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And search down Lane Podcast good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to down Lane podcast we are streaming live from the lab of town and country lanes I’m your host Kyle haes and with me is the assistant to the host Anthony ska it is chug I um I just chugged my uh strawberry milk I couldn’t remember
What kind of was welcome to the show everybody Austin how’s it going tonight I judging by our comment section things are firing it’s not going well someone I don’t even know where to be welcome Chris welcome Chloe welcome Nick welcome Nick from Canada welcome the other Nick welcome
To 10 back bowling what’s up gosh okay my name is Kyle Haynes and I’m your host for down L podcast to 10bs comment we hope the facts come out too um big goings on we’re just going to jump right into it um you’re not gonna ask me on my
Week no not yet uh well let’s just get L Hamilton is going to Ferrari in 2025 that is more important news is that real where my phone all right settle down um let’s just get right into it Brandon Novak Brandon Brandon Brandon Brandon b a
It is an a uh Brandon Novak uh is uh currently not in jail he’s not at the tournament um he made the cut but he was he was he was in the Cashers round could you imagine going through that grueling effing tournament what’s up Dave two-handed Beast what’s going on uh
Could you imagine being in the freaking mainfield of the US Open hey bud you gota you got to come with me US Marshalls show up to the house the bowling house the the bowling center lock you up and take you out incredible so that’s the word on the
Street um multiple uh multiple Witnesses got Insider information are you gonna say it no I just want Jeff to oh just comment hold on the 11th frame article did State all of the same things that we’ve heard um State the same things the that Facebook has has stated that
Witnesses eyewitnesses at the bowling center uh saw Brandon Novak removed from the center in handcuffs by US Marshals did he get a refund probably not I don’t think so no refunds issue by the USBC um so uh s some rumors that uthane was too soft I don’t think the US
Marshals are worried about UMD how’s it going uh worried about the hardness um that was good I just I was trying to find where you wrote something and I found it one thing one thing to mention uh that uh I I’ll uh touch I want well I
Want to give Jeff wles credit for making a connection is that back in 2022 Brandon was arrested in Ohio um I’m not sure what the actual charge was but he does have temp or or was issued temporary uh restraining and uh temporary protection orders so it is possible that he could have violated
Some sort of uh this and this is pure speculation but it is possible that he’s violated some sort of uh um parole agreement parole or um what’s the other one um the other P protection no when you’re not on parole you are on probation either probationary or parole
Order that says you couldn’t um uh how’ you guys not get I’m sorry couldn’t leave the county or couldn’t leave the state without permission maybe he never got permission something like that and the US Marshals came and swept them up because it’s pretty public P he’s in
Indiana at the moment or was um so that’s all I think most people know right now except probably the people that are on site um but uh yeah two-handed Beast maybe was fighting over Taylor Swift who knows I need another good and he’s always full of full of hot
Stuff I think I saw he had something related to property damage I think he ruined a ball return after a stone eight good one um it’s not Rob so anyway uh yeah who knows um what uh what the actual charge was but like Jeff rle said
It is possible that um has something to do with stemming from his old charges that’s a possibility um but if it’s US Marshals it’s got to be some sort of not local crime to play Federal yeah either federal crime or or the feds he left home without permission T possible t t Brendon
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Guys how was your week this week Anthony Austin who wants to go first uh I mean short and sweet bold L crap uh Thursday night B pretty good over the weekend you and I both poopy on Thursday um Monday night I thought I bowled fantastic didn’t score anything oh let me pause
You for one second I do want to let the guys know if anybody doesn’t have b tv we are watching it literally right now uh next to your comments so uh we can uh keep you a breast of anything that’s going on who the heck is that guy
Speaking of which uh we did just watch Richie t uh leave two 710s and make one of them so that was pretty sick what the freak is this guy wearing very true Andrew very true that’s Spencer robarge he what the freak is all that he copies Kyle troop that’s his that’s his thing
That’s what he likes to do I couldn’t imagine we in those I will say the first time I saw him he was in the full-blown USA outfit I don’t think I’m a fan of the the pants matching the shirt it just looks weird to me um all sorry uh I’m
Looking at Andrew’s comment talking to Austin Austin go ahead what how was your week this week you bold bad Thursday bold good on the weekend bold good on the weekend I thought I threw the ball very well Monday could not score anything which is okay I made all my
Spares besides a Greek church that’s I can’t be mad there um and mentally decided to not think about bowling till I walked in this building today yeah I was very not happy with the way Monday night went down Kyle’s fellow Zillow Stafford Jake Peters he’s on he’s
On the TV right now and uh Nick says that Kyle troop and his father were very unprofessional I guess it is unprofessional to wear that stuff back in the day but I mean I will say it’s pretty cool looking but I don’t like they want to be flashy yeah I don’t like
The pants though I don’t think I like the pants I mean I don’t mind if it’s a different color pants but if you’re wearing like a sweatsuit here oh they’re and the bowling head to-head right now troop versus Spencer robar but we in classic style right now uh no he’s got
Bottom he’s got some wings on his legs I don’t I don’t particularly that’s not me that’s not my style um I would just it would be better if it was just green pants um I don’t like the winged bottoms it doesn’t make him look like he’s going any faster so
It’s really not really gives him a little more RPM if you ask me it doesn’t look like it’s going any faster so and how was your week this week well I bowled Monday yeah no idea what I got okay can’t even remember how’d it feel felt pretty good on Monday felt real
Good oh somebody said I hope sweep the rack is watching rod from on open you the US Open channel oh I just thought that was funny okay um you should type in that’s in the other no we’re watching it incast uh I bow good Tuesday I think I shot 7:40 or
Something I don’t know I felt pretty good last night I didn’t feel I didn’t feel great um I don’t know I just didn’t feel the greatest but um we did bowl last Friday me Kyle our friend Nick Harris and meth fzone over at the town team tournament we also put up
2700 yes we put up 2700 270 for three games fourman team which isn’t bad I had 690 mat had 750 Kyle had 630 and Nick had like 6:30 um something like that so we bow pretty well there and I got a bowl tomorrow night too um so I’m really not sure how that’s
Going to go we’re bowling with Conor lir Nick Lucia and Matt again so we’ll see how that one goes hopefully we can bowl a little bit better um no offense to Kyler Nick you know I don’t want you guys to feel bad I I get I get that
We’re second fiddle I understand it’s fine I bold like you know extremely mediocre I never said that you no no it’s it’s fine it’s fine I was just saying they they asked meable um and you guys just stuffed urethane up the lane all day I get it and uh you mean around
The lane I get it I know I know I know but I was hooking more than you were okay not true but uh anyway kind of sort of close um maybe not that far but residential criminal defense attorney Pizza Wings welcome Pizza Wings in the house what he coming up with the
Goods eza wings uh but I B pretty good On th uh last Thursday I bow pretty good Friday night I got a bowl Friday we got a bowl tonight I’m hoping that I feel a little better I did get some new shoes um very happy with them I feel as if uh
I feel as if I just have a little bit more stability in the shoes but I also get lower to the ground because the shoes are a little bit more matching to my foot style so that’s been an issue because I think I’m getting a little too
Close to line I’m I’m getting on the lane too fast I’m hitting the foul line in my hand hand yeah dude you’re you’re getting on the lane real quick yeah but it’s like my hands down there yeah I just got to I think if I’m just a little
More upright it just gets it down the lane a little bit better just because I’m so good on my legs my legs are so strong right now I look like belmo just with longer arms you know so you guys you guys could judge that if you convinced Anthony to uh get some video
Of League I can’t even find my phone speaking of belmo uh he just shot 210 and uh Trevor Roberts has a he’s got a punch out to Wi got a punch out for a 23 Skippy scop how’s that hot tub baby uh so yeah so I bowled with you
Guys Friday night Thursday night if you watch tonight we bowl this week did not so go so well for me or Nick for that matter lot of bleeps yeah a lot the be bleep button where the chance he gets four R Kyle like a second and a half
Bleep in there yeah it was a lot of M Morse code I think they called it um so anyway uh yeah but Friday night uh I felt like I was bowling okay you know I I will say so I bowled Friday night at the town team tourn tournament and then
I bowled Sunday afternoon and it was kind of funny that I don’t know if it’s the lane surface or who we were bowling with or whatever but I felt like the ball was getting through the lane much better on Friday night than it was on Sunday like I could not get the ball
Down the lane on Sunday second shift on Sunday was there a shift I don’t know I don’t know what 2 o’cl in the afternoon there was a shift before so oh oh he likes it not good oh he didn’t he gave himself a thumbs up so
Maybe he’s happy with he tried his best Um B TV right now yes yes Skippy B TV go bowling.com um you gotta remember they can’t see it if they’re just listening yeah no I’m just sorry uh probably I would assume that the lanes were a little bit more drier in the mid Lanes or a little felt more drier because
Probably second shift will L you B on middle I think 11 and 12 I don’t like 11 12 13 14 I don’t think I prefer I like uh one and two every being said I B about 30 40 pins less than Friday night um I gotta be honest I think KY could
Have got steeper pardon Ste steeper I think he could have got steeper and you I kept moving every single frame I was moving every frame I did notice that but it was I the ball if I got it away it was gone so I was I was a little too
Nervous to go the last two games I played very steep with the angle Andrew Anderson there oh he is not wash out Andrew Anderson he’s not having a good day um all right so let’s talk about the the US Open since we’re uh we’re watching it live here we watching match
Play live on bow TV um trying to give a little live update as we talk about also the past performances of this week um if anybody can find my phone if you watching and you’re at the bowling alley bring Anthony his phone so I can see the
Standings uh 10 back bowling also says I have have trouble getting the ball to float through the fronts uh if I’m too far forward my legs get uh gassed faster too this games hurts so good uh sounds like you and me have the same exact problem you guys should be like
Friends um so uh so yeah um Us open this week was hard just like all the other years uh same exact patterns as last year too um which we which we talked about last week um Anthony talk about your disdain for these patterns and why you hate them so
Much I don’t know I mean you know I just don’t particularly care for the oneto one if some people aren’t familiar with one to one that’s how much oil is did he not strike on that last shot anyways uh it’s how much Andrew Anderson and EJ tacket are bowling head-to-head right
Now in match play EJ I thought flushed it anyways I do not particularly care for the flat patterns what flat means is there’s oil basically evenly distributed Ed throughout the entire Lane making it as hard as possible where topography sets into play and in the US Open
Literally it’s all one to one flat yeah the oil is that at least I don’t particularly care for it I think it uh it definitely makes you have to be pretty act Super Spot on but I don’t I guess I just don’t particularly care for how much topography would be see he did
He did throw go on the last one he looked back EJ tacket did um but no I don’t I don’t like red square 10 back bone I do not like that pattern I think it’s all topography based it depends on what you get um I think because there’s
So many games here does erase the topography because you get what 15 24 games Kyle uh phone 24 games yep for qualifying and then uh and then um if you make Cashers round that’s another round yeah just in qualifying in general I don’t three rounds qualifying as 24 games I don’t particularly care
For for that um just my opin opinion I’ve seen a lot of patterns that get like that and then it’s all topography based then it really depends on what pairs you’re hitting more or less versus your actual skill to read the lane and play how the lane is playing especially
With three days worth of patterns you can do a short medium long and give everybody the best opportunity um to score on their their their best condition and then obviously try to way to to uh grind your way in a in a in a pattern that you don’t particularly like
Um yeah I don’t know what they’re BL on right now Mark I don’t know this one with oil the eye pattern basically I’m not a huge fan of the eye pattern either so basically you just don’t want to see any pattern at the US Open no I just think the eye pattern’s
Silly I mean why are you g to put a two to two strip down Lane um the ball break yeah no it’s on the forward isn’t it I thought it was on the reverse I don’t haveone I can look at it real can’t look at it um I don’t particularly care for
That because the ball Breaks Loose you start ball motion and then your ball hits that big and starts going forward again yeah and then it start then it it breaks loose or it loses it its traction and theall S is on forward on the four
That’s what I thought um so I’m just not typically into all that so so the so it’s buffing that two to two on the back or on the forward on the back end of the lane yeah like like Sim I just watched him throw ball his ball definitely broke
Loose right at where the eye probably was the top of the pattern and just didn’t do the right thing it just kind of kept going um for me typically I do like to bow in those patterns actually though because my ball hooks in the oil basically no
Matter what um and I just get a ball that hooks super early and my ball for whatever reason my roll gets the ball to rev up in the mid lane I don’t know what the volume is on this because I can’t look at it because I lost my phone but
We can tell you it’s 28.9 so 29 Ms I mean I would try to just play where I got basically a urethane look where it hooks super early 500 grit that’s just my opinion usually that works pretty well for me um but I just don’t like the
One to ones too much I just think it’s kind of silly um we’ve got so much technology with the lane machines now especially because they’re using kegle Lane machines instead of the Brunswick ones so I don’t really understand the point of just oiling a block out there
And saying yeah that’s good um I know Kyle you think a little bit differently because you think of scoring Pace um but at the same time this isn’t golf to where there’s dog leg rights and this and that and this and that and this and that this is like you know you can
Create a pattern and make the guys play it but at the US Open I feel like it should be hard but it also should be available for everybody if this guy wants to play a little farther left he can if this guy wants to play a little
Straighter he can typically on the eye pattern I’ve noticed that guys who play a little more in and they don’t hit that spot where the pattern kind of comes up and then backs back out you know what I mean if they can stay more in the Middle
Where it just oil all the way through the reaction stays a little more steady it looks like Jake Peters and Kyle troop are doing that yeah they’re both playing left but the problem sft the headpin yeah the problem is is once you miss right on that it’s freaking gone so
That’s why I like to play a little straighter and just hit the head pin yeah stand back they haven’t had I haven’t seen a reverse block on any tournament is that when it comes profal tourn this way and goes that way yeah the outsides are oiled and the inside is
Quote unquote dry or less oiled yeah yeah but you know how hard that’s got to be well you’re basically playing the opposite part of the lane you can try to play up the outside but it basically goes straight so you’re playing the the bank shot I think or you
Can try to play the the Fade Away shot if they use less thumb things would be better I think believe it or not my best finish in a regional I was half thumbing it and it looks like Don Barrett today is really trying to get really on the ball
He’s coming from real far inside um and he was really trying to saw on that thing Marshall Kent front seven nin Spar it’s impressive yeah he’s bowling really good right now I wonder I can’t wait to watch him throw the ball and see where he’s playing but I just don’t
Particularly care he does like to throw it hard and straight normally yes yeah see and Zack Wilkins is super deep too I just don’t particularly like and no le right no gr F looks like he’s in it for he was in it yeah yeah um but yeah the
Lefties typically I think it becomes a little tougher because there is no breakdown for them while the righties have some sort of breakdown Le have oh yeah mat Sanders is too is mat Sanders is in there okay Matt Sanders and gr f are in there I don’t know Russo’s a
Lefty two-handed Lefty with a thumb though so technically it’s you know I don’t know but I I think it’s interesting I’m not fan of him Kyle I know that we had a big discussion because nice nice honest discussion last night but uh no I I my opinion is when
You’re bowling a ma a major um you know your scores should be low and is the Players Championship a major yeah that’s weird yeah and I we talked about on this show about how ridiculously high the scores were um but the PLAYERS Championship is also run by the
PBA um it’s weird that it’s you know so different drastic right um he is throwing it really nice uh Marshall Kent oh oh that was Marshall where did he throw it I missed it he’s throwing he threw a strike yeah I said where I don’t
Know um so anyway my my point is I believe that the score should be should be low uh and there’s nothing wrong so the the field the cut the main field cut um to get into the Cashers round uh the average was right at 200 and I don’t
Believe that there’s anything wrong with that number was it a struggle to get there absolutely I don’t mind the low scores I don’t agree with the patterns I think there’s another way to achieve it do you think that if the if the pattern is openly playable to be in any location
It’s going to be that low do you think that I’m not saying that it has to be available on every location I said in the three days of qualifying I would like to see a short medium long okay give them the best chance to have their day be able to okay so well
They did do short medium long yeah but not one I don’t like one to one I think it’s stupid why because because it’s not I understand the topography aspect but topography and I think Mark also said foll so all the PBA guys cry about Squad inequity which I didn’t look because I
Don’t have my phone let G say it again I didn’t check the SC St yeah we get it it was pretty close should we put a phone counter on yeah right hilarious ding but if it’s going to be I you I understand that there is how people play them changes how they are
But if it’s more like if it’s if there’s too much to where it’s so reliant on how they play from the people that you B on before them and then you go to another parent it’s completely different then it’s kind of like well what the heck
Yeah and there’s no strategy to play in the lane it’s basically hey throw it down the middle and just see what happens because in all honesty that’s probably what I would do I know I’m not that good Jason teal says everybody struggled except Simo for the second
Year in a row but I don’t know that I would consider averaging 200 on this stuff a struggle like to me again I would say averaging 200 out there is a really really good day um so or a good week I should say because they B for
Three days in qualifying um now what’s interesting is the scores went down in the Cashers round except for Simo he’s the only one that his average one up um so I don’t know why this usually they I thought that they tend to bll pretty good on this pattern I know it’s a
Tricky pattern we’ bowled on this or something like it with the bump speed bump but they’re gonna get nothing but better because they bow on at the rest of the time rest of the tournament yeah it just keeps going um so the scores are definitely going to go up the next next
Blocks but I just don’t remember their scores going down before um and I I uh was surprised to see that in the Cashers right round um but anyway that being said uh I just think there’s nothing wrong with having scores be low quote unquote in my you know to put quotes on
It uh because um back in the day you know I tried to look up past history beyond what the USBC has on their website because I wanted to know you know what did the guys in the 70s and 80s score um at the US Open or Masters
Or or whatever um just as a point of reference not because I want the game to be like the old days just curious um listen here Boomer I’m not that old yet dude um act like a boomer to me I just wanted to know uh and I agree Jack papow not
Supposed to be easy it doesn’t have to be easy but it doesn’t have to be flat there’s no point 1.1 next time it just doesn’t make sense like one to one is just silly like that doesn’t make sense I mean I’m not saying that these lanes are perfect there’s no lanes that are
Perfect and I I 100% agree with that but my guess is that these lanes are pretty darn good they’re not like the place and I’m not going to mention the name that we went to in the past where they were visibly because they were warped visibly
They were like it was like walking down a sidewalk yeah you know what I mean like you could see the ball go up and down the roller coaster I just don’t think that one to one is the op I don’t think it’s the Holy Grail I think the
USBC didn’t know what to do this year so they just left it the same well I don’t think that the reason I bet you they had patterns picked I just think that they made really they didn’t have the Masters pattern picked till 20 minutes before no they had patterns and this is their
Their their procedure which we learned was they have patterns and then the week before they B on it information for you too um and then they uh they Bowl on the patterns and they test them out on those Lane surfaces and then they pick them right before all right so Mark Taylor
Says when the tournament was at carier in the late 2000s the cut was about minus 50 or so for 18 games with the 500 person field 27 game Casher what cut was about plus uh 180 what was that number though for out of 500 what was the cut
Like uh because this year it’s 36 um so I assume out of 500 it didn’t go down to 36 so that’s what I’m curious about be more right I would think that’s what I was um see ask Joey if my if my phone’s in the bar he’s listening so he’ll let Joe my
Phone in the bar um so anyway uh t one and four so that that they had to have they what’s that they took 100 if I had my phone I would 125 they took at of the first cut yeah so extrapolate that out top 36 would be probably
Two higher I’m guessing they probably average two 10 or 220 at least so what’s that 210 a game um out of 24 games 27 games hypothetical math Kyle I’m trying to do it in my head6 a game for top 25 says you just said it was 210 up hi Andrew Hall it’s
Great to see Andrew Hall what’s up buddy um so Andrew Hall says I think changing the order of the patterns caused the scorers to lower a bit for qualifying compared to last last year having the having to press the last day on that 49 foot impossible is somehow
Worse and pressing on the other two patterns good uh good note from Andrew Hall our friend PBA friend Rookie of the Year nominee um thanks for chiming in Andrew thanks for watching tonight um and uh good luck out there week in and week out bowling on the tour um what’s up Jack papat
DLP needs to be sponsored by find my [Laughter] phone um all right so we got uh we’re watching here Marshall Kent just shot 267 giant G no not real open um he nine nine missed the last shot in the 10th uh which is not
Inow do uh so not good he did not make a match play um but he bowled good today so we did pick a bunch of guys right so so just wanted to throw this out there Simo is now 255 pins in the lead it’s not
Enough all right so he had a 154 that game for a loss so last week we we each of us picked uh like a top five uh uh of who we thought would do the best did we write it down or anything nope I I kind
Of remember is I remember a couple of who I picked because Kyle Kyle texted our group chat who’s the top five again so hang on before we get into it don’t forget to like subscribe click the Bell to get alerts from the channel head to our Etsy Shop uh check out those shirts
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Of the show Billy o is on the stream right now who’s he bowling against your friend Jake Peters Jake Peters all right so Kyle texted the DLP group chat yeah uh the First first day of tournament and said that you are look at Anderson and I said now hold on
A second Kyle who’s leading because I’m fairly positive last week I said something about Sam [ __ ] yeah being up there yeah he did yeah and also Jason’s St I said well first of all I asked Austin for any other futuristic advice because he’s a freaking it’s only
Bowling I can’t trust me I’d be rich I don’t know how he picks these guys out of no I mean listen because you guys think too hard these guys are all good obviously I mean I’ll say Kyle thinks too hard Anthony just Pi he’s like me he
Just picks but you did you did say Sterner was gonna have a we good week where that came from I have no idea but he’s in match play right now sometimes you just gotta believe I guess so uh you said Sam coie was gonna have a good week
Boom he’s there who else did you pick anybody else off the top of your head uh move through the list Chris V you did say Chris he’s not there not very well I don’t think I did pick Simo that was obviously an easy pick I picked EJ that’s easy they’re both there picked
Easy yeah but I mean you have to pick them they’re there um one of you picked troop I think I might have said something about Don Barrett um might have to watch the VOD for you picked Peters I also picked Peters you pick Don Barrett I usually usually or are you thinking of
Dumbrowski no dumbrowski was like my my long shot okay oh long shot someone probably brought up dhy um not me no he doesn’t have a thumb so can’t be someone had usually I pick Barrett Barrett’s usually always one of my picks because I like his game who
Else did I pick I didn’t oh I picked the I picked T of course I don’t think I picked the Lefty I don’t think I picked the Lefty Kyle I I picked Billy o that was an easy pick oh no you couldn’t because you could uh Parker and bull
Yeah I picked Parker bone but he that’s right he wasn’t on the lineup that’s right he wasn’t on the card um but yeah it’s uh it’s been a interesting week for our picks for sure but yeah Simo and ejr obvious easy picks so uh I’ll just uh rattle off some current
Standings right now during match play um Simo obviously in first you said he’s leading by a couple hundred pins he lost pins too that game lost a lot he shot 154 for a loss he did um who’s in second bil Billy huge game 279 with the win wait Billy O’s in second
Kyle troops in third he’s GNA have 258 this game dude Bilo’s charging for the lead right now maybe he went to 16 pounds uh let’s see we got uh belmo in fourth uh do we have a score on belmo anywhere oh we can’t see it um he’s
Hooking the nuts off it say yeah belmo scores after belmo scores has have gone down he’s he went 240 250 180 2 210 EJ has not slowed down after the first game 270 230 230 240 um Billy is locked he’s walking off shots he is locked right now and Billy I
Believe is the only W five and0 he is he’s the only one five and0 he’ll be six and0 after this game it’s true too no he’s already won uh 10 back says he’s taking Dom for the W he’s got a lot of ground to make up
Right now I like I like Dom’s game he lost his last match with 2 I’m locking it in I’m taking [ __ ] who the heck was that guy he like can we time out real quick um we always time out for you can we talk about this B new b tv scoring I
Don’t know if any of our viewers watch B TV at all but they put this new scoring in where they’re not they used to put cameras up on the the scoring monitors right and it would track the actual scores but now what they do is they keep a running
Tally of the um oh that one was not a good one grab that one billio um I think he knows it’ll be okay he shakes off his head like it’s a big deal he’s got the game by a I mean listen I know he wants
To go for the the top seed against or over Simo but like listen you lost 10 pins like it’s not a big deal um I know how I would be but all right so um so it keeps running tally and it does not give you a running total for the game against
The other player which any bowler that’s watching would be able to figure it out but for any nonchalant bowler that doesn’t really know scoring all that well would probably have a hard time doing that um so I just don’t like how do you know that’s that that’s the monitors it’s not
The monitors this is the b tv scoring that they just created that’s what I would assume yes this is what I’m saying they just they just implemented the scoring this week looks good it looks nice I just don’t like that it doesn’t tell you the total of the game until the
End um I think we got a position for Kyle to be in charge of B dude I would rock it but they don’t have money um so Dan asks uh is ball weight ever a a differentiator when it comes to different oil patterns that’s a good question depends if you’re on Duck pin
Or pen pin um I would say that depending on the level that you’re at uh and how much you can afford in bowling balls um I would use the same weight every time yeah well there are certain guys that or most guys would agree with you I think but I think
There are some guys that actually do change um depending on the lane pattern so now would you think that on that one to one pattern would a 16 pound ball want to deflect less than a 15 pound ball well yeah and it changes directions less too yeah it’ll roll smoother it
Won’t flip as hard so that’s definitely a differentiator right there so what you’re saying is load my weights up in my ball with a ton of thumb weight um I think sterer just doubled in the 10th to win I gotta get rid of this to see if
I’m right by the way 10 back is taking Dom for the dub did we mention that yeah I did yeah well he needs seven he needs eight here maybe maybe for some of these guy can shoot Kyle we should we should work on it for our fans here
Maybe have like a uh a voting poll put a poll out there yeah who is that guy he looks like freaking a goose or something throwing the ball he’s so long goose well he’s just long and lanky oh he needs he needs this one here to beat Simo he needs this one here
Simon’s got 216 if Robert strikes he’s gonna have 23 and all he’s goingon to need is four pins to win if I can read math yes he would have 223 strikes out sterer looks like he’s going wait no [ __ ] can I think belmo can win here yeah he needs a needs a double
Needs a Dule I will say all the screen changing is killing me Landon Jordan had a good week whoever the frak that is that’s exactly why I brought him up there’s a lot of uh new players he’s a young gun um and there was a junior player
That made uh that made the Cashers round as well um let me find his name it was is that in Jordan no no uh sorry stand by Bobby Hab habetler Bobby gadch from Illinois so uh yeah congratulations to Bobby G from Illinois all of his money goes into his smart
Account um all right so who is our pick for the top seed is Simo going to hold on here for two more rounds or are we gonna have a change of leadership I don’t even know who’s in the field right now come on I mean the
Way it’s tough the way I see Billy o scores going I think Billy o catches him nah s’s just gonna be your one seed it’s too it’s too hard to catch him that far out I know is it 30 pins bonus pins yeah there’s two more rounds 30 pins bonus
Two more round and he’s 200 up and lost he lost 100 pins last game to Bilo who oh is that the kid right there the little the little guy the little baby yep there he is Jordan um I don’t know how much how much is he
Down uh three 255 and for two games he’s gonna make 255 p no two rounds there’s two more rounds oh rounds not games nah I don’t I don’t think it happens I think [ __ ] uh Simo figures out how to play him the right way I think this round for him
Is kind of more of just like a you know let me see see where I’m at let me see how I’m doing uh keep it moving doing my thing so that way he can figure out how he wants to play the lanes for the next two rounds I think the next two rounds
Are going to be more uh crucial especially as scores are going to go up I think he’s probably just get gonna get with his ball rep and he likes to drill a lot of bowling ball so I think he’s going to drill a lot right after this
Round to get himself set up for the next two um and then we’ll have to see what happens from there but I really I do foresee uh Simon son being able to pick up his game in the next two rounds to either match Bill O’Neal um but Bill
O’Neal’s pace is going to have to be kind of unbelievable to really catch up with him so which he’s not unfamiliar with no I’m not saying that he can’t do it I just think that the best the Simo because he’s so far ahead once he figures out the lanes a little bit and
Gets with his ball reps and drills a few more balls for the next two rounds I think that bill O’Neal’s pace is gonna be have to be so high to catch up I think it’s just Simonson is just GNA have enough he might just need to go
Into the ice bath and cool his head off oh there they’re that’s right they can’t drill balls they’re limited to 10 but are they allowed to switch every round though I thought they were able to switch every round well in the you now I’ll have to go back and read the rules
Or Mark and correct me but usually after the qualifying rounds they can switch it up um is this technically a qualifying no this is match play now so it becomes a different round of match play every time no I’m saying what I’m saying is usually after match or after qualifying
You can reset right right start over but then you’re locked again then you’re locked for the rest of the time yeah I believe so um I mean I got to be honest the only thing he should have to figure out is uh how they’re going to play different being one-on-one matches
Because he absolutely crushed it when they were qualifying on this pattern I could see that there’s a lot less Lane transition qualifying block on this pattern yeah the the Cashers round qualifying yeah I could totally see that they’re not gonna transition nearly as much just because there’s less players
Out there right and also this is the first time they B on this pattern right this year so I mean we’ll have to see just before the Cashers round but they made their choices and have to live with them they had two hours of practice on the match play pattern before cash round
I’m sure that he’ll get with his ball reps regardless and they’ll change some surfaces and get stuff in order um I don’t foresee him being really caught EJ front four against Sam kie right now and Sam ky’s got it open that’s just my opinion I think Sim’s just he’s that
Good to where if you’re if you’re two ball behind two balls behind or too much behind it’s gonna be a a lot hard and like to make it up and like uh Tom Clark and like Tom Clark has said in the past uh Simo is a chameleon like he can just
Change like he just can change on the fly to do whatever he needs to to make it work um 10 back says just looked at Dom’s first three of match play is it too late to change my pick because he said Dom was gonna get the w
There’s a lot 170 170 160 211 230 so I mean it’s going back the other way they got they got other game they got other rounds to go all right so why don’t we uh um while these guys are starting their next rounds of uh not next rounds
Next a couple games of match play here by the way simson’s got a double so it’s game seven if he can turn on now and keep himself up a little bit I just don’t foresee if he figures out the fresh I don’t foresee these guys catching them I don’t why don’t we
Um uh get to a listener question here um that I did not prepare you for but here we go and I I uh it’s a little bit of a tough one because we don’t know um prepared exactly this person’s uh um role and whatnot but this is M wheel
What up wheel and uh wheel he said uh recently we were talking about um a well-rounded Arsenal um and uh he had a question and he said yes I know the Arsenal of a big Asim big Sim and down from there um but what are your thoughts on layouts for a well-rounded Arsenal
How do you approach which are Benchmark continuous control long and strong Etc layouts for the Arsenal so he wants layouts for the Arsenal yeah and I assume where we’re going to start or not start but what we’re going to have to say is it doesn’t necessarily um whoa Kyle troop almost chopped a
Three6 1356 yeah came out of the back it looked like um anyway so uh yeah it uh it’s it’s going to have to depend on you know his specific role and what the balls are and all that good stuff but um maybe we don’t talk specifically about
Numbers because uh every drill angle or buffer system whatever your approp operator uses we talk about we could just talk about in general what type of layout you would use where it’s be more of a match layout versus you know more of a pin low pin middle right we could
Talk about that a little bit more try to squeak around the question yeah that’s what I mean yeah is he a storm guy is he a guy didn’t say um I mean it’s definitely a tough question but he did say that he loves the show oh it’s Lefty Mike from PA
That’s right Lefty Mike Lefty Mike what up Lefty Mike um first of all if you don’t have a purple Hammer you got to go get one well is this a tournament bag Arsenal or just an Arsenal well just said well at Arsenal but I you know if
You’re going to go bow tournaments um or or something that’s not in the house shot typically I would 100% yes Pizza Wings fantastic layout that’s my go-to 4.2 um I would say You’re Gonna Want a purple Hammer if you’re bowling yes um you’re going to want a
Purple hammer in there um if if you’re going to bowl some tournaments um just because that ball is a really good control piece um but we we’ll stick with just a regular Arsenal without the purple just to to to chat I would say you’re going to want a spare ball would
You agree unless you can double the urethane ball as a spare ball which is what I do s’s got the front Five Guys will quick uh never be afraid to send a shot video with your email question no that’s not a bad idea yeah yeah um unless you’re Pizza Wings we
Don’t want to see you Jesus that’s aggressive wow now you hate me Pizza Wings I think angry he um a lot of a lot of stuff so we like the big a Sims typically um for me uh in my layout I am a left-hander but I like to
Hook it a little bit more than some of the other left left-handers um absolutely so for me uh my my Benchmark layout on most of my equipment is 50 by 4 and a quar by 40 um that puts my angle sums which are the first angle and the
Other angle at like 1.2 or something like that 1.1 typically when your your two ra your your front angle and your back angle are close closer together in the same number it’s going to be more of a steady reading more uh mellow type ball reaction um so for me I like to use
A lot of that um in some of my Benchmark pieces so I have a theorum and a Defender and an Envy tour that are all at that layout are you okay KY I’m just trying to see what this guy’s using and so I like to use those three balls at a
Benchmark layout it gives me something that’s a that’s a big asym I’ve got a a shiny uh a shiny asymmetric and then I have a low diff asymmetric and that kind of keeps me um in that realm of what I’m looking for for there so most of my
Layouts back in even last year all of my asymmetrical layouts were basically the same thing 50 by4 and a quar by 40 and I let the ball mechanics do its thing um that’s but that’s my Benchmark layout now I do have some balls that have Quick Response layouts and typically um the
The layout that I use for that is 50 by4 and 3/4 by 25 um those are some pretty strong angles um but what it is is the ratio on that one um for it’s 2 to one so 50 and 25 so it’s half um typically when your
Drill angle is two times more than your Val or your your your yeah your valal angle your back angle that’ll typically give you a little bit more of a quicker response type uh type reaction and typically what I use that for is when I’m going onto the long stuff or there’s
A ton of volume straight sorry about that go through the face so that’s what I use for my quick response layouts and then I use uh 5 by 30 for my symmetrical and then uh my symmetrical just because I can lower the flare because my ball
Reads the middles a lot um and the 30 kind of make sure that when we are on some volume it does it does dig a little bit more and then my last layout is my pin down layout it’s 45 by 4 and a half by 60 um I use that on symmetrical and
Asymmetrical to get me closer to the friction and something that’s a little bit more rounded so hopefully that wasn’t too much gibberish and people glaze their eyes over but if you’re going to pick a six ball Arsenal I would typically have um a a big asymmetric
That is either going to be pinned down so that way you can get something that retains a little more energy but that big cover will just kind of tumble through it so that way it doesn’t burn up and dig too much in the mid lane just
Because a lot of the lane surfaces are older um you don’t always need those big balls pin up because they dig too much in the front part of the front part of the lane that ball will die out a little bit quicker so I’m using a 45 by 4 and a
Half by 65 on my mindset my OG mindset that ball tumbles really well we were on 40 feet last night it kept me a little Clos to the friction and didn’t overreact if you remember that one um then if I had to pick ball number two it
Rolled good yesterday if I had to pick ball number two for an asymmetrical that’s shiny I’m gonna use my uh I’m going to use my theorem that Ball’s extremely good right now um you can barely even get that ball I know it’s great um that Ball’s got a lot of back
End it’s a little cleaner Jo really good too Joey D and his is pinned down but um I used by 55 by four and a quarter by 40 on that that gives me a little more side roll it gives me a little more dig in the mid lane but it’s not going to
Overreact because the the valal is a little higher so that’s going to be my Benchmark layout through seven frames Simon’s got seven and this guy David croll I think he’s using a widow ghost going for 28 so this is a heck of a mastero made 30
Pins last game looks like it’s in um anyways so those are the two that I would start off with I would start off with a mindset with that pin down um and then I would use a theorem that is more bench Marky that that layout there 50 by
Four and a quarter by 40 for my e theorum and 45 by 4 and a half by 65 for my mindset so that is hilarious Pizza Wings so those are the two anybody listening you got to watch on YouTube because uh only just for pizza’s comments I mean he’s
Just followers that yeah they just got some serious comments all right sorry go ahead so then we’re gonna probably for me I’m gonna work my way into the symmetrical part of my my bag and if I had to pick something if I would pick probably I don’t know if I’m just going
To an event I’m probably gonna pick a troublemaker or a gb2 solid those two are my go-tos um if I don’t know the pattern I’m probably going to take a gb2 because it is pinned down it’s a little cleaner and I like to use a little bit of surface so
I can always get that break point closer to me the Troublemaker for me it digs so much in the mid lane because of the layout it’s 5 by3 um I don’t typically need to use that one unless I’m on some sport stuff or the PVA patterns because there’s so
Much volume out there so that’s where that ball will come into play if I’m just traveling around I’d probably take a gb2 um just because it’s a little bit more versatile and I can add some surface to it if I need a little bit more thanks Ron thanks Ronald okay so
Now I’m into ball number four um after that it is an interesting pick here um I honestly would probably just take a second theorem I am going to be drilling a second theorem a little bit differently because I think that Ball’s fantastic but if I can’t choose another theorem probably going to go
With a gb4 hybrid um that ball has been really good for me that is my 5×3 when we get on to the sport patterns it is a little bit uh it is a little bit boomy when I get into something that’s a little bit more tapered B TV just did
The uh the roaming camera 300 Jinx okay yeah sorry Simo yep so anyways I’d go to a 5×3 gb4 for my shiny ball um I do like that one um especially when we go away and there’s a lot of oil in the fronts on the sport pattern that’s pretty good
For me uh and then if I have a wild card ball I’m I mean I’m probably gonna bring purple Hammer you never leave home without hmer not um if I’m not I gonna say that better not be your wild card no it’s it’s not my wild card you know I if I’m
Going somewhere I’m gonna take it um I’ll stay away from your the PBA event unless is a PBA event then I’ll go with my black hammer two balls that I’m I’m really uh starting to figure out and starting to like are the new blue Hammer
Um that is my urethane layout so uh bear with me because that one is three and a half by 15 on the new blue Hammer um that ball Ru is really good for me it I’ve gotten it really close to purple you can ask Kyle it’s just a little bit
More down Lane I’ve gotten really good with that ball and then the other ball that I the three balls that I would bring are a new blue Hammer not bring but I would consider new blue Hammer um the purple hammer or the black hammer depending on the event and then I would
Also think about a scorpion low flare I drilled that one last night I do seem to like that quite a bit it’s very whippy I guess that’s what it’s supposed to do though right it’s a it’s a it’s not supposed to be super whippy it’s supposed to be a little bit more
Benchmarking and smoother because it is a low differential Ball but because it’s got a smaller uh simonon just n pin after that Andrew did mention n pin eight pin that scorpion low flares look good I think I have obviously I just threw it last night on 40 feet and of
Course it hooked quite a bit I’d like to see what it does on a little bit more volume it probably going to need a little bit more surface but that’s like the gb2 I feel like I can add a little bit more surface and get away with it um
So for layout wise you want so back to that um yeah I didn’t think it was too whippy um it was a little bit a little bit jumpy sometimes but it wasn’t overall too bad I think it mellowed out as I threw it probably if it if it got
It was it was that your first time throwing it yeah okay so if it didn’t have any uh shine on it or uh yeah it’s definitely but the first time the first few balls that I saw you throw it looked like it was pretty quick off the but the
Back ends are clean too yeah I don’t know if that ball is kind of like a fresh ball I’d have to see where it’s going to fit in but um I would probably use stuff like that and layout wise like I said you’re going to use something
That’s got ratios that are closer to match on your bigger bowling balls and then you’re going to have some balls that are going to have some for me at least I use five inch pins um if you are a little bit rev deficient use some
Closer pins four and a half four and a quarter um if you’re rev deficient I’m about 420 on the Rev rate Spectrum um what’s my rotation is like 45 degrees and then my my tilt is like 27 so I like balls that kind of dig a little bit more
In the mid lane because of my tilt but it can’t be too crazy um so like I said ratios are a little bit more matched on two balls then you want some that probably have uh you know that half that two to one where it’s 50 by 25 you want
One or two of those in there and then you want some other ones just kind of mix into kind of balls you like um and some some trusty layouts as you like um just make sure you’re comfortable as long as you like the ball reaction that’s all it really matters um but
Those are my layouts hopefully because it’s on podcast you can rewind and go through and kind of listen to what I said again because I’m sure it was probably not explained the best because it was off the top of my head thanks God for not preparing me um but hopefully it
Was uh pretty all right but I do like a lot of the lower flaring equipment um I don’t typically like stuff in the fives I usually like all the Bing balls that are in the fours hence why I like a troublemaker gb2 gb4 scorpion low flar is a 3-1 um the
Only ball that has like 050 diff for me that is in my bag is probably that mindset for me I like the not as strong diff balls does that make sense did I explain it okay I was trying not to listen so for example Kyle’s probably going to
Use some more matched layout just because he’s so far up the back we got to retain a little bit more energy I’m working on that though so I don’t know why because we finally are getting something done with your layouts where your balls are rolling really well and
Of course fig change it yeah I know I watched last night the ball went four feet further than it normally does that was just at the beginning I was messing around right relax did you watch the end no don’t it really good okay that’s good
Um I see it on your videos every day so anyways uh Kyle uses some some more matched layouts um Austin is also he’s actually for Austin he likes longer pins and he also likes bowling balls that have a higher higher valal so we’re talking 50 plus because his rev rate is
So high the 50s retain a little more energy create a little longer hook zone for him they don’t dig in the fronts as heavily but he doesn’t really need that because his rev rate and his rotation are his rev rate’s pretty high and his rotation is very strong it’s it’s pretty
Not sideways sideways but he’s got a good Ro he rotates it pretty good so he doesn’t need the ball to really go crazy hold the phone Pizza Wings has an actual comment Anthony doesn’t have his phone though and a real question I know what those are we can’t hold the phone can’t
Hold my phone Joey hold Anthony’s phone Pizza Wings wants to know cover stock on Widow 3.0 compared to the mindset um yes Mark I agree a has a great release hence why we use longer valal angles so he doesn’t get the ball the corner too hard down Lane because
Then it picks up and goes a little too forward um Pizza Wings cover stock on the Widow 3.0 compared to the mindset um so the the Black Widow is the hk22 aggression solid and then the mindset is like the evolution solid um from Brunswick so typically out of the normal
Base that they use for those um the the evolution cover stock I believe that’s what it is called um for the mindset is typically a lot stronger um in the front part of the lane it’s typically the strongest cover that they use they don’t really have a stronger
One it’s on all the quantum lines it’s on the mindset lines um that Ball’s probably going to pick up in the fronts a lot stronger Bill O’Neal with another possible 250 game here if he strikes he might catch him and he’s got a he’s locked 250 If he if heow 3.0 what did
Simo end up with uh 250 also with the win so Black Widow is the aggression solid with the hk22 the new cover base uh the new base resin that they’re using for these balls typically what I see out of the aggression cover stock without the hk22 uh base is typically the aggression
Cover is a little bit weaker it’s a little bit cleaner um I think the the core on that ball is a little bit more rolly especially for me and because it’s so high flaring it typ typically just tumbles so I think you get a little bit more continuation from your widow um
From the core versus the mindset where the mindsets a little bit more tumbling forward and then with the covers on it the evolution just the evolution cover on the mindset is stronger so it’s going to give you even more tumble even more that early read when there’s a ton of
Volume on the lane I think the aggression cover with the hk22 is stronger than the original aggression cover stock if that makes sense but with the new base of hk22 I typically find that those balls adhere to the Lane a lot more which is weird to say but they
Grab the lane differently so I would say that the covers are probably a little bit closer than they used to be just because of the the cover base on the 3.0 um the the hk22 stuff aderes and it responds to friction quicker and it doesn’t really mask it doesn’t really go
Down the lane as far on the solid pieces versus the shiny the shiny gets super far down Lane but as soon as they put a solid partic or solid additive in it those balls really pick up the front par Lane um think about Envision Pearl yeah comes maded
Though that ball picks up super early yes um I’m trying to think of what other balls do but I watched Bill O’Neal and his was pretty tumbly too it wasn’t really super sideways um so I think that they are a little bit closer now with the hk22 base in the aggression solid
Cover so I think those balls are a little bit closer than what they originally were if you’re looking for something that’s a little cleaner that rolls a little bit more down Lane but you still want that solid you’re going to want to go with the 2.0 if you’re
Thinking for just you want more most overall motion most overall the better ability to handle oil you’re gonna go with 3.0 um wow Pizza Wings makes a big thing right there he says I should be the host no he’s the uh commentator and I’m the host I drive all right typically s
Down pizza usually I drive stick to your uh comedy all right pizza geez yeah so that’s that’s what I would say for those balls I have drilled a few 3.0 they are they are widows they the motion’s pretty similar I just think that it handles a
Little bit more oil so those balls are a little closer while the 2.0 is a step down and then obviously the 2.0 hybrid is the cleanest and the most responsive to friction um downland that’s that’s my personal opinion did I answer that question that was unbelievable Dave thanks for checking in
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