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Live for at least the next hour not a little bit more tons of talk about we got Luke gaty getting hired today that news broke today got some be stuff to discuss and of course all of your comments we’re answering any questions you have the chat is open everything’s

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Are expected to hire Luke gy as the next offensive coordinator wow the Raiders choose Luke gsy so who was the problem in Chicago then because Luke gsy found another job well here’s what it says here this is from ESPN and Paul Gutierrez who cover the Raiders down there here’s something interesting in his

Reintroduction news conference last month Raiders head coach Antonio Pier said he wanted a minimum of 24 points per game out of a new offensive coordinator ra the Raiders averaged 19.5 points per game under Josh McDaniels and interim offensive coordinator Bo hardigree averaged 24 points per game the Raiders would need to score 48

Points a mark they have hit only three times since their 2002 Super Bowl season Pierce as an incoming Offensive Coordinator would have to be a teacher who can quote adjust on the fly during games that doesn’t sound like like something Lui could do quote you’ve got

To be able to run the football play action pass Pierce said what are the Raiders known for the vertical passing game right we want to see the shots down the field we want the explosive plays that has to be a part of the creativity you look at the ships the Motions all

That stuff goes into it just think when the Raiders were playing really good football that’s going to be your offensive coordinator hopefully as we go forward as the article that ends up indicating gaty brings that run heavy mentality to pierce the Bears LED the NFL and rushing in 2022 finished second

In 2023 that is true thanks to Luke gsy but of course their quarterback situation and their passing game was bad under gaty they were last in passing offense in 2022 they were 27th this past year they averaged about 21 points per game so certainly at the surface somewh

Have been upgrade over what the Raiders had last year but will it fulfill everything and Antonio Pierce new head coach is going to be looking for that’s the question now it says here a potentially intriguing plot twist is gs’s relationship with Justin Fields Fields might be a trade Target for the Raiders

Whoa I didn’t see this this morning Fields might be a trade Target for the Raiders who hold the number 13 overall draft pick and are likely to move on from Jimmy Garoppolo Aiden oconnell showed himself to be serviceable as a backup but he was immobile in the

Pocket there’s no way in the world that they’re going to trade for Justin Fields why did they even put that in that article I don’t know that was stupid right I mean you really think that now with them hiring Luke getsy they’re just going to trade for adjusted fields and replay the

Train wreck over and over again in Las Vegas Antonio Pierce just became the permanent head coach he’s not going to do that to himself and Tom Tesco the new D GM is not going to do that to himself so that’s kind of a dumb thing to throw into that

Article the Raiders last year went 8 n Raiders quarterbacks last year though combined for for an 80.1 passer rating ouch says here and they add some quotes in here from the Bears and from people who are angry about Luke G I want to read these off to you because this

Really adds to the context surrounding this higher in Chicago player frustrations over the Bears offense showed several times during the 2023 season beginning in week three when Fields pointed to coaching as the reason behind his robotic play wi receiver DJ Moore also indicated lack of consistent explosive plays and then eberl said at

Eberl quote after the season quote the growth and the development of the offense to me needed to be better than what it was you look at the passing game certainly that’s one aspect of it and that’s where it is we decided to move on from that K’s offense in Chicago ranked

17th in points per game at 20.4 which was the Bears highest Mark since ranking 11th in 2018 under Matt naggie H and that pretty much concludes the article so the Raiders choose to kind of go outside of the box although Luke gatsy had interviews elsewhere here’s what I find interesting

About this whole luk gatsy thing we talked about this on the program this past week with after the mark paash interview and I’m going to kind of say it again say what you want about Luke gatsy I find it interesting that for the failure that he was deemed to be here in

Chicago and he wasn’t perfect I’m not defending luky but I’m just saying for the failure that he was deemed to be for the hate and vital that he consumed week after week I do find it interesting that just after he got fired in his first ever go around as an offensive

Coordinator he is getting a lateral position with a different team in position to do good I don’t think the Raiders are going to be a crap team this year I think they have the potential to be a solid football team now they need to figure out quarterback

They need to figure out what they’re going to do at that position but I’ll tell you what they’re not going to go 5- 11 5- 12 next year they’re probably going to be a 500 maybe an above 500 team Luke gatsy made a lateral move he didn’t have to go

Back to being a passing coordinator right passing game coordinator or quarterback coach or wide receivers coach he just went from one team to another and he’s still calling plays point being the Raiders so but he did in Chicago and said you know what he is not

A bad play caller he’s not a bad play caller that’s why we want him to call plays here that is interesting that is what should be taken away from this um big story about Luke gatsy right that to me is the biggest take away somebody else in the National

Football League thought but he was good enough to call plays for them offensively and you know what they took a chance on him and hired him so whether you like it or not Luke gatsy is going to be calling plays in the NFL next year

If you think he’s bad or you hate him that’s that’s on you because the reality is he will be calling plays for a different team next year and there’s nothing nobody could say about it nothing nothing nobody could say about it so I just find it incredibly interesting that here in Chicago you

Know kicking people out everybody getting all angry about luk Etsy and was he part of the problem absolutely was Justin Fields part of the problem absolutely but here at the end of the day now the post Luke gety era in Chicago well here’s Luke gety finding another job calling plays not becoming a

Passing game coordinator calling plays for a different organization he is being trusted by a completely different organization with no ties to Chicago whatsoever to call plays this is an this is an unbiased organiz ation who was from the outside looking in to these fields and Letty crap and all these

People crying and begging and screaming and they said you know what based on what he is as a play caller and what he’s done we feel that he’s qualified enough to be our play caller so like it or not the rest of the NFL feels that he

Is a talented play caller do I feel that way not really but I will say this and I said it before and I’ll say it again this already proves that it was not 100% Luke getsy fault for what happened here in Chicago with him at Justin

Fields this proves it right here he got hired he is going to be C plays he starts today coaching and working and getting ready that proves that it’s not all on luk KY for what happened to justtin Fields justed Fields shoulders some if not more than 50% of the

Blame tough thing to hear for Bears fans but it’s true this hiring just further proves it it just further proves it I’m G to read some of your comments here let’s see Fields is an inconsistent qb1 who misses receivers left and right and is the slowest released qb1 in the

NFL I wonder when Bears fans will wake up wait he does prove anything until he proves he’s a capable OC with the Raiders and let’s see um gsy wasn’t good OC but he was definitely the scapegoat BL threw him out of the bus to keep his own job and

You know we talked about that a little bit on Wednesday night with Mark podes why did mat bplo deserve to stay you know he he was a nightmare of a coach this year and yet here we are at the end of the day with at e PLO still coaching

And Luke gsy who was fired and you know at one point looked like the scapegoat unfairly at least now gets a fair second chance with a storyed franchise and a real good opportunity for him to Bo Bo his credibility around the football around the NFL National Football League that I find

Interesting oh well Cliff Kingsbury withdrew himself that’s why gaty got hired I don’t care what the reasoning is the fact is he’s hired the fact is he is on a team and he’s going to be calling plays next year he’s getting a second chance if Luke gety was that bad

He would not be getting a second chance look at Mark tresman right Mark tresman did he get a second chance he became a coordinator he never was a head coach again again in football because everybody knew nope I don’t want him nope he’s not good enough nope the Bears

Made a stupid move and you know that’s not the guy we want to deal with luk gs’s respected enough around the game to get another opportunity calling plays in a completely different organization that speaks to his skill and to his credibility whether Bears fans like it or

Not did um pardon me uh did did uh did Cliff get hired someplace else he’s going to be hired by the Washington commanders so he goes with commanders okay Philip Kingsbury is going to the commanders yes that was H that was John Meadows by the way guys John Meadows

Here in the building everybody hanging out with us yeah clip Kingsbury is um most likely I should say going to be hired by the commanders it’s not official yet but Kingsbury withdrew his name from the Raiders search and apparently the Commanders going to be um you know going after him pretty

Strong Fields 44 sacks in 13 games pent five sacks in four games same same o line same OC different wide receivers yeah I mean and I’m not going to sit here and say the Tyson P’s the answer in Chicago but you can’t argue with some of those

Numbers you know what I find funny too and I remember hearing this during the postgame shows after every Bears game throughout the year everybody calling an angry pissed whining crying I’d sit there and say well Luke gaty doesn’t call enough passing place no no no Justin Fields ran on 10 15 passing plays

Per game and he should have thrown the damn football there’s a [Laughter] difference right there’s a difference I’m not going to be sitting here defending Lukey but all I’m going to say is that clearly he was and still is in demand clearly There’s an opportunity for him to do something good

Elsewhere and I wish him all the best I really hope he does well for his own sake he’s going to get a fair shot with a quarterback that’s to be determined right now I hope it works really do because then over time we’re going to know and learn more and more about who

Was right and who was wrong with the fields and Luke gety and you know Bears debate we will learn more as time goes on so now luksi has a new location right so how will luksi do in this new location we’re going to end up probably seeing Justin Fields going to new

Location as well that’s going to be interesting so we’re going to see how these guys do separate from one another who Rises to the top do they both do well without each other does one do well and the other not do both stink right we’re going to find this out but

This is the beginning of the post Luke gatsy Justin Fields era and this is the beginning of truly judging I guess who was at fault for what happened here in Chicago cuz I’ll tell you what if Luke gatsy somehow someway succeeds in Las Vegas well it’s not going to look good

On Justin fields or the Bears for firing him and making him the scapegoat when he really you know wasn’t really his fault so this will actually show that the beginning of this whole thing will begin to show who was truly at fault for what happened here in

Chicago Lucas exactly the very least we know who was more on if field stays still has the same issues okay but I think we’re going to be keeping Fields Fair Point JF bottom 23rd rank QB in the NFL JF 1’s a superstar if you don’t see it

You don’t know Talent okay well then explain to me why he is a superstar B minor that’s what I want to know Fields has never playing in the Bears Jersey again in demand the Raiders hired Cliff Kingsbury changed his mind gatsy was a bargain basement backup and

Here’s what I’ll say to that tactical Trading gatsy still had interviews with other he had options gety interviewed with the Patriots and the Saints and the Raiders so he was also in demand he interviewed with three different teams wasn’t like this was just a oh okay I

Guess we’re going to hire Luke gety he had options too believe it or not you don’t like it that’s on you but it’s not a lie it’s true he did have options with different teams he interviewed couple of places and B minor again I I I challenge

You to tell me why or how Justin Fields is a superstar because I’ll tell you what I’m not impressed okay Superstar quarterbacks throw for more than 3,000 yards Superstar quarterbacks are not 10 and 29 I mean we could just go on and on and on jf1 can make wild plays but the worst

Pass rating quart four in the NFL that’s a tell thank you thank you and that’s the best way to put it you know Justin Fields is due for one highlight play every single game there’s no doubt about it I won’t even deny it it’s true and they’re really great plays but in

General he’s 10 and 29 he has the worst fourth quarter passor rating in all of football he’s the slowest quarterback in all of football in terms of uh releasing the ball from the snap he’s never thrown for 3,000 yards and I don’t know ever will so there are

Qualifiers there you could say I mean come on guys really superstar quarterback then that means Zach Bolson must be a superstar because they’re essentially putting up the same numbers and you could get all pissed and angry all you want it’s literally the truth go look up their numbers so that

Means if you think Justin field and this goes back to the National media you know people are laughing at Chicago they really are I know people who laugh at the Bears and laugh at Chicago and their fan base you know why because they’re sticking up for a subpar quarterback and I’ve seen

People laugh in the National media laugh saying I can’t believe all these people are defending Justin fields and it’s so true because if it was in any other Market if it was with or you know with any other player even there would be a realistic conversation about what

They’re really good at okay but with justtin Fields we’re going to jump through a million hoops and justify why he should stay and just ignore all the bad things he’s done focus on the good doesn’t make any sense and this doesn’t mean I’m a Caleb Williams guy either I’m just saying that

Looking at this logically proj justed fields and for his sake there has not been enough there to impress no way and if you guys don’t see it that’s okay everybody’s entitled to their own opinion but think the sho’s on the other foot think the sho’s on the other foot in

Terms of what should really be going on there the remember when the Cubs broke up their core members the reset of this position is needed and Aaron you’re 100% right everybody was angry and sad about the Cubs deciding to trade Bas and Bryant and Rizo and what are they all

Doing now a whole lot of nothing OB your buyers got paid six-year big time deal in Detroit he had 220 last year Chris Bryant has hit like only eight home runs at IR Rock’s uniform and he’s in year three of a 7year $150 million contract and Anthony Rizzo last year after

Getting hurt in May was never the same player all of those guys whom Cubs fans adored and were so angry at Jed Hoyer portraying well look what they’re doing now look what the Cubs are doing now right same thing here in Chicago with the Bears in Justin Fields you’re all

Going to be mad and angry and cry about Fields leaving when the Bears finally do it though and actually draft a quarterback and bring body in who’s capable of I don’t know throwing for 3,000 yards or maybe even 4,000 you’re quickly going to realize all right this

Is how things should be going in Chicago fields in my opinion is going to have a good year and if you’re going to judge him off this year good or bad if he stays he goes I don’t know I only know our situation let’s see here what are you

Going to do when they keep jf1 I’m going to wait and see what happens let’s see if they do keep jf1 right let’s see if they do keep Justin fields and if they do good for them don’t think it’s the right move but if they do it so be it

And we’ll see what happens right because at the end of the day um you know if he doesn’t work out the Bears are only digging themselves into a deeper hole if they choose to hold on to justed Fields let’s say they do and he does the same thing he did this year

Then you know at the end of the day it’s the Bears who are settling for mediocrity and who enjoy mediocrity and then it’s the fans too for supporting that decision so at the end of the day I’ll have no sympathy if they settle for fields and he just does the same thing

He’s always been doing and then people are going to cry and complain next year about why they went s and8 or you know 7- 10 or 8- n again or 9 and8 and Justin Fields through for 2,800 passing yards it’ll be the same thing then everybody’s going to be

Pissed so you know the end of the yeah we’ve been saying Fields is going to have a good year for years right thank you I mean last year before the season began everybody was predicting an MVP year for justed Fields okay yep MVP for 2400 passing yards and you know top of

The NFL and fumbles and turnovers in total I mean come on it’s ridiculous the end of the day we’re not riding polls it is his choice and I like polls but I don’t like mediocrity thank you Aaron let’s see John it’s a cult to personality jf1 has never hit 3,000

Yards it’s not a lie that’s the truth whether you like it or not Justin Fields averaged only n and a half less yards per quarter than Patrick Mahomes this season um he’ll have a better year this year last season to prove himself H over QB and you know what hey I’m okay with

That um justification I really am because at the end of the day I’m not opposed to the Bears trading the number one pick and getting three top picks if that’s what they want to do if that if that’s what Ryan PS truly thinks that it’s going to help the Bears the

Most that I’m okay with them doing that and I I don’t mind the justification being there’s going to be a hall but again I’m just saying at the end of the day if it doesn’t work out the Bears going to have an opening at quarterback again fields in my opinion can be great

Why do we keep going off years ago the last half of the year fields looked pretty damn good I’m going to I’m going to push back a little bit on that Lucas I don’t think he looked pretty damn good he looked fine but really at the end of

The day all he did was play more conservative football which led to less turnovers he still made mistakes he still blew leads late in games he by you know not scoring or not doing it up in the fourth quarter that fourth quarter passer rating was the worst in football

All year not just during the first half of the season so there were issues that persisted throughout the year that he still has not grown up from and improved upon that’s a problem for sure I don’t think he looked pretty damn good nope I think he was an average quarter he was

Below average and he became average and if that’s our standard for pretty damn good then we as fans in Chicago which is true we quarterback hungry and quarterback depraved because pretty damn good would be 300 passing yards a game four touchdowns no picks that’s pretty damn good Fields threw for 300 yards

Last year twice so no he wasn’t pretty damn good he was fine uh yeah he did Lucas he did blow leads right remember the Browns game where the Bears were up by what 10 in the fourth quarter and the Bears just couldn’t do anything you can blame luki if you want

But Justin Fields also had a role to play in that that’s true same with the Lions game when fields at the end of the game fumbled the football when they had one last chance to score that’s true when Fields threw a bunch of interceptions in the fourth quarter

Against the Broncos and blew the game in the fourth quarter that’s true you know so we could sit here and talk more and more about what he did but see the more I bring that up the more people are going to get angry so I’m trying to keep

This balanced but if we really want to dig into it we could we can talk more and more about it if we want to whe the people like it or not so be it Fields fumbled in the fourth quarter in three out of the four blown leads after you put on his highlights

Put on his low lights yep JF one could be special with a better play caller and better Playmakers around him I just hope that it’s in Chicago Fair Point numbers don’t like Fields is not Elite nor a average Quarterback I don’t hate him but

I do expect more of him and less and if you’re in Elite QB you know how to make do with less trade for a hall from Washington and reset the clock Dr Drake May era okay Drake May so be it Justin Fields led the League’s highest touchdown to interception ratio

Against playoff teams this season okay I mean that’s a fair point and his record against playoff teams uh this season was what he was 0 and three against playoff teams on the road so again got to be careful with what numbers we’re doing and what numbers we’re using you had to

Love that Vikings game defense gave us sorry ass the ball five extra times and he still couldn’t put the ball in the end zone thank you thank you so much the knock on feels is that he isn’t he hasn’t show that he is the talent in spite of all the other deficiencies and

That’s a fair point too and this goes back to being a good quarterback right right if you’re a good quarterback you elevate the players around you right you’re an elevator you move people up you don’t tear people down or bring them down in Justin Field’s case I have not

Seen anything to indicate that he is an elevator of people around him I’ve seen him himself just trying to develop and still trying to learn but nobody’s gotten better because Justin Fields is the quarterback the team is the same there’s it’s stagnation there’s no growth and you can’t argue with that that’s the

Truth so you know again you got to be careful in terms of um justifying him staying in Chicago and and really trying to defend him as much as people do because I could sit here and pull up five different stats or I could sit here and pull up 10 different instances uh

For why the bear should not keep fields and they’re all pretty easy to find and to point out and here’s another one thank you Jay Golds Fields has thrown for less than 200 yards in 27 out of 39 starts wow yes less than 200 yards not even 300 he’s

Only hit 300 twice in his whole career and yet you people are saying he’s Elite or some people are saying he’s Elite oh my goodness wow okay now for the S adjusted Fields a change of scenery is needed to reestablish his career as a QB even bringing in a veteran to sit in

The pocket and groom beon is better than Fields Packers fans keep Justin Fields thank you who was he throwing to uh he’s throwing to DJ Moore throwing to Darnell Mooney throwing to co Kat come on nope not a good enough answer because the year before you could say who was he throwing

To not this year after Ryan P’s brought in DJ more nope it’s not a good enough excuse where’s Jordan Love’s excuse who was Jordan love thrown to that’s right nobody and look what Jordan love did man I’m so sick of those excuses not good enough excuses to me

Man Quay Walker make Justin Fields play quarterback and you have a good chance to beat him that’s the same thing the Packers said about Mitch trabis too literally the same thing to a te that’s what they said about Mitch trabis so I mean if they’re repeating the same thing about uh about Mitch

Trabis and now they’re attributing that to justtin Fields that’s a red flag right that’s a big red flag look at CJ Stout same amount of wins as fields in year one yeah pretty much right stra didn’t he win 10 games didn’t they win 10 games and Fields has

10 in his career stra first season 10 wins excuses get you knowwhere believe me I know this be truthful in the manner and understand this understand this we don’t have an established QB thank you Aaron again no excuses Fields has a passer sucess percentage of only 38

That’s says that stat says it all 38 is the same as his rookie year qbr 46 this is a step backwards thank you I believe he still has the potential we have a better play caller hopefully we get mhj bolster the o line one more year and

Blue Bay you know I appreciate your commentary I really do not getting angry or nasty about it you’re giving logical reasons why you feel that way I disagree but that’s okay I’m okay I’m not going to sit there and push back cuz that is a viable option I don’t know if it’s going

To work or not but it’s a viable option that’s better than saying I just think Justin Fields is Elite and you’re being a hater different story and uh let’s see here he could have had a few 300 yards games how many passes were dropped sto the cap all right come

On we can play the same game with Mitch trabis then B minor let’s play the same game with Mitch how many balls were dropped how many issues occurred right and Mitch still put up way better numbers than Justin fields ever had so again the what a should a Coulda game does not

Work the facts are the facts I don’t care how many passes were dropped he was thrown to decent wide receivers and he’s probably going to be thrown to even better ones if he sticks around this year bad excuse doesn’t work anymore you’re making excuses in year

Three your qb1 is not the guy John true D yeah yeah yeah I’ve said that and I’ll continue to say it you’re right go ahead yeah John Meadow is gonna hop in here too and say something let’s see if I can get in here go ahead um the thing that I wanted to

Say to the person it was uh what it was Green Bay that said you know treat you know Justin Fields like you know uh like we treat MIT trubitsky correct yep so we did an entire segment of when they they said that in the off seon and we did a segment

That uh Justin Fields was going to do way better than Mitch trabis if we if Green Bay treats it like that and the reason well at least personally the reason I carry so much anger is just because Green Bay came in did exactly that and stopped on us twice

Now my my views on quarterback position no very and you know I’m I’m old so I’m very used to staying with a guy four years 8 years 10 years you know just riding a guy out the NFL at least it’s my perception that the NFL recently if a guy doesn’t produce in

Six games everybody wants to drag the guy out behind the shed and shoot him I’m not I’m not in that camp but I’m also I mean I’m on the fence with Justin I I particularly don’t want to keep him but I I just I that that whole Green Bay

Thing is going to stick stick with me for a while and and and I I don’t I don’t understand how field supporters don’t don’t acknowledge that I mean they came in we talked and I said this in the last show we talked so much trash in the off season so much

Trash especially at Green Bay and we do this all the time we do nothing but talk trash to Green Bay and then they come in and kick the crap out of us we haven’t won a game with Green Bay in five years so one thing with Bears fans I really

Wish they would shut the f up about it until we start winning some games damn John is hot yeah Ean Aaron said passion John yes sir and he’s 100% correct on all of it on all of it right you got people talking trash people saying well you know oh yeah Justin

Field’s delete blah blah blah and yet the Packers came in and kicked the crap out of the Bears twice again and it continues to happen it continues to happen toine what an elite player is Trey Lance Daniel Jones Deshawn Watson Dak Prescott paycheck says they’re Elite

But it doesn’t show on the field of play thank you yes Justin Fields is one out of one 32 out of 7.8 billion those are the numbers Justin Fields is Elite then by that logic Bap then by that logic you would have no problem with me saying

That Kirk Cousins is a lead you’d have no problem with me saying Mitch trabis is a lead same with Kenny picket um who else could we throw into that mix Baker Mayfield Kyle tras his backup um who else Gino Smith Drew lock because he started a game this year in the NFL

Tyson Bean see that’s a dumb way to um categorize whether or not Ur qu back bad way to categorize it CU if that’s the case if that’s the case then there you go then those quarterbacks are at lead so I’m going to start saying on this

Show that um you know I guess Kenny picket an elite quarterback Kirk Cousins is an elite quarterback Zack Wilson thank you yep Nano CBD and Elite quarterback yes Les Sigman I’m ready to speak sometime John okay Les um hey if you want to do me a favor Les can you

Shoot me an email CU we got it monitored right now say at sportstalk Chicago 1@gmail.com if you could shoot us an email just saying hey you know it’s last I’m want to come on with you that’d be great and then we’ll shoot you the link

To hop on with us live so um Les just shoot us an email it’s pinned in the comment section I have my email open John does as well we’ll be able to uh kind of patch you through here relatively quickly so feel free to shoot

Us an email uh Les and we’ll we’ll be sure to get on it and monitor it and I’m sure last as you know um you know no no swearing right let’s keep it clean for everybody out there um act like you’re on the radio we’re not on the

Radio this is online but let’s keep it clean and we’d love to have you on and contribute and you know get to what you want to say here so just shoot us an email I got my email open and I’ll be waiting for it we will send you the link

In the email to hop on in with us live here on STC h s parents fans like watching bad mediocre QBs then bring back Sexy Rexy please stop calling a QB that can’t pass talented it sounds crazy well hey don’t look at me got to be talking about

Other people right I didn’t say I didn’t say he was talented uhuh who brought up sexy in the chat because that was Cole stall brought up Sexy Rexy um RX gan’s probably the Bears player that I hate the most in all of Bear’s history RX grman is uh yeah

The guy I hate the most well he hold on John I’ll say this though right According to some people in the chat though he must have been Elite right because he was a starting quarterback in the NFL so we could say that Rex grosman is Elite let let me add to this Elite

Conversation so when we anybody who plays and no matter even if you’re riding the bench your entire career you’re an elite athlete that is not that’s not the you know argument we’re making we’re talking about the elite amongst the elite players along amongst the NFL so that to say that Justin Fields isn’t

Talented or an elite you know beat out a whole bunch of people to get to the NFL that’s not what we saying what we’re saying is can he hack it as a bear or hack it in the league and and no who knows maybe he’ll do great in another

Team if we keep him he better improve or or this town’s going to turn on him at least they should I mean they should they they they should I mean not you know not turn out in in a bad way just know change their change their

Minds oh I love this uh Aaron Kyle Orton was more Elite than Grossman I said said it uh Taylor hecki is Elite yeah same with Desmond Ritter right Desmond Ritter I remember Rex Gman and being pump when we drafted him he was such a disappointment he shined here

And there but overall was never good Bryce young must be elite oh man nanoc CBD you’re on a roll my friend yeah you just keep going you could rattle off as many quarterbacks as you want um oh that’s so funny that’s hilarious if trabis outperformed fields in his first

Three years and they call trabis a boss then what does that mean Justin Fields uhoh yep and that’s that’s an easy way to dispel the uh you know the Justin Fields narrative right simply simply bringing up the facts simply bringing up the truth of the matter and again this

Is not meant to disparage this is not meant to crap or whatever this is just we’re just being honest here right we’re trying to be honest and look at this from a uh honest lens versus the opposite which is bias and you know favoritism and that’s not what we’re

Trying to do here JaMarcus Russell was a lead thank you yep so here we go where we could I mean we could just go on and on I mean the conversation never to end Ryan Leaf was Elite right I mean we could keep going and going with

This uh Rex played in the Super Bowl so he’s a Hall of Famer amongst Bears QBs the standards here are pathetic thank you yes Cole you’re right you’re right man I love this man we’re having a good time today oh it’s good to see everybody

Man I love the logic and I and I love the uh The Comebacks yeah the list goes on and it’s never ending um Nick Mullins pass for over 800 yards in two games against the Lions this year he must be Hall of Fame Elite yeah pretty much oh it’s so

Funny I want to throw something in here and I I don’t mean to change us did you see um um did you did you see what uh hold on just quick second yeah no I didn’t actually okay yeah John John’s going to do some uh producer research for me

We’re going to talk about a a topic coming up Justin Fields average 247 yards per game this season you’re talking about total yards right PF because I know for passing it was less than 200 so if you’re talking total yards yes you’re correct if you’re talking passing you’re wrong to play in

This city it’s not only the skills or talent but you have to have the mental capacity and tough to respond to critics too many Bears fans act like Mahomes and another Elite QBs don’t miss open receivers each week no one’s perfect he I appreciate that comment it’s very

True Elite QBs in the league here we go from tacticals trading um momes burough strad Allan Rogers Prescott Herbert are the only Elite QBs in the league okay Sam haml is Elite you know I like Sam H come on I like Sam H um you think the Bears going to pick

Up Caleb Williams I have a sick feeling they won’t do it although a lot of NFL draft analysts including one who’s been really vocal is Daniel Jeremiah right um who’s been saying the same thing that you know the Bears it’s almost a no-brainer for the Bears to pick Caleb

Williams at number one I mean I could see them screwing this up because that’s what the Bears are known to do we’re going to really have to see how this one plays out but I mean what it’s early February now we’re only two months away

So you know we will see a decision come soon about what exactly is going to occur andless brother if you’re still here I’m waiting on you too waiting for your email and that goes for anybody by the way Aaron you know anybody all of our friends who love to comment here you

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Been coming up with great points join us on screen if you’d like as well got the email open we’re monitoring for sure the Cardinals will give away their entire draft and their first next year for the number one pick you’re probably right and that’ll be the end of the day

For uh well for what um Kyler Murray probably there’s no doubt that Justin Fields is somewhat of a good leader I think that he is certainly highly respected I would but I want you to keep your channel hey the ghost of Judah tribe if you could just not swear come

On and email me man I know you you’re certainly a uh very very supporter fan too so you know if you want to email me you can we’ll throw you right on what an active chat though I will say we got 93 people here with us watching that’s awesome Fields has been injured

In Miss games the past two seasons yeah it is true that is true I agree hey we got an email John from uh Les Les Sigman Les we’re going to try and catch in here headon so I can hear you that’s probably that’s probably important all right got your email left

I grab the headphones as well we’re gonna John is gonna send you uh the link we’re going to throw you right here up on the screen my friend just give us a second it goes to Judith tribe h hit the like button Bears fans thank you yeah you’re

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See John’s tapping throwing the link in so he just sent it to you from the Sports Talk Chicago on Gmail account John and I uh have um access to it so John just sent it to you from that account and when you receive it can hop

On into the back end of the streamyard stream we’ll put you live on the air here and um talk about whatever you’d like to discuss last set in the to you’re going to be the first one ever to kind of do this here with us and we’re certainly appreciative and then we’re

Looking forward to having more people do it too it’s awesome and last you can be done by phone yes you could use the camera on your phone to hop in for sure so it doesn’t need to be in a you know Studio setup or anything like that Josh jobs is

An elite passer draft Dr Phil says Williams is a great pocket passer yeah and I and hey I love the guys at tape number Li very good people certainly supporters of this channel um you know they know what they’re talking about too so you know I certainly trust their

Judgment and I know you I think we’re both in agreement about Justin Fields I believe we are and about his future in Chicago and what the bear should do concerning this draft so so Les just commented I know he said if he could do it by phone you can so

Yeah feel free to tap on that link Les and hop on in John’s got things ready on the back end too should be interesting because the Raiders don’t have a quarterback I fully agree I’m very curious to see who their quarterback is essentially going to be right I don’t

Know who it’s going to be I don’t know who they’re going to end up pairing um getsy with but I’m interested to see how that plays out for sure I think that’s going to be something reset the QB contract and the QB clock and Williams says Mr Perry

Nanoc CBD I’m watching the tape on Williams awesome he makes anticipatory throws Dan Tana Dan good to see you man and by the way Dan you know you too I know so we got Les who’s going to be popping on here in a second Dan you or anybody else anybody emailed us Sports

Talk Chicago 1@gmail.com you want to hop on with us we’re going to put you right here on the air too and have a conversation anybody everyone’s welcome as long as we can keep it clean all right is Les back there okay yeah you could tap him in I I don’t yeah let’s

See what he has to say all right here we go Les what’s going on man alrighty I guess I’m live you’re live you’re with us you’re you’re the first ever guest uh you know doing these live streams so welcome thanks for being the trend Setter and starting things off what are

You thinking man great to see you well I tell you what um thank you for having me yeah I’m a lifelong Bears fan actually a Chicago fan um and just to see this Whirlwind of you know stuff that they go through every year it’s always the same

Thing I mean we can go back to Kate mcnown you know and everybody thought that was a great thing um and and it’s in the coaching Carousel once again we we totally strike out on the Jim harball thing and and allow him to go to San Diego you

Know so I I don’t know I mean in all reality um the whole Justin Fields thing look I’m from Ohio I’ve watched this guy play at Ohio State the dude had every weapon in front of him um he had everything you know all the weapons to

Throw too he had all the time in the world and it it it transferred over to Chicago you know he holds the ball for three four seconds sometimes five maybe even longer and expects to you know not to be sacked not to be you know hurried

You know I don’t know what he’s waiting for if he’s eating Fig Newtons back there or what um but you’ve got NFL Windows to throw that ball yeah are they Tight Windows absolutely this is the NFL this is the big time and the one thing and

I’ll I’ll say it again the one thing I liked about Tyson bent was he is quick he was decisive he knew where he was going with the ball now the one thing I don’t like about Tyson vent is the hopping that he does behind the line they they pointed out that when those

Two interceptions he threw he literally up in the air on the wrong foot and and that takes velocity off the ball and it’s just that I think that boy you know had some excitement right so first couple games you know he’s trying to prove what he’s learned look he showed a

Lot in the the two and two start right am I right on that I mean I think you’re right oh yeah I I think he looked really good for the I’m not saying he’s a franchise guy but you know it wouldn’t hurt to let this guy learn a little bit

And see what he can do um you know do we have to draft you know this QB at number one I think we could I think we should um meaning Caleb Williams and you know but this whole thing’s got me concerned too is he a diva you know you got all

These reports coming out how he doesn’t want to come to Chicago and and you don’t know what’s true and what’s not true then he puts an Instagram photo of him as a baby wearing a like a be t-shirt saying so what’s that supposed to mean you know so I don’t know when I

When it comes down to Fields Fields is not the guy guys um I watch a lot of TT you know NL tape never lies Network I watch you John um I’ve actually watched you since you started and always enjoyed your content even on the Cubs Die Hard Cubs fan um so um I

Don’t know what what’s your thoughts I mean should we take Caleb Williams on one uh do we see what we got maybe go back to get some more weapons the wide receivers you know a center something else still trade Fields why not see what you know the young kids got again do we

Do that I mean I’m just asking I don’t know well yeah first of all last I I appreciate the kind words and I certainly appreciate um just all of your points that you made you know I mean if I had to choose today I I would go with

Caleb Williams simply because number one you’re resetting the quarterback clock and you’re going to bring in a rookie quarterback with a a fresh five-year deal um which you don’t have to necessarily pay him a ton of money and I think you know and I’ve said this before

And I think you know this if we’re still debating about who Justin Fields is entering his fourth year in the National Football League I just I think we’ve seen enough I think we know who Justin Fields is as a quarterback this is somebody who’s 10 and 29 who hasn’t

Thrown for 3,000 yards who has the slowest release in all of football who is turnover prone and who certainly has issues in terms of finding open receivers downfield and you know these are the same critiques and I know people don’t like me saying this like Mitch trabis is a buzzword in the Bears

Community but I’m just going to say it right these were the same critiques that uh Mitch trisk had right these are the same issues that uh befed Mitch trabis and eventually led to his demise not even just in Chicago but across the NFL so my my whole thing is you know why are

We going to make exceptions for somebody who’s doing the exact same thing and then you have the number one overall pick just sitting there I think this is the year you’re gonna have to DRFT the quarterback and move on y yeah and I agree with that um and go to go back to

Mitch dbis I mean I I love that guy I mean I’m sorry I thought I thought he was good I thought he was a great leader um did he have issues absolutely but if you watch that NFC champion or not the NFC Championship the game The Double Do

Game yes um if you watch those throws he was making some of the ridiculous throws that everybody’s like oh this guy can’t throw and it’s like he was making awesome throws awesome reads but what’s sad is you now see him in Pittsburgh he looks like a busted shell of himself you

Know what happened to him in Chicago is a is probably ruined a poor kid thanks to naggie I mean we look at everything naggie was and you know if he didn’t con formed to his way you know if naggie just kept doing what he was doing with

Trabis you had you had a solid you had a solid thing going you don’t need a a you know a spectacular offense or you know critique to how you want to call it you go to the quarterback strengths and that’s what they did when you know they

Had that 11 and Four Season or 12- four season and uh and it’s like why didn’t you just stick to that game plan and then you go you went away from uh I believe uh who was the running back help me out before we got mcgomery Jordan

Howard Jordan Howard thank you oh yeah you Jordan Howard who wasn’t bad and then you totally you know just move him off and you bring in mcgomery and then you he’s the identity right Montgomery was clearly our identity and then you go away from that every every game you

You’d have a six-yard run you wouldn’t see him 10 plays later you know and it’s like what what do you do I mean and it continued it’s continuing now you know well with gy you know and erlu um same thing you have the running game working for you and then

You know you go for okay you’re you’re fourth and one and you’re going shotgun for a quarterback sneak really you just you’re adding three yards to a play that you only need one yard on and you’re you’re you it just makes no sense so I’m really surprised to hear that gsy

Got a Raiders job is that correct he did yep as of today he got higher wow I I you know he he called some good plays but he’s called some horrible plays you know you don’t sit there and you don’t put your quarterback in shotgun you know and that’s another thing you

Know I don’t understand the shotgun thing you know it seemed like we had our best plays when Justin got his hands in under Center literally I mean it seemed like the more he was under Center he was able to you know do a better play action pass

Whatever um and that they just gave him the availa availability to create and and I don’t know but I Justin Fields again he’s not the guy and uh and I I don’t know I mean is Caleb William could Caleb Williams be the guy I I think so I

Think he’s he’s got a lot of you know promise I mean he’s shown a lot of promise and once again I’m going to call out you know T never lies Network they broke down all his tape all I think 56 games and they showed the bad and they

Showed all the good and they said there’s a lot of good that outweighs the bad so take a chance guys let’s do it I love it Les and I I yeah I appreciate you calling in I mean I I feel the exact same way as you and I you

Know I’m thinking about now I like your point on bent too um you know I think there was a lot there was a very short fuse everybody fuse with everybody when it came to Tyson p and I’m not going to sit here and say that he is this Elite

You know next coming amazing quarterback but I will say this you know there were worst quarterbacks in the National Football League this past year who got multiple games to start somebody like Aiden oconnell right Josh jobs there are many I don’t think Tyson bent was horrendous I think he was certainly

Nervous first year quarterback D2 guy just getting an opportunity of course there are nerves then when everybody’s breathing down your neck because they watch it essentially screw up so they can justify bringing justed Fields Back In of course that’s going to mess with you and allall I don’t think he was bad

But like you said right jumping in midair throwing footballs you those are things that need to be worked on they need to be fine-tuned in terms of maybe um physical attributes or maybe I I should say mechanical attributes right he he wasn’t as pure as Justin Fields I

Don’t think he did horrendously either though considering the situation he was put into no and absolutely and the play calling was horrendous at times you know right I mean I mean you can’t expect a kid to you know you’re supposed to bring you know entrylevel plays into somebody

That’s entry level right it’s his first couple games and you know you’re kind of throwing them into the wolves on some of these packages you’re throwing them like I’m like wow okay but but he shined in some of those too and uh you know the

Poise that kid had I was like wow man this I could get behind this kid I mean he doesn’t look like he’s pouting behind the line he doesn’t look like he’s scared for his life I mean I’ve seen some of the faces Justin Fields makes

And he goes into the you know huddle and he looks like he’s scared sometimes you know he gets up to that line he’s making a face like oh my gosh what am I gonna do next you know and I I don’t know and Justin Fields I mean did he improve a

Little bit this year yeah just a little bit not much the numbers don’t really show it I mean not a huge margin um but um I don’t know I just I I feel for the kid too you know because he kind of got screwed over in the Chicago way system you know

So but um going forward though I mean look I’m ready to I’m ready to kind of get this quarterback thing over with um I’m tired of the Bears and and I mean you can go back to Jim McMahon Jim McMahon wasn’t that great either but he

It’s the Super Bowl you know I mean you don’t have to be great you just have to be an efficient you know move the chains type of quarterback you know and when you’re in the Red Zone get it in the end zone you know um and that’s the one thing

That I saw Justin Fields not really exceling is Red Zone play Red Zone play and fourth quarter play Mitch trais had five G game-winning drives I’m just gonna say it and I’m gonna leave it at that because as bad as everybody dogged on trabis that guy that guy sure won his

Five games didn’t he in the fourth quarter whether if he got us into field goal range or through a touchdown so and I like that one guy you always have on too I’m sorry I can’t think of his name but he’s a big Mitch trabis fan too so Mike North yeah Mike

North thank you I love Mike North I love listening to that guy the passion he has and he’s he’s dead on though I mean is and he hasn’t been wrong yet and and I’ve kind of had the same passion about you know what I thought about Mitch Tris

And actually it’s kind of that kind of passion that I’ve seen you know Mike North have for trabis I actually have for you know um God dang it sorry I’m nervous I’m on live so I’m kind of choking here you’re good man Tyson be you know the

Same I have the same passion for be because I’ve actually seen you know I’ve actually seen how he he reacts to pressure and and you know that’s kind of what you want in a leader right you want you want a passionate don’t buckle Under Pressure you know

Type of leader and I I think Tyson be has that but he’s go a he’s go a you know um he’s got to grow into that role though I don’t know if it’s with the Bears or with another team but I like to see somebody give them a full-time gig

Because I’d like to see what this kid can do all right well Les hey man great combats great conversation my friend and um you know next time next time we do a live next Sunday dude feel free to come back in and chime in I certainly appreciated your time here no there’s

There’s always a lot to talk about it comes to when it comes to Chicago Sports and oh yeah and especially the whole Cubs thing and one one more question do you think we’re g to sign Bellinger oh man um I think yes I think the Cubs unfortunately are probably going to have

To overpay to to kind of retain him and bring him back but they have been relatively quiet I would say more quiet than I expected this off season obviously they lost Marcus strowman now via free agency I’m not too heartbroken over that move but you know they have a

Lot of money still sitting around and they claimed that they were going to spend spend spend this offseason it didn’t really happen I feel like they’re probably going to bring back Bellinger but it’s certainly going to be at a price you know my my thing with

Bellinger is what a great year he had last year I’m a little bit worried it’s not going to be sustainable for him but you know we’ll see how it ends up playing out but I I do think they’re going to bring him back it’s just a question of you know working with Scott

Boris to figure out how much money you’re gonna pay him boy that that name seems to ruin a lot of Futures for the Cs you know that’s SC Scott Boris I tell you I know he yeah he’s a he’s definitely the gold digger of the MLB I tell you that but

You know what deservingly so if you got him on your thing you’re going to get paid one way or another but exactly I would love to keep Bellinger and uh and let’s just hope you know like you said is it sustainable I think it could be

Just because of all the injuries he had to overcome yes I think that’s why he was so horrible so but thanks for having me on God bless and uh you have a good day and keep doing what you’re doing Thank You Les God bless you too and

Thank you for hanging out hanging out with us here today that was last Sigman um so just as a reminder everybody this is Sports Talk Chicago John John Meadows contributing directing and producing that was Les Sigman he’s a listener he’s a listener of this program so you know

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Wow what what a really cool and fun conversation fun way to spend some time here on a Sunday afternoon talking all things Bears Luke gy got hired by the Raiders as we kind of discussed and you know Les and I had a good conversation about a number of different things right

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Can hop right in here that went smoothly that went well so we want more people for sure uh but Les that was awesome yeah and I agree B wicked good job Les he did a great job that was really fun I know he was a little bit nervous being

Live uh a lot of people watching but he did a great job so it was really fun to have him hop on in and give his take on what’s going on here in Chicago oh we got another email our man my man Aaron the yes Aaron

Yes oh Aron I’m so happy Aaron’s been a fan since like literally day one so let’s be sure uh Aaron you’re going to get the email now uh from John from the Sports Talk Chicago email address and we’re going to let Aaron on in yes my everybody uh you can follow the

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Thanks Les oh that’s so cool and Les you know you’re welcome back on any time so especially on these Sunday shows where we you know have more of an opportunity to have more engagement you know Wednesday nights we’re recording for the radio all of that’s on a tight schedule

But for these Sunday shows you know we’re keeping it really open and free flowing and uh R I appreciate it man that was awesome all right Aaron Aaron hopping on in yes my man what’s going on Erin how are you John John it’s been a long time coming it has thank you for

Doing this for the fan man I’ve been following you ever since what when you was at a thousand almost 2000 it was during preco right yeah yeah it was uhhuh no and and just and it’s been a blessing just seeing you just Blossom from that day into now like we’re

Already about what four years about four years later almost and I don’t know why but this is obviously always like the best of times whether the Bears are in the playoffs or postseason it’s just like man it’s it’s always entertaining it’s always just nice hearing your perspectives and just getting in a

Conversation so again man it’s it’s an honor and a blessing to finally talk to you man I’m happy to have you here uh yeah for those who don’t know um you know Aaron as he said correctly he’s been with me since like th 2,000 subscribers I think it was um if I’m not

Mistaken there it was a Mike North video I believe that kind of brought you here I think I remember you kind of commented for the first time and I know you’ve been with me ever since um so it’s awesome to kind of have you here a little bit semi face Toof face talking

Bears and I know you and I align on a lot of different Bears opinions so you’re welcome the floor is yours my friend to say what you’d like to say to all of everybody out there everybody watching all right so first of all Mike Mike North is PR is truly an

Inspiration to you though because I never met anyone who has such you know more of an honest journalism than Mike so whenever Mike whatever Mike says it is truth and that’s what we’re all about here though passion truth and just hey just thinking outside of the box because

Us as beis fans we have to come to the terms that like listen when something doesn’t sound or something is not right we gotta be honest and stop sipping the Kool-Aid as you always would say John and let’s let’s just get started though first off like was I sold on the idea of

Justin Fields being like a franchise quarterback at the time when it did happen I was somewhat like a costly optimistic per se because let’s be honest though like did everyone got excited when Matt naggie was here and I hate saying her name too but oh man no like we was all excited because

We want something different want something changed but then the more we you know Dove right into the whole Saga between pace and naggie the more we realize that wait a minute no change coming is still the same mediocrity that we’ve been seeing on the field and we giving away draft Capital just so

That we can get fans in the seats and you know TV revenue and so on and so forth and us as fans like when are we GNA start winning yes when we hear a name it’s wow our eyes just go you know and I’m at that point in my life now

Where it’s like okay we need to start winning so so do I Feel Like A change is needed at the quarterback position yes but here’s the thing not only that we need to change at the quarterback position though but we actually need to start getting it right you we always invest on quarterback

Position but we never invested on the trenches what most teams have we don’t have definitely if you don’t have pass protection well your quarterback’s not gonna be able to hit that tight window or see something that they probably might have missed the linebackers they can’t do their job

Because the front because the front fourward can’t do their job because you don’t have a legitimate pass rusher that’s going to disrupt the quarterback of the opposite end and it’s it’s all a ripple effect so the fact that yeah Po’s coming in he’s TR is investing in the

Line on both sides of the ball which is what we need this is what we need though hence why let’s face it everyone’s giving crap about Jordan love well hey Jordan love has a line Jordan love have capable receivers have an offensive minded staff yes I’m not a fan of Green Bay

Because it’s in my blood to hate the Green Bay but at the same time us as fans we can’t keep you know talking crap not back it up this is First full season and with not as much as experience he pretty much set all the

Other critics up yep I wish I could say the same for Justin Fields because Justin Fields regardless he still have critics yes you may have a streaky four out of five games where you kind of put up total yardage stats but if you not doing at least at least 250 three

Touchdowns then I say okay you’re doing fine but he throwing below 200 and one touchdown like Lamar Jackson can probably put up more numbers than him and he is kind of elite yes definitely and so like you know I love mobile quarterbacks but I think we’re

Starting to steer away from that is good it’s a good skill trait but talent doesn’t get you that far down the road because let’s say Justin Fields is still with the Bears he’s over the age of 30 31 probably can’t run the same because hey either his leg starting to give out

The line is not solidified as it’s supposed to be just to throw the pass and you know and so on and so forth so in hindsight just like I said you know I feel like it’s time to just again re-evaluate the position and then start just producing it on the field because

There’s no sense in sign a free agency though we can’t keep it’s not like the older days like in early 2000 mid 2000s we can’t spend hundreds of millions of dollars on free agencies on Blue Chip collars where now it’s like you have blue chip collars coming out at the

Draft exactly it all comes back to scouting oh yeah and all comes back to scout and believe it or not as much criticism people give Ryan Cole’s with his choices like we have to understand the fact that we’re not in his position he has the most

Stressful job in all of you know Chicago next to Jed hor by the way he’s doing a good job I don’t care what anyone else he’s doing a great job yeah I know you and I aligned on that I knew you were gonna say that no because like it’s just

Like you said like that’s how I Envision polls moving forward is to mirror what Jed Hoyer is doing thinking cost efficiently and putting the right pieces in play you don’t have to spend $200 million which is what I know Scott Boris is asked for its client for Cody Bellinger but me personally

Cody Bellinger is good for like a fiveyear 150 170 million but it won’t be over 200 million and I’m fine with not resigning him just to so that oh we had Cody Bellinger on the team granted I would love Cody B Bellinger to be back

On the team but at the same time you know I’m not gonna waste all my Capital though on just one player where I can just go to the farm and find a hidden gym a hidden talent that we all need granted Matt muris he yeah that was disappointing wasn’t it

I I mean I was expecting so much out of mvis in in a good way too I I bought into it I mean what he had 36 homers 111 RB uh what was it two years ago combined between dou a and AA a and I don’t know

What to expect out of him this year I’m not expecting much yeah yeah yeah granted I’m not expecting much out of him this year although uh I think who who was that who’s the um third baseman we just draft we just traded for with the Dodgers it was a

Michael you know let me take a look yeah yeah uh yeah I would say oh yeah Michael Bush right okay yeah Michael Bush okay so another another case of okay change the scenery put him in a different system let him reset himself and hopefully like you know with a team

Control but maybe one or two years I want to say like give him a try at the hot Corners you know first and third you know see what you’re working with there because the way I see it is is that yeah uh Matt MERS just had that you know that

One hot season in Miners and sometimes you do so well in the minors you never translate into oh yeah it’s been like that for since the the time I I was born and I’m older than you John so I’ve seen them like everybody everybody forgotten about you know what Mark

Prior yep Mark Prior because to me I felt like marike prior was pretty much the second coming to kry wood but again what both have in common is injuries yep just injuries right there you know that 2004 staff Aaron and I know you know about it I mean think about that

Staff at the time and what they were capable of or what they could have been capable of you had Carrie Wood Mark Prior Greg madx and Carlos and brono everybody stayed healthy that would have been one of the better staffs I’d say for a single season in Major League

Baseball history you know I mean you’re talking about like a SM gabin and uh um who am I forgetting SM scabin and Maddox right yeah Maddox and ah man to this to this day I’m still upset about that MADD went to you know atanta now he’s like pretty much torn between

Atlanta and Chicago and all like I granted regardless you know he’s a Hall of Famer for a reason of course you know 100% And and then also let’s let’s put this talk away about Elite athletes now I always like to use this example all the time Tom Brady Tom Brady for

Most in here might have known he was never drafted in the first round he went fifth because most Scouts believe he was you know uh fat and slow and not as you know athletic I guess sitting behind you know Drew bless Show when he was on the

Patriots taught him a lot of things and had that chip on his shoulder the point I’m bringing up with Tom Brady is is that he had a chip on his shoulder and he sat out to let the football community and the world know like hey I didn’t win sudden rings with Elite

Athletes key pieces I became an elite by just being not only that good but just having patience and working on my craft yep and so he definitely set a lot of critics a lot of haters down and and that’s GNA follow him through the rest of his life but you can’t

Deny what he did on the field and he had seven rings Seven Rings yep so so again is Justin field an elite quarterback no he’s not even in the middle of the pack I will probably put him and in in like not even maybe top 25 and he’ll probably

Be like board in line 25 26 I was going to say the same thing so I I think by the same W lank thir too and I want to make it clear and I think Aaron you would agree with this too this is not you know a personal attack on

Justin Fields this is just the reality of the situation after 3 years and what 39 40 games of play this is what we’ve seen so you know it’s up to him to really change that narrative and you know the fact that last year was his third year and we’re just seeing the

Same stuff happen from year 1 to year three there’s relatively little to no improvement you know I mean that tells me that I think we’ve seen enough you know yeah I mean like like after like three seasons you should already have it put all together

Y and all I’m seeing you doing is you’re rushing the ball more than they actually throw regardless of how the offense how the offense is lined up though like hey work with what you got adapt no every position every player at that position you should know where they at

When the plays are being called regardless of if l gsy or any offensive coordinators calling the plays in the headset like hey run the play if if if the play is not there though hey calling all Bible at the line of scrimmage have everybody on the same page

Communication you know but you don’t need to have an elite status around everyone like hey just it’s 12 men it’s it’s 11 men on the field most of the time and you have to trust every single one of those pieces and if you don’t trust pieces if you don’t adapt or you

Don’t make the necessary adjustments to potentially push yourself to that Elite SA stand it’s not the player’s fault it’s your fault oh yeah and exactly and he has to and Justin has to understand like hey man listen I’m the one that has to do better yes even though you’re

Saying that you know post game you know and press conference whatever those was like Hey you have to do better you have to take that next leap and if if you’re not willing to take that next leap then I’m sorry we have to find somebody else who’s willing to take the

Rings Aaron I think that’s I think that’s the way you got to end it man that was like a mic drop you know what I mean that was really good brother um thanks for joining me uh it’s so cool to kind of I guess kind of meet you here

And um I’m looking forward to doing this with you again especially very soon I I hope you you know as we go live more and more I hope you take some time to to join us again live I mean everybody in the comment section certainly appreciated your perspective I’m looking

At the comments right now um and I I appreciated it too man and I appreciate your continued support and if you don’t mind I shouted it out earlier I’ll do it again aon’s a twitch affiliate people so if you go on Twitch you go to o n that’s

Aaron and he has like 280 plus followers on there so uh hit him up today you know give him a follow on Twitch if you’re watching on Twitch Erin thank you so much man John thank you man I greatly appreciate it again hey man shout out to sport armest country farms okay make

Sure you use John once you go there the next time okay I’m not good at this branding but hopefully I’ll get better at it though but thank you again for inviting me on here these conversations man thank you thank you so much Aon um appreciate that

That was fun so we had less at first we had Aon second and I think we’re going to have one more joining us to end Today’s Show so last guest of the day here I want to do a quick reset this is Sports Talk Chicago I’m John Z glore

John Meadows is directing producing and contributing so we had Les we had Aaron we have fans joining us right here on the stream on camera it’s so much fun as Aaron said um yeah Oh e h r o n yep thank you Aaron and John it’s always a

Pleasure yes it is my friend and Les of course great to see you I know Les joined us there earlier we’re going to have one more one more coming on with us and I know he’s ready now now he said he said in the email s the email that he

Promised he’s going to be good so got to make sure hopefully hopefully he’ll be good um I think he will and I’m looking forward to having him on I have a question for him as well that may be a little bit off uh off topic but I do

Want to ask him that too so we’ll wait for him to hop on in we sent him the link he emailed us about 10 minutes ago so looks like he’s going to be hopping in momentarily and he’s here so let’s let’s bring him up in this is the ghost

Of Judah tribe yes sir what’s hanging out here with us what is going on what’s up John what’s up what’s up man what it’s good to see you it’s good to see you man it is so good to see you uh you know everybody that come to my channel

We know like you and schle Daddy people to have a voice for for a reason man because obviously my channel you know we Bash Justin fields in my channel but it was good it it it’s just good to see somebody who has a dog on brain in this

Fan base and it was good it’s always good to come to your channel and see that it it was good to see that and and I really enjoy uh your channel enjoy your voice man you got a unique voice too by the way but uh but man I really

Man I appreciate you man just uh not just catering just caving in to the to the populace to to the popular thing you know I have a thing on my channel where where we call some people are fan based Justice sexual and stuff but I I appreciate you man yeah seriously like

Like it’s real talk man I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart just for keeping it real and and and just having brain cells in your brain to see what’s going on with this fan base right now well hey you know I I really

Appreciate that I appreciate the kind words and you know hey I do my best here right you know I’m not perfect either I get them but but I appreciate those comments um you know I got a I got a off topic question I’m going to ask you that

At the end but first of all let me let me get you the floor here and let you speak what’s on your mind about this whole really about anything but I’m assuming it’s going to be a Justin Fields thing you could go ahead well uh little hot take for you uh Patrick

Mahomes dad just got arrested for D DWI see so just just thought you might want to see that man I saw that this morning and also man the whole thing with guie going to the Raiders the Raiders seeing you know they look you know the Bears fans look at his film and

See what he did last year and guess he getting the job by the Raiders he went to that interview aced that interview job and be like I’m sure he got inside that whoever he interviewing with the GM whatever he was saying I’m sure they asked him well what about Justin Fields

Blah blah blah so they look past that because I’ll guarantee you man Justin Fields didn’t know that whole Playbook man he know he know like a third of that Playbook they had to dumb The Playbook down for his dumb self and that’s why you know every dog on hot cheick looked

Like a screen pass all the time because he didn’t know it that’s why Tyson be went to the line audibling pre- snap reads and things like that because Tyson Bean went to shepher University in an offseason and had somebody with a megaphone calling out the plays and he

Learned the Playbook so that’s why he looked so efficient when he came to the line of scrimmage because he knew what he was doing and the first guy that you had on he was talking about uh Justin Fields looking scared and everything yeah cuz CU he did he didn’t know what

To do Quay Walker told you how to beat uh Justin Fields whether you’re in a zone or a man told you how to beat that trash can man I would be so happy it’s gonna be a Trail of Tears John a Trail of Tears when Justin Fields is off this

Team and it’s gonna be an epic video show up and all these Bears friends Bears F crying and whipping and nasty and hot and nashing Up teeth and bellowing it’s going to be so fun John it’s G to be so fun I cannot wait till that day and I guarantee you we’re we’re

The minority John I’m telling you we’re like 20% of the fan base don’t want justif feels the other 80% it’s probably even less now but the other 80% they want to keep this guy who hasn’t produced a dog on thing and I don’t understand it I don’t understand it for

The life of me but you and uh select Daddy TV I appreciate you guys take on having some god dog Common Sense man and I appreciate it I appreciate it you know SL daddy is a inappropriate than me but I have to say man I’ll throw on a video

From him once in a while I’ll just start laughing right away like 10 seconds in that guy’s got me cracking up it might be it might be it might be crazy way schle daddy uh has his approach but it’s it gets the job done hey I don’t I don’t

Want to take too too much of your time John it’s just my appreciation for you but I do want to shout out some people if you don’t mind go ahead of course all right shout out to my boys Robby come up Eevee Warrior leonitis Nano CBD Neils index finger angry casual fan evil

Westside number one magga General dink pass Soo wine tasted Redbeard Pat the diabetic Gary Gwenn Eli and those all my boys on my channel man if I miss you I’m sorry but uh we really do appreciate what you do John man keep up the good work man no matter what they

Say and to some some of the guys at ttnl you know talking about they racist and stuff don’t worry about that stuff man it’s always dumb woke stuff just we want a quarterback that can win stay in the pocket look at more than one God dog Reed and find other receivers that’s

Open besides DJ Moore once’s the Ed to getting Marvin Harrison Jr we got a dumb quarterback who can only have one read who can only read one person it makes no sense anyway love you John keep up the good work man hope you get up to 100

100K more sooner than later bro talk to you later bro you got it wow that that was awesome and I think that’s a great way to end uh the ghost of lion tribe Judah dude thank you so much um I had a question for you offir I I will actually

Shoot you an email because we got your email now I’ll shoot you an email about an offir question but um wow that was fun uh three different people we we had Les in here we had Aon in here and then we had the ghost of uh Judah tribe in

Here to end us and I think that was that was really fun um what a fun show that we had here today thank you to everybody for tuning in for hopping in and I want to make this clear that this is open for everybody so we had a lot of people hop

Been here today right we had like 80 90 people at one time I’m sure the number is going to come back looking great uh if you yourself want to join us on the screen and you know have the floor talk to everybody you just got to shoot us an

Email when we’re live we’re going to put you on um so those were three great guests and a really good time shout out to John Meadows directing producing and contributing on today’s stream you can follow me all over at Sports Talk Chicago subscribe to the channel before

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