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Do you want to bet I’ll bet back 35 you bet front 35 what uh what are we going to bet the loser has to put a bumper sticker on their car no I wouldn’t do that I I wouldn’t agree to that experience experience Batman Experience Batman experience experience welcome to the pat Mayo experience Genesis Invitational picks bets one and done plus a recap of what happed happened last week if you want to play in the listeners League let’s get that thing full the link is down in the description right now smash

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Rent it it’s like a buck 99 on Amazon uh if you want to pay attention to the show or you just skip it one of the two uh no show next week for the Mexico open however I believe that Tambo is going to sit in my seat and do the Mexico open

DraftKings picks in preview so we will have content for that coming out we already have the bets in on Fina from the first week of the year I like Vegas Jake knp and I might have to go with Paul’s boy Andrew Novak Jeff Feinberg

Who uh tried to put on a little bit of run in Phoenix this week yeah Novak Novak well Novak hang hung around uh Phoenix was a [ __ ] show Phoenix was a [ __ ] show by all accounts it was a brand new level of uh debauchery so we’ll see what happens

Next well it because of this we don’t just need me and Jeff to break this all down what we need is an outsider opinion who watch some live watch some PGA and has some takes on Tiger Woods’s return to the PGA Tour it is UST tand That’s Not My

Name Tiger’s back he is I’m excited I think he’ll play well really I do actually think he’ll play well like make the cut play well absolutely it would be bad if he didn’t make there six a very small cut no not just make the cut play well like top 20

Really yeah I think you could finish top 20 I mean that would be big so Jeff kind of hit on it so let’s talk about Phoenix First all of the weather delays the debauchery this is two weeks in a row where the PJ had really lined up well to

Kind of get people excited for at least the players into the Masters and try to create some sort of momentum with the weather has not cooperated whatsoever like the although I don’t like the limited field events having your best 80 players play at Pebble Beach without the amateurs ruining everything on the

Weekend is a perfect situation for the PGA Tour one of its most famous courses and then you don’t get the final round Phoenix is just a tournament everyone wants to go to they want to watch people get excited for it even with the not as

Strong field it was still a good feel we had the names at the top of the leaderboard but Saturday I mean we had the frost delays every day the cut got pushed a Saturday they tried to get into to play the holes it ran into the Super

Bowl it’s never a good thing but the debauchery you speak of Jeff pretty sure I mean a few bad actors can make it look really bad for one thing it was a record crowd there on Saturday and I think the thing that push it over the top was the

Weather delay when you just have a 100,000 people standing around drinking and doing absolutely nothing and like no one’s patrolling there’s no golf going on they’re just left to their own devices that is not a good recipe for Success they were not using the waste management water bottle refilling stations that’s for sure

So we’re all very familiar with what the tournament is a lot of players embrace it whether they you know fake embrace it or really like it everyone who’s in the field for the most part knows exactly what they’re getting into Pat you you two have been there yourselves by all

Accounts by people who had been there multiple years by players who had played it before there was just a simply new level of um disgusting behavior of Relentless heckling that that wasn’t just limited to the 16th hole apparently it made its way through the entire property um you saw a player like B

Hungan he’s like I’ve played in this tournament five or six times I know exactly what I’m signing up for this was nothing like I’d ever seen here and I have a like they know what they’re signing up for so I don’t know what’s going to happen I mean yeah it’s

Probably the weather delay the PGA can’t really rein it in because this tournament to many golf fans is their favorite thing about Golf and in this new golf like ecosystem it’d be really bad for the PGA to try to like rein in some people’s favorite thing that the

PGA even has going for it in this time of uh B Tour battle but yeah uh seemed like fun seemed like the college kids had a great time I’m a little jealous little worn out second week in a row the golf Gods who said here watch Liv and

Fewer people watch Liv this week although more people watched in person than they did the week before yes so there’s that it’s not like there was a ton of people at the living but another great another great leaderboard more compelling golf down the stretch you got

ROM shanking balls I wouldn’t say it was more compelling down the stretch whatsoever pretty more I say it was comparable down the stretch is quite compelling golf with big names yeah with John ROM John ROM left the PGA Tour Jeff because he can’t close and he’s like I

Need to take the guaranteed money Jack Lemon from Glen Gary I can’t I can’t close turtle yeah he’s not an ABC on the live tour anymore that’s two weeks in a row John ROM Has It by the balls coming down the he shanked a shot shanked it in

Contention with three holes left in Vegas I don’t want to make that I tuned in for a bit I had a Bryson ticket so I kind of tuned out and then I wanted to watch the end so I tuned back in and watched him d himself in gasoline and

Set himself on fire which is what he did essentially people um you know for all the entertainers that Liv has you know people can think DJ’s boring but I think DJ’s magic like I I get so enamored watching DJ play great I love it I love it as much as

Anyone else in PR felt like Bryson’s turn he was up what up by two I I had a bad weekend when it came to the outrights because I think that Bryson was the leader going into the final day and he just didn’t have it on Saturday on Liv I had the gala who

Was leading going into the final round and dude just had nothing nothing in the final round just all day Saturday he had absolutely nothing even at the beginning of the third round when he was the leader he came out and bogey the first two holes on Saturday he’s gonna win one

Of these big tournaments he’s just around too much not to it feels like and he someone pointed out to me Jeff that the gala kind of has his happy places now where he just you lock him in for a top 10 no matter where it is he’s sort of like Bubba in that

Way yeah I guess he’s he’s going to be a horse for some courses I I had him as well he just couldn’t get it going got I don’t know may the whole jumbled everything it all uh it it didn’t you should say like it had a negative effect

But Nick Taylor won from the last group in a not reset t- sheet so you know the guy he was playing with rose above all of it so it’s hard to make an excuse for him yeah I I don’t mind like obviously they had to get the guys back out on the

Course if they wanted to finish with daylight on Sunday they did not want to I mean they didn’t want to go into the Super Bowl to begin with then that the weather just didn’t allow for it they had to go into it uh but we watched the

Entire thing we watch both screens at the same time comp it like the final three hours of golf were awesome inoen absolutely compelling golf like the PGA got great golf it was the first time all season that I like was really interested in what was going on like I couldn’t get

Excited about Nick Dunlap really that seem that that that story seems like right up your alley yeah I couldn’t get excited for it uh here was Hoffman trying to make a big run and anyway I just is it because you knew Hoffman I knew Hoffman I know Taylor their names I

Knower F sheer yeah the reason why lives got a great strategy is because they just have big names and so it’s the same thing with this when the big names are in the hunt and you have maybe one guy you didn’t expect there that that’s what

You want Nick is not a big name well now he’s won two PGA Tour events in six months so like for seven months so he’s getting there sure but I mean he’s not speed spe hasn’t won two spe’s right there and uh Thomas is Adam Scott played

Great but You’ never know because they showed one shot of his all Sunday even though he was finished ninth or whatever he played on the other he he played he was on the other side of the course and then had a really nice Sunday now he

Returns to Riviera where you know he’s a former champion at this event this is a pretty sticky course history type spot as well but [ __ ] Sheffer man no well he he made every putt early which meant he was going to miss every putt late that’s precisely what he came to pass

But he has the range like when you like je I actually thought that like all day Sunday because I watched all of it I kind of like like 27 holes on a Sunday I find it super compelling I don’t like obviously how long it goes to and

Spilling into the Super Bowl but like Sheffer was I mean Hoffman was a man on a mission cuz he actually kept it together made all the putts but Sheffer like there was at one point like say he made five birdies in the morning in a

Row and then he had a chance to make five in a row again on holes 2 three four five and six in his final round and he finally missed the putt on number six and I wouldn’t say like it broke his putting hot streak because he ended up

Gaining Strokes putting in the final round although he lost almost three on holes I think it was 12 no it was 13 14 and 15 he lost almost three Strokes putting yet still finishing the positive for the round just if Scotty sheffer’s biggest downfall is that he hits the

Ball too close to the pin on approaches I could say so much but at the same time what is there to say like he got hot then he’s missing three Footers on the end of round three Pat he had a 25f footer on 18 he hit the ball

He puted it into the bunker that’s strategy though you can’t threee putt from the bunker and and don’t get me wrong like yes there are some runoffs and the sun was out but we’re talking about a course that rained a course that had three day four days of frost delay like we’re not

Talking about some out of control stip meter of a course that got away he put it into the bunker from 25 feet not good and everybody was funny because that happened and then you watch like the gala and Taylor come through I I actually think Taylor hit pretty close

The gala had exactly the same PT like on the next group through and put it to like an inch mhm like no no no one even came close to doing what Sheffer did no it was outrageous but are we going to look back at this part of Scotty sheffer’s career where ball striking

Wise Tia green wise he’s essentially 2000’s tiger like the numbers dictate that it is the best 18mon stretch two-year run whatever ball striking wise that basically we’ve seen since the very peak of tiger and he’s going to walk away with it with like four wins but he has 20 top 10

Like this isn’t going to last forever like he’s going to go back to being like somewhat human he also be a great ball Striker but this level so much better than everyone else and he just wasn’t able to cash that many first place checks how many times did he win last

Year two won Phoenix he won Phoenix and you won the Players right and he won the Players yeah those two that was it in the year before he won four because he won them all in a row he won Phoenix beill Augusta Augusta I think he won the

Match play yeah he won the match play I mean I still think that Sam Burns gave this Tournament away more thaner did don’t talk to me about that but whatever oh he did like Sam Burns if he just had a average short game on on Sunday he wins that tournament okay so I

I think we can we can spin this one of two ways he was so far behind that nothing could go wrong for him cuz just to like just to see where the final score ended up he needed it cuz I think that I I can look into it I believe he

Got to 17 When leaders were at 18 but he was already through the birdie holes so yeah to Pat’s Point like he could never get to what was it 21 well the thing is like he he actually putted pretty well for like the overall course they let say

Yeah he gained 1.3 Strokes putting in the final round but that’s because he made the 30 foot Eagle like stuff that he had to make to claw back into it but he missed three putts in like the first seven holes from inside 5T that that was really the

Difference for him that but I mean he shot 64 he shot the round of the day yeah but think like oh yeah but it was out there for him like the way that he was driving the ball was amazing I I just every like Taylor was having problems going right the all day

Saturday all day he need to hit that bunker on 18 with the ball just pops yeah happen both times well they talked about him teeing it up low I mean that’s why you Tee It Up low like Hoffman looked like he was falling over on every

Just dead center every time well and he was walking around with that poor back brace on during I I said to Pat we were watching him warm up on the Range and like going to the he still has his back brace on this is not good for those of

Us who desper heating pad whatever it was I was like I really want Hoffman to win but this is not inspiring confidence and but he didn’t play poorly in the playoff no he just got beat yeah like Hoffman didn’t do anything wrong he just got beat there was a point like when we

Were I forget what hole it was it was probably like four or five like Taylor was playing like crap but even on number three like he had to take a penalty yeah and then he had then he had to hit it below the tree to get it back into the

Fairway on the easy par five put it in the put it in the bunker and then he put his bunker shot to like two feet and saved car that way like the amount of scrambling he did was outrageous like if it was 60 feet from the rough getting it

Up and down that was to 5T and there was like every he birdied what five of the final six holes including the two playoff holes every time that he stood up to a 15t putt it was just in timeall was the opposite he missed that

On 11 he finally it felt like he finally had some momentum going and he was only a shot back and he stuck it it was a beautiful shot on probably the hardest Par Four on the course he hit that draw in he hit the hill and he had it to like

Eight feet and he lipped out the Putt and that was the end of theala yep that was it Nick Taylor’s week even like before Sunday it was literally like when JT’s amazing in big tournaments and he has to lay up to like the 120 yard range and

Then he sticks it to 4 feet to make par there was twice round two and round three he didn’t just do what he did to in regulation and the playoff on 18 his scrambling on 18 in rounds two and three may have also won him this tournament

Because he was short of the green had to lay up had [ __ ] drives and he hit he hits it to like three feet it helps that he shot like 60 or on on Thursdays yeah that got had all those to play with too when you shoot 60 at a course which is

Happening a lot these days people are shooting in the 50s got got Strokes early all the time now you put him in his back pocket yeah well I mean congratulations on your 180 to1 hit yeah it’s fantastic we saw a lot of people in the pme universe hit Nick Taylor tickets a

Couple people thanked me because you’re like yeah thanks for the tip on Taylor it’s like it’s the one week all year I didn’t bet Nick Taylor I bet him at every tournament I don’t know why I didn’t V him shortest odds of the year to win yeah 125 to one or something like

That that’s the range it’s either you take you know 20 less than 15 to one or shorter or you take someone who’s 100 to one yeah not not that middle range has zero value anymore not great for Jeff I’m going to lose a lot of money this

Week me me too trust me on that one I’m already loaded I feel very good going to win this week actually very good of what’s going to win this week okay interesting we’ll see about that so let’s just talk about Hoffman a little bit sure um they said they said on the

Broadcast so there was two things that I didn’t realize I didn’t realize that he was on the players Council and now he wasn’t and kizner kind of kept making the point that it’s awful like it’s it’s horrible to be on it takes up a lot of

Your time and you can’t focus on Golf and that hoffen would always stand up for stuff that was good for the tour and not good for him necessarily like he was beloved I mean I feel like kizner is gonna say that I feel like kizner is a pretty straight shooter from the what

We’ve heard the last few weeks yeah I like that kizner will give people [ __ ] I think he speaks his mind which is the virtue you want in somebody in that chair I I saw people were getting a bit fatigued on Saturday Jeff when they had kizner and smiley at 16 and basically

All they were showing were shots at 16 they weren’t showing any of the actual coverage and I think it had to do with the delay because everything got pushed so late that you could have had your main CBS or NBC coverage this week and then put that on Golf Channel and then

You would have two separate feeds I think that was the plan but then weather got in the way but I just it felt like Kevin k was just having a Time on 16 he was just giving people [ __ ] he was booing people it was pretty funny yeah Smiley’s got a hard time keeping

That little bit Yeah well he he wants like kizner is still an active PGA Tour player too like this is just something he’s dipping his toe into the water so he can still be critical and give people [ __ ] like what’s Smiley G to give people [ __ ] about he’s like hey I’m Jordan

Speed’s friend yeah exactly me he did win on he’s the new not of bay in a way yeah he kind of is the new not to beay yeah so yeah I’m with you on that so what did you enjoy from the tournament we did notice that kittama

And spe saw every inch of that course and kittama kittama and tickly he was everywhere you don’t want to be but spe I expect that too I suppose but it was just like kittama was doing a spe imp impersonation and he made one when he finally made that bogey yeah it was just

Like yeah that’s Kitty ama’s second bogey of the of the whole tournament how is that possible he’s been every Z code except the Fairway all day he like oh here’s kyama in the in the desert oh here he is hitting from a cart path it’s

Like what’s going on here spe is my this is my favorite spe ever I was annoyed obviously as longtime listeners know early when he was taking money out of DJ and coocher Pockets um and then I I gloated for a bit as my prognostication came totally

True and then he was easy to cheer for when he because he hit rock bottom but I like what we are getting now I adore like like the guy that’s like first page leaderboard dead last in approach just a total circus of events but the Magic in

Between it I this is my favorite version you can have of this guy it’s not that dissimilar from everything he always did just like oh Jordan Jordan miss the easiest super heightened at the moment I I suppose I mean this one in particular I think he

HED out from the bunker twice he kept chipping things in it was it was just V and missing short putts but making 35 Footers it was it was very vintage speed yeah it was no but like in terms of a TV product he is my like my favorite thing

To watch outside of you know the guys who I truly like are my favorite players two guys really did let me down throughout the course of not really let me down cuz I didn’t have any camera young anywhere to speak of but it felt like he was like I thought that he was

Going to do what burns did in the final round cuz I think he opened with a birdie on one made a really long Putt and just missed on number two and then he just went away we didn’t see they couldn’t get him off TV fast enough and

Then he I think he birdied 16 and 17 so then he got back on TV for a little bit and then there was just poor Justin Thomas who was at the same number basically the he was in like T6 the entire tournament just didn’t see anything from JT fact they cut to him

And they commercial right away yeah but again I’m proud of myself for not betting him if he had just take a look at the leaders like Sheffer was just above Break Even putting almost ex he actually gained exactly the same amount of Strokes 04 as Justin Thomas so obviously

The ball striking for Sheffer was much much better but Thomas is going to kill us one of these weeks when he finds the Putter and he’s just going to win by like who was it they said is a perfect ball Striker and a perfect short game

Player I can’t remember who it was if that were he would win every tournament they they cut to someone they’re like oh my God like his his ball striking like one of the best on tour it’s like but he’s even better on the greens and it

Was just some [ __ ] player like a guy who comes misses the cutter comes t40 every week like the way that you’ve now described this guy he is he is Scotty Sheffer butkin butt yeah but it was just some as for cam as for cam young I I almost found myself cheering against him

Because I was so close to betting him I spoke glowingly about him on last week’s show and he got himself right into it at the start of the day and then he got to the par five and it’s gozone in the Fairway and then he hits it in the

Bunker and then he hits it over the green and then it’s just like [ __ ] man and then he misses a short Putt and then he makes so he pars the part five then he goes to a part three and makes bogey you like don’t see him again all that

Being said is I like cam young this week I I have bet on cam young this week as well oh and I and I never bet on cam young so no but it’s high you see the form he’s playing well and the numberers big right it was a big Fair number like

I don’t feel like I’m getting ripped off what I took this morning no for a 65 person event now I would agree with you on that Hideki kind of made some runs so yeah the guys I mentioned Vegas because I he Vegas played with Burns and burger

Uh in one of the featured groups that we just I was at the office so we had all the featured groups on Vegas played really well like ball striking wise the entire week I think that if he does end up playing in Mexico like he’s a legit

Bet do you know who I saw life of that I like and I wish we were getting something bigger this week you might have already bet him I’m sure we’ll talk about him Connors well there’s some big ones there but shorter down the board uh if you

Adam Scott I saw some things I like there yeah his his number already got crushed since open [ __ ] really it was short to begin with wasn’t even big at the start yeah he’s down to 35 to one yeah man I don’t know if I trust them to

Win but I I really like them I see I thought that Hoffman was going to win only because no one had any Charlie Hoffman money whatsoever and it would have been like cuz there was all these names in the mix you had Sheffer you had Taylor theala Burns spe Thomas allala

Had a big crowd there cheering for him everyone did there was not a player according to the broadcasting that didn’t have a huge crowd I guess when you have huge crowds that’s going to happen uh however everyone had money on like one or two of those guys to win

This tournament the only two outliers were Andrew Novak and Charlie Hoffman I was like well the Super Bowl’s in Vegas this is basically walking up to the roulette table and double zero hitting Charlie Hoffman what were Hoffman’s odds they I I don’t know I assume they were

Like 400 to one because to me I mean this Hoffman winning would have caught me more off guard than Nick Dunlop well yeah you mentioned Nick Dunlop on the show so of course that’s true but that wasn’t even in the context of betting it was just like I would have been like I

Am more surprised that Charlie Hoffman won than like a superstar amateur in 2024 the way the trajectory these kids seem to walk through the tunnel with is that it for Charlie Hoffman was that it and you won’t you would you won’t even sniff him a bet for the rest of the year

Or we maybe he’s maybe he’s shown himself a little bit and he’s worth 100 to one somewhere you got a lot of FedEx Cup points it should probably do him a lot of good as the season progresses it got him into this tournament this week

At the Genesis so cuz he was now fifth in the Aon five yeah so like between this and the Valero he have had a whole season yeah Valero like some like he’ll end up playing I guess he probably maybe he’ll get himself into the players because of the amount of FedEx Cup

Points that he has now but you know Puerto Rico the Texas tournaments all like the lower status events I listen ball striking wise he was still fine I I did like one of the things that I liked about kizner I think it was him who

Ended up doing it so I don’t want to give credit to kizner if it wasn’t him but when they talked about the the weak grip that Hoffman had and he went back and looked at it’s like why can’t I hit the ball like I used to he’s like

Granted I’m older my swing looks different and they said like everything looked the same except for the grip that he had on the club and he had to move it over 20% it’s exactly the same problem that I had last year when I started like

Yeah I I couldn’t keep the ball on The Fairway anymore like I couldn’t make decent contact and I went to the guy that gives me lessons and he just looked at me he like oh yeah your grip is absolutely [ __ ] like you need to turn your hand back over so you can actually

Control the face coming I was like huh Pros have that problem too apparently they do but yeah seven strokes gained on approach and he made everything he did everything he’s not make hitting Fairways man he was sticking it it was unbelievable and then he hits the eagle

Putt and I had to take a walk outside I literally had to go for a walk I don’t know why people are shocked this is a year where people you’ve never youve either forgotten about or never heard of her I’m still shocked it’s stop still shocked I well I don’t know what the

Word is but like um yeah I don’t know I’m I’m a sucker I’m a sucker for what my expectations are and it’s hard to get me off it I’m shocked I I like those sorts of stories I’m I’m glad Nick Taylor wanted not Charlie Hoffman but it’s those sorts of

Stories that like you know because we’ve spoken about it many times like we give the PGA a hard time for playing every week we think it’s you know redundant and boring to a certain boring is probably the wrong word redundant but yeah it’s every time you

Can make you there’s a lot of PGA tournaments even if the big boys aren’t involved where there’s something real Charming like that be it an amateur be it a Charlie Hoffman you know good for them Grayson Murray Grayson Murray Grayson muray who won is going to Augusta he actually has a pretty decent

Game for Augusta all I’m not going to bet him although you you have to reveal you gave me your Master’s winner last night out of nowhere yeah Jim just brought it up no no no keep it quiet no you got you got to say no people need to bet it now

You’re the Big Game Hunter tell the people you tell the people you told me you tell the people tell the people do you forget who you picked tell the people who do you think he picked gold pick this is his gold pick who do you think that he picked to win The

Masters like which range are we talking about here like longer shot you know when you hit Windam Clark at 100 to one then you know you you pick guys that are 100 to1 or 80 to one or something okay I’m gonna take two guesses okay not going to waste too much time

Here it’s a guy who currently sits 13th in the President’s Cup standings for the United States so that can narrow it down for you Will’s Alor Horus no there’s your one guess what’s your other one well it’s not Taylor G Keegan Bradley Brian Harmon oh okay [ __ ] off what do you mean

He actually I mean like I just I don’t want to live in a world so you like you like him this week too I think if this like caloa is a good comp course for Augusta then the guys who play well at Augusta play well here Bubba played well here Phil played well

Here Rory plays well here ROM plays well here it’s all the guys that were like ranked number one or guys who do really well at but the guys that were ranked number one or two in the world just saying there’s a comp there’s a comparison between austa National and uh

And this track yeah I I agree with you we we’ve seen a lot of crossover but mainly from the very best because both of those courses are are draw hitter courses yeah or left-handers and lefties Mike we has won both those courses there you go Herman’s Herman who

Just won won the last major is very live to win at Augusta and this week he is a consideration this week is he the guy that you said that he’s he’s your one andone pick this week are you saving him for Augusta no I’m gonna use RAM and

Augusta yeah you should probably use the live guys or Brooks yeah or or DJ or DJ DJ’s looking great is is Bryson in the Masters still yes he won the 2020 US Open okay that’s good news so there’s your Masters pick your master future one

One of them I like Brian Harmon a lot he he he to me reminds me of left-handed Zack Johnson so much and of course Zack Johnson won the Masters do you think Brian Herman was out yelling at the fans in Phoenix too that was an awful sight

Like I don’t know why Zach Johnson needs to do this he’s basically he was basically shooter mcavin I damn you people go back to your Shan maybe should sir don’t sir me maybe he should have focused a little more on being a better Rider Cup captain it’s a bad look like I

Listen I could imagine being like endlessly frustrated with what was going on but just like don’t go he doesn’t have to play in that tournament yeah don’t go so Nick Taylor is on the President’s Cup team now 100% yes after yeah the the second win and like he’s

Third in points too like he’s probably in Canada yeah but like Tim had told me yesterday that if tlor was it if Taylor would come in fourth that he would be a lock on the team I think I don’t think that would have been the I think we

Would have taken him irrespective if he’d earned the point I I think everything Canada golf wise if you if you of earmark that a Canadian has to be on this team in Montreal that Connors is always the pick I think he and Connors are going to be teamed up together I’d

Play them together I wouldn’t play them together I would the first i’ put in the first group out no I I I just don’t think their skills match up they they might end up doing that but I don’t find those like those country teams really work out all that often even you know

Who never does that Jeff the Ryder Cup team it’s not like oh you’re from Spain you play with the other Spain guy did they not put wrong and Sergio they got crushed and Molinari played with another Italian golfer too did he not I mean the only other time an Italian golfer’s been

On the team is when his brother played on the I mean it’s so hyper rare for us to have two Canadians together but we’ve seen the South a I mean like make the team to even have the option to pair together we’ve seen the South Africans roll like charl Louie have crushed

Together so you’re a massive Underdog the president’s yeah see I you’re exactly right we’ve seen it happen time over time you know what the common threat is there they lose every [ __ ] year Well I maybe try to get the crowd on list that Domin I I still love

The dominant deette day pairing one year but I don’t know I mean I’ll tell you who’s licking their lips when they’re hearing about a Connor’s Taylor pairing it’s any American golf fan hey right hey right now Chris Kirk and Eric Cole are on the team so like door open here if

The teams were selected today the yeah Nick Taylor’s yeah we’ve got now our second Canadian and and it’ probably be pretty hard for a third one to crack it to be honest wait till we wins the Masters and then he has to be a player Captain players pick well I mean

There are four can five Canadians inside the top 20 in the standings I mean everyone besides pendrith has won on the PGA tour in the last calendar year like senson has a win M Hughes has a win took all thewi doesn’t but he’s up there there’s actually six Canadians inside the top Li

Took all the international players didn’t want any Canadians no uh but the top right now is it’s Tom Kim Jason day Nick Taylor sunjay and Grio with Ryan Fox Ben an and Min mu Le Ryan Fox yeah we really need cam Smith and a couple uh those guys yeah a couple

Couple of the South Africans couple of the Aussies yeah well hideki’s outside Hideki will most obviously be on the team hashino won on the DP World Tour so he’s up to like 17 shout out Tom Jacobs yeah Jacobs hit it that was nice Tommy Boy you know Adam Scott is probably

Going to end up being on the team just because y I mean although he’s playing some pretty decent golf at the moment anyway anyway I just want to check in on the President’s Cup because you know we I think we still all plan on going right that’d be

Fun yeah I mean now that I’m not like going to Canton this summer I got a couple open days though I don’t think that those mix no I think it’s in the Autumn right no but I just listen when you’re a father of three you’ve only got

So much Equity to disappear that’s all I mean are you saying that I have a tougher time going CU or easier time going cuz I’m only a father of two J the the impc about numbers mean I did not mean to make it about numbers I just

Mean anyone gets it like I don’t I don’t have a I could do what I want because I care about doing so little so when I want to do something what he’ll do what he wants yeah well no like I I I don’t have many how does that work either either you

Only have so much equity and so you can’t do what you want or you’ll do what you want how do those two concepts it’s like I do so l there’s so little things that I care about doing that when there’s something I want to do my wife

Wouldn’t say no because it’s not like I’m coming back next weekend and being like go go here I gotta go here I got to do that I’ll do what I want except I can’t do what I want what I want to doly it all fits perfectly into what I

Need okay all right I don’t want to be greedy about it either yeah you want to be a good dad you want to be present like I want to go right up to the lawn and then not cross the line where it’s like that’s how you would explain it

Yeah don’t cut that clip okay I won’t cut that clip uh anything else on Phoenix or live before we move on when does Liv play again Tim March 1st to 3D they go to jeda they’re going on International swing they’ll be in jeda and Hong Kong in

March before they go to Dural and then back internal to Australia so three of their next four D then the Masters right d Masters well I’m talking about Live Events sure but I’m just thinking about the guys yeah yeah yeah you’re right so Dural is sort of their warm-up for

Augusta I’ll tell you I wish Liv came to Toronto it does they almost did the pulpit is where they were thinking well the crowds and I got some on on the ground reports that the crowds were quite sparce um kind of embar like people there’s not

Much going on but I would absolutely go watch these guys and from what I’ve seen like you can get as up close and personal as you want so I would have a blast going to a live EV I think they will have one in Canada soon enough I

Mean the the most logical place for Liv to play in Canada is Michelson National in Calgary yeah like I said there was one in Toronto called the pulpit or the pulpit bench or something that’s the one they were thinking about going to I don’t know anything about it it’s

Actually a shame they haven’t because then they could just put like another flag on there like look at where we go it’s just an easy and it’s such an easy thing for the bigname guys who pretty much live in North America like it’s not an

Issue I whatever I wish they would it it does seem like that one that they the the first one they had was that the C the Centurion Club in London yeah yeah it seems like that one’s just like a you might as well not go do it it doesn’t

Seem like anyone in London really cares no I don’t even think they’re going to that track this year they’re going to a different one I think are they I think so but yeah if they went to any place in Canada that the PGA has ignored I’m telling you the Canadian sports fan

Would would support it I mean that I mean we’re members of a course that held the can women’s LPGA Canadian open that’s true they could come and play the I don’t think they’re going to come to our course why not they could they would shoot I mean we thought the 57 on the

Corn fery tour was bad we had the Tes Skins game we had the women’s Canadian open we could have live Canada sure we could we have all the accommodations required we can totally do it our course would not be the course you don’t think you can’t make it long enough you can

Make it long enough for the lpj you can’t make it long you just put the pin in goofy spots on 10 everybody will take twelves that’s true except for DJ who will just drive it with a six iron wa you could you can drive we I’ve watched someone drive that green you’d

Have to put in a couple of really back te boxes like on number three make it like a really long well like like I had mentioned to you like cuz you always talk about the cabin courses Liv would actually work at C if you don’t expect anyone to go anyway then you could

Actually pull that one off Liv would look that would look amazing on television oh my goodness I also came up with a live idea and Jeff let me know how you feel about this that as much as I hate like the AMX with a three course

Rotation that I think live it would be cool if they went to a place that had three courses and they played each of the courses each of the days that would be really cool that would be cool that I think that is cool I I mean the reason

Those are are needed though is because of the logistics of the people and that’s not an issue for live but that would be a Charming thing even if they went to like where the same thing I’d say like at The Greenbrier I feel like there’s like five courses there but I’m

Sure like they’re playing at the greeny there’s only one Champion Course that they could actually play and someone shot a 59 on it last time that’s okay 59s are the new Norm yeah people are having fun on live people are playing Jeff claimed that someone’s going to

Shoot a 54 this season on live did you not if they played like some of that corn faery course this week someone would have do you think DJ would put up a 54 at our course oh yeah I think they would basically so during the T Skins

Game when it was played there on number nine which is Nine’s probably one of the more difficult H especially when you know you’re not great and you don’t hit a very good draw uh Vegas played from the back teas and just dropped it on the Green from

The tea yeah just cut the way he’s like I’ll cut this water and just aim at the green yeah that’s that’s the tough part like anyone that I’ve ever played with at our course that is like a legit driver like even our buddy dub who hadn’t played in like three months but

Absolutely crushes the ball off the tea he shot what like 75 in his first time playing three months yeah it’s true just if you have distance off the tea there every hole like even for me like when I get hot like I like when I break 80

There yeah 70% of the holes I can get to within 120 yards from the t’s that I holes that hold you back with distance there yeah so if that’s the case and even like if you play it from the tips like there’s only so far you can go back

It would be a struggle for us oh yeah wouldn’t be a struggle for them yeah so that’s uh that’s Liv that’s Phoenix that’s a President’s Cup update I think it’s time that we talk about some Tiger Woods in the Genesis Invitational 66 man field I believe that

It is I don’t have the final numbers on that6 I probably should have all of that but uh it’s going to be cut down master style so there’s another Masters correlation Jeff top 50 in ties will’ll make the weekend so I hate this I I like the

Cut okay but this is like this is them sitting on the fence because last year with the elevated events people like me got all like but there’s no cut it’s such [ __ ] it’s so stupid and then Tiger Woods even joined in he’s like you can’t have events without a cut that’s

That’s not golf so then they created this like insanely false embarrassing cut that’s like totally feels unnecessary I I do I do like that guys are gonna miss the weekend and I think that we I forget I think it was I totally forgot I’m spacing on it who put

This out on Twitter this weekend but just there was real drama in the cutline this week in Phoenix like guys actually R like sung had to Rally Tom Kim came from nowhere to make the cut this week like that was like you set a goal you’re

Like hey I’m plus two I mean we saw I I think Verner was kind of a perfect example of this on Liv like two weeks ago he got it going bad in the first round he’s like yeah [ __ ] it like what am I playing like I have to go out and

Play out the networks don’t seem to care about the cut line though they don’t but I don’t understand it like they have to know that people are watching on Friday evening to see who makes the cut I would tend to agree with you but they just

That’s not how they do golf there should be like a split screen of like cut watch yeah I I I I said the very easy thing like it’d be one thing and I see people are because more people have been talking about this Jeff I see that

You’re very tired there sorry for boring you I know it’s no you’re not the Super Bowl just sorry it’s okay it was a long day it’s a long day of shooting that we’re doing we’re only halfway through this say I think the first show will end up

Being the longest show that we do however where was I cut line yeah people are trying to like come up like talk about the cut sweat as if that’s like their brand new idea now I don’t like that I mean I do want to see the cut I

Would be very disappointed that if I was not somehow involved if there is a at any time in like the next 20 years if there finally is a cut sweat I would like to be involved in in some sort of way I’ve been the biggest champion of

This for the past [ __ ] 10 years and all the Johnny come lately oh here’s my idea about the cut sweat but here’s how you actually do it because it’s tough to do bouncing around we don’t have ceras at every course yet maybe that can come and I’ve mentioned this a few times this

Poor guy man fading here on the line no I’m good just put cameras yeah you look good just on on Friday or whenever the second round is because of the weather just put cameras on 17 on 18 on eight and on nine you like ESPN plus has the

Featured holes and they’re just like random four holes just put all the [ __ ] ones right there I don’t get why there is isn’t a ground swell for it because as it turns out this space is actually very small it’s an echo chamber and if you’re someone who isn’t terminally online talking about golf

Coverage and you’re just one of the 98% of people who just tune in to CBS or NBC or even Golf Channel for that matter they never talk about it so why do people know like what what investment do casual fans have in this if they’re never informed that this is I don’t

Think casual fans are watching on Friday evening I mean it does like the ratings would suggest that there are half a million people basically watching on Friday and those are the obsessives sure but but golf Niche but it doesn’t even feel like it’s that many people who care

About this stuff that if you can convert those people that’ be a huge success yeah that’s true okay I’ll tell you how it happens and I mean this I I I truly mean it the only way this happens is if whoever the son of the guy who runs Golf Channel presents his dad

The idea I honestly mean this I saw thing Bob Iger and Disney he didn’t realize betting was legitimate until he saw his two adult sons doing it like oh I guess this is a real thing like they are so we’re a niche we are an echo chamber on

The other end they’re also in an echo chamber like we’re at two different spectrums of echo Chambers and the only way you can break through I mean it is if it’s like hey Dad you know what you guys should do in the course of the next two weeks

Jeff and I are talking to Richard deuts about sports media properties and I have a I’m going to release my I talked to Joe adodon on the preferred liines podcast about how to make this viable with some of the new investment in the PGA tour of what they should do with

This stuff but I do think that they should be running this stuff out at these limited events because it’s there just fewer players you can actually kind of do it right now like do the test case right now get on top of it cuz it seems

Like a thing that’s just going to be in The Ether and people will talk about and they’ll say oh we did it at the Players like that’s [ __ ] great that’s once a year the worst thing is that they start talking about the cut line when it’s nowhere close to what the cut Line’s

Going to be like the commentators don’t know anything about they like oh it’ll be two over because it was two over after Thursday and they looked at the looked at the standings or like what the current standings are they’re like oh yeah I don’t see how it couldn’t be

There it’s like really it’s going to be like two shots away from that but let’s talk about tiger a little bit more you think that he’s going to do great I think he play I think he’s going to play well I don’t think he’s coming out to

Play if he doesn’t think he can play well and so I think he’s going to play well but what what are we talking about playing well I told you top 20 that’s that’s a big ask I know it’s a limited field it’s a limited field event

And I think he’s got I think he’s been working hard and he wouldn’t be out here if he didn’t think he could you know represent himself well I think he’s G to play well and like would that be surprising people who are 6,000 to one

Are winning this year on the PGA tour so like what I’m saying is perfectly in line with that does that just make him an auto bet cuz he’s 200 to one yeah I mean why not he wouldn’t be close to the longest odds this year I think he’s W3

To one at draftking Sportsbook he’s 130 to1 you can find him at 200 to1 if if you look around a bit no he’s not going to win but do I think he’s going to play he’ll have one really good round and that’ll be enough to make him top 20 do

You want to bet I’ll bet back 35 you bet front 35 what uh what are we going to bet the loser has to put a bumper sticker on their car no I wouldn’t do that I I wouldn’t agree to that that those are Stakes that would be way too

High cuz I just think tiger admits himself like man he replicating he can play for cash he could hit the putts pretending he so many times admits like he cannot replicate the game like the game the six-footers for the game he cannot replicate that with cash cuz he’s too

Rich he cannot replicate that out there with the boy he can’t and game WS he acknowledges it all the time uh and I think he’s more realistic about what he’s doing here he’s being a host he’s unveiling a new brand maybe that’s happening as we’re doing this uh I’m not

Sure I think there’s a lot here he’s never even played well here I the B I mean I don’t think it’s bold but if you say top 20 I’ll I’ll take you on back 35 well I’m looking at the odds right now so Tiger Woods to finish inside

Of the top 30 is plus 130 right now that’s not too far from yeah so 30 35 would probably be like over under 35th seems to be coin flip yeah yeah yeah it would be the coin flip oh if it’s a coin flip I can’t possibly pick my model just

Won’t allow me to pick Jeff I’m sorry like it’s coin flip like it could go this way it could go that way your model could have an A your model T20 but M I look at my model I thought T20 but you know it’s go coin

Flip at 35 maybe he will maybe won’t I just just can’t make a pick can’t do it you know I think my favorite prop is that he won’t make two holes in one that that that’s my favorite prop actually the week I think you should bet that what’s that good

To what do you mean yeah minus uh 30,000 it’s good to minus 30,000 yeah uh to to play in the final pairing on Sunday Tiger Woods is 100 to one I don’t think so it would be I I went over this on the research show so I don’t want to it was

Kind of like my cold open I might start doing that I thought the research show that I did this week was the best research show I’ve ever done in terms of being an actual show the research who knows um it might be completely wrong but just to talk about it I thought it

Was a better show than normally the research show is but this is a make or break week for them because we talked with the weather delays the last two week and they’ve kicked the can down the road but as it turns out at least in my mind I think the ratings will reflect

This like Pebble Beach is always going to count in a draw cuz it’s Pebble Beach even when the tournament sucked it was one of the highest rated tournaments every year cuz people like to tuning into Pebble Beach what’s the one thing that supersedes anything on the PGA tour

Super Bowl Tiger Woods tiger tiger tiger is playing in this that you could have the [ __ ] weather and people can talk about oh people tuned in to live or gave live a day at Pebble Beach or everything in Phoenix was pushed back and it went to the Super Bowl none of that matters

As long as this week goes off without a and tiger plays all and Tiger’s there I agree with 80 guys they could probably work it to make sure tiger plays in both TV like the Thursday and Friday TV window yes they really want to get him

To the weekend of course where in the past like because of waves you really can’t get in both TV windows but with the 80 man field they could probably set them up to play on TV both days I would or maybe they want to drive the signups to like the plus stuff so

Now I don’t know what I’m talking about because right that gets people to sign up to that stuff yeah I don’t know exactly this is that actually would be the one thing in golf that would get you if you weren’t just a Die Hard who won

To watch ESP PN plus anyway this would be like hey here’s every shot from Tiger feed which should be a thing on ESPN plus should exist cuz people would actually pay for that course they would you can bet what his Thursday shirt color will be pink is the

Favorite okay I mean if it depends on the weather whenever the weather is bad like British Open style I mean maybe this I have this in grein he’ll wear that like gray turtleneck type shirt he’s worn that mask they said the jacket doesn’t like the jacket or vest doesn’t

Count and like the the long sleeve undershirt doesn’t count either no but it’s usually like a long sleeve like golf yeah yeah it’s it’s gray in some sort yeah he usually wears it at the open but on those like early Masters like when it’s a bit chilly he tends to

Wear them there as well let’s get into the oddo because I think this is going to be a fun tournament to bet on hopefully you know the favorites or some 4,000 to One winner doesn’t end up coming in but a draftking sports book right now Scotty is the favorite plus

650 Rory’s 9 to1 Victor is 12 to1 Xander is 14 Klay is 16 hom is 16 morawa is 16 oel is 18 to1 as is Justin Thomas now is down to 18 to1 opened at 28 went to 18 it makes sense he’s played really well here over the course of his career and

He’s the he just he’s coming off his worst finish of the Year T12 like last week so he’s playing some pretty good golf coming in I have bet one of these guys so far Jeff I’ve bet none of them I stared at that just in 27 I actually went for a

Guy higher whose number dropped harder this morning who we’ll get to in a second there are only two players I’d consider here it should be no secret uh one would be hland but I don’t know my card could be I don’t know I could

Afford it and I am I’m I would like to consider strongly betting ludvig I’ve seen it as high as 23 I bet ludvig at 22 this morning first thing I did okay I was I was surprised because I figured his odds would drop down to 18

Or 16 just because that’s the range that he’s been in but I thought Tory Pines was kind of the perfect course for him he played really well at Tory Pines in his first visit there that this course is going to play really well for his

Strong suits as well too it just can he figure out the green complexes I mean it’s hit or miss people talked about how poorly he puted at Tory Pine despite the fact that he gained Strokes putting on the week like he needs to have a better putting performance if you’re going to

Win but you know distance plays at Riv as a ludvig slobber I uh it’s a big week because if we get a good result this week we can correlate that to maybe those 100 to one Masters not you know maybe having a life tough to win your

First ever appearance I know but if you are him if you are him maybe he is but yeah no I’m not expecting him to win The Masters I’m just saying let’s roll over some good good Riv uh I believe he’s everything and it was even pointed out

To me Pat that like his eyes look like Tom Brady’s oh sexy eyes the the like this part of his face you’ll look for it next time looks like Tom Brady if you had to guess Tim where ludvig ranks in the world rankings right now what would you guess 16th

11th yeah his R do you remember the first time you saw him yeah I wanted I wanted off your TV wanted him off my TV cuz I didn’t know who he was and I still feel the same way I don’t want to see people I don’t know that’s me though I

Don’t want to see people but that was building a guy that they knew was going to be awesome great and then after he has a good year this year he’ll be live next year that’s what Liv’s gonna do he’s going to buy all these guys year after

Year as the old guys retire and they get rid of the really old guys new spots open up they just buy o i don’t I don’t doubt Liv’s about toble and triple down again Liv going to take that private Equity deal and triple it down with more bodies somebody else’s

Areo seems like that he’s laying the ground to go to live and that his name is Rory mroy it seems like I don’t think so what that i’ argue maybe hin but not Rory I was going to say if you’re a big fan of Liv that is a very Liv Centric

Interpretation of Rory and Dov tales with my pick this week which is Rory oh you’re picking Rory I think Rory who’s a natural drawer of the golf ball essential thing at Hogan’s alley and he’s played well at this course in the past and uh yeah I think he’s a perfect

Setup for this course um he ought to be the favorite not Sheffer he’s going to win it’s hard to not make Sheffer the favorite sheer doesn’t win neither does Rory Rory has won events I mean so is sheffler okay well I’m going to take Rory here no I listen I I don’t think

There’s been a tournament Jeff in the history of US betting where I’ve lost more money on Rory maoy than at Riviera I bet him basically every year cuz I I the same thing that everyone sees and he doesn’t win it’s like come on man even the stupid year JB

Holmes won that was Rory’s year to win yeah and there was a lot of time where he did more Middle East Golf so he kind of apologists to some of his Riviera play but now that he doesn’t really do that a ton anymore get sharp for the

Match in a couple weeks too he just won and came second in the Middle East as of like three weeks ago yeah he’s great he’s going to win this week too yeah I guess this year he did do the Middle East again so yeah and then he’s

Got the match um what’s a match I would just say the match you know how I don’t know what scenario it would take for me to bet the best player in the world to win a golf tournament at the numbers they post them it’s crazy right like it

It’s so hard because I mean we talked about cheer has these it’s not that he has a lack of wins he has a lack of wins for the performances that he is putting up that it’s it’s hard to trust him to like if you need him to make a

Three-foot putt I just feel like he’s going to miss it every time now you put him on you put him over a 17 foot putt I think he he’s basically what he’s basically doing what spe did that year mhm the weird thing is if it came down

To like Sheffer versus a guy you’ve bet in the 40s in a head-to-head situation I don’t feel dead like I do if it’s a wrong like the other top guys I don’t think I’m the favorite but I don’t feel like I’m [ __ ] like I think I can

Get this guy and I think the players aren’t intimidated by him for how good he is he’s not intim he doesn’t intimidate his opponents like the number one player in the world should but he should like I couldn’t imag I think CU who did he who did he play with he who

Was playing in his group with in Phoenix I can’t remember now it wasn’t Hoffman Hoffman was with spe cam no JT was with Camy young um sheffler was with Kama and MAV mcney no spe was with uh spe was with M mcney and Ryan Fox all right so

Two so two guys who tanked basically mcne ended up getting back there but Fox had a dis M and gim I’m sorry mcne and gim I’m sorry so two guys who basically went away from the spot that they were at and mcne got some back late so we

Ended up with the top 10 finish I think it’s super intimidating playing with Sheffer because he puts the ball to 12 feet on every [ __ ] hole every hole no matter where he drives it what happens it’s just like oh yeah here’s Scotty he’s going to but he doesn’t bring the

Roars through the crowd the way and he doesn’t convert enough but I think that when you’re playing with him like that much pressure that’s put on you in his playing group you’re like how is this guy doing this like I’m in the middle of

The Fairway I put it to 30 ft and I going to have to two he be a very frustrating match play golfer well he’s very good at match play but at the same time you dump a 20 you dump a 20f footer on top of his eight-footer and then

Watch What Happens Next sure but I’m saying that the guys that play with him experience a lot more pressure than the guys that are in other groups yeah I agree with that fair you see it you feel like you got to try to keep up or at

Some point you he’s you’re going to break and he’s gonna keep I can I could see that I’m just saying as a guy that loves to bet golf as a guy Pat who was never like we did shows for years we bet I could bet the top I’d have no problem

Betting DJ like eating chalk sandwiches I just I could never do it with this guy I think see I I I haven’t so I I can’t I’ve bet Sheffer at a few major championships and the really weird thing is although the fields are a little little bit better because the

Live guys are there whatever I don’t feel like his actual win Equity changes at all no matter who’s playing like either he’s going to win because he makes putts or he’s going to lose like all things being equal like there’s a reason that I mean I know that the live

Guys aren’t factored into the world rankings right now but there’s no case that you can make that really Scotty isn’t the best player in the world he’s amazing I know he’s won the most times he picked up the major and he comes basically top five in every tournament I

Trust Rory more with his long irons I I do not and this is the probably the course where you little silly and this is the course you need long irons at more than any other course so why do you trust him more I just do I just think of

I’d rather have him with a long iron in his hand than anybody in on in this I think that’s a very like P you have some perception that’s wrong there I well that could absolutely be I’m no expert but I would trust Rory with his five

Iron more than anybody else I would and I’m an expert at having perceptions that are wrong so I can sometimes see when if someone else might Happ like like bomber Sheamus power because his name is power yeah cool this is not a long course but the

Course is a weird setup but it is a long course there are four short holes well there’s one that’s like a par three and a half essentially yeah number 10 I I talked about it extensively on the research show it’s my favorite short Par Four like are Mora cow and Tom Kim in

Trouble here then or not trouble but no because they’re legitimately the best long iron players in the world and they have to hit way more than everyone else the reason that guys like Rory and the bombers do so well at Rivier is cuz they

Hit it so far off the te that they don’t have all of these super long approach shots there’s long par fours there true but they’re not man these guys hit it [ __ ] 350 yeah that’s true that’s true like they’re going to have long irons it’s the course that has the most shots

Above 175 yards on tour but a long iron for if Scotty Sheffer is 210 away from the hole and Brian Harmon is 210 away from the hole it’s a yeah it’s not a long iron for Scotty shefford he’s just going to hit iron it’s a m iron yeah but

That’s the S garious thing is that like it’s still a six iron what do you mean like they’re just so it’s crazy how insane these guys are I know just this place feels like it has some of those US Open like I don’t know like yeah for me the hard the hardest on

The are the longer part fours yeah well mies up to her cuz one and 10 are crazy easy holes well 10 isn’t an easy hole though that’s the whole thing 10 is hard it’s the hardest short par 4 on tour okay Pat so someone messaged huge numbers someone messaged me they’ve

Done some they’ve done a recent switch up on 10 that has limited the runoffs they’ve started doing a renovation because the usga’s asked them for it for uh the Olympics 31 it’s the Olympics too is it or is that La olymp they’re hosting the Olympics at Rivier um see

Pat what happens is you do a research show and then people message me things okay um but no this was very just to say uh no this um plays Riv they flattened out the front left part of that green because the USGA came in and that was a

Change they wanted before the 2031 US Open obviously it’s not really going to change who you want to bet but um the the runoff being crazy is not as bad as it used to be okay and that will significantly change how that hole plays that was one of the big things for that

It’s the toughest green to hit inside 70 yards in allive golf which is insane to think about thinking about the amount of guys that get the ball not quite to the green or right next to the green and you can just make some giant numbers there where you

Can’t add a lot of the short power fours even that short short power four remember we were watching oakill last year the one that had the huge bunker around it it almost felt like an island green and guys were taking a run at it and it didn’t matter unless you drew the

Worst lie in that bunker in front of it like why not take a shot at it like 17 yesterday at Phoenix yout where you kept advocating for people to hit three Woods all the time but there was no penalty to going for we watched it no one laid up course

Was very poorly set up yesterday 16 and 17 were holes that took all the juice out of those holes I don’t know everyone down the started birding 16 but no they were in bad spots there was no chance like a two incher or even a hole in one

No one had a real crack at it an inch the pin on 17 basically took out any chance at an eagle like one guy hit it close and that Chef like I don’t know it just those were really poorly for drama and excitement very bad pin positions I

Know they’re set up as birdie holes they’re not set up as eagle and hole well see I want them to if you’re going to have them in all that excitement I want them to be eagle and hole in one holes really Juice It Up cuz 18 is such

A dud of a hole make 16 and 17 super exciting but 17 the pin is always in that spot yeah but the because usually it is so lightning fast there that you really want people to be challenged by if I take driver on this I really risk ruining my hole yesterday with the

Conditions So Soft there was Zero risk of hitting stick thing is you take driver there and still you take driver there you go in the water you’re still like dropping On The Fringe yeah but if you put the pin up front you challenge people to take the water on because you

Get on never front on Sunday it’s never been there doesn’t mean it can’t be yeah that’s a terrible spot cuz then people can just use a three-wood hit it to the front of the green and chip in for Eagle great that’s what I want to see I want

To see as many you you you want the like the at the back it makes the hole actually tough it was too tough yesterday it wasn’t too tough yester it was too tough it was not what I wanted to see I wanted to see people with legitimate cracks at Eagles or even an

Albatross that’s what I I thought Hoffman was going to have TR I thought Hoffman was going to have a real part putt there and he hit like a 70 foot lag or to a a fantastic putt but people were making but like that was that’s the thing cuz everyone kept hitting into the

Brook Zone where Brooks chipped in for Eagle the year that he ended up it was just a free bailout yesterday everyone could bail out it was it was but guys kept making bogey from there cuz no one can get their chip to get down the hill

I and it kept getting stuck and then you three it took eagle out of plan I wanted to see some Eagles Bren Todd made an eagle I wanted to see Eagles how many Eagle holes do you need I need a few I want a few down the still

Chip in for Eagle 13 15 and and 17 should all be Eagle eligible holes coming down the stretch is what I want to see Juice It Up did you just mean have you seen the guys doing the rewatch of all the cuss Corners that gu yes about you railing on how you wouldn’t

Take a professional seriously if people wore shorts I guess I’ve changed my mind haven’t I yeah really really believe it or not I’m I’m allowed to change my opinions it’s funny how you change your opinions very conveniently with things that all of a sudden that you like which

Are really against because these aren’t courses that like I would be a dead set against anybody wearing them at St Andrews or August why what’s the difference I just feel like there’s a Mystique to some of those places but so what you deem things that have a Mystique yeah it’s opin my op

Professional that’s it’s insane okay but yes Jeff players wear shorts not real golf but apparently now it’s like the best golf it’s more entertaining golf by and large than what we’ve seen this year the two tournaments that live have been more entertaining than anything the pga’s produced I mean Sunday at Phoenix

Was much better that was excellent way better than that was that was entertaining all the big names on live coming down the stretch you almost had your peter Uline win hey gu nearly won again oh gu and Matthew wolf Jeff matth Wolf’s big name if those hold on if

Those guys on the PGA tour and they were the three names at the top of the leaderboard cus would call it an illegitimate event I about that who are these guys get them off my TV why would I watch this all these names suck that’s your opinion that’s what you say every single

Week but if they play on live all of a sudden Peter uline’s a real big name is he a guy who couldn’t even [ __ ] qualify for the PGA Tour way Tim talks about how do you put this I’m surprised like as a sports fan am I allowed to say like well

Hypothetically if they played around Fort Pebble Beach it would have been just incredible Tim it would have been so amazing like why can’t I use a hypothetical hypothetical round of the year round four at Pebble Beach go ahead ludvig wins let’s get to this middle section because that’s where most of my bets

Come in from so you didn’t bet anyone inside the top 20 Jeff not inside 20 but I I bet I bet ludvig at 23 okay and I bet ludvig at 22 okay so that’s where we’re at I’d probably still bet him at 18 if that was

The only odd that I could get this next range Burns is at 22 that’s down from 35 earlier feno is at 28 spe is at 28 Tommy is at 30 for reasons unknown watch him fin finally [ __ ] win because no one will bet him at 30 to1 will zorus is 35

The Galla is 35 Fitzpatrick’s 35 cam young is 35 Adam Scott is 35 Wendy C cus guy is at 40 to1 he’s the only one they got day at 4 and then two names hoard and sunj both at 50 to1 this is where I made the vast

Majority of my bets but I made them early Jeff so I got much better numbers here I have Cameron young at 45 to1 Adam Scott at 45 to1 Windam Clark at 55 to1 and Sam Burns at 35 to1 Sam Burns will be my oneand done so I’m with you I’ve

Made two and I you’ve made them I’ve bet Sam Burns at 35 I I bet him last week I bet him at the MX in between that he was top 10 at Pebble I got to stick with this guy on the west coast I saw that number I looked right

Through that jt27 that was hanging and just like I went Burns over JT last week did it again also on cam young I stared at Adam Scott I didn’t have the balls to do it I’ve scared I’ve stared at F now why just because like I don’t know

He’s winning next week I don’t want to he almost won this tournament what two years ago three years ago you know he’s almost won this tournament multiple times Bubba that double rever that was a double curse you cursed feno and then you cursed homo when he had that one

Foot Punt and he missed can’t believe you missed that Putt and then you cursed Tony in the playoff when H got stuck behind that tree that’s right oh goodness I forgot about that that was a horrible beat I did not so just like for peace of mind I’m really liking F now

Always thought he’s got to win here it’s not really why you’d want to bet someone at this sort of number is like at one point in your life you thought he would for sure win at this golf course there could be someone else I was looking at there but no the bets I’ve

Made is ludvic Sam and and Cam and I’ll probably Hammer two more in front of 60 then be done yeah I I just have the five I might throw someone long onto the list just to try to capitalize on the year of the triple digit winner

A lot of sense with his course yeah doesn’t he make a lot of sense with his course the way you described it I bet him yeah like he makes a lot of sense yeah AB he’s great he’s so he had he had a he I think he double bogeyed two or

Three in the final round yesterday and he just went like he was like minus 11 or something going into the final round he just went away silently he’s become one of the four or five best golfers no one talks about him that way I mean he’s won three tournaments in the past 12

Months two two Signature Events and a US Open yet here he is 40 to1 and a in a tournament where like that those odds are probably far too long for him he’s still 50 to1 he’s 40 to1 at draftking sports seems like people I hate to say they’re

Sleeping on them but they kind of are I I would tend to agree with his especially with his skill set at this course now he’s not a fader this we know yes he is not a fader he basically hits the ball like the gala hit the ball off

The tea every drive it’s true just way right theala this week I I mean he was the last cut like I almost went back to him because this really should be a course where he plays well you can hit the ball as long as you want

Spray it all around have a really good short game I mean I I still have room to get there list a good player at this course list could be very good he’s long but the problem is like Liss history of not being able to chip or putt at this

Place is like he’s bad at putting anyway he is especially bad here now maybe he can run four good rounds who knows but it wouldn’t count on that okay Genesis yeah the Gallo is sixth here two years ago no last year he was sixth terrible I was on him last week I

Was tempted to stay I’m just pivoting but if he keeps his early s season ride going I’ll be real mad at myself and you’ll probably know early no I don’t know about that we we thought it was I kind of thought like he was the guy like

A after he kind of ambushed the back or whatever nine that he ended up closing with in the second round it’s like okay here we go then he struggled in the third round but he fought back and he was the lead tied with Taylor going into the final round it’s like Taylor versus

The gala you know Sheffer still a bit back here like if someone someone has to hold off Sheffer in the spot I really thought it was going to be him and he just didn’t have it and uh big Vince who hit Nick Taylor so shout out big Vince

Wanted me to ask you Jeff is the gala just the new top four Tony he’s still so young right not like and he got a win recently and he’s contending in in nicer higher end events so I’m not there yet that’s exactly what feno does he wins shitty events and

Contends in big events but F was already like 30 so there’s much more of a and F know was a late bloomer and that’s a fun story but I don’t um you know just because some guys are able to win so much right away there’s still a standard of golfer

That I remember from like when we were younger that you kind of just you got to take some lumps and then it’ll all come I’ll have the full putting splits from Riv along with all the other information that you need in the Mayo media newsletter that’s where my column is

Residing and anyone who is sub to that thank you I really appreciate that and you get the show before everyone else does because it’s the secret Link in the show in the newsletter this week so that’s there’s another reason sometimes there’s just secret shows in the Mayo

Media newsletter sub to that for free or just sub on substack the 100 to one guys unless there’s like did anyone of that like 80ish range Jeff do it for you because it doesn’t for me why not an Ann’s top 10 in driving distance yeah Ann’s fine is that what you were looking

Up on your phone that entire time you don’t know what I was looking up you don’t know what I was looking up you no idea what I was looking up but uh if I did play in this like around the 80s it would be um you know bodies that I can

Just try to trust like a Hideki or a Cory Condor are you to the point now where you need to have an automatic one player who’s 150 or longer that’s that’s what I was thinking automatically you just have to now I worry that an maybe it was the

Conditions that an struggled with just the atmosphere really like he even took to Twitter to talk about it he’s not a great POA putter I mean he’s not a good putter anyway but he’s a even worse POA putter than anything else this on paper should be a like he’s an excellent long

Iron player but his irons have not does he like the kakuya this we don’t know and I don’t find I hear they’ve got kakuya grass I don’t find actually does anything here it’s weird but his irons have been really I wouldn’t say really bad so far this year because they like

They were okay he at Sony but it’s really been like driving chipping and putting for him it’s hard to trust a guy with like wonky irons the only guy that you can kind of go to that has wonky irons ever is spe because he’ll just find other ways to make birdies or Min

Woy I mean we haven’t seen minwoo beat a real field de I know I’m starting to get worried um I was a little bullish okay good to know well now that Phoenix Pat now that Phoenix is done and now that football is done listen like it yes I threw a little

Late Wednesday night Grenade on Nick Taylor it’s lovely I had a horrible Super Bowl um and don’t like let’s not pretend like yes yes like let’s talk about reality for a minute yes Joe Flaco Wong comeback player of the year but you’re also looking at a guy that

Probably you know had to pay the piper on a grand when Justin Herbert obviously didn’t win MVP last week so you know it’s it’s not all roses but what I want to say is now that football is like over and my Waste Management Futures are

Gone I can like start to see the Futures clearly like it’s not all cluttered in there although DraftKings really when they say Jim Harbaugh where will he be coaching week one they’re really counting on him dying before they pay me out they really like they’re really

Thinking maybe he dies this summer so we don’t have to pay out fineberg um um but I I’m not betting anyone over 100 to one I don’t even care not here not this week not this field let’s let’s let’s try to find some okay over 100 to

One list I think I think list is the obvious choice uh what you will find in a very limited sample of best Putters on these greens Montgomery and senson are both pretty good but I I might actually go to a guy I bet to win this tournament last

Year and he’s 180 to one on draftking Sportsbook because I think he actually has the right profile for this course and I just went back and looked I was like why was he so [ __ ] last year Nick Hardy what’s that Nick Hardy no not Nick

Hardy was a guy who was doing great for me on DraftKings last he’s a bomber he you could play with him I mean I wouldn’t put him in like the pure bomber category top 25 in driving distance yeah but they’re calculating that based on fields that they’re like you can’t are

You looking on PGA tour.com yes so you realize that if a guy plays like kaaloa right yeah that his driving distance is going to be like 4 % higher than any other you know where Nick Hardy played which is a your guess Taylor Moore Taylor Moore would be the answer

Okay I’m smart there you go you’re genius Jeff blind squirrel found a not no I don’t know I just yeah I could see you just looked at one of the three guys that are 180 to one well no there aren’t many guys I’m looking at at more of a

Cross-section of books but Pro yeah there few guys up there and profile and sure I’m not that smart like if you wanted so so last year um we take a look at Taylor Moore where are we at here with Taylor Moore uh the Genesis so I mean even just

Looking back at last week now he did a lot of good work chipping last week but he was top 15 in the field and approach that’s always nice to see after he had lost in six consecutive events he lost almost five Strokes putting and still

Came in 39th and we take a look back at what he’s done at the Genesis so far in his career like he missed the cut a year ago but did gain on the greens he was t21 the year before that gained a ton off the te gained a ton on the green so

If his irons can actually click a little bit this week we’re talking about 180 like how can you talk yourself into 180 to one guy well everything needs to go right for him that’s step one step two does he have the required skill set to

Do it he can bomb the ball he can putt a little bit especially on these greens as we’ve seen and at least he’s had a good iron week coming into the week and had a good chipping week but you know who knows on that he’s 180 to1 is the way

That I would look at it like I like that more than Hoffman I don’t think like baz H’s playing good golf but this isn’t a great course for him Sheamus power not long enough Ryder not long enough spawn not long enough Chase Johnson’s like not like a Crea a player Grayson Murray

Probably not he’s been terrible since he won he kind of caught the lightning in the bottle like everyone buried at the bottom here outside of Nick Hardy I suppose and Kevin Yu would maybe be the other one Jeff just because he had been playing really good golf and he crushes

It off the t2 which I just always kind of stuns me because you know I guess Rory hits the ball a ton JT hits the ball a ton why not Kevin Yu as well but those I would be looking bombers if I was looking deep people were really excited about

Their Kevin you like t20s their placings then he a little trouble he missed the cut last week well yeah he had a great first round and then he kind of just double bogied his way through the second round um yeah I’m not I’m not there but Kevin

Yule cash people not here though never played in this tournament had been you know driving and hitting his irons really well terrible putting at Pebble Beach and terrible terrible terrible chipping everywhere like has around what sort of head-to-head do you think they’ll put up for Tiger like

Who Ricky F because they never do it with a guy who’s his direct odds counterpart I feel like Luke L know his odds are Lucas Lucas Glover or Tiger Woods Luke list or Tiger Woods Ricky fer or Tiger Woods Lucas Glover the two guys who won US opens at Beth Page black he

And tiger Lucas has never made a cut here and he also missed his tea time last week he did miss his tea time you think his wife uh enjoyed that I think he’s got some Equity with the wife off last year’s uh cash payments it would have been a perfect tournament for him

Too because it’s was so cold this weekend he had no after last year his wifey is not missing a handbag after the way last year went like she’s good she’s good I suppose that’s true yeah the the back-to-back wins and getting one during the FedEx Cup playoffs yeah that’ll get you paid

And now he’s gone back to like not being good again which is kind of funny after he should be on the rer Cup team well he had a case word but couldn’t have done worse so maybe they should have had them they probably would team you you say

That they couldn’t have done worse they could have done much they probably could have done worse by having Lucas Glover on their [ __ ] team I know they picked a bad team I mean they picked who they could pick no they left feno off who I was told was a sure fire can’t missp

Pick that was from him listen we’re all raw you could admit to being wrong about shorts I can think I was not forecasting feno’s death of a second half like whatever man all right how long like like for in five years from now you be like I

Thought Tony feno was a guarante no I’ll just bring up how you told me the Raiders couldn’t possibly have fewer wins than the Patriots last year I was wrong Jeff isn’t one of these people that isn’t going to come on here and not give picks that’s true Jeff doesn’t care

What his model says pi and guess what Tim guess what I was wrong about the Patriots I thought they’d win six or seven games I was wrong I was wrong and you know what here’s a tease they did not rank nearly as well in my rankings based on where

They’re drafting as I thought they might as we discoursed thison so the we’ll do that next Monday yes yeah tune in next Monday for me Tim and Jeff going over the actual Jeff’s power rankings of how teams did in the NFL this year I’m very excited for it’s not scientific no go

On go on don’t believe you on that you didn’t you didn’t run the algo no it’s just not scientific it’s a it’s a PO it’s a pop perie of factors um but mainly it’s about your ability to Quest for a World’s Championship trying to find here if we

Just sort by driving distance so Rory JT benan Woodland Kevin Yu hoard Xander SMY SMY was one of the names from down that list smly so is Woodland um yes Small’s the one that hits it tight but can’t hit putts right yeah basically well that’s not good on POA don’t people get freaked

Out at on POA or if you’re just constantly used to missing every putt maybe it’s just the norm yeah yeah we’ve seen bad Putters like list and and even Fe we’ve seen a lot of bad Putters sort of brings them more to the median yeah right I I would tend to agree Taylor

Moore Windam Clark Oar Jagger got bump Chase Johnson Dunlap maybe it’s another Dunlap win or it’s a Chase Johnson win 20 so good in consistent you could be right the 50s just it seems very fair well it’s funny because I bet him at the

AMX under the CU I think he was 80 to one at the AMX I was like that’s that doesn’t make any sense considering this guy just won two tournaments and is like a top 15 player in the world when we’re playing at the American Express he had a

Really bad round then he had a really good round he just didn’t factor in that I just like kind of forgot about that at Pebble Beach and didn’t do it almost you talked about him lovely on the Pebble Beach show you said this line like it’s insulting you mentioned the bow Hustler

And all that yeah it didn’t mean that I bet him I mean he helped me win a DraftKings tournament that was great so I won money off of him but I didn’t make the bet I’m just I’m a week early or a week late on the guys who win it’s it’s

It’s been strange this year anyway let’s get to our Quick Picks and try to guide the people like I I hammered down uh right off the Hop this week so the five that I went with ludvig oel sorry you’re checking your time getting no getting is

Going too long here no it’s all good did did your watch tell you to stand up yes well we’re doing a show I know I’m just telling my watch told me to stand up we’ll be out of here in a minute ludvig 22 to1 for me Sam Burns 35 to1 Cameron

Young 45 to1 Adam Scott 45 to1 and Windam Clark 55 to to one or the five that I’m going with this week I may add Taylor more I’m going to add one of these bombs and Jeff there’s still a chance that I add the gala as well

Because I don’t want to miss out on that I love the work you’ve done than you I pirated a bit of it and we didn’t even talk but if you were up early and on that site there were just those numbers um so I’m on lvic I’m on cam young I’m

On that juicy Sam Burns phenow yes Adam Scott if I have the guts to do it I love him so much uh I wish we disagreed more when you come back from vacation we’re going to disagree I’m going to argue with you about your picks okay okay that’s that’s going to happen

But um no I like the sympatico we clear sympatico it does feel like it’s going to be the very top but I have no interest I can’t get there oneand done picks for the Genesis Invitational I mean this is this is one to go get a win

If you’re going to use a guy it’s a big purse you can go do it uh we all did pretty well well last week Tim won the week with spe he tied for six I had JT came 12th and you had Hideki who came t22 so Jeff still leads by 100K over me

Tim you’re now at 389,000 you are 500k behind you can make that all up pretty quickly who is your pick Rory Rory mroy for Tim Sam Burns for me Jeff because I won the week I pick first who are you taking I’m never capable of using the

Best players even though I should but I’m going to ride the California quality sah result you’re going with the gala here strange I know you know who the actual good oneandone pick is here Klay boring boring Klay No One’s Gonna bet him or chaet who plays well here cha

Yeah like one of those guys yeah see here again yes see this is the kentley I don’t hate you want to bet kentley to win The Masters is 20 to one you want to bet him to win this week it’s like 18 to one you could probably get it enhanced

To 20 you probably could get it enhanced to 20 I wonder if if that is the case maybe that would be it’s 19 enhanced to 19 that seems not it’s reasonable man yeah that’s not bad this is the kentley I like this is the kentley I like the

Most not when kentley’s like the guy to beat at 10 to one 12 to1 I like kentley when the big boys are here and he’s like 20 so maybe I can maybe I’ll Circle back maybe well tune into anything that Jeff is doing at g fineberg on Twitter later

On this week to find out if he did Circle back and get there on Patrick hlay at 19 to1 or maybe a bigger number if no one bets him thanks for being in the studio Tim thank you you’re you’re running on fumes here we need to take a

Break don’t we I’m doing fine are you I’m doing fine okay Jeff at G fineberg 17 like I mentioned let’s win some bets this week all right I could use some extra cash on my vacation this tiger this tiger this I made this myself I took this to like a

Store in the mall and this is a picture of tiger from his first ever Pro event at Riviera when did you get that made a few years ago they call that bespoke custom did they look at you kind of funny bro this you’re working at a mall

Custom t-shirt shop you don’t have the right to look at anyone funny jeez throw throwing Dart Serv huh if you work retail and you think you deserve respect fot jef the cussies still open you can vote for the cussies down in the description right now

This is not dude come on so like I’m in line and I’m sure the woman behind me is making her like it’s Sanderson family vacation t-shirts so like that’s the sort of [ __ ] I’m dealing with and I walk up and the guy’s like worried about it

Being illegal and I’m like what are you talking about just take this picture smack it on the crew neck let’s go when did I have this made actually I had it made I had I wore this at the DF s golf thing in Florida started Co so

That’s how old this is the week before Co yeah we started it I didn’t bet Burns last week because I feel like if I had bet Burns last week after having bet him at the MX that I just couldn’t possibly go through it again but where I didn’t

Bet him I had money I had money on him Jeff along with you when he because he the phoom year that was Burns’s Burns was up by four at the turn he immediately went out of I don’t remember I forgot that yeah and before we go the worst job CBS ever did

Covering a golf tournament was the Adam Scott win a couple years ago where there were like eight guys within a shot they didn’t know what to do they’d even show us Harold Varner top the ball on 10 it was the worst coverage ever um of golf tournament fun I I mentioned that exact

Same thing the Verner top on 10 on the research show yeah yeah I had Damon to win cuz I live bet him at 200 to1 and he was playing we didn’t see Damon on TV until he almost hit it into Adam Scott on like 16 or something he came

Second that was a [ __ ] show all right thank you all for watching playing the listeners League that’s down in the description make sure to check out the newsletter for the full Cal that’s where I’ll have the bets updated because I’m probably not going to release a second newsletter this week just being on

Vacation and all but I can probably update that as we go along we got a ton of shows coming for you Tim is already standing up as I’m doing my extro not distract whatsoever here just getting out of his seat he needs to go stretch I suppose

But we have media right stuff coming up as it pertains to golf me and Byron the model Maniac talking about the most profitable bets that you can make in golf uh and a bunch of more content every single day coming at you on the pat Mayo experience don’t go anywhere

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  2. Completely agree Geoff on Hoffman. I was so shocked to see him play like that. When I first started golf betting in 2016 I used to bet Hoffman every week for years when he was constantly FRL at the masters. Haven't even considered him in 3+ years. Stunned about what he did.

  3. The PGA Tour promotes the wackiness at the Wasted Management, supplies the booze, gets the crowd hyped up, they can't complain.

  4. Thanks for the Nick Taylor call. I would never have played him. Got me well. I was ready to stop betting on golf until the win. 🤩

  5. I use to caddy at Cascata 20 years ago . We had a tournament where every group got Adam Scott to hit a shot in a scramble. Decent guy got drunk with the boys at Green valley ranch that night.

  6. Geoff, the Golf Channel executives don't want you pitching your ideas to their kids any more than the Chargers execs

  7. Tim Boomercust, went full boomer with the "I don't want to see anyone I don't know" take. Thanks for all the content!

  8. 1)Collin Morikawa(NAP) €100 Win only @ 20-1(SS; Win Only Market)

    2)Sam Burns(nb) €75 Win Only @ 27-1(SS; Win Only Market)

    3)Sepp Straka(nbb) €37.50 EW @ 80-1(SpreadEx ; 1/5 6places)

    4)Adam Svensson €25 EW @ 150-1(SpreadEx ; 1/5 6places)

    5)Kevin Yu €25 EW @ 175-1(SpreadEx ; 1/5 6places)

    Total Staked : €350

  9. Hi Pat do you think that the bookmakers should pay half your winnings if you win the tournament ; that is 2 in a play off; 1/3 of your winnings if 3 are in a playoff etc; hold back your winnings till the comp ends and give us the full winnings if the selection wins ; but still get half your winnings for getting to a playoff

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