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Well let the countdown begin for super bowl sunday .
The AFC champion Kansas City Chiefs take on the NFC champion San Francisco 49ers.
Beating he 49ers would make the chiefs the first super bowl repeat winner in 20 years.

For Patrick Mahomes, he’s looking for his third super bowl title in his first six seasons.
Brock Purdy is looking for his first championship ring in just his second year in the league.

At just 44 years young, Kyle shanahan has been the head man in san francisco since 2017.
He’s led the Niners to four playoff runs, three division titles, Four NFC championship games, and now a second trip to the Super Bowl… His father Mike won a super bowl as offensive coordinator with the niners in 1994, then later won 2 as a head coach in denver.

Kickoff is set for 6:30 on CBS. Kansas city is a two-point underdog according to the wise guys in Vegas.

Kansas City general manager brett veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback l’jarius Sneed but said it would be an off-season priority to get both players under new contracts.

Last night, lots of hardware thrown around at the NFL honors ceremony…
Lamar Jackson was a near-unanimous choice for the league’s Most Valuable Player award.
Dak prescott was a distant second.

Christian McCaffery became the first forty-niner to be named offensive player of the year since Jerry Rice in 1993. McCaffrey lead the league in rushing and total yards from scrimmage.

Miles Garrett took home the Defensive Player of the Year. He’s the first Cleveland brown to ever win that award.

The Houston Texans hit the lottery with two of the first three picks in the draft and both delivered the goods.
CJ Stroud was named offensive Rookie of the year and willAndersonn the defensive Rookie of the Year.

Joe Flacco edged out damar hamlin for the leagues comeback player of the year and for the second time, kevin stefanski was the coach of the year.

The NFL hall of fame announced it’s 2024 class.
Unfortunately, willie anderson came up short.
Julius peppers, dwight freeney, devin hester, patrick willis and andre johnson are the modern-day players.
As for the senior finalists, Steve mcmichael of the Bears and former Ohio state great randy gradishar.

Speaking of the Bearcats, it’s a big-time game, with no doubt a big-time atmosphere tomorrow after at Fifth Third Arena when number five Houston comes to town.
Kelvin sampsons team has lost three games all year, all in the big 12 to iowa state, TCU and Kansas.
Uc has lost to kansas, beat TCU and will play iowa state next week.
Tipoff set for 4 o’clock tomorrow. The game can be seen on ESPN 2.

A sellout crowd is expected at the Cintas center tomorrow when X plays number 19 Creighton.
The blue jays won the first meeting in omaha 85-78, a game that was tight until the final four minutes.

My go oh hamstring up sniper take the other picture yeah I mean that’s how that’s how you can formulate opinions without having true facts I’m telling you think about it logically for just a second dear Red’s Fans welcome back to the zebra zillionaires it was a tough one yesterday Live from Chatterbox Sports Studios it’s Off the Bench with with Tom brenman good morning good morning a pleasant good Friday morning to each and every one of you we welcome you to Off the Bench presented by United Dairy

Farmers we come your way Monday through Friday 10 to 12: you can join us on YouTube Chatterbox Sports Page we broadcast live on X our good friend Elliot Elon Elon and that is at seabox sports or if you’d rather join us in podcast form by all

Means just search Off the Bench with Tom brenaman and you’re dialed in now look before we get to some sports headlines we have some big news here at Chatterbox Sports we are expanding more and more and more and with that expansion means some roles are going to start changing

Around here a little bit let’s start with this show it will continue Trace Fowler will take over though as the primary host are you ready for that Trace you do this better than me anyway I don’t do it better than you I am uh

What we call a stop Gap you know uh some would call it the Kevin Newman of the worlds where you’re just you’re you’re you’re you’re coming in well that’s no disrespect to Kevin but I’m coming in I’m just filling a void until the Ellie de Cruz and Matt mlan come next okay all

Right well now now as for me look I’m not going anywhere okay everybody’s healthy Everybody’s Fine everybody’s good I’ll be here still a couple of times a week on a podcast that we started about 3 years ago before chatter boox ever got going we’re going to bring

It back to life it’s going to be called dialed in so Monday we’ll be here you know local stuff National stuff that kind of thing and then Friday we’re going to go back to something that we wanted to do here but the schedule made it really really

Tough because if we weren’t doing it from 10:00 a.m. to noon it was hard to get that big interview lined up so we’re going to bring that back here on Chatterbox for every Friday we do a lengthy interview hopefully with some of the biggest names and the hottest Topics

In all of sports and Beyond uh I’ll have a few comments at the end of the show but um fellas here we go here we go here we go how’s everybody doing today doing good Tom doing good what’s that big big lid you got going there what is that

It’s Navar Beach your honeymoon my honeymoon yeah every time I see that hat I always think of uh Sandlot and the kid that just literally can’t throw the ball more than five feet he’s got the big the big bass hat it’s got the big long bill that’s that’s it right there well some

Say I might not know the baseball game so that might be true but sound like it you sound exactly like you know the baseball game kid became a broadcaster did become a broadcaster one of the best that ever was that’s right that’s right I’m doing good I don’t know

If that question was at me but I’m doing it was I’m wondering how you’re doing today we always ask we go around the horn how everybody’s doing today all around the room I’m I’m doing good uh uh you know we we I had bowling last night

I went bowling uh I’m a really bad bowler but you know it’s fun it’s fun to be there in the presence of the pins and the balls and such uh so yeah I I woke up this morning with with a great positive attitude One Last Ride you’re Rolling Stones last night I haven’t

Rolling Stones in a while but I’m doing great as well I have a qu like if talking about the sand lot here that kid comes up grows up to be the broadcaster of the Los Angeles Dodgers that’s right so in the sand lot Universe Vin Scully does not exist that’s what we’re saying

That’s what you’re saying terrible movie then what a bad movie then I don’t want to be I don’t want to be a part of a world where Vin Scully doesn’t exist there’s no doubt and my dad made the comment the other day on this show that

They ought to name the Ford Frick award change that to the Vin Scully award completely agree for the broadcast wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame uh we got lots to talk about today and let’s get right down to it the countdown Begins for the Super Bowl that’s his Sunday the

AFC Champion Kansas City Chiefs take on the NFC champion San Francisco 49ers beating the ners would make the Chiefs the first Super Super Bowl repeat winner in 20 years for Patrick momes he’s looking for his third Super Bowl title in his first six seasons Brock pie last

Guy taken in the draft all Reed does is kill the guy ultimate Underdog is looking for his first championship ring in this just his second season in the league at 44 years young Kyle Shanahan has been the headman in San Francisco hard to believe is it since 2006 17 that

Is wild that is really hard to believe he’s led the ners to four playoff runs three division titles four NFC championship games and now a second trip to the Super Bowl but he has not won it yet his father Mike won a Super Bowl as an offensive coordinator with the Niners

In 94 under George sefor then later one to his head coach in Denver kickoff set for 6:30 on CBS Kansas City at last check is this change two-point Underdog from the wise guys in Vegas two point Underdog two point Underdog I I just I I’m I’m shocked

We’ll get into that in a little bit uh Kansas City general manager Brett V said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in resigning both defensive tackle Chris Jones and standout quarterback lerus sne but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new

Contracts lots of Hardware thrown around last night at the NFL honors ceremony Lamar Jackson was a year near unanimous choice for the League’s Most Valuable Player I was a little surprised Dak Prescott finished in second did he I didn’t know that I know I knew that Josh Allen was the only

Other person to get a first place vote he kept uh Lamar Jackson from becoming a two-time unanimous MVP but yeah that is surprising that D PR finish I couldn’t believe it unless I misread it I’m pretty sure that’s right double check that if you don’t mind uh Christian mcaffrey

Became the first 49er to be named offensive player of the year since Jerry Rice back in 93 mcaffrey led the league in rushing and total yards from scrimmage miles Garrett took home the defensive player of the year award he’s the first Cleveland Brown to ever win it

The Houston Texans hit the lottery with two of their three picks last year remember they had the first and what third pick in the draft or second and third forgive me picks in the draft and both deliver the goods C J stad was named offensive rookie of the year will

Anderson named the Defensive Rookie of the Year Joe flacko edged out Demar Hamlin for the League’s comeback Player of the Year award for the second time by the way Kevin stansky was named the NFL’s coach of the year here’s a big night for the brownies and hell they

Didn’t even win a playoff game the AFC North cleaned up Tom you’re not lying they certainly did I mean you got the coach of the year defensive player of the year year comeback player comeback Player of the Year MVP yeah oh that’s right yeah I’m drawing a blank there I was just

Thinking Cleveland alone one those first three yep uh the NFL Hall of Fame announced his 2024 class last night unfortunately Willie Anderson former Bengals great came up short he’ll get there one day Julius Peppers Dwight fi Devin Hester Patrick Willis and Andre Johnson are all modernday players going in as for the

Senior finalists the long wait is over for Steve McMichael he’s dying right now of ALS former Bears great defensive lineman and boy you talk about a great one former Ohio State linebacker Randy gradishar is going to the Hall of Fame congratulations to all college football Wisconsin coach Luke fickle said

Yesterday he’s hoping to have his best friend and former teammate Mike Vel around for as much as possible with the Wisconsin Badgers in an informal role this season fickle went seven- six his first year in Madison of course he took UC to the college football playoff in

2020 speaking of the Bearcats Big Time game tomorrow in college hoops and I mean the joint will be rocking at Fifth Third Arena number five Houston comes to town Kelvin Samson’s team has lost three games all year and all three are in the conference against Iowa State TC and

Kansas UC has lost to Kansas beat TCU and will play Iowa State next week tip off set for four o00 the game can be seen not on ESPN plus how about that for a change thank God actually on cable actually on television ESPN 2 there we

Go the ESPN 2 not the big not the Mother Ship but we’re close sellout crowd expected at the Cintas Center tomorrow X plays number 19 kraton the Blue Jays won the first meeting in Omaha 8578 but that game went right down to the final 3 minutes of the game before kraton pulled

It out the muskies they must improve their shooting from that first game they shot 40% from the field 33% from three other notable games over the weekend including number 17 Kentucky against unranked Gonzaga this is a huge game for Gonzaga KY is going to be in the tournament they’re playing for a seed

But for Gonzaga they are trying to get in of the tournament Ohio State home to Maryland they’re going nowhere number 13 Baylor travels to number four Kansas and tonight number 18 Dayton goes to Richmond to face VCU they will play twice in the final eight games of the

Season much like UC and Houston will play twice in the last eight games of the Season not not so sure you want to be facing Houston twice no please not Tom if Gonzaga doesn’t make make the tournament it’ll be the first time since 1998 whoa that they haven’t made the TN

Yep yeah I mean that is uh you know we were talking about them a little bit yesterday and look I know a lot of people don’t care about Gonzaga around here but but they have been they have been the monster of the tournament for the last 20 years they go every year

They they go deep they never get bounced early ever they made the sweet 16 and each of they haven’t missed the sweet 16 since 2014 think about that the sweet 16 a decade of making the sweet 16 yeah and they’ve been of course to a number of

Final fours how many of those they’ve been to two final fours and both times they went to the final four they went to the championship game yes they lost once to North Carolina and I can’t remember who the oh the other one was the incredible game um who was it back in

2021 anyone know that one off the top of their head that wasn’t Baylor might have been Baylor what’s crazy about Gonzaga is is so the first time they ever made the NCAA tournament was 19 1995 the second time they made it was 1999 they haven’t missed the tournament

Since you know it’s funny I was there when uh they reached the regional final so they got to the Elite 8 and they played that western region out there in Phoenix so we went to the game okay I you know when you get to those Regional

Finals um you know you got teams coming from everywhere and so you know it’s not like it’s a home game for anybody but I I’ve not had a chance to go to a lot of NCAA tournament games uh through the the years and I remember just going to that

Game and I had never seen anything like that in my life on just some neutral Court middle of Phoenix here’s a school nobody’s ever heard of ever and their fan base and plus everybody who had no skin in the game they were rooting for Gonzaga it was unbelievable and they won

That game to go to the final four I I’m I’m sorry I’m enamored with this right now Mark FW was uh became the head coach in 1999 so he’s never missed the tournament either ever since he’s been the head coach they’ve been a wagon it’s incredible man man want to thank

Everybody for all of this stuff some of you thinking that I’m going to run for the Democratic uh Presidential nominee I don’t think that’s in the cards boys I think you I would be your VP I think that would be good I think that would be great I think that would

Be good yeah do you think you can get the Democratic nomination I would have a very hard time getting that nomin have a hard time getting a nomination to be the Marmont fireman fire chief yeah but um no we’ve had some great comments here uh somebody said I was going to leave here

And go to um become uh what what I say Brian Kelly’s what scaffolding GNA sell scaffolding to Brian Kelly scaffolding right right right right right right right some of you saying I’m going to outkick uh no that’s not happening either we’re not going anywhere we’re just mixing it up

We’re trying to to get better and better um around here with everything that we’re doing and um and again we’ll have some comments a little bit later on but uh this is not a situation where everybody’s going in my dad’s going to be on the show I’ll still come on the

Show we’re just mixing things up a little bit and it’s like a a new a new sort of uh Born Again sort of attitude around here today I can feel it already you feel it Casey or no or am I just making us up yeah I mean there’s there’s

New exciting things coming a chatter box it’s just in the works how about you trace yeah like I said I mean it’s an opportunity for us to do do something that’s uh that’s different and I think ultimately it gives you the flexibility and and allows you to do

Some things that you’re that you’re trying to accomplish and do that ultimately you can’t really share publicly but you know the one thing that I do find funny at times is that uh when we when we first brought on Tom there was a lot of people that said all that

You know well good luck this that in the know nature this that’s the end of chatter boox as we know it and then tom leaves the show today it’s like the same thing so it’s just funny that that’s uh sometimes the Rumblings that are that

Are in the world I’m not uh worried at all there are some things that are really cool that we can’t announce until uh probably mid-march and then there’s some things that I’m going after um that honestly would probably shock everybody and not just around here but the entire

City if it happens and again it’s it’s I’m confident i’ I’ve always been confident in my ability to be able to try to do something that other people think that you can’t do which is why Chatterbox exists and um it’s somewhat of a unicorn I mean I don’t know how

Many chatter boxes there are that are actually in the in this country uh local content that’s not really powered by any uh what I would call Legacy Media arm we’re not we’re not um you know we’re just not traditional media and obviously that comes with us having to be Nimble

And quick and uh that’s what we’re trying to do and be and ultimately like I said I’ll do the best I can the good news is if you’ve watched any of my shows before and you thought that they were relatively semide decent I just got

To be honest with you I was I was just half H I’m not going to cuss half tailing those shows okay there’s a lot going on I’ve not ever really tried I promise I’m going to try I’m actually going to give it my full effort going

Forward in regards to to hosting a show um and obviously chatter box dreads doesn’t change either but but U but I’m excited about it I’m happy for you uh to get to be able to do some things that you know ultimately you wouldn’t be able

To do if you did a show here every single day from 10 a to 12p but we are still working hand in hand that’s the bottom line that’s right still here still we’re still here not going anywhere people had you dead Tom they thought you were gone there’s so much

Speculation in our Discord chat I mean they they thought you were just leaving the country they thought you were gone well that might be next not today not today right not that day is not today yeah a couple people I appreciate you know thinking maybe something was wrong out of surgery again

Whatever no nothing nothing nothing like that no no no no mop saying to dissolve the company what are your thoughts on that Trace dissolve the company dissolve it um you know Mouse cop uh he’s only really ever been right about one thing over me and that is that I didn’t think

That Xavier had any chance to beat UC and it turns out that UC is just as bad as Xavier so I was wrong about I was wrong about all of it I’m just hopeful that this city could get two teams in the tournament that would be good for the

City but we’ll find out I don’t know they’re both going to be on the bubble you know what they should do Tom the NCAA they they have their hand up all these different ways to make money one way in which I know would be a really

Wise business decision is if you see an Xavier are someone on the bubble let’s just throw them together in Dayton let’s just first unb put him right there in Dayton let’s just do it and they don’t have to play each other you go to a double dip put

Them on the same night that’s it right CU they have two nights of it that’s what they’ll do they won’t play each other but they’ll both be up there they’re just’re they’re going to make sure they fill out those sessions they’re going to play oppos they they

Couldn’t play on the same night cuz how they do it is the 11 they play on the opposite nights yeah they would play on opposite nights I say play them together let’s let’s just make them play again but see all those Xavier the Xavier fans they look down their nose we got into

This topic a week ago when I made the suggestion that they do did you read some of the comments on our ex when we sent this out and I made the comment I said Dayton should be in the Big East playing basketball and they’re like nobody cares about the Dayton Market in

Dayton nobody cares about Xavier they sell out every game they got arguably the best arena in the country you mean to tell me that that that Xavier is going to look down their nose at Dayton like uh that’s a a small Market we don’t want to any part of

Them Dayton is a far better team for the Big East than than depal well that’s that’s the thing I mean you can say they’re in Chicago but nobody gives a you know what in Chicago right the reason the Paul’s in is because they wanted to they wanted the Chicago Market

The reason that Dayton won’t get in is because uh Xavier and Dayton share the same Market the the Cincinnati dat metropolitan area but there isn’t a there isn’t a team in the country that fits the Big East mold more than the Dayton Flyers you’re right Catholic School basketball almost

Exclusive School beautiful arena in the midwest like a lot of people like Gonzaga joining the Big East that would be fantastic too but they’re all the way out west talking about teams from the Midwest uh basketball great Arena great fan base it makes sense but uh for some

Reason it just will never come to be Xavier will push against that if if Dayton tries to get in Xavier won’t let it out see but that’s what I don’t understand and maybe there’s somebody out there that can explain it to me and I I’d listen reasonably oh okay I get

It if Dayton is in the Big East basketball I mean the the the TV numbers from their Market you say it’s a small Market but everybody in his brother is going to be watching that game every Big East game they sell out every single game their success has zero

Impact on Xavier Xavier has built this incredible program where they’ve had one coach after the next one team after the next NCAA tournament virtually every year until the you know bump in the road about three four years ago and now that’s getting all straightened out because they brought back one of the

Best coaches in the country I don’t I mean it’s like I don’t know if there’s something if there’s a jealousy thing here there’s nothing to be jealous about Xavier’s record and its reputation and what it has built its Pro program stands on its own with anybody and I when I say

Anybody I mean anybody are they the brand of North Carolina or Duke or Kentuck no they’re not but they have built an incredible brand that is enormously successful and I just can’t understand how Dayton being in the Big East hurts anybody I don’t get it Tom do you think

That the um the TV ratings that the conference themselves would gain by having a a depal is there any chance and maybe I’m naive here and I’m that’s why I’m asking you is is there is there a chance you could get that money back if you get a team in

The tournament an extra team in the tournament you get paid as a league for how how many wins you receive in the tournament now obviously Dayton you could say maybe that’s not the best example because how many wins have they had in the NCAA tournament but they were

The number one team in the country as I think many of us may remember the year in which they canceled the tournament so you could make the case that Dayton all although they might you know be lacking in the TV ratings Department I don’t really know how many date dep Paul’s

Pulling anyway in Chicago does it is it just the market or is it actually the people that are watching in the market but see that that’s what I’ve always been curious about I mean because you know when you start doing the ratings game obviously it it is very different

What a number does in New York because of the population base as opposed to what you know that number would be in a a town like City like Dayton I mean you don’t I I guarant gue you of the of the total number of televisions in Chicago okay and there are millions of

Them I guarantee you to Paul basketball is not even doing a one rating not even close zero point something I know they’ve been historically bad over the past decade really over the past 15 years but I mean do you watch the game have you ever seen the depal game at wi

Trust Arena there’s like 300 people like nobody there only as a basketball conference do you want that even though you’re in Chicago I don’t know what kind of dividend Chicago’s Market is uh is a positive impact on the Big East if nobody in the Chicago Market cares in Dayton they

Care are we down it certainly feels like we’re down I think we’re down oh NOP we’re good we’re good we’re back we’re back we’re back okay we’re back what do you know hey by the way good our friends from Spectrum are trying to run my ass

Out of here not even ready to go yet Tom I got the best news maybe of the day you ready for it I’ve been me free ad alert free ad alert meaning the free ad alert Ulta fiber is being installed on Monday well of course it is you let me

Slept through this the last 19 months and then all of a sudden it’s time for me to hit the trail and now here comes all the ammunition I’m like Ukraine oh you know I got I got to beg plead and ask for a little bit of and

Now all of a sudden here we come the United States roll in everything you want 200 billion I’ll give us we got ala fiber we got live ammunition out in the parking lot we got it all have live ammunition out in the parking lot if we

Need it I make that very clear I don’t know why that’s such a big deal it’s just a city uh practicing their constitutional rights is tired what do you mean it’s tired there’s no it’s not tired what’s tired is the poor the poor citizens of Hamilton Ohio getting struck

By bullets every time they walk outside of their homes that’s what’s that’s what’s tired the potential I want to see a cover band of Nirvana down here at the park and all of a sudden bang hitting the shoulder with a bullet how am I how what am I supposed to do with

That I’m not going to do that today I didn’t I have really enjoyed I have really enjoyed the people I have met here in uh in in Hamilton whether it’s the ladies over here uh or or some of the guys that are down in their luck

Coming coming in and out over here at the gas station around the corner I think it’s a marathon I never really look at the sign but I stop in there every day and the ladies who unfortunately the lady who was the primary manager she just left to go to

Another place a little closer to home so I miss her but uh heck no I’m not going to do it today you were Elite at knowing the uh the the pecking the pecking order at gas stations of who the managers are you’re the UDF man you’re like I know Lindsay she’s doing

This and Jake going that know all I do I know them all the guys you know sometimes I stop at at this I always stop at the UDF there in Milford when I’m on my way out the door from home getting ready to jump on the highway so

I know Mary and I know Zach they’re in there you know 5A every day I walk in Zach Mary how we doing Tom what’s happening everything’s good how about that well and then and then the guys down here at the other UDF down off the Middletown exit I think it is or

Springdale or something and uh same crew in there and and I’ve befriended a couple of guys that are bus drivers uh for the Lakota School District gotten to know them very well two guys and and a gal uh I told the guy this morning I’m like look you know my schedule’s

Changing up a little bit and um so we swap phone numbers just to check in every now and again he’s an old retired railroad guy great dude and uh loves sports he had no idea until two days ago what I used to do for a living really

Really he had no idea and uh he had said to me two days ago he said you know I thought he was told by another bus driver who apparently knew what I you know did for a living used to do whatever and um and she told

Him that that would have been Tuesday of this week so Wednesday I show up and I go in there and get the cup of coffee go outside shoot the shoot the breeze with my man as he’s getting ready to get in the bus and go pick up kids and

Everything and and uh he said he said ‘I so embarrassed I said about what he said I didn’t I had no idea what you used to do for a living I mean I know who you are but I don’t know who you are I’m like what’ you think I

Did I said come on what’ you think I did he said I thought for sure you were ex-military for sure xit see X military what’s that you see exmilitary he says for sure exmilitary tight haircut and he says uh and and and I thought you probably just sold like uh you know Plumbing

Equipment like Plumbing equipment he said yeah that’s what the guy says to me right and so this morning as I’m seeing him you know I won’t be seeing him every day here moving forward but I’ll still see him when I’m coming in on Mondays and Wednesday or Thursday

Whatever we work out um is that he says to me he says hey by the way I got a good buddy that owns a plumbing company if you need a plumbing company sales job there you go there we go what the hell is so funny Tom’s the plumber I just I just

Wondering how you drew out of a hat of all the things that you come up with someone possibly do my man’s a littley now maybe salesman would have been like the right thing in my mind salesman this guy you look like a Salesman no he he

Went straight he look like he he said a sales for plumbing equip I know he went directly to Plumbing equipment I don’t know where he got Plumbing equipment out of what you look like that’s interesting ett says or rather George Santos our good friend said he thought I sold Avon and

Tupperware Nick Kirby says says on the toilet with Tom brenman debuting Monday Mark say Mark Mark says you look like a guy that lays the pipe Tom you got anything to add to that no no none whatsoever and when you’re married for 23 years that’s certainly not

Apropo I didn’t say that um okay all right let’s get into uh our main man Charlie Goldsmith he has been a friend of the program we’ll continue to be a friend of the program we love Charlie maybe who knows after that Charlie is able to laugh at stuff like

That I mean I’ve seen him in certain settings where you know we keep him a little bit sort of you know on the straight and narrow path here but Charlie I mean you know you you can yuck it up with the best of them so you got no problem with this kind of

Conversation right yeah but I’m not saying what I think you look like yeah this could be nothing would be negative not that it would be negative but I’m not playing this game okay well my main man did out at UDF uh the the bus driver here uh in

Lakota School District so uh you know I was very very happy that he thought I was exmilitary I I probably should have been because things might be a little bit different than they are now um all right let’s let’s Circle any surprises to you um I don’t know if you watched it

Paid attention to it whatever it was but any surprises to you about all the awards that were given away last night yeah I mean the big one’s dear Hamlin you know a criteria I have for the award for any award is is when the guy who ends up winning it says he shouldn’t

Have won it you know he said Joe Flaco said in like November I shouldn’t become back Player of the Year all I came back from was being old you know Demar Hamlin obviously came back from a lot more than that so that’s the one the scks out but

Lamar was obvious CJ strad could have made the case for nakua Will Anderson made a lot of sense I was all in on Miles Garrett winning defensive player of the year so you know pretty good award show all right all right um you know Kevin stefansky I I thought all

Along was going to be the coach of the year of course you know it it you know you only remember what what happened lately and that was getting bounced and bounced bad in the opening round of the playoffs let’s shift gears over to uh the Bengals so they have and

You and I have talked about this they have until I think it’s February the 22nd correct me if I’m wrong to start dealing with franchise tags and things like that um are are you hearing anything I mean most of us assume they’re going to tag Higgins they’re

Going to keep him and keep the band together for one more more year are you hearing anything contrary to that yeah nothing to report right now but you know it’d be malpractice if they didn’t give T Higgins the franchise tag just to continue and push forward the the

Extension in the negotiation process and that’s the key word negotiation like the only steps that are going to take place between now and free agency are the Bengals and Higgins will check in hey where you at on this number hey where you at on this number and both sides

Have their sticking points have their ground that they’d like to stand and this is the same as it was with Jesse debates the same as it was with every contract extension negotiation and franchise history and then I think the real deadline for me Isn’t the franchise tag deadline because I see that as

Pretty inevitable the real deadline is the start of free agency because either you have Higgins like tagged under you have Higgins earmark that franchise tag money under that contract and you can’t spend that into free agency or you have Higgins not under contract at that point

You get a trade done by something or something like that or by then or something like that and you have $20 million to spend so to me the uh the key day to watch is the startup free agency because that’s when they know whether or not they have $20 million to spend for

Higgins or $20 million to spend elsewhere okay um um you know in that same sort of um vein however Charley is is you know you look at the needs that they have and all and there are many of them and we’ve addressed many of them um

At the at the end of the day do you think with all the money the Bengals have at least for this season under the salary cap do you think they go blow the doors off this whole thing and start start trying to get anything they can

Get for right now to try and win it this year the most all-in move they could make would be keeping T Higgins on the franchise tag if you want to look at like it’s actually very baseball here like teams trade in baseball players with a year or two left on their deal to

Try to spin it forward for the future if you want to play the long-term game you trade Higgins or even you extend him that would be a longer term win window if you want to play the short-term game if you keep Higgins if you have to keep Higgins just on the one-year franchise

Tag because you can’t get an extension or a trade you like done that’s when I think you have to make more aggressive win now moves specifically though there I look at the draft I look at you address less premium positions with higher picks because they would play

More snaps for you be more aggressive with POS positions like running back and tight end or do you just continue with the best player available model you know take another receiver to kind of wait the wings behind Higgins for 20 24 I think it’s still a good enough roster to

Win the Super bowl next year so especially if you have Higgins on the tag I’d look at more aggressive um situation or more aggressive moves through the draft also like splurging kind of going Allin with your remaining free agency capital on a really good pass rushing defensive tackle I like to

Name Christian Wilkins a lot you know again he’s not a guy his best year will probably be 2024 so that’s probably more of an all-in move as well I do like that approach if the way the the Higgins conversations go dictate you go that way okay um what were your thoughts uh you

Know I mean your thoughts about the changes in the coaching staff not necessarily that Brian Callahan left and not necessarily that uh pitcher takes his place but now the moves that just happened the last couple of days yeah one of the sneaky things that I was kind of concerned about with Bengals was

Something Brian Callahan does incredibly well like one of his gifts as a coach he’s great at developing a plan against the Blitz and he’s great at when you drop a play on the Whiteboard you know how does that mesh with the pass protection plan with the linemen the

Running backs and the tight ends Callahan was you that was his thing that was his baby with the team how do you replace that you know pitcher has less experience with that Zack Taylor had less experience with that than Callahan so what do you do what type of guy do

You want to bring in to replace that to fill that void to fill that role in the game plans well how about a guy who is a former quarterback who coached offensive lineman last year and that’s new pass and game coordinator Justin riscotti um I would expect he filled that specific

Role from a game planning perspective Ive they changed the structure of the coaching staff to add a guy with that skill set they widen their overall offensive coaching staff pipeline by adding a guy who you know if pitcher a head coach next year can slide in and

Slide up along with Brad korp you have more of those more of those quarterback voices in the building which is very helpful you know the the NFL’s always been a huge copycat league and and all you have to do is follow the last decade maybe more than that may maybe a lot

Longer than that but certainly you know the last decade or so about you know what successful for a team you know you you you look at let’s say the Patriots in all those years I mean they they they had a year or two there with Randy Moss

Where he was off the charts but he was the only big- time wide receiver Edelman was a different kind of a player he wasn’t a game breaker but a great player Hall of Fame player without a doubt uh but they had gronowski and all of a

Sudden you look at this year right even the last couple of years in teams that played in the championship game you get the 49ers who have a great tight end yeah they have one great receiver the rest of the guys are okay they can have

A good game but you know so every now and again iuk can those guys the same thing holds true uh when it comes to Kansas City they got Kelsey uh for a while there they had Tyreek Hill and now they’ve got some guys you know that that

That that are okay they’re not Chase they’re not Higgins do you think that the Bengals look at that and say man maybe we ought to reconsider how we’re structuring this offense and the importance where this offense should be we have the great quarterback we have one great wide

Receiver do all of a sudden should they really go all in on a big time tight end they’ve already considered this like there’s a scenario where the 2023 Bengals feature dton can Kade or Sam lepto if the draft goes a different way like the Bengals are interested have

Explored have looked at the opportunity of adding a real you know quality tight end to their offense for a while it just hasn’t worked out based on you know not many tight ends you know who have other options would want to sign up to be the fourth wide receiver on a Bengals team

That’s what it would have been in 2021 and 2022 when they had the big three and then you know this year it’s a different scenario with Tyler Boyd now gone and like I’ve said before they could replace a lot of that production with the tight end now tight end versus receiver to

Them it matters less kind of like they don’t necessarily view it that way to them it’s like pass catcher number three could be a tight end could be a receiver gives you some flexibility I think the the common denominator between those teams you mentioned is they have Elite

Pass catchers and on these teams the Elite pass catchers happen to be tight ends but I don’t necessarily think it’s more valuable to have a a tight end who’s great just because he’s a tight end compared to any other pass catching weapon that you could add into the mix

So the Bengals are looking to add pass catching weapons this off season tight ends are certainly a path they could aggressively go to make that happen but if you know the board shaks out a certain way and their third pass catcher happens to be you know the best route to

Get that guy as a receiver through their drafter for agency and then you backfill at tight end like you have in previous years you know that’s kind of what happened last year could happen the same thing in 2024 again I think the common denominator is having great weapons not

Necessarily a great tiek okay all right uh let’s shift gears to the Reds I’d imagine you’ll be making your way out to Arizona sometime here soon walk me through uh with all of the positioned players the Reds have and we we’ve discuss this at length especially in the

Infield uh you throw in the DH you’ve got five spots for anywhere from six to seven guys on a regular basis right okay so guys get a day off then you you you roll through the next group roll through the next group etc etc um they bring in

Josh Harrison who’s had a really good career and he’s a local kid it’s great story whole nine yards did is he fighting just to make the team or do you think that that you know I mean maybe you know what they’ve told him I don’t know what they’ve told him or do you

Think that he’s got to go out and earn it I haven’t had specific conversations but I have a sense of of where they stand like I know they wanted to add a player like Josh Harrison all offseason look at the biggest like or look at the organizational depth chart not just the

26-man roster all right you have all these infielders at the major league level but the Louisville Bats infield was pretty bad you know before last week and if one guy gets hurt the next guy who’d get called up would be Mark Maas Eric Gonzalez Alex McGary Tyler Callahan

Like this wasn’t something an area of the dep je chart threads were about now if you know infielder X gets hurt pulls a hamstring and you need to call someone up if that happens during spring training and you need to got to make the opening day roster you know that’s Josh

Harrison for you and you know he’s a guy who was an above average bench player in 2021 and 2022 he’s a really good guy to have that role on the depth chart especially because guys do get hurt during spring training and he could end up fighting his way into the mix but if

Everyone does stay healthy I think they have 12 locks you know we all know who they are the infielders the outfielders Ellie Marte all those guys and then Luke mey and then that leaves one spot and they need a backup center fielder not to platoon with fredle

Because I think he’ll play most days but to be able to spell TJ frel now and then because they haven’t shown a lot of confidence in will Benson being able to play center field consistently so the guy you know you look at then Stuart Fairchild and Jose barrero to me they’re

The ones competing for the 26 roster spot unless like Jacob heres knocks the door down during Camp he’s another center fielder it has to be a backup center fielder who gets that final spot Harrison doesn’t play C field but he is a nice guy to have okay um the the last

Thing I wanted to ask you about and and I want you to help me here because I you know I I listen to uh a lot of Sports Talk Radio local shows National shows all this kind of thing and and have tremendous respect for the guys like you

And many others who you know spring training starts and the hours you’re putting in all this kind I mean I’m having a hard time Charlie understanding this and I’ve talked about this all the time on the show probably to the point where people are tired of

It but you know I I sit there and as much hope and as much optimism as there is about the Reds and and I keep coming back to the starting pitching and specifically not how talented these guys are because look across the board I mean who wouldn’t want to have the depth that

They have you’re talking about guys like louder and Brandon Williamson and guys like this that that may not even be on the well louder for sure but guys that won’t even be in the big league starting rotation okay but I still keep coming back and people keep telling me well

Their depth is better their depth is better depth is better that’s fine you can reach down to louder in August or whatever it might be I still think that if the reds are going to continue to play by the set of rules that virtually every single team in baseball plays

Under and that is you’re only going to go from one year to the next where you increase the number of innings pitched by roughly 10 to 15% of the guy from his prior year okay I just sit here and I I I I mean I do the math and it’s Ohio

University math so I’m not very good at it but I do the math and I say to myself look their Bullpen might be better but we know the starters got to be a lot better than last year and I sit here and I look at this thing and I’m

Like if you hunter green nick ldo uh Graham Ashcraft Andrew Abbott you know those guys even Nick Martinez if you want to throw him in there because he’s been a reliever and a spot starter I don’t think any of these guys are going to be asked to throw more than 160 170

180 Innings next year and if that’s true if that’s true then that means they have to find other guys to start games in August and September or decide we’re going to blow by that old Tom verduchi sort of thing where we’re only increasing 10 or 15% of the year I I

Mean am I nuts continuing to think about this somewhere there is a you know string board where Derrick Johnson is trying to piece together however you know nine times 100 62 innings for the course of the season this is the story this is story of the Season how they

Plan for this there are things they’re going to do um one guys will get hurt and then they’ll come back and that’s the situation so you’ll preserve some Innings that way you know for guys who won’t be able to go 200 over the course of the season the guys who don’t make

The team I’ve been told they’re considering a six-man rotation in Louisville and I’ve been told they’re considering having kind of innings and Pitch limits that are more aggressive in Louisville to try to keep the guys who aren’t at the big league level say Brandon Williamson or Conor Phillips if

They don’t make the team fresher for the stretch run I would say there just aren’t too many guys in baseball right now who are going 190 plus Innings over the course of the season now would the Reds like to have one of them yes there’s a reason they were very very

Aggressively pursuing Sunny gray and a reason they were very very seriously looking at the trade market over the course of the offseason the Reds know this the Reds would like to address this they didn’t their plan B was kind of building it through depth they do have

The best pitching depth in the division so that should help but overall how’s it going to piece out like that’s a question there’s also like the Andrew Abbott of it which which was he wasn’t supposed to pitch as many innings as he did last year and he kept pushing

Because they didn’t have any more options so it’s not like they’re going to cut guys off if they’re still contributing and there’s still enough in the tank compared to you know option number B is the Reds do have more options also a thing they did specifically was they have more long

Guys in the bullpen sudor Martinez you see one of the starters move to the bullpen over the course of the Season Fernando Cruz can go multiple Innings there’s another guy I’m forget that can go multip Sam Maul can do it like they have a bunch of guys who can do that so

They feel they have a lot of innings they don’t have 180 in and guy that’s that’s a problem but that’s baseball in 2024 for a team that’s not going to be able to address all of its you know flaws but being a a small Market Team

All right uh Charlie we can’t thank you enough for your time today and uh uh all the time for your time so uh safe travels out there is anybody have anything for Charlie before we let our main man go here come on Elliot you got something you got something for Charlie

Charlie I’m s I’m sorry I have to keep you on but I’m going to I’m going to do one for you I’m going to I’m going to ask you a question I we talked about a little bit yesterday on the show there are still a ton of insanely talented free agents available

On on the market I know I know Nick crawl said we’re done with it I know I know he said it but is there a chance and I know we’re loaded in pretty much every position really is there a chance we go out and sign any maybe like a

Michael Taylor can we get a Michael Taylor in here if again if if nobody signs him up until the season Michael Taylor it’s funny like in November when I was putting my free agency Big Board together I like highlight it and bold names Michael Taylor was highlighted and

Bolded as a guy viewed as a perfect fit for the Reds now there is a long track record of when Nick CW says they’re done publicly and privately they’re pretty much done and so that’s the sense I get this is a team with a payroll and you know that’s the situation that they’re

In that’s different from the Dodgers of the Cubs or or other teams like that so I would bet no but yeah guy like that I mean that’s the one spot you know we’re looking at Stuart Fairchild and Barrera competing to the 26 spot now that’s part

Of it too would Michael Taylor want to sign up for to be a guy who would play sometimes against lefties it’s not too you know a lot of free agents would probably want more than that which is why it’s not the most enviable spot for

A free agent to sign up for because of how much TJ fredle is gonna play so that’s a part of it yeah they’d like Michael Taylor but it might not be there because of payroll and because of rooll expectations that’s fair that’s fair thank you Charlie okay anybody else Reed

Trace case no Drew sample questions today so no Drew sample questions okay gentlemen we good Charlie thank you my friend have a great weekend you too I’m jealous of Charlie he’s going to be out there in that Arizona Sunshine oh yeah although I tell you here we are another

Day beautiful Hamilton Ohio nothing but Sun 52 degrees as I’m getting in the car this morning it’s beautiful out stunning Sun’s always shining here in always sh when is the next big what is the next big before we get to sports and we we’ll talk a lot of sports to last hour this

Ought to be good no I want to I want to ask because we never got into and I know we don’t want to give away the story or the the final outcome necessarily but we never discussed with me in here maybe you guys did on Tuesday

Or Thursday when I wasn’t here but how did the tennis match go without giving us too much because that’s not Premier yet too much I’ll I’ll say this I’ll say that we did talk about it a little bit but I I will say this Trace was much

Better than I anticipated he was much better than than I anticipated and I I think it was a fair fight I think it was a good match good clean family fun and yeah really good clean family fun good clean Family Fun nobody misbehaved Reed was the ball boy of the

Match was a fantastic I could see that yeah so yeah I thought I thought it went without spoiling I thought it was competitive and that will debut next week Trace what were your thoughts on I you you never played tennis no right and so you know you had played like five

Hours to pickup basketball apparently on Saturday that was a that was the biggest mistake that I had made I feel great about my performance that was that the first time you’ve ever been on a tennis court yeah can I ask you something it’s not the first time I’ve ever been on a

Tennis court recently cuz I yeah I want to say I want to there’s some rumors swirling around that maybe that maybe you got some extra training for that match ahead of time and I cuz you you told me the day of that that was your very first time playing a real match you

Haven’t practiced yet % the first match that I’ve ever played okay and you got no help leading up to it no one no I mean listen if you if you think for a second that I wasn’t going to go and at least hit a couple balls to make sure

That I wasn’t going to make a complete buffoon of myself you’d be wrong but uh as far as a guy that was all City Tennis like you um you know basically I was as green as they come and uh but I feel great about my performance Tom I don’t

Want to ruin anything okay uh it it uh it is very much a uh an uppity type sport it feels like you know there was rules there was just rules that he was there was like rules on top of rules and it was this etiquette this allow talk

Tom that’s a good question Tom you’ve watched tennis before yeah yeah I mean I’ve watched it yeah so so here’s what Trac did this is one of his big arguments I hit a ball to his side of the Court he called the ball out okay

Then he called it he hit the ball after he called it out and then said it was in and then I said the point’s over because you said it was out that’s right he wanted to keep on playing he said said you can’t and then he started then why

Did he call it out not true and then he and then he started saying well I can’t talk anymore on the court correct because if you call the ball out you have to live with your decision you can’t change your mind yeah I mean I can’t tell you how many uh tennis

Matches I’ll go to watch my wife play in a league right and the next thing you know man you’ve got these 40y old 50y old women I mean screaming at one another over this exact thing oh yeah right they call it out other guy doesn’t

Think it’s out right here we go call out out and that’s the end of story right it’s just kind of like you know if you’re going to be your own referee right in essence umpire whatever they call it tennis okay then then then that’s the way you play the game there

Was supposed to be a referee Tom and I left that up to Elliott so sure enough guess what we had no referee well the refere you would need two referees on the court so you would we would need one I thought booby was I was thought boobby was going to come

Okay where I was getting to eventually however is there going to be now a second match I think we’ve seen I don’t think he wants to do that okay what about what about um golf I’ll take my win because you know you drive around town yesterday and if you pass lcan or

You pass some of these places around town there are people out there teeing them up yesterday the plan is I golfed uh on Sunday the plan the plan is to do more golf stuff I want and this is this is up to you Tom if you’re going to

Stick around for a little bit sometime this summer I would love to face you in a golf match well I stink so I mean that wouldn’t be any great shakes I don’t know if you’ve seen me play Tom but I’m not exactly Jack Nicholas well okay I I think it would be

An entertaining match that’s fair so we we’ll schedule that up during the summer 100% also teaser we’re we’re we’re really we’re meeting with a golf course um next week to discuss um plans to to run a golf tournament and on top of that I do we’re going to do some more golf

Content whether it be Elliot and Trace breaks par I think that’s part of a part of an idea that I had but I’d like to go around the city and play other people in two man scrambles some are saying Marty and Tom versus Elliott and Trace would

Be funny that would be funny he’d be all in on that I’d love to he would be all in although I think that I think it would be the question is should my dad be on the same team as Elliot because then if your teammates

Letting you down I mean you can right as opposed to you know you’re beating them let’s just say that we took the lead and he misses a putt you you you know you’re not going to bury him right you’ll bury I think Marty might bury him I think I

Think Marty might I think Marty might bury him I think my feelings would be hurt I think there would be a point of the match probably around whole eight and Mart there would be there would be a point of no return and Marty would hurt my

Feelings but I do it anytime you want to do it I’ll do it what do you think should he be on the same team trace or not Elliot and my dad in that situation in that situation yes I think uh the other opportunity for us moving forward

Is to try to find other Personalities in the City and me and Elliot try to try to conquer them try to conquer them together yes but I think um Marty’s kind of a unique situation there where there’s a there’s a little bit of a relationship that they have built and it

Would be nice to put them on the same team because I’m sure that that would be nothing but sunshine and rainbows the entire round you teased the little golf tournament there yeah uh so now would we it would be a four Su or would be one on

Like the plan the plan is to have a a Twan scramble so basically there’s no cheating that’s the biggest thing for me there’s nothing worse than going to a tournament uh scramble they all cheat scramble and everyone cheats I’m not a big cheat guy I I like to play you know

Somewhat by the rules there and ultimately we’re going to maybe live stream um some stuff that’d be great and we can try to get some people out there that’s the goal we got to go meet with them on uh I think it’s next Tuesday I just it just popped up on my calendar

Okay uh real Spirit cat one says he’s been calling for a chatter box open since day one uh Ken since the USA says Elliot is more like Jack Nicholson than Jack Nicholas both are both no I’ll stop I listen I’ll take that compliment I tell you I like this what about a Bowling

Challenge we were talking about bowling before the show today call yeah Reed would Reed’s a good fantastic bowling I’ll do any any Tom any challenge you give me I’m going to do it no matter what and you’re a no excuses kind of guy no I’ve never made an excuse

Once in my entire life not once see when you go to these things and you know you’re doing a lot of of the video and a lot of the putting the whole thing you’re kind of like the the the the the uh Man In Charge from being able to get this on the

Air the more and more you’ve watched now Elliot participate in some of these Sports yeah right tennis golf right bowling to come from your perspective any any thoughts on what you’ve seen oo that’s a that’s a good uh I I you know Tom I think Elliott in nine years thank you if he

Could if he could just train for nine years nine years straight day in day out wake up go workout train train he could win his local high school damn all City Tennis Court Trophy whatever they they give alumni alumni yeah and and you know he could probably also win all City

Golfer too I’m unel uh unless they give me back my co year I I don’t know if I get a year for high school but we can let we can sure try it eligibility is still left got one more year hey nothing like extra eligibility that’s right all right so we

Got those are some of the things that we’re going to have make that we’re going to have happen in make happen for this upcoming spring and summer I really like the idea trace of you and me against Elliott and Marty we’d we’d wax them Tom Marty’s pretty good yeah but you gotta realize

Far as a string man you got to realize that the the the opposite player that Marty has to deal with is is one that will bring him down to the ground I think we should play it at Houston Woods this is so disrespectful Tom I will play

Anywhere you want I houon Woods Houston Woods what your mistake was that’s that’s what my wedge is ellot Elliot Trace you know you know that Tom right I have I I still don’t have I don’t still have a club I can play under 50 yards because Trace left it at a golf

Course Trace left it at the golf course oh yeah he did Tom uh to catch you up to speed here I don’t know how many of our viewers actually want to listen to this but what happened was is uh is Elliot he what we call butter knifes his wedges

Where he you know he basically throws sod right on top of the golf ball every time every time he decides to use a wedge his ball goes about six yards and his and his divot goes about eight so after the third or fourth time watching

That I grabbed that club and I stuck it in the back of a cart that was with us okay now some would like to think that you know at the end of your round you grab your bag you make sure you got your stuff and your head off right right I’ll

Take the blame that maybe I didn’t put it directly in his bag but I didn’t want him to have the chance to pull it back out of his bag again I understand you’re kind of hiding now now here’s the thing Tom this is the thing that was that was

A good word that you use there Tom he hit it from me well I remember watching the show I mean I watched it he told you don’t pull that club out again yeah this is maybe the most concerning part for the viewers and also for us in the room

Is this is that we had a big time match one in which Ellie could finally win you know he had no chance against me he thought he did but he really never had a chance he had a chance going in to play uh the bear the thear had a chance to

Beat the bear and I find out after a month between us playing uh the first match with the bear to the second match is we show up at Houston Woods we’re right in the middle of the Fairway on hole number one and Elliot looks at me and goes you left

My wedge that was a month ago Tom he has not played golf for a month showing up to a match that he could possibly finally win and I could have won it by the way that match is still tied one1 we have to finish that as well that’s

Exactly right that’s another must must Drew says rematch that is Drew says do not blame trace a man is responsible for his own clubs I agree do you know what trace’s role was in that video it was caddy that was the RO the caddy could you imagine Tiger Woods going up to the

18th green he doesn’t have a putter because his caddy threw it in the lake that would that wouldn’t be good no it wouldn’t be very good I don’t think that guy would have the job next go right I don’t think so I don’t think so want to

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Match I’m sure that that like like uh what if we did like a putt putt tournament you think we could get odds on that what do you think the odds should be do you feel confident are you a good putt putt player I would be I would destroy you in putt put it

Wouldn’t be close really you you know one thing I do give you Elliott for a guy that’s not very talented at a whole lot of athletic things you are very confident well I and that’s that is something to Marvel at I I listen I I

Think you forget that I’m All City in a sport but I were you ever All City doesn’t no doesn’t seem turns out that I played sports that other kids played in high school doesn’t seem hey I was all City doesn’t were you no Sports bol’s not giving us odds

For a pup put Match but I will beat you in pup put anytime anywhere any place so that’s that that we’ll just add that one to the ever growing list of can Elliott beat trace and I think the list right now is Trace has golf against Elliot match hasn’t been released yet

Sor little hoop thing here he thing hoop thing’s getting close if we change up the rules on that change up the rules hoop thing’s getting close oh got change the rules if we if we go if we do one shot a piece we do make it a sudden

Death format I don’t know I’m starting to like my chances uh but yeah I I don’t think a sport I I think if we talk to a sports book they would have to study us though they would have to they would have to research our games I think they have to take one

Legally is that allow like I don’t like I truly don’t understand like would that be well they wouldn’t put on their they wouldn’t put it on their own book well I feel like they could put it on their book they would just have to limit the

Amount I mean it would be it would be like a novelty thing like 20 bucks Max that you can bet what what’s your handle going to be on that no more than maybe a thousand bucks it’s more marketing than anything you know a company that was great at

Marketing I think would do something like that if it was legal to be fair to Reed’s point I and I wouldn’t see why it wouldn’t be legal I yeah I I I don’t know we’ll have to get to that be some sort of official there right correct correct because I

Think that’s part of it I listen I’m not going to get into the the weeds of uh legalized gambling but I will get into the weeds in in our super chats yeah you do that yeah nice what a transition we I don’t have that transition in my bag

We’re finally getting it oh we have a $2 Super Chat from Big C Trace is ready for another 15-hour gaming stream is that true I’m not no you’re not doing that no that was a mistake I knew that was a mistake I knew that was mistake what was

The question again I said did you cuz you correct me if I’m wrong you won in that if I’m not mistaken somewhere around uh uh 12 14500 bucks 1400 $1,00 yeah yeah I haven’t seen it yet I but I’m sure it’s coming sure it’s coming at some point at

Some point I think it should start a crewing interest I I agree I just like my uh college loans Drew Garrison with a $10 Super Chat I love you Tom I love Ulta fiber I hate Spectrum free Lindsay nice Lindsay’s here today she’s just in the other room and she’s doing great

Um then Shytown real estate with a $20 Super Chat hey says Tom before you take on a new adventure I’d cry if you joined my channel love you and everyone in Chatterbox Universe I’m in all right sell some real estate in Chicago that’s exactly right

Count me out count me out my sister can pay those taxes up there um apparently my break was brought to you by the Ohio Democratic party so says Mouse cop how about about that I tell you I I all of a sudden here a lot of friends from the

Other side of the aisle today this is like a u you know this is like uh Kumbaya around here today is there anything worse about living in Ohio than the political ads that are forced down our throat already started which is crazy it’s everywhere it’s it can’t be

Everywhere it’s only it’s got to be doesn’t happen in Alabama it happens everywhere you’ve got people trying to get to these positions of power the amounts of money now our state is bigger than most States think we’re the seventh largest in the country if I’m not mistaken something like that yeah so

There’s a lot of money here that’s being spent and it’s a year where you know in Ohio we have one of the two Senate seats that are open so it’s a big deal but um yeah yeah I mean anywhere you go I mean you know I don’t believe that I mean

You’ve lived in you’ve lived in more places than I have you’ve lived in Arizona which is also a swing state although it’s kind of transitioning not to be a swing state but Arizona I’m sure Tom a swing state kind of guy if you think about it Illinois Illinois was not

Could not have had that many political ads back in the day Illinois really no I don’t know about back then but now I go there now I mean my Lord really I mean because you’ve got you know you’ve got there you know you’ve got 8,000 guys men and women running for Alderman whatever

That means right okay and you I mean you’ve got you’ve got the the the local Senate the local house the national Senate the national house governor I mean Republicans shouldn’t even be on the ballot in that state because they never win they have no chance right

Which is why you like living in Chicago and that’s one of the reasons you probably don’t which you may be on to something there where you might not see as many political ads as you do in a state where one side of the other has a

Chance to like here in here in Ohio you got it go you kind of do you kind of don’t I mean it’s the other way really here by and large because of the state the Senate the house the governor lieutenant governor Attorney General blah blah blah uh in one of the two uh

Senators breaking news Tom yes from our friend uh Drew Garrison yes uh he says that Bill Bill O’Brien has left Ohio State yeah they were talking about that coming so for those of you that don’t know going to Boston College Boston College so Bill O’Brien and you know

This was this was a whole interesting story um a couple of days ago because Ryan day had not met with the Press at all since their bowl game yeah and they have had I I think you could feasibly say they have had the most incredible off season May well certainly the most

Incredible in this day and age of nil and transfer portal uh they had like eight of their guys nine of their guys who were Juniors all draft eligible all considered to be top three round guys all of them except for Marvin Harrison Jr are coming back to play next year their senior

Year so it’s just like oh my God I mean you’ve got all of these players coming back then they go get maybe the best running back in the SEC transfers from Old Miss they get the quarterback from Kansas State we’ll see how that plays out but anyway so he hadn’t met with the

Media so they hire Bill O’Brien oh and on top of that you know they get in the transfer portal also the starting safety from Alabama the starting center from Alabama and the number one recruit in the country a quarterback out of California who had committed to Alabama

And then flipped when Sabin left and now he’s coming to Ohio state so you got all this going on well now they hire Bill O’Brien to be the offensive coordinator right and and and Ryan Day decides that he’s going to give up play calling he

Says I have to be he says I love play calling I hate giving it up but I have to be on my game for the rest of the team and what else is going on around here so for the first time ever he was going to give up play calling well Bill

O’Brien is a very experienced play caller at both the Collegiate level and the NFL all his years with belich and when he was head coach of the Houston Texans all those years but then the story surfaces two days ago that O’Brien’s a leading candidate to become

The head coach he’s not coached a game at Ohio State now he’s a head coach at Boston College and the comments made yesterday by day two days ago we’re we’re aware of the situation we’re on it so it’s going to be really interesting to see what

What they do next if day is giving up play calling and maybe now he has to take it back or is there somebody out there John Gruden is there somebody out there that you say come on in because you know Ohio state will pay through the nose right

You know that right so it’s not it’s not Beyond a realm of conception that they could get somebody if not him certainly somebody like John Gruden to come in and pay him to be the offensive coordinator that’s who I’d hire as an Ohio State fan what was your favorite moment from the

Bill O’Brien offensive coordinator era um apparently the quarterbacks really like him well there you go yeah how much pressure now is Ohio State that’s a good question one good thing about the off season is obviously they got a lot of talent and and certainly you can make the case that Ryan day’s

He’s been nothing but a good coach um the question is is that Ohio State wants great coaches or Ohio State fans want great coaches they want championships and if it’s if it’s anything less than a championship quite frankly I don’t know if they’re really ever going to be

Pleased which is just the way that’s the way it goes for the Blue Bloods question I have Tom is like I asked the same question last year I’ll ask it again really quickly is do you think by the fact that how good of a job Ryan Day Has

Done he’s actually put more pressure on himself now to where if he doesn’t perform he’s kind of did himself in from the standpoint that uh he’s on the hot seat if you want to call it that well there’s no doubt but I mean I mean look

When you take a job like that when you’re Kirby smart or you’re you know uh uh taking over at fill in the blank Michigan Penn State Alabama Georgia I mean USC you know what you’re getting into man you know what you’re getting into and it’s all about the pressure and

There’s no way for a second that that guys who have those jobs while they may not win all the big games at your fan base uh maybe want you to win but they are guys that are not going to back down to pressure they’re just not and so day

Knows I mean they’ve gone this off season from being oh my God they’re going to lose a ton to now oh my God they’ve got a ton and now the pressure is no doubt I saw where the athletic came out yesterday with the they’re they’re far too early top 25 Georgia one

Ohio State 2 as an Ohio State fan what’s a success in your mind what what would you say well they got to beat Michigan and they got to get to the college football playoff once you get there I think it’s unreasonable for anything man to expect you’re going to go there bless

You you’re going to go there and win every time I mean Harbaugh’s been to the last three he got eliminated in the semis two years in a row until this year you’re playing really good teams man right I mean Ohio State a year ago played Georgia who didn’t lose a game

All year long and won the National Championship they gave him the best game of anybody right that shoot out in the college football playoffs semis yep sometimes they go your way sometimes they don’t but he better darn sure beat of course this coming near the college

Football playoff is uh is 12 so you better get to the semis 12 makes it incredibly hard to win a National Championship no doubt about it it’s uh but that’s the same for everybody and I know that I know that uh listen if you win a National

Championship you have to beat good teams along the way to do it no matter what but it it it does feel like the way in which Michigan won a national championship will never happen again and what I mean by that is I do think that

Beating Ohio state was a big win Tom but I guess you know Alabama kind of snuck in there and yes you could say they were a good team but Alabama again this is the same team all year long that was a Hail Mary away from losing to Auburn and

Not even being in the college football playoff to then turning around and beating Washington with no disrespect you could argue who did they you know it’s just 12 teams now Tom there’s no doubt about it you’re going to have to beat the best what you could argue the

Best team in college football cuz Florida State and Georgia could have a legitimate argument that they were the best team in college football and I know Florida State’s a little bit of a yeah they lost 63 to3 but they didn’t have their guys right so you can

Make the case that they were the best team that won’t happen ever again no you’re right I I agree with you it’s going to be it’s going to be awesome uh that to go to 12 teams because of all the drama you’re going to have some of

These teams in that opening round will get byy some of the teams will have home games uh it’s going to be it’s going to be phenomenal all right let’s get to the Super Bowl uh and what I want to do is do we have chat rankings for this week

Today no we don’t we don’t we uh we knew that the news was going to be happening how we going to end the show okay all right so I got a few things I want to save us we talk about anything I want to talk about for about the next um what 35

Minutes and then um and then I want to make a few additional comments near the end uh let’s start Super Bowl Casey yes you follow this stuff morning noon and night give me your macro view of the Super Bowl this weekend what are you looking

At Tom I look at the Super Bowl and I just uh feel feel sorry for all those fans out there that just have fallen tra to that Patrick Mahomes is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time because you know you know this this this this team is just been so lucky

Throughout the playoffs right they had no business beating the Ravens but the Ravens beat themselves all right let’s give them the pass there they play Miami Dolphins keep in December January and we all know you can’t win when you wear teal uniforms in the playoffs playoffs Dolphins playoff come

On can’t do it come on can’t do it and then yeah about the bills the bills they’re one throw away from winning that game Casey you’re sliding down here quickly uh there’s the bills but that that was that was a good well-deserved win all right okay so they are playing

One of the greatest assembled teams in our generation they have a pro bowler or an Allstar or all proo I’m sorry at almost every single position for the 49ers CMC Trent Williams Nick Bosa Eric Armstead Fred Warner Brandon iuk Debo how actually how fungus hurt but they

Had a they had a All Pro safety they got travius Ward I mean Dre Greenlaw even have their worst player on defense is Chase young that’s their worst starting player is Chase young there is no way from the offense I’ve seen Patrick Mahomes operate this season that he stands a chance when that

49ers team is fired up and ready to play there’s just no chance that he’s going to be able to to score points against that defense now here’s the key are they going to come out firing on all sers are they gonna lay another goose egg like they’ve done the last couple playoff

Games now the defensive coordinator ripped them a new one after the NFC Championship he did called them soft yep so they didn’t play are called them quitters called them quitters Chase young top of the list bu guye I think they’re going to be fired up for this game Tom you look at the

Super Bowl that they played against each other a couple years ago 2018 or 2020 whatever that was and they were all over momes four sacks that game Mahomes threw two picks yeah but who won the game well yes they won the game because Tyreek Hill caught this punt that was just thrown up

Chucked up in the air I mean okay whatever they don’t have Tyreek Hill anymore they don’t have what half of their offense was in that Super Bowl and they’re going up against a much tougher defense this time I don’t know I don’t like the I don’t like Kansas

City’s chances I think everyone is on Kansas City everyone expects Kansas City to win I’m going against the gr okay so we’re going to get into our we’re just going to go and get our picks now and each person can give their sort of explanation on what they see so do we

Have can we put those up there these are our Super Bowl picks and Casey has made it very clear clear two-point spread you still like the ners with the spread correct I like the spread yes all right Casey takes the San Francisco 49ers Trace well without being as eloquent as

Uh as Casey just was I I I think that Patrick Mahomes has grown on me I’m not going to sit here and completely be a complete hater I he’s he’s made me a believer in the sense that this year I will say that I don’t think he has

Nearly the weapons he’s had in the past I do think he still has a pretty good run game which is pretty a pretty pretty helpful thing when you can turn around and hand it off on Third and three and not have to throw the ball and get a

First down but having said that this is one of those weird games tom where I it just feels like the 49ers are going to put it together at some point but maybe they won’t but I’m going to bet on the fact that they do they’ve not played up

To their standard if you want to call it that all postseason but they found a way to win that’s what great teams do I think good teams You could argue they play well consistently great teams find a way to win when they’re not playing well at all and the 49ers were were able

To do that the entire postseason yes they’ve been fortunate they maybe they shouldn’t have been there but isn’t that the story or isn’t that the way that every Championship season goes it feels like every Champion that you’ve ever seen every Super Bowl winner if you go back through the history of their

Playoffs there’s always been one game where something I don’t want to say fluky but something fortunate has happened for them and that allowed them to win sure same with the NCAA March Madness as well um very rarely does a team just steamroll right through the tournament like Yukon did maybe last

Year uh having said that I’m going to bet on the fact that this Chief team is is not as good as they’ve shown the last few weeks and one thing that nobody really talks about in this situation is the chiefs were hot but there’s a byee here so there’s a

There’s a little bit of a stretch to where I would argue the momentum can kind of die over the course of a twoe stretch versus it being like hey I’m staying in a rhythm playing every single Sunday um but again Chiefs have have been there and done it the 49ers have it

But I am going to take the 49ers well Lindsay is uh just on the other side of the door and she uh jumps in the chat Lindsay thank you says I think the 49ers Have Made It by the skin of their teeth in the playoff games I don’t think

They’ll be able to do that with the Chiefs so Lindsay is weighing in for the Kansas City Chiefs all right right remouse how we looking uh listen I I’ve flip-flopped my opinion on this game about 36 times CU When I think about these two teams I think about one of the

Greatest rosters that has ever been put together in the NFL yesterday we did a fun little segment where we put um the top 10 players in this game and when you look at the players are playing in this game there’s 10 possibly 10 future Hall of Famers playing in this game last year

Had a stacked a stacked roster between the two teams between the Eagles and the um the Chiefs but this year is even better just because of how many big names are on the 49ers um we’re talking about a 49ers team that comes in with a lot of pressure I think that they have

Significantly more pressure than the Kansas City Chiefs the Chiefs have been there they’ve done they’ve won the game they’ve not been labeled the best team in the league all season long um like the 49ers have I think there’s a lot of pressure on Kyle Shanahan Kyle Shanah I

Agree with you Kyle Shanahan of course lost the game um the 28 to3 game Tom Brady versus the Falcons he was the offensive coordinator he was the one that was slinging it around lost that game um they get to the Super Bowl when he’s at the 49ers a head coach and you

Know they they don’t show up and play well so now when you get to the game a couple times and you’re not able to get over that hump you start to overthink things and I think Kyle Shanahan is without a doubt one of the greatest coaches in the game currently but he he

Is overly reliant on his on his on his play sheets um the one thing that I do love about the 49ers is we haven’t seen them play from behind before this postseason and they did that in both their postseason games I would say the 49ers haven’t played well over their

Last three most important games they played terrible against the Ravens I don’t think they played very well they’re lucky to get a win against the Packers and then they stormed and played a second half against the Detroit Lions they are the better team there’s no doubt about that but you’re taking the

Team that has way more pressure on them you’re taking the quarterback or the the coach that has so much pressure coming into this game the quarterback who hasn’t been here before he does play with a chip on his shoulder does play with a lot of swagger that’s what I like

About Brock birdie but on the other side you’re looking at the Kansas City Chiefs who have the best coach in the game and Andy Reid who have the best quarterback who’s trying to fight his legacy to be maybe the best quarterback the game’s ever seen you have a defense that

Doesn’t get enough credit to this day they still don’t get enough credit they haven’t given up 27 points but but one time all year long the the stat that I keep thinking of is when the Chiefs scor 21 points they’re undefeated this year so if they they surpass 21 points I

Think this is going to be a very low-scoring game at that and uh the Chiefs are playing their best football at the moment they go everyone wants to talk about this 49ers pass rush well the 49ers and sacks this year are like seventh in the NFL the teams that the

All three teams that the Chiefs have played in the postseason have had more sacks Ravens were number one bills were number three Dolphins were number four in the league so they’ve been able to um nullify a good pass rush I think this is going to be a very low-scoring game but

In a game where I can’t make up my mind I oftentimes go with the quarterback and the better Coach and I think that both Falls with the Kansas City Chiefs the Chiefs all right Elliott the irony of everything is when when Casey and Trace over there they sit and they slander Patrick

Mahomes the reasoning is everybody’s on the Chiefs everybody’s on the Chiefs the more you say that and the more you start betting 49ers and then everybody starts having that opinion oh yeah everybody’s on the Chiefs then it switches Tom then everybody gets back on the 49ers we’ve

Hit we’ve hit it perfectly we’ve hit it perfectly the chiefs were all over everybody was all over the Chiefs at the beginning but now we got we got some Sharps over here saying oh over here in the studio over here right there everybody’s on the Chiefs the whole

World is on the Chiefs so now we’re all going to bet 49ers right come on everybody that’s over there come back over here we’re going to all bet on the 49ers but when you do that then you leave nobody with the Chiefs and I and myself and Reed we will gladly stay on

The side of Patrick Mahomes I’ve got a stat for you Tom uh and again this is my stat of the day all right this is preliminary lunar analysis the Chiefs are 15 and this is the last 5 years sorry they are 19 in one under a whack waxing crescent a

Waxing crescent the day of the Super Bowl you ask what is it a waxing crescent the Chiefs have lost one game one game in the last five years it was let’s check that year that was 2021 against the Buffalo Bills that was the last time they lost a game in 20 tries

On a waxing crescent condition the Chiefs are going to win this game the 49ers yes they’ve proven that they can come back against the Lions against the the Packers this is the Kansas City Chiefs I dare them to get down 20 points I I want them I’m begging them to get

Down come back from that I want them to come I want them to try to come back from 17 against Patrick Mahomes in that defense I beg them I’m going to take the Chiefs all the way to the bank I’m not I I I I bet on the bills I bet on the

Ravens every team I bet against every time I bet against Patrick Mahomes I fail I’m not getting I’m not getting suckered into this bet anymore I’m taking the Chiefs the Chiefs are going to win this Super Bowl Patrick Mahomes will cement himself as the second greatest quarterback in the history of

The sport and Trac and and Casey over there will slander his good name until the day they die and that’s fine they will die on their little Hill uh but me personally we are going all the way to the bank so everybody please I’m begging you please keep saying that the 49ers

Nobody’s on the 49ers everybody’s on the Chiefs because the more you say it the more people will go over to that losing side leaving my pick open for a W for a big cash that’s right easy W Kansas City Chiefs win you need to donate your brain

To science it should I should it would be worth millions for those of you wondering Ellie had broke this out a couple of weeks ago before the championship games about the different phases if you will of the Moon okay and you just said the Chiefs in the last 20

Years only once has Kansas City lost during what is called the waxing crescent moon that’s correct okay now what does that mean now this is actually something all of us could probably take a little something from obviously the Chiefs hat the waxing crescent phrase is often referred to as the rebuilding

Phase okay that’s what it’s often referred to once the moon has reemerged with New Energy new I love that right Energy new energy it’s the perfect time to set new intentions for the month ahead and work on self-improvement so uh how does a waxing uh crescent moon affect

You good question a lot of people are asking it lights a fire under your tail that’s the definition charging you with energy and ambition to go out and get it done you’re saying the Chiefs get it done 100% And by the way if you rode my moon

Pick with the Lions you covered that bet they covered the spread and all of the I believe it was the waning crescent that was the waning so the moon bet won there it’s going to win again 19-1 waxing crescent we’ll see you on Sunday for an easy dub and everybody’s going to doubt

This little Moon nonsense that’s fine you can doubt it uh and you can keep saying that the Chiefs nobody oh everybody’s on the Chiefs blah blah blah blah I’m going to win the same people that are doubting the moon logic don’t believe in horoscopes and that’s that’s where they’re going wrong that’s where

That’s exactly you’re right us Tauruses we stick together we we know what it’s about we know our astrological signs that’s right okay all right Tom you were the tiebreaker here well look I’m I you know I I sit there and I say to myself there was a time not too long ago and

It’s hard for people to remember this but there was a time not too long ago and I was announcing games in the league when Andy Reid was a head coach in Philadelphia he’s there for better than a decade they’re getting to NFC championship games they’ve got Donovan McNab they’ve got this incredible

Defense right but they can’t win the big one and everybody started questioning Andy Reed and Philadelphia said we’re done with this he’s fired people forget Andy Reid was fired in Philadelphia okay Peterson comes in they win a Super Bowl right oh see Reed you know okay so Reed goes to Kansas City uh

He’s considered to be one of the best coaches in the game he goes there and what happens he gets in the playoffs a couple times with Alex Smith there and then what happens he gets even a far better quarterback than Donovan McNab was and McNab was one hell of a player

He really was tough guy gave you everything he had I mean one of the great Warriors in Philadelphia sports history but everybody will remember he never won the Super Bowl Andy Reid never won the Super Bowl until what happens you get the best quarterback Bill bich won Super Bowl

After Super Bowl after Super Bowl why he had the best quarterback I love Brock pie I have been his biggest Defender around here I think the guy’s going to be a great player me and Reed have been on on his on his you know blazing that

Trail for two years now that’s right but look there’s no way on God’s Earth I’m with you guys there is no way on God’s Earth that were I were I a gambler and I have said that I have had in my life at one point in time or another if not

Right now every Vice there is known to man I’ve had them all had them all wish I could say otherwise but had them all the only one I haven’t had is gambling if I were a gambling and so I’m speaking from no experience here so maybe what I say you

Just throw out the window it’s fine there’s no way on God’s Earth I’m betting against the Kansas City Chiefs I think as an underdog he’s like 10 in one outright Patrick Mahomes is so Tom can I ask you to do something for me whatever you need and this is with love and this

Is with respect no then that means it’s about to be something probably not so I am not a good gambler but based on your picks this year you were the world’s worst Gambler so what I’m going to have you do is switch your pick so I can win

My bet can you do that for me you can have morally in your heart you know the Chiefs are the better team but I just like it up there to say that you took the 4 then the ners I bet the ranch on I bet it all on the ners now now we’re

Good now I feel great that’s that’s basically why me and Trace feel so good over here the two worst gamblers in room over here is just completely all over the the the so no no no no no I’ll tell you one thing I’ve never said I’ve never

Said I was nervous once Elliots was was on the opposite side of me I was I’ve never once thought oh man Elliot he’s on the other side of this maybe I should rethink it that’s never been a thought you’re going to feel you’re going to feel real bad you’re going to feel real

Silly when I walk in here I put 30 big bucks on the Chiefs to win when I come in here with 2750 because of you know the Vegas thing if I come in here with 2750 on Monday you’re going to feel real stupid are you to cover or win outright uh

Cover I’m not playing so confident he wants those two points here’s you know what’s you know what’s interesting about this game in all seriousness getting getting us back on uh topic here when it comes to Super Bowl is just how like both these teams have gotten to this

Game in incredibly different routs like they have built their teams completely different you’ve got the 49ers who have this old team of all these huge Stars got they’re paying everyone but the quarterback right that’s right and that’s why they’re able to do it right they’re they’re paying everyone but the

Quarterback you know we want we want pass rushers we want linan we want wide receiver like all the things that um they’re spending money on through the free agency and then you got the Chiefs who just go like yeah we got the one quarterback we got the best quarterback

In the league we’re just going to ride on him we’ll give him one weapon and we’ll just keep we’ll just keep circulating the guys around him and you know what we’ll we’ll win plenty of games that’s what’s really cool about the NFL is you can get to the game in

Multiple ways you can get to the big game I mean it it’s not like uh like in the NBA you you got to have multiple stars to get there in baseball you got to spend a bunch of money and when it comes to the NFL so many different

Routes can get you to that big game yeah there’s no doubt there’s no doubt uh I want to I before we forget we move off this topic I want to say drew Garrison has Super Chat $10 Shanah Hannah is skinny Reed is fat yeah big government doesn’t want you healthy they will make

Sure the Chiefs win open your eyes that was so mean from Drew did you did you can you read Justin’s Super Chat that’s deep Justin also had a Super Chat is it about me no uh Justin edre with a $5 Super Chat Tom’s walk-off shot should be showing Drake’s Hammer back to uh

What what Tommy you didn’t see that on X no I did not I have no idea what you run the clip quick I I I think I think the biggest point that anybody in here has made is and I and I and I really believe it Reed mentioned it the 49ers have everything

To lose the Chiefs are playing with house money that that’s where we are in this Super Bowl and that’s why I honestly believe that the Chiefs will win yeah that’s that’s what you know what’s crazy about everyone putting money on on the Chiefs because all the

Money is on the Chiefs just for the same reason that that Tom said that we said is like when it comes down to this game are you going to put money on Patrick Mahomes or Brock and I know I make a shtick out of making fun of Brock pie

But in all seriousness he’s obviously a pretty pretty skilled quarterback um it’s it’s all season long it was man these Chiefs aren’t very good all season long it was man this this team isn’t very good and these 49ers are incredible they’re the best team ever and all it

Took was two weeks in the postseason for the 49ers to to be out played you know they sneak out wins against the Lions and the Packers to NFC North teams and the the the Chiefs go on and beat two of the best teams in the NFL and the

Buffalo Bills and the Baltimore Ravens for that um narrative to completely flip on its 10 so now everyone’s like all right how are you going to bet against the Chiefs that doesn’t scare you at all what do you mean I am just saying like it doesn’t scare you that that

Maybe just maybe that the perception has just been skewed a little bit like you’re you’re you’re you’re buying you’re buying uh some false narrative that really doesn’t actually exist you know it’s like it’s kind of like know you go on a date or two with somebody that you’re having a blast you’re having

A real good time and then you know you meet their family and and you look at you look at kind of the maybe maybe the way that they go about their living Arrangement at their apartment and you realize ah you know I don’t know this doesn’t really go towards the morals

That I grew up on but you know what I’ve had a blast the last two weeks this is going to work out I’m not buying into any false narrative whatsoever I’ve said from the get-go that the 49ers are the better team they have the they the much

Better roster the only narrative and and to say that it’s a false narrative is isn’t it’s not false at all the Chiefs have played a better postseason run they played better teams and they’ve dominated both games when the 49ers played inferior teams and got outplayed for that’s so that’s not a false

Narrative whatsoever that’s exactly what happened that’s fair I’m fighting I I’ve said every time I’ve talked about this game the 49ers should win this game they’ve got the better better they’ve got better receivers they’ve got a better off def line they’ve got a better running back they got a better defensive

Line they’ve got a maybe not a better secondary but they’ve got better linebackers so every single position on the field is better other than you know tight end where it’s the best tight end in the league versus the second best tight end in the league and then quarterback which obviously as we all

Know is the most important position in all of sport yep so when when people are asking the question why aren’t the Chiefs favored in this it’s because they they’re not as good if you go go back to if if this game was played week 10 of the NFL regular season at a neutral

Sight the 49ers wouldn’t be favored by two points they’d be favored by a touchdown because they are the better team they’ve got the better roster the only reason that this that the spread is two points is just because of the way the teams have looked over the past um

Three games that they’ve played um all right you know a lot of people including my buddy today school bus driver we were talking about this this morning um I I asked him I said who are you rooting for he said man I I I can’t root for

Anybody he said I’m old enough to to to remember the 49ers kicking the Bengals tail twice in a Super Bowl that’s right he said and now I’ve had to listen to this Kansas City Chief’s stuff for the last how many years since BAU showed up

On the scene right so I think I would think a lot of people who are who are Bengals fans are probably facing that same dilemma so let me just ask you this which team each of you if you didn’t have money on it or anything else who

Are you rooting for to win the game or do you care who wins the game um take the gambling part out yeah so my rooting interest is for Brock P’s success okay so rooting for the 49ers rooting for Brock P success so he’d rather have he’d rather

Have Brock pie throw for 450 yards with four touchdowns and the San Francisco 49ers lose then the Brock py throws zero tou touchdowns two interceptions and the 49ers win correct is that because of gambling no no I think he’s just a brock P guy I’m ay to I am too all right Trey

Who you rooting for um or are you rooting for anyone well I’m definitely not rooting for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs that’s a fact so I’m going I’m going to root for the 49ers clearly I’m put my money where my my heart is okay and hopefully it all

Pays itself off who you guys rooting for any rooting interest at all I don’t I don’t I I I don’t like the 49ers I’ve never liked the 49ers not only because what they’ve done to the Bengals but I I truly believe that they seem to be the

Dodgers of the NFL in terms of they can always put up put out a great regular season they get to the postseason and they choke that seems to be what’s happening here that’s what I think will happen the Chiefs I don’t root I don’t root for the Chiefs I don’t root for

Patrick Mahomes I don’t root for Travis Kelce uh I don’t I I don’t root for anybody that’s out on the field but if I had to pick if you’re going to make me root I’ll root for Mr Irrelevant I’ll I’ll do the same thing Casey did I’ll

Say if this if this Underdog Story wants to go out and win a Super Bowl that I think that’s a fun storyline uh but saying that I I truly don’t have a rooting interest I just have a gambling interest uh if you’re asking me who I’m

Rooting for I am far too young um I wasn’t even alive when the the Bengals lost to the 49ers in both those Super Bowls so that means quite literally nothing to me so I don’t I don’t have a slant against the 49ers because they beat the Bengals I understand older

Bengals fans why they would get it so I I every my rooting interest is very much based in my Bengals fandom okay that’s what I’m asking and for that reason I want the Kansas City Chiefs to win and people might be asking how the heck does

That make sense Reed yeah really I am too it does it doesn’t make sense well the reason that it makes sense is because if the Kansas City Chiefs wins what changes what changes for Bengals fans absolutely nothing this team is already better is already a better franchise they’ve already won two Super

Bowls something that the Bengals have not even been able to do once Patrick Mahomes has already cemented himself as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time it just furthers his legacy I’m a fan of the AFC fan of the Bengals so that’s part of the reason

That I don’t want the 49ers to win the other reason and this is me being entirely honest perhaps a little bit insecure as a Bengals fan is that if Brock pie wins I can’t I can’t hear the is Brock pie better than Joe burrow conversation I can’t do that and I know

That’s going to come up so I just don’t I just want to avoid that I just want to circumnavigate that all an entirety because if Brock pie does win we will be having that conversation whether it’s a legit conversation or not I don’t want to get into today the the Friday before

The Super Bowl but I know that if Patrick momes wins it means nothing to the Bengals it changes nothing about how the bals are perceived in the league in fact it actually raises the Bengals because they’re the only team to beat Patrick Mahomes uh Joe burrow and Tom

Brady are the only ones to do that I want to ask you Tom because yesterday Reed gave his top 10 of the uh of the best players of this Super Bowl match up yes Brock py wasn’t on that list if the 49ers win this Super Bowl do you believe

It will be because of Brock P I think he will have to have a large hand in it and I look no further than their regular season body of work and really in the postseason um games he’s not played well they don’t win Baltimore four picks right okay the first half against

Detroit he does not play well okay now he didn’t light it up in the second half but the bottom line is is they scored 24 27 points in the second half they did something right now the defense stepped up and played better but at the end of

The day the 49 there’s no team there’s no team if people say well you know Trent ders won a Super Bowl and all these kind of guys right and and and mark rippen and well well go look and see what Mark rippen did in the Super

Bowl when he won it for the Washington Redskins I think he threw four or five touchdown passes in the game I mean the dude lit it up he may not be one of the alltime great quarterbacks the quarterback’s got to play well he can’t turn the ball

Over obviously so yes I mean I don’t know how anybody in their right mind in any football game high school game college game pro game how in the world is a quarterback starting quarterback of one of the top of one of the two teams not in the 10 most important players of

The game I mean are you kidding 10 best players in the game well of course he’s one of the 10 best players Tom the 49er I mean there’s there’s a legitimate shot that there’s 10 Hall of Famers playing in this Super Bowl legitimately and do

You think Brock p is a hall of f like no no no I don’t think he’s all patri Patrick Mahomes Hall of Famer Travis Kelce Hall of Famer Christian mcaffrey Hall of Famer Trent Williams Hall of Famer I think I don’t know about that but Williams is is probably a Hall of

Famer I think Chris Jones will be a Hall of Famer I think but not today I’m I’m just I’m perceiving yeah if Brock py retires today he’s not aall of Famer but I think we’re we’re projecting that he won’t get there either um I think a Fred

Warner can make a Hall of Fame I think a George KD George KD is one of the best tight ends in the game right now and and has been for a long time like we were talking Hall of Famers on top of Hall of Famers playing in this game and I’m

Sorry that if I have to to poke the bear and say that Brock pie isn’t one of the 10 best players in this game I don’t think that’s I don’t I I really don’t even think that’s a controversial take okay I think their formula to success is giving theall ball

To Christian mcaffrey I think that’s how they win the game I think Brock fry can certainly be the re a factor into why they lose and maybe that’s not fair maybe that’s not fair that he can be the reason they lose and not the reason they

Win but I think that’s what it’s going to be I think the 49ers are going to fall behind in this game just like they’ve done the past two postseason games and they’re going to be unable to throw their way out of it because of who they have a quarterback I think Brock PR

Is a damn good quarterback but at the end of the day Reed is somewhat correct when you look around these two rosters Brock is not a top 10 player he’s not in this game yeah and and that once again that is not disparaging I I think to

Brock pie I think that is like almost an objective fact based on what’s around and he can he can change that perception right if Brock p is a perennial MVP candidate then yeah he’s he we will look back and be like oh man this was the the

Blossoming of Brock P’s career but at this moment with the information that we have in front of us I don’t think you can consider him a top 10 player in this game you think Andy Reid retires Tom if they win no I do not

No I do not I think he’s gonna want to continue to to win with Mahomes as long as he has momes yeah he’s not going anywhere unless there’s something physically going on with him that we don’t know about I mean yeah I didn’t mean I just meant I just meant purely you’ve done

This for so long at some point you want to ride off into the sunset Nick Sabin style and you’re just kind of you’re you’re at the point in your life where you there there’s really nothing left to prove there’s nothing left to I guess theoretically gain 65 he’s he said like

They’ve asked him this question this week and he has cuz they always give really solid truthful answers in these these pres well he didn’t dance around it he he straight up said I’m not retiring yeah he basically he literally said it was it wasn’t like I thought he

Said now’s not the time he said now’s not the time and you can take that a couple of different way you can say now’s not the time for me to retire or you can say now is not the time for me to be talking about this yeah right

That’s the way I took it yeah I could see how you could take it either way yeah and look Trent Williams somebody said you know Tom you’re a fool he’s been to 11 Pro bows okay all right Hall of Famer that’s fine fourth overall pick in

2010 uh most of that time spent in Washington before he came to the ners fair enough 35 years old still really good um three real quick three super Chats on this topic uh cboy $1.99 250 on the Chiefs money line here we go Tom by

The hype Big C 499 I think py will garoo 2.0 mcaffry is the true MVP of the 49ers and then he added an additional two $2 Super Chat to correct the previous Super Chat will be so I think cie will be Garoppolo 2.0 Well here here’s a deal look you don’t

Have to be an X as an O’s you don’t have to be somebody who follows football all that closely to understand that what you guys just said is exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs are are saying on defense they took away Baltimore’s Run game and they forced Lamar to have to

Beat him in the air mhm right they completely shut down the Run game and once they got ahead as Brian bck pointed out now all of a sudden Baltimore is having to do something they haven’t done all year long because most of the year they’re playing with a lead they just

Run it run it run it run it Kansas City’s number one priority in the game besides winning the game is to stop the run of Christian mcaffrey they are going to Force Brock pie into situations where he’s going to be the guy that can beat them they are not

Going to let now it’s not to say that their line doesn’t just blow open holes and okay mcaffrey runs for 158 yards but nobody’s run the ball all that well against Kansas City this year they are going to load up Spagnola the defensive coordinator everything to stop mcaffrey that’s why I say

The most important player in this game for either team is pie without in my opinion without a doubt because that’s what they’re going to do he’s the biggest qu he he certainly is the biggest question mark right without a doubt can he do it or not do it you’re absolutely right if

Brock pie goes out there and shines then it’s hard to believe that I said this from the get-go it’s hard to believe that the Chiefs went a shootout against the 49ers I don’t see that no I don’t either they don’t want that game no they don’t they their their game plan is

Exactly what they did against the Ravens you know shorten the game limit possessions control the ball um you’re right if Brock pie throws for 375 yards and in a pair of touchdowns the 49ers will Cruise will absolutely cruise to uh to a Super Bowl win but there’s also

That case where you can see Brock pry throwing a pair of picks um as he did against the Ravens as he as he did in the first half against the Lions he threw one pick um you know well Lamar did it too right that’s what they forced

Him to do they forced him to beat them with his arm and you know he throws a couple of picks he throws One In The End Zone which basically clinch the game that’s the those are the mistakes pie cannot make right doesn’t matter how talented their roster is he cannot make

Him and if he doesn’t make them they’re going to win the game but again I’m supposed to say I took the 49 or so right Elliot yes okay please all right okay that would help me out you think we’re going to get a close game Tom cuz

I I it feels like uh we’ve been dancing around a blowout at some point like I always think to myself it’s been I’ve looking back to here OB obviously Tampa Bay vers Kansas City wasn’t very close but we’ve had a pretty good run of Super Bowls lately we obviously the Rams and

The Bengals and then last year was a great game do we get three great games in a row or is this going to be one of those situations where it ends up I think we get a good one don’t you I have a weird feeling that it’s similar to the

Uh in my mind it’s similar to when um the Panthers played the Broncos Broncos yeah to where you kind of forget how really how how good one defense is and how bad at times the other offense has been that’s the that’s the storyline that’s not been talked

About we talked about how great Patrick Mahomes and and he’s been great they scored 17 points last week that’s right they they they there’s been numerous times this year where that offense has looked abysmal and Kansas you could say Obviously Kansas City has played better and they have but

They’re going up a very up against a very good defense that got thrashed against the Lions and usually good teams great teams bounce back we’ll see I have a bad feeling about it well that’s that’s the you’re right like we we we’ve danced around the the chief’s offense

But as I’ve been beating the drum on the the Chiefs defense it’s it’s it’s been top five in the league literally all season long they’ve given up 27 points one time um if you’re looking at what the the 49ers have given up they’ve given up 27 points I’m looking at it

Right here they’ve given up 27 points in uh four times in two times in December like I’m I’m not going to read it all off and their three- game lose streak they gave up 31 points to the the Bengals so like this is it very much out

Of the three there’s four outcomes right Chiefs win a close game 49ers win a close game Chiefs blow him out 49ers blow him out out of those four possible outcomes the only one I cannot see whatsoever is the Chiefs blowing out the 49ers and that is because they do have

Some um some problems on the offensive side of the ball see I I just I I I would disagree with that I I think that while I don’t expect it it’s not what I’m saying I I I mean I could see the Chiefs blowing them out of the gym if

Pie has a kind of because they have a they have a you say whatever you want the chief’s defense is a better defense in the 49ers 49ers have more stars the chief’s defense is a better defense um and they’ve backed it up the the the Chiefs outside of the Denver game the

One game this year where they just completely laid an egg right and that was the most points that they they’ve given that’s right I mean you know outside of that they’ve proven it all year long that they don’t get blown out of the gym their quarterback doesn’t

Have a three or four interception game or turn it over three or four times in a game they don’t do it the 49ers have done it the 49ers have laid an egg on defense falling behind especially against the Lions a good team drills the 49ers in that game a really

Good team wins that game by three touchdowns without a doubt and and and and so you know then you look at Kansas City yeah they may not be scoring 17 points they had none in the second half against against Baltimore but they never ever ever shoot themselves in the foot

And and and get blown out of the gym and so you know look I mean if per has has a kind of game he had against Baltimore a really good defense like Kansas City’s defense I could certainly seeing Kansas City blowing them out of the gym you throw you throw four picks

You’re getting the ball on this side of the 54 five times over the course of a game for momes and Pacho and Kelce and here we go I mean this is Kansas City man this is these are the Kansas City Chiefs they’re playing in their four

Super Bowl in the last six years they’re trying to win it for the third time this is the Kansas City Chiefs uh you know they they’re they’re they’re really good really good um and and the thing that’s amazing is you know we talked about the beginning in the monologue about their

Their general manager saying they got to bring back sne they got to bring back Jones that’s their priority maybe they will maybe they won’t but Mahomes ain’t going anywhere and I don’t think Reed’s going anywhere maybe he is I mean they they’re not going away they’re not going away they’ve been too

Good at constructing their roster just think of where they were four years ago from the way they built their roster to the way that roster is built now it’s almost in about face except for momes and Kelce they were really good on offense unbelievably explosive and now

All of a sudden they’ve become a good offense with a great quarterback and a great tight end and a great defense young so to think they’re going anywhere cuz Mahomes ain’t going anywhere um I just don’t see it happen all right uh real quick any thoughts

Zebra do does you see nailed down a spot in the NCAA tournament a barring a collapse collapse the rest of the season say they play 500 the rest of the year if they beat Houston tomorrow is that their Marquee win to get them in they beat Houston tomorrow

They in if they beat Houston tomorrow they’re in they’re currently in right now if if they if they take yeah but if they take care of business we’re not waiting on selection Sunday to find out if we’re in we’re at that that that’s the the team has proved up until this

Point uh we’re too far into the Big 12 uh season conference season um to say that UC is not good so they’re they’re a damn good team if they stay healthy they beat Houston they’re in they’re in they’re in the tournament Tom I asked these guys um a couple days ago will the

City of Cincinnati get one tournament win this year yes you think so yes I do I would take I think they could get more than that I think I think I don’t know if both teams will get in they certainly will get one team if even if both teams

Get in they’ll both be underdogs like I don’t see um Cincinnati get in and has like a seven seed or something like that I think Cincinnati will be like a 10 if Xavier gets in certainly will be like an 11 um so it would it would take an upset

But I’m with you I think I think they I think they get a tournament win this uh we have a super chat Big C $5 cadarius Tony had a Breakout game last Super Bowl do you all think he could have a sleeper Breakout game this time around despite

His struggles not only do I not think he will play a snap uh I he might get cut before the game so no I I do not think Gary Stony will be an impact in that game if the Chiefs are if the Chiefs are lucky he won’t be an impact in that

Game okay all right um we’re going to wind down here we’ve got box lunch coming up next correct casy you’re a day to host quiplash yep any teas for the show uh it’s just a quiplash day just another gaming day where we uh Focus mainly on just having fun so it’s not a

Heavy show do we not have fun on this show is that what you’re saying no we have fun on this show no you kind of implied that we’re just going to try to have some fun like the last two hours have been like a DRFT no that’s not that’s not kind of

The way it sounded that’s not what I was trying to going is your bride feeling well enough by the way where Boogie Nights is on tap for the weekend not this weekend next weekend probably like the 17th probably when we’ll go okay y okay all right okay um listen we were talking

At the very uh beginning of the show that you know chatter box we’re expanding and so there there are lots of things going on I’m going to take on a little bit different role we’re going to be doing a show on a Monday and then either Thursday or Friday was trying to

Work through all of that including a big interview every single week still talk a lot about local sports a lot about National Sports that kind of thing trace and the Gang Elliot Reed and Casey will continue to do this show but you know I

I I want to I I really want to say something to uh to uh two things I first of all before I get to those two again please I’m not going anywhere I’m still a chatterbox Sports guy I mean maybe some of you are hoping I’d go somewhere and I understand that

Too my wife’s hoping I go somewhere anywhere just leave the house for a while but um I’m here and I’m all in on chatter box okay but like the rest of you guys you know you got other things in life that are kind of pulling you in different directions and different

Stages of your life and so I’ve got to be able to go address nothing bad but just have more time for some of those things that I can’t write now but that leads me to to the two things I want to talk about number one you know I I

Really want to thank trace and Shawn for giving me the chance to come do this show um I have not been hired for any other job since right here at Chatterbox after I got fired and earned getting fired in 2020 I have not had a chance to go back

And broadcast anything I mean not a local radio show not a uh Mid-American Conference football game certainly not like the old days of Major League Baseball and the NFL right and you know what that’s okay totally at peace with that but like a lot of you you know you feel like you’re healthy

You feel like you’re strong you feel like you might have something to to offer somebody the only guys to give me that chance the only guys in the world to give me that chance of something that I said three and a half years ago we’re going to hit this baseball season and

This will be four straight Major League Baseball Seasons that I’m not calling games that’s okay but what’s more okay is you had at least one person out there when you’re going through a lot of the stuff that I was going through and like like I said I

Earned it so this is not like some pity party thing here okay I’m the one that said what I said I’ve apologized profusely I’ve tried to grow from it I know I have grown from it and there always going to be people out there that

Are going to throw up the meme you know casos there’s a drive in the left man of Faith may never put my headset on again the haters hate they do what they want to do that’s fine no problem do whatever you want to do whatever makes you happy

In that regard if you’re one of those people knock yourself out but I hope for good things for you but in those last four years man you start a lot of things start spinning in your mind you know am I ever going to me

Am I ever going to get a chance to work again am I going to be remembered as the guy who said that word and you’re thought of as a homophobe which I am not and can look right in the eye and not a sliver of it in my body not

One not one drop of homophobic blood in my body not one and people that have spent time with me that are gay would tell you the same thing but that’s neither here nor there you wonder you’re ever going to work again and the only guy take a shot

Of this guy right here Casey this is the only guy right here who said you know what maybe there is such a thing as forgiveness and a second chance in this world and that’s Trace fower I cannot thank you enough from the bottom of my heart Shawn as well

Yeah I mean listen I I’ve tried to illustrate this to you as much as I possibly can it’s a it’s a two-way street this isn’t some pH philanthropic thing that we did to where it’s like oh let’s you’ve helped us out a lot too Tom and um you know there are things that

Happened in life that you obviously wish would have been different um we’ve had conversations about the perceptions that you’ve had whether whether when you were on air with the Reds and Etc and at the end of the day you know uh um I I just

Wish I just wish that you get what you deserve at some point which is an opportunity to do what you ultimately love and I think that’s part of what we’re doing here and it it’s uh it’s it’s obviously nothing that we can control I mean uh you’ve you’ve been on

Our Airwaves you’ve been nothing but uh but cordial to us you’ve you’ve come in here and and and obviously been a part of what we’ve done for two years and you’re not leaving I get that but at the same time also know what uh we’re we’re you know we’re trying to accomplish here

And I knew from the very start that you were there was a chance that Tom brenman was going to be gone the the you know the next day because somebody called him and gave him an opportunity um that you rightfully uh should obtain and you know ultimately we’ve we’ve we’ve kind of

Bounced around this thing of will it ever happen or not happen I don’t know I would just say um that I hope it does and if it doesn’t then that’s shame on our society quite frankly and I know that’s probably not the time and place to really talk about the Deep the Deep

Uh depths of of what things should happen in this society and what shouldn’t but um but I would just tell you that we appreciate everything you’ve done for us it’s not a philanthropic philanthropic thing that you that you uh that you Showcase from time to time and

Um you know I would just say thank you to you I know that you know you feel indebted to us you shouldn’t feel that way you’ve you’ve come in here you’ve done your job we’ve grown from it uh there’s a lot of people that would have never known about Chatterbox Sports if

It wasn’t for you um we’ve we’ve we’ve accumulated some haters because of you Tom and that’s okay that the small minority that I keep trying to tell you there’s a there’s a small people out there that have a big loud voice on the internet um but but usually they don’t

Have much to say uh outside the internet and I would just say that I think the vast majority of people if you asked them face to face Tom uh they they would be uh they would be rooting for you in the way that you handled all this and

Maybe one day today’s not the day maybe one day we have an open honest conversation about that whole situation uh I know we kind of keep um not delaying that but really to a certain extent there’s there’s um there’s really no reason to get into that with with the

Opportunities that may come about but at the same time you know I’d really like for one day you get the opportunity to say you know this is this is what happened and most people that have any kind of brain would would understand that you know what if you took everything out of my

Past that I’ve ever done in my life I could probably pick a few things out in my life that I wouldn’t be proud about either and uh hopefully us as human beings will find a way to give people Second Chances and I hope that you’re at

The top of the list I appreciate it thank you the second thing I want to say is um to all you guys who have been a part of this show because again you know somebody made reference somebody in the chat here a few minutes ago about you know what a great time we

Had that night when we went down to the ballpark and all hung out up in the um you know the Centerfield whatever it’s called the boat up there Pilot House whatever it is and you know I got a chance to not only read the names but

Now put the names to the faces the easiest thing in the world to do is to get on the bandwagon when somebody’s going good right I mean you know you can all root for this guy or really want to be around that guy or this gal or whatever might

Be but then the second the wheels fall off in some form or fashion hit is like oh man that guy he’s blah blah blah that gal BL da da whatever it might be the worst get him out of here never even gonna acknowledge their existence ever

Again if it is it’s always going to be something bad I’m always going to look at it as something bad but you who are here you know who I’m talking to I’ve been in the public eye 35 years of my 60 on this Earth 40 Years of the

60 on the earth because basically started working a TV at 22 right so you know you don’t always always know who are the ones that are that are that are riding with you because you’re going good but believe me you find out in a hurry who the ones

That don’t ride with you when you’re not going good and for this audience right here and I could go down all the list and I’d forget somebody and I’d never want to do it but I just cannot thank all of you guys enough that have taken

Time to watch a show invited all of us into your car into your house into your dorm whatever ever it might be to uh check us out give us a chance and I and and sincerely from the bottom of my heart um of all the different people that I’ve

Been around that you could say are quote unquote fans and I don’t even like saying that word because I you’re not worthy of people like being your fan because we’re all the same but I think you know what I’m getting at here is is that I can’t tell you how much all of

You guys mean to me I I just can’t say thank you enough from the very very bottom of my heart I cannot thank you enough I’m going to ask you to stay with us here on the stuff that I’m doing I’m going to ask you to

Stay with Off the Bench I’m going to ask you to please continue to support everything the chatter boox is doing because this is a great place it’s a special place it’s about people who care about you know entertaining and having fun and presenting Sports in in a quirky

Way in a solid way in an analytical way in an off-the-wall whether it’s Chatterbox Reds Chatterbox Bearcats whatever it is please continue to support Chatterbox Sports because I know I am and can’t wait for what the future holds gentlemen it has been a pleasure and an honor pleasure’s been ours

Tom case you were with us from day one yeah sitting in the same spot since day one same spot same tired spot Trace thank you you got it Tom Elliot I got to read these two because they they drew Garrison true story I never followed the Reds much but I knew Tom he

Has been awesome to it has been awesome to see him and get to see the real Tom on a daily basis thank you very much sir boy your guy uh says thank you Tom I bu the hype of Tom be uh but yeah Tom thank you uh again I

Joined I joined the show about halfway through here I guess maybe a little bit more than that so thank you for having me buddy it’s been awesome to be on it with you thank you read thank you Tom my pleasure my man my pleasure all of you

Thank you we’ve got box lunch coming up uh so here we go time for box lunch have a great weekend

15 Comments

  1. I personally like hearing Thom everyday on the show, I'll keep listening and engaging with this channel no matter who's hosting. My favorite memory from this channel so far was meeting Thom and everyone else at the Chatterbox Reds night.

  2. Thom: I really did not like what you said in 2020 and I made plenty of jokes about it. But I have be honest: I have seriously enjoyed your time as a host of OTB. You and this show got me back into the Reds when I feel out of love with them in 2022. Haven't been able to watch as much the past few month, but I always try and watch when I get off work. I I hope that you get the biggest names in sports. Cheers!

  3. I'm sorry, but I love hearing Thom every day just like I did with his Dad with Joe Nuxhall. This is why I followed chatterbox.

  4. And don't get me wrong, I love Trace in the Cbox Reds, and I will still listen to it every day. And I will do some super chats in that.

  5. I love Thom! I WAS one of those people back in 2020 throwing up the memes and hating. Thom totally changed my mind about him and second chances in life.

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