Today Ian is in the bay to test out the brand new Diamana WB line of shafts. Made for the 20th anniversary of the Diamana shaft line, the WB features the same stiff feel as the original offering, with modernized technology and style. Se how Ian adapts to the line in his test session with the shafts.
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One done I just got to say I don’t know where that came from feels great performed amazing 167 292 12 at 22 jeez okay guys welcome back to the channel so today Michael we are going to start with a little walk down memory lane Y young Michael in his
Diapers 2004 you were probably still rolled around in your own whatever I hope not at 9 years old I hope not yeah you never know Christina Leon can you confirm um so 2004 Mitsubishi came out with the blueboard the OG damana really changed the way in my opinion shafts were built as families
Now there was other ones that came before there was graphy prite and prite Elite right so one with a stiffer tip one with a softer tip there was ald envy and there was nvs but really when you build a family again that goes actually when you wear into diapers but when you
Build a family you’re kind of looking for obviously more options interchangeable heads we’ve got heads with different CG locations Etc we saw for the very first time when D Man launched whiteboard blueboard RedBoard this fully comprehensive family of shafts 20 years ago good thing times have changed things have gotten
Better people have gotten better looking shafts have improved with technology they they have um they’ve evolved for sure the golfer has evolved in 20 years I think if we look back to swing speeds on even the PJ tour and what the average golfer was was swinging the the driver
At specifically and also the the driver head design if you look at today’s driver head design if we want to use ping 430 10K as an example the bigger we make that head you know we elongate to the back we stretch out the toe the the greater the force that’s placed on the
Shaft is so from a twisting perspective Dro lead deflection all those things the shaft in its Dynamic motion changes and materials have gotten stronger and Designs have have gotten better as a result so today we’re talking DM whiteboard they have not ex brought the whole family back yet no they started
With whiteboard which I’m curious about because the whole thing started with blueboard yeah um so not sure why that one is they probably wanted start with the murdered out verion first yes now cosmetically modern modern yeah different quite nice mish’s Flagship line um you kindly educated us ear on
The meaning of diam Mana Diamond power Diamond power I hope that’s right from the last time I was there don’t look it up just sounds good oh that’s good um so yeah they’ve brought it back the 20th anniversary we’re going to test them out today in the kind of whiteboard profile
I’m I’m a tensy white guy in my fairs I’m I’m eager to see what this uh feels like and and flies like in comparison to those love it okay um let’s dive in okay all right F so technically sixth generation diam here um there’s been a
Few do you remember one that you I mean yeah B uh TV a TV is quite nice I had a a Hina way back in the day uh in a too much few then I knew you back then I know those are some that was the wab be
Days rough days anyways we can fast forward um similar profile to the you know 20 years ago what they did in uh in the WB but they’ve just up upgraded the materials obviously Dam really being a Mitsubishi company um back in the day everyone thought it was just oh I’m
Going to use a DM product um but they’ve got uh 80 ton in this guy which you were saying earlier they were built with a lot lower than that well I mean it’s it’s they used to throw around whatever ton pitch fiber they had in the shaft
And they used to they used to throw it around like a like a Bast we’ve got 40 ton pitch fiber here the reality is all shafts are made with with a multitude of different fibers in there so in this one we have 80 ton in the butt section for
It to be you know really nice and stable and my God does it feel it I don’t know if I’ve played a shaft that’s felt this way I never really played a hazardous smoke right you know the Hulk or anything like that I mean they’re super
Butt stiff but this is this feels like heavy and and sturdy in sort of the back end um and then it’s got so it’s got 80 ton in the handle it’s got 46 down layered through at different sort of angles as they do they they sort of um
Lay the the the PES at 45 degree angles to give it more torsional stability so there’s not just one bias to the the layering of the the the carbon um the nice thing with that is that you can enhance the stability without increasing the weight yeah and and and ultimately
When you’re trying to get a higher carbon to resin count which is where the fuel comes from and consistency and all those things you know you start to lean into that’s where we extract the most energy we get the the most efficient loading and unloading like we said in the intro I’m
I’m a tensy white player in Fairways I don’t know if I’ll really have a need to move into something else until I really Chang my swing this is just feels like a different animal yeah like this is a heavy loaders shaft it feels like anoy
Yeah I mean we were chatting to a friend of ours at uh at Mitsubishi and they were saying last week LPGA PGA they had 16 pieces in play yeah um across the two tours so um definitely getting a little bit of traction and some interest in in
It but I think especially on the PGA side I don’t think the shaft is for the the faint to Heart in way I don’t think it’s 100% maybe a profile that would work for you either you know the first couple swings like you said it’s a lot firmer
In the handles and stuff like that so interesting to see how it performs um but yeah I think it’s it’s a it’s a big boy Tour Part in hindsight I would have done 53 driver 63 3w 73 uh fivewood and I think I would have felt more
Comfortable out the gate right now I’m a little bit the back foot feeling like this is this is mey let’s see let’s see that wasn’t bad perhaps a tad on the thin side Mikey but sound a bit better better and when people see on paper like low torque shaft the shafts you’re currently
Playing why is the torque in US 83x 2.7 feels it yeah I was just going to say can you oh yeah yeah yeah does it just it doesn’t have give an Any Which Way a shaft’s got to for like for me to time it I’m struggling with this it’s got to
Have some torsional play or it’s going to have some sort of you know movement in the in the profile dynamically I just I don’t know I just think this is for people with way more in the locker than I do those are pretty decent yeah that one sounded really
Good yeah those are those are good fits all right f um WB 73x little bit shorter than standard length just how you normally play your fair Ray it was good um um and one click lower in the settings feels good let’s see that’s as good as I can hit it right
There pure right there go in be the right Club oh pilled it missed the left they look a big guide here but the strikes definitely gotten a little bit better I just got to take a little bit of the the speed out of it where I’m like I’m pushing too hard trying to
Trying to kind as I say hit the the really really good one looks really good oh Rascal what I’m used to for fairywood Mikey mhm like that feels like a like I’m that not pretty good in the end but it just feels like quite a lot of work
Yeah again we go back to that low torque conversation yeah if you’re playing something that you have a bit more feel to and this is that kind of 2×4 totally you know the other heavy hitter shafts out there you kind of you pull that feel away for someone like
Yourself yeah without a doubt all right F last but not least big dog driver these are going to get some love on tour I have no doubt about that feels like a tour shaft you know like this reminds me of my my sort of early or late Junior days early 20s when
I used to kind of get given a club that maybe once belonged to a tour player and I had no business playing it but I of I just wanted to give it a run I remember a few of those you were like oh X Flex
I’ll give that a try and you just feel like youan know all my stuff’s xlex but not this one this uh a little bit more just feels like it to me and some people probably hit it and go I think it’s smooth and it’s soft to me it just feels
Hefty one and done I just got to say I don’t know where that came from feels great performed amazing 167 292 12 at 22 jeez same as the first one yeah little flatter flight yeah it’s flat but it’s kind of got some it’s got some speed to it it does one
Six8 you give me The Round Up 168 112 at 22 102 ft in the air that is a missile money money flights I see where they’re coming out they’re like they’re definitely they’re middle balls for sure new driver shaft I don’t know you hang about it’s the high knuckle ball
H Ian Fraser finds new driver shaft for 2024 that one fast yeah 173 173 14 launch 1900 I mean that’s that’s pretty money right there that’s pretty money take a bundle of those all right miky boy fivewood lots of sort of stability in there lots of
Graphite in that to much effort yeah it was Heavy um I don’t normally launch my fivewood that low I think that’s a sign of of how kind of stable that one is for those of you with with more speed than me if if you’re kind of swinging you know fivewood in and around
110 112 you probably like it those of you who maybe want to play 5 with at 42 in rather than 42 and2 you might also like it uh 107 with the three-wood actually was quite enjoying the three-wood yeah I started to get a we Groove with it I
Wasn’t really kind of swinging like you know for the fences with it but I got I got some nice ones with it I think that those numbers are good 20 12 uh launch and just under 3,000 just jumped to the driver that thing was impressive well it
Kind of was it wasn’t and then it was It was kind of quite good and I thought that’s quite nice and then we hit a couple and it was like I was just I was working on a little kind of down swing fi and then all of a
Sudden appeared a beast From The Trenches it’s pretty good 173 been a while 173,00 spin 144 launch like check mark check mark check mark That’s a beast of a drive we can of you know see that moving forward we’ve just filmed to kind of start the Builder Bag series and I kind
Of thought that that uh 8° head and I probably needed to start you know not being as much up in it do we just need to f it and do it yeah cuz even if you want to round that down somewhat right if you want to kind
Of say that okay it’s not 34 it’s 300 right so there’s 15 sort of yards of of extra if you want want to kind of call it that 5% I’ll take it totally I mean I’ll take it even the ones that were in that like 167 165 still pretty consistently like
Straight in a nice tight dispersion and then when that speed jumped up sometimes you start to see that ball flare a little bit more left or a little bit more right I mean stayed online for you perfectly it did it did it was good I
Kind of wish I had a single Dot and I was just I was looking for path and angle of attack really more than and speed more than anything else I kind of wish I’d saw what was going on with with kind of all the other things to be
Honest but um you know we might we might poke around and see what’s going on with that next week when we’re back in testing some stable shafts they do the Whiteboard family sort of Legacy they do it justice really really stable um I don’t think they are as
Stiff as your Ventus blacks right okay I still think that’s a a mod stiffer but again I keep going back to the word Hefty M feels like you’re swinging a lump yeah it does a lump a lump of graphite but obviously it’s been designed that way with with that kind of
Denser fiber in the butt section you know it’s it’s designed for those of you who can and a void for those of you who can’t avoided no problem yeah yeah I’m happy to I’m happy that for everything other than really the driver to be in
The K category but um you know might be worth hanging about I just would love to try the 53x I saw that in the profile yeah I I definitely think like you said earlier this will be a tour product you see in more bags coming you know guys
Are obviously they’ve done their testing with drivers but if they are still tinkering this is a shaft you’ll start to see pop up a little bit more a competitor to that Ventus black um but yeah I mean like I said building them up cutting them you know the the saw was
Slowing down when you were cutting them like there was a bit of there was a bit of material to get through it so um definitely not for the U you know the soft smoothie hitters like myself um but uh but yeah I mean good good product
Like I said that driver was uh the driver was impressive in the end it was it was we got there we got the right one okay guys um I’m sure you’ve all played DM man at some point just just for a little walk down memory lane let us know
What you played were you an AA H Kylie Elma there’s so many over the years you know it seemed like every other year there was a new a new version let us know what ones you played I’ve certainly played my first year I know you have as
Well yeah good stuff all right guys hope you enjoyed this stay tuned for more and we’ll see you again Soon
48 Comments
An oldie but goody just got better. I used to play the WB 63x and 73x back in the day.
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Can't wait for a new blueboard now…
Have the dwb 73xstiff tipped 1/2 and butted an inch in driver and 3wood. Glad they came out with an updated model as I’ve never hit a shaft that feel and performs as good.
Every company is trying to make a Ventus black competitor. Super cool time to be a shaft ho 😎
Great review as ever !
If the X is too stiff, why not just drop down a flex and give it a try?
10 years ago I played TaylorMade SLDR TP shafts …. D 67g, 3w 83g, 5w 77g…💪 💣… Just thought it was the norm.
That 3wood was a beast.
Thought the white board profile had a softer butt section. Surprised to hear that the butt is very stiff.
Recently had my hzrdus smoke green 80tx snap on me so definitely looking forward to testing the wb. Feel like a 70tx or 80 might be perfect
Great review. I still have a Diamana Dialead Red x5ct 50g S- flex I use here and then for something different. It has great feel. Odd for me because I mainly use my Hzrdus Yellow Small Batch 76g S-flex/6.0. The Diamana is definitely for a smooth loader.
Don’t know if you noticed or not (I’m sure you did, but it wasn’t mentioned) the first 2 balls with the driver, the efficiency was 1.49 and 1.48….on quad…lol niceee
I played with and kept an M3 with a D+ 70 WB x stiff as back up for a while. Didn't matter how hard I swung it. Long and super consistent flight. Crazy good shafts.
Ian…….do these shafts give you extra spin 😂😂😂😂🎣
I once had the White Board in a driver I was fitted for. I could hit it well and on the surface the shaft and driver seemed perfect, but to me it had absolutely ZERO feeling. I hated it
Will you guys be doing any golf ball testing this year with new releases from Callaway and Bridgestone? Pretty substantial changes to their ball that would be fun to see how they stack up.
Played the Blue 70
sx5ct I think in my 915 3w really love it. First found a replace with TSI 2 with tensei blueWow wow
I guess if the GOAT played it then it must be good….may he manage a win this year… would be great for golf
I agree with Fraz… they should have gone all white with high gloss… maybe even gold graphics for the anniversary… it would get more TV time that way 😊
That 5 wood sounds nuked!!!!!
How does this compare to the Diamana PD?
Like seriously Ian is like the golf review oracle – leaves others in the dust and makes it easy for semi-geeks like me easy to understand
Seems to be like nearly everything you guys test is a good fit. Kind of makes me think that fitting isn’t as important as we are led to believe
Mr Fraser hitting BOMBS…………BOOM🚀🚀🚀🚀
You worked up a nice wee glow there Mr Fraser 🥵🤣 and you gave that last drive the beans 👍
Still got a Blueboard 93g x5ct x-flex trying to get back in the bag 😮😂
This video deserves an award
Ian put it in the bag you hit all of those great
Played the Whiteboard and the Blueboard!
we neeeed to see the 53 x/tx vs the 63x
I still play the OG made in Japan Mitsubishi Diamana 73 x5cT stiff Blue Board that I got from the Titleist Custom shop years ago . I just keep sticking new titleist heads on it but added a half inch after the TS’s came out .
I’m just down the street from your Toronto studio if you ever want to test it out vs the newer offerings Ian . Cheers James
to me there has always been a thing with Titleist drivers and Diamana shafts, my 910 was blue kai'li and my 913 was black ahina, gotten alot older but still use the 910 kai'li, love the feel
I've been playing the Diamana GT in 60TX for about a year now – with my swing speed around 115-120mph this new whiteboard would certainly be interesting. Ultimately I've always liked shaft profiles that have a bit of give in the midsection with a super stiff butt profile, and have never really liked super boardy feeling shafts (think Smoke Black, Ventus Black) so that'd be what I look for the most if I ever try this one out. Have been lucky to try out lots of different shaft profiles across heaps of manufacturers but I've always gravitated towards Mitsubishi – the way they describe their respective shaft profiles re feel/launch/spin has always matched what I've seen during my own testing which is assuring as a consumer
This compare to the tensei 1K black?
Ilima in my 3 wood right now. My most trusted ❤
Should have had Mikey hit the driver. Some of these WRXers need to learn what too stiff does to the flight lol
I can see the speed training is paying off Mr Fraser! 👏👏
When you have an extreme shaft like this, it might be interesting in seeing a higher swing speed player like Ian, and then a lesser swing speed player like Mikey swing the club back to back. We could directly see the difference of performance produced (or lack thereof). Might be a lesson to someone considering the shaft of why they need to test it.
Have an OG Whiteboard 73x in my TSi3….as fast any other combo I've tried. Would love to see a test with all six generations of WB.
Ian, when you get your hands on a 53x, wouldn’t it make sense to try a stiff shaft side by side? I know that none of us like to “flex” down, there might be a gem to be found…
Similar to ventus TR blue would you say?
Comparison to D+ limited? Been playing that for 2 seasons.
Is this shaft similar to D+ limited or diamana PD?
Another vote for Ian to try the 53g version.
I've had a few Whiteboards over the years! Will have to check out pricing compared to the Velocore!
Ventus velocore TR black 7x……..
My swing speed averages 116-117 on my dad’s GC Quad. My ball speed is usually between 165-173 mph. But my carry is averaging 275-280, total is 300-310. Why am I not hitting as far as Ian!?!?!? Trackman says my optimized carry is 305, but on Trackman I average 275-ish carry. I don’t get it
Spot on with the Diamond Power Mikey!