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Something nice could change their life [Applause] we sport sport sport sport sport hello beautiful people and Welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this big coach Thursday January 25th 2024 this sports program starts now football is headline heavy right now we got defensive coordinators moving from Miami to Philadelphia but the one

Story that everybody on Earth is talking about is that the reigning defending current national champion of the college football World Jim Harbaugh is now the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers Baby J announced yesterday at 6:43 Eastern time uh by this man who is a Michigan man’s Twitter account Adam

Sheffer will be joining us in about 9 minutes to break down how we inevitably got here because if you do recall uh December 4th I believe shefer came on our show whenever we were in New York and this is how he described the Harbaugh Michigan situation to us has

Hard baugh’s camper team thought about that or they just focused on college football playoff well I would say that to me he’s always wanted to go bring a national championship to Michigan and I think if he brings a national championship to Michigan I would think there would be a

Part of him that feels like he set out to do what he intended all along and I think that that would give him him even more Liberty to take the jump to the NFL so literally since December 4th Adam shefer has kind of been saying that all

Harbaugh wanted to do whenever he got back to Michigan was restore some greatness to Michigan I think it was a narrative that was heard loud and clear by a lot of Michigan alums because whenever Jim harball leaves the national champion Michigan team to go to the Chargers all we saw yesterday was

Michigan Alum saying thank you Michigan man Jim Harbaugh for doing what you did to our Beloved School be state three straight times won three straight college football playoffs won a National Championship now we’re back in the conversation and allegedly handing off to Baton Shon Moore who hasn’t been

Hired yet because state law of course yeah that’s state law rest in peace Donnie Baker but there’s uh at least a week has to take place before the highest paid I’d assume state employee is hired with anything else like that so Chiron Moore is a guy that Jim Harbaugh

Found gave an opportunity to and is now handing off the ranks to to keep Michigan at this high level while Harbaugh now heads to Los Angeles Chargers a place that he played for a place that he’s won for a place that he’s close to the owners and I think

He’s coached ownership’s kids maybe whenever they were at Stanford now there was other teams that were certainly interested in Jim hard Baugh Services Atlanta was scheduling another interview with him coming in there he was the bell of the ball for this coaching cycle for good reason all this human has ever done

Now not a quarterback I don’t think he’s ever won a Super Bowl he is in the Colts Ring of Honor I think he played like four games or something for the indianapol but all he has done as a head coach is Win established an attitude and a culture of being physically tougher

Than other teams and not dealing with any of the nonsense outside that is exactly what the Chargers need right now the amount of talent they have on that team the quarterback that they have we think this is going to be a beautiful relationship and congrats to the Chargers getting this thing done yeah

Now Michigan obviously had massive success at the ners he had massive success at Stanford he had massive success I think even at San Diego State where he started he had massive success this guy knows how to coach ball now we think he’s incredibly hilarious I love

That he is not normal I like that he is quirky even though that has been a weapon of his in his coaching style and winning over a locker room and I think the NFL should be very pumped that he’s back with us I do know that a lot of the

Big people in the college football World the Kirk herb streets the ree Davis’s The Desmond Howards they’re all going to miss the hell out of Jim Harbaugh being in college football because the Persona the personality The Moxy the culture that he brings is good for any League

That he’s in so we’re all pumped that he’s back in the NFL there are certainly some people bummed but if you’re a Chargers fan let’s go yeah we’re back in this thing with a legitimate horse the toxic table was here at Boston Conor and at Tai Schmidt we had a chance to talk

To Brandon sty in person yeah shortly after he was hired and I think we all left that conversation going I’ve never met an NFL coach like that before good guy he said his coaching tree wasn’t McVey it was Mom and Dad Bruce and Linda Bruce and Lind are uh coaches in Ohio

Now Co takes place I think he was a very interpersonal type coach wants to win them over talk to them meet their family couldn’t do that for two years because of the situation that was happening around the globe it did take place please don’t cancel me for even mentioning that entire thing and

Inevitably just never really worked out the Brandon never really worked out now they got some real stability a championship mindset and the Spanos has had to pay and they’re not normally known for the people that are going to go up and above and beyond to pay people

You know their bank account is not normally questioned by everybody they somehow rangle in the big fish one half of the hammer down Cowboys T Diggs is here bill bellich at the beginning was maybe going to go to the Chargers how about Vel maybe going over to the

Chargers Pete Carroll wanted the job Jim Harbaugh gets the Chargers job congrats everybody over there we think on this particular day yeah I mean they even uh interviewed David Shaw they they they um there’s a lot of names in a half for them and I’m pretty sure uh we all

Thought you all thought everyone if Harbaugh wants that job he wants that job um and I don’t know if we have the clip or not but especially when greeny told us that they were at a funeral and greeny didn’t care about the person I think do we have it yes please the same

Day that shefer told us that Harbaugh and as you saw with greeny he was on the first question whenever shefer was there you could actually hear us dapping him up while shefer was giving us an answer on his way out so hard was a big topic of conversation this day and here’s how

Greeny described what he thinks Harbaugh would want to do in the NFL because of a conversation he had at a funeral yeah you may know Jim Harbaugh better than I do but I know him a little he was well he was the quarterback of the Bears when

I covered them in the 90s and I happened to run into gym we were at a funeral about a year and a half ago rest in peace rest in peace thank you very much thoughts and prayers and uh and it was just a mutual friend of ours who died

And we got talking now I want to make it very clear we were not talking about coaching vacancy we were not talking about him leaving Michigan nothing we were just talking about how great the Young quarterback play is in the National Football League all these great young quarterbacks burrow Mahomes blah

Blah blah he spent five minutes telling me that he thinks that Justin Herbert is the best of all of them he loves Herbert take that for what you will I don’t I do not think that Harbaugh will be back in Michigan next year I’m not sure what the

Circumstances are that will uh cause his departure but whether they beat Alabama or not whether they win the championship or not I do not think he is going to be back at Michigan next year based on all that I think is coming down the road with the NCAA with them and grany hasn’t

Been right about everything but he’s in two hall of fames for a reason and I think a lot of people saw the writing on the wall potentially for Harbaugh getting back into the NFL because a lot of money to be made as a head coach in

The NFL but him saying all he talked about was how good Herbert is and you see the success he had with Andrew luck obviously at Stanford and how big and strong and seemingly similar personalities that Herbert has along onside Andrew Luck I think he feels that

They’ll be able to mesh well and he’ll be able to get the most out of them joining us now as a Mana coach football for 36 years 18 in college 18 the NFL the people’s coach our coach Chuck Pagano now Chuck perfect day for you coming here why do you think Harbaugh

Chose the Chargers and do you think it is because of Herbert and what do you expect from the Chargers now that Harbaugh’s the head coach yeah certainly uh the quarterback always has a lot to do with that his relationship going back to his playing days for the Chargers

Relationship with the Spanos family you talked about you know possible Spanos kid walking on at Stanford him coaching him I it just lined up right I mean they had this guy circled long before this ever happened and and I’m sure you know harbs flirted around with Minnesota

Couple year last year or two years ago Denver year ago so I think this was inevitable he won the National Championship it was like okay I checked the box I did what I set out to do um at Michigan got them back on track won the National Championship so the guy enters

He’s back in the NFL and he’s got like top five winning per highest number one active he’s the highest right now 44 and 19 and one at San Francisco built just a juggernaut there he was doing with Kaepernick long before anybody like everybody’s doing now he was doing that

Way back in the day I mean we went out there you remember we went out there in 2013 and played themad Bradshaw set the tone right from the very first snap pitched it to him and I forget the dback stud DB came up and they there was like two Rams you know on

One of those deals yeah and set the tone for the day it was a heck of a win for us huge win that that that stadium was absolute crap garbage trash Candlestick cool to be there though you’re part of like history like actual ancient history you’re in the middle of it while playing

But I think that was my first time encountering Hardball when I was warming up uh on the field he walked over and I’m looking down at the ground I don’t know try to probably figure out how far and I saw his cleats first I saw the I

Saw cleats walk up first and then I saw the khakis and then I look up and it’s him and he goes hey Pat just wanted to say hello or whatever I’m like Coach Harbaugh very nice to meet you he just walks away we had a lot of Stanford guys

On our team so i’ had heard a lot about Harbaugh I’m assuming there’s a chance he potentially heard but he was always incredibly kind to me and he’s always been incredibly friendly and his players love him like his players have always loved him and I think that is massive

Piece of this there’s not a lot of people that have been able to successfully coach in college and in the NFL I mean I guess you’re one of them your name never gets really mentioned in that entire aspect and that’s kind of I guess but there’s not a lot

Of people that have been able to reach 18y olds and also been able to reach 37 year olds it’s not easy there’s a dynamic there in which you have to have respect and your resume has to be real and the way you communicate has to be a

Special way Harbaugh has been able to prove that he can do that and now he’s taking on a brand new challenge with a team who’s second Fiddle in their own City in their own stadium a team that for whatever reason just at the very end they have the Detroit Lions syndrome at

The very end of the game they’re going to blow it no we we don’t know how we don’t know why they’re going to blow it and it’s like he’s coming in there now with the same mindset he had at Michigan and I think we all agree he’s going to

Win right how we all agree now AB no absolutely they they they pulled off the biggest coup you talked about the Spanos family not being real spendy being a little bit tight with the money maybe they don’t have the money but they went out and spent whatever they had to spend

I’m excited to hear what this number is get their dude he’ll win a championship there really Super Bowl he’s yeah absolutely all right absolutely I mean CH Jimmy Johnson taught me a long time ago like when I GA for him like in 1986 about players he said if they make plays

In high school they’re going to make them in college they make them in college they’re going to make them in the National Football League Ed Reed okay 100 interceptions at destan high school right in Louisiana a million interceptions at the U and whatever the hell want gazillion 60 whatever it is in

The National so coaching is no de he’s one everywhere you mentioned San Diego right I think it’s the Toros University of San Diego okay not San so the Toro so there Stanford boom boom boom you just go on down the line so this is just this

Is just a matter of time they’ve got some cap issues that they have to deal with on that roster so he’ll go in there they’ve got to hire a GM still and uh there’s there’s a couple names out there that they’ve uh they’ve talked about but

He’ll get a gym he’ll get you know they’ll get a guy there and you just know how that mindset he’s he’s authentic right what you see is what you get and he has never changed and he is unapologetically himself and and he’s real and he’s been able to do it at the

College level coach those kids coach kids in the National Football we saw a lot of guys not be able to do that right a lot be able to communicate I had a learning curve when I first came in the NFL from from college it’s different you’re talking to grown ass men yeah you

Know so you can’t have a conversation maybe like you had with a college kid on you know especially in front of their peers with a national football you know NFL player a grown ass man as we used to call like we call him right absolutely cuz you’re going to get you’ll get a

Funny look yeah oh is that right okay we’ll see whose bank account is bigger and also who matters more to this team you want to keep running your mouth that is how some players treated and some coaches can never get past that can never understand the fact like oh we’re

In this together as opposed to you’re working for me that is the different Dynamic of the NFL and the college not saying that you can’t command accountability and respect and discipline and everything but it’s a fine line it’s not easy in hard Baugh has been able to bounce I think it’s

Because he’s a player I think it’s because he’s been a player so he’s literally been in the meeting rooms before he’s played in the games he knows what’s feasible he’s knows what’s not feasible and all the players in the locker room know that he’s played so whenever he’s coming in there he’s

Already got a grain of credibility with the boys he’s already got respect with the boys and I think everybody’s just excited to learn what all that I’ve seen is real like I’ve seen this guy shirtless we’re hearing stories now from Aiden Hutchinson and it was tweeted by the

33rd team I don’t know who’s doing the interview where he said one of his favorite stories is he he walked in a way room in Michigan and uh Harbaugh was in cleats wearing khaki shirtless under the squat rack it’s like those types of stories are in abundance from everywhere

He’s ever been and everybody loves him it’s just like yeah that’s that’s Jim so I think the Chargers players are obviously hopeful for the future but also like excited to see what is this son of a you know what is this and they all know that what they’re going to

Be screaming soon is nobody for the whole who’s got it better than us but it’s like there’s some mass and we always talk about winning headlines and we never know if this is actually a win or not in the future can you win today though can you win the hiring day and a

Lot of teams don’t necessarily do that I think when the Titans uh hire Callahan like I think Titans fans have gotten pretty quiet since they fired Vel and now everything’s kind of gone anyways but Titans have a good fan base I’ve got a chance to experience him we’ve got a

Chance to experience him down in Nashville not only for the games in in our division uh every single year but also in the draft I mean like I don’t think Titans fans are like super loud and pumped no about Callahan becoming their head coach now they might be

Completely wrong Callahan might go in there and absolutely Crush four months from now but Chargers fans especially the Chargers social media account it is a Victory lap day for this Los Angeles Chargers team they haven’t had a lot of those since they gone to Los Angeles no

And there’s still Bel Rael Pete Carol out there and they still like hey it doesn’t matter who cares about those guys Harbaugh is the guy I mean could you imagine are there two more polar opposite people at least from the outside with Staley and Harbaugh like it’s almost as if just overnight this

Entire franchise just pivoted like okay we’re not doing that stuff anymore we’re doing the Harbaugh shirtless underneath the rack and khakis like that that is who we are now which is awesome and you mentioned Herbert like it feels like that is the kind of guy Herbert is shirtless quiet Herbert’s got great hair

He’s handsome y he’s quiet got a rocket so I think like a lot of people automatically assume like oh not like super football guy remember I got a chance to meet his dad him his brothers and his dad were playing pickup football in their living room whenever they were

Little kids that’s a reason why he can kick is because they put tape on the wall for field goals and extra points they moved a furniture out of the living room as a kid so that they could play football in Oregon like this dude is a

Football nut and then one of his first plays whenever he got dropped into the game after Tyrod uh Taylor had his lung punctured by a golf te just 15 minutes before the game started uh he’s running down sideline and instead of going out of bounds he takes his 6’6

240lb body and Destroy carded a guy yeah knocks him out carded a guy off the field and his teammates were like oh okay so now you bring in a hard bought mentality which is going to be you see it with the Ravens you saw it with

Michigan you saw it with Stanford I mean remember Toby and uh Christian and and luck and it’s just like a physical physical football team and you can kind of take out all the exterior stuff now they’ll still use the weapons that they have Harbaugh is not a dummy he’s a

Quarterback at hard they see the highlights of him throwing but they’re going to take on this image of him and it’s a tough team and it’s like in the football world now those teams are winning there for a while who’s the smartest who’s the trickiest who’s the most clever who has

The most speed who can spread them out who can utilize the most sure that still all matters but who’s the tough team now are the teams that are winning in the football world and it’s like they’re immediately potentially dropping that culture into LA with the Chargers yeah

And this is exactly what a guy like Herbert needs I think too because you know he he’s unbelievable obviously and kind of people go back and forth like oh is he a superstar but in big moments whether it was the case or not it seemed like a guy like Brandon Staley is just

Timid and kind of unsure of himself like that’s that’s not hard ball at all like I you you just feel and especially like him being a big 10 guy see watching all those teams for all those years he was in the Big 10 and then obviously him in

The NFL like they win those close games because that’s just like you said like that’s his mentality that’s that physical tough like they they just it’s almost like he doesn’t allow teams to lose in those situations and then you get a guy like um you you get a guy like Herbert who

You know is has all the talent in the world but whether or not he was always you know held accountable to the same degree that Harbaugh is definitely going to hold him accountable it just like this feels like a home run in every possible way and the cap issues that

Chuck brings up that’s just one swipe of a pen that you can change it now you’re kicking it down the road but a lot of teams have done that that is the modern NFL breaking news out of Carolina so danam Morgan former Miami Legend and Maniac linebacker dog on the field who’s

A cerebral deep thinker and tough guy that Greg olssen described basically a Dan Campbell type is what people are describing Dan Morgan who’s been hired as the GM for the Carolina Panthers he brings on David Canales of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator to become the head coach of the Carolina

Panthers now we learned earlier today from Chuck Pagano’s knowledge of who is with where how Canalis joined USC in 2009 with Pete Carroll then he left and went to Seattle Dan Morgan was in Seattle Canalis was in Seattle they kind of cut their teeth together know each other very well obviously with what

Baker Mayfield was able to accomplish this year and the success that they had put him on the radar for jobs him and Morgan good tag team over there feels like that’s another place that’s going to have to change their culture and mindset going forward immediately match made in heaven right so they spent

Probably seven years together in Seattle so obviously they know each other soon as Dan got this job you saw this name come up you saw him go in for the interview second one so you kind of put two and two together saying okay because we talk about it at nauseum about the

Head coach GM relationship and being tied at the hip and being aligned same thinking philosophical whatever it is yeah so this is this is a home run for for Dan Morgan and the Panthers no they got a lot of things to figure out down there but Greg Olsson said who lives in

Carolina former Panther he’s in the city would like his kids to cheer for a successful Panthers team he said Morgan is a guy that you would put Faith in to turn around an entire program absolutely how come how’ you know I was at the University of Miami recruited him in I

Didn’t recruit him he came and played for us in 97 he was from Coral Springs local local kid came in as a running back white running back they move him to linebacker and next thing you know he’s he’s like second team freshman All-American sets a record for freshman

Tackles like I he beat like Ray had the had the record then Dan Morgan has the record he goes on to have an unbelievable W every award that you can win as a linebacker in college Bronco this that all those Awards right unbelievable I mean like the quiet

Assassin never said anything you talk like he said we’re going to have you know have thoughtful thinking like really smart dude very precise not going to be an overreactor he’s going to think through everything and he’s going to he knows how to build a team yeah but once

He put the cowboy color back on exactly like and I hope he hears this uh because the way he is I think he’ll probably you know maybe find a little fire in this I thought you just dress like an accountant at your press conference I I’ve heard nothing about you being just

An absolute dog I want a cowboy call her so it won’t be like you said Embassy he’s got the same mindset now he’s not going to come across like that he’s not going to talk about biting off kneecaps and all that but they’re wired the same

His toughness and the way he’s going to build the team being at Miami he didn’t lose game they didn’t lose Gams for two years won should have won back-to-back national championships so the guy’s been the guy’s been a winner he knows what it’s supposed to look like what it’s

Supposed to smell like what it’s supposed to taste like and right guy for Tepper seemingly now quick Tong go ahead yeah but you mentioned the DM coach perfect pair great but that’s another firsttime coach where Tapper can be when can put his thumb on on Mondays and meet

With him are we not worried about that joining us now is a man who might have a little bit of information on that and certainly has more information on the Los Angeles Chargers hiring of Jim Harbaugh Michigan man the man who told us in December about how he felt that

Harbaugh wanted to come back to Michigan restore greatness and then miss is the mission accomplished maybe he goes back to the NFL ladies and gentlemen Adam shefer shefy thank you for joining us pal I ran the clip earlier of what you said and your thoughts on what Jim was

Potentially thinking when he went back to Michigan he did that how clear was the picture that he was going to be a charger because it felt like the entire world was putting him with the charger for like the last few weeks what was the hold up was there a hold up who

Inevitably had to make the decision to make it official yesterday at 643 via your Twitter account well I I think that essentially the Chargers were the team that was most interested in him all along they had done a ton of work on Jim Harbaugh were determined to get a deal

Done with Jim Harbaugh and the only question really that remain was that the interview with the Falcons was scheduled for Thursday so was Jim going to get out of the building were the Chargers going to get the deal done and was he going to go on to Atlanta which I think had some

Attractive qualities to offer and ultimately in the end the Chargers I think stepped up and before he can get out of the building before he can get out of La before he can get to Atlanta they reach agreement on a five-year deal that keeps Jim in Los Angeles prevents

Him from interviewing with the Falcons who were interested in talking to Jim and we’ll never know how that would have worked out but in the end I I think the Chargers were the team that really wanted him most and it showed in the aggressiveness with which they pursued

Him do we normally learn what the number is you just said five years there and I thought you were potentially going to drop the number what it is because Spanos family owns an NFL team okay they’re wealthy this is not a knock on the Spanos family they certainly have

More money than every human that’s on this call right now combined okay that is certainly the case they’re but they’re not known to be the you know they’ll on it cuz they want to spend more money that’s kind of the mo about the span they’re in somebody else’s

Stadium you know they’re doing it like so they had to really step up here you think financially to get hardbar what do you think was the stepping up is it like you get more control over roster how do you think they did step up to kind of

Land the deal here for the bell of the ball this coaching cycle which was Jim Harbaugh well again I think it’s not hard to figure out Michigan had an offer on the table to make Jim the highest paid coach in college football it was out there and he could have taken that

At any point in time but the longer it’s just sitting out there and the more he’s not taking it the more you realize you that’s just not going to happen he’s just not going to go back to school his work there is done it’s time for him to

Go to the NFL and it’s really a whole slew of factors as you mentioned as we talked about he had restored the program he had beaten Ohio State he had gotten the team to a final four he had won a national championship he had done

Everything that he set out to do at that school he had been there longer than he had been any other place 9 years and the money at the NFL coaching level is rising to where whatever Michigan was going to offer it couldn’t match what the NFL was going to offer on two fronts

Number one the NFL was going to be able to offer more money number two the NFL could offer the chance to compete and try to win a Super Bowl which Michigan couldn’t so those two factors alone made it such that Jim I believe was destined to leave Michigan at this time this was

The right time I think he knew it he did a tremendous job focusing in on the task at hand and leading this team to a national championship and answering questions in a way that completely diffused the situation and didn’t allow it to be a distraction for the team that

Won the national championship and also I think the way the Michigan Alum and Michigan players have handled this is vastly different than what happens in a lot of other places when their coach leaves especially after winning a national championship we just got here he’s the first coach in history to leave

College after winning a national championship and go to the NFL so congrats to him for doing that mission accomplished as a Michigan man to restore their greatness last question about this before we have a question about Carolina then we’ll let you go we appreciate you making time on this very

Active Thursday the passing of the Baton from Johnny root huh just like we said it was that’s the shiron Moore where we thinking ah yeah I I listen to me Chey yeah that that that’s a natural that that’s sort of easy to call and to

Me you know Michigan may look at a few other candidates and it may talk to a few other candidates but who’s better than Chiron Moore who’s got who’s got it better than Chiron Moore no who who’s got who’s got the greatest win percentage not only in Michigan history but college football history CH

Moore 4 and0 that’s a good resume and also he loves Michigan I mean you saw in that interview afterwards how much he loves the program I assume Michigan people will be pumped last question here and it’s not about this we appreciate you though yeah sh we were just talking

About right before you came on how how Morgan and Canales seem like a perfect fit as coach in GM our worry has always been how is teer going to handle a first uh firsttime head coach as the owner are they going to do meetings again again every Monday like he did with Frank

Reich how do you think that relationship is going to be you know you’re you’re bringing up terer and Dave Canalis and Dan Morgan and D to me the biggest most important relationship in that organization now and it’s not close is the one between Dave Canales and Bryce

Young because this team mortg its future on the quarterb that that organization believes in and has the chance to grow into a good player they need somebody who’s going to nurture him allow him to grow and become the quarterback that they believed he was when they traded up

And gave away all those picks to give up to get Bryce young and so that is the most important relationship in that organization now you could take terer you could take Moore you can take any of these guys but it’s about Dave Canalis and Bryce young and what they do

Together and obviously the Panthers are very impressed with what he did this past year uh with Baker Mayfield Dan Morgan knows him from his time in Seattle and knows the kind of attitude that he has um I didn’t know this until yesterday but Dave Canalis is is an

Author too he wrote a book about uh his relationship with his wife that uh some people have read too that that’s kind of interesting I got to go read that some people have read I Love the Way you describe that I’m just letting you know that I have certainly not read this but

I learned of this yesterday Canalis deep thinker just like Dan Morgan they’re saying and I understand that Canalis and Bryce Young’s success alter how all the conversations go about the Carolina Panthers but for those of us who have to talk about or get to talk about the NFL

Every single day the teer relationship with everybody is number one just the guy throwing ice on people the guy calling Monday meetings the guy firing six soccer coaches six football coaches in like three years that’s the com you’re you’re thinking about him like that and let’s not lose sight of the

Fact that he’s one of the single richest men in the entire universe like okay he’s had unbelievable success and it hasn’t found its way to him in football just yet uh and we’ll see if it does but the guy has had truly the mightest touch on everything so far up until this so

Let let’s give him a little bit of time let’s cut him a little slack and let’s see how it goes going forward but the guy is more successful than everybody in this universe and let’s see if he could uh carry it over to the football field not everybody the Walton came in and

Said yeah you’re not the richest in the NFL anymore we are but uh I certainly agree with what you’re saying and one of our favorite temper stories is the buying of the executive that didn’t give him a promotions house and then tearing it down and building a bigger one we

Assume he’s going to have success in the NFL but watching it all take place here we’re lucky to be in this era Chuck has a quick question about the Harbaugh situation that’s a big deal hey Chef see I know you got to run hey uh Harbaugh

Gets F hired first they still got to feel the GM role does this mean Harbaugh gets to pick the GM and if so who do you think it is well they just completed a second interview with Brandon Brown the uh Giants assistant general manager so clearly he’s got serious consideration

And I also just think that Joe Ortiz who has worked in the Baltimore front office for a long time also obviously would be another finalist he’s there today talking to the Chargers as well he would have the John haraba blessing and stamp of approval and and Joe Ortiz is batting

Last which I think a lot of times is a big advantage in interviews like this Brandon Brown’s wrapped up his second is going to be a GM in this league we don’t know whether it’s going to be now or with another team but his turn is coming

Uh but I like Joe Ortiz’s position having a relationship with John Harbaugh and batting last in LA right now so Jim’s gonna be the one calling the shots out there we can assume well I’m sure he’s going to work with the Spanos family to do it but he’s going to have a

Huge voice of course okay that’s sweet I can’t wait to see what he builds out there thank you so much for your time ladies and gentlemen Adam shefer thank and now joining us a man who has a plethora of knowledge on the matter ladies and gentlemen Michael Lombardi L

What’s up guys L how we doing busy day man wow awesome day awesome day this is a great day to chat with you too I mean been around the NFL for a hundred years three Super Bowls you’ve been a GM a consultant an advisor podcaster a live

Show host everything okay so you’re the perfect human for us to talk about let’s talk about the Harbaugh hire I think you were a part of actually Harbaugh’s first everever coaching gig in the NFL you told us last week now that he’s officially the Chargers head coach they

Haven’t hired a GM yet we just heard from Adam Scher he’s going to get to be able to build this culture in his vision and in his likeness you think this is an immediate win we all are assuming that and I think that’s just is that over

Reaction or is that real no I think it’s real look the one thing I think John mentioned this his brother and I think his brother nailed it he’s a great team Builder I think people think because John play Jim played quarterback in the NFL that he’s a play caller he’s an

Offensive coordinator coaching the quarterback no Jim’s a strategist Jim manages the entire game and he builds a culture and what the Chargers need was toughness mental and physical toughness and that’s Jim’s specialty highly competitive the ability to have competitive stamina every single day get better you know who has it better than

We do right you know that’s his Mantra and and that will transcend itself all throughout the organiz ation and he understands what he needs he develops coaches too I think that’s the other part too he’s demanding on the players in a good way he’s demanding on the

Coaches in a good way and I think those two things are exactly what the Chargers need and when he finds the right Personnel guy who is symbolic in terms of finding the talent that fits around him I think they’re Off to the Races look that West now you know you got two

Hall of Fame coaches and Shawn pton and Andy Reid you’re competing against right so you better bring something to the table here yeah the AFC West has become you know mustat over the last couple years especially because we’re in the middle of a potential Dynasty well definitely a dynasty but an extended

Dynasty taking place with the Chiefs and the Chargers ownership knew that right that’s like I think in the when the Patriots had their run bills ownership Jets ownership Miami ownership just in dumps every single year like yeah we got to play them twice actually so they’re beating the NFL AFC West with Patrick

Mahomes over there you’ve seen every team the come in they got the most amount of money we need to figure out how not to be just in the chief’s division Raiders have been making a bunch of moves Chuck’s going to ask you a question about that here in a little

Bit the Chargers doing the same thing I think we all very much appreciate is Herbert you know because we had shro on the show whenever we were in his studio in New York in December and he said that he and Harbaugh were at a mutual friends funeral rest in peace to whoever that

Was never said the per thing he said that whenever he talked to Harbaugh there they happen to be sitting next to each other Harbaugh spoke for five five minutes about how he thinks Herbert is the best Young quarterback in the NFL now he gets an opportunity to work with

Him with Harbaugh’s physical style I think what is it going to do for Herbert’s play and what do you expect from Herbert going forward that maybe we hadn’t seen in the past I I think what you’re going to see is the toughness that the team needs look you know this

Whole notion that one player wins Super Bowls in the NFL is somewhat ridiculous and people continue that narrative uh going forward it takes a team it takes a village to win a championship these four teams in the final four all have teams that work together with culture and they

Play off of one another they have great quarterbacks but they rely on other things what we do know about the NFL is one great player that’s not the NBA can’t get you to the Super Bowl we see that or else Warren Moon would have 20 Super Bowls Dan Marino would have 15

Brett Favre would have had 30 Aaron Rogers would have 20 I mean it’s ridiculous but what’s going to happen here is they’re going to have a team around Herbert and Herbert’s leadership is going to be Blended within the har philosophy they’re not going to put the game on his shoulders they’re going to

Put the game on the team’s shoulders and Herbert’s going to shine because he’s really talented and he’s going to show everybody how talented he is and all that stupid stuff about well he can’t come from behind and he can’t do this is going to go out the window because

They’re goingon to have a team that’s going to play well in all three phases that’s critical see team building is what matters today and Harbaugh’s going to build a team around a great quarterback which is going to make a great quarterback even better man culture matters so much and it gets

Talked about whenever it gets talked about but what culture is is you have a connected group and whenever you heard Jim Harbaugh talk I had a chance to interview him and he talked about like the team his team and Washington’s team he was like a team looks connected like

That is all he cares about is he wants his team together never heard a player that has played for Jim Harbaugh said a negative thing about him publicly everybody loves they have hilarious stories about just ridiculous I do too yeah I do too but everybody loves them

And I think it’s going to continue over there in LA and congrats on all the success seemingly on this particular day to the Chargers and to their fans now let’s stay in that division Chuck has a question for you hey lomos let’s pivot over to uh Raiders Tommy Tesco gets

Hired as the general manager how do you see I you know we all thought champ Kell was doing a nice job as the interim GM why not champ Tom comes in and how do you see that relationship between uh between Tom and AP working out well I I

Think it’ll work Tom’s one of those guys that can make it work you know I think he’s going to be liable uh to what he needs to do to help Antonio Pierce I think what Mark Davis decided was you know I can’t be too young I can’t be too

Old and I can’t be too young and he wanted somebody with experience I mean Antonio Pierce is a young coach and as a young head coach as you know Chuck there’s a lot of hurdles you’re gonna have to overcome now he’s got Marvin Lewis on the staff to help him and he’s

Got Tom Coughlin in his ear but this is a huge challenge all of a sudden now it’s your team and you’re going to have to build this thing from scratch and I think the experience is why Tesco got the job and it’s interesting because Tesco is a small school guy he likes to

Draft small school players he’s now in a building where Al Davis was like not interested in small school players he wanted School guys from Big schools size and speed and so there’s going to be a little bit of an adaptation that goes on within that place but I I think Tesa

Will help Antonio become the kind of Coach he has to become because he’s going to have some experience and be able to handle the storms that are about to embark on their team wow what an absurd situation that Tom Tesco goes from Chargers to Raiders in the division

African fired midseason and now he’s going to be tasked with building another great team in the image of the ra him and aumn win him and Antonio Pierce seem to be you know very similar two peas and a pot it should I hope it works out fantastic Conor question for

We love Tom love Tom Tom’s the only reason why I’m in the NFL so I appreciate the hell out of him did not expect him to get this job did you I didn’t expect him no I didn’t either I didn’t either I think to me he kind of

Was the he was the candidate that was that gave them the ability to cheap keep champ Kelly and and not have to change I think that was more important to Mark DAV I think Mark really likes champ Kelly wants to keep him in the building I think there was the organization

Wanted to keep him and I think the other people that came through the organization wanted to build their own front office and I think Tom is pretty much a kind of guy that can work around some of the areas where the owner wanted him to work around and good for him to

Get the job I I I you know it’s interesting he left he left Las Vegas getting beat 63 to whatever and he comes back as the GM not a bad provement right not bad at all uh Connor has a question for you yeah Alo two of the guys we

Thought were going to be hired and at least have a lot of interest for Mike Vel and Bill bich now the Falcons Falcons have had 14 head coaching interviews so maybe that is still very much on the table and they have another another second interview uh inperson interview rather today and now there’s

Only three jobs left and it didn’t doesn’t seem as though belich has any interest from Seattle and then the commies already came out and said hey we’re not hiring Bill bich what do you think that makes sense they’ve got a track record of success there that would make

Sense of course I would say that I would say that too yeah sure doesn’t really make much sense like what what is going on there it feels like it is becoming very real that belich is not going to coach next season at least as a head coach unless Atlanta hires him what do

You think happens there do you think he takes that year off and then comes back next year when some of the other jobs that were up in the year might be open and what do you think happens with Mike Vel too now that there’s only these

Three spots left well I can’t speak for Mike or Bill in terms of what they will do but what I can tell you is what’s going on in the league and it last year it was the same situation I mean Shawn pyton does not get the Denver job if de

Ryans takes it right I mean that was the only job he was up up for and he couldn’t get and Deo took Houston over Denver and that opened up the door for Shawn to get back in there look there there is it’s pretty obvious that these teams today they talk about winning they

Talk about all the things they want to do but they don’t really want to give somebody The Authority they need to build a culture they like their culture they don’t want to change and so when you have the greatest coach of all time out there and you’re in Carolina and you

Don’t even interview him what does that really say about your franchise and look Dave Canales could be the best coach ever I’m not disputing that but to me when you have a guy who’s got six Super Bowl trophies been to nine was the elite defensive coordinator in the league and

You’re not bringing him in or Mike brael what he’s done to me it’s it just says that we like our process we like everybody in a collaborative mode more than we want to just hand the keys to the store to somebody and I think to me it doesn’t really send the signal that

You’re really trying to win I mean are you really trying to get the best coach for your program and look I I I think it’s it’s it’s fairly obvious to me if I were a GM in the league and I had a chance to interview Vel I had a chance

To interview Bell that that’s what I would do because those guys could do it but really who’s judging them like you evaluate the evaluators here now let’s evaluate the evaluators for a second you bring in belich is really Terry fno interviewing belich I mean I’d like to

Watch that you know is is Dan Morgan interviewing belich about football about understanding the complexities of how to I mean come on seriously what you’re saying is that’s not for you and that’s fine they own the teams but if you’re talking about really trying to win and

You’re not even going down that road to me that are you really yeah it’s interesting and obviously you’re tight with Bill bellich and have had a lot of success and you know respect as we all do about Bill bich we’re all kind but it’s the same for Vel though like it

Forget my I don’t have a relationship with Mike I like Mike I know Mike we say hello I’ve never worked with Mike but like for me same thing with Pete Carol I mean Pete Carol’s a proven winner yeah he’s 72 and allegedly he was lobbying for the Los Angeles Chargers job but he

Was whenever you talk about like what was said about Lamar too whenever he was potentially available and teams were coming out of their way to come out and say we’re not interested we’re not interested a lot of the a lot of us were like why would you even say that

Publicly and there’s 14 interviews I think the Colts did 23 interviews like that for head coaching jobs and it’s like Bill bich not getting interviewed is a fascinating thing because we thought he would just pick where he wanted to go talk and now let the steams

Fall look at Doc Rivers Doc Rivers got a job and you know he pick picks the Milwaukee Bucks I mean it’s different in the NBA in the NFL it’s a little bit different you know and so you you got to understand the Rules of Engagement here right you got to understand that and

It’s fine teams can go ahead but don’t talk about winning don’t talk about yeah we’re going to hire the best guy what we’re talking about is protecting our desk that’s the great George Young’s line from 19 you know people want to protect their desk in the league they

Don’t want change yeah well change brings a lot of things a lot of energy has to be taken uh to make the change smooth uh there’s a full transition of power that has to take place a new way of doing things maybe a potential new building that you have to add on to

There’s a lot that you have to commit to potentially with all change let alone a bill bich coming in who’s potentially been you know the whole thing wild times we still don’t know how it’s going to shape up but excited to watch it unfold speaking of wild times Philadelphia’s in

The middle of an interesting one go ahead Ty yeah Lomo you’re obviously close to the situation I don’t know if you heard the press conference from I think yesterday yeah where you know they basically I think we actually have the clip if you can run that the offensive

Coordinator is going to be in charge of the offense and the defensive coordinator is could to be in charge of the defense what is your role going today the head coach so Lomo is it really as simple as like like in serani right now obviously you know we talked

All season about them having two new coordinators and how big of a difference that is they bring in vic fangio haven’t got an offensive guy yet like is he so he’s going you know we talk about team building like what the hell is going on in Philly what are the expectations for

Serani like is it almost setting up where if they don’t have a good year again this year then maybe fangio gets a crack at being the head coach like what the hell is going on in Philly you know two years removed from the Super Bowl and it kind of feels like everything is

Crumbling down well I I think what serani said I wanted the head coach well the head coach if you’re not going to call offense or defensive play you got to be the strategist you got to be able to say okay here’s how we want to play

The game this weekend here’s what I want offensively philosophically here’s what I want philosophically defensively and in the kicking game and this is how I want the team to work operate and I’m going to make sure during the season we’re doing all those things and that’s

Not just going to team meetings which he said later maybe I’ll go to a defensive meeting maybe I’ll go to the Special Teams no that’s about being the CEO of the football program which involves coaching the coaches right now I don’t think he’s going to walk in Vic’s room

And tell Vic what he wants to do defensively but he’s going to have to have a relationship with Vic to say hey look this week I think we need to do this to take away what they do or we need to run the offense this week this way to take advantage of their

Weaknesses and strength that to me is a strategist and when you remove yourself from a tactician which is calling plays to a strategist you got to see the whole entire game as a head coach now will that happen in Philly I don’t know I mean it’s going to be fascinating to see

Because he’s going to have to instill his leadership and the players are going to have to feel that he’s impacting all three areas or else his voice is going to become less and less it’s a challenge right he worked with the offense last year he didn’t call the plays but he was

Instrumental in the game planning so now he’s going to remove himself from that role and then he’s going to have to fill in a role as the head coach so it’s going to be really interesting to see how it all plays out because a lot of the coaches that are being hired today

Are hired because of their tactics right I mean d Dave Canales got the job in Carolina because I’m sure they sat there and said look Canales did something to Baker Mayfield that we couldn’t do he got him to play really well and his relationship with Dan Morgan going back

To their time together in Seattle but when they hire Canalis he’s going to be a tactician he’s not going to be the strategist and I think there lies the difference in what we’re talking about well I think you had a tweet about that earlier today whenever skip bayis said

Something about Tom Brady ran the offense oh yeah yeah and you were talking about that was Bill bich thing right he was strategist obviously but not only strategist culture and Nick serion would go on to talk about I’m the one that’s instilling the culture making sure the culture is around I’m the one

Who’s talking offense defense special teams and you basically told skip bis like you have no clue what happened in that building which this has been happening to skip a lot as of late feels like it is dunk on skip bayis season more than it is I’m not dumping on him I

Gave him Pat I gave him the Sopranos Tony Soprano line with all due respect he had no he has no idea what’s going on in that building like I gave him the respect he’s earned for what he’s doing with Fox and what he’s done done but he

Has no understanding of it you know he doesn’t understand he’s never been in a room you have you know you know what the Chuck has it’s it’s a lot to go to it to to basically say that statement is really not you you have no idea and I SP

All doe respect to him I mean let’s just do you have no idea so whatever you say after that who falls along then you have no idea but you can say people say anything today they say whatever the hell they want none of it’s true buddy

Even if something is proved to be the exact opposite they will still run with whatever they said the first time if they said it publicly it’s it’s a pretty big societal issue that has to come to a head at some point we would assume but football is certainly subjective in

Everybody’s eyes except for whenever there’s a matter of fact in in front of him but serani taken that question wild he’s in the Super Bowl two years ago and then it’s like these Eagles reporters are getting a sense of how Philadelphia feels you’re like what exactly do you do

Here yeah we see you talk after games we see you have big Dom next to you what do you what do they basically think coach serani seemingly some of the Eagles fans think yeah you guys think I’m a big dumb I mean guys lucky I didn’t hop over the podium go down

There and smack goddamn teeth out what I wanted to I digress we love serani around here we literally do but if you’re not winning nowadays anywhere you’re ask can get God and these reporters shout out to them they’re taking like tweets that are from 12y olds to 13y olds and they’re they’re

Picking them questions now in press conferences with badges like the questions that are being sent now are more aggressive than they have ever been in the past I think personally which I appreciate me too well me too evaluate the evaluator like it takes expertise to ask the right questions right so

Evaluate the evaluator look I think to me what what you see like what we see with Kansas City right that’s what a head coach does Andy Reid after Christmas Day decided look this offensive Line’s not playing well we can’t keep doing what we’re doing and he strategized a way to change what they’re

Doing now their offensive line has played way better since that game incredibly better they dominated a buffalo team up front they had the ball for 22 minutes out gained them they dominated that game it was unbelievable 37 minutes the bills had the ball they pushed around the they pushed around the

Bills defensive line which would make you concerned if you’re a Bills fan right it didn’t come down to that but but the key point I want to make here is read the deciding how to play the game differently than he did earlier in the year and he got momes to buy into it

That’s what great head coaches do that’s what you see when you can see the future just a little bit and you change the course of your team that was really good now to me can serani do that well this year we didn’t see him do that because

His team was falling slowly and slowly wasn’t in shape were condition and he didn’t change it so he’s going to have to change that role two new coordinators first time he’s had to deal with that happening I assume he’s going to learn from it move on we think serion is good

Coach oh now he could prove to be otherwise I guess as we go forward but we are firmly in that Pisano’s Camp speaking of Pisano tone has a question for you Mike yeah lumbo let’s go to the field this weekend two incredible matchups uh I feel like when you look at

Detroit and San Francisco they’re like looking at the Mir in the mirror at each other with starting up front starting in the Run game playing off the play action defenses could be susceptible in the secondary and then you go to the AFC Championship Mahomes 91 and one is a dog

He’s a dog this weekend on the road against the number one seed Ravens what are your thoughts uh on this weekend’s games and how do you see him going well I mean look I think the Lions have been what Dan Campbell’s personality has been they they have not played I would say

Great defense over the last five weeks Nick Mullin threw for 411 they gained 411 uh I think he had 396 in the second game Dak had 345 and the two playoff games Stafford and Mayfield threw for over 300 yards 367 to 349 but what they’ve been able to do is is they make

Plays in critical times of the game right they get Negative plays and they get sacks and they kind of find a way when things are going bad to fix it it’s going to be a real challenge here for them to slow down this 49er attack I don’t anticipate the 49ers struggling to

Move the football like they did a little bit against Green Bay were pry not playing well now I know the Debo Factor there but this to me is going to come down to two things can the 49ers defensive front take over the game they couldn’t against Green Bay Green Bay

Moved the ball for the first six drives they had a great quarterback rating and Jordan love and then it kind of they adjusted the game out and got it I think this is a game where both teams are going to score I think and the 49ers will take advantage later in the game

Because it’s going to be hard for this Lions defense which is weak in the back end to kind of find a way to stop this 49er attack in the other game I think you have to throw out all the numbers right like everybody keeps saying well Pat Mahomes against Baltimore and the

Defense it’s this is a different Baltimore team than it’s been right they are way different and they’re very good at pressuring the passer and I think they’re going to have to put some heat on on it and they got to stop PCO I think when when when they look at the

Tape when Reed looks at the tape he’s going to watch that Ram tape and see that the Rams ran the football on Baltimore if they can run the ball on Baltimore that’s going to be key and if Baltimore can run the ball on Kansas City which every team has done and if

You look at the metrics whether it’s you EPA or any of the analytics people have run the ball on the Chiefs all right so it sounds like you are Ravens Niners I I kind of I I know that sounds chalky I think I would if the line move

Seven and a half today the line moved to seven and a half today uh for the Lions I think that might be the right play I think the Lions one thing the lions are they’re not going home they’re not gonna they’re going to compete their tail off

And how do you go against I mean if you’re G to get so many points with Mahomes I think it’s a field goal game I really do but I think these two teams Baltimore and San Francisco are the two best teams now San Francisco defensively everybody talks about py this poor kid

Plays good and everybody keeps crapping on him I don’t understand what he everybody I don’t understand what did he do to everybody it wasn’t his fault he was a seventh pick I mean like I don’t understand what this poor kid has done to everybody it gets him so mad but I

Don’t expect him to play poorly but what that has to happen is what’s gone unnoticed is that 49er front they’ve got a lot of money in it they got Bosa making a ton of money they got hardgrave they got Armstead Chase Chase Chase they got all those guys makeing Chase young

Right they got play they’re going to have to bring it they’re gonna and this is a good line for Detroit they’re going to have to play better than they did last week you bring it every time we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen the Lombardi line in GM Shuffle podcast Michael

Lombardi let go to that other game in Baltimore obviously you were a defense coordinator over there in Baltimore uh something that we’ve chatted about is HomeField Advantage being real Baltimore is a real HomeField advantage over there with the way that team plays as well Chuck absolutely you saw what happened

To Houston you know a week ago all the pre- snap penalties the false starts the neutral zone all that stuff so yeah it’s hu MNT will be rocking I I just read I saw on on X that you know Ed and Ray are going to be there as Legends of the game

T Payne’s performing at halftime Jonathan Ogden as the honorary Captain T who T pay is he going to bring the pain no no no he’s bringing uh that’s he’s not not D Moran I don’t know I got to I don’t know if I know oh T pay you know T

Pay come on Chuck yeah all I do is when it’s it’ll be Electric it’ll be unbelievable environment so the thing about t pay is uh he figured out how to autotune his voice to sound awesome like always musically a genius I think is the documentary that I wrote pretty much for

Him to find how to get his voice to sound like this and he just took over and then there was a war against him you know the two biggest stars on Earth basically said death of autotune and autotunes ruin a business and I believe urer baby uh user who’s performed

Halftime actually told him that he killed music can ruin music like aiish no it’s autotune it’s just like everybody can sing pretty much it just makes your voice sound good so he has an entire run where he just makes hundreds of millions we assume then he starts a

Twitch account has his whole new life pretty much leg hilarious human being and then he sings without the a he’s a better singer than everybody else he’s like uh he’s a weapon T is a absolute weapon song Chuck I heard you in the shower today you listen no I’m in love

With the stripper yeah oh that’s him yeah yeah I can take you to a mansion somewhere in Wisin that’s him as well was him and J Wisin yeah well you got to make it that’s music they say he deserves award for rhyming that together yeah that’s actually one of the greatest

Bars in the history of Music D he didn’t do It’s Hard Out Here for a Pimp did he no I think that was way before Teddy Payne became a uh but good a musical you know it’s hard out here for pimp okay yeah I don’t know play that

Money with the Cadillac and G money spent you have a whole lot of Jumping Ship there it is thank you Chuck I don’t know if T Ban’s going to be playing that this weekend but M Banks’s going to be going crazy I think Jimmy’s doing one of those tail goats too yep

Don’t go don’t go please don’t go you seen any of the videos from these things yeah they look czy they look so I thought I saw Sha’s going to be there yeah DJ diesel yeah so I mean Baltimore’s going to be upside down one the past DJs put out one of the best

Videos you’ve ever DJ Paul D check out his video from the tail go yeah him voicing over the whole video is certainly entertaining um the weather was bad though what do you expect for DJ poly D his hair was good though it was the rain didn’t affect it but Baltimore

Is going to be alive and with the way they play you know they can really get out of control oh yeah but Patrick Mahomes would love to go in there hour two on the other side with AJ Hawk be a friend tell a friend something nice take three

Three hi how’s it going my name is Pat mcky used to hold balls for Adam Ben and Terry now I’m in his home state college game day is absolutely electric and Brooking go let’s go college game day has made the voyage to Brooking South Dakota to

Experience a game with the best fans in college [Applause] football I unfortunately cannot attend because I have a game this Sunday so I sent a man I trust to make my picks a man who was my holder for almost a decade please be nice to him welcome this week celebrity guest picker Pat

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The face serious go go yes these teams with that 15 they celebrate by doing shotguns and I a big fan of that I’m going with the University of Virginia C that was great I will never ever inory but I’m going with Trey please excuse my dumb friend

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That Chuck a man of fine Taste of course is what you are what is cactus pets right there that you’re wearing on your uh that’s uh little Cino down in uh Jackpot Nevada okay short ride uh shout out to yeah Michael and what they they youe Room free room out of this thing

Believe me it wasn’t just we’ve given we’ve no we’ve given enough to where okay all right all right good Cactus feed sounds like a blast though he was talking about an off Thrive there he’s like 2our ride for me and Tina they got everything you need there look at

This place lights don’t even worse they got a steak house in there called steak 36 what chck you’re the best you’re the you are the absolute best you’re a beauty pal you know that a beauty I couldn’t even imagine the hills that this is in can’t believe you found the

Photo of it that is awesome yeah great work back there Zito and it’s awesome I think with the price some people would pay for that particular real estate on your chest I think you own Cactus pizza right I you potentially own Cactus Pizza I’m happy to hear that your losses

Haven’t gone to the lights keep it hey old school Cactus old school joining us now in an attic in Ohio is a college football National Champion a Super Bowl champion a Ridder Cup winner and a man who I think we all have respect for because he’s the president of Ohio amen

He’s 40 years old AJ Hawk Hawker your old ass congratulations to your Ohio State Buckey the big bad wolf in Ann Arbor Jim Harbaugh officially out at Michigan now head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers is there a parade in the streets of Columbus that the Buckeye killer has

Finally left college ball well I don’t I mean do you feel like that would be the sentiment of people I feel like people don’t want him to leave because they want another crack at him they want a chance to try to beat him now that he has had some success against the bucke

Guys I guess that’s how I would look at it that’s such a good Ohio way to look at something oh you think we’re celebra he’s leaving no we wanted to be the one to sent him out in an ambulance I love everything about that I didn’t say that

I didn’t say anything about ambulance well not you but your constituents in Ohio are certainly thinking that and it’s going to be hard to get harb on an ambulance I’m going to tell you the amount of milk he drinks too the calcium rolling through his bones but the story

Is that have rolled out from his players are nothing about respect and obviously he is a hilarious individual we’ve talked basically for 45 minutes of the first 57 minutes about how big of a home run higher this seems to be for the Los Angeles Chargers who was the bell of the

Ball this coaching cycle seemingly everybody wanted Harbaugh to be the next head coach of their team at the age of 60 fresh off a national championship do you agree with our sentiment and is there any other thing that we haven’t really brought up you think that hasn’t

Been chatted about that you haven’t seen no I mean I I think it absolutely makes sense I know Chuck even said like everything kind of lines up for this to to be a great spot for Jim Harbaugh to go now we know he’s always been I don’t

Know intrigued by the NFL and he had he had a lot of success as an NFL coach the short period of time he was there in the league so yeah I guess he was just waiting for the right place right time and all of a sudden you go undefeated

Win the national championship there’s no better time to go and try to take a take another gig and win a Super Bowl now as a head coach that’s the only thing really left he has to check off the list only coach in the history of college ball to win the national championship

Then go to the NFL and I would argue that that’s a reason why he is the guy he is you know and his dad came out and gave a speech about you know people call him my son Cory and he said well if Cory is having your entire team Buy in and

Play tough and play good football everywhere you’ve ever been then I hope that I’m described as Quirky as well quirky could be described as a decision whenever you have all the leverage in the world at a university even with a potential NCAA ruling coming down where you you win them a national championship

First Time in Forever you get them back to Greatness and get them back to prominence there’s a lot of people that want you everywhere the amount of Leverage that normal college football coaches would utilize there to get the biggest deal in the history of the world

To be able to just sit there continue to do what they did in Michigan is something I think almost everybody well his history tells us everybody has done in the past and instead he’s like nah that was awesome yeah Michigan’s back sh more the guy for it anyways all

Right yeah sweet good luck I hope you do great I’m pulling for you anything you need anything you need from me you’re good Michigan man and he’s like I want to go climb another hill now at the age of 60 you know he he got up to the top

He built a program that’s at the top the amount of work it takes to climb up to the top the amount of that you have to go through to get all the way up to the top the recruiting the scandals the drama the motivating the workouts the practices the strategy the the

Travel the game everything that he had to do to get to the top there at the age of 60 he could have just been like this we’re going to continue this we’re going to run this this is my life’s work this is what I’m supposed to do but instead

To be like no I’m GNA go right down to the bottom of another mountain and be like here we go a lot more things out of his control with the salary cap and everything like that that he had control of in college obviously he had a lot of

Success whenever he was the ners head coach he’s the winningest coach in the NFL currently as soon as he gets back in there by percentage wise but him choosing to get back down to bottom and build up another thing I think that says a lot about his character as well it’s

Not really being talked about yeah absolutely and you just think about what Sabin said you know a month or two ago about the whole nil situation and how like hey the guys in the NFL have it great as well and college has changed so much and he had to work through that

Like when he first went to Michigan nil wasn’t a thing he had to like adjust to all those things on top during it yeah when during it when before it cuz obviously it’s Michigan and then the fact that they were able to go all the

Way helps a lot and it does feel like that this is by far the higher of the off season and that’s crazy to say with B Bill bich still being out there yeah and Mike Vel hembo sent me some stats about the 49ers team whenever Harbaugh

Was leading them oh I like that um Here We Go identity of Jim Harbaugh’s NFL team which is using numbers from 2011 through 14 with 49ers uh win line of scrimmage in the Run game they outrushed their opponent by 3,22 yards during those years sorry what largest margin in

The NFL 3,22 yard advantage over all their opponents whenever they were uh when harball was with 49ers now remember Kaepernick that was before everybody so he’s wide away giveaway takeaway premium 66 giveaways which were tied for the fewest in the NFL and 122 takeaways which was tied for fourth most in the

Entire NFL during those thing so he has just like these old school traits I assume and the margin was plus 56 there you do the math which which is the second best in the NFL in the history behind only New England so that’s the greatest Dynasty in the history of the

Sport he puts big plays as a premium his offense created the fourth most explosive plays in the entire NFL whenever he was there allowed the fourth fewest explosive plays on the defensive side which is obviously the second best margin only behind Seattle at the time which Seattle was in the middle of

Legion AB boom they play heavy on offense they lived in 21 and 22 Personnel on on 42% of their plays which is the highest percentage in the NFL 11 personnel was on 25% of the plays which is the fewest in the NFL they live under Center and they have a perimeter Run

Game is what they basically went through so everything that’s like old school football is seemingly what hard ball is and we had Kaylin dbor on yesterday and he talked about coaching at sou Falls in Washington now at Alabama he’s like football is football you know football is football feels like Harbaugh views it

The same way and the Harbaugh family views it the same way Chuck he’s had a formula for winning wherever he’s been in that formula you remember how we had this we kind of kind had a similar formula I learned it from John at at the Ravens the it starts with a quarterback

Right protect your effect theirs right the ball is the program right so keep it take it away Bingo run the ball stop the run he’s going to build the thing from inside out right he’s going to start in the trenches fundamentals and technique right put a premium on those situational

Football those stats just show you so he’s going to get there he’s going to figure out okay roster what do we have what do we need what do I got to do to change he’s always been tight end Centric the big guys to your point hembo

Stat about 21 and 22 Personnel so it’ll be interesting to see cuz the the NFL right now you don’t play but like base defense we are base 3 four you don’t play but maybe 22 to 24% of Base because everybody’s in three wides now 11 person

One back one tight down so you’re in sub most of the time you know so you’re going to play You’re if you play 1,000 plays you’re going to play 750 plays in nickel defense cuz everybody else is an 11 so it’ll be interesting to see what

He does with uh with that outfit now with that being said with the modern NFL that’s why the Ravens have had success cuz they’re heavy that’s why the Niners have had success still operating with the fullback that’s like that is kind of so they got both right so the Ravens

Finally evolved under monin right boom so Greg Roman heavy heavy heavy tight end Centric he comes from that same program with Harbaugh right with Jim and so he comes in there Z flowers now baitman obj in there Andrews so they still if they had to they got reir they

Can get big when they need to get big but they also can spread you out and throw the ball now which we assume Herbert will be able to do with hard ball if needed they got Keenan Allen I see him still on the football yeah and it’s funny you guys say tight end

Centric because you know mock draft season has started and it’s a unanimous at number five Brock po Chargers Brock poers Jim Harbaugh I can’t wait for the first thing he has to say about Brock Bowers like just the way man this guy so F so fast like the way he talks

Is oneof one as well never scared to be himself either like not going to try to not going to try to just the way he describes thing so good for NFL media cannot cannot stress this enough AJ Hawk I think we’re going to get plenty of

Good uh sound bites both uh after wins and after losses but he is always the same guy like no matter what he does always seem to be Hardball he’s never putting on an act like I remember playing against him he the when he was with San Francisco They Came to Green

Bay I don’t know what time of the year it was it was cold we played him there was like a TV timeout in Hardball was killing this ref he was going after ref out like on the hash and one of their players I looked at and he just kind of

Looked at me and shook his head and he’s like he’s crazy as hell man he’s a great coach that’s all told I’m like all right I get it like I get it respect I understand and so like he he has had like why is he able to have success in

The NFL and college we know how difficult that can be for some people I guess it’s just because Jim is Jim no matter what right well and also I think he was a player so you and I both know long time yeah long you and I both know

That if a player is standing in front of us everybody’s going to immediately be like all right this is coming from a guy who has at least done it now when he was playing it was three a days and training camp was four weeks long and and he’s

Got imagine the shots he probably took too as a quarterback back when you could hit the quarterback just they didn’t have the technology yet either to put the carbon fiber on the spine or anything like that just taking and how big he is is he’s a lumbering fell so

He’s going to take massive shots so I think players in the NFL would naturally give him more respect you know I I think that is a natural it gets you in the door I think obviously you have to prove that you are knowledgeable and yeah you

May have we know some some ex players that also people don’t respect a whole lot that get up there and they try to mail it in They Don’t Really Care and they think they can half ass the whole coaching gig we know Hardball is not that guy Bing don’t never half asked in

I think Hardball in Greek is actually never half asked never for the whole the whole family but even what you mentioned with like the draft and how the team’s built like look at their last three draft picks like it was quen Johnson wide receiver sure maybe not exactly but then

They went guard Zion Johnson and then they went tackle ran Slater the year before so like they have young Talent up front not just not just Herbert and obviously got they got a pay guys and they’re 40 million under the cap but they’ve they’ve already talked about you

Know khil Mack probably gone that’s going to save a bunch of money Eckler’s gone Kean Allen’s the one that they’re like floating out there but because of hard Baugh why would he in being a quarterback he’s not going to get rid of the best receiver on the team by especially underappreciated oh yeah

Feels like Harbaugh and Keenan Allen are sympatico yeah it does little bit it does feel like that is potentially a story that could grow well him and Herbert I think are going to get along perfectly what were you going to chime in with just his ability to uh connect

We talk about being able to coach and reach college kids develop them and do the same thing in the National Football League I mean look they’re football lifers right they grew up in a football family with their dad Jack that’s that’s all they know that’s all they love and

They’ve been around they’ve been in lock rooms their entire life growing up as so he’s he has he understands it he has an ability uh to connect and he can all and he’s smart and he can develop somebody just mentioned you got to earn the respect of those guys right so once you

Go in you show them yeah I can help you get to because all they care about in the National Football League can you get me to the next contract we want to win and all that but individually can you get me from this first one to the next

One and once they figure that out that you can okay this guy knows what the freak he’s talking about well winning helps with all that and winning certainly helps with all that yeah and that leads to winning I think too if you get everybody do you win because you’re

Happy are you happy because you win I believe you win because you’re happy I believe when everybody’s all in that is when success follows as opposed to everybody buys in after you have success but I could be wrong obviously that’s the whole thing when you talk about connecting and buy in and everybody

Believe in doesn’t happen everywhere it’s Vic fi over Miami with the dolphins all the reports all the reports of that paon just couldn’t connect with his defense Drew rosenhouse gave a statement basically uh during an interview there was Omar Kelly who was covered the Miami Dolphins for a very

Long time basically said that a topic of discussion for a lot of defensive players in the McD exit interviews were like yeah we just don’t really like playing for this guy guy sucks this just ain’t how it’s going to go there’s been alleged situations with Jaylen Ramsey

Has come out and been frustrated with the way he’s being used or how it’s happening and seemingly he’s not the only one so I think he signed a four-year deal to be the defense coordinator down there uh it doesn’t make its way into the second year and

Now he’s with the Eagles and the Dolphins are allegedly looking at Brandon Staley who if you do recall Jaylen Ramsey was playing great football with when Staley was the DC of the Los Angeles Rams Bubba Gino do we know that this was Vic fi over so quickly I had a

Weird feeling this was coming for some reason I don’t know why but the whole secondary appears to have not liked Vic at all it was nobody not chub not anybody who played dline linebackers it was only the secondary who appears to have an issue uh I would rather not have

Staley but uh let’s see what happens he was a good DC that’s why he got the head coach remember he’s a quarterback who play who’s a DC the eyes of a quarterback boom so he’s the perfect mix maybe the head coaching role just wasn’t for maybe Vel

Doesn’t get a head coaching gig maybe belich doesn’t get a head coaching gig you know bich coming down to Miami to be a DC seems a bit farfetched but let’s shoot for the stars why not we were paying uh Vic fangio 10 million bucks so you know why not okay so allegedly

Staley I don’t know if that’s been made official that’s just the internet was kind of placing him there uh as the new DC Vic fangio does end up going to Philly in like a day that’s like less than 12 hours AJ it’s pretty wild to see what’s taking place a lot of turnover

Seemingly happening pretty quickly here around the NFL yeah I want to ask Chuck actually like so Chuck as a head coach if you’re doing exit interviews and you have multiple players and not guys that are scrapping for time and maybe disgruntled because they’re not getting enough time like you have legit starters

Coming to you and multiple guys say hey they don’t like this guy they don’t like how they’re being utilized they don’t like the scheme what do you do like do have you ever been in that situation yeah you have you know you don’t name names to me AJ it’s it’s like there’s

Some programs that do really really good that don’t Foster that kind of stuff they want they want to listen to their players okay and they want to get idea whatever see what’s good what’s working you can have you know um what do we that leadership group we had Council and it

Wasn’t we we put that together and it wasn’t what I told him in the beginning like this isn’t for you guys to come in and and moan and complain about you know I’m not dealing with the eggs are too runny you know stuff like that you know let’s talk about the team let’s

Talk about what we can do better to win you know stuff like that so on those exit interviews yeah guys have come in and they speak their mind you’re going to listen to the guys AJ that probably deserve you know the head coach’s ear the front office whoever right they’ve

Earned that and you’re going to try to filter through it may and to me personally you’re going to say okay can this be salvaged or you he you hear so much that you know and then you go to the DC right away Chuck do you go to

That coach right away and like he I got a lot of guys I got a handful of guys that are saying this is not what we should be doing and this doesn’t seem like this this had to be going on and there had to be conversations and my

Point to coaches and players was like if like they’re going to look for a shoulder to cry on players will and if they can’t go to their position coat they’re going to go to another guy and I always told those if you get a disgruntled employee right and he comes

To you and he starts bitching about me or he starts bitching about another one you say whoa whoa whoa you’re talking the wrong dude this is a conversation for you and your position coach so go in there manto man and shut the door and have that conversation this isn’t for me

They would come into my office coaches players and I would say the same thing I’d pump the brakes I said whoa have you had a conversation with Vic have you sat down manto man with Vic and and aired these feelings and if you haven’t then you need to get up out of

My office right now and go see him yeah and try to figure it out as Somebody almost fist fought a special teams coordinator uh on practice field that is certainly an awkward situation though potentially going forward but normally when it gets to this point everybody kind of feels that way right isn’t it

Like the majority of the people don’t you think that that is is kind of like people aren’t just speaking up if it’s just one or two people like I was not going to put myself in the position that I was going to put myself in if I didn’t

Feel like this is how every human feels I think that has been on display here in the last couple weeks pretty publicly I think we had to deal with it yes ex firsthand and you have a conversation here’s okay here’s the expectations here’s how we’re going to

Do business okay we’re not mfing these guys in front of their you know we’re going to treat them like men we’re going to have grown men conversations tell them what’s doing good and this ain’t good enough right now and have those closed doors and and that’s got to be

Constant but then you have a conversation doesn’t get fixed then you have another one doesn’t get fixed then you have a third doesn’t get fixed okay now it’s time we got to do something I do wonder how MC because mcdo super pro player down there remember like Hey

We’re not risking anybody’s injury we’re not doing anything this High Vibes great coach I’m not saying he’s not a great coach but he is a very Pro player coach I wonder if it was also maybe other coaches saying like hey this ain’t seemingly this doesn’t feel like it’s

The right fit as well you know they played good yeah they were a good freaking defense and then they lost Phillips they lost chub they lost some guys they didn’t have they didn’t have Jaylen early Jaylen came back right after the knee he didn’t play Early gets

Two picks in that one game right and starts balling they were a top five defense so Philly’s pumped oh yeah jacked up Philly is very pumped we get an Italian in here M okay and also a known guy I mean you got serani fio and we know exactly what you’re getting with

Fio right don’t you don’t you kind of know what you’re getting with Vic like serion the eagles even the players if they do a little research know exactly Vic’s not a he’s not a screamer and hauler he’s a he’s a tactician he’s a big brain guy he’s got

His de and no he knows what he wants he teaches it and and he’s up front not you know good for Philly now Miami will figure it out just wasn’t right for them right c yeah the uh cam Smith they drafted in the second round cornerback

Did not play one single snap this season and that was uh he was the first guy to tweet out he tweeted out just a lock Emoji oh nice we got to go back and rewatch Hard Knocks now the End season he wasn’t will be wasn’t really on it

Yeah but even just The Vibes of the defense like there was that one scene where McDaniel’s running around to everybody talking a whole bunch of junk and there was one group and I’m not this isn’t Like A bash towards them but when they go when he goes over to the DBS

Jaylen Rams he doesn’t even turn around to acknowled back yeah and that’s the head coach so like just the just that little scene as a Vibe feels like that’s a problem yeah so that Philadelphia Eagles Situation’s hilarious yeah you got a you got a millennial like lot of

Love and respect for Mike MCD what was that Chuck and then you got keep whatever it was just might have been oil oil gas you got a 6768 year old school guy and then you got the you know guy in J un what did you say cuz Vic is Vic

Taller than him or that was just age scale no age this okay it’s and he’s a I mean proven to be a really good coach but it just might be just like shouldn’t that be the best staff though Chuck have the best staff to have a mixture of hey we got some

Tough old school hard noos guys mixed in with the younger gen generation I would want that in theory smart smart guys lot smarter than me guys that you can go to as a first-time head coach like I was I was very lucky to have ba right guy

That’s been around the block smart as hell all that stuff right where it knock on the door hey you got a second not scared no can I you got a second go in and close the door and say hey look this is what we got going on what do you

Think you don’t if you got a bunch of young guys never been around the block and never done anything who you going to go to as the head coach you’re on an island and scared to death to give you the real opinion too chuck if they

You don’t want a bunch of guys just to be yes man well and some guys might not know what the right answer is either you know so they might be given an answer that they don’t even know if it’s the right answer so having somebody who’s been there done that’s good which is

Like the Tom Tesco hire for the Raiders for Antonio Pierce he’s obviously been a GM a long time he was with Bill poon at the Indianapolis Colts I think he was with Bill poon at the Carolina Panthers he was with Bill poon at the Buffalo Bills obviously they were a part of

Building up all three of those programs at the time into winning franchises and into those ones that every team is hoping to become so then when he gets his opportunity with chargers he was there a long time over a decade yeah he was there a long time fired midseason

Which I think surprised all of like damn firing a GM and a head coach mid-season and then without even missing a year he’s the head coach within the division or the GM in the division of the Raiders and I think you listen to Chuck talk you

Listen a lot of people around the NFL the reason why they’re saying they think that Davis loved him so much as like experience Antonio Pierce although he is a great player and is shown to be a great coach there’s going to be that’s going to pop up there’s going to

Be stuff that’s going to pop up and having somebody that’s been in in that chair that’s been there done that is a good play and then you look over at the Carolina Panthers okay Dan Morgan who I I’m just learning about I love him I I

He’s the man he’s awesome okay from what I’ve heard I love him never been a GM before Canalis never been head coach before he’s an author though deep thinker they’re both very deep thinkers we assume that they’ll have success because we like to bestow optimism on every situation but it’s like yet again

Tepper’s in a situation where but he tried Frank Reich I guess is what he was thinking I tried experience before it didn’t work now I’m going brand new I guess we never know we have no idea if any of these hes are good right now shf

Put out a tweet kind of updating the entire situation around the NFL the commanders do not have a head coach but everybody’s thinking that’s Ben Johnson everybody’s thinking the Detroit Lions Ben Johnson’s going to go over there Bobby slowick offense coordinator for the Texans name has been linked to the

Commanders but as of right now no hiring Seahawks they have Dan Quinn in there for a second in-person interview obviously he had great success with the Seahawks whenever he was the leader of the legion of boom back in the day Atlanta Falcons have interviewed Harbaugh Bill bich Vel Raheem

Morris slowick Bobby slowick they’ve tried everybody out everybody thought they were potentially going the bich route now that it’s a wide openen case jefer says after interviewing bill bich you would assume maybe they are thinking about very much moving on from bich and one of these other dudes potentially has

An option Chargers Raiders Patriots Titans Panthers Don three still left at the moment AJ any of those super surprising to you any of those a thought of what you think will get finished next what are your thoughts on this situation of the current hiring cycle I mean I

Would imagine what the Falcons might be next or the Seahawks if they do bring if they do officially sign Dan Quinn did belich do a second interview with the Falcons do we know yes yep so he did a second interview they let him out of the place when they knew he wasn’t getting

Courted by a bunch of other teams like yeah that shows that they they’re not dead serious about signing at least right now I mean they still could end up doing it but yeah that I wonder how those interviews go I really do like what do they what does he want to make

Sure is in place if he’s there I man I wish they filmed these things we got to watch some of them so rael’s interviewing in there today I believe yep and then he had a flight to the Panthers allegedly scheduled but that’s obviously gone now because Canalis gets

A head coaching job so if you think about bich Harbaugh and Vel it’s like Arthur Blank is seemingly trying to bestow yeah for sure you know a little bit of a hard noos type culture in there at the head coaching position what do you think and what’s fugay and what’s

Not fugay obiously appealing job too we talked about the talent on that that Atlanta team got a good you got you need a quarterback probably e pick in the D yeah good pick yeah but I don’t know what their their cap deal is I don’t know what if they have Capital to move

Up you know with that eighth pick to try to get something higher to get in the get in the money for trying to get up Drake May or k I don’t think they can go that far but Jaden Daniels has they got players passed Drake May on the most

Recent Mel Kyper mock draft he’s two now yeah well herb Street said that the Army Navy game whenever we were up there uh doing the show he said Jaden Dan I think Jaden Dan was the Patriots thought there was a chance I was praying that you’d be

Able to get him maybe with a second pick you have in the first draft in the teens or whatever because nobody’s really talking about him as an NFL prospect he would obviously go on to win the Heisman and then people like Kirk Herbst stre would come out and say

Once they talk to this guy and once they get to know him and learn his story and watch his film Jaden Daniels is going to Skyrocket in the NFL conversation that’s happened before the even interview process started with Jaden Daniels good for him Drake may obviously still up in

A conversation he didn’t win a lot of games that’s all right what do you mean I mean how many games did he start though I think that’s a huge deal how many games they actually play played a lot of football lot a lot of football which we’re I think we’re finding out

Like well nothing is 100 % nothing’s concrete but that does help you I think when you have a bunch of reps already under your belt by the time you get to the league at the quarterback position especially another thing that NFL people will like or certain NFL people will

Like he was offered like 5 million or something to go play somewhere else and he said nah I’m staying in North Carolina I love staying here like that says a lot about him older brother’s very competitive loves ball loves competing he’s huge huge he is Hu I got

A chance to see him that’s like Aiden Hutchinson when I saw Aiden Hutchinson you’re like you forget like what a specimen this thing is Monster holy when I met Drake may it was the same thing I’m like why am I looking up at I didn’t think I was going to be he’s like

How tall is he like 66 he’s 64 23 he’s like man I remember we played the col pton yes and he’s big like his presence is Big good basketball player obviously his old brother’s good good golfer good football player obviously very they say his football IQ yeah

Quarterback coach so you know like if he goes to Bama or if he goes to some other school that was thinking Ohio State if Drake May was the quarterback good Conor if Drake May was the quarterback of Ohio State this past year first overall yeah I think so they’re probably winning the

Entire thing yeah but Caleb Williams obviously people are saying once in a generation and when you watch him play college ball he’s electrifying will he be able to play that same style in the NFL that’s the only question yeah like I’m excited to see if he can he’s going

To be phenomenal if he can’t it’s like all right it was awesome and I think he will be able I would like on the record or say I think he will be able to but whenever you’re watching these D lines on Sunday and he’s outside linebackers

And then you watch the college ones like granted they’ll play against two to three guys a year that are going to end up in the NFL that are outside linebackers in dine and everything like that the NFL is the allstar game of any every generation before you and the slow

Try hard good sound they fade out not around and you know who’s still in there 42 43 44 a lot of his game is extending and shaking and I think he will be this is me saying I think he will be able to do this in the NFL but if he can’t we’re

Going to have to learn a lot about deciphering a defense and can he make every throw inside the pocket like that’s the whole question so I love Caleb and I’m excited to see if he can work in the NFL but that’s that whole thing can he be the same guy in the NFL

Is certainly a worthy question to be asked with especially with how athletic the NFL is now well it’s not necessarily fair but when they talk about his athleticism and like his speed and his elusiveness like a lot of that probably comes down to like what he runs at the

Combine like if he runs uh you know like a high four five or like a 4640 and Drake May is kind of within that same ballpark and then Jaden Daniels goes out and runs like a a low 43 or something like that like then are a lot of people

Going to be like okay well Jaden Daniels is is clearly the superior athlete he want a Heisman like we’ve seen what he can do and and do we see him potentially start to slide down a little bit if it’s not like oh okay well he’s he’s an unbelievable Athlete on tape but then

When we’re watching him at the combine and his you know all you need you just need one billionaire true yeah Bingo that’s all one billionaire to be like yep that’s that’s the face of my program to me it’s like pairing them with the head coach all right and then the the OC

And are they going to do and run aist that is you know conducive conducive to this guy’s skill set Shane styken they went and got Anthony Richardson because of that offense and what he did with Herz and here’s how we’re going to use a guy and we’re going to accentuate his

Strengths and we’re going to hide any weakness that he has so it to me it’s like where they end up and if you you get some guys that don’t know how to develop a guy that’s a lure hard ball he’s won everywhere he’s been right but look at the quarterbacks that he’s had

That he’s developed and have flourished in his program yeah he can Coach Guy can coach and that’s the thing like we are just no without a doubt Justin Fields is not playing quarterback in Chicago like are we all on that same Pi because I don’t think I don’t think I’m there yet

Where it’s hey for sure Fields is gone and they’re going to draft Caleb but I mean it’s probably the most likely situation it just feels like that process hasn’t even really started yet yeah I uh I’m pumped for draft season so pumped because it’s such a joke yeah it

Is such a joke it’s going change it’s going to change a thousand times from now until then as well and for people that don’t know our show are pretty new to our show draft night is one of our biggest nights every single year love it and the reason why is because leading up

To the draft obviously we cover it all combine’s here in our backyard it’s been extended another year here in Indianapolis it’s a perfect City for it I’m happy it’s sticking around but none of it means nope literally none of it means we have no idea Marvin

Harrison Jr is going to be a great NFL wide receiver right yes yeah maybe what if he ends up in a place where a guy can’t throw the damn ball exactly exactly what there’s like there’s so many different factors that go into it all how does this person handle having

Money now and free time and not just having his entire life scheduled like it is in college it’s there’s so many factors in having success and I think the reason why we cover it that way is because we’ve both been in the locker room and obviously Chuck has coached

Locker rooms where boy this draft pick was took my friend’s job on draft night so my friend gets fired for this person to come in cuz they’re younger and better and everything and then for one reason or another just can’t do right just can’t just can’t adjust to the game

Can’t adjust to the lifestyle can’t handle it has off the field stuff potentially happening maybe in practice their work ethic isn’t the same as what every other NFL guys you just you just have no idea and it’s impossible to project what the cut of somebody’s jib

Is in some of these interviews which is why the draft is so awesome because everybody’s so matter of fact about something being great or being terrible when really it’s a craps game AJ it’s literally a craps game yeah and I know lombo loves talking about when they

Grade the draft like the day after oh who won the draft that’s almost the same thing though we do with head coaches if you if you won the press release and you hired a great coach that none of that really matters who cares great if you’re your fan based excited for a couple

Months if you don’t win games it doesn’t mean anything if you won the fans back in February when you hired a coach I appreciate people being excited it’s when they go the other way Sky’s terrible it’s like you have no idea we don’t know either way guys we don’t know

Either way yet JJ walk got boot out of he’s not the only one the Detroit Lions had the worst draft in the history they got four starters out of that that are currently in the NFC championship and then you heard Chuck there he said like quietly as a college coach recruiting I

Mean we get K you have no idea for recruiting class I’m sorry for CH that’s good thing I mean look at the look at the Packers like the the Jordan love draft like I wanted to drive off a bridge going home and then now four years later like I’m you know going to

The Moon because like they got the right guy but it took four years for him to actually get an opportunity ladies and Gentlemen let’s pivot away from the NFL and from football and let’s go to the squar circle yeah oh yeah this weekend is one of the greatest events just of

Anything that ever exists yep the Royal Rumble wow he’s down in Florida on Saturday night only available on the peacock obviously and the man who’s joining us now has been around the wrestling business forever now there’s a lot being talked about today in WWE world but this man is coming to talk

About the greatness of the run that he has not only had with the current reigning defending Undisputed have you way champion of the entire world Universal champion of the entire world but what he’s done for the entire business as a whole founder of ucw current wise man to our tribal Chief

Amen ladies and gentlemen Paul Heyman how we doing we still doing this we still doing this this are we still the ones absolutely we’re still the ones of course we the ones okay all right I just want to when it comes to ESPN sir you’re the one no

No no no people saying a lot of different things about that there Paul people saying a lot uh you know the bigger you get Mr McAfee the more they’re going to come after you let them come after you with everything they got cuz what they got doesn’t compare to

What you got sir oh oh that sounds from experience of a man that’s been at the top for a very long time let’s talk about being at the top Royal Rumble is obviously an event that can catapult and change careers Roman Reign is at the top of the mountain they’re talking about

Building a different Mount Rushmore for this man Rock just said that the other day on first take because of his greatness but when you think about the Royal Rumble on Saturday night what’s at stake for some of these Superstars why should people who maybe don’t follow the

Wrestling world as much maybe tune in on Saturday to electricity for three hours or so because it is the most unpredictable event of the year and I don’t just mean in WWE or in sports or entertainment or Sports entertainment you just don’t know what’s going to happen and and here’s here’s the the

Most exciting part about it we don’t know what’s going to happen because there’s so many variables when you have potentially 30 people in the ring at the same time now the likelihood of all 30 being in there by the time the 30th man or woman comes out is is is is

Small with that many hands and feet running around the ring things can go wrong and as Vince McMahon used to say what can possibly go wrong on live television so it’s it’s not only an unpredictable event it’s it’s an event where more conspiracy theories come out in the media by people who have

Knowledge of the inside tracking saying here it is here’s your spoiler here’s what’s going to happen here’s what’s going to happen at WrestleMania they’re all wrong and because everyone’s trying to understand the Dynamics the plots the storylines the inter the inter exchanges of the interchanges that happen at the

Royal Rumble that then Propel you into the biggest show of the Year WrestleMania it’d be like me telling you what was going to happen over the weekend in in in when when you had the two hottest youngest quarterbacks in the NFL battling against each other and

We’re saying hey I’ll tell you what the score is going to be an hour before the game everybody thinks they know but nobody truly knows and you don’t know until it’s over and that game can change your career forever and your legacy just like the Royal Rumble has the

Opportunity to do that The Road to WrestleMania starts at the Royal Rumble and potentially a road to a legacy remembered forever in wrestling starts at the Royal Rumble this Saturday as well for many 30 Superstar well probably 20 Superstars can change the trajectory of their entire career 10 normally big

Names Hall of Famers Legends come back but there’s a group 20 or so that can change everything for their family and for their future where an unknown can become a legend in one move it’s where someone I mean can you imagine the publicity of someone who throws someone

Who is right now I would say favorite to win a CM Punk so what happens if some unknown someone from NX T oh someone that comes in from out of the blue someone that comes in from another promotion someone that hasn’t been around in years throws CM Punk over the

Top rope or Cody rhods over the top rope well what happens if if if a surprise comes in and you go my God this is the surprise it’s going to win and go on to WrestleMania against Roman Reigns or against Seth Rollins and that surprise gets dumped over the top rope hunther

Gets thrown over the top rope now if it’s by see Punk or Cody rhods I understand that but what if it’s by an unknown what if it’s by someone you’ve never seen before what if it’s by a returning Legend what if it’s from someone from who who comes in from another promotion

I mean and all of a sudden you have Gunther breathing down someone’s neck yeah here we go there are so many variables in the Royal Rumble Match itself let alone in the Royal Rumble event with Roman Reigns defending the title in a fatal four-way match which has been designed how’ you let that

Happen oh how’d you let that happen you’re the wise man how you been around the business a long time Roman doesn’t even have to get pinned he loses his title he’s had it for over 1,200 days doesn’t even doesn’t even have to get pinned he’s taking on Randy Orton La KN and AJ

Styles former champion and of himself and if any of them pin each other Roman Reigns is no longer the champion you let that happen that’s on your watch that’s on you I didn’t think you would ever let that happen and which is why I’m not even wearing a tie today I’m nervous as

Hell I’m spitzing all over the place around here it’s you know here’s what happened we we have a villainous James Bond in Al this Nick Aldis as the smackdown executive in charge of all things related to SmackDown and he is as corrupt an official as I’ve ever seen in any sport

Disgusting any form of sport I’m sorry it’s disgusting I bet I I can’t take corruption up there especially at it’s repugnant horrible so this this this all this Nick Alis guy who should be a James Bond villain wants to play a villainous James Bond and he likes his little

Surreptitious his little devices that he likes to fire back at us and so far he’s a worthy adversary and he’s been coming at us like I don’t know if if if if if D if David Stern had a real bug up his ass against somebody he could make their life their

Life miserable yeah rest in peace what the guy’s been doing to us yeah and he has a real real problem with the tribal Chief Roman Reigns look about Roman Reigns though is and you know this better than anybody yeah you’re only as great as your opponents you’re put

Down and The Challengers that come after you and the last time we were in a situation like this Roman Reigns had to defend the title un WrestleMania against both Daniel Bryan and Edge two Hall of Famers what did Roman Reigns do and stacked them smashed them stacked

Them and I forget what the bottom one was but it was a great shirt it was a great it was one of the greatest shirts of all time yeah wacked them yeah there it is that was it smashed them stacked them racked them that was the end of it

Stacked them that was it the most declaratively def definitive finish in the history of a WrestleMania title match now I’m not suggesting that Roman Reigns is gonna stack AJ Styles La night no yeah and Randy Orton but I’m also not suggesting that he’s not capable at doing it okay so

That might be the game plan you might be giving away the strategy here might be giving away strategy wise man you lost the you let him get into this match now you’re potentially giving away the game plan you know what I mean that’s not good Paul don’t love it AJ has a

Question for you Paul I know you said uh I don’t know if you’re giv breathing air to like the conspiracies of people out there but I wonder have any of those conspiracies ever been somewhat correct where people did guess uh possible surprises or anything and also is there

A chance Bob backin may run out in the rumble we see him he walking in okay backland well Bob’s like 145 years old number one he’s in great shape better shape than 75% of the roster because he’s that freaking crazy yeah when it comes to his training valid

Those those amateur wrestlers they just don’t know when to stop yeah um I would hope that Bob bein’s not in the Royal Rumble uh because God forbid he wins and then poor Seth Rollins would have to defend his title against backin because we’d have to pull some legal maneuver to

Get out of that and not because Roman Reigns is afraid of Bob backin but there’s just no box office in it yeah no no money no money as for conspiracy theories being correct um well Mr McAfee was accused of a conspiracy theory a few weeks ago that I bet is correct Joe

Rogan has been accused of conspiracy theories that I’m sure are correct I mean not about you know the no man on the moon but there’s a lot of things that Rogan has laid out there that probably are correct oh whoa PA which on USA USA USA we got somebody on the moon

Yeah yeah for sure in I’ve been accused in my time of a few conspiracy theories and maybe one or two of the 10,000 I’ve laid out there have been current yeah of course um so you know listen if if you play a guessing game at some point

You’re gonna be right if you give me a hundred guesses as to how many points a football team can score at some point I’m gonna get it right well unless they score 101 points oh which would be crazy would you imagine for an NFL game you

Get 100 guesses to guess how many points they’re going to score all right me one through 100 and then Patrick Mahomes somehow goes out and scores 110 points damn it this guy’s an uh Paul how long spoiler no no no it’s just a prediction um hey uh how many years You’

Been in wrestling business God I broke in at 15 as a photographer in 1980 yeah but you weren’t really a photographer right you used the photography to get into the room right and that you hustled your way into the room but that’s a conspiracy the the

There no no no no yeah that’s a matter of fact if I do recall I I became a performer at at 21 in 1987 okay so 36 years you’ve been doing this depending upon what time of the year it was maybe 37 depending upon the starting date

Roman Reigns like the rock said it on first take the other day and that feels like that’s Co that would be big box office for old Paul Hyman in Roman Reigns but the rock said something about if there’s a Mount Rushmore in wrestling everybody has arguments on who on it he

Said we need to build another Mountain to put Roman Reigns’s face on it so he has the utmost respect obviously for his cousin I do believe Roman is Rock’s cousin um why is that why is Roman the greatest of all time and uh how do you

Feel about the current run where he has been Champion for how many days oh my God we’re approaching 1300 now straight wow 365 days in a year okay in the world not just the days but but but it’s not like on a day that he he he

He loses and then he then he wins it back and so therefore it’s a consecutive day it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s 1300 undefeated micro moments of every single day it it it’s just he’s Untouchable why Roman Reigns is is the greatest of all time and deserves his own Mount Rushmore

Because in the modern era no one can hold the title this long it’s impossible the system is not designed for for that to happen the same way the system is not designed through the major league baseball draft the NBA draft the NHL draft the NFL draft for a real Dynasty to take place

Anymore the the the Chicago bowls of of of of of the 1980s the the New York Yankees of the of the 1920s the the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Miami Dolphins and the Dallas Cowboys of the 70s and the early 80s the game is not designed for that anymore nor is

WWE he doesn’t want a champion for four years straight they just don’t it’s too dominant it it’s too much of of this and to focus on one Talent what happens if that if that Talent says well my contract’s coming up and and I can’t be beat and this is what

I want you have to give it to him because he’s unbeatable because he’s the man he he’s he’s the tribal Chief so got earn nobody nobody is supposed to become that powerful within WWE anymore it’s the system’s just not designed for it when Roman Reigns has bucked against the

System and has maintained that level of dominance at the very top where no one else is even in his Stratosphere let alone in his league in an era where it’s not supposed to happen now back in the day of the Rock in Stone Cold Steve Austin and DX

Was supposed to happen there was supposed to be a star there was supposed to be a Hulk Hogan a Bruno Sam Martino and and later on a Rock Austin Triple H Shawn Michaels taker supposed to happen anymore supposed to be spread out amongst the roster that’s why there’s 30

Men in the Royal Rumble competing with the mere for the mere opportunity of cashing in that Victory to face either Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns in WrestleMania so Roman Reigns to me and to everyone else that has any semblance of intelligence is the greatest of all time

And deserves his own Mount Rush W and even throw the other four of them Mount Rush one put his face on that one too all four of them o yeah so five Roman Reigns’s faces on the side of mountains well four on one and then one

On the other with with with just one a little face with a little less of a double chin oh of his of his of his okay wise man what are those called what were those part of the Rockies we were on uh when we run out the boulder what what

Are they called flat iron yeah but what’s that called uh those types of before the mountain there’s uh no no foill there should be a Paul Heyman Foothill you’re saying on the other side of that Mount Rushmore for Roman Reign well just for the de for demographic purposes of putting a little synagogue

There so then you get all the Hebrews that come you know I love that uh we have yamaka sales alone would be enormous and I don’t know how many yam is he selling the dtas right now I you know would you pick it up and move it would be the next

Question if it did have a synagogue be a part of it to be make it a little bit more uh easy to travel to I mean that’s a whole conversation you’re going to have to have someday whenever it’s all said and done we have a minute until a

Hard out on ESPN but we’ll continue on YouTube and ESPN plus so if I cut you off during your next great answer understand that it’s so I could say goodbye to people Connor has been talking sound bites yeah Bingo well Connor has a question for you that

Actually has a great setup so I’m going to interrupt a great answer from is just what I’m telling you right now yeah wise man obviously The Road to WrestleMania starts Sunday and that road ends in Philadelphia what can we expect out of Philly as far as atmospheres go in

WrestleMania because La is one thing and that’s where it was and that was fantastic unbelievable set but Philadelphia as a whole is completely different city what do you think we’re going to get out of that atmosphere from the philadelphians brother single greatest crowd in the history of WWE an

Interactive audience the likes of which you’ve never seen imagine 100,000 people at the same time going to The Rocky Horror Picture Show and that Mosh Pit will be in Philadelphia April 6 and 7th for Wrestlemania sound bite boom baby we’re off ESPN we’ll see you tomorrow for a Feelgood Friday be a

Friend tell a friend something nice nailed it wow obviously you got history with Philadelphia ECW ECW ECW EC and for the years that you’ve been in we’re good we’re still going you’re you are the one by the way you are the one I think everybody acknowledges that but for the years

You’ve been with the WWE obviously the London crowds get a big pop a lot of the European crowds get massive respect I’ve had the opportunity to be in some places where like hey it feels different but to describe the Philadelphia crowd as the single greatest wrestling crowd is obviously a massive statement by

Somebody who’s been around a long time is that because of the ECW days you got to see it its finest or has it rang true basically throughout it all and why are they such a good crowd you think they’re such a great crowd because they were

They were trained to be by Paul hymon and they will continue on that Legacy because they will have plenty of reason to stand cheer hoop holler Stomp and go crazy in acknowledgment of the greatness of their tribal Chief Roman Reigns all right well it sounds like you

Got it uh figured out we can’t thank you enough for joining us um you know I’ll be watching and one of the things that is difficult to do is to focus on what’s going on in the ring when your Foothill ass is on the side of the on the side there you know

Your facial expressions your despair your emotion your energy your excitement buddy I told you one time I’m like Paul I want to let you know cuz you know that I’m a massive fan of yours and you’ve helped me out immensely in every aspect of my profession not just with this show

Everything you’ve literally helped me out with everything I said buddy it’s hard for me not to just say well Paul Heyman steals the show every time you go additive additive additive I just want to add to the scene you certainly do that and anytime you want to come back

And add to this program we’d be incredibly grateful Paul oh cool I’ll see you tomorrow tomorrow’s Friday you ain’t gonna see me anywhere you gonna see me anywhere that Smackdown though I heard hey I heard there’s a commentary huh I heard there’s a commentary spot opened up

Huh wise man not my recommendation it means a lot you what come to to rumble we’ll talk about it I got a kid now yeah that’s F Championship weekend all Hey listen whatever the case whenever I see you next I’ll give you a hug and I appreciate you ladies and

Gentlemen and the rubble is in Florida where the weather’s very nice oh it’s cold and we had we could you know Z take a trip up after Tampa we we have to St Pete we we go to B we play some marang and shuffle board you know

Get with the Italians do the little highly gambling down there in South Florida we can really do the full experience I want to let you know Paul 0% visibility this morning in Indiana with the 0% visibility with the fog was a movie tribal Chief and I will

Send a jet thank you ladies and gentlemen Paul Hyman thank you wife he’s hilarious best so whenever I was going through my different runs and stuff with the WWE or whatever was happening he would just like slowly walk up next to me and then just drop like

The greatest Sage advice of all time pat on the back and then just kind of walk away and I’m like okay holy yes that makes a lot of sense whenever you say it like that so like there was you know with um with me talking a lot of people just kind of

Say hey do it just do whatever do whatever you want that’s pretty much what it said we don’t know how to tell Pat McFee how to talk like Pat mcfe so just do whatever you want and I’m like okay cool that’s very nice that people say that and have the amount of

Trust and respect but every once in a while would be like can I get a little bit of a can I get a uh can I get like an assistance you know in something or anything like that and a lot of people you know I I think they’re like we don’t

Want to it up like hey we don’t want to and they get like kind of in I think we talked to Nick Khan the other day Nick Conan and I great relationship obviously in the way we communicate with each other but Paul would always just kind of walk over and go have you

Thought and then would say something I’m like genius yes you’re right thank you for that and we keep him moving and I asked him one time like why I did that and uh he paid me like a massive compliment and was like so sincere and like shook my hand and I

Remember like the little kid of me that was watching ECW back in the day and then seeing the way he’s done it all and it’s like massive respect for that man he’s box office is over billions of dollars with him being the manager like the guy is Been There Done whole life

His whole life right he he broke in when he was 15 he’s been there ever since hasn’t he yeah we had the photo of one of the first times he was photographed in a wrestling magazine because back in the day dirt sheets and the magazines were kind of how you covered everything

He’s obviously talking to Andy caufman here whenever he was bringing it all in but he he lied about being a photographer and he he said he was like 19 20 years old too and he was in New York city so he just had a camera he’s

Like oh I’m a I’m covering for something he was not and then he gets in there and then he just kind of warmed up to people and then he found himself in the writer’s room and then he found himself pitching ideas and then by the time he

Was 21 he was like here we go he’s already had eight years of experience or six years of experience at the highest of levels pretty much and that was back when it was territorial so like you’re learning not only how New York does it but how the South does it how Texas does

It How the West that like he’s just so he’s literally lived it you know we talk about Hardball family how the dad was a DE two national champion coach Kentucky and like they have just kind of been in football their whole life that’s what Heyman is so I’m thankful he made the

Time and the Royal Rumble is worth a watch oh it’s going to be awesome no matter how old you are some superstar that you fell in love with whenever you were either a kid or watching is going to show up yep and then everybody I get

It watch it yeah yeah it’s good it’s fun live event it’s a fun fun you got peacock’s on the the yeah peacock y I got The Miz winning wrong you’re wrong let’s FaceTime The Miz see could you I mean could you imagine terribly the ticket price for

That Philly WrestleMania if it was Rock Roman oh baby I mean not as much as this weekend’s games but that’s fine because if you use the number one ticketing app on planet Earth and the moon Okay C boom hey that’s a great call right there right now PMS playoffs code PMS playoffs

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The ticker presenter so they like you know being on top of all the good news that’s right and that’s because they’re a good company they are a ticketing company that survived the world event stoppage for two years the reason why is because they’re a fantastic company we

Were one of their first Partners I think and they were one of they were our first partner been with us since the very beginning here 2017 is and uh they’ve only gotten better MH Tech’s only gotten better the deals of only this one’s interesting 15% off up to 50 bucks but

You’re not going to get any ticket that 15% is going to be less than 50 I saw this week games are absurdly so they should have just said 50 50 bucks off what they should have said they had a preface it before the the real games these high money games started yeah but

I think every playoff game probably this year if I had to guess unless you’re just getting one ticket maybe no you’re you’re not getting into any playoff game for but they had to cover their ass for sure for sure yeah just in case there was some like $20 behind a pole or

Something yeah I can’t see love is shout out to C We Appreciate You C appreciate Paul as well I’ve got to call the Royal Rumble it was so much fun yeah life’s much different now last year is that was wean that was WrestleMania Mania two years no but he did uh uh he

Came out in Johnny Knoxville came out yep yeah he was there Johnny Knoxville came out he was wearing a cape I think yep yeah St Louis right yeah very cold yeah San Antonio the rumble I think the rumble was in St Louis I think yeah it

Was no then last that was another one I thought that was the rumble two years ago where did you where did you guys go to the boozy brunch St Louis Louis was that the Rumble that was two years ago lastone in Alamo Bingo it was cuz yeah

Literally like day before was asked hey do you want to come commentate Royal Rumble like you’re right I remember now absolutely do and then there was plane issues yep where I almost didn’t make it and then I literally landed 14 or 15 minutes before show starts in car plane car right to

Gorilla seemingly 500,000 people just immediately I was like God damn like it was a wild welcome back to the WWE was so I don’t think anybody knew that particular time other than like two people no nobody did Michael Cole I think didn’t even have a clue the people

Down ringside are like we they had to grab a chair they’re like we had hey welcome back we had no idea you were going to be here so I’ve been lucky to be a part of a couple Royal Rumbles it is electrifying obviously I’ve watched since I’m a little kid this is

The one if you’re not a if you’re not like a full-time wrestling fan this is the one that’ll really C see huler win this one it is down there near Tampa is it in St Peters St Pete yeah first and last in the entire time got karaoke at

His bar like every Monday night I hear him talk about brother all right let’s get to a break uh we’ll wrap up this gorgeous big coach Thursday Chuck Bon is a weapon for us today yeah I need this we got a lot to talk about here you know

Tom Brady chatted about how to be Patrick Mahomes on his let’s go podcast with Jim Gray that didn’t sound like your voice that’s kind of how Jim Gray talks on the podcast he calls him Tommy too I like that oh the best their relationship is so tight unbelievable serani stuff sea

Smith The Ref that’s going to be Chiefs Ravens whoa uh shaie the internet yet again strikes with a narrative that might not be real Vinnie vinovich got the Super Bowl right oh yeah yeah he did number three is that his third I think it’s his third that’s

A big deal right they wear that as a b Hon oh God but also that uh the worst TV review guy the first ever guy he had a Super Bowl baldheaded Guy what’s his name Mike carry Mike oh yeah he’s he had a Super Bowl did and

He’s like he’s a CL I don’t think anybody says hey good ref you know so certainly matters more now than it did back in the day but congrats to Bill we love Bill Bill what’s say you would know I guess now we’ll talk to you about

It the refs with the head coaches here through playoffs yeah interesting there’s like three white caps M on the field at all times seems to be smooth they’ve been consistent I think that’s all anybody’s asking for and they’re letting the boyss play yes you see how

Easy these things hold the flow and like there’s no penal I mean they’re letting them play and having that dude there we’ll talk about it like you said but okay let’s talk about good conversation be your friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life take fight

What’s up y’all welcome to another episode of undercover these are the divisional undercover dogs we had an unbelievable week he’s a undercover dog he’s a undercover dog for show my first undercover is Dre green loock L the teams in tackles had eight tackles two interceptions and call the second

Interception out picking the the playoff D get another one my second undercover oh it’s Shamar Conor Ricky safety for the Chiefs led the teams in tackle had a forc fumble against the bill he had the highest PFF grades my third undercover is Jack Fox Pinn the Buccaneers on the

13 the 10 and the E mcdc opening up Monday saying he was the reason why the Lions won the game one of the reasons I thought Jack Fox was outstanding uh flipping the field or coverage units these are my three undercover now it’s time to see my

Championship dogs y’all tune in help me # undercover dogs this week so I can find undercover dogs for Championship weekend he’s a undercover [Applause] dog I feel really good like my body feels fresh my mind clear like I’m going to go do it tonight I think you know

Like I’m going to go do it 77,4 199 people going bananas I thought I wouldn’t be able to sleep last night that I’d wake up with high anxiety that is not the case at all like I am so ready to get out there and do

What I was put on this Earth to do I’ll be walking out of that thing this is a big night cuz uh 11 years ago tonight I had my match with Jerry Lawler come on broadcast colleagues same night 11 years apart could become the first undefeated broadcast team in the history of WWE

Wrestling not could we will only two superstars have actually commentated on the same WrestleMania that they had a match on tat Macky joins that club tonight Pontius is in party boys here ponus is here party boy is in WrestleMania Pontius is cheeks around in WrestleMania now he’s putting that thing

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Door I was acting as if I was walking into a w Arena so tonight whenever I feel that energy just hoping that I don’t have a heart attack immediately I’m hoping that I don’t get too gassed and I’m hoping I put on a damn good show because I’ve been thinking about this

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Dreamt of being in a building when that glass breaks and all of a sudden the toughest son of a on Earth comes out the fact that I never got to see it as a kid then I get to watch his last match live it was just it was awesome [Applause] atin’s here Austin’s

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Back to our humble abod the Thunder D on this big coach Thursday January 25th 2024 hour three of the program starts now football is beautiful football is wonderful football has its Championship weekend just two days from now now both games will be on Sunday but Championship weekend is a big one this weekend

Because the Royal Rumble is on Saturday night got a chance to chat with Paul Heyman WWE is in the news right now people we know are in the news right now and boy I think we are all uh I don’t even know the proper adjective to describe taking a back just

A break right there I was reading some things and holy that is obviously incredibly serious wild insane and uh I didn’t know I knew that there was a story that came out before we introduced Paul Heyman onto the program but I just got the re holy hell what’s going on

Over there now obviously right now in the WWE there’s a transition in the new but that is something where I mean that’s the it’s sad it’s there’s it’s terrible it’s so many things anyways the world is a wild one obviously let’s be good to each other that’s AJ Hawk the toxic

Table is here at Boston Conor and at Tai Schmidt one half of the hammer Cowboys turn Diggs is here and a man who is our coach The People’s coach 36 years in the football world as a coach 18 in college 18 the NFL Chuck foron now Chuck we got a chance to talk

About a few things uh today already with you Jim Harbaugh going to the Chargers fangi over down there in Miami what’s going on in Carolina have you had an opportunity because I know you do follow along on the dayto day to see all the Brock py stuff Chuck have you seen all

The Brock py stuff that’s been taking place a little bit of it guy in his second year two NFC championships obviously last pick of the draft the guy getting into the building was just a dream making the team was obviously a hope sticking around week to week was

Just just something that he was working his ass off for now he’s led the team to two straight NFC championships and some people just you know can’t see how this is a good quarterback this is a basic ass Bland dude that is lucky to be in a system now other quarterbacks have been

In the same system and have not performed anywhere near as great as he has there was a guy picked number three overall had no capability at all of doing what he is able to do and in the second year he’s had massive massive success a man who used to work at ESPN

Who we have massive ECT for M also close ties to the ners and a quarterback position spoke on the matter and this is what Steve Young had to say about Brock party Tatam Sher now boom and we’re gonna run it Steve Young yep I’ve said many times

Brock has the force and if you love the star Star Wars you know what I’m talking about and you like Luke Skywalker like it’s something he has he can’t explain and what it is in in football terms is the ability to get a football play have studied and memorized every aspect of it

All the all of the Tendencies of the defense you’re now going to play and then can run that play and literally get the most out of it and figure out and decipher through the play who’s going to be the one that should get the ball you know like Indiana Jones go through the

Mystery of the four sections of two and a half seconds that you have to decide and then find that person that’s actually going to should have the ball and then deliver it to him and then do it over and over and over again to where you know you’re unstoppable obviously

Coming from an office it’s pretty busy got a lot of things done I think he’s a money guy as well as an a football legend and everything else he’s got popping off but what he just described there about Brock P he hasn’t really been chatted about enough like what he’s

Doing at the rate in which he’s doing it how quickly he’s doing it and how young he is doing it all is a phenomenon almost what are your thoughts on Brock py and how Shanahan has kind of developed him no it’s a it’s a great

Depiction of him cuz we we talk about a lot of guys that have a ton of talent ton of skill set a lot of quarterbacks that have that were taken way higher than this than this guy was taken Mr Irrelevant that can’t do the things that

That he does his ability just to process you you know the length of those plays that Steve’s talking about we got to put them on wristband I you see you see those play sheets right you can’t call all those plays in five games we have that s video remember from training camp

Where Gruden’s giving them SP two why banana they have to memorize that every one of those calls and then regurgitate Kyle’s telling him in his ear that play call it’s in whatever that verbiage is whether it’s digits words this that or the other all the motions and shift you

Know how complicated that offense is right with the with the pre-nap shifts and motions handling all that knowing why it’s being called because he’s big brain okay it’s called in this situation because we’re expecting this coverage then he snaps the ball okay it is that coverage if it’s not I diagnose okay it

Was supposed to be three but they went split safety Middle’s open now I and then the anticipatory to uh throws the accuracy of this kid and then the calmness and Poise in the pocket second year second year two NFC championships who’s done that well Patrick Mahomes

Gone to six straight yep okay his Tom Brady’s gone went to nine straight Mahomes had a year too yeah behind Alex Smith I think Ben went to his first his first two seasons went to the AFC Championship but not I mean we’re talking about we’re talking about Hall

Of Famers here that’s all we’re talking about is Mount Rushmore type players and I think that obviously this week because it is championship week there’s only four teams left and obviously I did a big I’m done with the Brock py slander thing but it’s real like I I obviously

Believe that Brock party has a lot of support behind him but for one reason or another there’s just a crew that decides ah he hasn’t done enough for me yet which I respect and appreciate if you’re that hard of a judge of talent but to fully comprehend what he’s doing at this

Level I think he can’t help but say damn this dude might go down in the history books AJ yeah I think I I before you even started playing the Steve Young video I thought of that thinking that he kind of accurately describes what that is and the whole Star Wars situation I

Get lost a little bit in all of that I don’t I don’t know the ins and outs of Star Wars May the fourth be with you boom there we go yes the two or three seconds the thing that he said the two to three seconds he he deciphers where

Does this ball go what’s the defense doing here we go and then the ability to deliver it that’s what I think is is so crazy that we see guys with crazy arm Talent crazy athletic ability but if you do that if you can’t go through your

Progressions in a quick Manner and do it consistently you don’t have a chance in the NFL that’s like whenever Dan orlovski who we have a big fan or we are big fans of and obviously he is a man who knows football does a lot of research he has to take hacks at

Everything that is his job they call for it they ask him to do that but he said you put M Jones in that offense he’ll be able to do same who says who says that’s accurate nobody but whenever those things are said not me when those things

Are said people just start think yeah he is a system yeah anybody that could throw a football could do that it’s like oh so anybody can throw a football could be an NFL quarterback anybody that can catch a football and run fast can be an NFL wide receiver no there’s levels to

This and this guy has only won and played great it’s time that we say what we’re witnessing is historic almost out of this obviously last pick of the draft but as a young guy doing this entire thing it’s almost like thinking about it now that people’s opinions on Jimmy G is

Kind of creeping in like I think everyone is unanimous and the fact that they don’t think Jimmy G is that good of a quarterback and that he stinks and since they went to a Super Bowl with that same team people are kind of pissed that Brock pie is doing the Jimmy G

Thing but people want to bury Brock pie instead of kind of lift him up and maybe that’s just us talking about it and thinking about it over and over again but honestly maybe that is a reason because everyone’s out on Jimmy G like there’s no chance he’s a starter in the

NFL next year and you know who knows what what that situation holds but maybe that is why in part of it because of Jimmy G and now it’s Brock P Jimmy G LED this offense Matt Ryan LED this offense Brock P’s leading it better than both of

Them and Matt Ryan won an MVP one of the years in which he led this offense Brock part’s doing better than Matt Ryan did that Year Matt Ryan phenomenal quarterback for a lot of years down there in Atlanta obviously we all agree with that now with the

Colts I don’t know what the hell had that was a disaster that was just they made him play with ankle weights it wasn’t fair but for some reason he was old his line stunk yeah but same line started being really good as soon as he left yeah so you can probably you know

But also there was little cultural issues going on exactly there gambling against the head guy you know he didn’t do too well after Indianapolis no he didn’t yeah his but Matt Ryan had great years stud okay under the Shanahan offense Shanahan offense has had success

All over the place you can kind of look around the NFL and see who’s having success with the Shanahan style offense but what Brock P’s doing does not mean that because the style is a good one that that the Minish is what he’s been able to accomplish I love him I love

Everything about him and I like the fact that people are killing him I think that’s only going to help a guy like Brock pie especially as an Iowa State Cyclone which is obviously the premier team in Iowa especially whenever him and Bree Hall there amen absolutely not CU

He actually never beat Iowa so you know that kind of debunks that right away but that’s neither here nor there um because he’s playing great and I actually do love Brock pry but it’s interesting because the thing with Jimmy G when he was there it was always like hey when

This guy’s healthy all he does is win you know they never really said anything about I mean granted they were really a little bit of like the he excels in Shanahan system but no one’s saying that about Brock pie like hey despite all this like all he does is Win he he has

Looked way better under Shanahan than Jimmy G ever did numbers wise and all that kind of stuff and it is I mean it’s just we we’ve said it a thousand times but it’s because he’s he’s not super boisterous in the media he’s kind of you

Know he comes in wearing just uh like an Old Navy T-shirt and jeans like he kind of just I mean I mean he went to Iowa State you know he’s from Arizona but he went to Iowa State like he’s not flashy and and and people for whatever reason

If you have a bad game they’re going to jump all over that and be like hey this guy sucks the numbers are are way better with Brock than Jimmy G and the thing with Jimmy G was always just wait he’s going to make a mistake it’s coming

Brock on the other hand if he’s not playing well he has shown already that he is going to play really well in the fourth quarter on a or on a final drive that matters he has done that many many times even the loss like to the Browns

Where he wasn’t playing great he still marched him down on that on that last drive when he wasn’t playing great last week against the Packers he marched him down the last Drive he’s there when he needs to be there yeah big time player makes big time plays in Big Time games

And moments and if without Debo you know the stats are a little bit different Debo though was seen walking on sideline full field jogging a little bit had a ball in his okay did they say they did not see any noticeable injury like he looked good right so it’s his shoulder

So I don’t know about how much they could really see unless he was doing jumping jacks in both hands were equally going through the he wasn’t going through the blast you know trying to get get the ball out holding on the ball ball security

Working on it he’s a big piece of it and George KD told us you know like hey this last game plan uh that we just had I thought Debo was going to score three touchdowns that’s why he going into the game it’s like okay Debo is GNA eat in

This particular game Debo gets hurt early they have to adjust completely might have been the reason why they weren’t playing their best football Brock obviously had to battle with the rain a little bit had the glove didn’t have the glove but once again he’s only

In a second year he has he has so many things left that he has not even been through or tried or that defensive lineup against whatever play we’re having he still has all those things to pull from and to call from seconde quarterback with everything that was on

The line in that football game to everybody’s point about he didn’t need to be great until he needed to be great in that fourth quarter and that drive overcome everything that happened bad up until that drive I mean for as young as he is the again the Poise and the

Composure that he has and the faith that think about Kyle I mean they knew they had something right otherwise we’d never see this kid first of all and then let’s give Kyle and and and that offense and the staff and and what he’s done with him and obviously they’re unbelievable

Teachers they have a way of getting to these guys and getting them to see these things and you have to have you have to be able to process and comprehend and all that stuff but then Bobby slowick is a is is one of his guys right oh CJ and

Then he goes down he’s never called plays right so he called plays his first year for Houston and he’s got a rookie quarterback right and all of a sudden this guy’s the best to ever do it as a rookie in the National Football League with with slowick in his ear running the

Thing and he’s never done it so something good going on there right yeah I’d say but we got a nitpick on something now let’s go to the other team in that particular game that quarterback’s been same deal drugg through the mud numerous times I’m excited to actually hear gof and P’s

Pregame conversation because it seemingly miked up everybody nowadays which is great for us as fans NFL films has a mic everywhere perie and goof can probably have some good convos about have you heard did you see what dud now granted they got their blinders on Jared

Gof at a press conference the other day uh both gets complimented and on in the same moment the way he handles it is beautiful this Detroit Jared Goff has been story book and been awesome to watch unfold got a lot of got a lot of really good players obviously but maybe oh

Thank you that I said Thank you you’re welcome maybe not viewed though as the superstars like the 49ers have other all right never mind okay back the awesome guys like S brown and getting you yep S brown was first team All Pro so right right so Superstar sorry

Continue I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry you got good questions abely but do you feel like there’s this is a chance for yeah I know I know what you’re I know what you’re getting at yes uh I I do I think I think we’ve got got

A lot of ton of ton of great players who um maybe haven’t had the the national stage that up to this point um that a lot of lot of other guys have and obviously they have a ton of good players as well and and a ton of pro

Bowlers and All Pro players over there and um it’s yeah we we feel like you know we’ve got a lot of good players too though like you mentioned and um excited to play on another National stage and and be able to Showcase that I didn’t do

No you got it that’s just like a part of the whole thing though like both these guys have been counted out and obviously talked throughout the entire which makes the story even better I guess AJ in it all yeah don’t you think it it makes their success feel that much

Better when you kind of you have been through the Journey these guys have and Jared G and everything that ended how it ended out west that he comes to Detroit and people still think oh he’s a bridge guy for a year or two we’re going to draft somebody we’re going to replace

Him and then the dude is absolutely lights out I love his demeanor like he is absolute steady Edy all day long he never seems to get too high too low even in the locker room after the game like you could tell the dudes respect and they know he he breeds confidence in

Their whole team because they feel like hey with this dude at the helm like we have a great chance of winning every game we play foxy wants a lifetime contract and a statue for Jared go y exactly and it’s perfect for Detroit Underdog Story just like mcdc no one

Expected Jared go to be good no one expected mcdc to be good and they’re in Detroit Detroit’s been bad forever and now we got our guys and they’re incredible and it’s awesome and I love his Moxy there what do you think about Jared gof as a player in what mcdc has

Been able to cultivate seemingly in Detroit quickly I me he’s on fire right now his touchdown to interception I mean he’s taking care of the ball these couple playoff game he’s unbelievable he’s and I yeah I mean it just it’s a great story it is it is a great story

Being a cast off like he was a is there Shi huh is there a you got that Cactus petza on your chest but a look on your face it’s a great story yeah it was what you saying Chuck what are you saying Chuck what are you saying you want to

Know who I like in the game not yet but you you already told us yeah you already told us uh they’re going to have their hands full the thing I like about gol and the boys the thing I like about golf is he doesn’t throw like the prettiest

Ball every time either no still lets it Fly he’ll throw like a 25 yard laser duck and it’s just like right on the bunny boom and then it’s just like yep and we’re going to the next play doesn’t sweat it I saw him he did something for

Red Bull where they dressed him up and he went and did a junior college practice and he was throwing it like 70 yard he was throwing 70 yard ducks these guys who the hell is this kid he new oned team and everything it’s just it’s moxy’s always been there the talent’s

Always been there he showcased it early with McVey I think he ended up kind of the way that whole thing unfolded now he’s getting to be his true self with a coach that is openly willing to fight people for him and I think he is

Empowered by all of it yeah I think this is a great like show of what you do when you Empower a guy what you kind of give him confidence through whatever they’ve been doing throughout the week over the last couple years if you remember Dan Campbell kind of questioned Jared golf

Publicly a year or two ago didn’t he before he said like what I don’t know exact wording of it but he kind of did challenge Jared G through the media and obviously I’m sure they had talked many times privately before Dan Campbell ever said that like that to the media so it

Seems like they trust each other and they they’re probably realizing hey we’re in the middle of a magical run right now we need to enjoy it but also at the same time keep our foot on the gas yeah MC DC talking to go hey man look around dude this is

Detroit this is Detroit this is pretty they’re going to have a statue for us man just something I don’t want to look ahead obviously I I don’t want to do any of that but that is they’re going to be tied together forever up in that City

Yeah 100% And just think about the Rams game I mean that’s a prime time Sunday night game against your old team the entire stadium is screaming Jared golf Jer the locker room yes and the locker room and that’s just in warm like just in warm-ups he had to be so so nervous

For that and then he bowled out won the game it was it’s incredible we’re happy for golf yes we’re happy for the Lions sounds like Chuck’s like it’s cute we hear your take story on the game here in a little bit obviously Chuck sometimes all you need is somebody to believe in

You right and give you that confidence Empower it you just flourish under that well isn’t that what especially as a quarterback come on now especially at the quarterback position confidence has to be he got bed so I mean yeah he got benched in a playoff game in La people

Aren’t talking about that as much like oh he got hurt it’s like was dressed ended up in the game was able to take a snap and throw the ball the wolf got hurt so what we’re saying yeah the wolf got hurt in an ambulance yeah with a

Neck brace on he got bened we’ve seen some guys not recover from that that have come through this city well here yeah like who who who are you talking about like who Chuck is that the guy that retired at 2 Cactus Chuck I don’t know who cactus pets no I mean you’ve

Seen guys that just can’t ever come back from it the confidence the confidence thing it’s quarterback position is oh can you imagine Paramount I mean that it’s like a corner right Corners are really really fragile and if they start giving up plays debu you’re going to you

Better put the fire out and if you don’t put the fire out they’re going to keep coming keep coming and once you lose that confidence and that Stinger at that spot it’s almost over move on is that what happened Co I’ve coached him for my it’s a lost

Cause get out of no it’s almost damn near impossible to get it back yeah that’s coach’s job though you’re saying move on that’s your job mean you see a guy walking around I mean looks like a sheep that’s like the just you talked about empowering guys and sometimes

That’s all you need is one person to believe in you it’s real like that’s what they talk about coaching reaching people like how do you reach somebody how do you Empower somebody how do you bring out the best in somebody it’s like this with Jared gof it seems like what

He needed was yes a guy dou dou couple black eyes man I’ll give them to you don’t worry and then just tell them hey you’re my guy like you are our guy we were lucky to pick up your $30 million a year contract compared to what other quarterbacks are getting paid at this

Point we were lucky to be the ones that were on the receiving end of the Matthew Stafford trade that they didn’t Cabo in a hot tub celebrating life we’re lucky that our quarterback just w w a Super Bowl because what you’re about to do is even better it’s like those types of

Messages of affirmation and people you know it sounds like oh you need to be told that it’s like yeah sometimes it is nice sometimes it is nice to hear that yeah when people attack you and they come at you like yeah it’s nice now and it’s nice to somebody in your corner

Yeah and coaches like in anything in life that you do doesn’t matter whatever business you’re in yeah sometimes it’s nice somebody sometimes it’s you like boom boom boom you’re taking shots and shots and shots then it’s nice to have somebody like going to be okay no you

Got you got this you hey look suck it up buttercup you got this yeah dig deep huge you’re going to don’t worry about that and genuine not fake and that was a a group of Misfits right that landed they all landed there together and now look at them yeah now they’re in

The NFC Championship Detroit and it was ugly early that first year Jared was not good and they had all these picks they could have taken a quarterback at any time year one year two I mean and now that they had this patience I’m just so glad they actually

Did that Johnson could become the Commander’s head coach yeah yeah could but also he might not get a head coaching job this cycle yeah and then they’re back again with Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn how about it Fox yeah I never would have expected that at all like one

Of them’s going to be back for sure at this point with only what three head coaching openings left so that’s awesome I’m pumped for it the players all love them so let’s just keep it rolling the head coaching thing is fascinating Vel still on a a job there’s a chance that

Belich and raes both are not head coaches in the NFL next year huge chance bich VES Pete Carroll there’s a lot of guys getting a lot of Praise but like Brad Holmes and mcdc that roster now we’ve all evaluated it right and broke it down I know Fox like when

You really break it down and look at it like that group of receivers and that tight end and those two Runners and that quarterback right now and that offensive line well Q said best offensive line left is in Detroit ragnell Decker Pine Su is ragnell gonna are they just taping

Him up are they doing what they did to uh you’d have to K him remember for the Florida Panthers last year for was it the semis Golds it was in the Stanley Cup finals they were just basically taping this guy into his they were just putting

Pads on him while he’s laying down and then they were just standing him up and then pushing him on the ice yeah like a broken sternum spine fibula yeah Shin wrist wrist the whole thing and it was just like kachuck on missing this game pretty much that’s what I’m

Thinking with Debo too like if what’ they say like nothing’s broken or anything like that let’s get shot up and let’s get out there there is a video of Debo running in the background of a video of George KD warming up at practice look at it it’s like Bigfoot in the

Background George KD’s round and Applause let’s go Debo looks clean there hey casual should looks great shoulder looks great which one is it is it left or right do we know don’t tell him don’t tell the other team I think it his back was I think the whole world knows if

They watch the film but ever see when guys didn’t you ever guys that they roll their ankle and they’re like hey spat both my shoes so they don’t know which one I rolled I think they can figure left if he’s carrying the ball on left he’s trying to figure out right now okay

Can I run and and and have ball security because they what was it guys yeah what was it I thought it was his right and I thought that’s why the ball’s on the left his arm so what was the injury that’s what I’m saying if it’s an a like

They said it as it wasn’t cuz he missed time early in the season with a broken shoulder correct and I thought I heard there was a report that it’s not broken so if it’s an AC I mean you can you know you can shoot just be playoff you think

Uh put a deal on there I mean whatever you have to do just any restriction like patch radius it’ll limit you yeah you put a BRAC and it’ll limit you and if it’s super painful it’ll limit him a little bit but you know it’s Debo the

Dude he knows he knows the stage well and Debo’s presence on the field is just you know like oh 19’s here yeah yeah but he doesn’t are we going to bank on that and also pry I think just mentally to the everybody like everybody says okay remember no Trent no Debo three straight

Losses they come back okay they run the table now there’s no Debo oh guys we’re in trouble that me that’s that’s real I mean I think that was why the Packers were so because they couldn’t do any of the like hey line mcaffrey up out where Debo usually would be or and then

Line Debo up in the backfield like they couldn’t do any of that stuff anymore mcaffry was basically in the back field the whole game they had one play in the second half where they put Jan Jennings in uh like you know side card next to a

Perian shotgun and tried to do like a little Debo play and and he got tackled for like a two- yard loss like they just it it just wasn’t anywhere near as Dynamic and I think it it I mean it was very EV right when he went out it was

Like okay Packers can go now like they can they can do something Sher reported that the Debo Samuel is limited today at practice due to his shoulder injury Diggs just looked at the I’m watching him work on it right now it’s hiss left okay so he was moving I

Saw the ball moving right carrying it he looked natural George KD’s clapping for him Georgia saying yeah yeah still got three days too that’ll do that’ll it’ll get better before yeah okay so Debo’s in that’s awesome it’s the championship game yep we assumed dbo is going to be

There first one out of the locker room alongside Trent that’s big news for all parties including NFL fans Brian Callahan has come out and said that he’ll call plays for the Tennessee Titans as the head coach uh also o out of Tennessee ran is going to be the vice

President GM of football operations so Amy is basically turning over football controls to Rand carthon Brian Callahan will report to him I’m excited to see what they do because remember they fire Rael everybody confused everybody on Earth is confused they obviously had a vision going forward a lot of people

Talk about Brian Callahan getting hired out of nowhere then immediate followup is well his dad who’s the best offensive line coach in the National Football League alongside fer I guess out there in uh San Francisco allegedly who has to be a great from what we know has to be a

Phenomenal coach and he has proven that he has uh he’s going down to Tennessee alongside Callahan is going to be able to put together a staff who’s been in the league a long long time in the family I’m excited to see what the Tennessee Titans are they have not won a

Headline really at all over the last couple weeks but once again none of that matters if it all works out was there a u prior working relationship between ran and and Kellan I don’t if they did Rand come from the Rams no he 49ers and and my other question would be

Like I know they empowered uh ran and gave him more titles whatever what before that before he got there he was GM only would did they have a president did they have somebody else graes had more say yeah okay brought Brinker with it mentioned in the thing they brought

Chad Brinker with him Brinker he’s an Ohio guy played running back had big old giant arms playing at Ohio University ran all over the but he was in Green Bay as like Scout front office guy for a while okay so Ran’s in charge Amy Strunk is pumped yeah everybody thought Aaron

Glenn defense coordinator for Detroit Lions was going to be the Tennessee Titans head coach Callahan goes over there wins the interview wins the head coaching job and now you know we got Deo in his second year in Houston yep we’re going to have Brian Callahan in his

First year in Tennessee Shane stikins in his second year in Indianapolis and Doug Peterson will be in his third year in Jacksonville in the AFC South who has more playoff wins this year than the NFC East that is true okay so when keep your little everyone want talking about the

AFC South you know being a show or whatever is there um watch your mouth the NFC South is there a defensive head coach hired yet are they all offenses no mayo Pierce Mayo Pierce okay so those two right they stayed they didn’t have to like they were so they were a part of

The yeah you guys getting phased out is that what you just said no I think everybody just sees again going all the way back to McVey and then everybody was looking for the next McVey and it’s all about the quarterback and who can get the quarterback to play it’s about Callahan

Going down there and make sure Bryce young is thought he was going to be that’s why I’m pumped is because everyone’s doing the Patriots are just not doing what everyone else is doing and like if you look at the Mayo in situation with New England and the

Texans situation like now Mayo gets to pick his guy and if he sucks he sucks and if he doesn’t then hopefully we end up like the Texans but that’s but to me that’s if you’re a leader of men and you know how to delegate and you

Know how to vet and you know how to hire if you’re a defensive guy an offensive guy it doesn’t matter go find really really good play callers on either side of the ball and let them do their job yeah I me coach them and groom and do

Whatever you have to do but it’s not just cuz you’re yeah finding good coordinators is not easy so that’s why the offensive head coach thing at least you know that an offensive mind and an offensive strategy is going to be in your building even if they’re not calling players like Doug Peterson gave

Up his play calling uh duties this past year but still Doug Peterson’s offense is probably going to be what they run no matter who comes in if mcdc is able to keep Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn after come on could you ever imagine an mcdc hired

Anthony Lynn year one and he knew right away like like that that wasn’t going to work out and then I think mcdc called plays and eventually let Ben Johnson do it thank you for the heads up there on Anthony Lynn I called him Dan Lynn

Earlier I a br Staley Dan Lynn I missed it yeah people call him Dan sometimes as it came out of my mouth I was like that is not his name but I was in the middle of I was really I really felt good about Dan ly sounds like a football coach

Though Anthony is what we called him exactly cuz he was always dancing in games got that dog his son’s name is Dan tone though see see I was thinking about him as well for the whole process because whenever you’re you move a lot right so I thought about Dan tonz I was

Talking about Anthony ly I think he was at UCLA and UCL USC just went and plucked him D he was at the Ravens then Chip Kelly hired him run the defense at UCLA they went from like here to like top 10 L’s kid you’re talking about this

Year yes oh yeah andc just paid him I guess big bucks got him out of UCLA to be UFC is it Danton or Danton oh that looks like a Danton Danton do you know him yeah you know him personally yeah so you would walk up to him you say what’s up

Danton yeah okay so it’s not Danton hell CH you can’t just shrug it off trying to figure out what his name is godamn why you got to hold a gun to my freaking head I’m just trying to get his accurate name’s Anthony yeah us went

so just what I was that’s why I P Anthony L yeah everyone does that D that’s a great name by the way great name and he’s the I mean I don’t know why he’s not going by De what is it exactly Danton Danton uh your phone isn’t gonna

Know you’re gonna need to call a human Siri will be like Siri Siri’s not gonna have the answer all right any who’s hard ball bringing as OC Jesse Menor what’s out no he’d be the DC he’s DC he would be D said Jesse will go I

Would imagine Jesse a lot of people were saying Greg Rome but that didn’t end well with John so I don’t know if Jim’s bringing him in well that’s just like people were piecing Jim Harbaugh of Chicago because he had history with the big 10 guy who’s now there it’s like it

Wasn’t good history like they certainly know each other yeah they’ve had some we did draft we did draft them though we had some class shout out to the Bears so that might take precedent over the current president I don’t know if that’s real or not but it feels like with Jim

Because how long he’s been around there’s an easy tie to a lot of people yeah like oh he’s going to do this cuz he had this like he was he was a Raider he was a charger he was a Colt he there’s highlights of him basically with

Every team that’s been open in the head coaching role he’s got ties to this he’s got ties to this it’s like Jim’s a lifer he’s going to have ties to everybody and now that the Chargers have them good on them dude yeah good on what just to wrap up this day of news

Congrats to the Chargers land and Jim Harbaugh and us all seemingly on this date saying brilliant absolutely brilliant it’s going to be fun next year when people are talking about like the Chargers being good we can actually believe it so like when people pick the Chargers to win the Super Bowl these

Last couple years it’s like yeah no they won’t but now with harau like it’s like oh okay that actually is kind of a fun trendy pick we also need to if they aren’t good in year one let’s not try to fire the guy after year one I

Think Hardball won’t get that yeah it’ll be different with him I hope not you know what who knows the coaches they got to show signs of hope they got to show some hope though you can’t just be batt on you got to show like okay this could

We can see where this would be good what if he’s what if he’s doing a lot of press post game pressers where they’re asking questions about team being B he’s like I respect that don’t matter I respect that yeah we’d like to score more points than the other team but I respect the

Question anybody else who’s AP G to get for OC intered uh they interviewed Steelers uh inos Mike Sullivan I know that for sure I don’t know who they’re going to hire but I know they who tell just interview with Browns Browns and Eagles he’s going to also interview with cliff

Kingsberry hot name right now currently AQ put him over huge yeah huge AQ is like they guy’s in the building at 3:30 a.m. every single day fire job for Vegas cliff and Vegas I don’t know if Vegas can handle it now I know Vegas is able to handle

All incoming humans and they have for years and years what Cliff kingsberry is bringing is a whole different animal yeah you see how cool he looks oh dude he’s got to be absolutely strapped too with the way those yeah you know he knows he knows and can you see him now

With off and just doing nothing but lifting weights and running advising at USC he was coaching Chuck no he’s advising he’s collecting check selin the Analyst job is the greatest it’s pretty sweet like he’s getting paid you know 50 Grand of you know from USC and 500,000

Every two weeks from Arizona yeah pretty fun little gig yeah and you just yeah you have an office he is an office right yeah you got an office but you can’t coach you can’t go on the field has to happen in me meeting room right not even

In meeting room you know you you’ll sit with the staff you’ll whatever projects you’re doing for the head coach or whatever Clyde chrison was doing this friend of ours uh with the North Carolina Tar Heels he’s been everywhere in the NFL he’s coached everybody in the NFL big- time quarterback Guru seemingly

We’ll write a book someday and everybody will want to read it because the the guy’s a gem and absolute Beauty he goes to UNC here this past year because that’s where he played college 100 years ago is right right right not allowed on the practice field though that’s interesting so like that

Was whenever I talked to him cuz remember we called the UNC USC game for Game Day start year saw him at the hotel he didn’t even travel with I don’t even think he was allowed to travel with the team like not even traveling with the team not allowed to coach on the field

But allowed to be a part of I think like some meetings it’s like the rules are interesting I know guys that I’ve talked to guys down the field that were coaches other places and they they can go to the games and be on the Sidelines but they

Can’t wear a headset like that’s part of the rules there’s there’s only so many yeah I don’t know how it all works you’re right I don’t and then Conor stallions was down there with a hat and sunglasses everybody exactly good point so I guess anything’s possible you know

I guess anything Conor stallion just followed uh followed my account on inag nice oh this is going to be a trap what do you mean what him following he might be did you hear how quickly Chu yeah it’s going to be a trap oh you’re talking about inside yeah yeah uh for

Michigan that’s a the Chargers oh it’s not a bad idea or at least Advance scouting that sh Mo’s getting a head coaching job so mad I wrote a 500 page Manifesto not here about me being the next head coach look what I did look what I did I hope

Nothing comes back on the school like if shiron does get it they come in and whack them the NCAA gets in there and says oh we’re going to take I saw I saw Dan Dage had that take oh another guy pretty much running from the college rules to go to the NFL school

End up having to pay for it the guy goes and has success to the NFL it’s happen I see that it’s happening no I mean he’s not the only person say there’s a lot of people there saying that because similar things have happened in the past in football similar things have happened in

The past in the in basketball it’s like I don’t know how you properly regulate it if you’re the NCAA here because they haven’t made a ruling yet it’s only been the school in the Big 10 conference but the NCAA could say could say all right they punished they went through it the

Person involved in it no longer here let’s just move on yeah but that ain’t the NCAA that ain’t the ncaa’s M Mo no no motus operand die for the NCAA you remember we are the final say that’s right and especially with the national champions the NCAA will take their

Chance to oh let’s see a do it again with 50 less scholarships but maybe it’s a new day in the NCAA maybe it’s a new regime New Generation maybe they don’t feel the need to Peacock who they are and what they are in this modern college and they don’t decide to punish

Everybody that is not really worthy of being punished going forward but that is not the ncaa’s history at all no no no Baker’s a mass guy too he’s gonna he’s going to bring the hammer down for sure on Michigan a mass guy yeah he’s a Massachusetts guy president of the NCAA

What’s that have to do with Michigan you guys don’t like Michigan I don’t think Charlie Baker does know but I do know one thing for sure that mass guys like to bring the hammer down and he’s going to do that you do that every day H you

Get that hammer I never I haven’t done it in a long time but at some point at some point I’m going to be real pumped to bring the hammer down you know what maybe I’ve been saving it for the Super Bowl oh the hammer yeah we see on who on

Who well it depends there’s a plethora of people that the hammer could be use for every day new people are getting added yep every day new people are getting added new people of sports media yester year mhm getting added every single m not by us by hey we’re big fans of you

Guys okay you guys did a great job thank you so much now what you did with sports media led to us getting the deal that we got so you can either take that as a shot at you or potentially the future nonetheless and uh we’re lucky to be

Here thankful to be here and we cannot wait to get to the Super Bowl speaking of what two teams are going to be in this Super Bowl let’s go to the man who is one of the hottest gamblers on planet Earth this season with a final record on Thursday night football against the

Spread of 115-1 I believe is that good 114 excuse me is that good I think so Chuck you’ve had a chance to analyze all four teams both games are going to be fantastic I think we all agree with that great matchups the NFL got it right these are

The four teams that should be here how do you see them going which one do you want to start with let’s start in the NFC okay we’re in Santa Clara Detroit Lions versus San Francisco 49ers number one seed San Francisco at home favored by seven against Jared Goff and

Mcdc yeah so I love everything about this Lions team I think this what is this what is here we go seven the line is seven seven I heard seven and a half somebody said seven going seven and a half right they they come in playing uh

Really good ball I think Aaron uh Glenn has done a AQ did some of his stuff from a defensive standpoint like if they can defensively take care of CMC right let’s say Debo is a question mark or he’s not 100% and he’s not going to be Full Tilt you know

Cuz he’s you know we know what kind of weapon he is but they’re going to do everything Aaron’s not going to let you run the ball they finished the league we put some numbers together this morning they were two or three in the league is stopping the Run they haven’t allowed

People to run the ball through the playoffs to this point haven’t had a 70 yard rusher All Season to your point Thank you so having allowed to yeah that that yesterday so I just think thata did that 12 Green Bay ran the ballett good more than effectively on on this 49er

Team okay Aaron Jones popped off a 50 some yard in the fourth quarter yeah and that play did did we show that play did did AQ put that play on tape no AQ there’s a couple plays you run that tape back it was agreed just not the

Technique and the effort was like okay Lord have mercy so anyway with with damn Montgomery and jir Gibbs and that offensive line they’re going to be able to run the ball they’re going to be able to control the clock the play action pass is going to be wide open the

There’s one corner all right that for San Francisco Ambry Thomas number 20 yeah okay you’re going to stay away from from number seven we talked about it a week ago about number 20 right and saw what Green Bay did and what their plan they recognize the same thing so they’re

Going to go after him they’re going to have success on the ground running the football I don’t think with this offensive line from Detroit and and they got studs everywhere on on on San San Francisco’s defense front to back all pro players whatever but they’re going

To have to put they’re going to have to Blitz to put pressure on golf because they’re not going to do it with four because they’re going to take care of Bosa they’re going to make sure Chase been a great addition all that two and a half

Sacks is all he’s got so he’s not going to win the one-on once Taylor Decker is going to take care of him and they’re going to chip and do whatever they have to the play action pass cuz you’re effective in the Run game Foxy the play

Action pass you get you get six seven sometimes eight man protection and doubles on everybody and he has so much time back there and those deep daggers and Lea an laort Alan St Brown is a absolute stud I mean in a critical moment that guy’s getting you a first

Down and we talked about how they catch the ball and run the freak up the field well that’s not what we said no what we said wasck St Brown Williamson Reynolds their wide receiver group is just as good as the other one and if you don’t

Have Debo on the other side so I see them being able to move the ball defensively if we just if if Aon can keep the ball in front of them they don’t give up explosives all right and then they come after he’s going to come after knowing a he’s going to come after

Prie and he’s going to force him into some bad plays so I I like I like the Lions going out there and not only covering but chance to win this game come on let’s go once again we got to say 114 and one against the spread that man who just

Made that prediction and each week whenever he does this layout uh a lot of the things that are said you know when we’re watching these Thursday night games are starting to unfold in front of our eyes it’s been quite a treat actually to watch your brain work as a

Man who coached for 36 years around football 18 in college 18 the NFL so you got the Lions potential outright but definitely covering the plus seven sound like you’re like I’ll take take the seven and a half too if that’s available somewhere buy buy the half you

Can buy the half too take the hook you say all right let’s go to the AFC foxy that’s got to feel really good yeah no that’s awesome coach sent me a little bit of tape earlier in the week basically saying hey these 49ers might not want to tackle and then we talking

About our offensive line I think the Lions o line has heard so much about the 49ers o line and how good they are so I think they’re come out ready to roll so coach let’s go all right all right so he came in wearing the he’s got yeah now

Makes sense he got the Lion’s blue on that’s why he did it yeah should have known that Bingo Cactus Pete’s the only thing he got that’s blue yeah got that one because you hit uh a progressive yeah bought 800 dep pens at the store downstairs Jesus you get a

Free Progressive jackpotted Cactus you got a hot machine you can’t get up and go to the bathroom just pee your pants Bingo of course I mean that’s gambling especially cactus pets they understand it they actually got a uh they got the pens built into their seats that’s right

At the slot machine yeah right into a pipe you can just poop right pee right here whatever you need to do cactus P cath walk in there want to go hey cactus pets looks like a place that you need to stop spending your time at so it looks

So beautiful Chuck I thought you g go the other way it’s amazing he need to spend more time in yeah sleep there bud is there like a is there a nightclub in there go out there and dance is that place have you ever won coming out of

There oh yeah a lot of winners coming out of cacus pizza absolutely that’s why it looks like that maybe how you get the yeah they they give you the qzip in your room the what qzip quarter zip the quarter zip qip J AJ that was so cool

That was that was so cool I got to get up with the lingo no I I’ve never heard that before I’ve never heard that before I don’t know T pay I mean I got to get with what I mean you were singing earlier though Chuck that was awesome I

Was watching yeah the internet loved it obviously Chuck everything you do is uh you know turn into gold these days especially with your picks you just pick the Lions that’s a beautiful thing so Cactus Pete’s a lot of winners coming out of there mhm I like that all right I

Like that I guess you know you think about the rivers in Pittsburgh Casino like they’re never having an issue lighting a sign there never they’re never having an issue getting a new chandelier in there they’re adding more restaurants and more buffets every single day they got T pay performing

There on just like a Tuesday it’s like where’s all this money coming from and then you see everybody walking out they’re all miserable it’s like there ain’t a single smile walking out of this casino you’re saying Cactus piz smile Factory cactus pets just the will to Beast walking out of there everybody

That’s you just go to Pittsburgh you go to that casino you donate whatever is properly proportion for what you’re going to spend the weekend you tip the corner you say thank you here’s $500 here’s $100 here’s $50 don’t get me killed in Pittsburgh this weekend they

Say you got it losers and take the money in there that’s how it works there sorry about it Cactus Pizza isn’t like that different let’s make our way to cactus pets okay let’s hope to take the lights out of all the sign like thank you you Cactus Pats love you

CA all right let’s go to the AFC side now Chuck obviously you know a lot about the Baltimore Ravens in the city of Baltimore uh Patrick Mahomes in the middle of a dynasty run alongside Travis Kelce Andy Reid in the entire Chiefs Kingdom that has grown this year tfold with

The additive of Taylor Swift in the swifties I love it I think it’s great for the sport I think the energy is at an all-time high right now I think the Chiefs are playing their best ball that they’ve played all here I think they figuring out how to win with this

Particular team which is a good sign of a you know a team being able to adapt and evolve in great players and great coaching and then on the other side just dominant this Baltimore Ravens team has just been dominant now no team was undefeated this year so nobody’s going

To have you know they lost the Colts yeah the Colts are a wagon that’s just how it’s going to go lost the Pittsburgh twice twice but since the games have mattered and they’ve been trying to play they just dominate people this team that is how it is that is what the Ravens

Have been this year new OC new ve field New Vibe how do you think this one goes Chuck yeah number one number one in sacks this year number one uh scoring defense 16.3 points a game whatever it was um Kansas City what they did against Buffalo and that was a depleted Buffalo

Defense they looked a lot better you got Andy Reid you got Pat Mahomes six straight AFC championship games I mean it’s unheard of it’s ludicrous to think that somebody could do that in today’s football Kelsey um yeah I mean everybody’s how can you bet against that

Well to your point all the things that you just talked about this this offense with Lamar Jackson Z flowers obj you’re probably going to get Mark Andrews back for this one but Isaiah likely what he’s come in and done for this offense he just throw the ball up he said y okay

And it doesn’t matter he’s covered but he’s not so just put it somewhere in the AA code and he’s going to come down with it the Run game the offensive line and then this defense with with ran and and Pat Queen and Van Hoy and Clowney and

And metab buuk and and big baby you know Williams inside I mean Kyle Hamilton he’s as good as there is hold on I got a St safety nickel Stone I got Stone 67 interception Marlon Humphrey will come back St Brandon Stevens on the other side Derby came in and bowled out Kyle

Hamilton stat I got one where the hell is it he sends me so many stats Kyle Hamilton’s number one in the league in coverage by like four or five different stats like yards per attempt completion percentage he’s like the number one guy in coverage in the NFL he’s played as

Good or better to your point like at safety we talked about him member during the year uh leading up to one of their games on Thursday night about him being able to play the nickel you know play slot Corner Kyle Hamilton has allowed 261 yards on 62 Targets this season

Making him the number one pass defender in the NFL by that measure 4.2 yards per Target between him and those linebackers they’re about as uh well prepared to match up with Kelsey than anyone yeah and I don’t I see they’ll be able to do that but I I think um and they’re going

To hit P Pacho is a hard I mean that guy’s a stud you got to love the way he plays the game but these two linebackers and this defensive unit yeah it’s the bullies of Baltimore that documentary you guys all watch that right oh yeah these guys are built the

Same freaking way and play the exact same way and like Kyle and Kelsey that’s going to be a great matchup he’s going to he’s going to be on him a bunch in certain situations because he’ll play the nickel spot on early Downs first and second down situations and then when

They go to real you know pass uh obvious pass situation nickel uh Kyle will be at safety he’ll be on he’ll be on Kelce that’ll be a great one to uh he’s long he’s athletic he can run he can mirror he can do all that stuff that’ll be a hard one for

Kelsey to get loose on um and molette comes in and plays the slot Corner already so I I I like the it’s obvious right yeah like all right on Ravens and lions Ravens and lions this Championship weekend I think we should all understand Chuck has been swinging a very hot bat

When he’s picking games AJ we don’t have to make our official picks until tomorrow but what you’re hearing from Chuck is that swaying you at all or are you open-minded how’d you come into the day I try to come into this open-minded but I definitely am always leaning a

Certain way but chuck chuck makes me rethink it it’s tough to go against Chuck when he tries to when he really lays it all out for you it’s tough to pick against him I think I agree and Chuck I think the only way we end this beautiful day is by you winning some

Money for some here go Chuck okay we had a big time winner yesterday in first un first shot I saw it I watched it just drains it no pressure out of knowwhere 15 people won 500 you guys knew as soon as left his hand right I I actually said

Holy cuz I uh you were positive yesterday you were like that’s going in I no I I didn’t even look because I figured all right we got eight of these things coming your hair looks so good what are you using for products you know what you know what Chuck thank you I

Won’t on you while you do this I’m serious You’ changed the way you go about taking care of your hair I I’ve added a couple products I I’ve been I’ve trying to figure it out and I think we might have landed on a couple that that

That have stuck I saw a photo of you from college where you had long hair man got some good locks Bud thank you I appreciate that that’s to my mother in my in my pop pop shout out Philly called pop pop in Philly yep cactus pets a place in Reno

Nevada M Jackpot Nevada o what’s that where is that better jackpot you go to 2 hours south on i84 from Boise to twinfalls and then you head then you head south on Highway 93 for 43 miles okay 43 mil as soon as you cross the the Idaho Nevada border you hit sweet sounds

Good got it did you see Blue Oyster Cult when they were at Cactus Pizza wait BC was there yeah damn where do do you sleep in there there’s places to sleep in there pick a corner man these are the Granite Suites over here Granite Tower okay Granite that’s not a tower put me

Under the cap sign that’s what I want to be under CA my bachelor party back in 1989 was at that casino what yes we went down to my late father-in-law late great rest in peace Ron Hefner freaking unbelievable human being penis pop he had a motor home we

Started at the Labis it’s a horse track and Boise right and then he went two hours south we hired Lou we hired Lou Ray he was a d tackle for us at Boise State we hired him to to drive us down and back and babysit us so to speak make

Sure we get down and back and uh we were loaded in this in this Mo motor home and it went down there and yeah lost a couple bucks and may may have got kicked out of cactus pets yeah but you’re back you got history of this place I I ran I ran

Across the street to try to get into the other one had phoned and said hey such and such is on his way by the time I got to the Chuck a menace down there in Jackpot Nevada yeah front door they were standing at the sir you’re not coming to

Do your drunk Shenanigans over here we heard about what you did over at cactus pets how many people we win in uh for here Chuck how many people uh 25 15 Chuck jackpot 25 people $500 if Chuck Pagano Cactus Pete Legend can put that football into that hoop right over

Yonder go on Chuck for the people Chuck 25 too far too far too strong too jacked up thinking about that bachelor party cus Pet’s got you alled uped up I got to keep going whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you got to shut up old

Man you said you weren’t gonna I know I just thought of that when I said that man what do you think went wrong there you think you were too excited about cactus pets all cpce got y all I’m Juiced up right now all Zed up throw it

From back there Cactus Zeke yeah maybe maybe drop it back a little bit 25 people $500 oh my God good throw good idea there wow you know I saw the uh Pete Rose gave batting instructions to somebody okay and he said uh if I was

Too fast on ball I would just move up in the batter’s box if I was too slow on the ball I would move back in a bars box if I was getting jammed I would move away from a plate and if I wasn’t close I moov closer to the plate how’ you

Become the greatest hit that’s it that’s that’s it you just backing up right there putting yourself into the perfect spot that was a full Dude Perfect Pete Rose type situation that is professional that is that is a sign that this next ball is certainly falled and AJ you had

Something to say to Chuck that was super motivating I remember you read it last night you texted me about it I don’t know about that but Chuck does look great that quarters Z Cactus Pizza I wonder how much money he’s getting or how many free chips he’s getting next

Time he goes back yeah he thinks you’re hustling right now the whole show in operation you should be you should be the qzip does look fantastic will the throw look better than the last two 25 people $500 back up into the pocket oh wow that was a bad bounce I thought that

Was in I know I thought that was in he hit your spot sometimes came off bad yeah you’re rotation you’re throwing a tighter spiral today it looked like it hit the tip and then instead of going in it just ricocheted right off did you warm up today yeah get a glove put a

Glove on that right hand him and dirty were running routs for 25 minutes we don’t need to do the Brock fie no glove thing but I do appreciate dirty out here running routs getting ready for Chuck throwing is is dirty running routes and Chuck’s hitting them Chuck’s hitting them right in the

Number triang how they land yeah you got a good bunching here pretty uh consistent throwing Illuminati well JJ wat got accuse that 25 people 500 yes oh little high little high actually almost came yeah I go the way the thing was spent I thought there was a chance what

Are you going with be careful with that Natty national championship ball 2023 we almost got been this thing we literally got a costed coming out of the St minute for me a making one yeah but that all changes right now 25 people $500 Chuck pug gun worst throw of the worst throw

Of the year that one left the gym not good he went for it in the gym coach you’re making me nervous by your Lion’s pick with these throw his picks and throws do not correlate we know that it’s not it’s 114 and one we didn’t know if the universe was

Potentially Tai wanted to tell you something coach shirani had something this uh coach stop around and spin that Duke and put it in the hole okay you’re you’re sliding back you’re moving up find a spot that you feel comfortable in and put that son of home believe in you sometimes it’s all you

Need and people are questioning that guy if he could coach yeah right oh give me another one yeah good job Chuck yeah so what’s your job going to be I’m a head football coach okay suck my dick how that that’s exactly what I would have said who’s got it better than us

Nobody 25 $500 great throw Chuck AJ great work today boys in the back fantastic Chuck we love you man boys I’ll see you tomorrow for a Feel Good Friday yeah be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life we’re in this thing together remember that goodbye