Young yesterday at their press conference said Don’t expect us to bring back or sign anything of substance or Marquee name wise so I guess Jordan Montgomery got the door closed on him in Texas and that just is nothing but good news for the Phillies right and as Chris Young was
Mentioning the Rangers do have the highest payroll in their Club history and they already have exceeded the luxury tax threshold for a second straight season so they’re trying to cut back financially they’re also not looking to spend Jordan Montgomery’s price point has been the issue for teams definitely with the Rangers of course
They were still waiting for the details of their TV deal that finally got resolved but it’s not great either um from what I’ve heard now the Rangers being out doesn’t make the Phillies an automatic shoe in but the Phillies do have interest as Todd’s like was reporting reporting on Jordan Montgomery
For only like a one to twoyear deal other teams have been such as like the Red Sox but I don’t know what the Red Sox are doing because now apparently they’re open to a Kenley Jansen trade but reluctant to pay any of his salary there’s a lot going on up in Boston who
Knows what’s happening up in Boston um and there’s been some other teams like the Giants and the angels I believe were team that were tied with Montgomery either way the Phillies baseballwise make absolutely the most sense if you’re Jordan Montgomery you’re coming off of winning a title you want to get back to
The World Series you’re not doing that with the Red Sox well that or I mean this is where it boils down to is winning addictive and do you want to you know cost yourself some money to go win or do you want just the largest salary
Exactly um because if he goes to the Angels or Giants we know he’s not winning any titles there so he would probably be following the bag as the kids say whereas if you come to Philadelphia maybe you don’t get as much as those more desperate teams are
Willing to offer but you get you know let’s say they give them a one-year $33 million offer mhm you have a pretty damn good shot to win a World Series so I think you’ll find out a little bit about Jordan Montgomery here with this decision uh Alex
Spyer excuse me if I got that name wrong Boston Globe uh baseball reporter speculated that Montgomery uh is kind of finding the market collapsing on them and uh they’re kind of gearing up to take a short-term deal Todd zi says the Phillies have interest in a short-term deal it does
Seem like there’s kind of a lot of smoke here with Jordan Montgomery and if this becomes the late um Market collapse to you uh signing that the Phillies are able to pull off I think people are going to get uh pretty irrational because you’re already one of the best
Rotations in baseball if not the best I think fangraphs had them number one uh if you add this to that and make Christopher Sanchez or Taiwan Walker your sixth starter then it just bumps everybody down you have insurance protection you don’t have to stress the
Guys out that much in April May and June you can kind of take it easy on them you don’t have to there’s not as much pressure to go late in games there’s so many benefits of strengthening your rotation like that I I’m starting to really kind of like lowkey bang on the
Table a little bit here like just go pay the man and get it done and and let’s get a rational I like it I like it I so to clarify the team it wasn’t the angels that was Blakes now that was connected to the angels it was the Red Sox Cubs
Giants and Yankees that have been teams that have been connected to Jordan Montgomery and of course the Phillies as well but either way um don’t want to see them with the Yankees apparently are favorites for snow according to most so if that’s the case then he’s gone and
Then the Red Sox like you know they’re listening to Kenley Jansen offers so like doing a whole lot of nothing are they going to do it it’s kind of dwindling down to the Phillies I think have a lot of life in this I think when
You look at this group and we’re not in every conversation the Phillies do make the most sense and as you mentioned the market is dropping for Montgomery but for everybody that’s a free agent right now the roof is caving in and you want to take the best deal possible now as
You mentioned it does come down to and I like that you just smoothly use the bag look at you Jamie um would you rather go after the bag or would you rather go after you know less money and you might be a world ser if I already got a World
Series ring I’m probably looking to get the bag he’s 31 years old he’s already won um you know he’s already yeah for that reason take pressure off I I’ve won give me my money okay I would probably chase the bag a little bit Yeah interesting I mean if you have a chance
To set up like your grandkids for life and you’ve already won I don’t want to say you’re not competitive but like yeah I mean somebody’s giving me $10 million more than the other team that’s the thing is a is a chance to win a World Series worth $10 million cuz it’s still
Just a chance and that’s is the thing there’s no guarantee you’re winning the World Series give me the money there is a guarantee you’re getting that money and honestly it seems like what the Phillies would be able to offer is more around that 25 million and Jordan mon
G’s been around 30 million as reports have indicated so if you’re going for the bag it wouldn’t be the Phillies but we’ll see what happens because definitely as Chris Young is mentioning with the Rangers being out of it um and then the Red Sox just being a whole lot
Of mess and Chaos going on around whatever is happening with Kenley Jansen and trade talks and everything else uh the Phillies are still sitting there waiting sitting pretty all right you know who else is sitting waiting our very own John Foley I know mbdb dbf Mickey Dan the hypothetical man Dave you
All have been waiting eagerly to see the updates from clearw it’s Foy music it’s John Foley and it’s not is sunny today down in Clear Water your day is looking a little bit more like ours we are having some issues here with the audio for John uh we’ll get we’ll get
Him squared away in a second but John is giving us a live look in I know in the chat I saw some people mentioning earlier how he’s been doing a good job of just sharing insight and he has if you haven’t check out our Twitter phore Phillies um also on our YouTube channel
Of Phi Sports we’re dropping full videos there as as well that you are able to uh you know see press conferences behind the scenes Bullpen sessions he’s been there just as much as he landed when the pitchers and catchers got there guys he was down there day one on the 13th and
He’s got his write up on the website on all PHL why.com observations from day one uh you know it was great to see yeah there we go what’s UPN oh and it looks like it had sunnier since you fixed it yeah it’s been it’s been uh a little
Cloudy here but uh there’s enough Sun I still got to wear my state trooper glasses I know they were popular yesterday so state trooper John Foley reporting for Duty well John you’ve been doing a great job with your coverage in the start of day one for spring training you know the
Press conferences the conversations that you were a part of you know can you give us an update as we’re now into day two because I am yes keeping track of spring training of what you’ve seen so far in day two so day two the formal program
Like day one uh pitchers they they make their way from sort of they do their sort of lighter throwing and stretching they make their way to the bullpen area that we looked at yesterday the seven back and then following that uh the picturers in that particular group will
Make their way over here I don’t know if you can see it behind me um where they where they work on pickoff moves then then after that some strength training um and they pretty much follow the day uh early in the afternoon uh three four different groups of three pitchers each
Sort of making the way through through those rounds I would say the the biggest difference between day two and day one is just that there are more folks around um you may you may have seen Charlie manuels here uh a lot more broadcasters have showed up writers um so it it feels
Like a lot more activity but as far as the the formal regimen that the p and kers are going through same as yesterday I’m not sure if that’ll change much until the the full well the full Squad workout start Monday so um switch up yeah John one of the
Observations we all had immediately yesterday from your Bullpen footage was the starting pitchers were wearing their game jerseys not the spring training jerseys now apparently there’s been an MLB players Association complaint filed uh because for those that don’t know Nike and Fanatics are responsible for the jerseys this year and Nike across a
Lot of their Sports uh football and I believe uh hockey as well are going to this new Vapor technology uh let’s not sugarcoated it’s probably a cheaper way for them to produce jerseys and they can charge more uh at market cost but the players uh I know some Guardians players
Were complaining about the fit and that they felt weird do you know is that Poss possibly a reason why they were wearing them yesterday because that did jump out as strange yeah it is strange and you you definitely seen a lot of grumbling around the league about about these new
Jerseys um I want to make it clear that as much as we all like to hate on Fanatics this really seems to be more of a a Nike issue in that um they while fax is actually manufacturing the jerseys they’re just really a sort of subcontractor to Nike
And they have to do things actly Nike specifications so if we want to be mad at with someone it should be Nike you know they touted it touted the the new jerseys as more breathable and more Mo moisture wicking all that may or may not be true um but fans and players alike
Seem unhappy yeah I feel like they got George castan over at Nike running the show yeah it’s uh they’re look they’re not great so I I don’t know how much of a thing this is going to become whether there’s such unhappiness or you know um formal ways to go about uh about
Changing changing the jerseys bad because he was a little late in the game I would imagine we’re stuck with him at least for one season but we’ll see what happens but definitely a top topic of conversation around here yes exactly the the jerseys are not great um but John your coverage has been
Great so we appreciate all that you’ve been doing we know you just dropped an article as well uh that you that people can check out on our website at all.com John we’ll let you go we know you have plenty to get back to the sun is shining down there it looks like it’s
It’s peeking out a little bit um we see lots of great activity in the background so keep up all the Fantastic work and we’ll be checking in with you again uh hopefully tomorrow sounds good talk soon see you John all right you could hear a little
Bit of the wind whipping too it sounded like today was a lot windier uh good old Florida yeah go sorry guys you had windy weather and a slight overcast I feel like a meteorologist myself yeah the Jersey thing’s weird uh but it is something like apparently it’s gone
Before the Players Association a lot of players have said that they look cheap they feel weird uh on Sunday before the Super Bowl I actually met my buddy at a local dive bar for a quick beer and he was like oh I won this new Eagles jersey
At work uh for some League they did or something he’s like it’s this new Vapor technology Jersey and he goes honestly it feels really weird yeah he’s like don’t I don’t like it and he just brought that up randomly and I was like so interesting that’s weird and then
Monday you see all these pitches around baseball saying uh the fit in the shoulder and the back area is different and you know it’s you know I think it’s too late for this year but the fact it’s already in front of the Players Association is pretty interesting yeah I
Know people are dragging uh Fanatics Nike it is it is listen me and Michael Ruben go all the way back to a whole hug I think he thought thought I was somebody else but we shared a hug and in that moment I should have told him get these jerseys in order Michael Ruben
Yeah Mr Fanatics I know I know he hugged me guys he hugged me um that’s all I got to say positive about the fanatics but I will say uh Angels outfielder Taylor Ward actually was quoted saying how it looks like a rep replica it feels kind
Of like papery is the term that he said and he said it could be great when you’re out there sweating it may be breathable but I haven’t had that opportunity yet to try it out but from the looks of it it doesn’t look like a $50 Jersey and they don’t for the
Phillies specifically the biggest difference is that you can notice is the font is smaller smaller and so like the the back of the jerseys with their numbers as you could see various pictures from yesterday um it’s just a lot smaller but as you mentioned the actual feel of the jerseys is different
You know for players when you are out there playing and you’re sweating and you’ve got all these other things going on you want every once in a while because I remember uh Under Armour had the same issue back when I was playing with they rolled out these like new
Versions of jerseys and you know we were sponsored by Under Armour at the time and it was the same thing like those first waves of new material and everything typically takes a learning curve so I hope that they can get this straightened out this season because
It’d be a shame to have to have these players go through this for the entire season obviously they’re not wearing the same Jersey every game but you know if you have one specific Jersey that you hate and now you’re dreading it it’s just one thing on your mind you
Shouldn’t have to think about and plus your professional athletes they should be able to afford to pay for jerseys that are are going to feel good and make you feel good when you’re playing so IAM have say in it yeah that’s the teams might be complaining on behalf of the
Players and saying yeah our players are miserable in these can you look into this so should you know I don’t think anything’s going to happen this year but uh maybe maybe it gets tweaked for the future we’ll see we will see lots to keep an eye on all right so we are going
To get into our rankings of left fielders tomorrow uh we’ve already had a chance to rank our top five right fielders and center fielders on our previous episodes for this week so Monday we did right fielders yesterday for Wednesday we did center fielders and then tomorrow we will get into left
Fielders so if you haven’t had a chance to go check those out you can and let us know who you rank in your top five of course we have to get to guest That Swing apparently we have to get there uh but first just really quickly I know
Todd lucky put out a piece with his opening day roster best guesses that I just want to run through now he was saying much as we’ve been saying why not spring training is here it’s never too early to start thinking about opening day as we know it is just 42 days away
According to our countdown Jamie Jackie Robson your phone has you on the 42 day countdown as well I added everything to the countdown the other day family vacation a concert I’m going to Clear Water I put on there totally different it’s good to look ahead you know look it’s nice when
You use technology Jamie if only now you would use 27 days clear water PH no I’m not going to do that that’s crazy uh but we’re going to clear water in 27 days Tyler and wow I didn’t know that I’m going to the at banks in 149 days going
To Philly corated did you do that uh I think it just gave me the colors oh um Chicago Phillies at Cubs 138 days wow you’re such a countdown guy yeah I became a big countdown guy now it’s nice to look forward to something okay all right yeah well uh while we’re counting
Down 42 days you keep enjoying that countdown app got um opening day roster really quickly to run through for catchers no surprise there JT and and stubbies um yep stubbies Garrett stubs all right I’ll stop giving people nicknames whatever you guys are dragging me enough about LeBron and about my center fielder
Ranking so let me do something that won’t have you upset first baseman just Bryce Harper second baseman Bryson stot third baseman Alec bow and are Super Bowl takes I was reading like waiting for something that’s a surprise outfielders get this nck casianos Brandon Marsh Christian Pache
Yoro and Jake cave oh man spicy spicy DH Kyle schwarber bench utility Mr edmundo Sosa and then starting pitchers Nola uh wheeler Ranger I was going to come up with a nickname that’s why I had to pause sorry guys uh nola nola wheeler Ranger Sanchez and Walker and then the
Relievers Jose Alvarado Conor Brogden Dylan cvy S Anthony Jeff number 23 Hoffman Orion kirking Gregory stto and Matt strum so no surprises by any of those positions but it was a reminder of just you know what we can look forward to 42 days from now for opening day if
The roster were to stay as is yeah I think Dylan CV’s now a lock after yesterday’s mle more DFA uh he’s now you know dodged that bullet like five or six times so I think there’s a really good chance d cies on your opening day roster
Yeah yeah we’ll see if there are any other names that get added in um to the mix but for now that’s what we’ve got for opening day all right I’ve tried to put this off I even told Jamie I just feel like we have so many things to talk
About today we could have easily pushed guess that stands to another day because uh it’s my favorite game ever and I you know so sad con we do daily man all right so get escaping this sadly yesterday was was tough Cody Clemens was a tough yes um I’m I I’m gonna start
Just coming into this with my guesses of a right and a lefty before I even see the picture for these number 10 I got trust my gut the gut claiming today is is even more difficult than yesterday so don mopart I don’t know about more difficult
The Phillies and he did was factually he was a Philly I mean wait what is it the fanatic like what are you talking about factually he was a Philly this guy was a Philly may I don’t like the sound of this you might have to work with Chris
To give him some people I mean What’s happen here like like you know this guy it’s just doy he’s a guy wait wait wait wait oh no you know this guy so he was technically on the roster sure here’s your player oh boy oh no like what does that even mean I don’t
All right there’s a right arm guard is that the right is that a righty or a lefty I saw left first is the right foot for forward or the left foot forward is that left cheek or right cheek I think it’s a righty see I kind of feel
Like okay I could see ready right now it could be both though I see both it’s not a right it’s not a right okay Lefty it’s a right arm it’s a right arm guard wow oh it’s oh my and is that something on his right foot yeah it’s probably a right uh right
Foot guard too you say probably but you know so I’m going to take that as a yes Lefty um was it one of the guys you mentioned today in no NO3 guys okay so it is a lefty everybody that we have agreed on that’s all we’ve got
Um I feel like it can give us the decade Sean Ortiz is guessing Derek Hall I see Dave saying Milt Thompson we did Bry Harper already it’s not going to be mil Thompson I promise you that it’s 200 this person does look large it does look large uh 2006 to present
Day I’m not going to be able to yeah oh man Tyler what decade was this I have a feeling it was last year’s team was he recently with the Phillies yeah he was sometime in the last 18 years oh okay annoying Rod baras what I submitted I’m just
What oh my gosh I’m gonna come up with a random name again because why not I mean I don’t know if you can ever beat Joe thirston that was complete bust out because if you say it’s gonna be this if Tyler thinks it’s as difficult it’s got
To be someone we’re not thinking of at all and John’s got some good footage while you’re uh delaying over there’s Bullpen session Joe thirst played 18 games for the Phillies well you also said this guy is someone that like technically I’m G you know what maybe
I’ll go J with again you’re saying this guy technically played with the Phillies but kind of didn’t reene you got one minute oh no I don’t like this okay I submitt feel like it’s a big guy yeah Jamie’s answer is in what been in yes what do you feel confident about your
Answer I’d say 5050 okay I’m G to go with a random person again and cuz I think this person is large I’m going to go Rando uh uh were you a lefty let me just double check to make sure you were Lefty okay here’s my person coming in hot
Um o oh by the way follow us on Twitter phore Phillies John’s got some great Bullpen and throwing session videos up there if you’re uh if you’re thirsty for some spring training action all right Rene it’s 12 let’s go tell them more n my computer’s walking a meeting okay
Wait I’m texting you now are you I am are you going to the mall after school today I don’t know all right Rene’s answer is in uh Jaime’s answer is in you guys have differing answers you each name somebody who was mentioned in the chat and and
Quite frankly guys I think this guy’s best career trajectory at this point is to probably go overseas and go play somewhere else because he’s not a Major League hitter it is in fact Eric Hall yeah who did you guess doesn’t matter yeah J Bruce Bruce I mean I’m just like whatever I don’t
Know this is fine everything’s fine guys this is fine all right well that’ll do it for us here um thanks for tuning in and joining us we had a lot of very meaningful conversation today we learned a lot about each other and a lot about the goats a lot about spring training
And a lot about the Phillies and the future Phillies um and Derek H was our guest at stand so there you have it guys congratulations though in those in the chat I saw a number of people that said Derek Hall Chris Miller Jamie apparently got it right according to his
Celebration nice dance moves um some others that said it definitely beefy boy Derek Hall well we’ll be back tomorrow we’ve got left fielders that will finally get a chance to rank we’ll also continue to update on the latest around spring training John Foley will be joining us again Mopar yes this game
Does suck I’ve been saying that but Jamie and Tyler enjoy it so we play it every day well it does suck Mopar it does suck it’s so difficult there’s so many names to choose from but anyways that’s fine this is fine everything’s fine congrats to those that were
Victorious join us again tomorrow 11 a.m. we’ll be back live for pH Phillies podcast have a great rest of your Thursday we’ve got some content coming your way soon on YouTube and Twitter so stay tuned we’ll be dropping some hot off the presses content for you not just
Down in spring training but right here from your very own favorite Trio uh so for Tyler zulie Jamie Lynch myself Renee Washington and our very own John Foley down in Clear Water have a great Thursday we’ll see you back for more Friday 11:00 a.m. stay tuned we all sitting like the May
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Spring training is spring training. Rojas bats 500. Sanchez look Juan marchial the bullpen everybody looks like a million dollar closer the team is a year older. With no improvements marsh ?
If you want to be honest. Fair. The whole Phillies outfield is questionable