Harbaugh wants multiple championships for Chargers, hopes for Herbert too high? | NFL | SPEAK

The Los Angeles Chargers hired Jim Harbaugh as their next coach, who went on to say that his goal is to ‘win multiple championships’. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy discuss if the expectations are too high on the Chargers and their QB Justin Herbert.

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Hoodie James is back before we address this Jim harau know it’s good to see in the hoodie yes sir good to see he started the show off all crazy I what that she got stuff we got on you know what I’m saying here’s a problem we offered James Jones a crazy

Work hoodie during the break to change into he aggressively vetoed it to put on a neutral hoodie I don’t know why the only reason why I did that is these crazy work hoodies is hot out here right now they hot so everybody been asking me

I need a crazy work Hood so I didn’t want to toss it all stank it all up and be like here go crazy work I’m looking out for other people cuz he ain’t get no crazy work takes the day so we going put this away until he

Say some he earn it earing and and I don’t and I don’t know your homies and they not wearing my star crazy uh let’s get back to Jim Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh said he expects championships from Justin Herbert shady I think that that is way too lofty of a goal I’m thinking about

It Herbert hasn’t won any thing not yet no not just at the NFL level let’s talk about Herbert’s draft class for a minute because I wanted to do enough homework to go and do a deep dive Joe burrow won a national championship to Tong of aloa won a

National championship Jaylen Herz won a national championship but Justin Herbert even in college where if you’re a quarterback you can win think about the quarterbacks in the college football playoff this year JJ McCarthy first round pick Michael penck supposed to be a first- round pick Quinn yers next year supposed

To be a first- round pick so if you are a quarterback in college you can win okay so in college you don’t win in college you are the least winning quarterback of your draft class of your peers then you get to the NFL let’s look at those same peers Joe burrow gets

Drafted ahead of you so he goes to a worst team goes to a Super Bowl Jaylen HZ is a second round pick he wasn’t even a starter he was a gadget quarterback goes to a Super Bowl Tu Tunga baloa leads his team to the playoffs two years

And you’ve gone to the playoffs once so in college you weren’t a winner in the pros you weren’t a winner and now har talking about winning championships plural oh them hopes is too high for me to5 what do you say I didn’t go back to high school by

The way in high school he also didn’t even win state I didn’t want to go back to high school I’m just saying after he killed him he the last team to make sure he was theread just like he is not breathing he’s done bro I

Mean I I like Herbert of course and and I gotta disagree with you I think the the praise is is deserve right cuz out all them quarterbacks you named he might not be the best but I think he’s the the best fit the most Talent out of all them

Guys would you agree sure he’s the most talented all them dudes yes physical Talent yes whatever so I think with a coach like Harbaugh he’ll have a shot I’ve watched Harbaugh take Callum Kaepernick to the Super Bowl and you know how he played as a quarterback so I think he has a chance

With Herbert he’s the most talented all the quarterbacks he can make the the best throws of all the quarterbacks he got a chance championships I mean I mean he’s in a division with Patrick Mahomes none of them D is going to be winning championships you know what I’m saying

Keep it real it’s like nobody really should even play for real yeah so they playing they playing around this game so I’mma play the game with them but I just feel like none of them guys winning trips like that we might have one still here and there but overall Patty gonna

Be running that thing it’s the new Tom Brady it’s the new Pat Patrick Mahomes air I mean used what’s he supposed to go up there and say yeah you know I don’t I don’t like when people get crazy czy with it and I don’t like when we get

Crazy with it oh superow contenders now no I’m not going to do all that let let them play a little bit see how it works you know give him some time to adjust I don’t need to jump into all of that but everything you said about Herbert is

True yeah he he dang I just read the facts it is facts no one can argue he go to the funeral to make sure he G oh man T what’s wrong with this dude he I mean is he still breathing like um but that one is a winner yeah

That’s true so the hope is that Harbaugh’s really high level of winning and excellence and resume and reputation and facts can overcome all the facts that you just read about Justin Herbert because at the end of the day that’s the reason why he picked this job Herbert is

The reason he took this job cuz he’s going to have control cuz ain’t none of the Chargers can walk into a room and say it Harbaugh other than we own the team cool good luck with that how’s that going for you well coach you on now with

Your Young quarterback love that for you call me when you want a real one so I I actually think that this is a fair estimation for for Harbaugh for Herbert it sounds crazy you haven’t even won a playoff game and you were going up against Trevor Lawrence right so you had

An opportunity there so I I don’t I mean he’s at a press conference he’s supposed to say things to get people fired up obviously multiple championships is a let’s start with one let’s start with the playoff win but it’s harau so I understand why he has that confidence

Yeah and I agree with him listen my man’s excited right my man’s excited he out here in la la land right got the mic he’s the best quarterback that he has ever coached in his coaching career yes I don’t care if you’re talking Andrew Luck I don’t care who you talk he’s the

Best quarterback yes he’s the best quarterback Andrew Luck walked in and started winning Andre Luck Andrew Luck walked in and started winning we need to get outle walked in and started winning talking with what Justin Herbert is at the talent at the quarterback spot is this

What luck is more talented yes bro yes yes he had a stronger arm he’s just as good a processor he could run just as well tough as Nails super tough he played with he play they play like elated kidney or something what does that even mean we saying this dude got

Is a better Andrew Luck have 40 tugs bro and 16 PS don’t give him don’t let him get my hoodie my hoodie is he crazy wait can we just get past can we just put it in the safe place bro crazy what’s wrong with this now we talking like 11 and5 11 and

5 11 and five Andrew Luck’s first three years I’m cool with the wins when we’re talking at the talent at the quarterback spot you guys are going to sit here and say Andrew Luck is better than herh and his arm is better and all no sir no sir

But anyway best quarterback that he has ever coached man this is the best quarterback that he has ever coached so if I know this is the best quarterback yeah that’s a little something in there do that check you got do that check that I’ve ever C I’m going to get up there

And I’m going to talk like this I have won with a whole lot less no disrespect to Alex Smith no disrespect to Colin Kaepernick no disrespect to uh JJ McCarthy disrespect to Andrew Luck no disrespect to Andrew Luck but this is the best quarterback that he is going to

Coach at any level he’s ever been at and that’s why I think he’s coming in there with that energy and talking like that because he knows the man came in there talking about was star struggl with Justin Herbert he know bro different and yes he ain’t turned it into the winds on

The but when you talking about an athlete at the quarterback spot I cannot sit here and say Andrew Luck as a talent at the quarterback spot is better Shady you have shady and AO stressed out the sad part is that this young man he believes he beli he believes this I

Do believe it I’m I’m not gonna sit here and say Andrew Luck is a better Talent at the quarterback spot Justin Herbert this this is why I think you are the problem James is the problem crazy is why Harbaugh has his hopes too high because if Harbaugh actually believes

This nonsense that James Jones is saying that’s why he’s saying championships Because he believes that but in what world can such a talent win so little that’s the only question I’ve ever ever ever had for Herbert fans like I remember Cam Newton in college Shady you don’t like college ball but I’ll talk

College ball I think I know more about college ball than most people hosting daily shows because on weekends when I leave this show I go host the college show for 12 hours Cam Newton won a national championship game with Nick Fairley and him that was it it was them

Too they have two offensive players that played in the league that’s it that’s it Cam Newton I’m talking both because Herbert didn’t do it then but it’s fine it’s College Shady don’t like college it’s College a lot of really good quarterbacks in the National Football but it’s not a lot of really

Good quarterbacks in the National Football League that aren’t really good quarterbacks in the National Football League and as it stands right now Justin Herbert’s not a really good quarterback in the National Football League cuz a lot of really good quarterbacks in the National Football League that don’t win

He has the most passing yards in the who led the league in passing yards this year how you going say dude in four years came in the most passing yards everybody that incl I don’t want to shot Sam H the quarterback of Washington that got benched was leading the league in

Passing yards I believe through 16 weeks find another stat please okay so I think you don’t want to give me a camera cuz he sound crazy this man Man four years has the most passing yards of Patrick Mahomes whoever you want to talk about is a very very talented

Quarterback he is a very good talented quarterback good quarterback he’s a good quarterback he is a good quarterback and I said he’s not really good I he’s good I didn’t say well you get a little crazy I don’t think he’s really good crazy so now now we can all get

Back on the same page what Andrew Luck is really really good and he’s better than Justin Herbert did something to you no not at all no but I do lies do why don’t he it’s not about lies irritate man has not shown you the numbers that

He’s put up to be a really good quarterback in this league I about he’s not top 15 oh he’s top 15 of course for sure for that’s not he’s top 10 he’s top 10 but to top 10 isn’t really good n cuz it’s only 32 so top 10 30 top 30% Shady

Here’s here’s where I’m at here is here’s what I do here trying to get was together he he just he doing it again he buys I move you keep going have to hold on the only thing I don’t understand is if you’re that good if you’re that good

Why you don’t ever win well I we can’t say he doesn’t he we can’t say that he’s never won he didn’t make it to the playoffs like we don’t we don’t really like like let’s just say we don’t hold rookie years against quarterbacks right like in general we don’t we don’t hold

Rookie years so if you don’t go your rookie year which he had a tremendous rookie year we don’t hold but if we can’t hold it against him can we praise him for it i’ like if we going not hold it for against him CU his rookie year is

A highlight of his career do you judge rookies I do but I got judged as a rookie so I a have no choice why you Jud mean he did go to the playoffs like it’s not like he did not not win anything correct I’m saying winning is subjective

Right winning is all based upon our interpretation so compared to his PE is two or half none he’s been twice well so compared to his letest team there twice so compared to compared to his peers James let me talk to you for a second I’m I’m trying

To listen because you you saying two and all these dudes win CH got the same playoff wins as Herbert he’s a good quarterback and Herbert ain’t that’s like it’s hard for me to understand this compared to Herbert’s peers Herbert has won less than his peers at every level

Eventually that has to matter he’s W less than his peers at high school he’s won less than his peers in college he’s one less than his peers in the pros let me ask one question right I I just want to see how you how you view this you’re

The GM you’re the owner you all that right and one big and you got you got uh Joe to get you got Tua you got Jaylen Herz and you got Herbert right you probably take Joe first of course okay so if you take Joe out of it right out of the other three

Quarterbacks who you taking who are you taking to be your qu for your franch right now look at them tell the America let let them let him go let him go let them go clear your glasses you got do you truth be told I am taking Jaylen Hertz second I’m taking Jaylen Herz

Second I’m taking him second I don’t feel I don’t feel great about it but I’m taking second who you taking third now oh I forgot Jordan love in that draft you stop stop so you telling us right tell us on this on air right now and You’ been as honest as possible right

That you gonna take Jaylen Herz over over Herbert yes but here’s why I believe that if you put Jaylen Herz on the Chargers he would have a better record personally I believe based on Jaylen her’s ability to both run and throw the ball and his ability to find a

Way to win you’re sitting on national TV right now saying that Jaylen Herz is better than Justin Herbert at the quarterback spot Jaylen Herz leads to winning more than Justin Herbert leads to winning now saying so so you taking Brock P behind Patty in the whole league

Then if you care about winning so what what we talk he might do that though but here’s here’s the question though we are talking about the question that we’re that’s on the thing is gone now our are Jim but this is why we’re talking about this are Jim Harbaugh’s hopes for Justin

Herbert to high so if you take someone you care about winning as as as much winning as Harbaugh does as excellent as turnaround an organization as establish a culture build up a defense with with quarterback talent that is is lower than what Justin herberts is even if you have questions

About his talent you don’t think that Harbaugh having the expectation that he can based off of what he’s already done resumes behind me I’m coming in off of a national championship I’ve gone to a Super Bowl I’ve turned around programs that people still haven’t had the ability to turn around I don’t have

Confidence in just the raw forget winning physical ability and wow that we see with our own eyes with Justin Herbert you don’t that’s why I don’t find this to be too out of pocket the only thing that’s out of clearly Justin Herbert he got all this he got all this

So clearly something’s lacking I’m not on the locker room with him I’m not on the field with him but I played with could it be culture the Chargers don’t have no culture they have no identity love hard I love hard if you love har that much you always prayed

About how he great college and all all that so what if you got one of the most Talent of quarterbacks that we’ve seen in years you don’t think he’ll do well together with them I think when he said championships that’s what don’t sit well

With me like you better to go Inn M come on he’s going to go up to the thing welcome to Los Angeles I’m very excited to get Justin her to one playoff win that’s a that’s a realistic goal I would prefer like our goal here is to win a

Championship they brought me here to win a championship that’s my goal to win a championship singular but look I mean if Justin Herbert’s that great James I’m assuming he would have won by now I’m just you you you beat down Justin Herbert and you praise these other dudes

And they got just as many playoff wins as him and then you taking this thing back to college and all that dude is a special talent at the quarterback spot yes I agree with you you it has not turned into a lot of wins understood why

Not bro this is the most ultimate team sport we play we can sit here and bring up millions of numbers of how bad his defense was we can sit here and say ball in his hands too many drills some games he did not deliver but we can’t sit here

And say all these losses and since they ain’t been here and there they that he’s a bad quarterback I’m not saying he’s a bad quarterback I have never in my life but you saying quarterbacks that are worse than him are better than him that’s basically saying he’s not a good

Quarterback believe that if you are great it will translate that’s just my belief I believe you just lied to the National TV say jayen Herz is better than Herbert cuz I know you don’t believe that cuz I know out of all of us up here you watch the most not what he

Asked me that’s not what he asked me he said who would I draft there were a lot of really that means who’s better so so you’re GM you’re going to draft somebody that’s not better than the dude and you going I’mma take the dude who I believe

Can help me win so who thinks better than Jaylen her uh who can throw the ball further is just okay I’m done it’s Friday it’s Friday yeah can I get that Crazy subscribe here to get the latest from speak and go watch a few segments from our other shows on FS1