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No Burgess no Mory no Luongo no Hurst no problem three points for ipswitch from behind in spite of huge pressure from Southampton ipswitch stay in second and it’s January the bloody 14th did I mention we were in League one last season welcome to the Blue Monday podcast Des [Applause] [Applause]

Craig I’ve got uh we’re very spoiled I’ve got lots of favorite victories the last um the last sort of year or so that was excellent last night wasn’t it under the circumstances and considering you pushed late in the 5:30 kickoff all the pressures on everybody’s watching you go behind great

Performance yeah yeah good evening Ben good evening everybody um yeah it was and it’s also just yet again another type of win that we’ve managed to do uh pull out the bag and um I went to see my dad earlier today and he was watching on

The Telly he used to go years and years ago but he watched on the Telly and he said himself go your manager enjoyed that one at the end didn’t he and you you saw didn’t you on the TV highlights after the match they went straight to McKenna and he was screaming and you

Don’t often see him that animated and I just think as you say Ben just the the circumstances as you alluded to in your intro the the team that’s been foed upon him you know through through injuries and suspensions just to get that across the line I think was probably one of the

Most enjoyable Victory so far this season certainly from from the coaching and the management perspective I would have thought Big Win Joe were you given at the fish pump like McKenna was at the end yeah it was especially because we were like five without a win going into

Into it in in the league so and knowing that we’ve got Leicester coming up next and then it it could easily have gone to seven games without a win couldn’t it and then the wheels have come off Southampton are ahead of us we’re going from there so it felt a huge win when

You looked at the the games earlier and obviously leads won Southampton won both won very very comfortably and we dropped out the top two for the first time in forever and yeah just to go out there and get the win with all the players misses as you mentioned in the intro was

Just a massive win really really good night in the stadium was Port Road under lights and really just really good everyone was buzzing weren’t they tremendous stuff buzzing we are I’m buzzing to have you lot live here in the chat if you’re watching on YouTube do make yourself known get involved we’ll

Go full Q&A after we’ve done this segment and the championship review as well make sure you hit the Thumbs Up Button as well help us out if you’re watching after the fact we do appreciate you guys too equally uh make sure you get involved over on our Twitter and by

Leaving a festar review um gotta say Craig when the teams came in I mean we knew it was going to be a kind of one B team just given um what we had on offer we know Kieran McKenna is so so high on continuity and if you can leave players

In that um he’s had in the team for a long periods of time he will but particularly um when it became known that massim moongo wasn’t to be playing um it did smell a bit troublesome let me read through the team Craig and you can

Tell me your um sort of response to this clad key in goal Clark wolfenden Edmonson and leaf Davis and it is interested Midfield of Lewis Travis and Jack Taylor so um really the reserve Midfield essentially use whatever word you’re comfortable with um not the reserve three off the front um Craig

Burns chaplain who was the captain and Broadhead but we thought it would be Kaden Jackson up top your thoughts on the 11 Craig um well as you say you know we’re probably not blessed with a a massive Squad and therefore a huge a huge selection but it’s just nice to see

Davis back wasn’t it um had not been around for for a few weeks and for him to to get through the game as well um I did think towards the second half when when Cameron humre was warming up whether he may um he may have come on

Towards the end um Edmonson he’s been playing fantastically since he’s coming for Burgess um no issues with that um but yeah as you say it’s it’s the previously unknown absence of Luongo um I think we probably thought that Travis would have played uh alongside Luongo should Luongo have been fit um but yeah

A double whammy um to go without your your first choice sender Midfield um and then yeah we we saiding about we said about leapa and talked talked about dear old Freddy for a few weeks now he he now does seem to be a long long way down

That uh pecking order when it comes to First Choice Strikers and indeed um first second third choice substitutes now so we get into that with a Subs Craig won’t we yeah yeah yeah absolutely um but you know Jackson played well um he did exactly what you what you can

Expect of him um You Know we’ spoken about on here before that these guys have got ceilings um and the team may well be outperforming their relative ceilings but you can’t knock these guys their effort and um you know they certainly do continue to give their all and I say

Jackson was pretty much exemplified that yesterday um what’s your take on that 11 Joe wasn’t really much else he could do was there no no it’s interesting with the central Midfield pairing isn’t it because it it does seem like Luongo and Taylor are the left-sided Central midfielder and now morsy and previously

Ball and Evans and now Travis the right side of central Midfield as as and they are quite different roles how they play so it’s interesting he sort of stepped straight into that yeah but the rest of it was as you expected and I think Kaden Jackson Justified his selection well and

We there’s been a lot of chat about it in the telegram today with regards to just how much work he gets through and the pressing intensity he gives you and without that we have nothing to build from and I think when you look at the Sunderland side on the flip side of it

There when you’ve got sort Jude Belling when Alex Pritchard is almost like joob pair of oh yes sorry job Alex Pritchard there’s a pair of would have been two1 if it was Jude like a pair of sort of attack midfielders rather than Strikers neither of them sort of could really occupy us

Sender half and it seems like Bill’s trying to play this sort of vertical football but they don’t have the players at the top of the pitch stretching stretching for there was a couple of times when Bellingham did make the run in behind and had a nice ball over the

Top there but they they seem more desperate for a strike than we do even yeah um footm presumbly based on GPS data has called that a 44 F in too it absolutely wasn’t was it um Patterson in gol for Sunderland who I like and is going to have a good battle with our

Right back um strangely in this game Hume and L say the fullbacks and Ballard who um yeah good player um and Onin the center halves Neil and EA who looks like he could be a really good player if he puts it all together in central Midfield

And I made it um Bellingham up top with Pritchard in the 10 bar off the right and Clark off the left Joe obviously um as I mentioned Patterson Ballard through the team e with the potential Clark clearly the the um danger man but they got some good players sundland finished

In sixth last season yeah and a lot of the players that were part of that team that finished in sixth are still the spine of the team now aren’t they when you sort of look for that Center back pairing and the center Central Midfield pair and they got some really good

Players and some players that are probably worth quite a lot of money I think if you took out Jack Clark Dan NE and EA in the middle you could probably be looking for about 50 million quids worth of transfer fees just across those three players there wouldn’t you so

There’s some there’s some serious Talent there but they just I don’t know they just don’t seem to quite quite get going do they with they sort of win a couple of games lose a couple here there and I think just the lack of a striker and something that Tony mry spoke a lot

About earlier in the season about not having Strikers ready is is just hurting them all season um you want to take us up to the first goal Craig there was reasonably even wasn’t it was a mistake from Harry Clark in our Corner that um Bellingham couldn’t finish the shot off Jackson I

Don’t know never you never really can tell was he on his heels for the for the chance that burns put across the Box um we get famously caught up the pitch of game with Leaf Davis playing on the left wing and poor old Harry Clark gets a bit

Exposed by Jack Clark and there’s that chance there and then um then we’re up to the goal Craig yeah well as you say um Burns had had a couple of opportunities to get Crossing which he did he picked out play yeah he did first half especially he he had Elisa on on

Toast down right in front of where we are on top of the tunnel there um we look right along that goal line uh at the churchman’s end and you say about the cross that he put in for Jackson Jackson to be fair to him he made he

Made the right run he went he went to the front post then checked and went to the back post but unfortunately the pace on the the cross was just a bit too much for him um and then he pulled another one back for Taylor and Taylor sidef

Footed it rather than get a proper strike at it um that famous pull back to the around the penalty spot to get the shot away um but yeah he he had he was running Alis as well all the time every time he got the ball um and as Joe said

About about Bellingham um running from D I think we’re just a little I suppose it’s quite difficult to defend against is it when you haven’t got anybody physically up against you to defend against from a central Defender perspective you’re always waiting for the guy to be running towards you with

The ball or off the ball um and they were doing that a few times Belling was breaking through from his uh what you call it a false nine or number 10 position running through on the on the goal um but yeah so they goal that it

Ended up at Bar’s feet on the on the right hand side and he got a bit of a dribble on got into the box where we then couldn’t really touch him because say he’s he’s a decent decent dribbler the ball was pretty much stuck to his feet Chaplin was there Clark was there

But they couldn’t commit to the to the tackle um so yeah what just into the box slid across to to Clark who’s on the on the edge of the D he takes a touch and then Flacks it past slacky basically um they they were they were quite

Um uh dismissive of of Hy uh I watched Sky when I got back in and about his positioning and second guessing of the shots which he did um for a previous Clark shot which hit his legs and and sort of ballooned up he was sort of preempting where Clark was going to hit

It and he did here as well then he took a step to his left expecting the one shaped into the corner wasn’t he yeah K into the corner yeah that’s right but that just kills his momentum to be able to get back to the right and they say

It’s be it’s passed him before he can even blink is he he did absolutely Flack it as I saying it’s uh they were arguing the toss about whether he he may have got to it or may not have got to it your mate Joby um didn’t seem to think that

He would have got to it even if he had been ready for it know it’s a fantast fantastic finish um and yeah he he he was pretty much their only real Outlet Joe wasn’t he Clark on the left Jo going forward certainly he was as soon

As they got it out to him they looked different to they did all across the other rest of the pitch I thought you want to come in on that Joe yeah yeah no yeah he was he was the the main man wasn’t he it was the whole game

Went through him as in an attacking sense for them the only the only other attacks they had were sort of the lofted balls where job had made the Run sort of through and picked up a couple of those and they led to some chances but no it’s

Very much occasion just trying to get the ball to Clark and having him do something but when you look at his numbers this season what is it now 13 goals and five or six assists that is that is how they’ve played all season is it and he’s he’s stepped up with it and

He’s getting a lot of sounds like West Ham are very interested him at the moment so we’ll see if they’re able to get him out of there in this month or whether sundland can hold firm it’s just one of those goals Joe where because it’s a recycle from a set play you’re in

An abnormal position than you would be otherwise and it is it’s almost the case Clark’s over at back isn’t he and yeah it’s almost the case that Clark and um Broadhead and chaplain all wouldn’t normally be there and the one V one defending turned into a bit of a um bit

Of a cluster didn’t it yeah it was it was a bit of a mess and some you just need to get the ball away in those situations don’t you and then give yourself a chance to reset and we just didn’t and that sort of I can’t remember

Was it bar who ran made the Run sort of across the pitch and soort of Clark lets him go then chaplain he just sort of brushes chaping off doesn’t he and it just he’s in the Box isn’t he then you don’t want to D doesn’t he yeah yeah but it’s it’s a

Great strike I say it’s it was difficult for my to see what happened because ly you just didn’t see him there and he’s obviously like say he’s unsighted he’s trying to sort of second guess maybe what was happening there but no it’s just a just a great

Goal from a top player at this level isn’t it yeah um so one nil behind but um this team goes behind quite a lot and still get um some results Joe um get back into it reasonably quickly um although uh Clark got slid in and there

A good say from Patterson um oh excuse me that’s my second half note sorry that happen in the first as well yeah burns the clar exactly yeah and then we get to the goal um Joe large slice of luck but then a really good finish yeah yeah and

It’s it’s good from um leis Travis in there isn’t it because I think he’s he’s come into the game and obviously it’s his first time in this system and I and I thought I thought he handled himself well did really well covered the pitch well more defensively but what he wasn’t

Giving us which you probably wouldn’t expect him to on the debut is that out ball that Sam Moy gives where you the keeper or the center backs can play the ball vertically straight into him knowing that he can take the ball Under Pressure turn and get us up the pitch

Where he was more sort of a case of almost getting the ball and playing it safe he’s very very secure on the ball and and that and he was doing well but you just you would missing something slightly from what Mory had but the goal comes from him playing one of those

Vertical balls he aims at chaplain you get a slice of luck as it sort of hits chaplain and hits a suland Defender and it just drops but Kaden Jackson is really sharp and it’s a and isn’t always a case for him but he finish it with

Real conviction doesn’t he like a lot of times he’s sort of almost is not half-hearted with his shots but doesn’t quite you don’t feel like he seems to have the confidence to finish them probably but yeah he got in there and it’s just a cracking finish and fully

Deserve for his performance sort of not just last last night but overall needed that goal before halim didn’t we Craig as well yeah yeah definitely because as you say we Clark had Clark had been fed in by Burns but our our press was very good in the first half F even further up

The pitch it was good we enforcing a lot of um erors out of Sunderland who were trying to trying to play um the way that Mick bill was trying to get them to play um and I think Jackson does react fantastically you know’s he’s on it St

Like a like a proper season strike you know anticipation and then putting away with no fuss at all I suppose he slightly helped him that the way it falls to him it’s only that it’s literally that finish is the Finish he’s got to play isn’t it it’s the obvious

Finish and he’s he’s whipped it in into the into the side netting as well so yeah it’s a great finish yeah great finish and uh given uh if if he doesn’t score in that game I mean it’s it’s a no- win situation is if he doesn’t score

In that game and you know maybe we don’t get a a positive result it’s all going to be oh we’re missing Hurst we’re missing we’re missing Hurst so um it is what it is we’ve got to um we we’ll talk about Jackson and maybe traffas at the

End but um we got to try and avoid the outcome bias type analysis of a striker who’ve scored and a and a game that’s won and try and look at the the contribution I think that’s the um that’s the important thing of what it does for the team um Craig we’ll stay

With you so yeah we can talk about that Clark shot he does excellently to get in unfortunately yeah he’s he’s a right back and maybe the cross would have been better um Mr aich if I’m pronouncing that correctly comes on for a horrific sub Cameo um horrible Mistake by well it

Blame who you like here clly tries to play out gets deflected and um that should have been two1 Sunland shouldn’t it Craig yeah yeah it should it should have been and but then as Joe was saying just now about the absence of morsy you you don’t know how much the absence of

Mory affects cagy affects wolfon with with their hesitancy about passing out that wolfon got caught on the ball a little bit a little bit later on Hy Diles and dieses on this one and Don Goin was having a go at him on the commentary saying oh he’s taking too

Long with the ball well El hasn’t watched us a lot this season to make comments like that but I just think they The Usual Suspects weren’t ahead of them to to be able to pass into um but no you’re right about a chich poor guy got

Hung out to dry I think by Mick be in the postmatch interview as well two or three times didn’t he had to go in for two misses and the and the free kick s um but no he he should have uh at least hit the target if nothing else um but

That was one of those where in the when clad had the ball it doesn’t happen very often but every now and again you see it where Wolfie was telling me didn’t want it he was pointing to sort of not to me he was basically saying he didn’t want

The ball and put it elsewhere and he tried to fit it through to him and didn’t make it but yeah there’s not there’s not many times I played tell their P that they don’t want it but that was one of them and you could see why and it’s so difficult to criticize

Sladkey but in that situation if the pass isn’t on he tried to whether he held on to it too long craigan Don good Don Goodman’s word is you know is is Up For Debate but it was the wrong it was a wrong pass at that point and they um

They got a foot on it didn’t they and then um Joe it’s going to get worse for Mr a and we have to be honest as football fans here if that was the other way around we would all be saying that’s a hell of a soft free kick um as he goes

Into the goes into the back of Davis but we also always say on this podcast when we get one against us you got to defend the free kick and isn’t it great as Kieran McKenna um said Joe that sometimes these fine margins games they are decided by set plays and isn’t it

Great um uh to to win with one Davis to chaplain yeah and I personally didn’t think it was a sof fre kick I just thought it was a silly no I just thought it was a really silly challenge there oh two things can be true it was a silly

Challenge and a sof fre the ref the ref always gives those when you just go and if someone stands in front of you you just bundle into them it’s just it was totally needless but it’s an obvious free kick and then Davis steps up and I

Think you can see on the sort of town in five today Davis is sort of basically pointing to chaplain telling him that the one down on the ground isn’t on so they they obviously have some communication working out what they’re going to do there and some great blocking from George Edmonson I think

Couple of weeks back after the leads game we spoke about how um I can’t remember who it was I think it was stri had sort of basically bundled our defense bundled Burgess away from the ball for their goal and just said it’s something that we’re very good at it’s

Not something we’re complaining about something we’re very good at and this was something Edmonson did where it was almost like um sort like American football he was one of your sort of offensive linemen going up there and just making a block there and chaplain the smallest guy on the pitch he doesn’t

Even need to leave the ground either he’s got his feet planted on the ground ground and it’s a brilliant delivery brilliant header keeper no no chance with it and it’s one of those ones that you could see it was in from the moment it left his head Craig you’ve got the luxury when

You’re R of the shorter players that you can kind of stand still in those areas and as we’ve heard the liners and Ian R and sheer say if you’ve got that luxury Sometimes the best movement you can do from a set play is to stand still isn’t

It yeah that’s right especially when the delivery is that of that quality and of that pace as well because he didn’t need to do anything with it he just just re reconnects with the ball and all the Pacers on the ball and then all the

Pacers in the header isn’t it um as Joe said that Edmonson bull in a china shop just running and bundling everyone who’s in his path out of the way on the edge of the six-yard Box just creates that space he’s in absolutely acor of space

You say about the free kick being um if it had it been a given against us we’d be moaning about it being a soft one can you imagine if we’ conceded a header to a guy who’s 5 foot six tall after coning that free kick on his own eight yards

Out in the middle of the goal yeah tremendous stuff um how did Luke wolfender not score um a couple of minutes later Craig yeah poor guy it’s it’s right in the very far opposite corner to where to where I uh sit but again it’s another Davis um free kick

It’s chap I think may have got a chest on it to sort of deflect it towards goal that’s right um and Wolf’s charging in at the back post and yeah should have uh should have put things to bed there unfortunately um he hadn’t he didn’t but

By this time we’d had um Hutcherson and samento come on and they both made a big impact um good point both both got the ball getting the ball to feat and just running at people especially Hutchinson um they were really getting the ball out to him he’d come on for burns by this

Point and they were just getting the ball out to him time and time again he was running and running and running at it’d be interesting to see how we um how we play those guys in the in the forthcoming featur forthcoming fixtures coming up whether they’re Jew start or

Whether we use them specifically for these reasons and coming on in the last half an hour when legs are tired it’s the last year you want someone uh dancing towards you with the ball at the feet I’d have thought that’s a great Point Joe isn’t it um didn’t it feel

Like you’ve got a tight game you got two dribbly premier league Looney Wingers um that did feel um you know our bench would be able to make a difference now with with two of them to bring in right yeah and it has felt over the last of

Maybe three or four games that when we’ve had Subs coming on they haven’t really been in a position to really change the game it’s almost just been you’re just having to take off a player because they’re struggling with Fitness and bringing on somebody who’s probably a little bit weaker than they are rather

Than improving you or changing options up it was more just it was just I know our our Squad had been stretched over the last few weeks and it it felt yesterday even though that the there was the players missing as we noted it felt like all the subs were able to come on

And make a bit of a difference in the game Joe fortunately it didn’t make a difference and please let’s not get juvenile tribal outraged about refereeing because I quite like referee Allison I’ve done a few of his games on a watch along but should have had a penalty at 21 shouldn’t

We it’s a lud decis I have seen one angle where it looks like he gets a little bit of the ball but I don’t think tackle like that whether you get a bit of the ball or not it’s one of those it’s almost like that the sort of 90s refereeing where oh yeah

He’s got the ball so he’s allowed to just totally clean him out but no no that was just a ludicrous Challenge from was it Onin was it who yeah I think it was yeah that who’s a dirty player always and it’s just to interrupt I thought I thought of I played your

Little sentence um in my head of try and rationalize why the ref has made that decision the only thing I could come up with is that he let it go on to I think chaplain and was hoping he’d stick it in the net and then he just panicked

Afterwards and and didn’t pull it back Jay that was my only rationalization yeah it must be that but it’s happened twice against suland now hasn’t it because in the first game The Stadium of Light chaplain hits the bar and the ball comes down and George Hurst gets it and

Somebody totally wipes him out it’s almost like they just panic and fly into challenges but got got away with both for them but no that’s a that’s a silly silly Challenge and yeah it didn’t match on the end but yeah that would have been frustrating um but it doesn’t matter uh

Craig and just a really good performance they stay out the stoppage time and um get the win and what were your sort of Reflections on the final whistle well as we said at the beginning there just a very decent a decent result and and a decent performance under all

The circumstances we’ve spoken about um it was a pretty even first half to be fair sundland probably had the more clear-cut chances um Hy was possibly the busier of the two goalkeepers orbe it we probably had more position in and around their uh their box but in the second

Half we just stepped it up um we we took control of the game and it was just a matter of time when when we’d scor that uh that winner and potentially as he’s saying about M pushing on to get to get another one hitting the post after that

Um as Joe said about suland they just look like a team without anything upfront at all I’ve got a friend who’s a a couple of friends who are sundland fans and they were there yesterday and um messaged me at halim saying that oh you’re a bit fortunate to be in drawing

At at full halim but then at full time they have full admittance that yeah you deserve to win that in the end because their uh their manager who they don’t have an awful lot of time for already um was seemingly intent to to play without Strikers the actual the

Fans were singing for the striker weren’t they at one point Joe just before um just before the substitution was made the Sunland fans were chanting along the lines of we want a striker or some words to that effect um so I think theyve pretty much had enough of playing

This way with this Joe Bellingham Phantom Striker formation doesn’t seem to be working particularly well at the moment The Phantom Menace um here are the numbers and they they do read well for us Joe look at that 2.26 on the XG uh possession uh sundland just edging that

5149 17 shots three big chances to one um let’s talk about um individual players Joe um got to say I think it’s been a little bit over the top about Travis I think there’s a little bit of um oh he came in and he did a good job

Therefore he is the um second coming of um busets or something I thought he was perfectly fine and just kind of um slotted in and that’s what we needed isn’t it and that’s what you get from a um kind of season 200 games talk to me about Travis and talk to me about

Jackson yeah I thought Travis yeah I thought I thought he did did really well like I say was Secure on the ball but but you knew I mentioned earlier in you knew you weren’t going to be getting what Stan Mory gives you because he’s not he’s not going to know all the

Patterns he’s not going to know this and basically he just needed to concentrate on being the shield effectively and he was he was he was a very good defensive shield for us very secure on the ball and helped keep it moving but he’s just he’s just one of those players I think I

Think it raises the level of the Sam Mory replacement from Don ball and PR Lee Evans I think it’s just a just a just a well a player with 200 Championship appearances sort of come in and he join the thoughts fill in the blanks Joe can’t yeah and I noticed

Sort of um at the very start of the game he goes over and shakes a ref’s hand and has a chat with him and within honestly there had been 80 seconds in the game so one minute 20 in the game he’d been in chat to the ref three times about things

There so I think he’s one of those sort of natural leaders that likes to get in there and gets in the ref here and does that side of the game as well which is when you even if you’re not contributing as well on the pitch if you’re doing

That that’s all helping as well but I thought he was contributing as well but yeah no he looks a he looks a step up in the sort of Squad quality um do you want to talk about Kaden Jackson um Craig yeah just just a quick one on um Travis as well is that

He he you sorry you could see that he had um those experence that experience because he just landed on the ball he was where the ball ended up being he was getting his foot in here and there he was just breaking up their play he was nudging their players when they weren’t

On the ball as well just to you know knock them off their stride and things like just little things that you get from having a 200 championship game experience Center midfielder in your in your team um but yeah moving on to Jackson as I said at the beginning he

Did absolutely everything that was that was expected of him and more with the goal I would have thought um there’s been chat today in the telegram group about you know the work that Hurst does sprinting across the pitch 30 yards to close down one Center Defender to can

Get Sprint across the other side of the pitch to close the other one down and that’s what you’ll get from jackon as well you know you may not get the the physical physicality and the um relative duffing up of the center backs that um Hur would do but you will

Get the effort and the and the closing down um and if they can start just polishing which they’ve done with a lot of the players that you know he’s Jackson himself has improved under McKennon if they can keep working on and keep um improving him then there’s no

Reason why we can can’t can’t get a roll out of him as well Nathan Jones was talking about him actually in um about how he’d come across him when he played for rron when Jones was in charge of Loot and saying that back then in League

Two he looked a player and there were potentially people sniffing around because he’s got the physical attributes that raw pace and the he’s good size as well Etc I say he did well yesterday he run the channels he did his job he scored his goal um and you’d imagine

He’s submitting his place for the for foreseeable future I agree um Joe with Craig’s assessment on Jackson and um what did you say earlier Craig talking about ceilings that’s a good point with Jackson um we know he’s not Hearst and I’m really pleased for him that he

Scored yesterday if they can put him in this advantageous position Joe where he doesn’t have to go over his ceiling and he can do his press in and if he gets a chance and he takes it all all the more um I think in the short term it’s it’s

Going to be okay isn’t it well we’ve really only got one more game to get through haven’t we and that’s Lester away which is probably a game where nobody expecting us to get anything from isn’t it and whilst maybe Jackson’s ceiling isn’t as high as the Hearst in

The squad I actually think his floor is quite High though point you know what you’re G to get from him and it might be that it’s a six out of 10 or a seven out of 10 every week but a manager can work with that the problem is if you play

Freddy leppo you might get an eight out of 10 one week but you could get a two out of 10 the following week and a three out of 10 and the eight out of 10 becomes the outlier in that thing and if like I say in any management if you know

What you’re going to get from somebody it’s it’s so much easier and like I said we we know what and I think Jackson spoken about this in the past with McKenna saying I finally got a manager in who tells me what I can do and focusing on what I can do rather than

What I can’t do and this is all part of sort of McKenna’s genius effectively that he works at how to use players and uses them correctly to their within their limitations but and showcases their strength rather than exposes their weaknesses 100% uh tremendous win tremendous performance tremendous character so many tremendous here’s a

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Yes it was an FA Cup fourth round tie so it’s big prize money in the women’s FA Cup this year I think they’ve doubled from last year but chat um we’re I think we’re currently third in the effectively a regionalized version of the third tier while Charlton a

Second in the Championship so sort of on the brink of pushing for the super league and we started well Sophie PES get um sort of intercepted one from the well the keeper gave the ball to her and she went back and put it past her but from that point on Shalon were pretty

Dominant and sort of managed to get a couple of goals just before halim and then right on the stke of halim sort of a clumsy challenge game on penalty and it basically killed the game off at 3-1 and then in the second half they were able to just effectively keep us at Arms

Left length and beat us I thought the girls gave it a good go but it was a it was a real Gap in quality and I think that just the the extra division above re really showed I think just in the athleticism and the physicality of some

Of the CH and girls but there was a good good attendance down there 770 people down there we um myself rich and Dave went on to present Sophie pescuit with a bottle of champagne for man of the or player of the match I should say there

And yeah I think she she deserved that thought Liam Mitchell at the back did well as well but it was a it was a shame that the game sort just peted out a bit in the second half but no great great atmosphere down there the girls did well

Nice job um just a bit of housekeeping as well we’re likely going to switch the shows around next weekend because obviously we got to wait till Monday night for our trip to Leicester that we’ll um get Craig and Joe’s opinions on at the end of this show so it will

Likely be the preview show on Sunday night and we’ll get um if Rich and Seb do that we’ll get them to talk about what’s going on in the championship on Saturday and then we’ll do some kind of reaction I might watch along or I might go so someone might watch along and I

Might go we’ll be we’ll be across it in um many many different ways um let’s have a look through what went down um in the championship we’ll have a look at the latest tables um get primed with your questions for the end of this segment and we can put them to Craig and

Joe on Friday that Bloody Jonathan row again very good at football um Hall one Norwich 2 uh commentary three Lester one Leicester actually the big losers at the top of the table they’re still miles clear Birmingham two swans two on Tony Mo’s debut leads cruised in they’re just integrating their England Striker into

Their seven 15 to 30 million pound Frontline players they’ve already got 3 nil they won at Cardiff Huddersfield W uh Plymouth one mil w middlesbor three they’ve had a lovely old week after beating Chelsea Preston 2 Bristol City nil Rodham nil Stoke one this is the one where’re all all looking at though

Southampton 4 Sheffield Wednesday nil thanks Wednesday our league one Brethren um from last year doing us no favors in Southampton as expected did perform the overtake but we did have the response West Brom 4 Blackburn one all not all not well at Blackburn if you saw um our

Excellent show with Rich and Dave and Dan from Rover chat you’ll have got some good detail on that but West Brom winning means that everybody in the top six other than Leicester all won this weekend you can see our result there and today the goal machine that is Jake

Livermore scored twice for um Watford at QPR Craig who you want to talk about um well talk about Le’s can’t as you say about banford scoring James scored and Rutter scored I think some of you set two of them up didn’t he so yeah they’re just carrying on nicely aren’t

They um Southampton just four goal set my D I don’t think Sheffer Wednesday’s defending helped us much from the from the highlights I saw there was about four or five Southampton attackers in the box and only a couple of um shiffer Wednesday Defenders one of which was

Barry Bannon at least two or three times so um that was that was expected but Joe can talk about Leicester but there was a couple of bits and pieces happening in the Leicester game wasn’t the red card and the moresa yellow car which might help us come come

Monday say any help we can get in that one won’t we yeah and I say let’s I thought I thought comry were very good value for the win as well though I S of managed to watch most of that one in the early kickoff and yeah they’ll be missing Fatu

Won’t they who’s been one of their best players out wide and they’re still they’ve still got some problems up front with regards to injuries and and play players missing Jo can I just interject really quickly I thought foru as well dealt with Leaf Davis really well in the

Portman Road game so there is that side of it as well continue yeah no so obviously I think people are pretty confident that Leicester are going to win the league but if we can get anything up there and close that Gap slightly and keep ahead of Southampton it’ be a real

Boon right get your questions in for the guys although um I still need to do the league table stick a queue in front of it and a question mark afterwards and um I’ll be able to pick it out in the amazing chat we can see so many of you

Watching and contributing right now please do hit the thumbs up button help us out massively so Leicester just the 65 points from um 27 games they’ve really let themselves down with that defeat haven’t they uh so we go to within seven points of Leicester but honestly that’s not where I’m looking

Because uh three points ahead still of um Southampton although they are cranking out the goal difference as well if that ever becomes an issue seven points ahead of leads with 19 games to go it’s just it’s just in insane how well this team has done uh West Brom

Just look a lock for the playoffs and we were we were joking about this weren’t we last week I I said oh four teams will probably get 90 points and then both lose to coron and Robbins in the playoffs well that is nicely set up on that League table um right there isn’t

It let’s get into some questions um Craig to Matt how is Chaplan able to get in so much space despite the large body of work available to opposing team yeah it’s a very good point actually isn’t it but I suppose it’s it’s a bit different from a from a set play um

Rather than open Play I think people have seemed to have twigged a little bit in regards to our open Play pull it back to chaplain on the penalty spot um tactic he doesn’t seem to be getting to those spaces quite so much but I just think the the set piece as Joe

Eloquently put earlier about the the role that Edmonson played in in that goal I think it’s it’s pretty plain for all to see um but you know again he’s he’s just stepping up another player chaplain who’s just stepping up was that nine goals this season so far into

January on the back of what 27 28 League goals last year and he was Captain yesterday I think he really really enjoyed yesterday’s match he just seemed to be playing with a bit of even extra fire in his belly if there can be such a thing from chaplain he’d say he really

Enjoyed it on the bench after the final whistle he looked like he really enjoyed as well and he got man of the match Den from sky so yeah fair play to we go they play this out quite nicely on footmob Craig where if you look across the top

There you can see chaplain top scorer with nine Broadhead eight her six Le Davis has 10 assists he’s a left back that’s mental Chaplan Hurst then with six assists uh and the combined the go contributions number Chaplin um way out in front actually with 15 um why isn’t

Leaf Davis on oh he hasn’t got any goals has he um Hurst with 12 and Nathan Broadhead with 10 so kind of the same players contributing um but I think that underlines your point Joe uh Steve it seems to me that we have to work hard to get narrow wins where lead Southampton

At Al find it easy to win by a margin um as much as that’s disappointing to hear he’s he’s right isn’t he Joe yeah he is but leads have also found a way to drop silly points really if you think that we’re seven points ahead of them and

They’ve taken six points of us that means they’ve dropped 13 points more than we have in the games not between leads and IP Swit so that’s a huge amount of points drop so yeah you might win 4-0 one week but it’s better to win

21 and 2-1 than to win 4-0 and draw one1 isn’t it I know that’s St the obvious but leads have been have been wildly inconsistent haven’t they and that’s that’s the issue away from home they left form uh yeah yeah well put yeah um we’ve only lost three games this season so

When you’re talking about the consistency and two of them were against leads as well so against 23 teams before the L of game uh we’ve lost one game to 23 teams which um says a lot doesn’t it um sorry I’ll just go back to Joe on

This one Craig and then we’ll come to you on the next one um do you know anything about el el Muni um and and an offer this window I think I think there’s been a few offers um in for him so i’ I’d imagine the fact that that

News has been out on the ipwi side of things is US looking to encourage any further suitors out and try and push the fee up a little bit and it does seem likely that he’ll be sold this window okay um Jason makes a good point here

Craig how do you guys feel Taylor did a lot of wayward passes um obviously we try and both be positive and tell the truth here he did give the ball away a few times Craig what I noticed when morsy wasn’t there um is that we did see

Taylor um doing more bursts forward from Midfield we don’t really see our Midfield players do that a hell of a lot in terms of you know that drivein run forward the best example this is really Championship I can think is Joe Rothwell used to do it for blackbone just burst

From um Central Midfield into the striking position he’s signing for Southampton tomorrow oh piss off is he really yeah god um sorry I lost it there a bit um Craig talk about Taylor because I think Jason makes a fair point doesn’t he no J makes a very good point he he

Was uh slack with his possession and he’s passing a fair bit certainly the first half yours but then he sort of grew into the game a little bit he played a nice pass first first half out to Burns um I think May would have been the chance that burns

Slung across the box for for Jackson if um if memory serves me right that was um Taylor’s pass out to him and then in the second half there’s a couple of times he dropped his shoulder and and turned his man and sent to Midfield but I don’t

Know he just doesn’t seem to quite be grasping that opportunity to to cement a position just yet and but but you know as you say Ben he’s he is more of a an old-fashioned number eight boxto boox midfielder whereas our two cent midfielders don’t tend to play that way

It’s not what we what we want from we’ve got the three guys ahead of them to to do that to to do that role so yeah whether it’s just him having to still get to terms with what we need or just need some more confidence in his ability

To take the ball in those close areas in and around our box um it just doesn’t doesn’t seem to quite be clicking for him with the moment unfortunately but what we do know he is a goal threat he did get into the box yesterday for that

Shot which he he passed towards the the um goal rather than whacking it um so you know he does still tend to get into the box but yeah just doesn’t seem to be cementing that um Luongo role if you like that Joe was saying that he tends

To play on the left there totally agree he’d be a perfect player if you playing 4-33 and he was kind of the spare Runner getting into the box but we just late don’t play that way and you’ve just spent a minute um praising Conor Chaplan he he ain’t getting in the number 10

Spot anytime soon nether is he um Joe I’ve been told Mr Pina a deal is oh itk done for Leo but will’ll only be sanctioned when we sign a forward are we okay to let him go yes simply he’s just he’s just not contributing at all at the

Moment is he he came in for that start against QPR missed a couple of good chances and then just was pretty poor really after that and also the Wimbledon game he was poor and then you look yesterday we had um Jackson starting up front ahead of him and then when Jackson

Went off Broadhead went up front instead of him and then later off on in the game Broadhead went off and then harness went up front ahead of him so that’s there were three players used ahead of him in that number nine role yesterday and we’re looking to sign two Strikers this

Month so yeah he’s he’s done his and like I say he’ll go with everyone’s best wishing because he was a big part of our fantastic season last year but the club has just moved on too quickly for his ability level he’s a top League one

Forward who could probably do a job at a bottom end Championship Club but we have become a top Championship Club sort of straight away and he’s and we’ we’ve left him behind and there’ll be others Left Behind as you see with like Greg Lee and Kyle Edwards

Previously um not a question but an interesting point one defeat in 10 and 1.9 points per game is one of the best mid-season wobbles I’ve ever seen that much is true um I will say um but we are in another horrible battle where um two points Steph Hampton’s wobble isn’t

Quite 1.9 game points a game unfortunately it’s what you’re up against um I’ll let me just take this one Colin because it says Ben at the end of it do you think chaplain is a future Captain full-time Ben um he’s certainly got all the attributes hasn’t if you see

The town in five things in terms of the the leadership role and being vocal around the team obviously while Sam morsy’s um around then um you know there’s there’s miss the captain but you um I’m sort of I remember when we spoke to Matt Holland sort of saying you get

Leadership all over the pitch and it’s not necessarily just the guy who’s wearing the wearing the armband is it um um Joe can you do a bit of admin for us Ian asking do we know which player has been deregistered so that Travis could play yday would that have had to have

Happened yeah and to be to be fair it doesn’t really matter at this stage because during January you can just register and deregister players as you wish so it could be that it’s George Hurst or Lee Evans one of the injured players it only really matters come the

End of the month when you put in your list and that list is then valid until the end of the season so if a player is deregistered at that point they are out for good where we could have deregistered George Hurst last week and we could re-registering today okay um

Joe our admin guy on the on the podcast secretary isn’t he he spends an hour a day on the efl website just reading the um reading the t’s and C’s over secretary this is a good question from Jace um Craig uh how do you think Kieran will manage rotate Travis um once Mori

And Luongo are back this could be really good if you’ve got four players as Joe said your right side of central midfielders surely that gives him um more cart blanch to um take the weight off Mory and Luongo a little bit and take them out of games if um if if the

If the situ arises yeah I think it’s more likely to take the weight off Luongo than morzy I don’t think Mor’s going to going to be going anywhere anytime soon or be that’s why I checked myself at the end of the that’s what I thought yeah yeah yeah I don’t think

We’ll drag him to that we said this on telegram before I say I’m not going to be the one that’s telling Sam Mor is being red for the next for the next great just quickly did you see morsy when Pritchard came off and he was

Moaning and you could see Mory in the in the background just kind of menacingly looking over having a good laugh at that yeah lovely guys isn’t he amused me a lot Harry on um but it’d be interesting to see and again it’s something that’s been we ched about in telegram is

Whether you see all three the Travis Mory and long Longo playing at any point uh in any game um whether from the whether from the start or potentially probably not from the start but during games just to manage games out um we don’t know how long lean goes out for

Yet until the um the scans been done this week but he was walking pretty um easily to the to his seat behind The Dugout before the match he didn’t seem to be in any discomfort um but so we’ll see that but what it does it just takes

The weight I suppose off of rushing him back um to play uh because so we know Travis is already made there whether to Joe’s point about um it appearing that Travis is more of the right side we don’t know I suppose because he he had to play the role yesterday because morsy

Wasn’t there so it may be that he can fill in the the left-sided role when ms’s back and you if you were a a slightly more timid Center midfielder in a championship team you probably wouldn’t want to be coming up against a Midfield with Mory and Travis in it I wouldn’t

Suspect um skip intro Joe if fridge keeps performing as he has been could he keep Burgess out of the team um and I mean this as no criticism but his headit kick it work yesterday his defending defending was really good wasn’t it yeah no and yeah there’s every chance he

Could keep him out of the team that’s how burges found himself the team Edmonson missed some games burges came in got the shirt and didn’t look back really from that point on and if Edmonson if we win the next five games or four or five games when Burgess is

Away assuming Australia get right through to the latter stage of the tournament you’re not going to be changing a winning team when he comes back but I’m sure as has happened sort of at the start of the Season even if Edmonton’s got the shirt Burgis will

Play a few games here and there as and when is needed because let say Edmonson played against Plymouth and against Hall when they had a sort of Pacey attacker that McKenna wanted to match him up with and I think that Burgess will play games but no it’s what this is what you want

As a manager you want all your PL playing well and you and you want to be you want to be having tough decisions to make over who is going to be in a team rather than thinking oh God which one of these two I going to have to play

Because they’re both struggling and it wasn’t as apparent but sorry just quit it wasn’t as apparent that lack of balance we talk about having a left footer on the left side of Midfield that wasn’t as apparent yesterday to my very untrained eye um whereas it possibly has been before so maybe they’ve been

Working on a bit of that in terms of Davis’s positioning or the center midfielders positioning knowing that Edmonton’s right footed rather than left I’m not going to answer this question Luke Chambers is going to answer this question because if you came to our live show you will know what the answer to

This question is from a man who knows way way more about it than most of us is part of morsey’s role to make sure Wolfie doesn’t fall asleep on the ball yes um and finally we’ll go to Craig I think Rob asked this earlier um do we need another recognized fullback this

This window JD out Williams gone back Clark managing ailles Leaf suffering a knock yeah you probably would have thought so we don’t know the story with Williams or what his situation is about coming back um k a shame that Craig I was so excited about him yeah 100% and

Because he plays both sides doesn’t he equally equally well he covers he gives you you know that cover on both sides as does Clark to a certain extent but he just allows you between three players you’ve covered two position haven’t you whereas now we we’re going to be down to

As as was said there in in the question Davis who we don’t really want to be slogging if we don’t have to we may have another George Hurst um scenario Clark who’s nursing is Achilles denian who’s out for we don’t know how long because that was another thing that McKenna

Mentioned afterwards was he’s getting injections in his groin at the moment because that’s not fully fit so all bit Humphrey’s does okay he’s not he’s not a fullback you’re in the Realms of square pegs and round holes aren’t you which you don’t really want to be doing so I

Wouldn’t be surprised at all once we know the full story or certainly the result of of where Williams is going to be come January uh 31 that we get another similarish hopefully type um replacement in there to cover both sides um we will do one more because I

Found it fun um it was about the lyrics of the song There we go from God Joe what will the lyrics of the super Kier McKenna song change to without leppo or should it should it be retired if Leo leaves well it’s almost like the masimo

Song isn’t it where that is chapelain in attack so I’d imagine it’ll be I sing first at the back chaplain in Attack the sort of the I I can’t got s thr the Cadence um it’s Lao to chaplain does work doesn’t it it be G Galaga you have to

Emphasize the middle syllable of Galaga Sam Sam G in attack Galaga Gaga in attack well we’re gonna we’re gonna stop this now um before this goes any further and we’re going to talk about our next game which is in theory the most difficult game you can get because it’s

Away at the league leaders um I’m a broken record Leicester are not a normal relegated team that Squad should never have been relegated especially when you consider um it also had T man’s um Madison bars yeah all of these players so bit of a freak Show of a squad and their points

Total I think possibly suggests that we did have have it mentioned earlier in the chat that Enzo Mesker is he he’s banned from the touch line is he yeah that’s actually that’s the thing um you know because going up against Kieran McKenna is not easy at the best of times

And um okay if you have a incredibly high quality Squad that helps but that will make a difference B th didn’t fancy B up against Mna it’s unbelievable he’s got 65 points Joe I know people still say about pep even though he’s the sort of greatest

Manager of the last 30 years but um so let me just bring up what we’re gonna have to contend with next week end um or delete delete Joe at the same time my apologies Joe there if you’re on audio I deleted Joe from the stream after his

Singing um so Southampton go to Swansea um which there’ll be lots of Russ Martin narrative there narrative as well true yeah they’ve got to travel away from home um it’s the 1230 kickoff what are leads doing why can I not see them on that screen maybe they play on Sunday

It’s going to be spread across leads are at home to Preston I’m gonna give them three points um for that one CRA so brave yes we don’t I’m sticking my neck out there aren’t I we don’t um we don’t so much well look we got to concentrate on us

But Craig um it’s just a case of if you can get something get something and then we’ve ticked off we’ve played Leeds twice and we’ve played Leicester twice yeah y exactly that exactly that as Joe said earlier no one’s expecting us to get anything out of it I said um when I was

On before about morsy missing games that he was always going to miss due to suspension well I’d rather he missed Leicester actually because just to get it out the way um and he’s back for the games that are on paper more more winnable um it’s quite interesting actually I was just watching the

The Leicester game um before leaving home on on Saturday I never realized Harry wins had played 200 games for Spurs 20 for England yeah 200 games for Spurs it’s ridiculous um so yeah I don’t think yeah regardless of who’s available or unavailable indeed is obviously not

Going to be available either but I think they’ll probably cope to be honest um what’s your take uh Joe I mean we know how we’re going to how we’re going to play it don’t we because we always play the same way which is a which is a

Great thing and I guess you just hope it’s a nice open game I think both teams to score is possibly the I mean people talking about s housing and stuff I suppose Leeds went there and won one nil didn’t they and closed it down um in

That sort of manner what does a nipst stre win there look like Joe a nice nice 3-0 comfortable win yeah it’s going to be incredibly tough it’s going to but whilst it’s the toughest game of the season for us it’s also the toughest game of the season for

Them isn’t it at the moment with that’s true yeah us been second in the table so it’s not one that they’re going to be taking lightly looking at as an easy three points and just turning up they’re going to be seriously needing to be on

Their game if they want to beat us and if they’re on their game then we’re going to struggle to get anything out of it but if we’re on our game and they’re slightly off it then we’ve we’ve got a chance but like I say they’ve got serious serious quality their scor

They’ve got they’ve got much better players than we have but they’re only seven points ahead of us at this stage of the season so we’re we just got to keep doing what we’re doing and the pressure is on them isn’t it rather than us big big crowd there I think we sold

All our allocation three and a half thousand tickets so it’ll be good noise from the fans on a Monday night do you really CRA do you really think the pressure is on them yeah I think so there seven points clear they’ve got better players we have to wait until

Monday we might have been overtaken by Southampton again I I think you can flip that round I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just debating it no I think I think I think the pressure’s on them I think by virtue of the expect expectation um being on them and if if we assume that

Southampton would have um won on Saturday lunchtime they’ll also be within seven points and then should we happen to to to um beat them then it’s four points away isn’t it and the the gap’s going to be closing two weeks on the Trot what do Craig what do you think

The team will look like um you would hope that the back four goalie are the same we know morsy’s not going to be there perhaps Luongo could return and the only other thing is is there a new Striker and would you debut him away at Leicester from the beginning so might

Just be exactly the same team might it yeah I think I think it’ll be exactly the same team I think if if long Go’s going for a a scan this week it doesn’t sound like he’s going to be um ready to do much training this week let alone um

Start against the league leaders on on Monday um and I think as Joe was saying earlier about Jackson and the role that he provides certainly in terms of pressing he may well have started in any case had he not um started yesterday and scored you know he may well have started

In the away game at Leicester in any case by virtue of the um characteristics that he’s got so I don’t see many if any changes at all to the starting 11 um do you agree disagree with that Joe yeah and like I said we’re talking about Strikers aren’t we and the name

That’s sort of most heavily linked with us at the moment is Sam Gallagher he’s he’s not played a lot for Blackburn I don’t think he’s played since September apart we had half an hour yesterday so if he is one that we do manage to get over the line I know he’s one we’re

Pushing for and one that we we definitely like and definitely want if we can get him in you’d imagine he’s going to be a player that maybe is going to take a couple of weeks up to speed and he’ll be the the finisher of the game you you let Kaden Jackson go and

Run himself out for 70 minutes and Chuck him on for the last 20 to see if he can get anything done on his debut if we are able to get him over the line and I think whoever if we do have any new sign in as a striker by next week that game

Plan will probably be the same and let’s just wrap this up um Joe just to completely reiterate because sometimes you can kind of get lost in the minui of everything and not zoom out and see the big picture it’s well by the time we get

To next weekend it’s going to be I don’t know January the 20th or something we’ve just been promoted from League one not only are they year one parachute teams at the top of the table but they’re um outlier year one parachute teams who have not been circling the drain or

Yo-yoing they’ve been in the Premier League Southampton Leicester for years and leads had three years up as well we’ve got well over two points per game and we’re in an automatic promotion race let’s just mark this right now on January the 14th Joe absolutely magnificent yeah and at and at the very

Worst at the end of the January transfer window we’re going to be at the very worst level in second place level on points for second place or clear in second place that’s the lowest we can be at that stage so we’ve really got a good period Now sort of three or four weeks

To really get the squad built up again to ready to give it the give it the good go for the running and if you look what happened last season I know not every season will be the same but last season we had this sort of mini wobble over the

Sort of Christmas January period we brought in some sort of Refreshments to the squad and then we just went on a mad run from that point is are we able we we know we can do that the the players know that they’ve got the muscle memory to do

That so do we just try and get into that mode again into that flow State again where we just go and go and go from this point onwards and Craig what about this for a framing as Joe points out the end of the transfer window 18 games you

Score one more Point than Southampton you’re in the Premier League yeah absolutely um and we’ve got Southampton to play and Southampton have got to play they’ve got all the top five make that point yeah yeah exactly exactly that and as we’ve said we’ve said it before haven’t we that we had

Our um relatively on paper more difficult fixtures over the Christmas period And it transpired that we didn’t pick up as many points as we had been southampt are going to have their tricky on paper fixtures coming up between now and the end of the season and we’re gonna have a relatively southton West

Brom at Portman road yeah yeah exactly that so know a lot of it is still in is still in our hands um and hopefully as Joe said if we can get past uh January get a couple two or three new additions in um and then look at a more favorable

List list of fixtures in February get a bit momentum and who knows where it takes us unbelievable what getting amped up now what a positive way to finish we must say thank you to Steve at the end of the show there two pounds on the Super Chat so guys remember um we’ll try

And come up with some content um during midweek but uh this slot next week will be a preview show for the Leicester game and we’ll have a look um back at what’s going on in the chat Championship hopefully we will be celebrating Luke Williams and Swansea City that would be

Very very lovely but we’ll see what goes down and um yeah Preston will have played at leads by that point won’t they look we can only do what we can do um and then we’ll review the L the game probably either in the immediate after

MAF or the the following day and do a do a full show um we we we’ll figure it out next week um Guys numbers off the scale I can see them as they’re coming the chat’s been flowing thank you so so much and um we thank the brilliant club and

The brilliant players that have given us such brilliant action to talk about last word from you Joe yeah just can’t wait for next Monday now hopefully I’ll see some of these guys in the chat of the game next week and have a catch up and no just buzzing for like what team we’ve

Got here and it’s going to be such a fun few months now last word from you Craig yeah just en enjoy the week we’ve got a full week off haven’t we so to fully en envelop yourself and get absorbed in all the trend for shenanigans and rumors and

If you want to tweet rich with any unsubstantiated rumors that you’ve got he’s more than likely to prefers if you tweet and DM him at the same time in triplicate yeah yeah yeah he just needs to know that he’s gmail.com what a tremendous note to finish on um and Craig use of envelop

Was fantastic at the end so envelop this into your podcast machine see you next week