CFB Insider Bruce Feldman Talks Harbaugh, Alabama, Arch Manning & More w Rich Eisen | Full Interview

CFB Insider Bruce Feldman and Rich Eisen discuss Nick Saban’s surprising retirement and how Alabama found his successor in UW’s Kalen DeBoer, what the return of starting QB Quinn Ewers means for Arch Manning’s future with the Texas Longhorns, Jordan Love’s emergence from overlooked Utah State recruit to rising NFL star, the chances Jim Harbaugh snubs a return to the NFL to remain at Michigan, and the risk/reward of drafting USC quarterback Caleb Williams #1 overall.

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Bruce Feldman stopping by once again in his usual Wednesday spot and let’s start off the conversation with what you just revealed to the Roku Channel audience when you walked out of here last Wednesday you’re in the parking lot and you look down at your phone and what

Happened I missed a text from somebody saying hey just a heads up hearing that Sabin is going to retire tonight you should look into it well I made some calls nobody could confirm it at that point now what I think we knew was you know in retrospect was he wanted to tell

His team first once that happened then the news was fair game so was there any sense at all during the season that this could be his final always a speculation that that was going to happen at some point right that he eventually wants to

Go work at ESPN and be on TV and talk about the game and the grind of being a college football coach especially in this day and age with the transfer portal and nil and all the stuff that comes with it I think it’s exhausting and even for Nick Sabin and I think he

Knew this was a really good job he did from how bad the how un Alabama like the team was at the beginning of the year yes to what they were like to be a playoff team and almost make it to the championship game so do we know when he

Did you pinpoint when he knew did he you think he strolled on the sidelines to the Rose Bowl maybe looked around saying uh this is it does he know it there’s a funny moment that happened after the game so at the at Rose Bowl um I

Remember being with a CL bunch of people right outside the Michigan locker room and Sabin had just done his postgame press conference he comes down the ramp of the Rose BT in the golf cart really has to stop because there’s a cluster of people in the way who are you know kind

Of where the Michigan locker room is and he kind of looks and sees everybody and does this kind of like pageanty wave and gives this kind of half smile and I remember thinking well that was nauy expression I was expecting from Nick sain you I was kind of almost expecting

The the famous Urban Meyer loose to Michigan State Pizza Box look right where it’s just defeated and disgusted and all those other things and I was like that was a you know I remember the expression of Sabin and look you know I brought that up when I was trying to

Confirm last week I don’t know about 7 days ago at this time to somebody I was like I wonder if he knew at that point then I just coached my last game you know and my guess is he probably did right sure don’t you think yeah cuz I

Don’t think he was going back and forth on it you know to the end you don’t make a decision like that that you know reactionary but I I think he probably had to feel at that point this is it I mean you look at some of the reactions

In retrospect of people saw him around the game and I think it maybe is a little more foreshadowing than we probably could have imagined and and this may be naive to say but I I was kind of stunned that there wasn’t a handpicked successor you know that there

That there’s nobody on the staff that there was nobody from this group I mean like if it had gotten to the point where it got past kin dor we had heard that they were going to at least interview Tommy reesei offense coordinator but Tommy Reese is like just barely 30 and

The idea that you would replace him and Sabin had you know ideally you know the best coach out there is Kirby Smart who is his Protege but Kirby Smart’s got you know he played at Georgia he’s from Georgia he’s got a really good situation a great situation at Georgia and you

Don’t want to be the guy to replace Nick Sabin if you already got that I just think the you know if Sark was still the offensive coordinator I know the people inside Alabama really think highly of him and what he had done there but he’s

A Texas and in a lot of ways sarc has a better situation than if he were to come back to Alabama because at Texas he’s replacing Tom Herman at Alabama you were replacing the greatest coach of all time that’s just a heavy Shadow is that why they because again you just use the

Phrase getting past kayin dor I mean how how many coaches because it seems like they kicked that they they kicked a ton of tires here starting with Dan Lanning and then with sarkeesian and then with Mike Norvell and then they they got the Washington coach to say yes

Is that is that a fair assessment of the way this I know I I mean I know they like Dan Lanning he had been there you know but by the way you know Kor is three and0 against Dan laning no by the way I’m I’m not clearly clearly I I I

Saw what he with my own two eyes I think I think it was a case of this I think that they were really impressed by Kalin dor as more people found out about who he is and what he’s about um you know he’s the he was the one guy that really

Has no ties to the region I mean Mike norval had never coached in the SEC but he’s in Tallahassee of Florida State he coached at Memphis he’s obviously recruited in that footprint a lot um but by the same token two of the greatest coaches most successful coaches in recent history came to the

SEC with no secc experience one was Nick Sabin before he got to LSU and the other one was Urban Meyer before he got to Gainesville and those hires worked out really you know terrifically for those schools so I don’t know you know in sark’s case I think there was probably

Interest but I don’t know how far they actually got down would have got down the road with him uh Mike norell I think there were real conversations there I don’t know what the order of sequence is I’m sure in the Florida State Side they’re going to say Mike norell was the

Choice in the Alabama side they’re going to say yeah was we were always interested in more you know kayin debore was a guy we thought would be you know more ready to take on the responsibility of following Nick Sabin you know the Dan Lanning one Dan lanning’s deal and we

Reported this um after Sabin had stepped down his buyout is so big it’s way bigger than what has been reported um with just Oregon and so everything I know having been around him and and had a lot of conversations with him is that he really loves it up there he feels

Like he’s got a really good thing it seems like he’s got a really good thing Oregon’s got the nil piece figured out like that team I would say is to me would be the favorite to win the Big 10 in their first year based on what he has

Coming back sure so I don’t think he pulls I don’t think he was in a position to go hey I’m really coveting that job but I don’t I think a lot of stuff were not working out for for it to go in that direction anyway it’s just it just was

Kind of surprising to me that Alabama just didn’t get its pick because of it’s Alabama because of what and I know those are monsterized shoes to fill and you never want to be the guy after the guy but I mean I I I might want to live in

Alabama’s locker room you know what I mean like that’s there those facilities and one would think the support that they must have is second alignment piece of it that I’ve heard is different where if you’re a head coach someplace else you have to go through a lot of other

Stuff to maybe get something rubber stamped whereas certainly at Alabama when you’re Nick Sabin there wasn’t much of that resistance or or uh you know bureaucracy to weigh through so I think those situations were really good but again you know in a lot of ways I don’t

I don’t think the Gap is is significantly bigger at almost any of those programs by the way Texas is going into the SEC this year I mean again I think what Steve sarkeesian’s done there I think he kind of knew I’m rolling here why would I leave you know as opposed to

There um you know the the one that’s curious to me a little bit would be Florida State and Mike norell just because we know how much friction there’s been with the leadership at Florida State to try to get out from under the ACC and for Mike norell if he

Could have gone and I don’t honestly do not know if there was an offer I think those things are get caught into semantics and it’s unlike there’s a level of transparency that comes with the NFL protocols that there is none of that in college so and I think you know

Greg bur and the ad I think if you had asked him you know I’m sure he respects Mike norell I get the feeling he’s very you know the more time he spent around kayin the more dor the more he’s probably feels very confident he’s got the guy Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports in

The athletic here on the Rich Eisen show you just mentioned Texas Quinn yers announces he stay and I’ll be straight up I’m not looking to stir anything up here I really am not but straight up I would not have thought Arch Manning would go to a school where he would sit

For two years I just didn’t think that in a million years and that’s the way it looks like it’s going to be yeah is that really that’s cool like that there’s nothing I don’t think the your staying was a surprise to anybody you know like kind of who’ watched him cuz it wasn’t

There’s nobody I know and this goes back to coaches who played him this year who thought Quin ERS was going to come in and be a top 15 pick after what he did this year like he’s talented and he was hyped and significantly coming out of high school but I don’t think anybody

Looked at oh yeah he’s going to go in there and crush it and then he’s going to bounce as soon as he can to go to the NFL I mean this is a deep quarter back draft you know because you obviously have Caleb you have Drake may you have

The Heisman winner who’s made Leaps and Bounds at LSU since he’s been there and Jaden Daniels you have JJ McCarthy who’s definitely talented there’s a bunch of other guys in there who are really good quarterbacks I mean to think that Quinn yers would have you know maybe he would

Have been the fifth quarterback I don’t even know that oh this has nothing to do with Quinn Yu’s Choice it’s got to do with I never thought Arch Manning when he said he’s going to Texas would be sitting for two years I just didn’t think or that the Mannings would be cool

With it or that was part of the plan going in but then go to if that’s the case then go to a smaller program where your your competition isn’t as such where you’re like I think you know playing at the level he played at it wasn’t like he was playing at modern day

Or or St John bosow or one of these programs that is playing incredibly high level competition every week in high school football I mean everything I’d heard is Texas likes Arch Manning but you know he had a lot of area to grow in terms of consistency what they’d see

Practice to practice I think this is a really good thing for Arch Manning to sit for another year and keep developing because I I think if you know a different case would have been okay does he want to transfer to T Lane I’m not saying this was ever a mix like Tai

Thompson the former the backup at Oregon decided to go where you have a program where the quarterback who just came from there uh Michael PRI who I think will be a good NFL quarterback but like you know it’s home you’re at a good program right now there’s a really good coach in there

In John Sall and you can see what what happens but I think there’s a lot of quarterbacks when you are totally unproven in college football what you did in high school doesn’t carry that much weight no matter what your last name is I mean Malachy Nelson was a

Quarterback who ESPN ranked as the top uh player in that the last recruiting class was a festar guy went to USC he was n’t going to have um huge offers once he transferred out of USC because he didn’t have anything to show for it it wasn’t like they were raving about

What he did there he’s going to Boise State um you know the other guy who is a five-star guy who’s played more certainly more than Arch and Malachi Dante Moore but you know had a bunch of pick sixes in UCLA he’s going to Oregon but he’s going there knowing he’s going

To be the backup and he’s going to sit there for another year and just try to learn and develop so I think what’s happened in the portal is yeah it’s great you were a four or five star guy at a high school or it’s great you had

This big reputation but if you don’t have film in high from real College film I think people are like we need to see something from it before they’re going to say hey we trust you to you know run our run our program well listen uh

Obviously who who who am I to tell the Mannings uh about quarterback development obviously they are expert at that and certainly when it comes to one of their AC Flesh and Blood I am sure they know what is best I’m just again kind of surprised that Arch Manning

Would be sitting at some point he’s going to play right I mean he’s going to have to play and because we keep talking about of course Caleb Williams is going to declare of course I I get why JJ McCarthy is going right now because anybody who goes now starts the clock

Towards potentially excelling and getting that second contract that would make make nil money look like chump change in the NFL and who knows that better than the Mannings as well at some point Arch is going to have to start this clock you but I think unlike a lot

Of the other people were talking about I’m guessing and I don’t know their finances Arch Manning is not going to need to work to you know like they’ve got generational money already you know around him I think the best case for him is and obviously they know better than

Me but the best case for him is go somewhere where I can be developed and then I will be S like the other thing is Quinn has been banged up had shoulder injuries the last two years where he’s missed time so it’s not to say he can’t get on the field next year

I think the point is going to be keep learning keep developing because he definitely had way you know a lot of stuff to learn um and physically develop and then in 2025 you can be ready to hit the ground running um as opposed to all right I

Just need to get on the field because because I’m in some big hurry where I may you know take a two steps back to get on the field and then I’m someplace where maybe it’s not as good around me or maybe the system isn’t what we want I

Mean they obviously chose Texas for a reason and all those things are still in place and if anything I feel like the plan if you are objectively looking back going all right I’m more sold on my decision to go to Texas by the way Malik Murphy who’s like throws it better than

Both of those guys he’s transferred out like he’s no longer there he was the backup and so I think that cleared a path now if Malik Murphy had decided to stay then all of a sudden now is Arch the number three that would have been to

Me a bigger question mark But now that you know that has changed and I think as the number two you get more reps you certainly will be in position if um if Quin does get hurt again to be in in line to jump in and be ready um we

Already talked talked about strad with Daniel Jeremiah yesterday because we saw him at the combine and I guess the Georgia game you began to see flashes of what we’re seeing now right but other than that I mean he’s really taking his game to a new level but Jordan love we

Haven’t seen play football essentially in three years did did did you see some of this play when he was at Utah State there he’s a fun story and just like credit to to Matt Wells who was was his coach at Utah State they were the only

Ones who liked who were in on him and the things I’ve heard so his old trainer is now a high school coach in Texas and this guy has actually a big following among like youth training people and just Raves about Jordan’s not just his work ethic because again he was like 170

Pounds and scrawny as could be but just his commitment to it but also how humble and how um thankful and appreciative he was for people who worked with him on the process you know these guys are not you know Matt Wells is now as an assistant coach at Kansas State but it’s

Not like all of a sudden he’s come from this place where it’s a star Factory right you know he was the guy at Utah State they had a good program then um and then he kind of drifted into the radar and a lot of people were polarizing on Jordan love about whether

He was going to be that good there were a lot of people who didn’t think and I just know from the people I who were so rooting for him you I think it was a Thanksgiving weekend maybe game where Thanksgiving Day game he went off yeah

He did and there were so many people in his corner cuz they know what kind of guy he is never mind just like oh yeah they believed in him but they know when he got drafted you know he called them thank you in all in all is that right I love

Hearing that obviously because we like people hearing how guys who are excelling on the field are are people in that respect and I’m back on the Rich Eisen show radio network with Bruce Feldman still here um from Fox Sports in the athletic was telling a story on the

Roku Channel about what a good dude Jordan love is and and there was a video that was a photograph that went viral part of the game some that he helped someck some young lady stuck in the snow you know I guess he was walking out of the facility and somebody was stuck in

The snow in Green Bay and he helped her out of her situation and she just like took a selfie with the guy who helped and it just turned out to be Jordan love of the Packers is about to boat race the boys I knew the game was [Laughter]

Over you you know it’s pretty wild it just has like you know incredibly humble but still knows the place he came from and the people who cuz he was not most of these guys you know certainly not Josh Allen but most of these guys at some point were like the guy coming out

Of high school and everybody worshiped them and you know all these coaches woed them to get in the process that definitely wasn’t him you know was basically Matt Wells at Utah State and they were the only ones and he was a scrawny kid who did all the you know and

He still it’s not like he’s like jayen Herz where he’s this just like Powerhouse but I think he did all these things that people said hey um you know this will help you and worked along the way and I know from especially you know one of them who was like one of the

Trainers he had back then in in Utah just talked about how appreciative and would you know when he gets drafted hey I want to thank you for what you did for me you know I love that Utah State versus Iowa State on Saturday night for the right to go to the NFC championship

Game py versus love can’t make this stuff up man I got Bruce Feldman here on the Rich Eisen show what is going on with Jim Harbaugh right now what are you hearing back in Ann Arbor there’s a conversation about an indemnity clause that’s holding up a possibility of him I

Don’t know if it’s holding up a possibility like when I first heard that my thought was some of these things are seem so far fetch that would be like okay we’re going to put this out there that when we do move to the NFL we’re

Like hey they were not all in on then this I don’t understand why that would be necessary because I I don’t know a single Michigan Wolverine fan that would say when Jim Harbaugh steps to a Podium if he does in Los Angeles for the Chargers or Atlanta for the Falcons

Where he’s already interviewed or wherever would go how dare he do that I don’t know of a single one so why would that be a track covering situation that leads me to believe that this is legit like he does want to go back to Michigan and something it doesn’t seem like this

Is a straw man of a of a a clause situation Jim Harbaugh has always been wildly unpredictable right and you know you hear Rumblings of people there I think it’s cautiously optimistic saying oh Jim wants to come back MH Jim is absolutely kicking the tires on the NFL

Right now whether it’s the Chargers or the Falcons or you know who you know how many other if the Cowboys pop free right I mean yeah I mean does he want to be there I mean I think the questions are going to be um you know does is this something that’s going to

Wrap up anytime soon like is it going to be something that’s going to you know it’s not like if it’s a college thing it’s like hey we got to hire somebody who can’t have an open job because the transfer portal we’re going to lose players this is the NFL it’s like a

Different calendar Al together so I think you’re Michigan you you just got to be patient with it and know hey if it if he does leave we got shron Moore who’s beaten Ohio State be one at Penn State the players Revere him the people around inside the program rever him and

That would be a really good backup plan um what is the clause about what are you hearing I mean what what is this he wants full Indemnity if something pops up with the NCAA yeah and I think the tricky part on that to me is that the with the NCA you are

Accountable if you’re the head coach for people under you the staff is 50 people you know so if there is something there now last week Florida state had something where their offensive coordinator and this is Portal related got hit pretty hard and it was like wait a minute this isn’t exactly

How the NCA language usually goes towards the head coach it was like really more the offensive coordinator got dinged for something which I think a lot of people felt like was the NCA was trying to make an example of him and them so there’s so many eyeballs on the ille illegal signal stealing

Investigation you know by the same token Jim Harbaugh served a big suspension like three games I think so yeah but I mean it was a backloaded schedule it wasn’t like he did not get hit hard by this by the Big 10 so who knows what is

Going to come from that um you know and I again I it’s it’s hard to unwind at this point I just think that you know he’s going to sit here and and look and say okay what’s my best option here do I do I

Really want to be back in the NFL and do I think I can lead this team to a Super Bowl can I lead this franchise to a Super Bowl I ultimately think that’s where he’s going to end up you do yeah I do just cuz he I mean he it’s not like

They lost to Washington he won the national title can you say that again it was just so great that you just I’m sorry yes no but I I understand what you’re saying but I also understand that if he does go back I mean sabin’s gone right yeah he has an opportunity if he

Wants to spend the next 10 years his final 10 years coaching if that if he doesn’t want to coach till he 70 um he could wind up like Bo you know what I mean but Bo didn’t win a National I’m say what I’m saying is what what but

What I’m saying is not he could be as revered on campus or Sy who is the greatest football coach in the history of Michigan you mean in the history I I obviously it’s both I mean there’s it’s Shen Beckler Hall and there’s a well I mean Fielding yoast you want to go you

Want to go way back here you know honestly like he can be viewed as the the current best college coach there is because he’s one right now s’s gone has got two yeah so but but he put himself you know and and and honestly if you want to continue saying you know the

Number of uh Georgia bu fans that I know in my life you know who or people who would know Georgia Bulldog fans in my life who have been very um I think uh respectful of my uh feelings of of excitement that they all do want to say

Well you know there is the best team in college football that won the last two that somehow got you know jobed out of not getting into the final four like good luck be I mean good luck beating us we lost to Alabama those things happen I mean so you can have these arguments

About there’s still things to do at Michigan and uh I understand though that if he feels that the NCW is out to get him and that there may be a particular individual from Michigan’s past that sits on an infractions committee that has something out to get him for that he

Wants some form of a codified protection in a plan if he does come back I don’t think that’s happening though I don’t know how they do that carve out I you know again the people I talked to who were closest to Jim Harbaugh this is

Going back a month or so so the biggest thing burning in him would be a Super Bowl and you can’t get that in an arbor anymore you just you know it’s like he has to go to the NFL he’s going to do it he came really close before you know

Again I wouldn’t be shocked if he stayed but I’d be really surprised I mean given now it’d be different if they didn’t win the national title last year if they came close and they lost to Washington but he’s won it you were going out on top you dominated the Big 10 you beat

Beat Ohio state three times in a row I mean I don’t think like there’s there’s no bigger way for him to leave if you’re going to go to the NFL like it that’s true you know I feel like he said a couple years ago when the Vikings thing

Did not work out on Signing Day you know I’m done looking or whatever yeah and then he interviewed last year and was in the mix for the Broncos that’s part and partial though and the crazy thing is every single one of us in in Wolverine you know fandom was just like it’s going

To cost how are we going to get a team on the field how kids going to stay how are we going to win and and uh the dream the dream the dream came true it’s unbelievable Bruce felin few more minutes left uh with Fox Sports and Athletics Bruce Feldman here Caleb

Williams waited it seemed like to the last second to process his papers was was there anything going on no I think his dad had some thoughts on how he thought this should work what do you mean I don’t know there was always chatter about like can we get ownership

Of a team in process there just a lot of stuff where it’s like yeah danl doesn’t work that way way um so they were they thought there was a leverage play in him in going pro there was also a part of it like do I want to go there you know you

Mentioned the Mannings before like obviously that that happened whatever it was 30 years ago no it it’s with the Chargers and and they got him to New York but at this point in time the Bears hold the pick and his their son is so talented I mean I mean Caleb is so

Talented like he is but he’s going to be a bear man I think he’s going to be a bear yeah and we’ll you know like I think the challenge would be do if you come back to UFC you just went seven and five and you were playing behind a

Really mediocre offensive line I don’t think that offensive line is going to be significantly better right so yeah you’re you’re living in La you’re taken care of on the nil front but if you want to go play in the NFL um you already want a

Heisman I mean this is oh I I it made no it made no sense to stay put it made just zero sense he didn’t play in his bowl game or he wasn’t I don’t think he ever was going okay so then he waited to the last second and now I mean doesn’t

That happen all the time though guys like usually like wait play up the drama I definitely think I don’t know I mean Marvin Harrison Jr did it last week I mean JJ McCarthy did it Sunday I think he he waited until after they were finished with their celebrations and

What have you um I don’t recall somebody who was the 1,000% in my mind with all due respect to Drake May and whoever’s mock drafting him won I don’t I don’t recall anybody who was for the Shire first overall best like Trevor weight did he I don’t

Remember they also did the had a lot of drama around his movement after he left Oklahoma you know it was like Hey we’re going to go we’re talking to chip Kell at UCLA good by the way good luck on the uh nil front with anything you’re trying

To get out of UCLA but also then it was like hey there’s a coach that we know in Wisconsin who’s going to be the offensive coordinator and there was you know chatter about that like it didn’t wasn’t very um like Smooth it was just there was a lot

Of there was a kind of a bumpy ride before he ended up reuniting with Lincoln Riley which seemed like it was going to be the obvious move so what are we going to hear what are the red the silly red flags we’re going to hear in

Regards to him so you know how it works you know how this works what are we going to hear probably the silliest one I would imagine will be oh he paints his fingernails I I mean it’s like he cried in his mother’s arms or something like that something silly like that when he

Was all upset about losing yeah that I’m sure that’ll get that’ll become a thing for a day or so I mean he’s super talented everybody everybody I know who’s worked with him thinks he’s really bright really really bright he’s physically strong he’s done everything to get himself ready for this um I just

Think you know it’s going in the NFL and half the guys who they take more than half you know when it comes to quarterbacks don’t live up to what they’re doing some of it circumstance and it’s some of it’s like the adversity that you’ve never had before to that

Degree when it’s real than when you’re you know a trying to be the face of a franchise um you know I don’t again physically I don’t think they can ding him for anything yeah you know like I just think you you know I’m sure one day somebody

Will will bring up oh here’s the shots of him in the crowd with it you know his mom sobbing after a game it’s like look the guy’s you know really um you know like invested in his program and everything there I have a problem with that by by any stretch of the

Imagination it’s just again the question is going to be does he look at the Bears and say because they blew out their offensive staff right and that’s the first thing they’re going to have to do they’re going to to fill out that staff you you go go bring Cliff Kingsbury in

To run the offense yes I mean why wouldn’t you why wouldn’t you at least consider consider it would he do it uh that’s a great idea I mean yeah set it up for him and the minute you because you you’re going to have to hire a staff

Fast there’s a bunch of people there’s a bunch of teams that need OC’s right now in the NFL so you’re going to have to go and fill that thing out fast and that is going to inform us I think on what their decision is going to be Daniel Jeremiah

Thinks it’s absolutely Caleb Williams and I trust him I my my two eyes say it’s absolutely Caleb Williams um the eye in the sky tells me it’s Caleb Williams maybe you got second round pick uh for Justin Justin I think that’s High I mean they might I I think

They’d be lucky to get that depends on what bellich wants to do in Atlanta by the way you know the biggest you mentioned CJ strad a minute ago the biggest CJ strad um sleuth or whatever the one who was on to it way before is DJ’s podcast buddy Bucky wow Bucky

Coached him you know when he was in high school and saw him just kind of thrive so credit to Bucky cuz I think he would have wanted been jumping on the Granger desk more than anybody look at him I’ve heard this thing all your podast is

Brought you by Trader Jones heard it all all year well you know what I’m selling soap too brother uh thanks for coming on thanks Rob you are the man that’s Bruce Felman right here on the rich E and Sh ready check out his pod and check out

His writing in the athletic and then when he’s back on Fox Sports he will let us know hour number three Dolph lungren is in our Green Room is he really oh yeah Dolph lunden’s here he’s next he must break you Bruce see well you’re not done yet we still have two more minutes

Here we’re still alive he has that’s right you don’t usually stick around to the end of the hour was a huge thing for like we’re the same age yeah when he or that generation when Rocky came out is Dolph is he here yet is he physically

Here I’m not sure actually I don’t know he might he might I think he you might be crossing paths he may break about that he’s got a new movie out that he’s co-written and he produced uced it and he directed it he’s in it and then he’s

Got a I can’t wait to talk about this with him he’s got a new series that debuts tonight on the maximum effort Channel called flip a coin where he does he flips a coin for 30 minutes and I can’t I I mean it’s you just flipped the coin right

There you’re not selling the soap very good on seriously I’m seriously he flips a coin for 30 minutes Mal arriman his fellow swed uh she she she um narrates it been heads three times in a row oh my God so yeah he’s coming in here uh and

Please you know we’re we’re going to have you as much as you’re willing to come in here because there’s still so much to talk about with this draft because you know you know at some point uh Drake May is gonna he’s GNA get pushed up being talked about he’s worthy

Of being number one overall too I think jayen Daniels will get hyped up I’m sure that’s going to happen by the way Cliff kingsbery going to be the OC in Chicago why would would you not like that if you were a bearish man hell yeah you take

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