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Kane Cornes and Phil Davis debate all the big AFL issues, only on SEN!

0:00 Aaron Cadman’s development
2:04 Importance of goalkicking routine
4:58 Who has the best team on paper?
8:41 Best first impressions
12:07 Players getting injured away from footy

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This year and the Giants as good a shot as anyone tell me about Cadman Phil because you would have worked closely with him in his first year as a backman in the tips and hints you would have provided for him going to be a player or

Is there massive I’m a big guy I think I think what he does is um he brings all facets of the forward line craft in I think he’s still got to work on his actual like skills and execution and you know moving moving and leading pans but

He can hunt the ball on the ground which I think a really special skill for a BL that 66 great endurance like he’s a beautiful Runner you know he sort of can run around sort of 620 2 K but he also can glide and move um and he’s

Competitive and I think a lot of the time we get a bit concerned about comp competitiveness in tall plays but I’ve seen a hungry man I remember one day we’re doing one-on ones and I got him a few times and then I was like I was

Trying to tell him he’s like he told me to get get stuffed while he goes I just want to beat you Phil just leave me alone leave me alone I don’t want to be taught now just off and um and I just love that I love the hunger and then you

Know he comes back L goes hey what were you doing blah blah so he’s got to learn I think being a good Junior forward is so far away from being a good AFL forward and trying to learn the skills that bridge that Gap is is really really

Important but also I think we all forget that a year out from the draft he was playing on the wing yeah and and he sort of grew he developed and just became and I saw enough to think he’s he’s clean he’s a beautiful kick he hunts the ball

At ground level and he can run and he’s competitive to me that’s a pretty good combination about a Miss yesterday from fra and I said can he stand up and be a key forward you said no I reckon he’s your your third forward is it the same

For Cadman no no I think he can be the man he’s incred he’s broad he’s like 196 I think he might grow a little bit more his wings span’s about 200 he’s just a big imposing lad and it’s hard cuz he’s so lean he doesn’t look as thick as like

A Jesse Hogan and that’s probably what we think about a fair bit but I think he’s a bit bigger and a bit more of a he’s going to be a better contestant Mark than J is all right the Giants open up their season sat Saturday March 9 against Collingwood at Giants stadium

For opening round eight eight walk steps keep it over my right leg trying on try and keep everything straight and going um towards the center of the goals and then six U momentum steps but uh that’ll change outside 45 donate I’ll try and make up some for me it’s keeping

Everything straight and pointed at the center of the goals and if I run straight it should go straight if you’re an AFL forward and you don’t have a routine like that you’re doing something wrong terrific Insight from Toby green if you’re just joining us we asked him

About his goal kicking routine he’s kick 3719 in 2022 and 6635 last year the eight walk steps six momentum steps the routine changes if he’s outside of 50 gave us the key points that he’s focusing on feel like can’t understand how someone like Harry mcki could do something different almost

Every time he has a shot for goal surely that would be a basic thing to do as a full-time professional athlete like Toby is just explain to us there yeah I think I’ve heard routine every year multiple multiple times and how important it is and that’s like in inside a football

Club but also outside my first preseason ever I was at the crows I did the first two months in the forward line and I think within two weeks of being there I had had a routine that was like the first thing we did and then I kept mine

For my whole career um and I just and I still remember and I didn’t have many shots a goal but and that’s and what it does it just takes out any like other decision- making and and I’m remember you know often talking to Toby and he

Was always very clear as well like when I’m going to snap and when I’m not going to snap so he would have made a decision before the game he’ll be like oh I pick up the win this is how it works okay so from this position I’ll snap and I’ll do

So like he makes all these decisions and his prep before he gets there it just eliminates um all the decision making all the any confusion in your mind and you’re more likely to kick it in my opinion so you’re telling me one of the great fullbacks of the modern era that’s

Yourself uh who kicks seven goals one goal in in his last 10 seasons had a goal kicking routine and some forwards that we watch don’t have one yet uh I’m I’m really stitching a few the fours up am I yeah but I didn’t use it but I used

To like like but you had one I had one I used as Toby said there they do it more than me but I used to like at the end of session just take on young kids and do a goal kicking contest and I used to love

Taking on the forwards um we boost I used to get a few coffees out that one came that was always a good one I gave a few out too I won’t lie but no I I always had a routine I just stuck with me my whole career was incredibly

Similar to Toby I was say six walking steps and then six momentum steps keep my ball in my right thigh um so yeah have you say on that for those of you that support a team who’s got a star player that perhaps when he marks the

Ball inside 450 you do not know what sort of shot he’s going to do is it a snap is it from the left is it from the right is it five steps is it running steps are they moving the ball in their hands is it still uh must be a

Frustration for many you can have you say on that right I gave you some homework last night because our magnificent sen social team have been compiling the best 23s from each team they’ve rolled them out over the last couple of weeks printed them all out

Each team on paper fill I want to ask you the question and it’s I mean on paper means a bit but it’s not everything of course who’s got the best team on paper as we head into 2024 yeah for me depth obviously doesn’t get in this which but I look at this and

I think if Brisbane had asht and dday in it to me that is like the most Star studed Team I’ve seen in a in a long time I’m I’m biased cuz my intricate knowledge of the Giants um they’re looking incredibly good and then also Colwood and Melbourne that put me the

Four standouts on paper but during the project and we touched on it l earlier I was so impressed by so many of the the teams on paper that got me really excited for some great football um there’s only a couple teams that stand out to me that need some time to develop

With the large majority so that’s you know that’s the West Coast in North Melbourne particularly where I look at them and I go oh they’ve got a bit of they’ve got a bit of work to do um you know I look at Adelaide’s team for example they’re really well balanced but

I look at the key back spots and butts and curtain I go wow if they could address that and maybe it is curtain you know he’s obviously a high pick and played a lot of senior football you know buts is you know here and there can they

Hold down the fort for the rest of their team to get going because you know a for line of Ranken foggy relle philth Walker and Murphy that’s pretty stacked stacked so that that to me is what I was really excited but yeah to me the the the big

Four um were almost the pre prelimary final sides last year except for you know Melbourne and Carton and then I I ignored Carlton and I look at them talk about Talent you know you talk about um top end Talent Carlton have got that so they’re probably four or five you had to

Pick one cuz that was that was the homework field you had to pick one would that be Brisbane yeah I’d go Brisbane again yeah I just think they they’ve got an awesome team and they’re also deep which isn’t captured on their best 23 too yeah Brisbane have the I’m with you

Brisbane have the best starting 23 of any of the the AFL teams they they have the best team on paper right now I I agree with you on that I really like Sydney like I think really like what they’ve got the the only issue there is

Their one key back short may maybe two but definitely one um you know we’ve got hamling starting at at s half back as a key back I’m not sure that’s going to how that’s going to work out for them so some depth there as we saw at stages

Over the last couple years with their backs but other than that their young forwards are good their Midfield is loaded um you know they’ve got extra depth with Adams and and Grundy coming in finally a Ruckman who can compete so I really like really like sitney and and

I’m a big Western Bulldogs on paper I’m a big Western Bulldogs guy like they their team Stacks up on paper and that’s been the criticism of mine over Luke beverage because their team Stacks up on paper as well as any of the other uh top four fancy so if you’ve had an

Opportunity to have a look at your team and what it looks like on paper where are the holes in your list let us know and which team do you think has the best team I’m with you though like it’s good luck trying to pick your top eights in

The pre-season good good luck because I what Hawthorne have got um we haven’t even touched on mwin Port Adela have out of depth um you know the Saints David King went and watch them train he says they’re definitely going to improve so that’s according to him that means

Winning a final you mentioned Adelaide I mean we go through them all goal Coast are they going to play finals I think it’s set up for an excellent season you’re listening to sem breakfast Phil Davis doing a magnificent job who was a player that made you go holy crap the

First time you saw them feel I I’ll just give you one so I’ll give you some time to think Robbie gray did a Robbie gray came in as a late draft pick he was played as a deep forward in in Junior fo0 and was overlooked by many but he

Came in and we did some handball games as most teams would do in preseason it was out at the the Parklands here in Adelaide and he he was not fit he wasn’t ready to go he had puppy fat on him but as soon as the balls came out and we

Started playing handball games people like he looks like Gary abbl Jr that that’s what he looks like and we we sat back and we went holy crap now half an hour later he was he was vomiting because of how hard the session was for him but as he got self fit he doesn’t

Get enough credit for the player that he was and the career that he had had a huge career headed straight to put Adelaide’s Hall of Fame and and I think will be Australian Football Hall of Famer at one point but he was one for me have you got one holy crap um oh

Probably we just had so much talent that sometimes it was diluted because of all these first round draft picks we had a few of those moments with Finn Callahan early um just because he was so fast I I hadn’t sort of seen like someone that

Big be that fast and he did a couple things when just broke away and you’re like wow that’s like that’s really special Jacob Hopper when he first showed up cuz he was he was already very thick his competitiveness in his buness in those balls Tom Green probably Tom

Green upon reflection was probably one of the ones I noticed he came in and he took it to our mids that was after the 19 season so his first year was that preseason so we just comeing up a grand final our mids were stacked he was

Playing on the B side and he was tagging to them all preseason get oh yeah he’ll be a multiple all Australian um yeah he’ll Captain the Giants um yeah he’s got a yeah big future I would have thought that Tasmania would be circling his name Kane being like if we can get

Him because he’s from CRA maybe they can lure a story around that but no I think he’s going to be a very special play him and um Callahan to me are going to be An Almighty one-two punch all right I can see the eyes lighting up of the SC

Digital team Phil Davis says that the Tasmanian Tasmanian team should Target Tom Green as their number one priority that’s a that’s going to be headline later f I’m happy to roll with that one that’s fine for me be very happy with me 43 98 1116 yet you’ve just added some

Extra cash in his wallet who was a player the first time you saw them you went holy crap who who was the one from your team you know there’d be a lot of West Coast Fans that saw Chris J initially gone that was that was the

First one to me came my goodness that game in Brisbane five and a half that was like I was 12 and I was like this is just like I was like this is just the most UN I think he was in your eighth season by then C

Well I I thought and just just just one here I thought when I when I first saw WL play I was like gee this is that’s so that’s the thing for me like this guy so competitive genuine Breakaway speed now I hope his his body can can hold up

Because he had some issues leading into the draft and then last year with the with the hammies because of how explosive he is but so Nora got a few like some of the stuff Davies UNC does he goes wow and then they there the consistency for there isn’t it over

There they’re like how long can we keep W on the field can Davis UNC go to an a grader because he can play how he does all the time it’s exciting for North there are definitely some green shoots there Phil was I too hard on Callum

Mills when he got injured on Mad Monday I was I’m scathing on footballers who injure themselves and do stupid things away from the game like snow sking or water skiing or jumping off cliffs or riding mountain bikes or doing St stupid stuff on Mad Mondays because John Longmire has stood

By him he says this is another experience that he can add to his life whether they’re all good bad or otherwise they are experiences he’s a terrific person we’ll continue to work with him and the coaches and make sure he’s back to having an impact sounds like they’re not going to take the

Captaincy away from him is that the right move and am I do I need more tolerance I don’t think you need more tolerance I think what longm has done here in my my view is that he he can’t change what’s happened um let’s run it what’s what’s the what are the positives

He can potentially get out of this it’s very new age like we can’t change the past or what it’s the great benefits we can get going forward it’s funny I get asked all the time by people hey what are you allowed to do outside of your

Footy contract and I said it’s a very like General clause for me I haven’t read it B but I think it’s long like no extreme activities and they say oh what’s extreme I said oh it’s up to the discretion of the club really if they

Want to and if I said if you’re a good player and you hurt yourself like the Ole Wine situation they’re never going to rip up your contract because someone will just pick you up and you know away you go but if you’re a fringe player so

I say I summarize the rule is you can do whatever you want just don’t get hurt um and if you get hurt just hope that you’re a very good player which is disappointing for fans how it’s unfolded so good players are treated differently to to less because because I always

Think about this let’s say hypothetically Cal Mills did this and they was so upset they said we can terminate your contract and they put him and they gets cut 17 other clubs are calling up Callum Mills as manager and signing him straight away well if it’s a

Lesser known player that’s like 38 on the list and they can be like oh well one we can either you know theoretically show everyone what our standards are but there there’s no other options they can safely do that and won’t probably bite them as much that’s just how I view is

Cu it’s like you’ve got an asset yeah it’s really disappointing can we curve that behavior going forward but we can’t just cut you loose it’s not even worth saving the money because someone’s just going to pick you up and if they’re a good player and he’s viously the fabric

Of that football club call Mills but for me like I was incredibly disappointed cuz like I’ve seen a lot of things happen on Mad Monday and you see wrestles and that and I’ve just never seen such an injury from that kind of stuff which was like I’d love to know

Exactly what happened we’ll never find out but if it was like what I’ve seen where it’s relatively harmless like I’ve seen people like do like very low-level wrestling like and it’s very safe it’s not big collisions um and it usually comes back from like what you’ve done

During the year if you like had a wrestling coach that year and you learned how to wrestle we might do that and a very safe controlled environment but not barbaric stuff you know what I mean and that’s why that was so surprising to me but yeah so if I’m a

First year player high draic so I’m a Finn Callahan and I’m I’m about to go on my first weekend off after my first week of preas training I say Phil I’m thinking about going um water skiing this weekend what do you reckon yeah I’m very much like I wouldn’t do that would

So Phil I’m thinking about buying a motorized scooter I’m going to take it up and go to see the beaches of of Sydney this weekend should I jump on the the scooter and and do that yeah see so what’s what’s the what’s the what’s allow this is me though yeah this what

Me it’s like for me like so we we had a lot of people that Rod scooters around Sydney pretty dangerous yeah and my wife Greta said Phil you’re not you’re not trustworthy enough to being a scooter so you just do not do that so that was my

Feedback from her but no this that’s what me it’s all these judgment calls and and you live die by and for me like how I viewed my my career was I just some things I was like never going to risk ever going to risk and that was

Just me and that’s also my personality type while some people just like you know free Spirits like Toby green would do stuff that I would never do but then you watch him play I’m like well he does stuff that I would never do it’s just like a different mindset and you and you

And he even admitted he made a lot of mistakes his career and when he was talking about getting a clip I was like GE that was probably me a fair few times tubs so but like you if that makes sense like I get it is different and I think

That’s what long is saying but like there are some stuff that I would be like I just avoid getting yourself in that position that is the safest way to play you get one go at it my view is you get one go at it and I never wanted to

Finish my career look back and be like oh that was silly why did I do so I saw Charlie KERO play cricket the other day and most people would go oh that’s pretty harmless like how good he’s playing against Travis BS playing Cricket bit of fun bit of a laugh but I

Go Charlie you ruined your playing basketball and you didn’t play almost for two years playing B what the hell are you doing playing Cricket like I don’t know not many people get injured playing Cricket but we’ve seen it like Nathan Lon pops his Cal playing Cricket

And he’s he’s so what if the the ball comes up and breaks your thumb that’s that’s what I I couldn’t believe that he would even risk it for a minimal benefit now it may be a charity element or I’m not sure but he could still have gone

Along and been there and supported the team that he was supporting but I just can’t I wouldn’t have done that after the history that he has had and how important he is for the blues to win a Premiership this year I wouldn’t put myself in that position but that’s the

Absolute extreme um doesn’t sound like I think Sydney initially really upset with this just considering Ms and his status and the leader that he is and how important he is to them sounds like they’ve calmed down a little bit and they won’t be taking the cacy off him

Right call or wrong call let us know your thoughts that

33 Comments

  1. On paper means reputations….dosnt account for continuity, in terms of what teams are unified and have played their systems together.

  2. If Ashcroft had been playing the grand final, the lions would have won. Doodee once fit will also just give them extra down back.

  3. Dockers supporter, he’s bang on about Amiss. Great leading patterns & a great footy IQ but never looked like the big lumbering #1 key who can win 1on1’s. Treacy & hopefully McDonald will free him up.

  4. That's one of the dumbest calls ever by Kane, don't play cricket 😂 what's next, shouldn't play ping pong? seriously mate just stop these ridiculous calls.

  5. Mills should have been replaced by Gulden as co-Captain for 2024. Errol is the consummate professional and a future stand alone Captain and Brownlow medallist. Mills needs to regain the respect and trust of the Club in 2024, and then can replace Rampe as co-Captain in 2025 if he pulls his head in …

  6. Lions have the best lists on paper but that doesn't win you premierships now does it. It's set to be an even closer season next year. Teams that can win it in '24 season;
    Blues
    GWS
    Pies
    Swans
    Lions
    Dees
    If I was a betting man I'd put my money on GWS. They're cherry ripe to win the whole thing.

  7. Dogs will be 14th next year. Im not sure why Kane rates them so highly. They've also lost Bailey Smith for the season. As a Swans supporter I wish them nothing but the worst. 😂

  8. I think brisbane has best list, followed by carlton, melbourne and adelaide. That said the team who has gelled best as a team is collingwood..

  9. Yeah, just like Hodge DUI….should have been dropped as Hawthorn was sponsored by TAC, but no…premiership captain. What message did that send?

  10. Hawthorn is underrated list very strong midfield and foward line of course the defence is back but if that gets sorted watch out

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