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BUSSIN WITH THE BOYS x SPITTIN’ CHICLETS – Ep 480



On Episode 480 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the guys are joined by the Taylor Lewan and Will Compton from Bussin’ With The Boys (01:11:12) to talk about their NFL careers, the journeys to becoming football players and now podcasters. It’s definitely an interview you don’t want to miss. But first, the boys talk about the big news in the NHL with the NY Islanders hiring of Patrick Roy, Corey Perry going to Edmonton, and all the other hot topics going on around the league. Lastly, a big thank you and farewell to Erika, Barstool CEO.

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[Applause] It’s my duty to please the booty and must got mad at me the coach that he goes Jesus Christ why don’t you just wor two nines in away okay switch to please please please never do that yep hello everybody and welcome to episode 480 of spit and chickets presented by

Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the Bol Sports podcast family how we doing gang we have a legend returning to the NHL a team on a Legendary Run and we have goofy Dumbo and Dopey down in Orlando let’s go to Goofy for piz your team is [ __ ] the

Island there a huge move we gotta dive right into it yeah and we got Tyrone bams up in Boston Butch Goring is bending me over at this point holy [ __ ] how Hey listen AR I know you had the big movie premiere that we’re going to get to and that kind

Of got bumped back because of all this crazy news but speaking about movies the NHL at this point with dog has to be [ __ ] scripted it’s a this season straight out of Hollywood is The Wizard of Oz at this point this is [ __ ] nuts not just the Patty W news but then your

Oilers adding Corey Perry I think we should try to stick on topic my mind’s going a million miles an hour let’s start with the Patty news I don’t know if you have anything formal to announce about it ra but this is just I don’t think anybody in the world saw this

Curve curveball coming other than who this janitor that’s been dming Merles no I think it was a border worker so for people well all right why don’t you just why don’t you just go into the actual news set the table mer is the Merles is the angriest human alive currently well

You know Saturday was hockey Day in Canada well of course every day is but it was an American team that stole the [ __ ] Thunder the New York Islanders they fight Lane Lambert only one and a half Seasons That’s it they replaced them with the one and only Patrick W

Hasn’t coached in the league in eight years he just won the Memorial Cup with the Quebec Grand pots uh Lou lell said it was the only guy he called he didn’t talk to anybody else he just called Patrick W and Patrick said he he he said

Like he kind of [ __ ] up when he when he quit the Avalanche he acknowledged that he tried to make a power move against sakic and he wanted more power for well with the roster and [ __ ] and that’s why he didn’t get any calls and then he kind of did his Penance you know

Went back to Juniors and now he got the call for the [ __ ] the Islanders now he’s back uh he went out Jack Adams is first time a Colorado then he was in the playoffs once and that was it man Biz this is the hugest story I think all

Yeah nobody saw this coming we’ve been talking about Pat Watry play in this this [ __ ] coach that coach whatever like how much of a shock is this first of all and is is this going to be able to work I mean he’s got a heavily veteran team he’s going from a bunch of

Young kids to a bunch of old guys this is [ __ ] fascinating right now this well I’d say the biggest shock is the fact that Lou lamell listens to the spit and chicklets podcast because not too long ago we had Pierre Cedric la come on and he was vouching for Patty was saying

That he’s really looking for his second opportunity and he’s a changed guy it’s funny that he did go into it a little bit as far as talking about the incidents in Colorado where maybe he was trying to step outside of his boundaries as opposed to coach and figure out what

Type of personnel to be and now I think that as a head coach you should always have a say in that type of meeting right like you’re you you you’ve been around Stanley Cup winning teams where you know that what personnel is going to be good

For you winning in the long run with maybe maybe it was maybe coming in a little too hot off the start well I think what happened was he went there he won the Jack Adams they got in the playoffs and then the next two seasons they were horrible I think one of the

Years they were the worst team in the league he ends up resigning now the resignment it it was tough it was August like 15th or August 10th so I mean The Season’s coming up you got everything planned so the way he went out he’s made it openly clear that that was like the

Main reason he didn’t think he was getting a look for a while but he was also the vice president of hockey operations in Colorado he wasn’t just the head coach so he had a little bit of a saying things and then at some point he oversteps his boundaries and he

Probably didn’t like where sack wanted to take the team and all of a sudden that power struggle became such an issue that teams over the course of the next eight years when his name possibly got mentioned up they’re saying we can’t be dealing with that right this is a loud

Personality this is a fiery guy it’s funny I don’t mind the odd [ __ ] you match but I don’t need him every day in the off I don’t need him every day and I don’t need him telling me that I can’t play these two defenseman it’s like the

Coach is coach the GM’s build the roster figure it out from there you said it you need teamwork you need some stability within but you cannot have a guy and it’s too difficult to coach the NHL that was another quot quote by raah he said I

Now have kind of learned what it takes to be a successful coach how much time how much planning and effort they don’t have the time or the ability or the wherewithal to be able to be dealing with other front office things so I think it’s going to work out great I

Really do I think the fact that he is a fiery guy is what the Islanders need I don’t know laye Lambert at all and and maybe he wasn’t like this in the room but just seemed a little vanilla and I know we’ve seen him explode on the bench

A couple times but you now have a guy coming in that is and here’s the best thing the tweet I saw the division the coaches in that division we got we got Patty W Mike Sullivan’s been known to lose his mind brinda Mo has been fined

About 400 Grand by the league we got Lindy Ruff he may end up getting gassed at one point right who knows I don’t know posha sorry you’re in the room we um uh who else is who’s in the Rangers to to T I said t if I’m if I’m New

Jersey I would get baru right now cuz you’re you’re going to need going hell you’re going to need him to fill in for the Leafs here I think possibly B so let’s slow your roll makes a lot of sense Le ain’t going to do nothing Leaf

Ain’t going to do but but back to Patrick w i I think even though it’s been eight years in terms of his quotes it seems like he’s learned a lot and you always get that first go around you’re excited you think you know everything and then you take a step back you don’t

Get any calls for a while you’re coaching again the team has success and he was really disappointed when we didn’t get the Columbus job he was up for that Columbus job he didn’t get it I think he was probably crushed by that and thought maybe that was it I don’t

Know and boom Lou comes flying in over the ra out of the rafters over the top rope and he just threw an absolute wrench into the entire NHL season I I wonder what sparked his mind to not only just like go talk to Patty W but the

Fact that he would only talk to Patty W thinking that that’s the answer his quote was he can flat out coach and I think I think part of it is how crazy and and intense he is and with this team yeah it’s older veterans they got all these older guys signed to long-term

Deals but he needs some fire in that room but they they have no other option besides being all in on trying to get in the Stanley Cup Playoffs if you get in we saw Florida last year go on the run anything can happen especially this season God knows just get them in they

They can’t they can’t it’s not like they’re like a younger team I wait till next year no we got to go on this R we got like three four years they probably feel like and he’s going to be there for the long term this isn’t just a quick

Hire Patty was and New York Islander now I don’t think he’s as much as a wild card as everyone thinks too I mean I I don’t think I think if you snap I think if you pulled like I don’t know a 100,000 hockey fans maybe 10 people

Would have guessed that they would have fired him for p he was interviewing with NHL jobs this summer and we did that interview earlier this summer where where it was uh he almost got the Columbus Blue Jackets head coaching job right so it’s like he has been in the

Race and almost getting head coaching jobs it just hasn’t been that public to to everyone I would have guessed that would have stepped behind the bench before he would have had hired Patty W as the head coach but now saying this some people are like oh well whatever

They just got a new coach like nothing about the Personnel is going to change I think he’s going to be able to turn this group around and if they’re a wild card team man I don’t think it [ __ ] matters I could see I could see a Florida type turnaround where they they

Just end up getting in they hit their hot streak in the second half of the season and what’s the one thing that hasn’t really been there like it was last year soken and [ __ ] you don’t think Patty was going to call him in the office and instill that confidence

Quickly back in him so he can get to that level and also I don’t know how many people saw clips of that first practice like you know they’re doing battle drills left right and Center he’s stopping the drills talking probably saying we need even more intensity here

And if there was I I think it was Adam foot and and a few other guys we’ve had on the podcast who played with Colorado when Patrick W was there and he was very much involved about the structure of the team in the was just a goalie that’s

Just chilling in the crease he’s into everything I think he roomed I think he roomed with Adam foot when they were on the road despite being veterans at the time and they would go over defensive Zone structure as opposed to hey if the puck is here and this is what you think

The guy has this is where I want you guys position this is where I want the shot coming from so to be able to to communicate to the players and maybe even soken how that all works that’s just such valuable information and and and something that a lot of coaches

Wouldn’t be able to explain to their to their team and the other aspect of of Lou being comfortable with this hire like he’s a guy that runs all the hockey he runs the show hockey operations GM everything he’s doing it all so he knows Patrick’s not going to be bitching to me

I’m not the guy you [ __ ] to Lord Lou no one [ __ ] with him and his decision so I know he’s going to coach they probably made that pretty clear in terms of like that being a conversation around all the media writing about W being hired it was

Very evident that he’s open to now knowing I have no say in the roster I’m going to coach the [ __ ] out of this team the other crazy thing about Lou is he hires Canadian Legends to coach his teams he hired Larry Robinson he hire who else did he hire um at one point

Jack L ja L mer yeah Pat Burns coach for him correct ra he was in Montreal right so it’s like there’s some sort of connection there who knows if that’s just random and I believe Patty W was coached by most of those guys of of the

List that you just mentioned of guys he hired so there’s a lot of connection there and I’m sure a lot of communication and maybe as you keep talking it makes more and more sense why he was eventually the guy but it is weird and and we’ve talked about the

Islanders this year that like their power play was horrific for years now their power plays hubman a lot of that has to do with Noah Dobson who probably hasn’t been mentioned by us along with the rest of the League this year in terms of how good he’s been but then

What goes hand inand with a bad PK is a goalie not playing great and soken hasn’t been himself right like if I believe soken deserved the vzna last year and obviously end up giving it to um in Boston there Mark which you know the records and their team I understand

It but sokin was the one thing with the Islanders you don’t worry about that and then if W comes in like you say and he pumps him up and he talks about Hey listen I’ve watched your games this is what maybe I’m seeing like how much

Easier is it for a goalie I’m guessing to listen to a Hall of Fame goalie talk to him it’s so different most coaches aren’t goalies you don’t you the head coach is probably like hey I’m just going to stay away I don’t know what to tell you and and Anders Lee was was

Interviewed and of course he’s like everybody in this room knows how big of a legend this guy is so so automatically he walks in there and has all of their attention and respect and even just like shifting towards the back end too you mentioned Noah Dobson they have been

Banged up a little bit like Mayfield missed a little bit of time he he’s he’s a clock muncher really good at blocking shots pelich is he back in the lineup now I think so I mean he’d missed I mean a decent amount of significant time so

They haven’t really been able to to have every guy in the lineup on the back end at one time so that I mean that hasn’t happened for too many games so that’s going to be a huge boost and getting him in the right dire and you can’t forget

About that uh that addition not too long ago of Bobby you know orzo so on the if you think of common teams of successful teams in most recent playoffs winning Stanley Cups it’s big defense and big back end and that’s what they got right now and that’s if you’re if you’re an

Islanders fan you have to be all horned up CU because even like even if like I look at who can compete with the top teams in the East and if you ask me who the top teams were right now I think a lot of teams are very Prett much even

Keel at second I think that Florida is the best team in the East right now I think Bruins fans have a legit gripe that nobody really considers them the best when they’ve been the best all year but Florida yeah they’re a different animal the way they play but back to the

Islanders quick pulock on the IR berzo is on the IR varlamov is on the IR cikas is on the IR engal’s day-to-day get those guys back I mean those are all legit players and how much could they use varlam of right now was sokin maybe fighting a little bit so it’s an

Exciting well crazy saying they’re an exciting team it’s an exciting situation right you’ve talked about how boring they could be but that’s kind of how they have to play with with the with the Personnel they have but W behind the bench he’s going to change some things

And there’s no doubt you’re going to see an immediate impact because the way he’s so intense like these guys have to answer the Bell they have to and they know and his quote was every game’s a playoff game it’s a little bit of a cliche but we we’re sitting on the

Outside that we can’t be looking at this last 38 games whatever it is as as chill time no we this is playoffs right us they’ll probably have to they’ll probably have to be on at a 700 clip the rest of the way to get in so you know

That it’s it starts right off the bat and they play tonight don’t they yeah they play in Dallas yeah and then even crazier G you had this tweet they’re playing at the Bell Center on Thursday like come on like come on the SC the script continues yep

And how how many days do they have off in Montreal so all the media circus can continue this is amazing whatever whatever they’re doing to plan this out this is amazing this is big this is bigger than the NFL Taylor Swift and Kel Kelsey drama um but but before the

Before the announcement I mean I don’t know if I’ve seen a fan base maybe Jersey as loud about firing the coach like the Islanders fans they could not stand laye Lambert behind the bench anymore look who you had before him you had Barry trots before him it’s like and

They fired Barry trots for that for this guy and and people thought it was going to happen a lot sooner and that was in the first half of the year maybe a little bit early on when they kept blowing these leads where that’s hey third period leads with Barry trotz they

They’ll [ __ ] put your nuts in a vice man straight anaconda choke hold you ain’t getting [ __ ] in the third period And also the the the it’s it’s not the like for soken it’s the high quality scoring chances maybe more so than they were with Barry trots and sticking with the goal tending

Conversation like you’re always going to need pieces up front to add a little bit more offense I would say that that’s the Islanders been that’s probably been one of their issues in recent memory they I mean where they lose that Eastern Conference Final at to Tampa one nothing

They just they they they need those big goals C could they maybe come off of varlamov being an unrestricted free agent in the off season where you have this valuable goalie and teams are so [ __ ] Des think of how many teams right now that are in a playoff picture

Like who are so desperate for a goenda are so you’re saying trade Varley I don’t I’m saying if soken in in the next month can get back to looking like him and it’s it’s never a bad thing to have an insurance policy a net but think

Of the type of return you could get for varlamov as far as a positional player and maybe a guy up front like you know prob You’ probably get a really good third line player who can help contribute offensively and add but if you’re grabbing him you’re not it’s

Those teams aren’t trading like guys that are important to their lineup they’re trading draft picks and process I don’t if you’re trading varlamov right now that’s a team who’s trying to get in the playoffs needs some depth and goal they’re not going to give you a piece

They’re going to give you a future aspect a future I I know what you’re saying I’m just trying to kick up dust too right now you’re just trying to get him a little more offensive Firepower yeah that’s what I’m saying but it it it’s certainly made for an incredible

Storyline around the league like the fact he comes back midseason and of all people it’s a Lou Laro or and he goes with from the beard in the press conference to being clean shaven on the ice I mean so I do we ever get the full

Story as to to why that is and does does he view it as during the season your going to shave and then if you make the playoffs you’ve earned the right to grow a beard is that kind of the mentality behind lose a shave I think if we’re

Going to try to sit here and and get inside Lou Lamar’s head we might never leave Orlando that’s that’s like who knows he subscribes to our YouTube channel maybe we should just maybe we should just reach up that was a that was a Yankees real Biz uh for a long time

They still don’t allow facial hair or yeah but so so so is it documented that he inherited from from steinner like boys were they dabing each other up in the street were I think the franchise were Affiliated a few years back I it might have something to do with it plus

I mean he’s an old Italian guy I mean probably thinks it’s like ungentlemanly to have a [ __ ] beat or some crazy [ __ ] like that do you think he had to tell Patty or do you think it was like do you think he had the conversation

Like hey dude you got to sh I would imagine it was a segue out of the hey I’m not having [ __ ] you matches every day in the office about Personnel oh yeah and here’s a big razor with some shaving cream get that [ __ ] beard off your faceit so just crazy too like like

Like think of the French goalies you got Marty Broder with the wins record flurry passes Patty W and then all of a sudden boom From the Ashes Patty W back I mean it’s kind of wild because you know a few months ago oh goalies not a big deal you don’t need [ __ ] great

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You go to they’re sure to have it so thank you thank you all pink Whitney New Amsterdam Biz a lot of coaches on the hot seat right now uh the other night Dallas was in New Jersey they beat him up six to2 it was Sergey Brea night in

New Jersey he won three cups with the team the performance was so bad the fans are CH chanting sorryi Sergey to a three-time Cup winner uh Lindy Ruff snapped at the reporter Ryan novinski after yeah little sensitive there he was he was Grill him about uh what was it

Alex Holtz and I believe Alex Holtz had just played around 10 minutes and the guy was like why aren’t you playing Alex Holtz more you know he’s cuz he has looked good at periods this year posha POS is in the corner he’s giving me the head notot I thought that he’s

Definitely progressing game since last year after he tied the game up in the third period yes and then Lindy basy said that he threw a pizza up the middle he before the goal though so it’s like all right dude like sorry to interrupt no no jump in you seem passionate about

It well well well the problem was the way he talked to the reporter he’s like well you don’t you obviously don’t watch the game and it’s like well actually even if I don’t know x’s and o’s in the game of hockey like a 30-year NHL head

Coach what I do know is the guy tied the game up he’s one of your offensive type players especially with all the injuries they have you need more goals and you’re benching him for a play he made before the goal like obviously you weren’t that

Mad that you threw him out on the power play when he ties it up on the onetime it’s 22 then they’re down and he doesn’t see the ice because of a mistake in the second and then the way uh Lindy’s talking he’s like you know he throws it

To the middle we don’t need to throw it to the middle well I ended up uh there was a Devils fan who found the clip he threw it to the middle just missed the I think it was a defenseman he was trying to hit cut knob they got a chance there

Wasn’t a goal it’s like I don’t know if it’s a coach putting his ego aside or it’s he’s so um like he’s so obsessed with with trying to get the message through to this what was say they’re they’re in a position they need to win games this kid can score you need

Another goal like what are you doing right now yeah so you just said for the message to get through like maybe that’s been a frustration for Lindy all season long because they do like to play a certain style of game they like to take OPP like take chances maybe he’s sick of

Seeing these type of turnovers and he thinks that’s that that’s what’s leading to a lot of these losses so maybe it was something that was said to him over and over in video sessions and meetings so where it ended up building up and you said well he still threw him out there

And he ended up scoring on the power play so often times when you’re snapping around and working on the power play leaning up to games you don’t want to just maybe take a guy out of that role and another guy in so I I I get where

You’re coming from but it def definitely came off as very sensitive and I feel like the pressure is Mount and I’ve said it a few times leading up to the to this podcast where I felt that Andrew brunette helped out a ton with that coaching staff and and had a good

Way of connecting with the younger players he did so when he was in Florida I thought he kind of got a bit of the shaft in Florida although genius higher with Paul Maurice and that’s turning out great now posha is sitting to my left now are you coming to talk about whether

You think Lindy Ruff should get fired or not are you coming are you coming to to to try to back up your horrible JT Miller uh I’m not one of those fans that’s calling for Lindy’s head he’s not a perfect coach but his handling of Holtz is definitely something that I don’t like

He’s got he’s got it out for this guy Holtz has as many five on five goals as neander dry Sidle and Pon he’s got 11 five on five goals and this guy plays eight minutes a night buried on the fourth line he came ready to play today

He got holy [ __ ] that man he’s got he’s got the best shot on the team he’s the headphones on ladies and gentlemen he means business well he’s making good it I didn’t know about the five on five goal stat but continually to play 9 to 10 minutes with offensive guys injured and

You’re an offensive young High pick it f that that drives fans insane because in their mind they’re like we got a future 34 goal guy 30 40 goal guy let us see him and a coach is just like no I don’t know what’s I don’t know if he rinse

Lindy’s wife or what cuz oh je okay here we go rumor boys rumor boys got out my joke and like you said W like the guy can score the Devils need scoring and yeah the way he’s handled Holtz has been brutal but I mean I I still don’t think

Lindy should be fired with the injuries they’ve had the goal tting they’ve had he needs Jack to come back give him a run with Daws and net and the team healthy if they’re struggling still it’s another question quick reminder here they’re on the outside looking in

They’re not in a playoff spot they have games in hand I understand what is your punishment again if they miss playoffs I have to get your name tattooed in my ass I thought it was pierced eyebrow again that’s if they don’t make it out want my

Name so he’s GNA have a pierced eyebrow and a tattoo on his ass they I think he wants that tattoo on his ass uh here’s a thing I’ll say right considering the Islanders and the devils are in a pretty similar spot right now right would you

Say not at all no no no no this season I’m not talking about future bet the house on how so how so the Islanders have been mostly healthy all year and they suck the Devils once they get healthy we just we just talked about some of their

I know that but the Islanders are where they are being mostly healthy the devils are where they are buddy such an absolute lunatic they I don’t care how they’ve gotten here they’re in a similar position in the NHL right now if you’re talking purely points in the standings yes but Outlook

Moving forward think about what the Devils have on the way to help out Islanders are the same [ __ ] old slow roster if I’m a top team and I get in I’d rather play the [ __ ] Devils than I’d play the Islanders in the first round sure how that work

No no last year was a different story with your team and you know it every single aspect of the Devils this year the vibe the the well although I guess they were they were chanting fire Lindy game one last year so it’s just I guess time is a flat circle but there is

Something weird and injuries they’re enormous but you know what a lot of haters of the Devils would say everyone deals with injuries [ __ ] name a team that’s had more injuries no no I will say you guys have had the injury bug but based uh your big stats guy what would

They have to finish the season at right now New Jersey in order to probably clinch a playoff spot I believe there’s 76 points left on the table for them and they probably have to get 96 to 98 points total they’re at 49 right now so they did another 39 points out of 76

Roughly I mean they’re two back at what a game in hand on Detroit playing right now they’re not like yeah the season isn’t over by any means it’s just everything around that team it’s like a cursed season right now it looks like a curs season their goal tending has been

A joke injuries have been ridiculous available so what do you do about the goal tending and what do you do about like at some point vanich you’re like oh you think Marty comes back that Patty’s back shoot him to the Moon vanich is to the moon no honestly at this point Marty

Would be better than vanage he’s been so bad like I gave him a lot of leash he was breaking roer’s records last year for win streaks and stuff but then collaps in the playoffs this year he’s been so bad I hope he never plays the Devils again and I’ve heard he’s an

Amazing guy whatever he sucks out done you’re done him okay all right well Brat’s done his job Hughes is amazing just can’t stay healthy I mean listen blame Lindy for a 891 Z percentage wi I mean it’s 30th in the league it’s not him to blame but but this is what I

Think you can maybe blame Lindy on 44 games they’ve given up the first goal in 31 of them that’s almost 75% of the time you’ll get up the first goal that tells me a team that’s not the plank walk the plank I agree all right that that’s a

Really weird stat and that’s inexcusable they’re always slow out of the gate that’s definitely a concern but like you said yeah this is a team missing five of their six d man from last year okay and and if you’re Fitzy what are you going to do are you going to give Graves and

Severon the contracts they got absolutely not like those are brutal deals long term so I agree with that I agree with that so instead of them you’ve got a 19-year-old Simone neemt and a 20-year-old Luke Hugh stepp in so of course shortterm it’s going to hurt them but I’d rather the little

Short-term growing pain you said all this you said all this that this year they take a little step back right but it’s all been magnified cuz they can’t get saves right so everything just looks worse and then you Hamilton being hurt Sean ther being hurt now that’s what I

Talking about the forwards what is Hamilton’s like when do they think he can be back he pulled his pack and sometimes t p is that like is that like if they make playoffs he’s back or yeah it’ll be right around playoff time so I think he’s G uh Fitz is going to pull

The old CRA off ltir use that 99 million to hopefully bring in you know Chris tanav type bring in a goalie and and then you know bring Hamilton back early May is what they’re saying for him last stat I’m going to ask you about uh Jack

Hughes is well on Pace to break over 100 points you have this bet going with wit he has dealt with injury at what point right now what does it sit his point production Pace it’s going to take a lot for it to happen this year he’s at 45

Right now like he would have to come back and hit the ground running to hit it I hope he does it’s not looking good for this year are you mad you didn’t take the take the buy out absolutely not cuz he’s going to smash it next year

Okay we’ll see I I you know what this is like a win-win for me in terms of losing money that sucks but I like the kid and I love his game so in the end it is it has turned into an interesting bet I’ll say that Pasha one more thing before we

Let you go 46 games played 21 goals 42 points 6 42 assists 63 points for JT Miller like like like it as as good friends and like we spent some so much time together like just say it like you you [ __ ] up on this one man this guy

Is so haing your dreams he’s haunting your Dre he is playing unbelievable going to be the Boogey Man in your closet in Vancouver set guys up he’s scoring big go like he is just a gamer all I’ll say is that I maintain what I said at the start of the year in

The terms of everything I said was true for him the last few seasons yes he’s taken a step this year he’s producing a lot more however five on five he’s still not that great offensively and he is not good defensively and he still has the worst body language in the league so he

Is better than what I thought in November he’s having a hell of a year you’re like my wife you exactly yeah he yeah he’s the pregnant wife that finally going to raise the cup and he’s going to be having the con Smite the POS I don’t know man his

Shoulders his shoulders were Shrugged in the celebration unreal all right well hey buddy uh thanks for coming on give us the double one guy that I really think could have turned your season around was Cory Perry but the Edmonton Oilers the Whit dog you have to be hopping back on this

Bandwagon okay so should I just address everything right now oh actually when we’re talking Oilers I think I have my favorite Bob stofer text of all time I can read he’s been huming just just describing what has happened there this guy’s a Legend So in terms of me and the

Oilers it’s it’s it’s come to this I’m going to be honest with everyone I haven’t missed a game okay like I’m looking at the camera I have not not watched the game yes they lost San Jose and I made it a big deal of I was off the bandwagon I never stopped

Watching okay there is something I don’t know how to explain it if I tweet about the Oilers the the the worst stuff imaginable happens the other night I well I tweeted we’re going to wax the leafes and then I S here we go and sure

As [ __ ] they’re losing and I had to get off my phone and they come back and win so at this point it’s like everyone in edmon no I am a fan and you can blame me and say that this because I hopped off the social media ban wagon this is why

They’re winning which we also called would happen when I quit we said they’re going to go on a run like this everything that I’ve said has come true now unfortunately I can’t be a part of it I’m like the kid on the outside who doesn’t get picked for the kickball game

But I I just I want everyone to know I’m there I just I whenever I talk about them like bad stuff happens so I just have to stay away and root for every G root for them to win every game and just I don’t know be on the sidelines it

Blows because imagine if I hadn’t stopped imagine if I had a set of balls and I just stuck with him like imagine my I could be ripping up Twitter on a rampage right now but I can’t say a word because ever since I went silent the team’s unbelievable but I called this

And I wrote a tweet the morning of the first game of the NHL season explaining how excited I was that NHL was back and I said in the Edmonton war is going to win the Stanley Cup and nobody saw that start nobody but right now this is a

Team oh yeah who is firing on all cylinders and people like POS and people out there who say they’re just a McDavid and Leon team I don’t think so anymore buddy have you seen Ryan McLoud last 12 games 12 points seven goals he’s one of the fastest skaters in the league I I

Think this team right now is on the perfect projection and yes I guess if the beginning of the Season hadn’t happened they’d be even better off but you know what they dealt with that they they had to figure themselves out they got a new coach and now this team is on

Unstoppable they’re Unstoppable every single area that we are criticizing they’ve improved they’ve improved goal tending has been tremendous what Paul coffee has done with the back end Evan buard is [ __ ] he might end up top three for the [ __ ] Norris the way that he’s humming offensively and also

It ain’t just that too he looks way better defensively Darnell nurse looks like a whole different [ __ ] player uh you you talked about them leaning on the big boys it ain’t really like that anymore right now even throughout this run this 13 game Run I think there’re 10

Games in which McDavid only has one point where but also if you watch him his game looks different too and I’m not McDavid is still doing mcdavid’s stuff but the efforts he’s putting forth on in every area of the ice where it just ain’t him [ __ ] dancing guys and going

Backhand cheddar off these crazy rushes like if like let’s go back to that Toronto game when they ended up getting that gamewinner who was the guy in the corner who F Well I think he ended up winning the face off then he’s in the [ __ ] corner and on the four check

Disrupting Riley ends up winning that that puck battle the play continues it goes to the point shot to the net he gets a stick on it and who was there battling Austin Matthews in front of the net where it was it Fogle who ended up popping out moud it was McLoud so and

And auson didn’t look great on that one hey what okay okay but he ended up going into Calgary the next game and literally put the team he’s the least of the worries so the so I’m just saying to get out of the way of a shot it was a little

It was a little I’ll be honest if I was on Pace for 70 I wouldn’t block one single [ __ ] shot let’s just make that I didn’t block one and I wasn’t never on Pace for anything but um the the Fogle and moud brazing their game and the fact

That they’re also getting this done where I feel like a Vander Kane can reach another level and if he goes back to even 75% of what he was when they made their run to the Western Conference Finals what I think he still ended up leading the league in in or in playoff

Goals that year yeah he had a ton he had like 12 or 14 goals and then now you add Perry to the mix and who’s the other kid is it Holloway yeah he’s coming out yeah he’s got a lot of speed dud a lot of

Speed and he he’s a disruptor so all of a sudden you got the first two lines absolutely humming right now playing unreal 200 foot games they’re not having to [ __ ] drop the Ace of Spades every game where [ __ ] uh dry Sidle and McDavid are playing 24 25 minutes that

Was a major issue that anybody with half a brain had where it couldn’t be sustainable in playoffs they’re not having to do that they’re winning games 3-2 mentality and locking things down once Evander Kane’s line gets going and he starts [ __ ] humming and if they can [ __ ] get Cory Perry being the

Worm and a disruptor just like that hallay on the fourth line look out with I agree with you that could be the team that comes out of the West so um I’ll read your st’s text oh man I can’t wait for this let me put my hand in my pants

One second so it’s just I and just like knowing Stu and how he talks and seeing him type it out makes better sweating his balls off reading this there Ryan Jay woodc played a hybrid defensive zone system we went over this back in the struggles the Wingers up high on the D

And then basically a low three three on three man on man for the centers and the D defensively Vegas destroyed Edmonton five on five as the series went on last year they got Edmonton running around they were creating a lot of grade A scoring chances off of long Cycles also

True Cassidy coach is a Zone Montgomery kept Cassidy Zone when he took over the Bruins look what they’ve done so Woodcraft had done a deep dive in the summer on the Zone tried to implement it through training camp in the start of the season but he had not coached it

Before he pivoted back to hybrid for the Heritage Classic well Chris noblock came from Rob Dom’s Alberta Golden Bears program which has been playing a Zone forever exclamation point the the Albert Alberta Golden Bears are a program and a half Chris coaches Zone he knows Zone

This is what I love this is my favorite Zone D started in sport in the NFL in the 1960s because cornerbacks couldn’t cover Bob Hayes from the Cowboys he won the 1964 he won the 196 400 met at the Olympics so teams dropped the safety back the NBA had to Outlaw zone defense

Cuz it worked games were too lower scoring in hockey Zone allows you to have a have at least one D always in front of the net the center becomes more important to low support coverage oh yeah but when you get the Pucket allows for a quick transition off and up the

Middle of the ice where the Oilers have strength but Oilers decoach Dave Manson he didn’t want the Oilers D making mistakes coming up the middle of the ice understandably you know a lot of defensive coaches keep it out of the middle so Edmonton went up the wall a

Ton under Woodcraft and Manson and teams were sealing the wall on them but noblock and coffee have empowered the D to make plays they are playing Zone the Oilers are much better at being on the right side of the puck five on five they limit the chances again off against off

The rush the goalies mostly skinners simply aren’t seeing the same amount of aade opportunities five on five as they did under Woodcraft noblock changed the PK too Woodcraft used 23 sets for forwards in his 13 games noblock and Mark Stewart who took over the PK from Manson primarily used three sets of

Forwards Newen Hopkins Derrik Ryan Yan Mark Connor Brown McLoud and Fogle Dr Sidle comes on to take the dzone draws for Yan Mark then he goes off those three forwards pairings have been given ownership and role Clarity the Edmonton Oilers are for real I hope he was just talking Round of

Applause for Bob [ __ ] St holy you don’t think that guy dialed you don’t think Bob ster knows hockey and then his last little note was the PK was in 30th 70% when jayw Woodcraft was fired under noblock in 29 games played the PK is second at

88.5% and as a result has moved up to ninth overall in the league so everyone who hates the Oilers and says it’s all McDavid it’s all Leon you have no clue what you’re talking about this is a complete team in terms of the future fans hate Cody CeCe he’s playing with

Nurse on the top pair I feel bad being the defense he’s going to be the Jack he’s going to be the Jack Johnson just like just like but they need they need they need a defenseman they need to grab a defenseman just something just something I don’t know I think you roll

The dice with Cody CE no I’m not saying it’s to like not have him play another guy on the back end and maybe little goal tending help I’m not exactly sure but far it’s incredible to see what the Oilers have done I mean I I don’t I

Don’t I don’t think I don’t think there’s a team in the league right now if they’re playing that that that could even sniff them bring on anyone right now watch them lose 10 in a row and uh and of course they added Cory Perry

Which I you know we were T we talked was it last podcast about this and we were going rumor Boys on I thought that there was no possible way he ended up in Canada with the media circus and obviously the everything that’s gone on but once you did say from your your

Trusted Insider G that that was a potential landing spot Edmonton makes the most sense it’s they don’t give a [ __ ] it’s the one place in Canada they’re like like I don’t give a [ __ ] about the SJ dubs online I just want to win [ __ ] hockey game any City what

You don’t even know what happened so what the [ __ ] does anyone care nobody knows the story I understand but you know how the media Works in Canada it’s the whole reason why they’re saying that Elio Peterson doesn’t want to sign there that’s Merles that’s the mer oh okay no

But I think Perry and I said this to ra or UB like yeah the fir the first press conference like they’ll be he’ll they’ll be asking him all these questions which he’ll say which he’ll say no comment to and then what are they going to do they’re not going to keep talking about

It it’ll be over so no matter the market the beginning will be a little weird and then he’ll play and you know what he’s going to do he’s going to be a rat and he’s going to play up and down the lineup and he’s going to get spot on the

Second power play and imagine if Connor Brown starts scoring he missed a wide open net in Calgary on Saturday night he still doesn’t have a goal this year what a loser V was Unreal that game just kidding just kidding I didn’t score many either uh do you hear they’re they’re

Changing their uh their third Jersey to Orange jump shoots oh for who trying to say Perry did a crime no I’m I’m just saying they submitted I I it was a request I didn’t say they get it granted yet I think that the Oilers are so fun

To watch to now I’m not biased but I’m just saying Bravo is doing a behind the scenes dock on them the rest of the season did you hear that R they’re throwing in some real housewives yeah yeah cson crley no a couple numbers on noblock though uh 23 and six since

Taking over uh the fifth coach in NHL history to record a win streak of 12 plus games in his first season with the franchise how about these numbers with 12-0 versus the West 8-0 versus the Pacific uh he’s also done something no other coaches ever done uh the first

Head coach to have two separate seven game winning streaks at least seven game winning streaks in their first 25 games so this guy found the magic button for the squad they’re getting it done so if they go want to get home ice in the first round he’s he’s finalist for Jack

Adams correct uh I was was buub finalist when they had that turnaround did he win it that we get a Google search here but I would agree with I mean if going on your win percentage he’ll probably be at the top if that’s the case it’s couver is just

So good because of JT Miller they can’t catch him yeah and the full body of work and then also not having um McDavid and dry Sidle but very impressive what they’ve done now they add Cory Perry so I think that we can all agree they’re at least going to the Stanley Cup finals

That’s kind of what Cory Perry does whether they’re going to win it or not I don’t know bar uh Barry trotz won it that year okay thank you we we do got to give a quick stroke to Edmonton too I mean 13 straight wins that’s the most

The Canadian team has ever had they passed the 6768 Canadians a pretty damn good team in their own right uh the record is the 9293 Penguins they went 17 straight uh Edmonson team record ninth straight road win uh they did it wearing the potato sacks the other night those

Are [ __ ] ugly Unis man I know it’s the Heritage [ __ ] but those are horrible uh Oilers they also set a franchise record with 11 consecutive games allowing two or fewer goals Stewart’s get him man we got to tip the cap to him yeah I don’t think they’re gonna be

Shopping for goalie now Biz with the what he’s been doing lately uh 10th straight thought tied gr fuel for the franchise record with uh two a fuel goals in his last nine STS guys been getting it done eight of the 13 wins they’ve come from behind I don’t know

Man this team has been unbelievable since the [ __ ] go uh coaching change but and they have Columbus and Chicago they got a couple couple layups they’re going to get the 15 for sure now are are they are they the bad boys of the league right now are they the bad boys no who

Are the bad boys the Florida panther yeah still that’s true that’s true they’re they’re just scum but but scum in a good way you know oh yeah you know you know who needs some scum the Toronto mapol need some scum I think that somebody said Brad tree living calls it

Snot we need some snot we need some we need some absolute horses in there to piss some people off just nothing from that team but we talk about Toronto so I’m sorry I digress yeah no it’s sry yeah tuned up I mean Vancouver basically I thought B they they kind of showed

Toronto with they’re missing like dep scoring exactly r first period hog Landers winning battles garlands in front they they they were playing like it was literally if you’re a maple fan you’re watching the game like we don’t have any of this we don’t have third and fourth line scoring and

Getting inside guys and playing in the crease it was the and now they came back to make it 3-3 but that first period was eye opening I was watching it and I was I was like this is this is embarrassing they’re getting run out of the building

They didn’t they they had no reason not to be ready to play that game so so my feeling on Toronto at this point is I’m no longer going to be delusional I wow I think there’s probably a 10% chance they miss playoffs which would be catastrophic and there’d be a lot of

Noise and uh I probably wouldn’t be shocked if they moved on from Kee if that was the case I don’t think he should be fired mid-season I I I think they should let him ride out the rest of the year because there are a lot of flaws in the lineup as you just

Mentioned right now they need to get some goal tenders healthy and also get some saves uh they need the defensive Zone to be a lot better but it seems like the comments from inside the organization the tone has changed a little bit to kind of realizing like

This team is not built to win now and we’re looking at the future that’s there’s been a couple comments that came I saw Elliot say something about that too like they might know this isn’t it this year and and I think that for the first time in the contract the Taris one

Is is just really really hurting him isn’t it weird how it now this is crazy it’s not he could light it up in the next 10 games but sometimes it goes so quick when was that what is he how many goals is so so I think that uh in the

Last 29 games he has one five on five goal and that is just I mean where I like to to to judge guys is what they’re doing five on five right cuz like I mean there’s a lot of power plays now a lot of guys are are Cookie Monsters when it

Comes to the pp that’s why when I was backing up saying McKinnon’s in my opinion the best player going right now in the MVP he leading the league in Five On Five Points he’s going against the best players every night and then ending up on the right side of the puck and

With JT as far as like just watching him he obviously has slowly lost the speed so the boots aren’t there I think if you look at his numbers right now he’s got 40 points maybe a little bit over 40 points but that’s just aside from that

It’s not as dominant as it was and when you’re talking about $1.5 million you need a driving a line night in and night out and that’s just not happening so he’s got 34 points 34 I thought he was at at 40 and then like but you know you

Don’t want to just dog this legend of the game like they signed bzi and they signed DOI that I think have nine goals between them I mean Do’s making less than what berzi is and I actually find like some games like there was a few games ago where where doy line they like

Took over like they put him in a position to win so as far as what you’re paying DOI and what the production is yeah maybe it’s not maybe you’re a little off but to me berzi is the guy who stood out the most as far as just

Being way let down on the type of player the aggression uh the net front pest the the winning the wall battles the winning really any battles he just just doesn’t look comfortable in Toronto and maybe this is the type of guy where he comes alive after the All-Star break like some

Of these guys like especially with how how many seasons they’ve played they look at this as the doldrums of the Year where they’re like hey I’m going to turn it up when the money matters and right now I haven’t seen enough out of him so all right um who came out with the

Report about the trade that dubis had turned down for flurry oh yeah I get that down the M Andre section that was that was confirmed correct yeah oh yeah that was that was definitely from a reputable because the way people made it sound was like how did you not do that once you

Read it off like I don’t think I would have done it it was n and first rounders it’s like I don’t like no I didn’t people made it people made it sound like they turned down a deal to get McDavid or something Darren Dreger had that yeah

This was uh yeah Pur John Shannon he was on a podcast the other day the Leafs and Kyle dubas had a deal in plays to acquire Mark Andre flurry from Chicago back in 2022 uh but Brendan Shanahan vetoed it uh Darren Dreer reported the deal was uh

Brandon Hegel and flurry to the Bap LEF for Peter mzik Matthew NIS in a first round picks so hegel’s nice he’s nice he’s nice Chang he’s nice I mean it’s not simple as it sounds you know when you throw all the other [ __ ] in there I mean n’s a

Huge Prospect the first round pick I mean you can kind of see why Shanny might have beo that right now so there was also another rumor don’t know if this is true but of course we the rumor boys so we’re going to believe it but there was uh before marner’s no move

Clause kicked in that dubis was trying to move on from him that was the guy he was considering parting ways with now Shanny also vetoed that that’s the rumor I’m hearing so there was a lot of moves in which it seems like Shanny was trying

To say n n n let’s maybe look towards the future where considering they didn’t end up moving on from Marner I like the idea of not only keeping him naner and Matthews but n is really your only hope especially once JT comes off the books

Like this is a guy where when you see n show up for a night he’ll have one and two and he’ll be dominant we always talk about the consistency of these young guys that’s what he hasn’t been able to find yet so I would not have moved on

From n especially at the fact that you have them restricted coming up and then look what you ended up having to pay Hegel where the the time just wouldn’t have aligned yeah Tampa was more in win now mode and that made more sense so I’m actually happy that he nicked

That sometimes the best ones are R are the ones you don’t make [ __ ] absolutely this is an interesting stat I know Steve Dangle on his show the other day he said that Toronto had never won three playoff series in the year but they actually did back in 1932 the first last and only

Time the Toronto May beliefs won three playoff rounds in the season was 19 32 uh they played the pl Blackhawks in the first round they actually tied one1 it was a two- game series it was a total goals thing uh they play the Montreal Maroons they went 10 and one another

Total goal thing and the New York Rangers they won three nothing in the staning cup yeah that’s a legit three rounds right there that’s that’s that’s they have not won three rounds well exact well the the legit stat is they haven’t but but you know

I’m you know me I’m a [ __ ] I’m a [ __ ] Stater I got to keep it yeah you just want to take one more dump on my chest about my leaves well guys like I said not being delusional anymore I’m starting to see a little bit more clearly and I appreciate you guys

Bringing me back down to earth we can move on from the Leafs we try we try well I mean it kind of kicks off with this whole hockey Day in Canada theme talking about all these Canadian squads yeah one actually one last quick note one guy who is not going anywhere

Rob Blake said that uh Todd mclen will be his coach for the rest of the year uh the Kings been scuffling a bit lately only two regulation ones in the last 12 games but he said the answer is going to come from within our philosophy here for

The past three four years is on the structure the system system the design the buying of the players so nobody’s going anywhere is at least far as coaching I know Tal’s been struggling lately so one coach not going anywhere to mlen write that down and yeah Hockey

Night in Canada I’m sorry hockey Day in Canada Biz I love it man they had six teams pair off of course the Canadians were down here in Boston but the big game the Battle of Alberta we already mentioned Edmonton what game did you H

In on most that night well to to me it was obviously Vancouver uh in the Leafs and probably the biggest takeaway was bexa right he’s from Van play playing Vancouver love there and when he was in Victoria everybody’s coming up to him being like Oh you know is Vancouver

Going to win the cup Vancouver going to win the cup and it’s like buddy if I said to you before the season should we just roll what he said well I’ve been in the province for 11 days now and between Vancouver Victoria and Whistler and I’ve had this question asked for me hundreds

Of times already and will the Canucks win the Cup this year now listen this is what I say at the start of the season if I told you the Canucks were going to get the second Wild Card take it or leave it fans fans would probably have taken it

Right now they’ve overe exceeded expectations are at the top of the NHL regardless of the day and what I like to say is just pump the brakes pump the brakes ride the wave a lot of good things going on hockey is exciting it’s successful again in Vancouver the team’s

Obviously going to make the playoffs so maybe concentrate on getting out of that first round but it is not Stanley cuper bust in Vancouver this year it is a great year it’s a fun year and it’s fun to be in Vancouver again and there you have it I mean that’s that that’s pretty

Much should go out to anybody in today’s world is try to live in the moment enjoy what’s going on now because they’re playing with The house’s money this is a team that’s 100% Going to make playoffs they might end up winning the [ __ ] Pacific but then again you might be

Lined up against the Edmonton Oilers you you just don’t know it’s anyone’s game in the west as long as you got a chip in a chair as a Vancouver conu fan enjoy this awesome ride during the regular season and buckle up because it’s going to be a very very interesting playoff

And I think that with how quick things can turn around and just trying to strike in your moment I mean look at the year where St Louis we just talked about it they were completely out of it and they go on to win the cup apparently they’re kicking tires on Jake gensel

Okay this gensel thing is wild it’s wild it’s wild and and I really do see both sides of it I’ll give you my opinion at the end but to kind of go through what’s going on is gel’s a UFA gensel is a legitimate Point per game player he’s

Been a two-time 40 goal scorer he is absolutely a highend level offensive player in playoffs not yeah I say two time 40 goals score how about two time Cup winner and a guy who you just know what you’re going to get when coaches look at the roster they want to know

What they’re going to get and the guys that they love are the guys that they never question I’m going to get this night in and night out that’s gensel so all these Pittsburgh fans might be wondering well why would you trade this guy like what is going on you bring over

Eric Carlson you sign Graves you’re making all these moves to try to go on one more run who knows maybe three years of Crosby left although the way Crosby’s playing like he’s having one of the best seasons of mid-30s players has ever had in the NHL so I think fans are like wait

A minute no like sign him we need to still go on this run now the other side of it is okay his career numbers are very similar to William neander William neander just got 11 and a half he took a deal this is gensel he took a team-friendly deal five years ago and

He’s made a very very legit salary for what he produces this is his time to crush it and break the bank now in the end he could take another team friendly deal but I think he’s probably looking at like I’ve won I at least this is me

I’ve won two cups I keep producing I deserve like he he’s probably going to get 10 million bucks a year on the open market I don’t even know if he’s necessarily worth that but that’s how the numbers work that’s the numbers game you go to comparables so as a penguin

Fan or or or Kyle dubis it’s like well we can trade this guy we can get some legit assets and we can realize that we can’t give him this huge deal because what’s going to happen in 3 years from now you know what I’m saying like we we

Really need to think of the future you’re going to be having to hit the cap floor in 3 years when those guys are done the window’s going to close too the window’s going to close but that that’s the argument of like that’s why my thing is you should sign him because what what

Are you saying to Sydney Crosby this is his Winger this these guys are they’re two PS in a pod they read each other everywhere and Sid’s got this little little window left to try to win another one which seems very unlikely but you never know and all of a sudden you’re

Going to deal his guy at the deadline I don’t know I’m just like if you hadn’t gone all in and got Carlson and signed malcin and lat tang and done what they did okay yeah you’re moving on but they didn’t do that so why can you go against

What your theory was a couple months ago and change completely and get rid of your one of your top scorers I I I don’t agree with it and although Crosby’s butt chugging from the Fountain of Youth this year like let’s say Max let’s say Max he

Can do what he’s doing this year for two more years at a certain point guys there is going to be regression so you have to look at it like these next two years are my years to strike and why would you move on from if you move on from gensel

You’re giving in you you it mean you ain’t you ain’t doing [ __ ] there’s I I think there’s not a chicken dicks chance that they might not even make playoffs moving forward if that’s the case like this this is why this year so far and we

Talk to Army about it all the time this has been a very disappointing season in Jackal and Hy show for that team what a wasted effort from Crosby if they don’t end up sneaking in a playoff cuz right now it seems like they’re probably going

To look at a wild card but man now you got all these other teams who are outside looking in who like I mean [ __ ] Islanders are going to make a run you know that you know that the devils are going to improve I think there’s a high probability this

Pittsburgh team ends up missing playoffs right now there this is stats it’s 75% chance to make the playoffs like they should but if you trade gensel who knows he’s got he’s got a no move claw too yeah but but I mean like he if they’re

Not going to sign him why like why would he not agree to go somewhere for a run and try to light up the playoffs and get a bigger deal yeah then he would get to decide where he goes you do a sign in trade in Sanara and he’s only made 30

Million though with like you said like he didn’t sign a big deal before it was a uh five years uh $30 million deal six aav what were his point totals in the year they they both won the cup I I think he had 30 points in one of them so in

2016 2017 in the playoffs he had 21 points in 25 games um in he wasn’t on the team for the for the first one oh I thought he was there for the backto back he was only there for the second one of the backto back really yeah oh wow oh

[ __ ] I thought he was there for sure so I take back he’s a two-time Cup winner you should get four million year not so well not so well actually G he actually it’s a modified no trade clause not no move Clause so he could get traded but

He submits a 12 team uh list how many goals did he had during that one he must had 12 goals during that cup run though he was he did 13 goals 13 goals go yeah he was incredible he was huming but the Penguins the the the the

Saturday night in Vegas was so typical of this season they play this awesome game they’re up two nothing and in like five minutes in the third period they give up three goals they don’t even get a point lose 3-2 shout out to Brenan basson who got his first NHL goal which

Was the game winner real nice shot for Vegas that was a cool story to it’s probably kind of crazy to see a super agent in the game son not only make the NHL but be a first round pick right so Pat BR is is one of the biggest super

Agents in hockey he had a kid his kid was drafted by the golden knights played in his first NHL game got the winner in it and it just so happens that uh Sydney Crosby was his babysitter as they were growing up dude hilarious dude his

Babysitter dude he he beat him on the pl s [ __ ] broke his stick afterwards that was the funny funniest part of the whole [ __ ] thing man he beat his Patty tag sit in the post of the goal you know I mean we’ve said it for

Years on the show when he’s had you know a ton of Wingers they they’ve done good because you know they’re play with Crosby but Geno was never that I mean obviously he’s better with Crosby but he’s a dynamic [ __ ] Winger no matter who he’s playing with what what Pascal D

And kunet provided were guys who could get on the four check and then get him the puck back whereas I feel like gensel can do that but he’s all also has a little bit more touch Around the Net and he’s more highly skilled so to get it’s

Hard finding the right pieces to play with Crosby and that’s why I think it’s lunacy that they would consider consider trying to maybe move on from that where maybe if he doesn’t want to take A Team friendly deal it costs you an extra million million and a half bucks I agree

With you with I think an 8 Time 10 would be a perfect number and something that he would probably end up taking because you get that extra year but God damn it here we are yeah but if they’re out of it man you you could get something for

Him then he could just [ __ ] reup in the in the summertime you know UFA so is that even allowed anymore it’s it’s not already think they outlaw that uh I I no I think if he becomes a free agent you’re you can’t trade a guy back within

A year’s time like a year and a day but you can resign yeah yeah they could they can trade him wherever if if he wins a cup doesn’t win a cup whatever he can just [ __ ] sign a new deal with Pittsburgh this year yeah we got talk

About Jim Rutherford he got extended by Vancouver I mean this guy’s 74 years old last year Vancouver was was a laughing stock uh the bottom of the the [ __ ] standing front office was kind of a joke all of a sudden they bring in tet they

Made the move for ronic this team is at a complete 180 they’re basically maybe the favorite in the west right now how good of a turnaround has it been for Rutherford they got threee ition I guess they’re going to extend Alvin too but are they the favorite in the west piz

Right would you say right now well it goes back goes back to the luk conversation where where Rutherford he likes to powwow it like those coaches have a lot of say in what personnel they need in there and I think that talk was a big advocate for getting a good

Right-handed shot in there and I I view this ronic deal as a Devon Taves 2.0 to to find a guy that can can squeeze in there and all of a sudden like even he can provide offense like I don’t remember ronic game being that good obviously when you’re on the ice with

Quinn Hughes you’re going to be playing with a puck a lot more than than you aren’t and you’re not going to be getting grenades and D2D passes and everything’s going to be flatten on your tape and you’re going to be getting you know second assist till you’re blew in

The face but that was a major component uh completely reframed the structure of the whole team and yeah it’s it’s been the probably the the second best story in the NHL as opposed to the Winnipeg Jets from a surprise perspective because I think everybody believed in what

Vancouver’s top end Talent was it was how to get that second layer to buy in and we touched on it earlier also um hoglander double digits and goals mcka double digits and goals Dakota Joshua double digits and goals uh laferty double digits and goals Garland’s got I think eight or

Nine like buddy I’m telling you I think that the Vancouver conuts and I said it after the zadorov trade which I’m [ __ ] wishing that Toronto would have picked that guy up just like I who was it the other game somebody tried to [ __ ] around with one of his teammates and he

Ended up ragn dolling him like that’s what every team needs is a fifth defenseman being that guy on a team and they got a few of them I think they got Ian Cole as well right so they got a bunch of mutants back there Tyler Meyers

So from top to bottom man I think that they’re one piece away if they end up getting gel and they maybe get rid of kusmanov kov is it think it’s kko I don’t know but that’s another that that if you told me that the Canucks were

Going to be this good after seeing kusko light it up last year and that he’d be like healthy scratched doing nothing i’ say you’re crazy so somehow talk has figured out a way to not only kind of show this guy that like I don’t love the

Way you play but get the team to play this well with him doing nothing like I thought if they were going to bounce back I’m like oh he might he might pop off for 45 goals this guy and and there’s just a disconnect there that

Happens a lot new coach comes in guy has a lot of success and maybe he doesn’t love how you play and and things change quick so kind of feel bad for the kid in a sense but I think you’re going to see him moved uh all right boys another guy

We got to talk about uh Jacob chran looks like he’s already sensed out uh from our internet buddy leim Maran uh he said per the streets it seems the hometown novelty has mostly worn off of Jacob chran in his Camp in Ottawa hearing his interest in being a s long

Term has diminished greatly uh very unlikely that he extends far more likely that he’s dealt before coming UFA uh the shine came off quickly apparently he’s got 26 points in 41 games this year still got one more one more year left on this deal at 4.6 mil pretty good price

He’s got a modified no trade CLA so he can 10 teams he does not want to go to uh what you see him get dealt before this deadline uh I mean obviously no hurry to get rid of him are we looking at a potential side of trade what do you

Think’s gonna Happ I’m gonna hop in here I just I mean obviously Shabbat and Sanderson are the one and two and I don’t think they’re going to move on from those guys so sometimes you know if if Chan believes that he should get that first pairing type minutes he not only

Wants them but if he if he gets them then you can sign that bigger term deal where if you’re going to get stuck in that three roll and maybe he’s not happy and this is all like and they’re both lefties yeah I’m just like speculating here at this point I haven’t talked to

Him but you know and maybe things haven’t necessarily worked out the best for him maybe from a play perspective I know the other night he got walked I think it was on the game winner too in overtime but it’s like the bo Byam thing like I think he wants to a top pairing

Defenseman like maybe it’s time to go somewhere else get that type of ice time in the last year your of your deal and and then you get your payday and you’re a lot happier in your situation but as you know the grass isn’t always greener you got [ __ ] the coyotes playing as

Good as they’ve been playing and otta was a [ __ ] dumpster fire I I mean this is probably the most disappointing team this season based on expectations so I don’t know how it’s working out there and and if he’s just not happy but I think from looking at who’s ahead of

Him on the depth chart and who ain’t going anywhere that’s probably why it makes sense as to why he doesn’t see a future there long term you can’t I don’t think you’re paying a third defenseman six6 and A5 million dollars a year right the reason that I think he will get traded is

Because with him having another year it’s two playoff runs right so you’re dealing for them in Ottawa like why wouldn’t they if they know they’re not going to resign them even though maybe they’d want to but say he’s already kind of made it clear I’m not going to resign

He’d be able to resign this summer you as a team going to get him it’s not just this year you got him for next year that makes a huge difference in terms of the assets that you’re coming that you’re getting back like a haggle situation exactly so like you’re

Getting Chan for two year two playoff runs and so you’d give up a little bit more then Ottawa looks at it like all right well we could grab a little bit more in return maybe a little better Prospect or a higher pick so it makes

Sense to me that they would move on from him and and I guess with 10 teams he won’t go to I I don’t know the teams but you still can work with somebody because somebody who could add who wants a defenseman and could add him they’d be

Willing to pay this this spring I think rumor boys is LA’s kicking tires on them and they are a team that could definitely use a defenseman low cap hit don’t know what they have to move on from but they have so many young guys up front and they got a deep Prospect pool

So I’m sure there’s something there that Ottawa would like to get their hands on yeah the s’s also welcome back at Shane Pinto after that [ __ ] ridiculous 41 game suspension that he got he signed a one-year deal for the league minum Elliot Freeman said he’s going to have a

Long term deal in play soon obviously the the way things played out this year was just easier to give him this deal right now well and you don’t get ching ching very much too cuz he’s going to have to pay that 41 game fine that’s a

That’s a kick in the dick wait what do you mean oh because you got suspended for half the season so you have to Forfeit that salary so if he would have ended up signing like let’s say a three-year bridge at 3 million a year you’re getting dinged a million and a

Half as opposed to just getting oh yeah if he’ signed yeah so that helped I’m sorry B Ian that so that this helped them immensely though having League minutum though right yeah I mean it helped him but keep in mind he missed the half a season and I don’t know much

How much leverage now he has on that like in the summertime when you’re negotiating after the season you had last year you feel like your Leverage is there but knowing he’s going to miss a half a season you now you’re kind of like hey buddy here’s a here’s a

Two-year Bridge deal at two million take it or leave it or or or kick rocks yeah but I think I know what you’re saying already say this summer he signed a four-year deal for three and a half a year it’s like that that would have

Costed him way more so I know what you mean yeah he’s only getting fined on that contract and you know I mean like I said before we defend the guy we don’t know exactly what happened but I PTO par PTO parlay baby parlay I think we were saying the same thing

Re yeah fair enough what else do BU all right a couple more notes here before we bring it over to our interview by the way guys we haven’t even mentioned it yet uh you guys talked to the bus with the boys down in Florida uh let the uh

Audience know who who the bus one of the boys are for those who aren’t familiar uh two absolute beasts it’s Will Compton and Taylor Lewan um both played in the NFL for a long time Taylor was a really high pick and I think an all pro if not

One of the top offensive linemen in the league will was just one of those mck and grind locker room guys who played for a long time we talked about him last week but they’re lucky enough or we’re lucky enough that they came to or Orlando sat down with those guys their

Their brand and their entire show is popping off and and I think that everyone should really should really give it a listen because we’ve gotten away sometimes of just NHL stuff and maybe not even Sports people we interviewed Ian bag the comedian and I don’t know if we told every we

Interviewed Justin Thomas recently there was a great sit down with him for over an hour so we’ve got some different things going but these guys go in depth with the NFL lifestyle and how crazy and different it is from what dis Biz and I dealt with in the NHL so hopefully

Everyone enjoys and we get the tea on on all this football stuff like I don’t know in-depth analysis on football and like you know who’s banging who and you know who’s what kind of crazy stories are get going on so we’re going to sit down with them it’s going to be a good

Time and as kind of touch on same Dynamic where like you know you have Whit with the CR credibility who who made all the money and then Will’s kind of like the grinder guy who bounced around from Team to team he actually I think will almost hit his 10th year with

The Falcons and they called and he was going to sign to play his 10th year in the NFL but because he was associated with bar stool and then Penn was still around at the time and there was gambling involved they wouldn’t allow him to sign the contract so since then

And even before that he’s been grinding but they grind hard on the media side and now since then also Taylor’s retired so they’re a juggernaut in the football podcast World they do a tons of content check them out and probably one of the most viral things this season was when

Will did the the what was the breakdown of like they went the the black verse whites black verse whites in the NFL you know it’s I feel like kind of cringey even saying the words but you know it got some major major traction online so

It’ be a good good sit down with them would you drink again if they offered you guys a uh into the Beer Olympics did you go do that I would do that this summer yeah when I’m when I’m back on the sauce I’m going to see if I can go

The whole hockey season this year I was going to see if I can go a full year but you know I got to have a little bit of fun in the offseason you got to win some sandbaggers and got to win some Baggers I think my a lot of people online are

Saying my swing’s a lot better when I got the liquid glaze going on so we’re going to find out tomorrow cuz we’re playing them in a sandbagger here in Orlando all right let’s go boys let’s send it over to the bus with the boys boys all all right before we go any

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Guaranteed do we just start it right now I think we just start off off with this [ __ ] Magnolia effect whatever beens is it Magnolia or Mandela I I think this could go this could go down as as like a video like four idiots try to talk about the Mandela effect because the

Description so far makes no sense to me I think it makes perfect sense can you pull up can you pull up one of the mandelas I know Fruit of Loom is one of them so one of the things you said is is it’s something that would happen in time

That say we all we all witnessed it 10 years ago and they’ve scrubbed it from the internet and therefore we we thought and remembered we saw it but we didn’t hand me that bottle that’s what Taylor was saying nobody has pict bottle so it’s like if pink Whitney for the

Longest time was like the brand and everybody drank pink P Whitney then 20 years later you be like hey remember pink Whitney yeah they actually had the jersey number 20 on there or the jersey number 19 but then you look back and and everything says 20 instead of 19 and

You’re like no [ __ ] way I swear to God but why would the company have changed it I don’t know why you know why 911 happen what’s the deal that took a right turn so why is the sky blue Canadian why are boobs this seems easy to prove to me

Though I’m Canadian I can’t even say 911 on this podcast no you can’t dude yeah yeah I feel like he’s kind of Canadian yeah why are you always in Colona all the time my wife’s from Colona from British Columbia he hates telling me he’s like I can’t like colog is unreal

He said only in the summer I mean this guy doesn’t want to be anywhere near snow did you meet her at University of Michigan no I met her in leapers Fork Tennessee we got like we got married in like five weeks no we got engaged in

Five weeks married in two months had a kid was pregnant in six months so what you just you met her and you just instantly knew she was the one yeah I was dating this girl before and we like actually just moved in together like 2 days into moving in together and then I

Met her and 3 days later I break up with the girl have her parents like come get her stuff we flew to La for six days then drove to San Francisco drove down to Arizona she went back to Nashville and then a week later she’s like I miss

You I was like I miss you too but if you come back you’re not leaving she comes back and I had a ring waiting for her holy [ __ ] were you guys teammates at this time no no this was when you playing for the tit but this is a Taylor

Move now we fell in love fairly quickly too yeah I’m the kind of guy like when we’re boys like I’m going to FaceTime you every day I’m going to text you all the time I’m gonna you’re going to be like I feel like I’m dating this dude

And I need to end it it’s tough I like literally when I met will I think the second day I fa timed you you’re red light in your hotel yeah yeah yeah that’s right like an you guys do you guys like chirp each other and stuff on

The show or are you more just like lovers on the show oh you don’t watch I watch some but I’m very busy you know we see the clips all the clips you you guys [ __ ] on each other or cuz we kind of go at it sometimes but that’s a

Hockey style you seem a little bit more sensitive are you the sensitive one I’m I would say I’m definitely more the sensitive oh yeah so you got to be careful but we’ll just he holds vendettas bro like we had a whole thing would you say Taylor’s the more

Sensitive one I mean it’s okay we got get a m oh this is something you’ve already thought about I can tell you are you are you the therapist I have to go public with this now also can get emotional no think that yeah there are

Moments I would say if you were you were to look at our group like will and JP are probably the least sensitive then Jack say hang on bro you are oh you saying me more than Jack no I think hey we’re like therapist for this is you’re

Talking about oh oh yeah least least I’m sorry I was going the wrong this is this is J Smith red table for your podcast right now we’re getting [ __ ] deep are you guys cheating on each other I would never dude I’m loyal I’m a loyal bro

When was the first time you met when when you became teammates on the Titans yeah when we signed or when I signed with Cincinnati okay what’s the inside joke joke not inside J no joke that’s just he just [ __ ] up from yeah we smoked a joint before this so we could have a

Wacky intro to this pod he said s with Cincinnati Tennessee what made you say Cincinnati is the worst going on in Cincinnati don’t know no whenever I sign with Tennessee that year I mean yeah so so so no I just feel so uncomfortable they’re like ask us about our love story

You know what I mean hey maybe he is the sensitive one how did it come up that you were the sensitive one yeah about a said you guys chirp each other boom all of a sudden you’re like I’m sensitive but no no no I hold the vendana I assumed he was sensitive

Because he fell in love and weeks he engaged that’s how that took that turn feel Cincinnati I feel like I’m like telling a story I’m like you know it took three practices I caught his eye by telling a funny joke he invited me over the next day and we’ve been boys ever

Since now he uh tell the story will tell how we met uh over I mean we met we met in the locker room when I first got there and I just came in for the day and like hey um will there was so how many

Teams have you been on cuz you were the journeyman he was like the first round stud what would you make close to 100 million in your career yeah it’s not worth around 90 but it’s not worth talking about just shy eh sh we’re going to set up a go

Fundme for uh itough for Taylor here but but you were the journeyman so you started in what Washington yeah I started in Washington I was undrafted practice squad for a year in Washington and then was there for a total of five years so so when when you’re undrafted

Like right away did you know you’d get a try out somewhere or were you kind of like man I might be done playing football no like once the draft ended like I knew I would be in like that late round preferred free agent category so right when the draft ends like your

Agent’s already on the phone with you hey there’s three teams calling in my situation it was there’s three teams just calling it was the Bucks the Bears and the Redskins and then he was like you know where would you like to play I was thinking Tampa Bay with Levante and

Then I thought Chicago would be cool because it was closer than Washington and then he calls me back and he’s like you’re sign with the Washington Redskins you don’t really have a say I didn’t have a say at the end of theine like that no I was like this is where I like

To go and then he’s like all right they go on the phone it goes back and forth you’re going to Washington so you you’d almost rather not be drafted at the end yeah I mean that yeah I would say if you’re not drafted the because if you go

If you’re anywhere from that uh like fifth to seventh round range you still have the same possibility of getting cut as quickly as like a guy who’s undrafted like you just don’t have his you just don’t have his long of a leash so I would say if you get selected to your

Destination versus getting idea of where you want to kind of choose um then you’re kind of like almost stuck there you’re kind of stuck in that situation whereas in my if you’re undrafted versus being a late round guy then you kind of have a selection of where you might want

To go or where it might be favorable because those are the teams who are calling the one that they just need to fill out some depth somewhere so then you end up like after your five years you end up in with the Tennessee Titans and you guys meet it’s it’s instant love

And then did you guys could you guys talk about maybe one day starting a podcast together was that even a thing then cuz when he mentioned it to me first I didn’t even know what the [ __ ] a podcast was yeah when we uh when we first met like we would have like these

Breakfast clubs with it’d be us two and a guy named Mike campanero and we like talk about like Joe Rogan’s podcast the fighter and the kid that’s like yeah Ben Greenfield like a bunch of biohacking stuff and then literally like the Titans just started a podcast called OTP

Official Titans podcast and I had to go on it but I just brought will with me as like just because I wanted my plus one I guess support animal just going around don’t him don’t pet him don’t even look at it they let you on planes with him

Too oh nice and then like after after the season uh will was like I really want to do a podcast like let’s do it CU he’s been wanting to do it for a while and I was like yeah I’ll go and then like literally two days later I got on a

Plane to California to go train for three months and then he called me like two months later and he’s like hey do you want to do this or do you not want to do this like what’s the deal and uh then I came back and we just started it

Up like probably what a month later like right in May yeah cuz you got in right there in early April or o April right in time for OTAs so we still couldn’t like get together until there was like kind of like a free weekend we’re looking

Around for studios and all that I was just going to quickly bring up though like the name is important and I think the name has an unreal ring to it how did that come about and then you guys had that bus like The Branding aspect of

It who who thought of all that there was like this local gal in Chicago who is throwing ideas about branding like helping like a little Boutique branding agent gency versus paying for somebody like you know that’s bigger um when we had the bus we’re going around with just

Different ideas and some of them involveed the boys and there’s part of us that didn’t want to bring in the for the boys Mantra just because we had grew it in the locker room with the Titans and so you kind of feel like it’s you and your teammates thing and now they

Were going out here to like yeah yeah cuz it came became like a thing in 2018 with the Titans like just being like the boy like you’d walk into the cold tubs the boy and then the boy after a big win the boys and the bus like we kind of just

Fell into like we had this other production crew that we were like starting with and we were talking about like Studio space and one of them was like hey there’s a bus outside and I was late to the meeting well because uh at the initially it was going to be called

The Den podcast working title Taylor always said no the den the den the the den because I have a fascination with Wolves but Taylor’s like Taylor would always say working title that’s is that why you have a wolf tattooed on you tip of the C to will just

My oh yeah just that that’s for will they had this bus dude and Will was there first he’s like when Taylor sees this he’s going to love it and sure enough I pulled up I was like I even if it doesn’t work I’ll just keep the bus

Buy keep my back million [ __ ] here take it cost me let bring that let’s not bring that up be easy easy like 97 but yeah when you were when it was when it began you’re still playing right yeah we are both still playing oh okay so but at

One point when you retired and you were you were you were into it right when you got screwed on year 10 we got to go into that gell [ __ ] you over but when you came on and he’s done playing and you’re still playing it’s got to be like kind

Of hard right because you’re you’re still busy as [ __ ] so you had to kind of carry the load a little bit would you say yeah yeah will’ll definitely carry the load for sure on a whole bunch of things like setting up the whole thing like being kind of being the brains

Behind it but when we started like our deal it was like I’ll just come and make sure that I’m there for the most of the podcast I’ll do it blah blah blah and we like we’re in this phase of Cu you guys know how it is when you’re playing your

Sport you’re so like solely focused on it and you never do something like this theide I was still playing and there’s no way I could come on and let it fly even the same lost I’ve been Dash three games in a row to come slinging it you

Know wait that happened yeah like you’re not comfortable like I’m going I got to sling it around about the NFL and our team I played like [ __ ] we lost we played Terri like if I like gave up a sack we lost the game or whatever and

Then go in the pond like hey how we doing guys the how big Derrick Henry’s dick is guys you guys me peek in the shower bro even even the first year we thought about because I was just doing like our very first year um Taylor that’s when the PED

Thing happened so he was suspended the first part of the Year oh no I uh what else what else was going on then what were you on by I was like when uh we know the Titans are also four and two uh yeah yeah yeah what were you doing

Viagra no I didn’t I I took a ends for a month in college it never worked I like I would last way longer but like my piece never never got bigger yeah me and my that’s half the battle for me I got to be do the coun the numbers and the

Sheep In My Head the cold shower just to get out of two minutes yeah so we were uh they were losing I didn’t even hear what he said yeah just quietly to myself I’m never lasted long like in the corner that’s a big issue on the spit and chicklets

Podcast hug the big one it’s like hockey 45 seconds and off I was hard quick shift thing I uh the thing I failed for was called austring and it was like it’s like kind of all over it was all over the UFC at one point like a bunch of college kids

Failed for it so I did this lie detector test big cat loves talking about it because I had like this you know PSA thing on the bus and I was like I start crying on it and now like being five six years you’re moved it’s like you’re a

[ __ ] idiot but at the time oh my why you’re little sensitive I’m I no no no cuz people online will label you a cheater forever it’s a it’s a it’s a Scarlet Letter I would have been I would have cried about it too didn’t do

Anything I was on I was on Jack 3D for a bit which was a band stop yes bro and I had no idea and Yan’s just like yo you know that’s you know that’s Bann right I’m like walking around all jacked in Camp and I’m like really and he’s like

And and I think I took a piss test and somehow beat it at that point cuz you always take one a training camp but to go back to what you’re saying if I would have ever tested positive like you you the the the online scrutiny is brutal

I’m sure you were getting dude it’s terrible and the thing like going back like when you fail your ped like there’s like no way to get out of it there’s only been one guy in the NFL history to get out of a ped and he like went to

Mexico and had like 14 cheeseburgers and then there was like a tainted substance alert about the meat in Mexico in this specific spot and he had receipts like that’s the only way he got out of it sounds a like a hell a madeup story hell of a madeup story that just panned out

But like with uh with supplements like nothing’s regulated by the FDA so anything you take it could St in the label like it’s got only X Y and Z but they can put whatever they want in it and once they do that like uh you can

Get popped and then you go test like the next batch and it’s just a whole Clean Slate all of a sudden okay so it was like a whole bunch of N and there’s certifications like you have to do NSF certified products but even NSF if it

Were to pop or dust or anything like that then the NSF isn’t like liable for you to like be in trouble from the NFL yeah and the shitty thing was is like when I when I popped for austerine it was like a trace amount which means you

Got no benefit and I think if I’m going to fail for a p00 that’s like the dusting thing is like as long as something like any can gets like dusted with anything you just get popped on any level you do it is like that stamp because it does it right

It like ruin you’re like in in our minds it’s like yo my reputation is on the line and you’re going say like oh you’re just G to label me a cheater uh how many players in the NFL do you think are cheating right now with substance not as

Many as when we were younger okay dude my rookie year we played the Ravens and uh I went to like take a [ __ ] before the game and I pulled the toilet paper in the thing and a syringe fell out and I I was like oh this is nuts so you’re

Saying what that’s an away team or a home team do I think it might have been our team I don’t know like a syring dude I think I think there’s not as much as people think but more than we know yeah for sure you know what I mean like think

If you just wanted to like when just say like Bobo like just use the example of all like how they were working with the T he is not going to like that getting called out no no no no he’s like this IV he’s got uh this company a but

He started by just like working with the working with players like working with us then he you know he grew but think back then like if we just kept Bobo like just to ourselves and nobody else knew about it like you could be doing whatever yeah as long as it like stayed

Out of your system oh because he’s yeah it’s getting out because he’s yeah cuz you’re just kind of like you know you’re just like working the game cuz there are things out there that can like get in and out of your system like 12 hours who

Was one guy you guys knew was on it and and you had to go up against them every game and you’re like [ __ ] this guy’s just like no no there was always Roger saff for me Roger was like that there was always rumors about JJ Watt

Like I don’t want to turn I don’t want to say anything about his name but like guys would be like there’s no way there’s no way strong so this so that like torn rotator cuff torn bicep torn tricep and it comes back like eight weeks later Ray Lewis is a guy that had

Like the deer Dear Antler I think he got I think that like that’s document that he was doing that yeah just go back just go back J this is allegedly JJ this is allegedly I never to like let me we’re we’re going to get a juicy story here

Hey oh yeah yeah yeah no I was going to say obviously he was that ridiculously talented and jacked and you had to think something it’s not even like it’s a bad thing you’re like this dude has to be doing something has to be do I could see

How that at least would be a question who’s the dude the black dude lives in Arizona that played for the Steelers James Harrison James Harrison bro that guy that guy rolling B Instagram videos how are you six plates oh that’s my phone he was smashing people’s heads in

In Those Old Steelers of games I was on the Penguins when he was there he was a legit killer so so are you saying that he was for sure doing it he just you just no we’re talking about you just see guys and you’re like holy [ __ ] I think

So cuz like back so you’re on the record saying it okay hey back in 2012 like before 2012 I guess I didn’t test certain levels of like HGH whatever it in 2012 so if you were taking something and then they tested you your Baseline would be super high

And as long as you didn’t fluctuate higher or lower then you’d be cool so it’s all like I don’t know it’s a game within a game with chick’s going to be starting beef with like xent Fellers who are still on the juice oh God that’s not good that’s not good that’s not good

Imagine me you and Ray Lewis being like what’s up Ray can you uh dress with the bus with the boys oh yeah but it’s an amazing brand you guys have built I had a blast I went down on the bus you were you no I got interviewed at your your parents place

In in Scottdale yeah down in Arizona yeah yeah so we’ve we’ve each been on your podcast and you hadn’t been on your there there’s a million questions I want to ask you guys about as far as NFL and I know I know and then like I’m interested with you CU then you’re the

High pick what’ you get drafted I was drafted 11th overall 11th overall so going in and actually tell tell um he mentioned the story before about when you picked up offensive line in high school like all of a sudden it was late yeah so I like played one year of

Football like when I was like eight and I was a corner I was like the I was like a fast white kid for whatever reason hell yeah and then uh on his on his white team secondary I probably would have been like that I was po child was

Always playing in the grass and stuff like that and I just would haot kids every once in a while but I didn’t play again till my freshman year of high school and I got in a bunch of legal trouble and my dad’s like you need to play football so I went and played

Football and I was like this nose tackle like hardworking gritty hard-nosed white guy that’s exactly what I was like limited athletically and then my junior going to my senior year I transferred I went from C Creek Arizona to Scottdale Arizona went to Chappell high school and

They made me play offensive tackle and I played like two games and I put like sent just my two games of raw film and like sent it out and like I got 20 offers and two weeks three weeks became an all- American it was like the greatest Ascension of all time it was

Insane what uh what did you get in trouble for uh assault theft battery and robbery that’s it I love that’s what I God damn I thought you come with something heavier so you bring the street cred to the podcast as well for bus what the

[ __ ] do you do well I I got a minor possession you got I mean you were hanging out in Cave Creek not downtown Phoenix I know dude but here’s the thing is like I say assault theft batter and robbery and I kind of sound badass

Really what it was is I got I took some kids iPod and then he asked for it back and I hit him and those are just the charges like it’s like the most [ __ ] made thing ever after holy Christ yeah got probation for a year yeah and that

That was it that’s like when you lie on your resume yeah yeah yeah I just did I mean everybody think I was way cooler than I was and then had to come have my come to J did they send that in with the game film yeah oh yeah by the way he’s

Got a criminal record you’re going to love this he’s got a 1.6 GPA he’s [ __ ] right where you want to be great student athlete a perfect offensive lineman now you got the origin story out here you can try and really beef that up next time yeah I got to get something

Going like why the assault matter or you just come up with some wild sh like the towns was in that movie he’s a big role the chef so how is he always getting these acting roles he was in the town yeah well he was in the town yeah he was

In the the scene with what’s her name uh Blake Lively and sharing the screen with Blake Lively can you believe that l or was he just chilling no no no you just saw the back of his head but he crushed it and no you saw his forehead but he

Actually now he just finished going to a premiere of a movie he’s he’s in so it’s like he’s he’s becoming a full-blown thespian does he does he actually he has lines like he or this one he does this one he does and he’s not acting as

Himself so it’s actually a role so he’s he’s diving in this it’s good that’s so badass it’s good awesome I think he should do acting I think he could crush it yeah May yeah maybe eventually what would you what would you like if you had

To pick a role that you would just love to do what would it be uh Johnny s maybe like I don’t know maybe like a yeah like a psycho like get the snap in it like I like uh Raging Bull I’m a big dairo guy okay like kind of like that hell yeah

Yeah I like that would you want to go like uh like actual crazy guy or like something like the Joker where it’s like I think if I ever wanted to get serious about it I would want to try my balls off in like a um an improv class cuz I

Respect people who go and like sharpen their tools like I’ve never done that I think I’d be nervous as [ __ ] going into an improv class and especially because I like I smoke a lot and you know I probably like my anxiety would go through the roof kind of like when we

Started this podcast but it settled down nice and I’m having landed a little bit good I got nervous before we smok I was like God I’m going to be so paranoid on this podcast like I we’ve done like silly commercials I was trying to think of what I want to say so

I didn’t hear what you said and if it was that’s all right that’s okay that’s okay prob was not funny I we’ve done commercials before where I like cha the challenge I like the like the anxiety Spike before you go into it the unknown and it’s different like I love doing the

Podcast but it becomes a little bit monotonous monotonous monotonous I like how you say it I like how you would you ever like would would what would you divulge into that’s different than what you do normal life different day like do you ever act acting no no

You didn’t like the question just did I Jam you up we acted in the commercial with them that’s right that’s right yeah yeah I took down the ra yeah what would you do I mean we’d act yeah I think acting matter of fact matter of fact M

Fact there’s a script written up for us right now yeah was it Rising yeah stealing the Tennessee Titan slogan that’s the movie line yeah the boys yeah what is the what is the scpt what is the script uh it’s called badman Rising this guy named Cameron duddy he’s like the is

He think he’s the basis for Kings of Leon yeah or not Kings of Leon uh Midland Midland Midland and they’re like a country band guys are incredible if you guys haven’t heard him but he apparently him and his brother they’re writers and they love the podcast so

Like one day he hits us up and he comes with a 90 page script about like it’s like uh Blue Mountain State meets Friday 13th yeah well you do that guys are getting murdered analogy I don’t think don’t know no spoilers no spoilers yeah no spoilers I I don’t have you read the

Whole script I’ve read half the script it’s actually good and the whole idea is that like we’re like a D3 we’re a couple of D3 guys and our coach has a heart attack CU I lose it on somebody hey hey hey well I’m just giving the idea starting we’ve never we’ve never

Won a football game and so like somehow I become we become the coaches and we we like trick our way into this Elite Camp to coach these other kids and there’s murders that start happening at the camp and it’s a [ __ ] become wolves oh [ __ ] wa wait wolves or vampires hey just

Relax now you’re giving it away [ __ ] you was painting the I was just G like a little elevator no that was the trailer watching right now dude we’re [ __ ] straight to DVD but I think that would be fun for the literally the way you just put it sounded spoton like the

Anxiety part like one to lead into it cuz you’re like oh it’s like a challenge think of the think of the idea of of I I keep cutting you off but think of the idea of like getting a script being like you’re playing X Y andz someone totally

Different from your personality and then truly getting people that watch you on the screen to believe that you are I know that’s yeah that’s like the coolest thing in the world to and that you like worked at it yeah you like worked at you’re like what was your process there

And you have to like figure out whatever your processes to get into that character yeah we’re getting deep and I everything you said is bang on I love it you do you do a little bit you like a we do those pink yeah when yeah when when I

Make them no I I’m not very comfortable at at at doing that stuff like I would much rather I remember when the the podcast we first started doing video I’m like I could just be like a podcast and never like I’m cool with never being on

Video but I I you know you end up realizing that it’s so important now the YouTube and everything we do with it but I I would never want to act ever I do respect the hell out of it I know I couldn’t do it the memorization all that

I just I also wouldn’t be good at it do you think is it because it scare you do you yeah does it scare me it’s got to be yeah it scares me like this would be horrendous and I’d get ripped on by all my buddies like want to do it sometimes

You land on your face too but I don’t want a few things I put out that I didn’t want to put out I have no desire whatsoever to do that because I just couldn’t handle it so yeah I’m scared of [ __ ] you called it do do you still get

Nervous in front of cameras no not in front of cameras but like we do live shows have you guys done any of those yeah those are a start so I think we’ll be doing our fourth yeah in a week I get the most anxiety doing that’s some that’s some anxiety when I

Got the other takes when I’m like one take two take oh we can go up to 100 till I get this thing I can handle it but the live shows those will get your heart pumping I’m the opposite when there’s like a we have like the Chevy

Commercial we did and they had lines for us we I think I had like four lines and I kept [ __ ] up like the second to last line last line I was right after you I was like he doesn’t know how to read dude oh bro I I literally I’m the

Worst reader like I like uh public speaking I have no issue with really reading out loud in front of if you gave me a Dr Seuss book right now I’d [ __ ] my pants hey hey hey you’ve done well the last better but the nerves would still be there last

Month with the ad read you’ve been smooth yeah I’ve been reading so they took know they took ad reads away from me cuz I would sit there sometimes and I’d go 20 20 times and I’d be like [ __ ] [ __ ] cuz like the words jump out at me I

Think it it’s like some people call it dyslexic I don’t know I just have a hard time reading so we heard about how you started like it was kind of like a worldwind like you you weren’t really a player like how was your upbringing in in football was it right from from like

Timbits or Tikes and yeah I mean tackle football started like fourth grade I like I’ve been obsessed with football for as long as the LA the first thing I can remember like loving was my dad was into the Cowboys in the 90s who wasn’t and they had win the superow they were

Winning the Super Bowl like in like 95 or 96 97 and uh they’d win and my dad would order the V HS stuff that they would call that you’d call on the TV like celebrate the year with the Cowboys with the like the documentary gear yeah so that would come

And we would watch that stuff together so I was just like obsessed with football at like an early age where he’d talk about Walter pton we’ play in the backyard we do all this stuff so I was always gung-ho on wanting to like play football my entire life so going from

Growing up there and then going to Nebraska getting to go to Nebraska was big time and then you go through Nebraska and you’re getting close to get into the NFL so everything that you’ve ever wanted you’re like is happening right you want to be drafted so bad um

Were you were you scholarship player yeah full ride yeah oh football’s all full ride across the board everybody oh really unless unless walk you don’t get an offer oh it’s oh you you oh you can give like certain years in hockey as opposed to like full ride or nothing

Right in like baseball you got to split scholarships so wow that’s crazy I didn’t know that but but you you were expected to like like do big things there like you were fired up like you were obviously a sick recruit going to Nebraska it’s a big deal and then to to

Be able to get a scholarship telling your parents that like how good did that feel I mean oh amazing dude it’s like the best cuz that’s all you want is to like earn a scholarship or you know when you’re a young athlete you’re like you know your parents are like oh if we

Could just get paid for yeah like if another parent was like hey he’s pretty good like oh maybe he’ll you know that line of getting your getting School paid for so when they started happening you’re just fired up cuz you’re like yo I’m going to go to this this level that

You’ve already like dreamed about and fantasized about like playing all the NCAA before you go to college and just like loving certain teams and following them along and you start to get scholarships by these teams like I remember when I got Notre Dame finally at the very end but Notre Dame uh going

To Catholic school until like fourth grade our principal would always she’d go to one game a year and she’d bring back memorabilia for the entire class so you just like I love Notre Dame growing up so all of these fantasies about wanting to play you’re finally like a

Accomplishing those things by going to college do you guys do you guys do the the trips beforehand like hockey guys they go there and like the boys think about official visit oh yeah I feel like you probably got better stories than me no I just get drunk with like whoever

Was hting how many how many different visits did you go on you said you got 20 offers yeah I only went on two I went to I went to Minnesota cuz my dad went to Minnesota and I literally almost committed he play football yeah he walked on there he’s got the whole you

Know if I didn’t break my leg I’d be you know he’s got that story he’s he would have been the man but uh I went to I went to Minnesota and then I went to Michigan and I was like yeah like Jake long was uh the first overall pick 2008

Which was like my junior year and uh my dad’s like yo this guy you could be like him wear 77 like him blah blah so I was like yo I’ll just go to Michigan they just put dudes out because once I got an offer my first offer was Utah State and

I was like uh I remember the coach came out to me and he was like hey we we love to have you blah blah blah and I was like oh thanks man appreciate it my coach is like hey what do you think because I didn’t know they offered me I

Was like yeah it was awesome man hopefully I can get offered like oh no they offered you and I knew I was like right then there I was like oh I’m going to the NFL like that’s no [ __ ] it’s like one of those things where I feel like

When you’re 15 16 you don’t like you don’t know the path you’re going to go on and you also don’t really care at that time like you like I have all the time in the world truly like when I got offered by Utah State it was like the

Most clear path like it was like so obvious to me I was like oh I’m going to go to the NFL like that is it I went I got to college and they’re like what do you want to do after college I was like I’m going to the NFL and they’re like

Well you know statistic I was like no no no put me in the easiest classes I’m going to the NFL awesome though it was aw and then it was all it was all happening like everything was happening everything you thought of oh yeah it literally besides the win loss category

At Michigan like it went exactly as planned it was nuts when when you did you start as a freshman I red shirted and then I started my reg freshman year but I started four years yeah so that’s like all a sudden Big 10 football like and you’re just in the mix getting

Better and better and then by the time you’re junior year or sophomore year Pro would you finish four years I finished four I should have left after my junior year would have got drafted higher probably no [ __ ] yeah cuz I was uh it’s all like obviously there’s a talent

Level but also it’s like the projection was the same however like the needs based on the the first five team six teams were like the first three three the first four picks were offensive linemen so to me I was like if I CU I would have I tested really well at the

Combine I knew that was like my bread and butter so I already had the film and I knew I was going to like show things that people haven’t seen yet so I thought oh I would have I would have skyrocketed but you know how it is like

When you’re at college or did you go to college uh no I went to Davenport University we don’t need to we don’t we don’t need to talk about it but going going back to Michigan like when you when you were brought there was it a factory like did they know how to

Explain to you and every day you were going in there you were like learning so much like where it was like a the one of the best universities you could have gone to to take that ride no well Michigan Michigan at the time like they had uh obviously see the

Facilities now I me no but it was down years right it was the whole time I was there it was like 09 to 13 or like the years that Michigan fans refused to acknowledge like we were terrible back then so I don’t say it because of like

Lack of Michigan but it was like Rich Rodriguez was my first coach who came from West Virginia and they were in the spread and Michigan was so used to be like big 10 football running down your throat type stuff so he didn’t get a good night’s sleep the whole time he was

There then they bring in Brady hog when they really wanted Jim Harbaugh and he like so you were dealing with all these different coaches and different systems yeah different coaches different well the systems weren’t too bad it was just the fact that like Co like it wasn’t

Like the Michigan that michig is now with or Lloyd Carr or Bo shenck all these other cats James Dobson I thought you were saying the strength coach for oh no Mike barwis though he was a he was a g so do you think that going through that where

It was a bit of a Gong Show helped you from like a mental perspective like be able to I don’t know that’s a good question I was I was truly like Solly focused on just making it to the NFL so like any coach that told me anything

Like hey work on this before practice five minutes before I would do that every single practice done yeah I was very extremely focused I partied really hard in college but like I would never let it sacrifice like what I was doing in the weight room I was you know I got

After it you you you were doing it you were having fun on and off the field getting it done I would yeah I’d go on I’d go on some Bender sometimes and it would be like a test like I think to myself okay if I lose one run today

Against the offensive lineman then I’ve been I’ve been going too hard and if it ever happened I would be like okay I got to tail it back here like the weird delusions in your head The Psychotic games you’re playing with yourself constantly okay uh what were you playing

In in high school when you went to to college like how what positions were you in just oh in high school well just cuz like he bringing up his offensive high school he was an offensive line he knew he was going to be that like you obvious

You obviously in Pro didn’t play the positions you were playing in in high school and then College well in uh in high school I was still playing linebacker I was playing like safety in my earlier years then I was a linebacker my senior year and then I did play some

Offensive ball to you know wh Whit want me to tell the stories about my All State days I don’t think we have enough time for that you’re like Al Bundy but going to Nebraska you just solely focused on I I focused just on linebacker and for me it was I I sit

Here and listen to Taylor and I’m like man if I could have [ __ ] just ripped around I feel like I had to be like weirdly obsessed with obsessive with doing like all the things like all the way from start to finish right to put myself in a position um so yeah you just

Worked your dick off basically to get where you were yeah I feel like I had to like I like as far as the tangibles that are talked about in the NFL like I knew all my like numbers and all the tangible things that can be graded was like a a

Lower round undrafted grade but I knew my Edge with everybody with whoever was in front of me or just coming up through college like my Edge was playing from the neck up so I felt like I had to just constantly pour into the Playbook yeah understanding what the offense is doing

Like talking to like coaches helping me study helping me learn how to watch film because I felt like that was where I would find my Edge where I’m a step slow well if I don’t have any missteps then it’ll be just as efficient as the guy in

Front of me and if I do it right every time the moment that they mess up a rep or two and then I start getting thought about then they mess up again cal go get your shot and you don’t mess up on any of it then that’s where you can start to

Edge out for me in my journey that’s where I had to kind of like try and Edge out survive in advance like every year you weren’t given any jobs really no not not really the only time I felt comfortable was 200 2015 and 16 because

I was I was supposed to compete for a starting job where I was injured in preseason so I wasn’t able to actually compete then I ended up taking over the job that year but I knew I was going to be in Washington uh which always made

Like a player feel good when you know you’re not going to be cut like you’re part of the you’re part of the future um and then I when I played well in 15 I got to start and be the guy in 16 because they didn’t fortunately didn’t

Draft anybody then um so you get kind of that luxury of like oh yeah you you know when you sit and you watch the draft and you’re like [ __ ] hopefully they don’t get somebody in my position because if you do you’re like God damn it but but when T when those guys

Wouldn’t get draft in the high rounds or if they were like fifth to seventh you’re like all right I’m going to get a real shot to beat this [ __ ] out versus is somebody who would be higher than you yeah that’s interesting because we always talk on our show about

Salaries in the NHL and we’re hoping they get higher and NFL salaries are incredible but you guys just get cut and like there’s you can’t do that you can get bought out in the NHL you’re still getting paid though and I’ve always said the NFL is all this money but the fact

That you can just get cut at any moment that’s just the Panic every day like you talk about I would I would not be comfortable going through that which I’m sure there was times in Camp you were probably dealing with that right oh yeah I mean so it’s like stressful as [ __ ]

Yeah yeah yeah and you don’t want to like you know the first year on the Titans it was like got a like a six-month lease versus you get a year-long lease uh because you want to know if you’re going to have the op to stay now going to Tennessee I felt

Pretty comfortable uh but yeah in those first couple years like when you’re renting as a young player you’re kind of like hoping you’re not locked into some yearlong lease to where if you do happen to get cut and you got to go somewhere else you’re playing double rent you’re

On the lower stuff like yeah you think about those things one of the things we want to talk to you guys about was like current drama in the NFL and you were on a team where probably why are you laughing like that R start some of it

RG3 and Jay gr’s favorite like uh sports Personality who RG RG3 he [ __ ] L he loves him he’s has he been on the bus no no he’s been on Zoom he he was on during the uh so so your teammates with him RG yeah during his big year his opening

Year no not his rookie year his rookie year when he was like the offensive rookie of the year they took he took him to the playoffs like yeah he was an absolute monster that year I didn’t get to like witness those um what no nothing I think we’re going to hear about the

Downfall yeah so he tore his he tore his knee he tore his ACL in the playoffs so in January and he shouldn’t have been playing in the game he right right there’s a lot of drama behind that story that it was my first year retired I

Watched every game I was like this is the most exciting player I remember he had an end around TD run 50 yards and then he hurt his knee and then they played him and he busted his knee in that it was horrible weather in like the

Field field and he and he probably was never the the same again I would say yes because all of that there’s a lot of drama like before that game because apparently there was kind of like a a there was division on if he should play

If he shouldn’t play then you know as a player you kind of just get field pressure if if everybody’s kind of expecting you to play You’re like kind of like well [ __ ] I don’t want to make people think that I’m just letting everybody down so you kind of get forced

Into playing he tears his ACL and you know you don’t I don’t know at all because I I was becoming a rookie that year um but he placed an expectation on himself he did like this this run with Adidas talk about Allin for week one and

Week one you tear your knee in January you’re trying to be RG3 in September and if you’re going to do training camp that’s eight months like how you going to turn an ACL around that quickly but um he’s on the he’s on the team that year we go three and 13

That was my rookie year and then there’s there’s a lot of question marks on if he should be the guy because there was Kirk Cousins also got drafted in that same class with RG RG was the first round pick Kirk was the fourth round pick there’s uh there’s stuff out there

Saying that Shanahan preferred Kirk over Rob and then when they go three and 13 and Shanahan gets fired Jay Gruden coming in understands that there’s a a level of hey should Kirk be the guy going in over Rob the last staff kind of thought that they got fired does that

Mean the owner likes RG more like there is always that drama circling around it so you can kind of see where where Jay and RG could have beef right because Jay might be thinking all right Kirk is much better for the system that I’m bringing

In here than RG how much of a leash am I gonna am i g to give RG there’s a competition going on all year long type of thing and RG felt like Jay didn’t really mess with him as much because he’d call him out in uh he’ call him out

In the uh in the media if he’d have a bad game like there’s a situation where Rob that’s the one that was coming up this past week where Rob through his teammates under the bus so there was just a lot of drama that year and when

Kirk ended up taking over in the middle of the year that was the the quarterback on Netflix that was the you like that year so we went on a run and made the playoffs that year so that was where RG did we make the playoffs that year either that’s where that’s where that’s

Where RG goes uh you know to the bench and then ultimately uh they didn’t pick up his contract the next year so you kind of just rg’s kind of had he had the career he’s had and it’s he probably looks back I would assume and thinks

Like man if I would have made a couple different decisions here and there versus feeling whether it’s pressured to play on the field pressure with the expectation coming back that you just probably think about those hold some grudges a little bit yeah yeah yeah oh you think so you think RG3’s poopy pants

In this situation because uh Gruden said online like how could they hang uh jayen Herz Jaylen Herz out the dry like that and then RG3 came over the top basically saying like oh you did it to us right right and what was your experience with

Jay Gruden was it like that oh Jay no Jay was awesome there’s there’s no way that like if you know Jay or you look through his timeline or anything like that he’s like a jokester he’s like a fun guy to be around he’s a players coach and so him saying that was

Definitely him just being his personality of him being known as an offensive mind and he’s just saying like if I put any quarterbacks in that I apologize kind of just like laughing RG took the opportunity to kind of bring it to hey you must directly be talking about this or maybe you’re forgetting

This but this basically in my opinion RG was kind of making it seem seem like this is you know going back and having a reason to necessarily feel like you got jaded in a way wow versus being like hey it’s been a decade like at this point

Everybody should be able to reflect and be like it just didn’t work out and you’re fighting online right right which I guess is good when you have a football podcast you can talk about it yeah online but like at the time it’s kind of like you’re kind of

Building stuff up there’s ways to kind of go about it you’re taking this situation all you he always kind of speaks back to that year it’s kind of like no one was good enough back then Jay clearly wasn’t because he got fired eventually none of us are there we never

Had like those Glory years you look back on years basically like this for this reason all the drama that circulated around Washington you know what I mean that place has been a I mean they’ve had a mess of like 20 years now right yeah the Redskins it’s been like a hard like

It’s kind of crazy when you have a bad owner and all of a sudden the the whole thing goes to [ __ ] yes football players are such a unique personality CU I there has to be like a level of delusion that you have to succeed and I feel like

There’s so many times you see players like when they get out and I’m I don’t RG3 has shown this a couple times I don’t know his exact thoughts but there’s a bunch of players when they leave they think they were either way better than they were or they should

Still be playing or for whatever reason it’s like very difficult for you to like point the finger at yourself and be like okay I [ __ ] up because of X Y and Z I wish I would have done X Y and Z different like I feel like the the thing

Guys always say is like I’ll have no regrets like we had Johnny Manzel in our podcast like two years ago and we’re like hey do you regret anything he’s like no I’m thinking about it there’s a couple that you might be able to like I like Johnny like I love like that kind

Of personality the dudes like Baker Mayfields who like who like just kind of say whatever the [ __ ] they want like and they I love that stuff but I think you have to be a little bit tapped in that regard question but all of us sit here at this couch right now playing

Professional sports and we can think of three things right now we wish we had done a little bit different there’s no question minimum minimum 13 maybe off the top right probably should have just not taken supplements right ibly would have saved myself a couple dollars less booze

And less [ __ ] more sleep for sure exactly that would be one of them no matter no matter how much success you’ve had either like you’re still going to think I could have prolonged and made this even better had I done X Y andz Tom sits there right now probably

Laying his bed going man if I would have just done X Y andz them things the first time of his career he wasn’t like the freak like uh nutritionist that he was in the second half so maybe he does think if i’ done this from the change from like 2000 to

Now you think he’s getting Botox yeah who you get BOTOX I had it before for sureit oh yeah I want to look like that I’m aging like milk talk about I wasn’t talking about you or you I talking about he does though he does tlor all of a sudden the you lost

What you lose 80 lbs in 3 weeks and you got new teeth and you got new teeth and Botox you look great yeah I I’ve done it before though I’ve done Botox before it kind of makes me a little nervous is this the TB is this the tb12 diet you lose weight no

Tomatoes like that’s the move how did you lose all the weight I was always a guy that had to gain weight like I was always like always struggling I have like three meals a day plus like two shakes that like 1,200 calories each and so when I now now he makes himself throw

Up after every meal we we had those wings those things didn’t last an hour my you ate a little too many yeah go ahead I was in the bathroom for a minute yeah so the other um Vel you guys are very close with them you guys are both

Coached by him I believe yeah he was coaching Tennessee this year they go in the last uh couple weeks of the season and he gets honored in New England do you think part of his speech had to do with the fact that he got fired I heard

The owner of the the Tennessee Titans is petty why are you looking at me the way you’re looking at me oh just because I’m high was that the reason he got fired because I feel like he’s such a desired coach and and he fit perfectly there

Yeah I think they made a mistake firing him for sure what I don’t know what they’re laughing at but I I thought that was a well articulated question no that was a good question bu I saw that like that he made comments that like there’s no organization like this organization or

Something leg question they won so many super what are you talking about no one’s as good as a organization every every 31 of Team should be like yeah they’re right fuing right like dude the owner got a rubb and tug this past offseason and everyone just like well

They got seven of them or six of them like who gives a [ __ ] like no one gives a [ __ ] yeah it was the day of the AFC title game that he then took his jet after and they won so he’s just yeah he’s pissing they don’t care at all but

Going back to your question like I don’t know if that was a reason I feel like with the Titans like who really knows what goes on like I would love to see a peek behind the curtain of like what the disagreement was but just looking at Vel

Whether you should fire him or not the answer is clearly no like the Titans themselves from like a talent perspective just were not good enough to be competitive this year it just was the facts of who you had on your team and but Rabel being in the being in the

Locker room being in the meeting rooms he’s like the number one guy that like helps you understand the rules he just gets it dude he just [ __ ] understands it he beats it into your brain like he he’s good at dumbing it down he’ll dump it down but he has this thing called

Friday tape and like after the Thursday night game happens Friday morning you have like a kind of speed jog through SL like you know get a couple runs in and the team meeting before he’ll pull up tape from the week before and the Thursday night game and like talk about

Situations and be like watch this guy like if he would have you know got down earlier if he would have got out of bounds in this situation like what kind of situation are we in Biz and he would you would put you on the spot in front

Of the whole team yeah they’d have like team back look at the way he’s punching that’s why when we do all of our drills those stupid [ __ ] drills every day that you guys say this is why you punch through the pocket I hear you guys in

The corner I hear you guys saying how dumb these drills are but this is why we coach it what do I know I played 14 years in the league and he just paints it in your brain how you’re going to how you’re going to do it so you never you

Never have a laps in any situation he prob should have hired himat should have hired him needs to run this that that clip right there yeah for real welome that’s pretty fascinating because he’s the disciple of Bell right he played for the New England Patriots right yeah he played for the

Patriots then he Co did he coach there no never was he became a linebacker coach yeah at Ohio State right away and he was he was a de coordinator for Houston they were like the 32 defense in the league like they weren’t a good defense and he like gets the head

Coaching job and it’s like everyone is just gets better dude on the Pats they used to go to him on like the goal line and he’ catch touchdowns for them oh yeah bro trust me he I imagine the [ __ ] talk he has on all you guys for that

There was a year I think it was 2019 like halfway through the season like Vel put up a sheet of all the receivers and how many touchdowns they’ve had in their career and like they totaled like one less than Vel had yeah it was almost it

Was almost like that not this past year but last year when they were going through all the different receivers AJ’s first year not there they were they kept they brought that statup again how v vay was out uh catching touchdowns and every receiver put together on but I think

Yeah yeah you can’t fire VES dude like he is he’s from an like getting his players understand the game is probably top 10 in the league as far as coaches go Cowboys should hire them I’ve already said it once what are coaches making in the NFL right now is that out there all

That info public yeah Big D sure I would say like mid five to 10 a year yeah yeah yeah five to 10 wow I thought it might even be higher some guys some it might be I’m not even sure G are you looking that up like harball he was offered 10 years

125 Million by Michigan allegedly I don’t know if that’s like a real thing like as a reup cuz he just W it it was even before the national championship no so that’s like that’s like what 12 a year yeah yeah something like that yeah it’s not g I don’t think it’s get much

Higher than that I think Sabin how much was sain making was like or North yeah so yeah yeah the high mark should be just north of 10 uh what’s the story you guys were coming back from London you guys played over there and you guys were

On the team plane yeah so we got we got teed up with this one yeah we didn’t we didn’t take a boat I don’t know and uh what usually happens we were talking about this at dinner like you go and that if you you leave the day before the

Game so Saturday you sleep you play and then you’re you head back immediately doesn’t matter how late the game is so London was not much different but we got there Thursday and when you go to London you have to like they want you to sleep

The whole time so they give you like an ambient or or whatever guys get high and they just go to sleep and then the way back they’re like you guys need to stay up cuz it’s night in London or whatever like the time changer I’m not great with

Time but [ __ ] going back you’re going to want to be up so anyway we go back and it’s like we lost on like a we went for two at the end of the game and didn’t get it but the whole like front of the plane all first class they gave

It to the players and there’s guys like guys are smoking music it’s just nuts like a cloud all around like first class it was crazy like we had one guy um he was smoking a blunt on the plane and this like imagine that in an NHL plane

This like male male stst or male flight attendant comes up he’s like excuse me sir like you can’t you can’t do that and he’s like oh yeah for real okay he walks away the minute he leaves he like man [ __ ] him and lights it back up and the

The flight tend kind just sat back in his seat for the next five and a half hours and just let guys go nuts oh my God he’s like I’m not do I’m not trying to stop this I I gave my one CH please stop doing that yeah they can’t tell me

I didn’t try there was like a but there’s like a bunch of gambling that goes on like Will’s got some crazy stories about the Redskins but dudes will lose thousands and thousands of dollars oh yeah on a flight back dude flight what are they playing what are

They what’s their car game uh what is it boay Bay I don’t know I don’t know NHL got like I guess a bunch of different ones snares uh poker was popular when I that’s what we did in Edmonton Texas hold them JY seven up seven down games

Of all time the have you seen the NHL our playe is space and boo fuing out there dudes are rolling dice in the back I’m not even [ __ ] making a joke like that’s what they’re in the corner the flight out of the way I’m pretty sure on the Redskins Trent Williams got say

Names well I mean he’s I mean it’s he made Aon yeah he’s made so much money but six figures down coming off the plane I mean there was big money being gambled that gets gambled whether it’s dice whether it’s uh Spades boay did they have the cash or it was more like a

Like a you owe one this This Crew had to cash oh [ __ ] so they they bring like 100 Stacks are they Blue Light special for any of these or are they collecting every dollar Blue Light Special in hockey is where let’s say your teammate

Owes you 60 you say hey give me 40 40 is good oh I’m sure there I never found myself in that in that type of predicament so thank God hey you were just watching the film on the iPad having a sh you get so nervous being

Asked hey will you want to come play oh my dude playes are so funny cuz like in the back guys that’s where the gambling is going on and then like right in the middle are like all the guys like glued to their iPads watching every single [ __ ] snap and talking to teammates a

Little bit further is like all the booze bags sitting in the front getting after it playing you know word games and [ __ ] the ones who skimmed skimm through it but they’re already done they’re up they’re moving and there’s a psychopath that sit in the corner and

Just like stare at their iPad redo every single play over and over again rewinding [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] if I would have just players you guys don’t get wild on the plane uh yeah well like some teams have taken the boot who off the planes now I wonder what that I wonder what

That number is now I was I was saying yeah to you earlier that when I first came in the league yeah you could have like you’d have beers at your seat you could have as many beers as you wanted really I guess I mean it wouldn’t get

Too crazy I was in Pittsburgh so the flighters were short in the East but you’d have long flights like after a game and guys would get after it but it it definitely changed um have you guys noticed a change as far as how like guy health conscious guys are back in the

Day it seemed like half the team was getting a six-pack now it’s like all protein shakes guys aren’t really drinking that much like it’s kind of like losers I feel like we were like in a in the transition you let I’m thinking myself think I hope you say something

Cuz I was not listening oh okay I’m used to getting ignored that’s okay I feel like we were like the years we were in the league was like a transition period from like all like guys that would drink 40 beers and five hot dogs and then now like now it’s like

Super super healthy and like we were like part of that like the older guys would all be putting down 12 Beers on a flight and then like the newer guys would be stay a little the liquor yeah dude’s getting crazy now like Christian mcaffrey he comes on the

Pod and he talks about like him going a little crazy with some Sun Chips it’s like all right yeah okay I was in a different M he likes chocolate chip chocolate chip ice cream what was some of the the craziest like was there any guys that had like seven eight kids

Running around like like guys that blew crazy amounts of money like what are some of your crazy takeaway stories from the NFL being like bro I’m playing with this guy such and such and like he’s strolling up in a new Lambo every day like just like

Crazy NFL [ __ ] most of the league that rookie starter the rookie starter Packy guys spend their dough there like the new Camaro there’s a reason why 80% go broke is it is that the number still it’s like 80% go I can thr that it’s still that number like that’s crazy at

This point we 780 last night yeah I had guys that were like uh undrafted cats or like rookie contracts would ask me for loans like in April like hey could you spot me 100 grand talked to a guy who made like probably 80 to 100 million he

Was playing with the Minnesota Vikings I don’t want to say his name but he said when you guys I’m not going to say his name oh [ __ ] did I call that okay so we’ll bleep out the name but you got you nailed it no [ __ ] and he

Said during the lockout one year he had about 12 to 15 guys on his team oh he told us that on the that’s probably where I my subconscious grab yeah he did so we kind of got Rowdy there but uh um he was saying between 12 to 15 guys

During that lockout the one year and they were like just take the deal take the deal cuz they he had 15 guys on hard money loans a teammate now you just don’t see that type of ir responsibility maybe one guy there’s been a few NHL

Stories but is it it’s like so crazy and common in the NFL isn’t it I feel like there’s like like a multitude of things like maybe like I feel like I don’t know a lot about hockey but with football you could have guys that grew up dirt poor

And dudes that you know drove Mercedes to high school like there’s everything in between as well with hockey I feel like everything’s kind of like yeah middle to Middle upper class like it’s expensive to play hockey growing up so you have to have some sort of sense of

What a dollar is and also hockey like fully guaranteed contracts so you know when you sign whatever deal it is you’re like oh I can plan because I know for sure I’m getting gu but only get 2/3 or maybe one third if you’re younger yeah below a certain age that’d be insane

Bring you in hey we’re going to have to a lot of there’s been a lot of NHL guys who get bought out and then sign with another team and end up making more than they would have they KN double dip all if the team buys you out you’re then a

Free agent yeah say you have 5 years left on your deal they buy you out for two-thirds and they have to pay you over twice the length of that time so over the next 10 years you’ll get two-thirds of the deal so it’ll trickle out but there’s been guys yeah they they sign

Such a big deal and they get bought out after like two years so they’re going to see you know let’s say 50 of the 80 million and then they might sign another 30 million somewhere else what if then they get bought out of that could they I

Don’t know how many I actually actually I believe there was one player recently who had two teams paying him that he wasn’t playing for on on bio who was it uh I don’t remember but it wasn’t for a crazy length of time I think it was for

One year and I might but I might be completely making that out making that up but I want to say there was one yeah could be the weed though could could be the weed you got the insance you guys had to have been in a locker

Room like I was when when you know you’re all getting ready for practice and then like one guy comes in like hey this guy’s not here today this like any crazy wild stories involving like teammates or oh yeah dude we had a um a kid that got drafted his name was Isaiah

Wilson I have no problem saying his name he was like drafted in 2020 and this kid was like he was a first round pick had like I think the 23rd pick or whatever like that and he would fall asleep in meetings all the time he would he would

Come drunk like he was just a lunatic and one day during camp like we woke up in the morning like 6:00 a.m. hey Isaiah’s not here where is he at no idea 8:00 pre meetings hit okay he’s still not here 8:30 misses practice misses everything kid was out all night getting

After I think he played like four snaps all on field goal and then was cut the next year and he was you say he’s a first round budy how are you not seeing that did they interview him how do you not see that I know I talked to John

Robinson about it and he was like he his thing was it was Co nothing was Zoom you couldn’t do anything in person he’s like I swear to God I feel like I would have sniffed him out but like I guess if it was room if you’re in the same room yeah

Same room like you figure out what kind of guy they are cuz usually at the combine they have like your unofficials which is like this giant room and you kind of just like you’re a number so my number is like o23 and you like tag in

And then you have like people grab you and they have four minutes at a time to know you and then there’s officials where you spend 15 minutes and it’s like G like speed dating for real GM head coach and like a psychologist and you like walk in the room and they’re like

Dissecting you the whole time like talking about all your stuff like whether you had like you know assault theft battery and robbery or you had a whole bunch of stuff going on and then they try to figure out your brain like there’s much more of an extensive process from a mental standpoint so

There’s like how many how many teams brought up that list not very many oh okay not I had some other stuff that they wanted to bring up in I had a how did you marry your girl in five weeks this is like ding ding ding this

Is crazy behavior yeah I had an assault case uh right after the Ohio State Michigan game and uh it was like not resolved yet so they had to like they were like gaming me over it and I ended up like resolving it like halfway through my rookie year so that was like

The big thing for me you think that cost you a couple spots in the draft probably yeah probably I had like there was I had really when I met my wife is when like all the boozing stopped all like I got real focused I was always like really

Focused on Ball but like the partying part was just a very consistent thing like I remember like my rookie year the Super Bowl was in Arizona I like a 4-day bender we like slept 10 hours maybe in those 4 days and it was like it was nuts it was

At the Super Bowl um the Super Bowl 4 day Bender it made me think of Vegas and partying and you guys have became close with and I hate to change topics but Dana White you guys are [ __ ] story man what just missed out on a great

Story no I’m kidding go ahead go that was a great story I he’s talking about his legal stuff you got cut them off right long story short I’m still on probation pull up an ankle bracelet can’t speak Dana White um what’s it like hanging out with that guy you you guys

Are going to Red Rocks all time G like you gamble that hardcore are you playing 10K a hand before last year I hardly ever gambled like be like good hobby to take up later later life I I truly can say out loud I have an issue yeah so we

Met him in uh at the Super Bowl last year and we had him for like 30 minutes and he was awesome he’s like why don’t you guys come out to uh Power slap this thing he was doing so we go out there and usually when I go

To Vegas I’ll get like a a big credit line and I don’t really gamble but I say hey I have this big credit line now and they give me a nice suite and comp a whole bunch of stuff I feel like I’m tricking in Vegas and uh so I get the

Credit line and I people are saying how big of a gambler is so I’m like hey I have X Y and Z and he his eyes get like this big and he’s like you and me tonight we’re getting dinner and then we’re going gambling and uh I won like

40K in 3 minutes time like he like we walked up he’s like how much you want I was like I’ve never won more than 30 if I could win 30 that’d be awesome and uh we walk up he looks at the dealer cuz you walk in at the Red Rocks there’s

Like this High Roller room and then you go through the High Roller room through these two doors and it’s like just one dealer and like five suits just sitting behind them and you can you can bet literally $25 if you want or $30,000 and there’s you can it’s like so if you

Wanted to go up to 30 what was he having you Hammer each hand 5K so there no no no if I was trying to get 30 the first time we gambled he is like we walked in and it was like he goes give him 10 $10,000 put it on there Flip Flip Flip

Flip dealer gets Blackjack my heart sinks I’m like it’s over I’m I’m GNA have to kill myself at the end of this whole thing yeah that’s yeah and then like four hands later I have a double end up winning 40 and I’ve gone I went back every single month in 2023 I would

Say almost every single month and I lost one time and it was bad but overall I’m up like six figures just gambling with he what’s he G matches everything so he’s been banned from a lot of casinos there is that a internet rumor no yeah he there’s yeah he because he has a

Method in which he goes and he hammers him and then he and he walks him oh oh and you winning that much I didn’t know he actually had a method that won apparently the way that Vegas wins is you get players to come in and they sit

There and the longer they sit there statistically their advantage goes down farther and farther and farther Dana’s whole thing is he’s not going to drink he’s going to have a water he’s going to sit there and he’s going to hit Max bets so like at Caesars they’ll let him do

75,000 a hand but let’s just say Red Rocks he does 30 he’ll bet $30,000 if he wins two hands he’s done he leaves he gets a car he cashes out and he goes home but there’s also nights we were there last time we were there he was

Down a million dollars 1.2 I think was 1.2 he lost he was down 1.2 million and came back it was like 4 AM came back and one 90,000 and the next night was down two and he’s just isn’t that like an overall losing formula though sounds

Like he’s sitting there a while not if you [ __ ] him if if you [ __ ] Vegas and Like get out it’s awesome get out yeah Red Rocks is great too cuz they like a lot of casinos like obviously you guys have been you go there like you even

Touch your phone like sir don’t pull your phone out none of this none of that when you go to Red Rocks you can do whatever the [ __ ] you want you can have your phone out you can film it oh yeah you can do like literally uh this kid

Named Steve will do it was doing like a cold tub while he was gambling and like like beer bongs like we’re like we could do beer bongs literally anything you want last time I was there I was hungry and I was like hey can I get like steak

And eggs and as I’m playing I’m eating steak and eggs and they can just you do whatever you want it’s the best um so you guys were going on those UFC fights too uh have you ever gotten Star Struck like who are you hanging out yes who are

You rubbing out the one we went and met when they met Trump will still shaking from you dabbed up Trump what’s four what’s 4 five like he’s a [ __ ] every clip you see of him is ex exctly him see yes we we W dude we were sitting there we were what second row

Yeah I mean Mark walberg’s right in front of us you got Johnny Knoxville will chirped Mark Wahlberg to his face the first time we met him it’s one of my more prowder moments of all time we were sitting there like the power slap thing it was like it was me will Mark Wahlberg

And ASA the guy that Caleb interviewed yeah this [ __ ] the little guy oh no [ __ ] and uh he was saying something like oh when were you like something about Detroit and he was like oh I was in there shooting trans Transformers and will goes oh you were in Transformers and the

Place well he he remember he kind of went out he kind of went a little off track to talk about how he was out there when he was shooting the movies yeah yeah yeah yeah Transformers and kind of bodied him a little bit it was a nice little Transformers and and laughs he

Loved it no no no he I mean he kind of chuckled he handled it he hand he took it the chin and kept mov yeah yeah yeah he yeah cuz everybody others were laughing that’s what made me feel like okay that was a nice joke I was

Like to meet motherucker got cut by the he com to the Beer Olympics oh the Beer Olympics we were chatting about that that thing just exploded last summer right hang on hang on hang on WE you got to listen to We about 45 yeah we got [ __ ] you got hear

The conversation that way down it good so we go we sit down and sure enough that that he’s just sitting there and like there’s love them or hate them like 45 is a polarizing [ __ ] figure and you’re like holy [ __ ] and we’re literally from me to this camera we’re

Trump is and uh Dana like turns around like moves somebody out of the way and like introduces me and will and he looks at us and he goes couple of big strong handsome men and we’re just like [ __ ] yeah dude thank God like he’s he was

Exactly like you would expect him to be he said it exactly how he says it in all the interview not try to tire pump the boys either he hand out a compliment couple man missiles here love it boys right after the main like right before

The main event started I I hit Dana and I was like hey can we get a picture with you in 45 and he’s like absolutely we pop over and we take a picture and then Will’s talking to Dana and I’m sitting there like a [ __ ] loser just like

Kind of any have no idea what to say to yeah what do you say to Trump dude he like turns to me and he goes you’re doing great just like [ __ ] yeah dude you think so so he just Tire pops just he go you’re doing great doing great and dude

Every single break every single time there was a lull in the action there is 40 people that came up to him didn’t lose energy the whole time would would talk to everybody as if they were his best friend kind of going not bad okay all right yeah bad brother yeah they

Perceive you a lot different on CNN man I’ll tell you you’re a lot different the guys from CNN would just go to UFC fight they’d probably be about Trump after yeah outside of those court documents you’re hell of a guy oh W it was wild it was wild what a

Character who who what other famous people I mean you said Johnny Knox that’s huge that was our childhood didn’t one of my biggest regrets him and Vince Vince Von wasn’t a regret that was you guys joke about your interactions with these people is how you’re kind of

Yeah dude cuz I had this [ __ ] dumb thing that I’m finally getting over where like if I meet somebody like if I’m a fan of you sure I want to like not be like hey hey I’m a fan I want to somehow put us on the same level to

Where hopefully there’s a kindling of a relationship l a foundation right away right away and will put it we were we were banged up one night at my house and Will was kind of laying it down for me like bro like some of these guys you’re

Just not g to be friends with you might as well give them flowers like I’m going to be boys with Johnny Knoxville he’s 50 like what is Johnny Knoxville I hang out like go to going be FaceTiming you in two days no he’s going to meet you be

Like I just met a Seeker dude guy’s nuts we’re sitting there and I’m looking like this is [ __ ] joh Knoxville like growing up I did not watch sports I like was like in the like Freestyle Motocross and watching jackass like those were my heroes and he’s just sitting there

Hanging out doing his thing with his girl and I didn’t say a [ __ ] word to him and I knew that was like Taylor’s like I knew he’s top three yeah I knew and I was like you checken out I leaned over to Taylor and I was like I go hey

If you don’t ask for a photo or with him soon like I’m going to be like a parent walk around the chair and ask but he left before he left like during a fight so the op there was no like downtime it was like next break I was think my head

Cuz then at the thing I’m just thinking like bro I I I feel you but that’s your dude like you got to be like one of your guys like like he’s going to be like oh that’s weird that this person feels this way it’s going to be like you’re

Probably going to say something genuine next time you see him would you bring up the first time seeing him in 1000% that’s is that what you’d leave with and try to bomb with to send him this on like twit before I’m in Cabo at this party that I have no business being at

This party and like it’s in the middle of the desert and who’s [ __ ] there another top three Vince vau yeah vce and he’s s you know him personally no I met him at a Coyotes game cuz they were playing the Blackhawks and he was a big

Blackhawks fan and like I asked for a picture with him in the room and I asked him to do like the fist up cuz I was a fighter and I felt like the biggest loser cuz I could see like his natur Los but that’s that’s the fear it yeah it

Was just the look quickly I could usually read the energy pretty good I think he thought I was a peasant but I got my photo yeah you can get body body language from people they can seem approachable or you could tell like that’s somebody that does not want to be

Bothered but I feel like Johnny Knoxville would have just been chilling like obviously like probably wanting to talk to you I know when will when will did the thing where he was like I’m if you don’t say anything I’m going to have to go do it I literally was like hey hey

Don’t don’t don’t like get like nervous like a girl seeing she has a crush on like it was bad you did approach Vince Von so yeah so I’m at this party and I see I see Big Vinnie and he’s sitting there talking to a bunch of people but

He’s not talking to people as if like he’s having a conversation like there’s 15 people sitting there waiting to also say their things that they want to say to Vince fun yes so I think in my head like hey lay back do your thing like hey you’re tall too maybe he’ll peek some

Eyes over and he a couple times we did catch eyes and I was like you know we’re just kindling a relationship here so I like finally I puss out and I’m like go to the bus is to go back to the hotel and I’m sitting there and the bus is not

Going to be there for like 10 minutes I’m like dude when are you going to see Vince Von again [ __ ] turn around he’s there standing with two guys and one other dude that like I I had a conversation with earlier I was like perfect walk up to the dude say some

[ __ ] thing that we were talking about before look right at him like Hey man big fan of you like grew up like you’re you’re the man essentially but I was like very heartfelt genuine and he gave me the hey baby I appreciate that man really nice to meet you as well as

Our hands are like separating as the touch ends both of his buddies take one step forward and turn their shoulders to me make a blockade and walk them away oh you got big time I got yes and bro I I didn’t I didn’t think it was going to

End like that I thought he was going to say hey do you want a picture you did the swingers voice you did the swingers voice and I thought that that meant he was going to be like come on let of a beer and he said baby to you yeah he hit

Me with the baby I was like Fu when you said baby I’m like okay you’re in but I I I went home a defeated man like I went home and I was like questioning my entire life writing freehand poetry with a quill that’s how bad life was and so I

I get back I tell the boys about this we end up in Notre Dame Ohio State this fall who’s there Vince vongh we know Vince Von’s goingon to be in town because he’s a big Notre Dame fan we hit up Steve Burn we’re like yo we know he’s

In town just let him know that we’re here we would love to meet him in my head I’m thinking Redemption I got Lose Yourself by Eminem playing in my head the whole entire Steve was also Steve was also aware what happened with Taylor and he’s like ah you guys to me like

That ain’t that ain’t how it goes down that’s not how it is so we’re at this we’re at a tailgate before like kind of doing our like fall tour thing and Steve said something about like hey I’m putting like no he didn’t even say anything he just puts us in a group chat

With Vince vaugh oh nice and he’s like hey uh Vince this is Taylor Lewan and Will Compton blah blah blah they’re at the game and will and I I’m across I’m like taking a piss or something like that well I came I came up and I go

Check your phone yeah and oh yeah then I walked away and we literally send the same exact text at the same exact time nothing happens for a while service is bad at South Ben Indiana though so finally he texts back we get to the field we see

Him and it’s legit like Wedding Crashers Vince Fawn heyy oh we’re having a [ __ ] time with him he’s like we’re going to go in the locker room you want to come in the locker room I love you came in the locker room with us right now we’re having a great day like he’s

Just being that [ __ ] guy he’s on he’s loving it he’s talking to everybody shaking hands big belly laughs we’re on the sideline with him and he’s like leans we weren’t even we were we were back we were kind of like saying it back cuz there’s a lot of people on the

Sideline probably doesn’t hurt that a few people are shouting out your guys names too there oh for sure like you talking like pregame like some of the yeah like yeah I’m sure people were there being like hey it’s the busting guys where like he’s like oh these guys

Must be somebody kind of helps a little bit more Steve probably helped big time but and we were with Shane and Caleb that’s right and he uh that’s right big dog yeah no you got you got Caleb there too so you know he’s getting love like uh Shane obviously he like the biggest

Comedian we were like in that crew so we’re standing there we’re probably like three rows back and like standing on the sideline and Vince is like in the front he like looks back he sees me in Taylor he’s like hey y’all two want to come up here we’re like hell yeah and then

That’s where you know we’re standing there we’re talking the game or we’re like you know Notre Dame goes for it on fourth down when they shouldn’t have they should have took three we’re all just agreeing like he should have took three there and he’s like yeah and then

He he he says like you know they’re Notre Dame’s backed up one time they’re trying to come out he’s like hey we should you know do a Flea Flicker here or something like that like we’re like talking ball one time he’s like Tom Osborne wouldn’t do that and I’m just

Thinking does he know a [ __ ] went to Nebraska if he knows or is he just saying Tom Osborne it was like the greatest comeback story for another a second chance [ __ ] right man like a second impression like Vinnie probably knew he just knew he let

Me down so bad that he like had to come he came with the [ __ ] I would have been shocked if if that was the end of the story and he was Dick cuz you just imagine him as exactly what he just I would legit like Vince he’s one

The heroes I I couldn’t have ended the Pod the way that you said the first one oh yeah yeah a happy ending that was too sad we got okay so one of the most viral things in the NFL this season was something that you created or you responded will will restart will restart

Was a for Civil War in America Fu wants to go back a couple years slow down a little bit B go pump the brakes here no but there was was a former Steeler player yeah Rashad menen Hall yeah and he sent out the original tweet about it he sent out the original

Tweet just [ __ ] on basically like average white people who talk about football in the media like I’m better than your goat like we should have a a a white vers black Pro Bowl they should they should cancel the Pro Bowl and just do white vers black guys like I’m better

Than your goat like had that tweet come out not a bad idea so that was going nuts in the morning and cuz we’re doing busing and Jack’s like hey like there’s a there’s a tweet going viral right now and they show rard minal’s tweet and we

Kind of talk about on the bus kind of laugh a little bit but also thinking like man do do we need to have yeah do we need to have this real reaction right now we when we’re just hearing it reach out to my PR person unfortunately since

It was Delan and not necessarily me and Taylor like we might have handled it a little bit differently you kind of felt like I was going back and forth with Delaney a little bit but afterwards when I saw how crazy was going and I saw the engagement more so being like funny and

Humorous yeah yeah yeah everyone’s kind of laughing at it and so I thought to myself like oh I think people would really mess with me putting together this all white all black team like in totality with the allh team and so I just did it and I sent it to a group

Chat that’s like me and a bunch of my old teammates where I’m like the only white dude I’m like hey what do y’all think of this video and they laugh they like oh we we mess with it seems like something you put out there the only

Thing I think about is the the Harvard joke that was pretty wild wild and so I I threw it out there just thinking all right well I got to figure out if I know where a line is at some point you kind of just throw it out thinking it’ll

Probably be big but maybe have a mixed reviews and it just heart rate pumping as you pumping on the first reaction that first 10 minutes of you kind of Hit the scroll down yeah once it says 60 minutes left to edit you’re just thinking all right [ __ ] here we go huckle

In and here we I immediately sent it to Taylor like I’m like all right well we’re about to see what the reaction is it was amazing too because like I I I I saw the original tweet I’m like oh that would be a they they we’d get drummed

The white squ would get drum and then your video comes out you’re you’re listing off the offense and I’m like this isn’t a bad team right here and then all of a sudden you get to defense you get to secondary we don’t have anyone although there is one kid coming

Up that came from Iowa uh is it is it cooper cooper deant uh he’s going get first rounder right so got a potential first rounder out although exaggerated the first tweet were they correct there’s no way that the whites would beat the blacks wait dud do

What hey who am I thinking would win the game we got a shot we cover okay what’s the spread cover 27 here’s my stipulation I wasn’t even trying to make a joke there no I know I’m trying I’m trying to figure out if you asking if

Plus n and a half maybe I still feel the same way after put the rers out no I’m saying like who do you think would win who do I think would win yes I think we got a real shot okay I I know I know coaching staff we

Can fill out a great coaching staff and what are the parameters are we playing in two weeks notice I told Delany I said for the yeah our team would be prepped you might be out there doing a little you know messing around a little bit you

Never know you guys are you guys are going to have guys fighting the day of the game on who should be playing cuz you have way too much dep we kind of know what’s going down right when we show up we got to hit the ground run and

We got to find every Edge possible got to have a good first half yeah and defensively like we’ve went back and forth on it but you got you either Rush three and drop eight and you have to play Four underneath four deep you can’t play any manto man you can’t allow any

Of the corners of secondary back there to be locked in on Tyreek Hill going downi you just have one safety 45 yards deep at all times Tyreek you got to cover east to west yeah and then you get you know you got to get TJ watt yeah Bosa both BOS

Brothers yeah I mean they’ll be you know they’ll be hungry oh yeah Hing hutchingson hey those guys are a statement game for them between we on business right now hey on the offensive side of the ball it’s three yards in a cloud of dust like you

Got to [ __ ] you got a time management you got to keep the ball out of their hands your teammates up yes got to be outstanding on special teams get him inside the 10 yard line at all times that’s a must yeah it’s a must and then

A couple Gadget plays here and there you got to [ __ ] with a couple motions cple Shi anation Puerto Rico yeah you’re taking three guys from one side to the other side they’re [ __ ] doing CHS they don’t guess what we’re going right up the gut again that’s again that’s the

Move that’s the only way you got to run the football and control the clock got to take you got to the the over under you guys have thought about this a lot I’m sure the totals on that game would be like 75 we could hit the under on

That yeah we’d be plus 24 and a half and run be 75 yeah boys um that about wraps the first one up we’re going to have to get you on a again I know we were all over the map but that’s what happens when you get the boys together in little

Toy toi beforehand it’s just we’re on planet zon just snap snapping it snapping it around so this is number one busting with the boys brand you find them anywhere you listen to your pods watch watch you guys on YouTube and you’re killing it I mean so congrats on

All the success we got to do this twice a year once in a while three times a year catch up Squad right here all right boys oh by the way went into went into bar still office and like you played a Pro Sport like people forget like you won you won that

Survivor competition yeah I felt like I was slipped on going into it yeah it’s like buddy do you not know that I was like team I was like grinding out every day watching The Playbook never reading you got to lay low though you can’t let them know that stuff like yeah let them

Think all that stuff like I try to find my try to find my ways in here these people who never played sports like they just don’t know that’s just no no they don’t it’s something you can’t teach right you Fu what do you mean I’m with

You I’m you said to me on the phone like we paid sports it’s like you just can’t teach it yeah can’t teach it just got to know a little bit different before we sign off this whole thing can you tell your fans that both of you will be participating in Olympics next year

Someone’s coming out of retirement well I’m sober right now but offseason 100% I’m in June June I’m coming I’m coming you guys got to come to be olymp sure are we teammates would you want to be teammates okay yes I would like to I think I think me and you could do some

Damage I think we could do some damage yeah hockey boys can drink and even if I’m taking time off can you compete though oh buddy I don’t even know what the games are but anything I’m going to need you to drink beforehand though you can’t go into Beer Olympics I’ll go into

Beer Olympics dead sober trust me don’t don’t need any more than what goes down warm beers you got a warm you I’m not saying like that day but like you you can’t not drink for a year and then go to Beer Olympics I’ll do that’s Stam

Maybe I’m puking in the corner and it’s good cont warm up you got to get ready that’s going to be your first time drinking I I’ll save it for the Beer Olympics go you’re done no I’m not we’re going to have to have make sure hey I’ll

Get i’ll get a little I’ll get a couple no PS I got a couple no can’t take any [ __ ] vly l you those little sniffer boys yeah a couple those things you have 40 beers you take one of those little bumps you’re Stone Cold Sober Sober again it’s like nothing ever

Happened well so I hear so I hear I’ve never tried it thank you signing off great job all right before we go any further here’s a few words from our friends at zip recruiter according to Forbes January is the hottest month for hiring and hunting for top talent is no easy

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Commercial back in the day with he [ __ ] put me down H I feel like I was doing a WWF commercial but either way we mentioned Ma and flurry earlier passed Patrick W second on the alltime wins list but is he going to get move bus he

Does have a full no no move Clause it’s the last year of his deal he basically can determine his fate I don’t think Minnesota’s going to make the playoffs this year you think he ends up somewhere and if so where Biz uh I think I think that Colorado should pick up Mark Andre

Flurry love that um right now they’ve been talking about the amount that gorv has been playing and it’s a bit of a concern which is crazy because I think he’s on Pace to maybe play 67 games where back then I mean you talk about Patty W even when flower stepped in it

Was very common for these starting goalies to play 65 to 70 games I think think bro dur might average over 70 throughout his career which is absolutely [ __ ] insane and the only way that you’re going to break the WIS record but I think that it would be nice

For them to have a little cushion because if you go back to when they won the the the cup more recently keer went down and was it is it franos is that how you say his last name franos who had a great regular season there he was a fan

Frit he stepped in during that Edmonton series and he played awesome so you’re going to need that that type of uh 1 a 1B situation my favorite saying going and some people might be saying well you’re contradicting yourself CU you said move on from VAR varlamov well I

Always [ __ ] contradict myself so shut up um La should maybe give a call on flurry because I don’t know like that the whole team’s struggling but they don’t really have much goal tending going on so I don’t know if he’ll definitely get traded though dude because it’s probably

The last year of his career right which would make you think he’d want to get traded but he might just be like all right i’ I’ve been doing this Rat Race for a while now you know what I’m saying like maybe I’m just maybe I’m just ready to

Just finish out this year and and enjoy my last few months now there could be a a side of him who wants to go on one more run but does he want to go somewhere where he’s not even definitely the starter either it’s just like his whole family’s been moving around so

Much so I don’t know how it’s going to play out but in the end it’ll be up to him I think I think when you’re getting traded near the deadline though you just think about hey worst worst case Ontario I’m gone for another 3 three and a half

Months keep the keep the family in mini keep him in school there and then you just go on the run so I I I think it’s a a no-brainer and I think that Billy Garren if putting him in the right situation he would for sure uh wave that

And I think at this time teams are [ __ ] getting so desperate I bet you can get a like a top end second round pick right now for him and and who knows maybe some teams gave you a little squirly and give up a first rounder for him that’s how desperate some teams are

In the goal tending category yeah yeah it’s been a pretty much a 180 on how how teams have felt about gold tenden champ biz for sure uh one guy who is definitely not getting traded at the deadline Steven stamp Coast uh Tampa Bay Captain uh his GM Julian Breeze poured

Cold water all over that trade speculation uh he said it’s popular it’s interesting a frequent topic who’s gonna get traded who won’t get traded Stephen stamp Coast isn’t getting traded you can all write that Stephen stamp Coast is not getting tra so we can put that one

To bed and we’re going to put that to bed right now uh I don’t blame him why would you do that now guys been their franchise leader in goals points games all that [ __ ] would make no sense to trade him right now especially with a [ __ ] another cup run coming uh we got

Some shout outs for the boys out there uh how about Owen tippet this goal he scored the other night probably number one for the gold year candidate just turn around whip a snap a backhand just unreal [ __ ] goal even torella gave him props which he doesn’t like to do

Too much I don’t think at the mic for players but how about the trade G actually great Point uh G brought up like like to revisit that trade Philly sent clo JW was a pending UFA a fifth and 24 uh two guys who are currently playing in Europe tippet a third and 23

Which lended Prospect uh Denver bakley and Florida’s first in June unless they crash and burn it becomes a top 10 pick I mean he broke out last year 49 points 77 games only making a million and a half this year due for a big raise this year but I mean people picked on

Fletcher a lot with but he [ __ ] nailed this one though he crushed it and and I think torz made a good point in saying he has he has a chance to be a really special player um probably a guy who who’s actually looking back will look back and say he’s really happy and

Lucky he had Tor as a as a coach at a young age teaching him like the correct way to play and like you’ve seen it a lot with guys he had in Tampa back in the day and Vinnie La cavier and Brad Richards and guys at the beginning who

Who have offensive talent and speed and skill but need to know how to play a 200 foot game Tor has done a lot with him and you’ve seen some of the speed burst this kid has they’ve been some of the highest ones calculated with this new technology the NH

Has where he’s busting down the wing a lot of times he’s beating guys wide and on a play like the other night he kind of went to cut in against Dallas and decides to Denny Savard spin around and shelf it backhand so I think the red

Hair just adds to the magic of him in Philly and and he’s a maniac playing his balls off so that was a hell of a trade Looking Back Now absolutely you know it was tough for him in Florida too three the three seasons he was there he had

Three different coaches it’s tough for a young kid to you know make an impression on that situation he certainly blossomed in Philly uh Jumbo Joe no surprise here his number 19 will be retired uh next season by the San Jose shocks absolutely no-brainer there soon enough he’ll be in

The Hall of Fame as well shout out to Jumbo Joe uh we want to congratulate Tyler Andis he retired he had a 13-year NHL career spent the last two seasons over in Europe his last season was in Germany uh he suffered a neck injury back in November playing for Manheim so

He made a statement said he was grateful for everything that that he went through his whole career uh he’s retired he’s all done so I don’t know him personally I have heard so many good things about this guy mer and him are boys I heard

He’s a funny bastard I would love to get him on the show to to talk to him and hear about some of these Antics he was up to during his career there you go Tyler open invite uh just a quick H get well to our buddy Alex colon you know we

Don’t do this with every injury but he’s been on the show a bunch Big Friend of the program he [ __ ] up his knees got to get arthoscopic surgery so just want to send our best wishes out to killer man hope all right I got a quick one too

Just to throw in with posha in here I love posha I hate him but I love him we should also in honor of him mentioned the Rangers are horrific right now so I don’t know if Rangers fans want to reach out to us and we’ve had our beefs obviously

Everyone on this show with Rangers fans but what’s going on with them folks maybe just hop into the comments of the YouTube hop into the comments on Twitter and shurin there’s an issue going on there and I don’t know what exactly it is but Pasha made the point I think

They’ve won two of their last nine or something like that did I not say this in the preseason well I know but then you switch then you switch back to for he and to win the cup I I said that he was going to get sick and tired of

Saving their bacon and it looks like he’s sick and tired of saving their bacon and they and they’ve been healthy for the most part that’s the thing I know he’s out and it was interesting I saw a picture come out with heel and yarma Yaga he’s skating back home in the

Check Republic so apparently they let him get home to get to get healthy from his concussion back to the check which is a little surprising but I think maybe you’re looking at like let’s have him be comfortable around his family and let him take the long flight there and back

But it was kind of cool to see that at least now that he’s skating again again it’s with the eggs it’s kind of the reverse of your situation with the Oilers when I stay away from them I’m not aggravating their fan base they take a dump I jumped on their bandwagon last

Year during playoffs I thought when they added Patty Kane they were oh I was double risting them and all of a sudden they lost the posh’s Devils start of the year I was all over them I got the fan base riled up they were humming out of

The gate I haven’t said a word to them I’ve been all over the Islanders and look what happen so hey island or Rangers fans reach out to me I could start [ __ ] on you guys they’re leading the metro and yeah zad but like I hear Rangers fans are like

Talking about his low goal scoring but he’s still producing like I don’t think like that’s like the biggest worry on that team right now but it is Weir rers fans are giving it to him though right now I know but like figure some give it to shurin right now sherin’s more at

Fault than [ __ ] jaad is I just said his name like an absolute [ __ ] but you know what I’m saying I don’t know why they’re giving it to him and Quick’s been Onre man 94 and two 246 goals against 9913 save percentage and this is a guy I think everybody thought he

Probably going to retire over the summer and he’s kind of been keeping the ranges Al flat a little bit he had an amazing U video they gave to him in LA and and unfortunately they they lost 2-1 and I think you know quick quick he had his

Guy and they they couldn’t they couldn’t end up pulling that one out but the video was awesome the guy narrating was talking about the greatest goalie to ever wear a La King’s uniform kind of shocking he never won a vzna right in all the years he had but playoff time

Man when they were around and they could have won a couple more if it wasn’t for the Blackhawks those years it was those two back and forth for four or five years it felt like so just a cool thing and when I dog on the videos that people

Get when they come back that is not somebody I’m talking about that’s well-deserving and it was an amazing Run for the Kings with Jonathan Quick he did have a con Smite though right oh yeah yeah no but he both did he have both of them no Justin Williams 2014 Justin

Williams was the other one who won it crazy he was Unreal on both EI either way though both [ __ ] playoff runs uh all right couple last notes Here boys we we mentioned earlier I was down uh Charleston South Carolina I just flashback I was down September 2022 I

Film scenes from a movie with our buddy Jeff Zucker uh I met him out we were in Denver for the the Western Conference finals and you know guys we meet a lot of you know a lot of people on the road and have business guys and hey I got

This I got that and he come over and and introduced himself and and he said I’m I’m going to be work on a on a movie a small budget movie I’d like to have you involved and hey here’s my email and dude that Monday he had the script the

Contract all the all the legal Le and I asked around about him and everyone said this guy’s Aces he’s he’s a [ __ ] Dynamite person great guy and I I filmed my stuff a year and a half ago and then we had the cast and Cru screen and I

Flew down to Charleston this week and boys I I can’t [ __ ] wait for you guys to see this movie you know this isn’t like a student film that like 12 people going to see it’s going to be on Amazon most likely uh streaming and you I did

It back then I filmed tons of takes you never you don’t know what lines are going to make it you don’t know what what scenes are going to be in and and what you’ve seen once a upon of time in Hollywood right the Tarantino movie are

You comparing it to that already right I love this no no no no one no one scene remember remember the scene when when Maga Robbie goes to the movie theater to go see the movie She’s in yes so and then and then when she has the scene and

Everyone laughs and she looks around I I know what that feels like now because like the [ __ ] the couple of scenes I was in I everyone around me was laughing at what happened and it’s the [ __ ] best Buzz ever man like to have like some goofy [ __ ] you did to be on screen

And have everyone around you laugh it’s exactly what they felt like M Robie and that movie and that’s one tiny part of it like everybody involved Biz you know it was one professional actor I think in the whole movie and it reminded me like a 1990s independent film like the look

The feel to it and there’s never been a be League movie I think this is GNA be a huge hit uh it’s got a lot of hot it’s [ __ ] hilarious and boys I can’t wait for you to see it I was very happy with how it turned out I know Jeff Jacob Jeff

Jacobson saw it he said you were tremendous in it you were were you essentially the lead of the movie like did you have the most scenes of any person uh I was the second build person after the credit on the yeah on the what what you call the poster of the movie

You’re front and center R right yeah and like when it comes up you know the the opening credits the late game and it’s like starring you know Alex Roy and then like on the second name to come up I was like [ __ ] my P start yeah it’s [ __ ]

Wild Man and like I said it was ton of fun and and also to like the collaborative thing that you know there’s hundred people there that behind the camera in front of the camera that just worked on this thing and you you know you don’t know how it’s going to

Turn out and it come out and everybody was so happy and like you guys know Jeff socker he’s just an so he his family owned the South Carolina Sting Ray he’s got I think when when they owned it Bednar was actually the coach there right and I think they they have since

Sold majority of their stake there might be still minority owners but uh he was the one who was kicking tires on doing that uh Project in Colorado with the ECHL team doing one in Colorado Springs calling it The Big Horns I still think he’s trying and trying to get in with

That one arena there is that what the arena is called that one Arena so yeah he’s been so good to us and ra I’m glad that you got to connect and and continue your uh what’s the what’s the term that that when you’re an thespian your

Thespian ways so this this shy thing has really propelled your acting career again dude it it it really has I mean I can’t thank Jared enough but like it’s crazy because I mean just fig if Colorado didn’t go go to the [ __ ] that that Conference Finals or if we

Didn’t go on that trip I might might have never met him and things wouldn’t have fallen down in this way uh but it’s it’s wild dude I just to to look up and [ __ ] see a post note my name on it it was a ton of fun and yeah I hope it

Leads the much more and yeah shy season three that’s gonna be coming couple clicks for raan the thesbian Margot Robbie comparison I love it yeah no no just that SC but what’s good too like B it’s not like you know chy I’m obviously playing like an exaggerated version of

Myself and the how you know I look I’m a ghost you don’t see me I obviously played up for laps but this one was like yeah I really like had to be like a character and like kind of had had to dig in and like [ __ ] and I some

[ __ ] like pretentious as [ __ ] but like act it had to go like and be like a different person man and uh to see the respon to see the response it was a buzz I never had before and I I can’t wait for you boys and the audience and

Everyone else to see it but we we can move along I’m I’m Glo when it is available you can reention it uh and let everyone know let everyone know where they can watch it yeah yeah there there’s going to be a more formal Premiere coming up and it’s definitely

Going to be streaming we will keep everyone AR bre so I’ll shut up about it all right boys I’m probably gloating a little bit too much here but we do have a final note here uh we have a huge thank you and a huge goodbye to a good

Friend of ours uh Erica CEO at bosto she has left she she came to bostel she she kicked ass she took Dame she did what she had to do uh she brought this company to a level that uh nobody would have foreseen way back in the day and uh

It you know what’s it a rise and Tide lifts all boats well she was that tide who lifted all of us and uh we want to give her a fail a goodbye I’ll give it to you Whit I know you guys want to uh give her a few words as well yeah ER

Erica is an amazing person and and just her talking about what happened to Barcelo when she came there and how I think they had like exceeded their fiveyear plan within like 18 months or something absolutely crazy and just talking about the the dream Dave had and

How when she came in and how it kind of went above and beyond what they even could have imagined so it kind of makes sense once Dave bought back the company I think Erica probably realized that she’d move on at some point considering that they’d kind of done what they’d

Hoped to do and then some so without her who knows where we’re at and the coolest thing for us was that from the time I I met her and you’re the same BS like she always believed in in our show and our brand so much and I think anyone out

There with a job will tell you when your your boss is the one telling you that you can do this you guys can be even bigger like this is just the beginning like just it gives you an extra motivation and an extra confidence in terms of believing in what we could do

So without her we’re not nearly where we’re at bar stool isn’t where it’s at and she’s just an amazing person that we want to wish the best to you couldn’t have picked a more perfect person to take over a CEO looking back um just to kind of piggyback what you said like she

Never once put a governor on spit and chickle it’s like everything that we asked for in order to try to move forward and Excel and be better uh she gave it to us uh she’s a dog like even to the even to the point where sometimes

Like you know we would be in meetings and you know we would get into it and it’s you know I never like seen anything like that before I’ve never seen someone bark back at you like Erica the best and it was awesome and it made me love her

More and it made me realize that she should be the woman in that position so uh we can’t thank her enough I don’t know what’s next for Erica but wherever she goes she’s going to help bring them to the next level much like she did for

Bar stool and and helping us cuz we we talk about it all the time like I don’t think there’s any pink Whitney without Erica and dear dra Lester as well who ended up moving on like you know FDNY NYPD played a huge role chicklets Cup played a huge role every big thing we’ve

Done she’s been right there every step of the way encouraging us being like this can be bigger we can make more money off this let’s go all in on this which is like wit said it’s so encouraging well that that too right like these people who have helped

Solidify and helped us open up these channels to do chicklets cups or whatever it may be like she was part of that hiring proc process in order to bring those people on bar stool so those are resources that we were using from them and it goes even farther to like us

Wanting to do you know more sandbaggers like bringing on Posas a fulltime uh you know fish and Shawn like adding these types of players to our team and and and really allowing us to get there was all part of Erica’s help and we love her and

Uh you know we’re a little sad that she’s leaving but uh you know every good thing has to come to an end and I don’t know where she’s going to end up boys but uh they got a good one she’ll crush it yeah she’ll crush it so so thank you

All right well said boys and uh next time we talk to you we are going to be in Toronto Ontario next week we’re going to be bouncing all around we’re gonna actually have a a day late next week our podcast will be dropping Wednesday next week but the more the meria we’ll have

Some good stuff and the reason for that is we’re going to be recording on Tuesday all together we’re going to be at the Gretzky’s basement this popup they’ve launched uh if you want to go pre-order or pre-register your spot there I mean it’s filling up quick I

Don’t even know if they have any spots available but we’re going to be there on Tuesday and Wednesday and then I think it’s going to be open till the end of the week and uh it’s going to be a ball guys it’s going to be a [ __ ] show in

Toronto then we got King’s tap on Friday too King’s tap if you can’t make it there 5 to 6:30 p.m. that’s at 100 King Street West in Toronto we’ll be there at pink Whitney party it’s going to be an absolute blast and the live show too oh

We’re doing it we’re doing it with special guests we’re not going to tell you who’s going to be popping out but it will be a Gong Show all right guys thanks for listening love you all love you peace

43 Comments

  1. Pasha’s takes are worse than his eyebrows. Ask him if he’d rather have JT Miller at 8 million or Timo Meier for $8,800,00 with half the points.

  2. Patrick Roy is great for the islanders a lot of talent in nyi but let’s be real I’ve crushed so many unders in islanders games. Should get some fire going

  3. Whitt is a true legit oilers fan. I have said I hate the leafs and I'm never watching them again and they're just dogshit. But I am back every game lol It just means you're very passionate fan.

  4. i listened to this pod yesterday at work in my headphones ..thanx for getting me thru another tough day at the grind . ….cant wat for the next sandbager boys !!!

  5. Taylor and wills friendship is so deep u can just tell the way they have there only little laughter’s truly best of friends

  6. Nice pod but I wish they were just kinda talking shit telling stories this felt like more of an interview

  7. They have such good chemistry because they both basically had the same careers.

    Will & Biz grinder glue guys in the league.

    Taylor & Whit both high picks and signed for big deals. But never lived up to their full potential but still had respectable careers.

    Just the NHL & NFL versions lol

  8. People don’t understand how huge friars basketball is….. its keeps the school alive. Its everything to Providence. These guys fucking rock!!

  9. I've gone to the gym five-ish days a week for nearly 10 years and when the Boys were telling the Trump/Vegas story, it was the first time I've openly laughed at the gym. Like deep belly laugh. Maybe it was the delivery from Taylor, maybe that it's that I find Trump extremely funny for a multitude of reasons (my controversial take is that he should've run his own gossipy, celeb-talk-night show instead of running for president but that's neither here nor there), but it fucking sent me.

  10. lol @ whites vs blacks segment. they are like ya you gotta do like the safety 45 yards deep, you gotta drop 8 and rush 3, you gotta do some weird gadget plays like shifting 3 WRs from 1 side to the other and get them confused but you really are just still running the ball up the middle rofl had me dead.

  11. Whit, as a Bruins fan, i actually love the fact that people dont consider the Bruins as the best in the East. We'll just keep trucking along and being slighted. Seems to be going just fine that way…. Great content. Love hanging with you guys. 46 year old, husband, Dad, with no life outside of work. Nobody at work or in my family gives a shit about hockey, so I'll just hang with you guys. Sad, but thats all I got. 🤷

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