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Messi vs Haaland, Bruno’s Freedom, FFP & De Bruyne Returns | Stick to Football EP 15



Welcome back to Stick To Football with Gary Neville, Jamie Carragher, Jill Scott, Ian Wright and Roy Keane – the original show from the award-winning The Overlap, brought to you by Sky Bet.

We kick things off with the aftermath of Tottenham’s draw at Manchester United and how Gary caused a stir by arguing Spurs could finish above Liverpool by the end of the season whilst Roy remains unconvinced with the praise on Ange Postecoglou’s side.

The halfway point passed in the Premier League season, so we discuss who has been the best player as Jamie singles out Kevin de Bruyne as one of the best midfielders the competition has seen after his heroic return from injury when Manchester City overcame Newcastle.

Earlier this week Ian and Jill attended the FIFA The Best Awards and discussed whether Lionel Messi deserved his award of Men’s Player of the Year. We also relive Roy’s 2000 PFA Award ceremony and whether his teammates turned up and the politics behind voting procedures.

We discuss the latest on the Premier League charges on Everton and Nottingham Forest and what it will mean to both clubs and the impending hearing on Manchester City.

Super 6 also returns with Ben… has Roy managed to reduce the deficit or has Gary pulled further ahead?

And we end with your Community Question: Why has Erik Ten Hag not implemented a style of play at Manchester United yet?

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Chaptering
00:00 Behind the scenes
08:23 Intro
08:36 Where will Tottenham Hotspur finish in the Premier League?
14:10 Ian on Arsenal
16:53 What makes a clinical striker?
22:50 Kevin De Bruyne’s heroic Manchester City return
26:17 Awards ceremonies
29:41 2000 PFA Player Awards
33:33 How players voted
34:28 Premier League Player of the Season so far
36:28 Everton & Nottingham Forest charges and implications on Manchester City
48:54 Super 6
59:07 Footballers tattoos
01:02:17 Why hasn’t Erik Ten Hag implemented a style of play at Manchester United?

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If you were picking an alltime Premier League 11 I think he gets in I think it’s in the interest of City actually and everybody to bring that case forward it can’t go on it can’t go cuz it is damaging to the Premier League and the game General I hope it wasn’t my wages

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Farm all together now I thought that was a good good Liverpool fans as well P massive Liverpool fans that was a good I like the farm the farm all together now all what that one yeah they don’t know what why would they done ever you through a big liverp

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See how much tea they drink they’re nice them pots aren’t they I think I need some makeup you I’ve got a rash I’ve had a rush on me eye now for about why 10 weeks you know what is I know what it is say stress 100% you’re working too

Hard% you were working too M by look that’s your body your body’s telling you something you always eight weeks have had it no you always have something I’m always have you slowed down have you slowed down looking got a rash or cold in the gy what are you doing your body your body’s

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Up what did you say they’re telling them to up go get some more work done what have you on this weekend where you must be traveling this weekend I’ve got no games on where you going weekend off any you going to do you’re staying at home

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Yeah look like sail hat that one yeah that’s what I was thinking it is it’s kind of it is a sailor I like I like the pattern I’ve got a jacket like this as well which I like wearing but obviously it’s too cold at the minute but I love

This pattern let me see your back what is it actually it’s a nice Hood it’s like a ghost my dis way it’s like a ghost it’s a ghost I don’t know why Jo it’s not me it it’s not a case of not you never worry about whether it’s you

Or not if you do you like what you’ve bought there because like you can’t see the patterns so do you like like hoodies I like so you like it maybe it was to be fair me thinking I’m going to take a risk a little bit Yeah but it’s a hoodie

Yeah that’s the only risk you’ve taken you’ve got a silly face on the back of it you haven’t taken a risk if you was going to come here with a a shirt open shirt with a medallion that’s taking a risk I mean this is open shirt Medallion

Open shirt Med you say your baras in London yeah so you won’t get your haircut anywhere else oh no no just you one of them do you know what no it’s nothing to do with that what it is like I can’t during the day I just can’t

Think I’ve got to take an hour and a half out my day for a haircut so when I go from the station at Houston and I walk to the hotel or get to the hotel I just stoping the B the barber thing in so on the way get me haircut and go he

Do it in 15 minutes 20 minutes can tell it’s just it’s just ease I like it I like the I like the silver foxy Vibe at the silver a fox 60 quid it doesn’t in London yeah is that cheap or expensive cheap that cheap for man’s haircut in

London 60 gr is that that’s a lot that for hair is it 60 you think how often did you cut your hair J uh two three weeks do you know I heard I heard that is that long or not what you think should be any longer than

That I know how was it James did you have a great time are just the lads now the footballers they have it done every week once a week yeah so on I’m talking to them about like Thailand man because like I could see the chilled vibing you I could see a

Nice like yeah I’m chilled relaxed yeah you were over there a long time weren’t you two weeks that’s beautiful did you get to because you know you get there if if it’s like I don’t like doing a week anywhere I have to do 10 days or two

Weeks CU if I do a week after the third day I’m already start thinking about I’m packing up get I can’t relax I need to have that week and then I start thinking about packing the two weeks is a long it is a long I was away for about a month did

Two weeks is too long why did did the menu just at the same things on the menu after while I see just T have you been away was it hot didn’t you go scheme what was that like yeah it’s nice did you to over there every everywhere you

Went just Premier League Football on every everywhere that was a bank on Sunday two draws F Everton United Spurs Spurs done all right but after the game was like yeah sure yeah over the top stuff by oh yeah he’s been getting a little bit on social media agressive he’s gone with Spar finishing

Oh is that what it is why you running from that why you running from that he call is he call I said if Spurs get their players and keep them fit with the clear run they’ve got they could do something special special what about they

Could what M been his mob have been on at yeah but that’s yeah but you know Liverpool as far as drew two with United they’ve lost United last nine games League games Bourn at one there about two or three weeks or three nil and Spurs are buzzing with a draw yeah that

Was my point Gary simple what buzzing with have Jo United SP everyone was the Spurs were amazing Spurs they had they had the best players missing like five or six the best players and dominated POS and dominated it that was the that was the surprise you know what’s really important in

Football Gary really important the score look at 22 it doesn’t matter who’s missing Clive Aden Glenn hard uned missing players and United are poor so I just think to sometimes you could have put a market on and go and beat United come away and go we played really

Well we drew so they were behind twice they’re missing a load of players it’s a big result for Spurs this what Spurs didn’t one day about two weeks ago Tre nil born it yeah yeah so what we we weren going to start we weren going to

Start we’ll just carry on now to be fair this was going to be the third topic we disc sorry sorry to be fair it’s obviously bugging him I know Welcome to stick to football brought to you by skybe and this week we’re going to talk about where Tottenham are going to finish this season ffp the world FIFA Awards and a little bit about style of play with Eric tenh har and Bruno Fernandez I made a statement that I

Think Tottenham with the five players back who are tulisi son um what’ you call Madison keski okay son um Madison s s those five players back if they kept them fit with a clear run they’re going to have I said they could they could push Arsenal Liverpool for that sort of

Like second play I I I genuinely think that could happen yes I think that could happen is that a m is that a mad statement No I but you said something uh about them if they go out the FA Cup it’s like no why did they they said that

With ARs last year the likelihood is they could go out the FA Cup they could have a completely clear run what’s this clear run if if you’re if you’re in the league and the FA Cup only there’s only two there’s only I think only the quarterfinals and semi-finals you have

To rearrange League games so but but what I’m saying if they were to go out of the FA Cup would it be the end of the world for them if they went no it wouldn’t be I’m not saying they W who I’m just saying would it be the end of

The world concentrate on the league no it would he said that everyone said that about Arsenal last year it’s good for Arsenal to be out of the FA Cup the wheels came off Arsenal anyway they ran out of team so this idea that you’re going going out of competitions are

Getting beaten in matches is good for your Club yeah but the thing if still still in Europe yeah there’s different demands just order to matter but with to yeah but Tottenham if they are out of it and they have got a clear run at at the Premier League with the it’s just the

Games they don’t have to play they don’t have to use you got a g they haven’t really right what happened to ARS last year when they were on and everyone said AR ARS ran out of steam yeah we did run out of steam we couldn’t do it we

Couldn’t we couldn’t get it going but games you play Tottenham don’t need to be off the FA Cup because the fa the FA Cup is not like a midweek thing where you go oh we’ve got a an game in another couple days fa cups at the weekend it’s

Only when you get to the semi-final you might have to rearrange one League game Liverpool have L got a lot going on obviously Arsenal have got a lot going on City obviously will have a lot going on and it just could be that they could with that team that they’ve got if they

Get the five players fit I just said they could have something what’s made you change your mind because early on in this the reverse fixture at why tottenham’s ground you said POA cogu didn’t know he’s put his fullbacks in mid you did you did you did analysis on

It you said these managers got fullbacks that’s two games into the season four five question weak two games no no no I didn’t question him as all they missed each other I said to be fair and by the way they’re not doing it now they’re not doing it now oh what’s happened to

ANB never got into your head porro and a doggy are not receiving it on the edge of their own box anymore let’s be clear they receiving on the edge of the Box in that game and getting dispossessed right and rashford was going in and I can’t remember who else was dispossessing

They’re not receiving it there now you know they’re not receiving they received another 20 30 yards up the pitch you know that anyway going back to that was two games in I think Tottenham now are in a position they could and I’m not saying they will they could push and dismantle

Villa Liverpool and arsal they could I they could say could yeah but that it’s not a ridiculous statement is it no one said it was a ridiculous statement who who’s mob who’s mob what mob Li Liverpool F harer and the fans on Twitter you know I mean yeah yeah yeah

Right when is Madison back actually he is a big it’s meant to be this month it next few weeks that’ll be like having a new sign him War it I think Hey listen he was doing care to start don’t be oh no I’m telling you I swear to God Spar

Have still how many games have Spar lost by Spar have lost five games haven’t he hey he must have brightened two weeks ago three weeks ago doing all right I think he’s a good player I don’t not not as good as everyone’s making out who’s making out who who’s not what do you

Mean youing out I like he’s a good player but I don’t think it’s like a de brine coming back from yeah we’re talking about de BR but Madison for what he is he’s he’s exceptional in that position for me madon what he does yeah the only the only problem he’s having is

That he just keeps picking up these inj oh right which is really important if you’re a professional footballer what injuries well yeah yeah he’s he’s missing games yeah but he’s missing games but it’s not doesn’t has got anything to do with the fact that he’s

Not a very very good player if he was playing if he was playing more frequently we’d probably see even better performances from him I I don’t see Tottenham finishing Liverpool or Arsenal I just don’t you know no I don’t I see that what’s your prediction for them for

Tottenham yeah uh I think they be bam with Aston Villa for that for they could be top five this season could have but I think they’d be in a battle with Villa we we need to at some we need to sort out the the taken of chances you know I

Know I know you’re going to start just finish I can feel him I just felt him in my energy big of football Tak yeah absolutely abely why I’m not why I’m not so fast your boot we need your gold I’m not so why I’m not so fast it’s because again

We’re creating chances if it was if we weren’t creating them it’d be a massive problem we now we got four players who are are just not firing that doesn’t that’s an anomaly it shouldn’t be happening so you hope that that kicks in if that doesn’t kick in soon then you

Got to worry watch change if they are fighting scor if they start taking chances you would say last season they were fighting we we looked at this on U I think the last mon Night Football we did so last season they all get about 15 or 16 goals this season they’re well

Down but is them all fire enough to still win the league who us now yeah no that’s what I’m saying so when you saying they’re not fight last season and it still wasn’t yeah but the thing is this season yeah no but the thing is is that defensively

We’re we we’ve been a lot better this season right so if we had two of them at least two of them at least in some of the games that we should have finished off and should have won or should have scored in we’ probably win those games where you haven’t played brilliantly you

Just defended what and you’ve got somebody who’s taken the chance but you know when you say you’re better defensively and you’re better defensively because because to the detriment of your attack it’s not like oh we both a better Defender we’re a bit more controlled we’re a bit more

Defensive so then that’s actually taken a little bit away but I think yeah but the thing is is that defensively obviously having Dean rice in there having celba fit you know those two in particular um defensively have made us stronger but what’s happening is is that I don’t believe we’re getting the ball

Into an erig Go’s off form into sack’s like the same kind of form same with Martinelli so what’s happening is is that the play up to there is okay but then we’re not being able to make things happen up in the top end of the field and I think that’s because we’re

Defending he say it’s not going to be enough we were firing all cylinders it was proven last season in that first half of the season I think you were at 51 or 52 points something stupid if you do fire in all cylinders and you go on

That type of run you do that you will win the league so my point is that that team last season played in the first four months five months that I don’t was it 52 points they got 50 off to the first 57 point yeah so my point is if

They do that I don’t not saying they will it doesn’t look like the gun we need to do that yeah but what I’m saying to that this they could flip the seasons and almost like or flip the half of the seasons and last season obviously they

Fell apart in the last part it could be actually now they do do that and all of a sudden do fire in all I don’t know but if they did then they would be getting I I think that if we if we were taking some of those chances even though we

Haven’t played brilliantly the way we’ve been defending defending a lot better we we’ we’ Nick a couple more games one n here 21 there and we we’d be feeling a lot better but at the moment people are feeling a little bit negative because you know what I mean we’ve Lo we’ve lost

A few games and we don’t look like we’re going to score no they got the FA Cup oh no they all the fa that was a bad you think it was a bad one I was expecting Liverpool to win at arsenal were you no I actually I I was

Thinking Liverpool I thought klopp would make more changes to be honest I I was surprised klopp sort of played the team that he did because obviously were playing midweek in the in the carbal cup semi-final but he went really strong you know something again we played unbelievably in that came you know so

I’m going to walk out if you don’t stop smirking at me out the side of your face like that but you know what stats I like you know know when people talk about creating loads of chances I like when teams create two chances to score two

Goals yeah I like that I wish we’ do that I wish we could do that but like even in that Liverpool game you know what I mean we should have that game should we should have had that done we could have had that done and in the end

You can’t give that kind of team you know you can’t give them that kind of chance you know where you don’t finish him off man do you know as a striker does a play on your mind when people are saying oh they’re not finishing the chances and stuff like that because

Sometimes I would find that Strikers would then put themselves under more pressure practicing more in training and I’d feel like when they were relaxed and just enjoying the football that’ finish them would it play on your mind when people are saying oh the striker on scoring and would it then make you more

Tense in the games um obviously not me Jill I can’t speak for myself how long you went on without probably about six games I think only for probably about six that kind of time but it wasn’t it was a time where I didn’t worry about it because I just simply done the same

Things in training I didn’t try any harder yeah you just try to finish you just try to do the stuff like you know like I saw at chance when when we when the Man United game against wig that’s the kind of stuff where you’re just hoping that you can get a clean one

Where it comes across and you can do the natural thing bam just head it in get your goal yeah you know the same like you want something like a dominant C Cal lein chance where you run through so you could go through and you finish what did

He do wrong there that I think that um for you I when he when he ran through because people say things like um people say things like why we practicing why we doing this in training we never get these in training because the top players you want those you want to know

And you want to be in that situation he was going straight and I think at some stage he’s either got to go off to to the right or to the left to move the goalkeeper because when you looked at Martinez when it broke Martinez was actually turning looking at his goal

Right in that moment he’s got to get himself into a situation where he gives himself an angle either have side so then you could go so the goalkeepers then got to get back there then he’s got to say okay where am I then you finish

Or down there or around the side or if you’re going to go straight and you open your body up you have to lift it over the training leg there was so much goal outside he actually didn’t even need to lift it over the trailing leg I remember

One I had with with Liverpool David James I thought oh God he’s never going to go down and you keep going but the main thing is you lift it it just hit him in the top and it still went in I thought that Cal L was going to lift it

Because he didn’t go right or left and if you’re going straight a goalkeeper who’s waiting for you to make a mistake simply because he’s in no man’s land it’s up to you that’s why you see the top player you see a Harry Kane or a Salah or or something like that go

Through go through and then bam you say that was easy because the goalkeeper can’t do anything unless you make a mistake the time is the enemy for the striker is it certain Striker it for certain stri did you wait for the goalkeeper to move or what what are you

Talking about when you’re going through on goal oneon-one and it must feel like time Stood Still cuz like you obviously the whole crowd are watching you do you are you waiting for the goalkeeper to move or have you made your mind up before no no no because when you’re

Going through it’s it’s the the the scenar arios are coming all the time the goalie’s got to move he’s got to do something he’s got to make see if you miss a shot you’ve got to see where that space is can I whip it in there and you

Say oh that was a clinical finish can you get close enough to maybe go go around him and put it in the the the the scenario is always changing but you can’t be changing in your head simply because so your of stays the same if I

Especially if I go if I go in and I come in off off the coming off the left and I’m cutting in I know that my finish ideally depending on where the goalkeeper is I’m going to try and whip it around him you know what I mean it’s

One of those you can you can give the eyes depends on how confident is that cuz you’re a natural finisher there is a difference isn’t it I know you can practice you cana you see certain players you go it just seems more natural to him a lot of players in

Different did you f him when when you saw that when when you saw him go through no not really when you when you saw it and you saw it m space did you fancy him going through no and JZ similarly you wouldn’t know what you were going to get this is exactly what

It is and this is why this is why the top guys yeah the top guys when you go through like that you go go you go go but like that’s what you want to be that’s what Calvin Calvin Le that’s another level up then isn’t it that’s

Another yeah but that comes down to training and out in training what I used to do and I’ve done it religiously if I missed in training it was I felt like it was a missing in a game yeah because what I don’t like to see is where at the

Start of the games you know when they’re doing the side go and the goal and you see them finishing and they’re just coming up that’s you’re getting ready to play this is the time where you don’t miss the Target and you do it in game

Mode in your head and that’s how I train would you be fum after training if you hadn’t scored you know you have 111 some of the lads we walk you know to be fuming after a training game if they hadn’t scored which Striker would you put your mortgage on one on one actually

Going through like that somebody I played with or you’d want rude rude yeah okay o Ole out would back as well on finishing yeah rude rud gone true one one goalkeeper I i’ scor I’d have I’d have I’d have Rooney as well Michael Owen bro when you said that it made me

Think of a f man Kan the both of them I I I didn’t fancy calv L you’re saying that before I just I think when you’re running straight at someone you always need I mean I’m a Defender but the amount of times I think of sort of

Robbie just get even just like half yard half yard can cuz I just think when you go straight there’s not that many it’s like taking a pen a player goes up too straight at a pen it looks just a bit around the thing is is that when and the

Goalkeeper knows as well if you’re straight he’s a big man ra is it you have to give him a little bit of credit no the goal I think if he’s running up you’re look he’s a big man in you’re look yeah but still still the

The space is there and it’s up to you because like again you when you go through like I say like Cal lein and if you are straight remember the goalkeeper as Dave Seaman used to always say at some stage you’re going to have to do something to create the angle so then

Something’s going to he’s going to he’s going to you’re going to have to do something so that’s going to give him an extra time to come forward a bit more maybe but like that’s why you want to get the angle first so when you’re running in that’s why I know was me m

That’s why I always still blame M for that goal honest to God the bar Denver bar was so straight going through Let It Go J there was nowhere else he could put it except through his leg because that’s the one where Stevie slipped the one

Yeah but it’s like z b was so straight on goal I think it’s difficult to score I mean the only thing he could do is put it through the keep but I think the keep there’s no there’s nowhere else he can go Liverpool would have won a champions

League and a league wouldn’t they if they had Allison a couple of Seasons earlier they would have won yeah they would have done I mean just one more thing on this sort of to around Arsenal Tottenham obviously Liverpool did it feel ominous I felt I watching Newcastle

And Manchester City at the weekend in the 2-1 it felt ominous it was like I’m not going to change my prediction for the league because you don’t do that your prediction but it just felt oh yeah yeah I think City you just that always gather the momentum at the right time

Don’t they oh Kevin De bruy to come back after that long out and to perform how he did I seen he did an interview and he was like look I’m being realistic I’m not ready for 90 minutes but but I know I can perform at the top of my game for

2025 but even his finish I thought it was such a straight shot I thought he was going to like whip it and I’m like a just he knew what he was doing as well he knew what he was do you know was again with the Finish is so underrated

Because remember he’s not blasted that he’s placed that from TW like the edge yeah right that’s just game knowledge knowing where the guy in front of him is knowing where the goalkeeper is unsighted and just that’s why he’s great he is one of the best players we’ve ever

Seen you know something he could probably go down he probably yeah he’s right in there with the best now and you can see the reaction from the other players as well after even after the end of the game or the goals you could see with them the celebrations obviously

There Nots a big result of but they’re looking at him going we are as brilliant as they are but we are so your back is he he’s great because the great like they impact the game yeah you know he impacted the game you know you cannot

Give him look at the pass what he done for that B who scores unbelievable goal by the way but we’re still we still Kevin De br’s pass I’m Tri got yeah but at the same time right we we could say defending but where he’s put that ball

And for him for him to control it and finish it in with quick feet all elitism it’s all I think de bruyne I’ve just said one of the best players I I think if you were picking an alltime Premier League 11 I think he gets in and I think

Of the players City have had going back to manini’s time and you think of sort of like that the out of sort of company té Aguero Silva was there he’s he’s above them all I think he’s above them all I think he’s a player you know when sometimes they say

You play midfield and a run will make a pass you see someone make a run so you make the pass I think he makes the pass make the Run he’s almost like go on like that’s where you should be and I I just think because city is so well drilled he

Just steps back in it’s like he’s never been away he knows the allall inside out and I think it’s just such a joy to kind of be be able to watch him at the moment very lucky that he’s in the league yeah yeah yeah it’s great to see him back

Like that do you like his hair though I do like his hair yeah I you know why I like his hair because somewhere along the line he said I’m going to change my hair man I’m going to do big thing to change your hair how do

That again I like the fact we’re talking about fact I’ve never changed my hair I love that I love the fact that he’s changed it because you can see that he’s he’s confident enough in himself to say I don’t care I’m change my hair and

I I think it kind of looks cool on him if you walk up in curtains that would yeah I’m talking was a player I’ve never changed I used to have K and I was about 14 yeah C and I used to have a spike and I was about 10 do you remember

To play Paul bracewell he played forever yes yeah left foot yeah he had like a spikes was started get me AG yelled the league bring the curtains back if Liverpool win the league I’ll bring the curtains Back how was the uh was it feif pro or no no no the best for the best for the best Awards how was it nice it wasn’t a long one it was it a short one London it was in um was in bar was it not it was

Hammer Smith it was down H down in Hammer Smith I think Messi was in Hammer Smith Messi didn’t go he didn’t come Messi didn’t come I’m surprised well I want to talk I want to talk about that because to be honest I think that I think the honor System in this country

Is a joke but I think actually the sort of had one I seriously think honors now look you you grow up in the BBC sports Personality the the balondo the the the um obviously you know n meant a lot it was like you know quite quite Regal

Things yeah but I thought you honestly I think the idea of Messi winning the best player in the world this year I think to be fair I think you know look he’s been the best player in the world for 15 years long with Cristiano Ronaldo but I

Think this year to me it just I just thought when I saw that the other day I mean we were talking about a couple of weeks ago about you know messy season I think he I think he scored obviously I don’t know a few goals for PSG obviously got injured

Mainly in in Miami yeah was there a little bit of a feeling in the room that you were there that like did the world the World Cup stuff come into it obviously that’s last no it was the year before it IIs I was surpris I think um I

Think people vote for it didn’t they was it the national coaches National coaches the captain but that’s why like that’s why you shouldn’t be bugged on by these Awards why would you be why would you be worried about somebody get an award because I think ER Harland deserves I

Think it’s a big thing though Ro I think Erland Harland deserves something for what he’s done listen Messi and the joy he brings it’s just like when you you see a you see go it’s like when you see like when there’s a goal of the Season goal of the

Week and that he was you know if it’s Arsenal fans or Liverpool players in there they’re going to vote for him because they love him people love him you know what I mean you look if you really looked in at what hland harland’s done he easily should have won that yeah

But that’s just the that’s just the way it is and that is something that they have to look at because he should not have to go through he’s like thinking yeah I should have won that just like levandowski when leandos should have won it they’ve got to put the the vote into

People’s hands where you can say no he should have won it yeah and he should wi yes Messi Messi himself will Pro well to be honest you okay I’ll take it he didn’t go right he didn’t even go and you know what with ER for me if I’m ER

Highland I’m finding out well did I win if they say no I say I’m not coming really did he see his no he wasn’t he wasn’t there as soon as I saying he wasn’t there I was like he’s not winning but I was really you there I we thought we were getting an

Award no but I actually turned up I I got asked to present one literally now before the award started so I would have been better dressed if I had a little bit of warning but it was good it was good and it was short tiar and R yeah

T’s dig a to I only saw her on no you know something it was um I just think he was just being a bit fous did someone ask him a question no because like mess obviously Messi didn’t Messi didn’t come so he said he’s going to collect on

Messi’s part and I think cuz R is a Tottenham fan and he said you know it’s best I do it because you’re not used to like silver stuff so it kind I think that’s what that’s what they took from it and I feel like it was a

Low blow that people didn’t really like we’re talking about Awards and Ro you said on this show a few weeks ago that you won the pfn this in 2000 that ws aren’t important nice one let me unfortunately you did play in prehistoric times but they have video on

Cameras let me see and um joking you can’t have a joke these days no no no because like you’re to you were lying a few weeks he said Awards don’t matter and don’t matter that none of his teammates turned up to celebrate nice I knew that you did I knew that you here

Is the great set Blaster FIFA the players player of the year 2000 of the team Manchester United and of the Republic of Ireland yeah don’t forget that Roy K where was this one there be here Andy Co that’s true fuson you were a bit of a looker in

The thank you J nice nice little interview so he did have some teammates there two two Gary said no teammates said I coer copper there we go a this is lovely thanks J this is nice if you have H on the new 10 yard rule next season you’re

Going to have to have a think about that yeah we’ll see we’ll see Jesus Christ cring you could have give a bit more it’s coming okay no European Cup but apart from that it’s yet another big year for trophies and a big year for Roy Keane and

Trophies but this one is from your fellow professionals is that special to you yeah of course it’s special um I’m very surprised I got a shock when I won the Riders one um probably a bigger shock tonight and to get off my fell our professionals um because the players who

Were all been nominated all um had a good chance of winning that’s just fortunate and it was me this year and um I’d like to thank again all my all the fellow professionals personality for the rest that’s I was only a child he’ll never make a

Pund Jesus how old were you you look like you was you look like you you look nervous but you never said foret also you also say about you know something you can drop the guard a little bit you must be proud to have won

The PS not I swear to got him now what you want me to do I had to go and pick it up yeah but so Alex was there Jesus so Alex was there it was lovely touch yeah just your speech was terrible my point is I was shocking speech but if I

Hadn’t won it I wouldn’t have been upset and going I should have won it like you’re all saying mess he deserved it I would have I would have rolled with it I probably should have won it the tree previous years he’s not bit though no no no I I like it

I like I like the awards you know like you close would you ever close to winning that racy you know when I we go Jes great question J you know what I thought I thought my first year at arsenal when I went from Palace and scored my 29 in the league and

Fight I thought I thought it was it was quite a bad year in the end for me but like I thought that that year I think Gary Lin won it that year I think he announced he was retiring as well I think he won the

Writers I and he won that one and I thought that I was in in for a chance with that one I was devastated um when I when I didn’t get that because like you say when it is voted for by The Lads it’s because you know when they play

Against you and that’s how I used to do my M I used to I used to always put in the players that when I played against them if they were impressive on that particular day you know I I didn’t do it like you know like some of the guys were

Coming and they go yeah um um yeah right back yeah Gary I know what you’re I didn’t do that I always marked it like n no no he was you when you played against that person how they done I think the reason I went as well I think I’d have

Born a a me contract if I wanted to do you think people get political did it get political when you were doing it yeah I was good he that so I was ER I’d get the forms basically and had whack them out and if we thought of

Someone had a decent chance of winning something St yeah if you think oh Steve’s got a chance or Torres has got a chance to play the year or something it’d be like well no one can vote for his rival I’d make sure IM that’s not good do you not think

Though that because we used to fill it in obviously you only played against some teams twice a season so I always thought that you should put forward your player of the Season sometimes because you would only see them twice wouldn’t you and then I think you see them play

However many games so you know who’s doing well you can’t vote for your own teammate I get that but I always just thought was a bit I was like oh she played well against us but I only seen her for two games so when see them in

Games like you know when you watch people on the TV as well like when you for instance you know you hit oh de bruy are done well again today then you see him on a live game you see him do unbelievable stuff that stays in your

Head okay so we don’t know who the obviously the answer is this who is the play Player of the Year this year as of today oh great question that wasn’t even the plan but I just thought of it it’s a good one um what I mean what we doing it

Just riff probably riff like the specials oh that’s a very good question fact is nobody I think well you’ve got to think of the top the top sort of city Liverpool I think Trent Alexander Arnold would be the sh um I can’t believe Dean’s named guy who played a

Lot of games defense it’s it’s like he’s never played a position before how bad he is defending it’s amazing how many people just run past him but anyway who Trent no but Tren oh listen possession it’s just it’s such a redundant IR few people saying run past him he’s not

Playing that WR he’s a Creator now Bernardo Sil brilliant Arsenal obviously I’m going rice yeah you love himon Villa to I thought Madison before he got injured he was on a nice yeah yeah son yeah come on who are you seeing the fact nobody springing to mind suggest that suest there’s nobody

Really been standing I thought foden was having a good season as well for a while so who is it so far probably probably with Liverpool being top I would I would go with Trent you reog tell something over here found these things I don’t

Know it’s a be yes it’s a I think there one each can go oh brilliant little a beauty oh man who is it is it Everton it better be a woman else I’m kicking off I know think is a woman that one is it ever what are you going to do with one

Of them just been playing I’ve just been fiddling with I like it’s a little thing again it’s just a little thing the brother yeah nice manks right we’ll move on something more Serious serious matters Everton and Forest have been charged admitted breaches of ffp and they’re in a bit of trouble and you this morning have written an article I see where you’re putting the BL good article Jame you’re putting the blame you seen it good article yeah the EV

Fans don’t think so well you’re putting the blame you’re you’re not I mean obviously the Premier League are getting a lot of criticism and being put under a lot of pressure from the clubs and the fans of the clubs but you’re saying this holy lies with the owners of the clubs

Aren you yeah I I think certainly from Everton’s point of view I’m in the city I’ve got uh friends and family Everton fans and what Everton have been totally for the last 12 18 months have absolutely slaughtered their own board and right we so uh there’s been a lot of

Stuff going on off the pitch demonstrations beforehand but when this has all come out what has done and and it’s not just Everton fans I think probably Liverpool fans are doing it’s probably a trait of people in the city it’s a bit like right someone’s attacking us the Premier League are

Coming for us ducking our points we’re going for them or we’re sticking together type of thing and we we’re going to really fight this but if you actually look at Everton football club right now who was actually fighting for them in terms of their own club there’s no one there they’ve got the

Mayor of Manchester Andy bam who was a big EV fan I know quite was a really good good man he’s the one sort of on the front foot fighting for basically against the Premier League or fighting for because there’s just a vacuum that there’s no one there the

Owner just gone missing no one’s there to pee from him for years the people on the board who obviously the fans got them out but a couple of them wouldn’t didn’t even actually go to the hearing to defend the club which I find unbelievable staggering unbelievable uh

So for me yeah whether it’s the Premier League whether it’s the government whoever’s in sort of those echelons we all sort of attack them and think you know challenge doing and hav are doing that but the there’s a couple of things they could argue I I I feel that is the

10 points too harsh I think that’s a fair argument you know that’s what they’re fighting can they get it to six can they get it to four they’re arguing U EV are upset with the Premier League I think about basic Le the club is saying some of the charges are on the stadium

And you’re allowed to put money to the stadium the women’s team the academy that’s cl’s infrastructure but and that’s where the call case will end up is the money ever the saying that was used for the state stadium was it used for something else and then they’d be

Over and get dock but for me you can Everton fans are obviously having to go to Premier League you can have go to Premier League and not be happy with two three things but the way that club’s being R is just like it’s so bad I I was

Actually looking at it because I thought I better get ready for the the blues on social media you know when they come back at me at one stage I got the wages sent to me at one stage a two years ago Everton’s wages were 95% of their turnover 95 it’s it’s just like

Unbelievable how badly that club has been run but Jim know amazing when you think the money involved in this football and what they’re up again and I know I’m going to try and simplify it but you think what kind of accountant have they got in the background because

I know clubs can cut corners on bizarre things give crazy wages but then try and cut Corners with but surely they must have the clubs must have the best of the best in terms of yeah you know counting before they fil him with the you know beforeand you’re going to be in a

Problem don’t you surely you’re looking at that months before you’re involved in a club and run a club you know beforehand and the Premier League they’ve been giving crits by ever but they were actually working with the club in terms of you’re getting very close to it I actually think the Premier League

Should have been stronger with ever and just said you can’t buy another player right but should the club not at him I know I think though the problem the problem with the Premier League this is the simple rule where you’re only allowed to lose 105 million over the

Threee period so Everton could say that like Jamie said they could stop them signing a player but what Everton could say is well we no because we’re going to sell a player for 40 minut and back with it so that’s what happened and then obviously they haven’t brought that

Revenue in and that’s when but it must be dits where you put in your your accounts like every every tax returned yeah yeah you know what’s really quite sad about the whole thing um for me is that I I was reading a piece from um Philip o clearing that Yar when you look

At the the future for Everton and the Triple 7 I just read in that piece that the CEO and the C and the CFO have just been like they’ve just released them they just let them go that’s the future those are the people who are allegedly

Meant to be buying the club and they’ve been suspended they’ve been removed so when you’re saying about no one’s even going Jame and no one’s and that is supposedly the future it does not look they are they are basically keeping EV float at the moment they are they don’t

Even own the club but they are giving Everton I think 20 million pound a month for running costs and they obviously they own other clubs and there’s a lot of criticism they the I think Richard Masters said yesterday this almost saying that we’re not sure that we’ll actually grant them the when

You look at the the activity around the world and every you know what I mean the businesses and all the the discrepancies and everything you have to worry about that with with with Triple 7 and everon because they you I think you’re right I mean even with Nottingham Forest he

Signed it felt like a million players last summer spending so much money you think how are they going to do this within the sort of rules and when they break the rules you almost aren’t surprised a little bit but yeah but you’re surprised the fans should be

Surprised because I remember it was um Randall the ex-chairman and now director he gave them assurances in one of those um in one of the supporters trust q&as that nonea because they were obviously very worried about the signings and well this looks we we were all thinking what

Are they doing so the fans were doing that and he was saying no you know Assurance is it’s going to be fine so now they’re getting to this situation but but everon did that as well it makes me think is is it that feeling of you know Everton is still arguing against it

You’re saying nothing for us we’re arguing against it and we we’ll create that much of a stor we get all our fans on our SS our fans will all support us and it’s almost just like you almost that sort of trump politics where you just sort of say things and you get

People with you and you this big army we’re against this or we against that you’re saying someone of for saying that ever and the two times they’ve been done this season beforehand you know little bit of a messages that you’re getting stuff that are reading the local paper it’s a bit

Like no EV are going to be fine and then and then they’re not and you’re sorry for the players though I’m like they’ve already had points deducted and then obviously they’ve worked so hard to get points and then if they get more took off them and I’m like they’re not in

Charge of the finances of the imagine being a player put all that work in and then they just take all your points off you I’d say more the supports what I’m saying the reason that and I’m listen I’m not having a go play players in as

Much as you want them we’ all do the same sort of things but we all know those Basket Case clubs where people are going there getting money that well over the odds Everton’s wage with 95% of of the T they’re paying players that are nowhere near with and I’m not having a

Go the players for that but it’s actually the supporters really more than the players cuz the players are the on the players aren’t going to go are you going to pay as this are you sure going to afford it like let’s knock it down a

Bit I would like to I would like to see an amendment to ffp it’s brought in by the elite clubs to protect the elite clubs from the fact that they are the highest revenue generating clubs I don’t I don’t like it in its Essence I think

There needs to be a change to rule but one of the diversion tactics you can call it diversion tactics is that they’re saying well the Premier League are only picking on the small clubs and what about man the city and that’s the sort of big elephant in the room really

In the sense that the city’s charges haven’t been brought forward accepting it’s a lot more complex I was uncomfortable yesterday Richard Master said that there’s been a date set but he couldn’t explain when the date was that told me I might be wrong here that maybe

We’re not going to like the day it’s maybe going to be in June July or next summer it’s going to be Beyond this season I think I think it’s in the interest of City actually and everybody to bring that case forward and not circumvent process not not really to be

Fair uh you’ve got to go through the proper process but accelerate the process do it quicker do the right process quicker because it can’t go on it can’t go on because it is damaging to the Premier League and the game generally where you’ve got this who’ you

Blame for that for a draging on because well they’re different charges Sur they are different charges and to be fair the the quite simple charge over over Everton and Forest is the 105 million over three years cities one is a transparent you can see their accounts

Publicly it’s a lot more complex and a lot more charges but it can’t go on for years or else it’s it has done already what we at now six years I think six years it’s gone on for it has got to be in the interest of everyone to bring

That to a head you know you noce I’ll tell you what the the real saddest situation what we find ourselves in in fact the Man City players find themselves in as a team that arguably played some of the greatest football we’ve seen in the Premier League players achieving unbelievable things I think

The the the owners of that club owe it to those players to clear their name clear their name simp because simply because because everything we’re saying we’re just talking and waxing lyrical about de bruy and the play all that will be would be tainted for him if they do

Not sort this out quick they owe it to those players who are doing unbelievable things for Man City maybe going for their fourth now to clear this up some of the charges against City are related to the fact that to get round the 105 million in three years they’ve put costs

That should have been within Manchester City into their operating company which is the um City football group but it needs to be brought forward quickly even if they brought forward some of the most simple charges out of the 150 I don’t know whether they can I don’t know

Whether it has to be all heard at once you know what I mean did you get the date with this no they said there’s a date set but Richard Masters wouldn’t give the date I that worries me a little bit I hope it wasn’t my wages that caused all

This you’re T right what did you win there what did you win there Jill you know something it’s um it’s a good it’s a good point you make gal because they should do that because if I’m a not only the players but the fans as well you

Don’t want that smell hanging it’s a smell hanging around City can fix this straight what I’m saying is if you in their position fast I think I said this a few months ago on here if if you’ve got something hanging over you want to clear your name you don’t want to drag

It on the fact of dragging it on it’s making it worse and truly the outcome is going to be the same no matter what date it is so I do agree much too much like we’ll tell you next week what when we’re going to it’s not it’s not good it’s not

Good for them it’s not good for the game but they’re denying obviously everything Forest have held hand up and said we obviously we have yeah spent or whatever so but I I understand a little bit why it takes so long it really does I think all these things are complex any legal

Stuff like that or with that much money and the consequences I don’t know Roy I don’t know simply because right will’ll take time but I think now I mean it’s been six years it’s got to it’s got to be fixed quick I mean it’s only like to

Think it’ll be started up yeah it’s in the summer I think to be fair it’ be helpful if it was done as quickly as possible because I think Everton and Forest and other clubs are going to start to when you think of sort of Everton was one charge or maybe two now

And and they sort of admitted the guilt and and you see it was 10 points and that was my problem with that I was thinking wow 10 points feels big and when you think of City 115 that’s why you think of how complex it might pay

And how much City F because you you can think of the repercussions compared to what s what Everton got with 10 points for one charge for being over 105 million compared to5 I I don’t hold no um optimism in them in them actually getting them into a position where they’re going to cause

Them problems I really don’t think City are going to continually dance around them that that that’s my feeling do you think Point deduction is the answer or fines I think they’ve sent the precent now yeah Point deduction they’ve sent the pr how how do you how do you how do

You make um like a certain like if you do this you get this many points you’ve just got to just got to do something I that’s the that’s the problem with with Everton fans right now they’re they’re a little bit like there’s no set rules for

If you do this you get that or this thing why is it 10 points so there is no well Str of Everton responded well at the time didn’t I know heav defeat United but after that did they win four five and just they come off against so sometimes listen it brings people

Together it does it does LY I didn’t do it last season like if they don’t last would went down yeah you know so right it’s now time for our predictions Super Six Predictions this is our Super Six predictions time and let’s see if Roy can do a little bit better this week these games have um oh yeah cuz it’s aett I was getting dead excited yeah but it’s fine for us cuz we follow all s oh you only follow the Premier

League Jill only follows the Premier League he’s a snob press in brist last weekend you know me I got every time cuz you’re getting paid 30k and the rest don’t say you went just to watch were you working I was watching a game last to go to watch hell watch

Appearance you wear that Co I’m said you’re getting my nerves going be polite forget it oh gosh chill you go first come on Ben right just look at Gary knows the scores your look how much he’s wants come on Ben come on Ben I don’t do that

Ian I don’t do that you just done it I just saw you do neutral I don’t do I know the scores to be honest that waswa no Gary thank you Ben nice one Ben Ben I’m that the side you have to stand that side I can’t see

You want go this makes it feel better move can they see yeah I hear you on the radi I hear you in the radio I my this is what the keep trying to do to us that’s better is that all right yeah cuz we can see him now just put Jill on the

Back let’s concentrate score my look good of course you look good Benny I you’re on that side New Year you me is it yeah it’s good toast is so good scores we unlucky again we’re unlucky aren’t we bit like yeah we’re cre chance we can’t do anym than we’re doing you

Know we’ve just you know we’ve just got to keep doing it you’ve been lucky over there I’m tell lucky good score sorry last week Gary you got 15 points with three correct scores wow wow and you beat over a million players so last week keep overperforming Gary and J so

You’re on currently on six good credit credit that that is really good and um this is going to be S one you’re get on nerves right honestly um you got six no we got six we okay you you your team got six wow no vo got six

He always has the last here this is on him you’re on four well who said that well done jise that nagging so you’re 28 points behind Roy it’s fine it’s fine a long way to go yeah hey just look unlucky a point reduction game there was a couple of

Games we were close yeah there some let us down what three games did I get uh you got I think Jamie does you would have said one Newcastle nil yeah that was a good one leester three R nil did you get that you got that yeah

Watching that game four did you did you know that that did you remember what you said remember that I can’t remember sces you meet up secretly in our secret little episodes 100% right go just include the woman away on yeah West Brom nor West on camera he

Doesn’t even know me name he just called us nor been a bit in consistent 21 West Brom y I feel like West Brom are playing but we don’t pick a game each instead of this yet okay you’re going well West good show actually I would to disagree with that thanks I need your

Approve I gave you a little heads up when I need a they’re not playing World against the bigger teams they’re not they’re not showing there’s a few Mill under to don’t worry about that it’s one one isn’t it yeah one one you love one getting boring Jame you still still you

Love Bristol oh they beat West Ham great result as well beat them proper as well brist Watford no it’s not two oners was it Watford didn’t they beat I think they beat they beat Watford on boxing there I’m sure Watford ain’t lost since then

You go this game you go this game no you go not yet let him go for it’s your go is it your go we’re definitely going Watford because we think brist City in the cup bit of distraction might be tired oh distractions yeah one extra game well what you

Going how can anyone sit there who’s for a big Club go it’s good to be knocked out I don’t get it I don’t know it’s good to be knocked out they can focus on the league then Jesus they can focus on the league we were capable of going in

All competitions some of these clubs are not built that way but they’re not traveling to Europe Gary they’re traveling up are we doing are we do an hour and a half away come on your SC your score but Roy the reason that teams who play the Europa League struggle like mad there’s

A reason for it they can’t Bristol City yeah but Bristol on fly at The Spar is out of the cup why who you going with what you going with brist or watf going Watford you’re going Watford yeah Watford winning that oh bad this is your

One this is your one One n one n to Watford yeah one be one I’m going to I’m going SC I fancy Bristol simply cuz they’re on high as well no it’s your show come on chill win he says that every week disagrees you he say it’s your

Show I think use me ear for this keep your nose out of our business scores we just make a decis bford is even Tony’s face Tony’s Tony two winner it’s all go oh is it yeah show yeah Stadium you can’t go for yeah but we going to

Close we can’t close I need to look at something I need I need some details just a have five this is you bro the back under everyone will be singing everyone is singing The Gtech going against Forest no I think Forest will get something this is one Forest on counter

Attack they a de St I’m going to go tree tree tree tree two two tree tree see if you didn’t say that if you didn’t say two back you back I’ve got four daughters remember hey right oh yeah lead doing that yeah are you doing texts no I was looking at some detailing

At Stats you’re cheating you’re looking at the stats DET record we’re going leads definitely okay we 2 N 3 two it too hard two to lead Preston beat him earlier on Preston beat him early on you know at Preston yeah Preston beat him but I feel like leads Ellen Revenge do

You think I think Leeds will beat him this time oh Le will beat him yeah I was actually going to go two nil but they do it yeah just copy you can repeat cop US 31 you’re going to go leads take on a been that you’re not

Opinion give you’re C we going to close the gap on him by 3-0 oh no I would have give him PR three you’re going 3 okay brilant put it free well done I would have given Preston a goal would you because like they beat let’s go with

It but it’s okay it’s fine I can’t WIP it out your go is it me Sheffield United easy you get easy ones no I feel like um West Ham will bounce back yeah but no petta maybe no Bowen away from home a lot out that’s like taking this is a

Game Chef United have to win that’s like you know having an eye patch on West Ham this is your decision West Ham would certainly get a result I’m struggling with that on carish for United West Ham West Ham not feeling night no I’m um West Ham I Haven

Might be a draw but get do you think they’ll Hammer them Jeff beat him two 2-1 Sheffield is it just born with Liverpool Sunday single game yeah but you said it’s me you said I should go I’m going for Sheffield thank you very much mean I’m going deep thank you this

Is a big game look at this is a tough got enough to win a game think hey don’t be fooled but at there at Bram Lane I think it’s a good one for him West Ham still bruising did Lon win there a few weeks ago yeah exactly this why we’re knows the answer

This competition because you’re so you know what it is we’re going to a sticky patch aren’t we in we need to yeah B A go count Chinese Palling can we do not going go one one can we do these for spending too much money and pointu con

It’s true for Liverpool I think it’s going to be a tough game for Liverpool he throws every week but he’ll say never he never Liverpool midf Superman Trent just playing by himself Trent’s not playing he’s out so the creat is out the goal scorers out in

Salah so you going to go Bournemouth win then no I’m going to be a tit Liverpool they’ll fle their Muses got two one yeah I think bourou will get a goal but I think Liverpool will still got a lot of fire power I think it’ be one of those games you think Liverpool

Were lucky they’ll just get just about beat on last year Drew did they yeah they got beat that was after beat man united 70 he went there and got beat one nil Salam penalty yeah we’re going two1 Liverpool cuz he just said it and he

Won’t change his mind I I I’m going to go you going what you saying Roy you’re going to go for th my show they’ve got a win uh who playing lot better now aren’t they are so much better this would be a great game great game um I’ll go I’ll go

3-1 Liverpool wow I would to win that right just you love the B I love a my team you said it beat United I did I think I don’t think that’s I don’t think that bourou are going to lose that game I really don’t you just I’ve just

Noticed on your hand um tattoos at say nine and 10 yeah is that the was that your shirt number 10 where was your 10 at no no no no this is um this is my um got in um lockdown when I was um doing the stuff with Gary and Al we kind of

Built a lot of um Gary Gary L Alan Shir and so because the these are our shirt numbers so I just put them on thank God I thought some someone to di I asked a question going I just got 8 N1 there or something oh you thought I was going deep I going

To go deep think is that for Gary and Alan you going to get our shirt number put shirt number on your hand did they get it as well no oh yeah but they they’re not showing they ain’t got that kind of love to give have they I was always the

First you see I’m glad they asked now is Yeah have you got tattoos yeah not of other people’s Squad numbers ridiculous that’s not a squad number that’s the ACT W waser had then on his back t h n you heard that story was it what was that he said that me and my mate used to have a

Same when we were younger okay then and he’s mate had okay it means something to him I hope not okay okay I have loads of like random dates cuz when we used to like win trophies and have a drink I’d always be the first one getting a tattoo and none

Of the girls would go so I’ve got like like when we won the like it was a chvity shield with Everton I’ve got the date on my foot and then when we won the Euros I got one but I’m the only I don’t mind that one charity Shield I know it

Was yeah but it was wait wait bit of context it was my firstever w it was my first ever win I was a bit excited you know the is a friendly a friendly game I know I know well no it is a friendly was my first trophy I’ve

Trophy did you trophy I’ve got five eggs on on my side which is meant to be the Olympic ring is that for us can put our names in each ring now I like that but yeah random ones right have you got tattoos no not one have you

Not no have you no oh no maybe you could get like a overlap run or something yeah shut shut them no have you not got any no what have you got I reckon you’d have a cross do do to say move on move on know what you

What have you got I can see by his face he does what have you got what have you got Gary and Phil is that all you got you’re lying cross I knew you’d have a Cross on Sunday there’s a discussion after the game Tottenham versus Manchester United around styles of play and people even talk about styles of play and the question is why have Eric tenh not been able to when he’s done it at other clubs been able to implement an

18 month style of play at Manchester United you said on Sunday I I don’t know the answer I’m scratching my head can we try and get to the bot that head no but when you when you what say why has he not been able to create a

Distinct style of play it’s just that it’s not the style of everyone’s got a style of play so his style of play is what we’re seeing which a lot of time is probably countered quite Direct that’s a style of play it’s just that we associate now with the top teams almost

All playing the same don’t they it’s all about like playing through the the fullbacks coming inside there’s a lot of similarities isn’t he not all all exactly the same so you look at Arsenal Liverpool Manchester City uh probably Tottenham right now as well there’s a lot of the same things that you see

Building up from the back man united just played differently you know it’s not that they haven’t got a style it’s just completely sort of alien to what we see the top teams do and we expect the top teams to play a certain way now because I think we just sort of

Condition with it with Pep Guardiola going back 10 years with Barcelona uh and we think about you know tag get ax now listen I didn’t watch ax every week you know but we just based yeah but we associate ax with like almost like Barcelona don’t we in a certain style of

Play whether it was like that every week I don’t know but it is a style of play I just I just don’t think you can I think it’s very difficult to win like anude way of playing as well isn’t it do I think I think counter attacking a little

Bit or sometimes again you do reflect I think sometimes a team can reflect the kind of attitude of the manager we see clap up and Adam but you do see United and you do listen to the United manager and you’re like we just want to see a bit more personality even from the

Manager no life there and the kind of team sometimes reflect that you look at United and we are still waiting going come on we need to see get the Top Gear didn’t Ferguson used to always say that that the the personality of the manager you see it basically in the team

I think that for me um because he came and he was possession based that’s how he played and it they started at United they started like I think it’s after the brenford game yeah Jame after the brenford game then we started see scared by that absolutely but then he changed

He went to transition and even you know when the summer came you’re thinking okay he’s going to go back to how we’re going to sort it out and he’s still doing transition then he’s saying was going to be the um he wants to be they want them to be the best transition team

In the world but the thing is is that if you’re transition team you’re meant to be scoring they don’t score enough and they just don’t contr McLaren’s an INF the reason to say that is because when you talk about the style of play it’s probably the style of play that we all

Played where there was no set things we do the same every week we we do different things every week sometimes you might play you go in Europe play counter attack or you play a small team at home you know you’re going to have lots of the ball United feel a little

Bit like it’s football from our day 20 years ago and I just think you’re right we looked at that the first couple of games he played Brighton and brenford and he was it was D gay was trying to get on the ball he was struggling with the ball Erikson was coming really deep

To receive it he wanted Frankie dong who’s like you know a real sort of footballer midfielder and he went away from that and had great success last season you know great spell you know W won a cup got to a cup final did really well at sort of Europe got to the

Quarters and I just don’t know if there was something that Steve McLaren being at Manchester United being there under Ferguson as well almost saying this is the way United sort of play a little bit I don’t know you know sort of Counterattack and it’s fast and its

Wingers at times and they sort of said well why would we change it because it’s gone quite well last season let’s try and maybe buy a better caliber player to continue what we yeah but the thing is Jam you’re looking at Manchester United that’s what i’ say you go and you and

You Roy is Man United at home teams lower end teams as well but like even Tottenham with the So-Cal players missing more possession controlling the game at Old Trafford you know at some stage surely man united um fans want to see um a different brand of football at

Home where you’re putting teams Under Pressure because you’ve got a um a structure and how you’re going to attack the team you know what I mean you look at them like I looked at graph of them and it was like that all everything was did you see it Jame you know whereas you

Look at everybody else and it’s all over and some and there was one one of them what they showed the graph there was no connection to To hland None they don’t they don’t really play as a team do they we keep saying the same thing why after

18 months do they not Ro that’s the bit I’m trying to struggle with a little bit I don’t know but they’re just not taking on board the managers what ideas he’s not getting cross yeah whatever they’re not take it on board because whatever you say you look at man united we keep

Saying every week you don’t know what you’re going to get even I watched him last week they went to Wigan you’re thinking they’ll certainly dominate Wigan and certainly scor four or five goals or whatever was even s was a bit of you know they had to get a penalty to

Get over the line they weren’t even great in possession and I I don’t mind a team sitting in even at man united but even the other night when they did St kind of pressing even spur you look at the second goal just one or two passes

Was a goal yeah as if they’re not athletic enough they’re not so I think there’s obviously an element of fear from the team they go we we are better sitting in and I agree I think there’s nothing right with sitting in if you’re doing brilliant going forward but not

Scoring the goals to back that up so they’re definitely stuck between a rock and a hard place because again you’re man united the hus is even when you’re at home going you flex your muscles attack attack attack and more importantly run about fear in the mindset teams are playing United now and

There is no fear anymore no particularly I think teams are going to Trafford now and enjoying it but look at how they started look how they it’s a perfect start against Spurs perfect in three minutes bam there was pressing you’re thinking right if they keep that up

We’ll see what Spurs are about but they missing something right you know when you’re missing something a bit of belief confidence and chopping and changing and a really out no goal scoring you’re lacking goals doesn’t matter if you’re playing for Man United or any elal team

There is that they end up in nor man’s land they’re not a pressing team they’re not brilliant Domin they’re not a brilliant physical team they’re not unbelievable set pieces so you’re trying to hang your hat on something with any team you go what are they really good at

You said my ARS good at possession what that’s my point Ro not I can’t pinpoint anything oh you could hang your hat on what are they trying to be I can’t see a play sometimes I look at players and I think they’re just doing the one thing

And yeah you need an element of that in football but it’s got to be a freedom within an actual framework I remember like watching the center offs give it to the right back and they’re running forward and I’m like is that something they’ve worked on because usually obviously you drop off

Think and I’m like is it something they’re working on you think right they’ll make a few mistakes because they’re implementing a new style of player but has it developed and got better do you know what I mean my my Wy with is that when I was looking at him

Last season he reminded me a little bit of Rafa bonitz and what I mean by that is he didn’t have great Charisma when you see him in the press conference it’s very sort of like very straight he answered the question he looks like he doesn’t want to be there Bonita’s had

That sort of way about him you know you wouldn’t be hanging on us every word in a press conference but he was really top draw on that trainer pitch and and sort of drilling us exactly what we did and I thought that’s 10 AR that last season

When United were doing well it’s like he really knows the game but he hasn’t got like a huge personality or Charisma so if he’s not actually getting the stuff on on the actual pitch tactically and setting them up really well I’m thinking there’s not much else because I don’t

See him as this like the players loving them or you know being this man manager or like making players lift the game than where they get to looks like they’re all hanging in there Jamie like last year we we give him praise you go listen to One the caribo cup a bit of

Luck with the draws and whatever and then they get to a cup final get well beaten by city I think it could be almost the same scenario this year where you go top five the fifth is available to somebody to get in that champions league and again if but then United get

In it and they were rubbish in champ League M and they’ve had a little bit of luck again but they not a good cup draw so as as much as they’re struggling and no patterns of play still in football you got to hang in there I keep saying

They look like they’re just surviving in games Spurs the other day got and they look like they’re hanging in there so I think it I think it certainly be the same this season where you go could could this obviously manit could win the FA Cup of course they’re good I think

Jill’s Point around combination and patterns is massive because any team that to be fair is anything at all you see repeated pass patterns and combinations and things and I think about Bruno Fernandez and I watched him on Sunday and he’s obviously the best player in terms of talent but he’s

Everywhere he’s left wing except where he should be he left wing but show something I’ve been thinking about that a lot in the last 48 hours he must be being told go and do what you want because there’s no way I I don’t think Bruno Fernandez is the type of guy that

Because I don’t see tenh saying to him get back that with Ollie as well no but if if Pep Guardiola a player plays out of position for like a minute or two minutes they’re on the sideline and they’re saying get back into so I think ten actually giv him the freedom to go

There and actually that means you can never have a combination or a pattern because you’ve got your main Midfield player actually to be fair everywhere on the pitch and it’s almost a little bit 20 years ago where you number 10 said give him license to play yeah that’s

Gone now you actually have to fit within a combination and pattern and system in attacking shape and that’s the bit that I think that Bruno Fernandez is been told he must be able to go everywhere because he I don’t see tanago or any the coach going up to him saying you know

Get back into into your position get back if if if if they’re a really strong team and some really proper professionals de you you’d be telling them on the pitch whatever about the manager would be saying if you’re under the cost like the second goal against Spurs you got a young player

Midfield and Lads are press you that’s what you have that’s but it must be what they want Roy it must it must be what they want I don’t think it’s a case of like you know the player should get Bruno back into position I don’t think I

Think he’s told to go wherever he wants he must have been given the freedom of go like add a number but if you’re playing in that team so difficult if someone’s doing that and it’s so true at City how many players could do that Kevin De bruy Phil Ford and do it but

They’d never be allowed because I could we played the same system from the men to the women’s teams to the academy and I could still tell you all the patterns now and yeah you get a little bit of freedom but Kevin De bruy will operate mainly on that right hand side of the

Pitch he’s not running over to the left and because everything a team that’s like a proper machine organized go back to recruitment probably one of the greatest managers ever that’s what man manity that and when you have it going on you have it going on and youit a

Reflection we’re going United are almost the opposite the city they they haven’t got any of that stuff going on helps because if a player’s coming into the system obviously there’s loads of changes there’s injuries everything someone’s coming in they just know what they’re doing it’s not like the have to

I always remember Kevin Keegan when we were managing with England it just it just struck me then when schy was playing in Midfield alongside Paulin he used to say go on like fireworks wherever you want it’s almost an instruction to sort of go and be wherever you wanted yeah but on not

Talking deep though anywhere up front basically you go light fireworks I want you to go light fir in team talk you say stuff like that and it feels to me a little bit like that’s the instruction that Bruno Fernandez gets a little bit he’s not being told where to be like you

Say about but he’s actually said go on go and do go go and create goals for us go and do we had we’ve all played with players it was an element of was a great example yeah I’m sure that wasn’t was said him but you almost saying again we

We’ll forgive a Canton or a Bruno if they’re not great defense ly as long as they’re doing the business in terms of scoring goals but I I played right back with Eric up front you could always hit Eric when you feet you always knew that

He was in that sort of space on that line in possession I’m possession sorry in Poss I’m talk about in possession here by the way patterns and combinations yeah but you’re about Lads just running going a bit crazy I think there’s a difference between you just

Said he’s the the best player in the team if feel like and I used to describe Pogba a bit like this and I think there’s a difference between a great talent and a great player I think Pogba was a great talent but I was a great player and the same with Bruno fernandz

No doubt to but there’s something I think the great players it it it’s in the head understand them where they need to be whether it’s defensively to receive the ball de bruyne so when you actually look at listen de bruyne is better than Fernandez but in terms of like maybe

Creating chances and different things Fernandez is maybe not a million miles away from him but I he’s a great talent but it just it doesn’t car on that point last question is so you’re saying because if if Brun if Bruno swaps with Kevin De bruyne and Bruno goes to City

You don’t think that Pep Guardiola would get him into that system of play in that left or right channel playing in that three in Midfield and he would be strict to are you saying the problems Bruno Fernandes and that he’s uncontrollable are you saying the problem is the coach

Not giving him the direction coach well we’re talking about two coaches I mean what I’m saying is I’ve seen him under hly Sal sh I’ve watched him way and it’s not being lazy by the way he’s just he’s running all everywhere and this is without the ball by the way to do that

Does have you watch if you watch him International level he doesn’t say International level so a lot of times if you keep looking can’t all be the coaches and managers I think some there is a player out there and he can be and if he’s doing all that stuff and he’s

Producing magic you almost you do forgive him yeah but if you’re on a struggling team and he’s doing all that stuff that’s where it stands out you go you’re killing us you’re costing us but he does it he I think he I WR if you

Look back at all his career I he’s done it in every team I think it’s a trade he’s what what ages you know it’s not as if he’s he’s an inexperienced player leopard and spots some players will have that and he’ll get away with it if United were winning more matches and he

Was producing his bits of magic which he has done I think you get away with it Roy if there was structuring Manchester United’s team because then you could go somewhere but the team’s so structured you know that he’s coming into your your vicinity in the pitch and he’s emotional

Isn’t he he’s very emotional I think sometimes when the game’s not going well he just I’ve seen him like he commentating in games and he’s running 30 Ys to close the goalkeeper down and then he’s there’s no one behind him going behind him and people sometimes

Get kidded by it and go oh look him working you thinking no he’s know you should do that I remember Veron used to do a bit of that Veron when he first for the fans no not really I think it was just was Ty play Freedom he had

Obviously the mind and I used to play with him and he and he be like come here I be like come in my legs were gone but when them GPS things came in I always remember the games in which you played better you did the less running whereas when you’re like not playing

Very well you’re chasing all the time aren’t you trying to get a performance but I do agree with what you’re saying he wouldn’t get away with it at Manchester City I don’t think he’d play he start running around I’ve got a story about them GPS you know when they face

Come in you put it on the dog know there’s a few of them in the team I remember I I was playing right back for and they just come in you know ear in Pro was Pro Zone wasn’t it that the same thing and Danny Murphy be right Midfield

And he just take off on the r like pitch where are you going got to get me running i’ see I’d see people running we score a goal we’d score a goal and people would be running for the celebration just to get the you said you

Have to be smarter with it again when you’re a manager sometimes players would argue with you you might leave a player out you go well just to let you know I covered they would tell you that I covered 12 13 kilometers I go that’s cuz you’re

Crap I don’t want I want you to cover eight be smart that was me you giving the ball away it was me I used to cover 11k but not touch the ball right last that’s it okay we’ve been told we’ve been told right that’s it we’ve been

Told that it’s game over it was a lovely show and we’ll see you again next week well what an honor stick to football has been nominated in the best football podcast Awards and we are absolutely over the moon but to win we need your vote so please look at the link and the

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43 Comments

  1. Jamie at the beginning exclaiming “Half-nine” to Gary’s bedtime revelation 😂

    * Cole Palmer deserves a mention for player of the season. He’s been superb.

  2. Arsenal are not winning nothing without a CF and because managers are all trying to play like peps teams, it means they don’t develop centre forwards like they did in years gone by.

  3. We all know Gary only wants the Man City thing to be done right now because that would mean City won’t win anything. There is a reason why it’s not being brought forward. City want time to brush more things under the carpet and hide stuff. It’s so obvious. It’s a very normal solicitor tactic to slow everything down.

  4. Seeing a Terry Hall/specials tee shirt on Roy, makes me like him even more.
    I hate to say it, I’m even starting to like Jamie.

  5. what in the world is wrighty calling Carra?! 🤣
    love wrighty.

    Re: United, the whole, wanting to be the best counter-attacking team, or styling their play like that, shows how far they've dropped. a top club should be able to play in multiple styles. the best counter-attacking team in England is Liverpool, and they are a possession based team and a counter-pressing team. they can do it all, and if Manc U has any desires to ascend back to the elite of england they need to become a better team, all around. playing in one particular style is a mid-table/lower table club mentality.

  6. Everton have been run really bad and its they 2nd charge and Forest can't spend around £180m in the 1st season in the Prem and to increase the FFP limit football industry is the only one to encourage clubs to get in more financial trouble

  7. I love this series, but I wish the audio was better. When listening as a podcast it’s so hard to hear what’s being said at times.

  8. The best bit is I can say watching this is "research" for filming my own podcasts – Could watch these all day – well done to the whole team

  9. £60 for a trim… Gary simply doesn’t live in the real world. No wonder he’s got his political views. Always the same people completely detached from reality.

  10. Trump Politics? Ye say something and like?????? I’m a trump supporter and an Everton supporter so I’m just blown away by a statement like that! Go an do your best research on your words you have just lost your credibility with a load of bs like that? Ye obviously the type of mainstream media guy they love, uninformed and uninformed on THEIR opinions 😂

  11. Regarding man city issuses,apparently they have spent nearly 100 million on lawyers/ court fees,is that added to there accounts..

  12. I can't tell you just how much I enjoy watching the five of you together. Great entertainment, I feel like I'm in the room with you each time. Keep up the great work.

  13. if there is 120 charges why dont they bring forward 10 charges per season and fine them every season until all the charges are cleared. punish them over the next 5 seasoons rather than waiting

  14. jamie mentioning his trip to thailand twice in the first 10 minutes. he's officially the most annoying person you met at uni

  15. Carragher -"Trump politics, where you say things and get people with you". That's called "campaigning" and no single candidate in history has been innocent of such tactics. Poor form to generalize that on one individual.

  16. Carra on voting 😂😂😂 shows exactly the kinda person he is, glad the others showed they were disappointed.

  17. Roy Keane is the supervet.

    Roy Fitzpatrick Keane the supervet wana be. Roy if you are reading this you are not a vet and you never will be.

  18. These hard nosed footballlers talking hair cuts and fashion………..i wonder what they woudl say if you showed them this 15 years ago……lol

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