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Chris Long and Beau Allen on Carrying Drunk Jason, Winning Super Bowls & Life After Football | Ep 79



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In this episode, we are joined by friends of the show and Eagles legends, Beau Allen and Chris Long!

But first, Travis gets the details on Jason’s Abbott Elementary cameo, we find out who’s helping us bring back Backyard Football, and finally get the truth about the legendary Kelce college house.

Later, Jason sits down with Chris and Beau. We discuss everything from how the guys first met on the Eagles, Beau’s legendary fireman carry, their best memories from Super Bowl 52, the time Jason and Beau shared a tent on top of Mt. Kilimanjaro, how painful it can be to play against your brother in the NFL, their honest thoughts on life after football and more.

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Chapters:
00:00 – Intro
01:50 – Jason on Abbot Elementary Cameo
04:00 – Fan Mentions
07:00 – Kelce College Stories
20:00 – Chris Long and Beau Allen
30:20 – Eagles Reunion
34:00 – “Carrying Kelce”
40:00 – Super Bowl 52 Stories
51:36 – Climbing Mt. Kilimanjaro
56:29 – Thoughts on 2023 Eagles
01:07:05 – NFL Brothers
01:06:30 – Bill Belichick Stories
01:12:45 – Stopping the “Tush Push”
01:16:53 – Retirement
01:21:05 – “We Gotta Ask”
01:31:10 – Thoughts on the Gold Baby
01:34:00 – Favorite Eagles Stories
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Actually been thinking is it a dirty this is my Roman Empire and I’ve been wanting to say this for a while your Roman EMP about the tou push all right now welcome back to new heights 92ers presented by wave sports and entertainment and brought to you by the

All new experienced smart money debit card that debit card that builds credit without the debt there’s nothing like it ladies and gentlemen go get you one we’re your host I’m Travis Kelce this is my big brother Jason Kelce New Heights drops every Wednesday and subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your

Podcast follow the show on all social media at New Heights show with 1s and check out our official fan club at New Height show.com also with 1s we’ve got a special episode for you guys this week pretty special and uh it was one of the

Things I missed out on by being in the Super Bowl and I’m pretty jealous Jason got to talk to two of his best friends two of his favorite teammates two of my favorite of Jason’s teammates um and uh Jason why don’t you to tell the people

What we got coming up yeah we got another fantastic episode lined up for all united2 centers we about to hear an eagles mini reunion featuring my former teammates Chris long and Bo Allen Travis of course had a Super Bowl uh commitments in Vegas but all week uh I

Was able to do uh whatever I wanted had a lot of fun so um I sat down with both of these guys and we talked about everything including our Super Bowl that we uh were fortunate enough to win at one point we got Bose side of the story

Carrying me out of the bar uh the first time I met Kylie and we also reminiscing about our time on Mount Kilimanjaro D I can’t wait to hear that recap before we get to this uh conversation though uh we always got to start with a little bit of

That new news new news man my voice is still gone wow it’s terrible absolutely horrendous mine is too that’s why I went low you can’t go high when you got a bad when you got no voice you can’t go high you can only go low all right good to

Know go low and Jason on the Abbott Elementary Premiere holy Jason you’re on that Abbot Elementary Premiere that’s right Kea Brunson shout out yeah we got on there um me jayen Herz I love that show man this would have been one of my favorites I’ve just started Bing watching the first season

So I haven’t even gotten to the second but that’s great God damn it you got you’re always on the coolest Philadelphia show why can’t Kansas City have a show um yeah Jason Jaylen Herz and Brandon Graham all made their cameos on season 3 premiere of the show Abbott Elementary on ABC Abbott Elementary

Takes place in Philly for those of you that don’t know uh so fans have been hoping for some Eagles guest appearances that’s right that’s right episode is centered around the school’s career day and Jason and BG popped in later in the show to tell Jaylen he’s late for

Practice this is pretty this just this picture alone is pretty good when did you guys tape this oh man I I think it was at the end of a day and the recording it makes it look like we’re trying to get the practice or something

Like that but I think this is like maybe like a Friday after like one of the fast Fridays or maybe it was a SAT I can’t remember nice but um yeah it was super easy the eag was all set it up upstairs and the room that we usually do the

Draft out of didn’t have many lines so that made it nice and easy all right now was it as fun as uh Always Sunny no always this was like on Zoom like and not in person all a sudden it was in person and you know I think to

See everybody added to the yeah you got to see the set how everything was done so that was probably a more fun experience but I love what this show represents and anything that sheds light on you know public schools and and uh you know Philadelphia system is is

Pretty special and ke does a fantastic job as does the whole crew over there at Abid Elementary so um was honored that uh they asked us to be a part of it for sure check it out if you haven’t seen it um and definitely check out Abit

Elementary as a show in general I guarantee you’ll like it a lot of a lot of stuff you can relate to if you went to public school um yeah what else we got dude well we got some fan mentions of the week that’s right New Heights fan mentions of the week is

Brought to you by our friends at accelerator active energy drink accelerator active energy is available at Quick Trip Meer and Amazon first fan mention of the week comes from JJ wild JJ replied to a clip of us talking about backyard football in a recent episode with a photo of him wearing Pablo

Sanchez T-Shirt Hell yeah baby Pablo was the star of the ENT back let’s get it going JJ let’s get it going baby hell yeah yeah we’re trying to get this thing revived we got some leads uh the Super Bowl kind of hindered us really going anywhere with those leads but now that

That’s over with um we’re going to do our best to bring this thing to reality yeah we got some pieces in place and uh if JJ wants to be a part of it I think that’d be pretty cool hell yeah it’s unite the brothers you know what I’m

Saying I think that’s a great idea wats and the kill that’s a powerful Duo right there our last fan mention comes from C Chuck null 50 I’m assuming his name is Chuck null um on Twitter who posted an incredible photo of Jason let’s talk about the ham Koozie episode ham coozie

Episode that was a long time ago that is my rookie year I think Jesus actually that might be my second year that’s my second year for sure say rookie or you that’s when I had the mustache yeah yeah no that’s all I got what is what what do

You mean what is it what’s the expl the hamzi it’s just eating a ham sandwich in in a Jacuzzi with a long sleeve shirt you get into the hot tub with a long sleeve shirt on I mean sometimes dud you’re psychomania you’re a psychotic it’s a dry fit it’s a dry

Fit there’s no world you never seen a fat guy get in pool with a shirt on there no there’s no world the shirt on no well it does it does when you somebody’s trying to take a picture of you since when have you been ashamed of your

Body I don’t know I don’t know why I’m wearing that shirt this happened over 10 years ago at this point I don’t remember why we did this oh man I remember the ham sandwich was good and I remember I need to go in the jacuzzi that thing

Looks toasted that thing looks I’m not GL that thing looks pretty good I mean they it’s it’s the Eagles cafeteria baby they do it good well the huzi baby for those of you that have never experienced the jacuzzi with a ham sandwich do yourself a favor or don’t before we hear

From Bo Allen and Chris along uh let’s answer some no dumb questions because there’s no such thing as a dumb question just do dumb asses answering them uh no dumb questions is brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings go to bww.com to find your participating free wings for

America location limit six wings per guest let’s go sports bar from user Don Dizzle too on Reddit page the athletic article by by uh Justin Williams uh was hilarious we need more stories about the college house what is your favorite story from sharing a room in college um yeah the athletic

Had a great article they interviewed a lot of our college teammates um most of made us sound like the generates but yeah that’s well I mean what college football player isn’t if you’re not you’re doing College wrong um thoughts on the article uh did you guys know your former roommate

Were being interviewed for it um yes I did got I got I got asked by a few guys um if it was cool I’m just like dude it’s always cool I was I completely trust all of them nobody told me I made sure to tell them don’t hold back

Like tell all the good stories and sure enough they uh they mentioned all the really good ones like Zach’s mom uh walking in on me uh firing up the garage uh before one of the games absolutely hilarious um and that’s that’s how I was living back then um what were your

Thoughts on it dude I thought it was good did you you read it right you read it right I did read it I thought it was awesome um it’s cool hearing from former teammates and guys that we live house that house was so special I mean think about championships that house has had

Roll through it between me you Derek wolf and Zach like Zach oh man it is crazy we got some Hardware we got some Hardware boys amount of parties and fun we had those were I mean listen don’t don’t give much better than the times that we were in that hustle for

Sure dude you ain’t lying man um gosh what is what’s one of them that that wasn’t shared though I feel like a lot of them were were pretty good they had you uh punching a hole in the wall there’s one with Craig Parmenter where you know exactly which one I’m

Talking about cuz our entire living room was out in the front law dude Wolfie just decide to become a Furniture mover at some point and then decide to start doing the people’s ELO on Craig parman on a mattress I don’t even know how to describe it like Words won’t even

Describe how you you can’t repl dude like we I was in I was in bed I don’t think I’ve ever laughed harder you haven’t i’ I came out because you were you and Zach were in tears like to the point where you couldn’t breathe like I was like dude if they laugh any

Harder they’re going to explode their hearts are it was so close um what was a what’s a good one from there man I don’t know there’s just so many man we talked about the hot sauce we talked about just how we had a big ass trash can like a dude

It was it was a filthy but so so much fun house man yeah endless memories I just remember the the Davis Family owning owning the home and the fact that uh Evan had to patch up all the walls and maybe redo some floors and some doors and some

Windows uh by the time we were out of there so shout out to EV Voltron as I call them shout out to Gail and and the Duke Greg Davis for uh man for Great Dane yeah dude the one of the best families that I’ve ever come encounter with man no doubt just the

Absolute best man shout out to the davises um I wish we had more stories but uh if you haven’t if you already read the article you notice that uh we were pretty shitfaced the entire time so uh not a lot of memories really come to mind um it’s pretty accurate

Yeah but we could probably talk about a few there were a lot of great stories in the article should we uh play a quick game of um confirm or deny with some of the ones that were mentioned I can I mean they were I can confirm all of them right

Now nobody made up a story yeah go ahead um during a house party Jason was a little inebriated and ripped a sink out of the wall well that wasn’t at the house that wasn’t at this house that was the previous football house yeah and Trav wasn’t even there yet cuz this is

My rookie year but yeah a bunch of the older guys had a house and I was a freshman and at some point um I tried to use the sink to get up and it started falling out of the wall and uh then before I knew it the

Whole sink was in my hands and water is getting sprayed all over the place and Nakamura who also played in the lead shout out to heroi one of the guys living in the house he wanted to kill me and as a as a seventh degree black belt

And Judo or whatever martial art he and his family did it was uh something I was not too fired up about uh but yeah that was a that was a fun one for sure that happened it’s a true true story also Jason once uh he confirmed that one

Jason once uh filled a water bottle with Jameson around St Patrick’s Day and drank it during a spring practice he did drink it I also I also gave a speech before practice after that was after practice okay remember you were hammered when you did the practice when

You did this I was just furious that they made us practice on St Patrick’s Day like why are we not getting St Patrick’s Day off this should be there’s no way we should have to come to practice right now I was so mad there’s no reason why we practice on St Patty’s

Day and retro retroactively I think or like retrospectively I think uh probably makes sense that we practice I mean just practice and then go have fun but at the time I didn’t make sense to me so I decided to take matters into my own hands so Jason put a uh the old Gatorade

Wristbands the the the like the Liv strong wristbands Gatorade made one he put it around the special water bottle that had Jameson in it and he didn’t put ice in it ladies and gentlemen this was no you don’t want to dilute that town hot as balls in Cincinnati

Spring practice and um sure enough we’re all getting psyched out by Jason trying to come hydrate us yep and giving us a bottle of Jameson no doubt hot Jameson at that um was not the uh surprise you were hoping for but I mean made for a good memory and Jason’s speech after

That day after that practice was one everyone will remember about how Jason’s ancestry came over to America was a very St Patrick’s Day speech for sure yes it was it was it was exactly what we needed um um so we can confirm that one um I once stripped during a charity

Fashion show I actually um deny this one because by the time I got to this part of the uh of my so I didn’t do the Chiefs I mean the Chiefs I didn’t do the Bearcats women’s 101 day until I was like a junior senior so this was you they stopped doing the

Fashion show by the time I went uh by the time I was a part of no no no this is you this was 1,00% you I did not strip over here I remember this happening this you remember this happening because you were a part of it

You were you were the one in you’re confused on this this was you you were the one in a jockstrap this was not this was you it’s not me all right whatever they got rid of it I I’ll confirm it because I know for a fact you

Did this at one point you just don’t remember doing it no so you don’t remember getting on stage with John Goble and being a nothing but your underwear no I didn’t do that they switched it from a fashion show to uh it might not have been a

Fashion show but whatever it is you stri down I remember this happening this is so false nobody wanted to see me strip down that’s why they to stop Furious I’ve never magic miked anything like this we had a giant outdoor garbage can sitting in the middle of the living room

Stacked with pizza boxes this is I mean this it was more than pizza boxes it was everything you name it cans Pizza beer leftovers and we didn’t have a lid it just stunk up the entire place it did and uh it was actually useful it was useful it was exactly what

We needed because we were a bunch of filthy animals and the trash was uh piling up was filled yeah it was just piled up so what better than to put a huge uh outdoor garbage can in the living room make it easy on yeah confirm uh Travis missed his flight for well we

Already know that’s true for the University of Cincinnati graduation that happened way after the fact but yes that is in fact a true statement yeah I can’t I got to confirm that one that was a that was a mess up on my my behalf um and uh thanks for the uh diploma either

Way thank you love you guys all righty that does it for no dumb questions brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings let’s go sports bar disgusting that hurts so bad I I up the clap cuz you sounded so disgusting all right now let’s get to the main event Jason Bo

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Got a twofer um first guest joining me now in Las Vegas was in the NFL for 11 Seasons 252 total tackles 76 six fumble recoveries one Walter pton Man of the Year award and two Super Bowls back to back my man the one and only Chris Long

What’s up yeah baby yeah what’s up this is sick and then also don’t read my stats also so they wanted to do so I’ll full full disclosure they wanted to combine your guys stats and me to just read it together they didn’t want to do

This to you but I made them do this because these are good nose tackle stats yeah and the world needs to know these are good nose guard stats forces to tackled with seven nflc Seasons 72 tackles that’s more than I thought you would have had to be honest with you

That’s a nice backand accom no well dude you didn’t play for like how many tackles do most know anyways 72 tackles two and a half sacks yeah which is great for never playing a third how many C sacks than my guy exactly we’re going to talk about this we’re

Going to talk about this right now two and a half sacks one fumble recovery and of course one Super Bowl championship that we all share uh my good friend Bo Allen baby the green light pod is in the house can I ask you uh let’s talk about

These stats though cuz we were one of the reasons I wanted to have it separated is because these are actually good nose tackle stats thanks Budd I’m serious how many like what’s an average tackles per season for most nose guards in the league like under 10 D Brown from

The Panthers had like 100 he plays a lot of three though too he doesn’t just play nose he’s a good player but I mean dude there are games where like I feel like I had a great game and like you like great out 100% which is like kind of you know

Hard to do like you know clean statute that’s what I’m saying oh my God like there was one time bro we played the Falcons in Tampa I had to get a there’s a two-point or there was a um a extra point that was blocked I had to

Chase it down like 80 yards and tackle it to get on the stat she and you know how it goes like those plays don’t even count in the stat that was a that was a two-point play yeah so like where does that end up barwin sted me at a charity

Event I text you about this did me and him were doing a charity event okay and the invitations got like bios on the bottom and they’re like uh Chris just check this out see if you’re okay with this and under CB it’s everything he ever

Did I’m on the right it’s like you know like charity guy yeah and uh and and so I had I was put in the precarious situation setting it back and being like no I’d like to also now I want my stats up that’s a good CV for that’s a good CV story so

But you you played primarily first and second down yeah you had 72 tackles despite what your first three seasons I mean how many percent of the plays were you in I don’t know like I’m just saying I was actually impressed with the stat line which is why I wanted

In you are an unheralded player and you deserve more credit and you’re also a better pass rusher than you ever got credit for I appreciate that no I mean it’s it’s hard to you just were the short fat white guy that nobody belied short get the out of here and also

I looked up your PFF grade the other day I was going to use you as an example that’s what it should be and they me no they you PFF this did they I would thought you been way too low yeah it’s not like any of us ners look

At our PFF scores I’ve never seen it in my life yeah uh us all going back for 10 10 years I was like golly what was I was I drunk that year yeah like what goes into being a good so I actually think you were actually I’m dead serious he was a

Very good pass rusher because he had two moves that worked off of each other really well bow the outside shoulder and hump yeah exactly and what like Chris same thing like you would work that one arm yeah or the other side when I was young swipe as you get older you

Change what you do yeah so what goes into figuring out what moves work I’ll let rusher go the guy that had 76 two and a half I’ll tell you all about it it’s hard cuz you know this every coach I mean like you had a great position coach

And general you you still do you still do I don’t know what you’re doing but uh but like you know every dline coach they they come up with this formula for how they want to teach scheme and what they often forget is that every guy’s different yeah everybody has their trait

And so like you can’t what what I can do Bo can’t do vice versa there’s things about I couldn’t land a hump you know you can’t just show me that you can’t just show me that on a tape and be like yeah you do it too

So I think every guy has to figure out what’s their mechanism for getting the edge yeah you know like whether it’s a swipe or a chop club like I play with Robert Quinn and you remember watching him he’d like jump into a chop club and

He’d grab the back pad to turn his body oh my gosh and that’s something I had no shot of doing so it was like I wouldn’t even practice that move like that cross chop is so sexy when you hit it right it’s so sexy it’s so stupid looking it’s

It’s an all or nothing shot too yeah and the swipe was was for me the way to get the edge but you can get the edge off power to and I think you watch tape you watch tape but and you probably know this from matching up with guys you

Might have a totally different concept of who a guy is based off tape and then the first quarter you’re like holy I got to switch this up oh yeah like oh man he has an anchor what now I had my whole game plan based off power complex

So now it’s being a pass rusher is just hit hitting it on the Fly you I think that’s the way to go you learn with your bread and butter but then you got a bunch of counters how much of it is setting it up too like the the double

Swipe do the power and getting the guy to shoot his hands to prevent that set that up everything’s set up I mean you know down to the way you use your tracks sure like if what talking about what’s tracks like a speed track or a tilt

Track like your pass rush angle kind of you know like so so so the angle at the quarterback or where his drop is going to be yes like for instance if I’m in a rush Lane and I’m 33 which I learned like in practice like I mean it doesn’t

Matter how old your lane is yeah I’m not going to get his Edge yeah he’s getting off the ball a speed track a waste of time for me like you have to like with a guy like that take a til track try to sit him down closer shorten the edge for

You yes and and then the fractions of the time are in your favor if you actually by the grace of God beat Lane yeah and get on his Edge if I beat him at the top of the rush at eight yards three yards wider there’s not going to

Be enough time so my only shot is to go right at him yes so you dictate things get him to shorten his set down yes get ready to Anchor and now all of a sudden that edge is shorter yeah and you set up the Edge stuff with power or or speed

Can set up power you get a guy bailing back who’s like a deep Setter yeah and then the minute he’s on that third step and his foots in the air you you you go at him and so like I set it up throughout the game and then it sucks

When you waste your yeah awesome move on like a draw you know like you’ve been practicing this one move and you save it for a big situation third and nine and they run a draw and so like you know it’s sometimes you it’s Hit or Miss yeah

I mean I think if you want to be a good pass rusher twoo you really need to understand in your own game and not try to hit moves that really aren’t you and that’s what I was talking about like for me I’m not a cross shot guy man it’s

Just my arms are too short I’m not a you know it’s just you need long arms for a cross chop well you just need like you need a great get off you what it was I think that’s a big part of it having a problem like I just my big toe was too

Small like what the was I even talking about this works so well for Robert uh yeah but no for like me I’m always going to set everything up with like a power rush and then guys would always you know how it is man if you get

A big white nose guard in front of you who you know is a power rusher like you’re going to try to jump set him and that’s when I H the out the moment you get bolded the next time you’re getting a situation where you know it’s

Going to be a longer pass set it’s like man I’m GNA try and get on this guy quick and if you can catch him while he’s trying to get on you quick he’s leaning and that’s where the hump yeah exactly so people attacking your ball hand and stuff like that’s probably got

To be sh it used to not be that big of an issue and then we were playing Dallas this year and Dallas had a great beat on our silent count and Osa uh I can’t pronounce his last name thank you phen I thought he really took a big step this

Year as a player player uh thir third or fourth okay but um he took a big step this year and they were all over our snap count and felt like or he was just getting an amazing get off at home yeah and he got on me a couple of times on

The snap and completely surpris yeah that would stress the out but usually I can especially on a silent count I can cheat it right because I’m the one controlling it that’s why it was unique like normally silent count I actually get off the ball quicker than

Everybody else cuz I can kind of except Lane yeah well Lane’s off sides I got people that are like like your friends off sides they’re not calling it well dude when when we when you’re in chips offense I remember being a rookie I was supposed to two gab your front

Side a gap and you do that outside Zone and you’re snapping the ball but you’ve already moved your body and it’s like what the am I supposed to how am I supposed to get in front of you yeah unbelievably explosive Hooper could you hula hoop I’ve never I’ve never been

Able to do it I would love to try it again because I think you might have a talent that we might try that later if we can find one we find a Hulu no that’s one of the things in shotgun that’s actually not so the downside of outside

Zone in shotgun is the back is further away from he’s like displaced from the line right he’s got to catch up yeah but the advantage of it for me is I can like basically flick the ball and move way quicker cuz I’m not attached to the quarterback yeah right but yeah I don’t

Know all right how about um we’ve done we we’re Square zero on the rundown so far all yeah we’re just like all right uh first question uh do you guys feel slighted that it’s took this long to get you on New Heights yes thanks for asking we talked about it before it is

Crazy it’s been 2 years and you guys are just getting on yeah but no I mean it’s like we’ve been just admiring what you guys are doing bro like I could not believe when we talked about it like how crazy two years ago yeah I mean you

Know you got all the realistic concerns of being a player and doing a podcast and like I just think you you’ve nailed it like you know you you play at a high level so it makes you able to not come in and worry about getting your ass

Kicked and then having to do a podcast even if get are butt kicked like you play pretty well yeah I mean it was still hard whenever you’re losing games it’s not fun to do a podcast fun to do anything I started to feel for you but

That’s it like you know this is the best thing in the world to probably come in and do when you’re winning but then it’s like damn you saw the flip side of the coin but I just think you guys have nailed it bro and like going to work

With my brother I empathize with you so I will say this uh for all the new Watchers of the show that weren’t around yesterday last year when we kind of said this Chris is a big reason why we started the show to begin with aside from Travis’s team which was very

Involved uh I reached out to Chris right away when we started talking about whether it made sense to do a podcast in the middle of a season and that was you were one of the convincing people that was like say some good I don’t remember you did I you you basically

Were like man just if if you think you’re going to get into it do it while you’re still playing do it while uh everything is of topic right and get it started and you know I think it was hot when I it was you gave me some advice advice

You gave me some advice too Chris I saw you in New England in free agency and you said yeah don’t do a don’t do a podcast when you’re in yeah don’t do you’re good depending on what team you’re on yeah yeah I was like okay cool

You can’t even take a selfie in that bu serious no I’m not serious now not even outside the building like rookies come in all excited and then the next day the post is deleted and they have a meeting y well we’re happy to be on K thanks for

Having us well thank you for finally coming on um the three of us know each other pretty well we all the Super Bowl obviously in Philadelphia um I’ll start with Bo Bo do you remember the first time we met I do actually because it was

Okay well I remember uh kelse and I have the same agent shout out Clarity Sports and Jason Bernstein yep and Emily and I remember Emily was like hey yeah we we we have a couple guys in the Eagles like I think they’re going to really like you

Guys should go out to eat and we went to elvez yeah in Philly I remember that I remember just being a rookie and just being like don’t say like don’t like don’t get these gu like stopped talking the whole time that plan worked out uh really well

But I remember I think that was the first time I met you Conor barwin and uh you know I mean it was a good time I feel like we just kind of got along I don’t know what were your first impressions uh man what a question Kel you think I remember that

Far back I I know you remember the first impression in the shower you remember all those oh boy yeah some things are just so grotesque it’s just imprinted on your memory bro uh no I just I mean I remember think you guys were cool like I

Dude when you’re a rookie like you don’t know like you get drafted and then you go to rookie mini camp and your head’s spinning it’s like I don’t know like I just remember thinking you guys remind me a lot of a lot of my friends that I had in in college at Wisconsin

And just think I’m like I don’t know hope I make this team because these guys seem pretty cool you know like that’s that’s pretty much what it boils down to but that was stupid it’s true I just I didn’t realize this was going to be a thing where you two just

Gang up I’m be like you’re in the middle you’re in the my U uh speaking of First Impressions we talked about this before the show uh Kylie’s first impression of me was you carrying me out of a bar yeah um yeah I guess can we what’s the side what’s your

Side of the story k i I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again that was physically one of the hardest things I’ve ever done that was harder than climbing about Karo caring him out of the bar it was like you know anerobic I was fighting at the baby was fighting

The baby was it was K yeah we were like so dude the thing that like people don’t know is like we were uh like they met on Kylie and Jason met on Tinder and so like for like a week or two leading up to you guys meet meeting like they were

Like chitchatting you know online and kelse was like talking about this girl and like you know like I really like this girl like got to make a good first impression like what should I say to her and we’re like I’ve heard that the cafeteria just like talking about it and

Then we have the holiday party uh you know in Philly which was like a big deal like kind of a formal event like get all dressed up and like we pregamed it of course course playing Wayne bruski probably and then’s like yeah I think we

Like I’m going to meet up with this girl and I’ve like heard all about her I’m like excited to meet her and the night just went a little bit sideways Kel’s fell asleep on the bar like snoozing and this is the thing about Kel’s like it’s actually not that uncommon it’s not

Uncommon I actually was looking back through like some old photos and I have a kind of disturbing amount of like photos of you just sleep in various places my I think my brain just eventually got to the point that it prevented me from drinking alcohol but

Just yeah shutting down well this is the thing I never told the safest thing that can happen right yeah that’s good you know so I think it should be I’m car probably should have happened earlier through old city like from Buffalo billage which honestly Elite bar great

Great bar like they steel tip darts and like Big Buck Hunter and pool and like we go there all the time anyway it’s like cobblestone streets KS and you’re fighting me and I’m like straining I dropped you I don’t know why dropped I know I was sleeping but I remember I

Remember it I remember fighting you and laughing my ass off you giggling and then and then we get in like I dropped you hard and I’m trying to pick you back I’m like and you’re like I don’t know man it was a whole thing were you

Shocked when Kylie agreed to go on a second day with me after that I was slightly surprised but you know you’re a great guy man you’re charming look at that laugh like how can you not how can you not want to go on a second day with

You know great guy Kel come on now Chris you joined Philly in 2017 201 fresh off a New England Patriots Super Bowl uh what were your first impressions of me the Eagles B uh yeah dude my first impression was the first guy I met was Lane yeah yeah like he was just hanging

Out like talk about man in the year yeah hope I hope nominee yeah yeah and and he was just Milling around in there and we just started talking and I was like you these guys are pretty cool you know he was explaining each guy’s personality he’s like wait till you meet Jason it’s

You know you’re can love him the whole thing and so you know I just remember meeting you and watching you operate and and seeing you kind of like the way you competed at everything like that was fun for me so I just kind of eye guys up to

See who the who the alphas are cuz like you’re an older guy and you might be asked to be a part of that group yeah and I just want to know who’s and who’s not and you know like it was obvious to me like you know not pump

Your tires here you’re not a guy and so that was probably it for me it was just like competitor and what you see is exactly what you get yeah like exactly what you get very genuine authentic guy Kels we love that about you what were your uh thoughts of coming

To the Eagles after being with the Patriots dude it’s funny the first thought I had was the Super Bowl week of the Patriots now I wasn’t thinking about free agency yeah but we were playing the Falcons and Friday night I remember sitting in the film room and catching up

On some you know some like late pass rush stuff and I was watching reals and the Eagles and Falcons game from 17 came up yeah or 16 16 yeah in in Philly that was a good game for us and your dline got after him yeah it’s so funny to me

That moment looking back at it watching film that light bulb went off in my head and I don’t think I I thought about it but it stayed there it was like it made a lasting impression I was like that looks fun and then when it was time to

You know decide what I wanted to do I called Ian Yates Cunningham yeah who’s now with Chicago okay um with Ryan poles yeah and he was Joe Joe Douglas’s guy in Baltimore and I played college football with him and I said hey will you talk to

Howie see if you could use a vet and uh yeah that was the rest was History Nice all right I played you in my first ever NFL game did you know was that in St Louis when you had Mike Vic it was yeah

And I had it was a close game I was on Todd Herman’s well for a little was didn’t feel close to me no maybe for you guys which shows you your standard at you guys were like and we were like man we’re getting our ass kicked like

Every other week dude that score up I think it was like 34 to 11 was it oh wow oh wow yeah okay maybe it was a little bit on it was my first game so it was a lot of things going on I was trying to blog James lorius over there hey

Minnesota’s fine us hey there we go um let me see what’s next I do this all the time it’s fun it’s fun being on the other side man what do you want to talk about while he finds his place anything bro what do you got for me um top

Three um Candy Zen flavors ooh coffee love coffee 3 milligram okay kind of on a citrus kick right now and then cool mint okay yeah okay that’s disgusting all your choices were bad right uh a menthol guy no chill chill smooth oh chill is great okay go

Ahead he found his place yeah uh let’s skip ahead to the super B zenpod um before emergency produced before we get to the game itself um there’s an iconic pick of both of you in dog Mass this was after this picture Atlanta right you and so let’s say this

You and Lane started it yeah everybody knows this on the team yeah you and Lane started it yeah how did that happen so I don’t know all week it was like do you guys know you’re not supposed to win this game do you guys know it was like

Hey like 50 at your locker like same question and uh you know we were making a mockery of the fact M that we were underdogs you know like we were so it started as kind of a a joke you know we were bored on like a Tuesday and

We were like we should we should get some dogs and wear them to the media after the game now we’re only thinking one week at a time here now the scariest thing is when you commit to actually putting those on and it’s like we’re

Going to be a meme or it’s going to be the coolest thing I think that moment happened around when we were walking through the tunnel with those two dog masks on but Lane was like I was like Lane can you handle this can you and and to his credit he found like

And we didn’t have a breed in mind yeah so you just happened to pick the best mask of all time that mask could be any mask it was just whatever was available onon speak for yourself I sought out the poodle mask well which was a weird I thought it would be funny like

Like a Saluki it’s it’s so creepy it was like a hyper realistic poodle Master which tells you that like we were walking down the hall and he was like I don’t do that too he like well the other no Chris you were like hey should we do this like should we do

This will this be cool hey do you want to do it you want to do it like don’t with you I was like yeah it and I was I was like I’ll order one right now and then like searched dog mask on Amazon saw this poodle I was

Like bro you got the poodle and then you like you’re you’re not going no but I remember this the reason you went poodle the reason you poodle poodle was because after you guys wore these the first game they all sold out instantly yeah it became such a big thing that you

Couldn’t get any more of them like I couldn’t even get one that’s why I didn’t wear one you got the poodle you had to opt for like a different one you’re like the Poodle’s hilarious the Kirkland brand do you remember do you remember they were crying Jordan in everybody yes I was

Like all I could think about was like my worst nightmare was me crying Jordan with a dog mask on and I was like it’s going to happen but yeah like as it got closer it was evident that it was a big thing for people and then it became a

Serious thing yeah like the begin was a around yeah and then it became a serious thing and then it’s on the inside of the Super Bowl ring it’s on the ins now it’s on the inside of our watches so I mean like of all the cool

that I’ve been a part of that to me not just the Super Bowl but like those little conversations like yeah people are putting those masks on to this day cuz we were being dumb asses in the training room getting taped hilarious was awesome it’s great the underdog

Mentality stuck and we made it all the way to the Super Bowl yeah Chris you ended up facing off in the Super Bowl against a team you won a Super Bowl with the previous year what was that like it was another worst nightmare situation why is that because you’re like if we

Lose yeah I’m a huge way people talk about it because like when I left I didn’t leave New England on bad terms but I left cuz the scheme wasn’t right for me and um you know when you leave New England people are like what the is wrong with why

Would you think no one ever leaves New England on bad terms Chris no they well some people do but I wasn’t one of those people I just knew I was going to do something else and so when it got to the Super Bowl I was like praying whoever

Else it was in the AFC Championship would get in I think it was Jacksonville because we huddled in Dom’s office watching the second half of that game and I really thought they could win that game yeah um and there was a call in there or whatever but I was like man if

I lose to the Pats if me and leg lose the Pats we’re just they’re going to be they’re going to kill us and uh you know I was walking around I I’ll never forget and I probably asked you Jason like 14 times during the week how many points

You think you can score how many points you think you can score because we knew they were G to at some point in the game with a flurry dude it’s Tom Brady and in that second half they did but you guys like I can remember one time coming over

The the sideline and Lan was like can y’all just get a stop we’re trying and I was like this is it’s happening it’s happening yeah like the worst thing well Chris you’re talking about like a nightmare scenario losing against your former team in Super Bowl I’m from Minnesota so we’re playing the

Super Bowl in my home state 20 minutes from where I grew up all my friends and family are there and we’re on the sideline we cannot stop them I’m like we’re about to lose this game because of our you wor all my friends flew in all my family my Grandma’s watching

Yeah dude she’s probably disappointing me right now dude all the thoughts that are going through your head when it’s going wrong I mean you can act like you don’t think worst case scenario but you always do thank god dude Brandon Graham just BG BG’s the man and 283 the year

Before so I know even when we got up on him you’re just like yeah got to keep the foot on the gas got to keep the foot on the gas what was it like for you Kels watch like you guys played unbelievably on offensive were you mad at us yeah

Were you mad at us uh I’m going to ask the question more directly we I wasn’t mad but it was like God damn man they’re really just not I know but you know like we can’t we I mean Tom had it was a record for him I want to get on the it’s

Ironic that the best Tom Brady statistically played in a Super Bowl is one of the Super Bowls he lost not quite good enough but I seriously wanted to get on the red phone and cuss out whoever was I would be like put somebody else on grank please yeah do something

Else with gr we got to try something mix it up it’s funny when you watch that game back cuz I actually hadn’t seen it the media copy until last year when you guys were in the and we were out there dude there was so much fun that happened in that game it was

Insane ly one of the most incredible it was it was fantastic and I guess to I guess to answer that question though I I wasn’t as focused on you guys I was more like amazed at how well Nick Foles was playing yeah like it was like anything

We did it was it was you know when you’re in that Rhythm and in that zone where it just feels like everything’s hitting your offense was even like they they were so good at running their like games up front and somehow we were passing them off and Nick was Poise and

It was um yeah it was just one of those feelings offensively that anything we were doing was working but I knew you they couldn’t beat you guys up front yeah that was one of the reasons I thought we’d win the game was because I knew they couldn’t generate enough pass

Rush yeah you guys were just so good and and they were that wasn’t a strength for them no they were their defense was definitely on a down yeah year for sure uh but they all I mean they’re so well coach and it’s and it’s Bill but yeah it

Was yeah we we had it done one of the plays that I remember and uh like was the last play of the game yeah oh yeah and I don’t know why it was like such a low probability but in my head they’re never dead yeah it’s Tom Brady groon

There and I remember that ball hanging up there forever waiting for it to fall it’s like literally the guys who make the movies are yeah they’re very good CU all of the noise is out I don’t hear anything I see the ball it drops and I

Still don’t know if the game’s over and you’re like looking for a flag like we just win the Super Bowl because everybody’s cheering yeah everybody’s just cheering no matter what and BG almost won too quick cuz he he got around the edge and and and and fell off

Tom and then Tom had the time cuz we were I think rushing too to like to like really load up and it was scary as 5 Seconds it was you talk about plays like that but like Brandon dude BG strip sack yeah I like literally like people say

This but like I blacked out I was celebrating so hard stars and I we’re all each other like going crazy like just becoming barbarians on the sideline and then I look down I’m like all the way out the feel like the hash marks like or like on the numbers I’m like oh

I better I don’t want to get penalized I get back to the fuckfuck on the field at that point yeah but I mean that was such an amazing play it’s time to shout out our next sponsor that’s Buffalo Wild Wings that’s right and since the Chiefs won the big game in the

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Oh well yeah you’re doing good so far for the 92ers you don’t Chris Foundation has a signature initiative called the water boys that uh is dedicated to providing clean water access to over uh 1 million people worldwide yeah that that’s the goal deep bore wells in subsaharan Africa yeah you’re doing good

I’m a water boy no I am too but I’m botching this no you’re doing great bro you’re doing great yeah water boys man we’ve done uh we provided water to 500,000 people in East Africa and Tanzania and Kenya and then we do domestic stuff as well we could be doing

It well in Wisconsin at some point you know we could be doing well in Min Minneapolis some point no I’m saying like up in your neck of the woods like you know so I might be asking you to join me to do something outside of uh

Camp Rand and that area and then Jason we could be doing an Ohio project at some point so like we’re doing domestic and we’re doing uh International and you guys were kind enough to join me uh on the Conquering Killy it was really fun how so what trip was that for you what

Cl to killy what climb that had to be maybe four you were higher than four weren’t you four or five five five I think five i h it dude has off five times on that amount 20,000 dude a month of my life plus incredible like incredible yeah you really get where

Does that yeah where does that hike rank in your hierarchy of Killy hikes oh up there dude the personalities on that hike were incredible yourself included okay uh and just like every every year you go you meet new vets you meet new players like I man we had Jim Mora one

Time you know the coach guy smoked it dude yeah his resting heart rate at 18,000 feet was like 48 like a freaking nature so you find out that some people are like amazing Mountaineers and then you kind of side bet with each other who’s going to struggle you know like uh

And and you know that and it’s a competitive group of military vets and athletes the camaraderie is awesome and nothing’s off limits where it’s like we bust each other’s balls it’s like the locker room you get in the tent these guys and girls have been all over the

World serving our country and you know they don’t know us at all and they’re not like super fans they just want to do this thing with us and uh the first night it’s always evident that you know like there’s a lot in common with the locker room stuff and just you know the

Camaraderie and people hit it off and as you know the group chat fires off grp constantly so you make a bunch of great friends man you learn a lot about yourself you learn a lot about people in that situation it’s one of the most challenging things in a very different

Way yeah than anything I’ve ever done like time under ention yeah a cardio event it’s a long deal it’s it’s discomfort he lost 26 lbs I found out today yeah that’s kelse and I almost had a scrap right we did we hated each other kelse me bro it was so pissed at me

Because he thought I took his hat he you did and then I know you snuck it in my bag you we had the same hat because this lazy ass didn’t do any research going into it oh I know he didn’t do any research because for the new heights

People I told this on our podcast earlier the only time me and Jason both can be moody as but we have never been in an argument except for on Killy because he did not think that I sufficiently filled him in on how hard it was to climb a 19,000 Mountain he was

Mad at me this is the first time I’m finding out that people actually die climbing my well we don’t put that in the brochures yeah and Kelsey and I exhaust ourselves screaming at each other in our tent right before Summit night and I don’t have your hat we have the

Same hat that’s what they bro because I sent Kel everything I bought cuz I did a bunch of research like what kind of a gear wh it was fun it was fun to like find all the stuff so we had all the same stuff I know your

Hat is in your bag and we were 10 minutes you guys are married yelling at each other he wouldn’t look at me were were like five nights in he’s got his earbuds in just pissed off like po po what did I do with those earbuds though he took the earbud he

Gave it back to me we listen to tunes for while was a Manar listen to little music and I’ll tell you what until those earbud bu ran out dude that really really help break up the drudgery man we started singing and then we stopped singing and then we

Stopped for a while okay I need to conserve this oxygen that it’s just breathing the funnyest Chris is like you’re like yeah once we get to the fall Summit like the sun will come up like we’ll take a photo and like so it’s like me and you like we get up there and

We’re like taking a pick I was like oh this going to be such a cool pick but I did war false Summit and it’s we look horrible bro we just went through such a great pi so funny man all right let’s talk some 2023 Eagles I’m interested into what

Your guys perspective was watching the season go be honest I do I do I do because I I have said what I think um and I would love to know from an outsider’s perspective what did it look like on both sides defensively and offensively I think when you replace two coordinators the chances

Of you getting back are slim yeah and history says that like how many teams have actually replaced coordinators off of Super Bowl win or I mean not too many people go back to Super Bowl even with the coordinators so so that’s another part of it because we can compare to

2018 where we were four and six yeah at one point got blown out by New Orleans and we flipped the switch Yeah lost to the Bucks in week two in Tampa oh the firing the Cannons off that fiberglass hottest game of all Des Jackson so stopped I think said go back

Inside boys too hot too hot I want to give you guys a lot of credit and we did on the Pod because you know like I meant this I wasn’t just I wasn’t being a homer yeah it is incredible to get to where you guys got say around

Week 11 like the resolve the leadership you got people to the you know the red zone so to speak the leadership on that team the talent but when you replacing the coordinators and I don’t think every guy on that team was invested as some of the guys and I’m talking about the 10th

11th guy on a on respective side of the ball yeah you have to depend on young guys and you have to depend on depth and our year where we hit on depth where it was sprouls gets hurt Peters gets hurt guys get hurt and the guy stepped up

Played crucial roles that didn’t happen this year and so like I felt bad for you cuz sometimes I’d look at the team and say after like the Cardinals game and say what the guys if I was in this locker room and I’m not like I’m not that self-important to say but if you’re

Asking me I’d be like what the like we don’t have something to play for here there’s no sense of urgency but I also know that scheme when it’s not going well it can be like a NeverEnding pit and it’s hard to get out of it and

If the young guys are guys off the street you’re not always going to win that that situation that we won in 2017 so that’s my I I tip my cap to you guys for even getting to the point where it was a disappointment yeah but you know

It sucked watching cuz I felt for you and Lane and the guys that saw 2017 and to then get to that point I don’t know if this is going to make much sense from an out Outsiders perspective you know obviously we weren’t in the locker room like you were we don’t know

You know everything that’s happening in the locker room behind the scenes things like that but like in 2017 there’s something to be said for like you just kind of Manifest this energy where things go right for you you know what I mean and like it’s we had that for the

First half of the year we 10 one W A lot it was like the it completely flipped you know what I mean it’s like what do we have to do to get this back like everyone I’m sure was reaching trying really hard I’m sure practices were I’m

Sure emotional and intense at that point in year because everyone wants to figure out what do I need to do to get this you go back and forth like you try to be like over intense on one week and then you lose again you’re like okay now

Maybe we need to do less like have energy we need to go Full Pass there’s no shortcut just got to play well guys got to play well they got B and yeah there’s no question and there’s there Personnel issues like I know they’re all NFL players and their teammates and like

But to be one of those teams like there can’t be holes at linebacker they can’t be holes in the secondary and like you know I just as a defensive player I’m watching I feel for the guys up front cuz the Run fits it’s not all on them

You know like it’s everybody and and when one guy isn’t doing their job you know how it is everything just seems so out of sync you know that’s what it look like defensively and offensively at the end of the year for sure and then you look at the roster and you’re like how

Is this happening like there’s so much talent on this team it’s makes it even more frustrating I’m sure for you guys what um what do you guys think of the new coaching changes that have been made I think it’s excellent I mean we were talking about that I love Vic banjo’s

Defenses like I think you would fit in well hey those 72 tackles one of I’m on retiring you heard in here first new heights pod that’s one of the most important things having those those big guys in the middle like a gap and a half

And all that stuff and and I I really do think the fangio thing it’s not just about the scheme he was in the building last year and I’m not saying I know how much or how little he helped Nick or everybody else but like yeah I know firstand Stout and I would have

Conversation with Vic about about Red Zone things like what do you think the defense what how are they coached in this situation I don’t know those we’re supposed to say that but we did so but those guys can make her break years CU it’s like that guy that’s

Not he’s not burdened with having to call the plays or having well not that Nick was calling the play plays but like having to do all the meetings and stuff this guy’s got like an elevated vantage point and he’s a former head coach yeah and like that’s so valuable so when you

See people hiring I always look if it’s a young guy who do they bring in that can be kind of that assistant head coach cuz that’s such an invisible we just offer the experience of that right yeah there situations like I mean look at Antonio Pierce he’s awesome this year

But he also would tell you he was learning on the job there’s all these situational football things that like you’re not thinking about that no no question I think there’s a lot to be excited about man for the Eagles going forward more yeah more yeah I mean more

Shots more shots more Run game the Motions are higher more motion so it I mean he what I remember from him in Dallas cuz we played played when you were still with eagles he was with Dallas right or was that before yeah he was with Dallas yeah um I just remember

Him doing all sorts of creative things and he’s he’s he mixes it up he played at Boise right yeah and they were doing all sorts of crazy stuff at Boise but I think you guys are more like the Dallas team and the LA team so I don’t

Look at what he did in La as like some big like accurate sample size I look at like hey that group you got it’s kind of like those really good Dallas offenses where it’s like you got a great offensive line athletic quarterback some weapons out outs side I think it’d be

Awesome what uh you so you should come back yeah okay do you guys know anything about Clint yeah okay moving on you guys know anything about Clint hurt I know he looks like he could play dine dude he looks sick he looks like like plug him

In at zero bro looks like you could bench press the player like let me see him and Dom in board drill unbelievable like what’s happening pretty fun to watch I’ve heard good things man that’d be a battle of Titans man sheesh no but he looks incredible man he’s looks like

A sick coach what um the pecs on that guy living on the P deck if you were going to say anything the the young defensive lineman especially what would you guys say to the Eagles young defensive listen I’m not saying to Jaylen Carter man hey keep doing your

Thing man I mean he he’s impressive unbeli you talk about a good hump move seriously his uh just the suddenness and the way he like attacks inside moves and stuff like that is so fun to watch and uh I mean it’s he’s a guy that I think

It’s really easy to be excited for him because he’s so electric watching him play uh I think I mean I also love like Milton Williams I think he’s going to be a free agent maybe I don’t even know many I like mil William I think he’s

Really like it’s so hard to play that four technique yeah with good technique and stay square and I’ve been a big big mil’s a third or fourth year guy he’s a beast I think he just finished his third year yeah so he still got one more

Year hang in there you know like on one hand hang in there because like it wasn’t all you guys this year and I know sometimes it’s like well you weren’t getting home but the very thing that helped you last year wasn’t there like it’s better backend guys and you know

Like it just but also if you’re Jaylen Carter take advantage of this opportunity to be a Hall of Fame talent in Philadelphia for more than a decade and so like the talent’s there yeah bro I love watching him play and you know what it was is the Tampa game it was a

Checkdown and he Sprints out of stack and just decapitates the the Crosser yes and that’s the when once you show me that I wanton it all the time yeah and I just I I hope he’s just I hope he’s pouring everything into this opportunity because I think I think he

Can be mentioned among the greatest players to have played in that uniform and like that’s not hyperbolic no I I completely agree the the the the talent the skill set all of that is is there learn from the guy the older guys in the room too I mean did a great job all

Joking inside like you were great to me when I was a rookie man I was a nose guard swimming no idea what’s going on and kelse would stay after work technique stuff with me and we had very detailed conversations about the minutia of inside line play you know and like

Look at the guys you got sweaty Jay you got Fletcher Cox you got Brandon Graham like some unbelievable BS in your room and just do everything you can to soak up anything you can from them and that’s you know like you never know how long

These guys play and like so if you’re a rookie and you’ve got a vet like that like don’t wait till next year to be his his friend and I’m not talking about kiss his ass but watch this guy you want to learn something from somebody I had vet James Hall who was

Like terrific great player played on shitty teams wouldn’t talk to me for 6 months yeah cuz it was it was unfair I was cutting his reps and I wasn’t ready to start over him it’s like a high draft pick thing and he understandably did not

Like me in the beginning true but I was learning from him yeah I was going to get some out of James Hall whether he was talking to me or not I would just Shadow the and so I would just like use those vets and

Also like you get to play on third down at the link yeah just understand that it is not like that everywhere you got some guys that are grinding first and second down all what I what I mean is first and second down the link like you get to run

Through the tunnel at the link and put that that helmet on man like I waited my whole career to play somewhere exactly like that and these guys they don’t realize what they have and so I’m just I’m not saying our our group Philly’s group but what I am saying is like if

You need a reminder it ain’t like that everywhere else yeah so you should fight and scratch and Claw to be a part of this thing the next 5 10 years cuz it’s you could be Jason chel look at the way they love J Jason and laye and

Those guys you could be those guys Chris we share something in common we both have a brother in the league yeah or shared a brother in the league yeah um what was that experience like playing in the league with Chris orle well it was yeah I did have like split personality

Play uh but Kyle Kyle um Kyle’s always been like my baby brother you know like I definitely like I’m the oldest and you know we’ve talked about this before but like I’m I always feel responsible for him and then one day he was way bigger than

Me and it was like he could protect me and like kind of when I walk around with him like Super Bowl week or somewhere I’m like I I basically have like a giant Russian bodyguard like at my disposal it’s awesome on set too the whole thing

But when he got in the league it was like everything he was going through I just felt like a parent for the first time yeah you know because like I know exactly what he’s going through my dad’s Sweating Bullets watching us play every week I remember one time he came play us

In St Louis and I’m talking about the the offseason before when he was a rookie we took him out to Vegas with my dline and got really up at uh one of these beach parties fact gu got carried out that day by Kai fireman carry he didn’t have so much trouble um

But uh you know we were all tight and then the very and William Hayes who celic hates one of my best friends on the D line in St Louis was just getting on Kyle getting on Kyle in one play he just snaps and like the the absolute

Gorilla and Kyle comes out and he’s like King Kong and will behind the play after the play and he’s punching him and he’s getting ready to wind up and kick him and I’m sprinting off the sideline you’ve seen the footage of me trying to grab this big son of and he’s so

Big and strong I go to grab him and he jerks like out of it and his jersey I I got a piece of his jersey in my hand the Jersey comes off bro and I’m thinking for sure he’s going to get ejected but like that was the

Everybody on the outside to bring it back to like you and Travis yeah they think it’s so cute think it’s always so cute and it’s all fun and games but like for parents to like watch their two kids play a football game and that was a meaningless game in St Louis

But it was the worst week of my life as a pro football player yeah and my parents lives because they’re just so stressed yeah and they know the pressure that’s on and your guys’s Dynamic is different though because you play literally play each other and for

You Travis and I like if both offenses do well our parents are actually they’re fine but they bet the over yeah yeah you guys did you how many times did you actually pass rush Kyle in the very very rarely one time in open practice though

When he came up to New England I came inside on a stunt and he’s a guard most people don’t understand we’re not going to be battling all game did you get him but did you oh I got him yeah so so so so I cross his face feed him clean this

Big son of whips his arm around like a helicopter to just anything reverse body block just like and he ice picks me in the ribs I fractured my rib he fractured my Rift so you got him but he got you yes and it wasn’t worth getting him because the

Next got the last the next month and a half like when I was shifting around in bed like I was like this dud even if you beat Kyle you don’t beat Kyle uh bill bich yeah it’s a good segue I I go here what uh you both spent time in New

England I’m still shocked he’s not a head coach yeah um I know older but you would think that a team to me the perfect match was the Chargers they have a good quarterback like I don’t you know we’ve seen what he can do I thought it be fun

To see him in Seattle personally but I thought he was gonna be Atlanta yeah and then shahe did a great job this year so I I’m super psyched got that job but I thought Atlanta would have like the ownership group and the like the structure in Personnel that might work where the GM’s

Not like somebody that that that’s going to butt heads with him at all yeah and then they got a president right and and then they have an owner and I think he respects Arthur Blank and his name was hot there yep I just thought the Chargers were looking to not fix Justin

Because I think he’s damn good he’s just trying to be here and he’s here and like I I just wouldn’t miss this chance to give him a quarterback guy can improve but to me the offense wasn’t that big like what are the offensive stats for the Chargers from last year was that the

Issue it was in crunch time they lost a lot of on score games and situational football and that sort of thing and I think you can get the the Jim’s situational ball yeah but Jim but Jim’s the rare guy that can don’t get wrong I think Jim’s I’m not this is not

A I’m just telling you why I thought Jim was a great hire gotta cuz it’s cuz he’s such a good culture Setter yeah but which is usually a defensive coach but he’s also that offensive wiiz when he came to San Francisco in 200 whatever it

Was yeah it was the lockout year it was 2010 do you know how incredible it is they they went from this underachieving team to 13 and three in a St season they had with Alex Smith yeah what time out they had the best front seven possibly they had him last

Year yeah I mean I I don’t think that the offense is what got them oh San Francisco yeah no but that group was like they’re running they were good I’m not knocking them I’m not knocking them but that front seven in that defense was insane yeah but like they also

Yeah I remember it was ridiculous Bal Frank Gore and the they had like they were just good they were just good they were unbelievable in the trenches on both sides of the they were unbelievable Justin Smith you do not with guys that have tiny anheiser

Bushes like that’s just like it looks like you got it in prison her he was my idol bro he was my idol I remember trading jerseys with him it was a total like fan proposition it was Unreal watching him remember that like P taxi used to run you know what I’m oh yeah

Him and Alden Smith so sick they B it illegal as it was the old tush push but more unfair tush push is completely the tush what is your thought as yeah let’s get this okay actually been thinking is it a dirty play this is my Roman Empire

And I’ve been wanting to say this for a while your Roman EMP about the tou push the tush that why is it bro there’s nothing you can do as a nose guard to stop it I mean reason hold on other teams tried to run it this year yeah and they didn’t they

Stopped it and they got hurt like dudes on offense got hurt on the other teams like they’re just yeah I mean you guys run it so well but like the counters that you have off of it the strength of you know you got some big ass inside you do such a great

Job of getting so low and but like also like you know the snap count and you just get off so well you know sometimes you even take the ball and move it up a little bit what are you talking about yeah I’ve been seeing that for

Years the first time I got called this year fck dude I have seen that I’m a nose guard bro they’ve been warning me for three years years I’m like o Kel is up to his old tricks again that Buffalo no it was Seattle and we ended up losing

By it would have it was a really bad safety help little safety help maybe we’re off the field for sure but yeah it was not good it was yeah it was thing that kills me is they calling you uh you’re off hand too sides yeah they were

Doing everything they could to try and shift some of the balance back to the defense but um yeah I love the saying as a nose as a nose guard what’s the way to stop the tush push dude I think you need to just reverse engineer it man but then the

Problem reverse engineer you need to anti- tush push like I think I talked about this food poisoning food poison the offensive line that’s the only chance invite them steak and have them like two egap players underneath and a linebacker screaming on their back so you’re gapping it out six

Six and then you just guys are just going to run the counter obviously yeah but it’s like a goal line defense you can do that that’s definitely and then you need to just cheat the out of the count just try to get off the ball with your life you think you figured out

The tou push am I wrong I think that’s one I think I don’t know that I want to release yeah that’s it he’s not going to tell you blink twice I I think I think if you can try and get everybody singled up yeah and

You can win The Leverage at the point of attack right that’s your your best hope yeah but it’s hard to do that and like you said be able to defend all the counters I respect the hell out of it man like on one hand I love it because

It’s just it’s such a sassy play Sassy it’s a sassy so successful for you guys but the nose guard in me like you know that if I was playing you guys it’s a terrible you you you but bottom of the pile just like trying to

Figure out if you got the first down or not as a nose guard you got to hate it I think the mental Edge though do you think the linebacker should push you I think you kind of need to do like maybe you like because you guys run it

Multiple times in games yeah so like the first one yeah they do try it out then the second one faint it and scrape over for the counter how about that all right if you get seven yards on first down I’m like we might see the touch push even if we’re successful here that’s

Like a whole mind thing I felt like once you guys ran it successfully in a single game it was like knocking the biggest guy out in prison the first day it was like everybody else like scatter the guys are like we we actually can’t stop I love when you guys would

Run it at home and the link everyone would be going crazy and it’s like fourth down in a critical moment you’re like can you guys shut up please like yeah exactly you know like but everyone loves it because it’s well that’s the one thing with it like it’s uh it’s I

Guess one of the one of the things that knocks against it is people say it’s not an exciting play but when you’re at the stadium it is the most exciting play for the F like everybody is like this is we’re about to see I wonder what they’re going to do

Here it’s like seeing Justin Bieber for a middleaged like it’s like they just start they just the tou push it’s like Billy dudes man they’re doing it we always remember this year though it’ll be the toou push Year dude not going to remember the end of the

Year remember toou push let’s move on to post career retirement yeah let’s talk retirement K yeah just for YouTube um Chris you retired in 2019 though you officially retired in 2022 uh what’s it been like since hanging it up what’s what’s how is it different shall I I mean it’s it is

Different man because it just feels like um it’s a little boring Kels okay you don’t have the intensity of football you know and that’s that’s something that’s been a little bit of an adjustment every day you you know you know how it is like it’s it’s such a physically intense

Competitive Sport and you know you always feel like you have to get ready for Camp you have to get ready for OTAs you have to get ready for practice the next day the game this week things like that and you don’t necessarily have that the other thing about um football is

Like your failures and successes are measured in such a black and white way yeah and that’s something you get so accustomed to as a player and it’s not like that in the real world you know we talked about that a little bit this morning yeah uh so that’s a big thing

But you know for me like I I’m just trying to live and uh spend as much time with like friends and family catch up on travel and hang out with you guys at the Super Bowl and do stuff like that that you can’t do when you’re playing because

You’re so committed to training and getting your body right and things like that and that’s that’s what’s been fun for me is to just kind of do things in a completely different way live my life in in a way that I was never able to live

When I was playing and then like you know lose a lot of weight I was 335 PBS you know up until a couple years ago what’s that what are you today probably 278 wow yeah carries a well yeah um but I mean I’m sure whenever you decide to

Retire KS you know you lose that weight you get so much more you have so much more energy man and it’s it’s nice to not feel so fat and sweaty and sloppy all the time but then you get old which hasn’t happened to you youth is a

State of mind chis you know right around now youth is a state of mind brother yeah I mean it’s it’s it’s it’s challenging but it’s fun I mean that’s why I love doing the Pod with Chris and green light facts in the king is it’s just an excuse to hang out with your

Boys and talk about football man and that’s what you miss the most you talk to any guy that’s retired and ask them what they miss about the game if they don’t say the guys in the locker room like they’re phony that’s that’s how I feel about it

I love it I was going to have a different answer than no I I do actually miss y’all man and um I think more than anything it’s like you can get in a big room full of people and fill your cup socially but we’re different in a way

Yeah like we just are and I think that’s the hardest thing like you can go to work some awesome place but there’s no Lane yeah there’s no Jason there’s no B they’re just we’re just different for all our shortcomings and ways that all our wives and significant others and

friends get perfect Chris they get they get frustrated with us because of things we misplace or you know like whatever but um we also have like really specific mindsets and like you know we’re we are high Achievers we’re Meat Heads and the whole thing but like so

You get in certain situations and you’re like damn I just it is the locker room but it’s also the absence of like my kind of guy yeah you know and and I also think like it’s a huge existential crisis man whether you think you’re ready or not your life changes and uh

And yeah you’ve been given a routine for yeah you know you feel like the guy in Shaw Shank who’s at the grocery store it’s like I’ve been thinking about the grocery store for 11 years and the grocery store sucks yeah no I’m not the the Brooks thing because I left the

Grocery store yes and continued on my way but like it’s you okay Chris you’re good no but it’s you you miss you miss you miss the the the hard stuff dude yeah you need the hard stuff you need to be challenged and life is is is it’s not as hard and I think

That’s where guys struggle is like you got to do like killer you got to get out and challenge yourself every once in a while that’s the thing I miss it’s the guys and it’s like the feedback back Loop for you or for me it was like the challenge every day of like

This is real yeah you know it’s hard to find that so good luck all right let’s move on to something lighter we gotta ask yeah that’s our segment uh we got to ask but you don’t have to answer uh feel free to answer if you so choose

All right um we like to ask all of our guests what their welcome to the NFL moment Chris starting with you uh is there a specific moment you can point to yeah I was really hyped about getting drafted and all that and then got the elevator at Radio City Music Hall and

There were two like huge dudes in there who were and they were guys on the Rams and I was like Hey guys and they were like get ready to get to work oh W like you know at that point I was like okay this is different I I think it was like uh

Probably my first preseason game and just the only way I can liken it to was like standing on a highway yeah and the cars are whipping by you and you’re just like I don’t know where anything’s going where’s the ball yeah you know like it’s just the offenses are so fast going to

Play Philly my first game ever was in Philly at the link we got beat like 34 to three it was Trey Thomas John R Westbrook McNab I just remember the noise bro it was like every play was a deep shot and we oh it was Stephen Jackson getting lit up by Shephard Leo

Shephard Leo Shephard uh knocked his helmet in the air I’ve been staring at Stephen Jackson all camp like who hits this guy he’s enormous not me and then the first time he gets out in the open field in my pro career I see him just get decapitated I’m like bro holy

Yeah the whole thing well I’m trying to think I remember I got drafted I was seventh round pick yeah I was like lowkey kind of surprised to get drafted so I was like pumped and I you know celebrating a little bit with the family at the house it was a stressful day for

Me and uh get a call uh you know from a 215 area code and it’s you know hey it’s this is Chip Kelly like decid to draft you like talk to chip coach ask at the time you know proceed to have a couple drinks get a phone call 10

Minutes later it’s James Harris who is chips like rightand man at the time he’s like hey bro this is James Harris blah we’re going to need you to go through your social media and delete this this this delete this photo delete this post delete this remember you had a very uh

There’s a shirtless photo of you on a dock you had a sexual photo we need you to delete that I was like oh okay so you weren’t saying bad things no I was just you know thatle just being myself it wasn’t anything like you know inappropriate it was just me like a gono

Allison tweet if you still have that photo can we have it so we can put it in this tell tell the boys to look it up it’s just me on a like my hair down like with a sunset in the background isn’t there like wasn’t there like a pose of

You on like a bed with uh I don’t know what you’re talking about and uh Mike honcho yeah but that was so that was the first one I was like oh this is a serious uh Business Like You better lock it in I didn’t even go

On social media for that whole thing but then from a football standpoint we get in for for rookie mini camp and it’s like not full rosters you know how they like bring local guys in and we didn’t I don’t even know how many people we had

Out there for rookie mini camp but it was chips offense yeah right and we only had like you know we didn’t have like three full defenses you know what I mean had like two and so we must I bet you I took 65 SNS oh God I was like no no

Huddle Chip Kelly offense I remember walking out the field being like buddy you better get on the elliptical man it was it was serious so I think that that was probably mine man just like the like the speed and uh how fast the chip was running those plays was

Wasn’t something that I’d really experienced at that point we’ve asked this before what’s harder NFL player or a podcaster the’re different if you couldn’t get injured football’s easier yeah but football it’s like you’re always dealing with something so it’s hard to even know what you’re going to feel like day to

Day mhm podcasting is kind of hard yeah it can be hard yeah I think uh yeah I think it is yeah I don’t know it’s hard in a different way it’s not hard like a grueling way it’s hard there’s no stats there’s no well there are stats like you guys are killing it

But you also care I care if people like your show yeah like I I would rather people love my show and do like medium numbers then and you’re doing both cuz you’re hitting out of the park and people really like your stuff cuz you’re authentic but like there are shortcuts I

Don’t want to take those you know like podcasting is hard because you don’t know if people like your yeah like you can get on Twitter and you know like the the most angry people are going to Tweet at you and the the biggest fans are going to Tweet at you but like you

Get the extremes what do people that respect you think you’re you’re opening your mouth like I don’t want to do this all the time I can be really quiet sometimes like in this situation it can be unnatural so I think it’s just like when we played you made a Play Everybody

Cheered yeah when you played you you could look at the stat sheet or the film would be like objectively I played well the hard part is there’s no like answer it’s like could could could I be better could I do this differently I don’t know it’s there’s no audience right they’re all

Invisible they’re not here they’re not real uh yeah I’m having a hard hard time podcast that’s what I’m saying hard brevity is the soul of way Chris you the soul of wh brevity is the soul of Wht baby short and sweet the soul yeah is it yeah is that what they said

That’s a Shakespearean quote okay um I’ve recently referred to Minnesota b as the whitest place on Earth we’re gonna sit here and talk about my beautiful Home St now I’m want a Super Bowl in I’m giving you a chance to say was that an accurate statement I

Remember when we played in the Super Bowl made this statement all you could talk about was like oh oh you’re from a place where the most well-known thing is a mall a giant mall that’s so cool so cool and then I remember being like K you’re going to love it man it’s

Beautiful like so many Great Lakes so many it’s so like you know nature and then we show up and it’s negative 10 degrees outside you’re like yeah this place yeah so what are you asking me about Minnesota kills like the whites is it is it white

Yes yeah Chris you were drafted by the St Louis Rams second overall Bo you were drafted by the Eagles in seventh round uh did either of you almost go to another team yeah you yeah the um well it’s weird man cuz when you get to the later

Rounds like I was feeling calls about being a free agent yeah so I was on the phone with Harbaugh from Baltimore he’s like if he’s like he’s like hey we really want you like I promise you like you’re going to be on the roster I’m

Like okay like and then I hey I got to go I’m getting a 215 are Co call um so I remember that but also I think the SE I learned later in my career that the Seahawks really wanted to draft me and convert me to offensive line and I I

Mean that would have been what could have do you would have been a great guard incredible guard you’re a great nose guard too so I think about in an alternate reality somewhere I’m out there still playing playing Right Guard baby Jeff stoutland salivating thinking about this right now Stout I’d play for

You if you’re if you’re watching this Stout I know you’re a big fan of the Pod I would play Right Guard for you love Stout what about you I don’t know it could have been somebody else I guess I mean the night before I got a call a we

Out partying and uh somebody pulls me in a bathroom stall and they’re like it’s got one hand and I’m like and he’s like never mind no he really did he drafted me and uh couldn’t believe it and then uh you know it could have been like it was like

The Jets and the Raiders and they were like you know cuz Dad played for the Raiders so if IID fell a little bit could have been Kansas City Kansas City was right behind me they took like Glen dorsy like there were a lot of teams in

There could have gone a lot of different ways but it is kind of weird being towards the top cuz you’re like it’s only so many teams right it got of take some of the fun out I hate to say that well yeah there’s less factors of it’s

Shaking out beforehand like and you know the team’s going to be bad like if you get picking the top five team’s going to be bad yeah so I was had a pretty realistic idea but getting in the elevator with those guys was a real eye

Opener they were not in a good mood like I was like oh great we’ll go to a place where everybody’s mad perfect perfect and hates me uh best bar in Philly oh man where do we even start you already mentioned Buffalo I love buffalo Billard man like cuz like you live right

There Cel had his restaurant right there and we just go over and abuse him yeah Buffalo billi I love buffalo bil we that’s the place we used to go after games yeah Chris and I tried to go out in Philly last year that bar no the bar

From New Year’s we’re not going to give oh yeah Tavern on Brad Tavern on it’s closed now I thought he bowed me I I I basically Grace was underage at the time and like really want to go out yeah after a game and it’s New Year’s Eve and

Like I was like all right we’re going to go to underager Bar Chris I got like a table like 34y old mey old Meg brought your whole family was in that little VIP section yes it was like up in the back which I didn’t even know there was like

A little up section there K Kel was smart he walked in and turned right back around out yeah like you know like the uh like the Simpson thing where he like puts his hat down turns back around red in it was terrible I mean like it so

Funny it’s not the bar nothing against the bar but like and nothing against the people but I’m 33 I love you it it was there too I’m a big New Year’s Guy dude I really am I love it bro you rang in the new year with the Allen family I

Know but I also rang in with a bunch of people on like Tik Tock and with like gigap pet like they’re like yeah I Tri 17 I’m sorry here’s a public apology I’m sorry that was funny though yeah well doesn’t do me any good now can’t get that New Year’s

Back legendary Chris was like did you know it was going to be like that I was like no no not at all it’s not like this every single time we go no idea I fun Meg was getting ready to fight like 5 S 23 they were just staring at Chris dude

It was so funny man oh gosh what are your guys honest thoughts on the new heights golden baby out there it’s weird no I like the go it’s my favorite branding thing you’ve done I think The Branding on the show is great like the merch the the font the

Colors nice green lights by the way hey you know this guy and uh and then uh I just think the baby’s a great touch the baby’s a bit much this is how I know you’re surrounded by yes men okay yeah like hey guys I got this great idea we’re gonna get this massive

200 lb baby can some have another a differing opinion the baby I just think someone needs to tell you the baby’s weird dude no I know it’s weird you’re not telling me anything I don’t know I’m going to win that B I like weird I’m going to win that but see how

Bad you want it cuz it’s weird I’m going to if it was just a regular trophy would you want it that much I like the cop the cop is nice if that baby’s at a bar and you walk into the bar and the baby’s behind the bar like

You’re like I’m staying here like I’m it’s like a weird Babylonian false idol no it looks like a it looks like a a Midwestern kid that that that like was just too big look into the baby’s eyes any it’s like the Mona Lisa anywhere you’re at in the room you’re

Really over analizing baby kelse unveiled the baby to me a couple weeks ago can I yeah when I was in Philly um you know for the game against the Cardinals and yeah that baby’s like a grown man dude can you explain the baby like so you win the baby at I mean we

Honestly we’re still trying to figure it out so you don’t win the baby that baby will stay I want the baby you we are thinking about having a miniature version of like a baby it’s like 8 to 12 in 8 to 12 inch baby oh that’s in the

Same form of that and the cup instead of being 32 ounces will be a shot glass but that baby will live in perpetuity everybody who wins a competition or that that baby represented you’ll be able to sign the baby let’s win the baby let’s do it dude that’ll get you that’ll get

You a baby I think we still do it I I I I outrank him in Montana He didn’t come out of his trailer the next day till 6: p.m. wow yeah it took him through the ringer a way game for me old man still a

Way game was a way game game for me on his home he had electrolytes he had his beautiful wife Tak care of him in I was in a goddamn Airstream trailer and his driveway talk about how I outrank it I got locked out of the thing

Too he’s mad what what are your you did I did that night that night yeah what are your favorite uh what’s your favorite story from your time with the Eagles do you have one I have I have a good one um now obviously can’t say just like winning the Super Bowl It’s gotta

Be no I mean I’ll never what if somebody gave you that answer winning the Super Bowl no I mean this was actually a really cool can I be serious for a moment tell from my heart okay so it’s not a funny story no it’s not no but uh

How much pressure we took off the story by joking but go ahead good work dude um what the was I talking about you gonna deliver a really heart fil no so in uh Doug and Jim’s first year Benny went down against the red the the Redskins at the time the commanders yeah

So was my first time I got to play like a very significant role and this was at FedEx um you know in Washington and uh all all like I was a little you know you’re nervous the first time I was playing like very very significant snaps and all I was I was

Like I’m just going to do everything I can to just play as hard as I can like run as hard as I can to the ball uh just try to be as physical as I can shut my brain off and just give like as much effort as possible you know classic you

Know white dine and um and I remember just like this is is a good way to just kind of you know get back to the basics you know and I and I tried really hard to do that and I remember Brian Dawkins came up to me in the hallways of the the NovaCare

And like commented that on on how hard I played that’s awesome he’s like that was a really cool thing like don’t ever change that and so I never did it like a corn memory for me awes do like for for him to notice that like a legendary feel

Like hey man you were like running your ass off to the ball like that don’t ever change that I was like yes sir like I never will if you sat at your breakfast table cuz you used should just hang out yeah if he sat at your breakfast table

You were ready to like go tattoo ter Tate the next person you saw in the hallway it’s like 9:00 a.m. he would just star into your soul there was no lying to be dog yeah it would be crazy to play with him I my favorite I guess

The first thing that popped up in my head was and you know it wasn’t Super Bowl year but it was the year after and I think that year is special cuz like you really again it’s hard like you know it’s we’re four and six and the whole

Thing and yeah we came up short but I can remember having to win that game in Washington and then we needed something to happen and so we went in the locker room and we won the game and we went in the locker room and we were all crowded

In uh Doug’s office yeah watching Minnesota and Chicago was it Chicago I don’t know but it was Minnesota definitely and it was like eight nine of us mhm a lot of us were older you don’t get these memories a lot anymore yeah and I just knew sitting in there watching I’m like this

Could be the last time that like you get do something like this and sure enough it was two weeks later but yeah the ball dropped our way yep and that didn’t happen we don’t go double doink MH you know even the New Orleans loss like it

Was it was a terrible loss but just I was glad we we got there we got there and I mean we had a chance to win it there at the I mean the we played New Orleans earlier in that year and just got spanked yeah and that was like a

Reverse from that was a reverse from the Super Bowl the year before the defense killed it that game against Drew Brees a phen I mean it was a phenomenal performance what about you K what what’s your my favorite memory as an eagle I think my favorite memory there’s man

This is difficult yeah see yeah no fun when the rabbits got the gun I feel like one of dig deep buddy I think I think the the ones that like really are the most jarring are your first days in the NFL and I will say this and I

Still think it like I will never forget the first time I saw Jason Peters do a one-on-one pass set yeah it was a like I don’t know if I can play this Le type moment like it was that impressive and how big he was and how and how

Balanced and how athletic it was um that’s definitely one of them um my favorite moment I mean might be Tavern on Broad that New Year’s Eve not the one not not not the one come on not the one that I was there yes f um I’ll say this because it was it

Was a great memory uh I the going to Buffalo Bills meeting my wife and passing out after getting drunk with a bunch of my teammates that was that holiday party was fun too it was a great holiday party remember yeah it was a rough year but the thing is some of the

Stuff like some of your favorite memories is crazy like it’s just like random around the locker room playing in the back of the locker room back really not football related it’s all or like or like seeing JP roll up in his conversion van dude this is oh I

Can’t even say this one of my JP has so many he’s just iconic icon and he was so cool yeah he would like take care of the younger guys man like like like I’ve been around some Hall of Famers and like great players and guys that thought they

Were Hall of Famers and they weren’t and like they just don’t help people some of them and like some of them do and it’s like awesome to see and Jason was always like willing to help guys and like anybody anybody I have a hilarious JP story dude so like I used

To wear these Lululemon headbands M all the time lemon headand and uh Emily actually was the one that like them for me and I remember like walking to the locker room one day JP goes hey I like that headband that’s cool I was like yeah thanks bro like just pumped you

Know anytime he spoke to you about something like you’re pumped he’s like yeah let me get 10 of those I’m like what he’s like yeah like can you bring me 10 of those and I’m like yeah yeah I got you bro so I run I run to Lululemon

After practice try to get 10 of these black headbands like clean them out there’s like seven go to a different Lululemon get three more I’m like really proud of myself CU I come back the next day I got all these Lululemon headbands for my gave him to him and I was like

Here bro like I got these for you he’s like all right thanks and I never saw him wore one he never wore one one time one time I was like I just want to be like yo can I get those bat never wore them one time that’s inredible he’s still wearing them just

Wears them the playing football dude incredible how crazy is that bro every time I turn on a game I’m like oh my God Jason’s still doing it it’s insan he played against us this year did play that position at 42 incredible man is he

42 or 4 yeah 41 or 42 41 whatever it is yeah still wild prostate check still playing the NFL all right that’s it guys sorry um we did it thanks for coming on long overdue we we love you I had so many laughs and

I love you guys we love you love you hey welcome back all righty well that wraps up another episode of new heights thank you again to Chris long and Bo Allen for joining the show make sure you’re subscribe to the new heights Channel on YouTube so you know when all the new

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37 Comments

  1. I remember a episode where Kylie said Jason was a better podcaster than Trav that obviously isn’t true after listening to this episode

  2. Now I have to go back & watch SB52. I was pulling for y’all to beat the Pats. I’m a #whodat so I didn’t have a dog in that fight but I just love football & really wanted y’all to beat Tom Brady

  3. Gosh — all this specificity is so interesting and it would be great to understand more what it all means. But fun and interesting!

  4. D.Wolfe was my sons roommate freshman year and he bent the futon I bought for the door. It looked like a U after a few months

  5. Was really nice to see the conversation between Jason, Chris, and Beau. Respect to all the Swifties , my own wife is one, just want to let ya know there's a lot of appreciation for the football of it all. It's rare to get insights into these positions and I want more of it.

  6. The Eagles were never the same after Sirianni had that goofy moment yelling in the tunnel after the Chiefs game. It was like that was their Super Bowl and they didn’t have as much to play for after that.

  7. Jase, you better tell Travis to buy an Aussie 🦘 Argyle Pink 🩷 Diamond (Engagement ring)💍💎. Theyre so rare now and priceless, just like Taytay. 😻🇦🇺💯

  8. Travis should remember all the kids watching him be drunk! Not a good look! Jason: what about Wyatt, Bennett and Elliotte?

  9. Jason, I am a Chiefs fan and I'm 71 year old grandma from KC but never in my life have I learned so much about football than when U and your brother started this podcast. If anyone had told me I would be watching anything about football other than the game on Sunday I would have laughed my a## off but here Iam! But U guys have to remember that half the time I'm sitting here going what the hell are they talking about! Some of the terms U guys use I have no idea what that is! I still for the life of me cannot figure out what the "tush push" is. It's been explained to me but I still don't get it! I would just like to see it demonstrated so I would finally get it!! But keep it up U guys are great!

  10. I love the ep’s with true football guests. This one especially (as far as I’ve watched thus far) – is an episode for the true players/fans. Alot of the ep’s this season have felt… idk – watered down(? For lack of a better term) for all of the new watchers due to the personal life of the boys.

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