PING G430 MAX 10K DRIVER REVIEW // Most forgiving driver ever?

Today, Ian is in the bay to test out what some are saying is the most forgiving driver ever. The brand new PING G430 Max 10K driver. Let’s see how this new tech stacks up to the hype!

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TIMECODES:
00:00 – Introduction
00:35 – First Impressions
05:36 – Ping G430 Max (9°)
07:16 – Ping G430 Max 10K (9°)
11:57 – Ping G430 Max 10K (9°, 105 mph Swing Speed)
13:26 – Ian’s Gamer Driver
14:03 – Results
19:56 – Final Thoughts

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This is this is what it is it’s forgiveness you know it’s really maxing out sort of the result from you know the Miss there’s not too many misses yet is there no but either driver to be fair whether it’s Max or 10K it’s very consistent isn’t it all

Right guys welcome back to the channel driver release day Mikey boy ping 10K g430 extension of the line not a brand new driver in its all right but uh an extension to an already successful line it is uh cool to see there’s lots of carbon coming from the Ping family

Now all the way on the bottom um this is this has been I guess highly anticipated everyone heard about this 10K driver and like who’s it going to be is it going to be tailor mate is it going to be uh ping we got it right here and there’s a couple

Other brands that are claiming you know this you know 10,000 Moi but um going back to the kind of g400 times 400 Ma you know that was I mean it was great for us back in the day fitting with it um super highi kind of feels like

They’ve gone back in time with modern technology that’s in the good old g430 yeah it’s it’s very interesting and I’ll be curious to sort of sit back and see how the the marketing of it is absorbed by the consumer and what the consumer thinks that they’re getting when they

Read and hear about it because to me you know Breaking the Barrier of 10K feels like the 4 minute mile yeah I think it’s marketed like the 4minute mile it’s been done before yeah it’s been done several times before ping have done it themselves before so this is not

Necessarily a new thing but it’s it’s something they’ve came back to like we said g400 max was the last time ping done it but it’s now layered in with other technologies that there was they’ve been very successful with from g430 line um Spin sistency and all these

Things and I do think spin sistency Maybe is the catalst to bringing this back because they’ve done such an amazing job of having this variable role on the face that a mish hit now doesn’t Spike through the roof and spin yeah so you can kind of manage those spin

Windows and give you um you know a real forgiven package of extremely forgiven package um trying to decide where to say this now or save it but may as well say it now to me uh maxing out the mo Moi um over 10,000 you know cubic cm of forgiveness vertically and or

5,000 over 5,000 vertically and laterally to me and and and having to do that without taking away any or with taking away fitting sort of elements throughout g430 here movable weight yeah I’m not sure it’s worth the tradeoff of doing it h I don’t think pushing thei up

Taking a if you were to do it while keeping all of that stuff I’m in buying it yeah I agree taking it away and doing it I don’t know if I’m buying what you’re selling yeah I mean for again back in the day g400 obviously drivers were still you know adjustable just as

Much as they are today um but I can see where you’re going with that I think there’s some things in the max that I wouldn’t want to sacrifice or get rid of for that high MRI I mean that Max driver for us is yeah you could H it all over

The face and and get away with it so interesting to see the tradeoff one of the things as well with that head is um to make it over 10,000 sort of uh Moi it needs a 28 gram weight in the back yeah right in the back and there’s only one uh weight and

It’s movable in terms of it can come out you can put a 25 22 19 but you decrease the Moi correct right so you do change the properties of the head and you take away a little bit of of what it is um I think it might be a fraction

Onedimensional I agree from that perspective I agree and moving the way all the way to the rear we sort of know that sort of when we get that sort of effect that tipping effect especially when you’re in Dynamic motion and the shaft wants to sort of or the head wants

To lead the shaft anyway and we add start adding Dynamic Loft we start adding lower strikes lead us to things like loss of balls being high spin that’s what I guess where spin sisten is going to come into but it’s a roundabout way of saying I’m not sure how necessary

This was to do that to to pour resources and and put you know their efforts into this for you know a year or however long left this you know g430 line will stand I’m not sure yeah yeah no that’s that’s a good point I like I said I think

You’re this is almost call this like a concept driver they’ve released it to the masses they’re going to see how it does they’re going to gather information from that and who knows maybe this time next year there’s a Jeep 400 or G500 whatever the heck you want to call it um

And they’ve learned a lot from that they can kind of put the two and two together if you put two and two together and you had the high Moi out of this driver this would be a tough one to beat yeah I could almost if you put carbon fly wrap on g430

Max had you know some ability to sort of shift the weight and and like I would rather take more of that in into this model but obviously they’re not going to do that only a year old I just that’s where I’m like was that ever necessary

Let’s hit it and find out let’s let’s see what the numbers say start with the max yeah okay FR g430 Max 9° yep standard setting throughout this test obviously we’ll you know we’re going to compare it to the 10K but we should probably see a few heel strikes and toe

Strikes I’m going to show you some toe ones yeah I know know I’m going to give you that yeah well I’m sure we’ll see some so we’ll see thin ones we’ll see tall ones I guarantee that we’re not we’re not I’m obviously well I want you

To hit it in the center or you know hit it perfect but I I want to see how that 10K yeah can fix those hits okay Michael I’ll miss set it just for you thank you not cuz I have a dysfunctional go swing good swing that one felt

Nice yeah so little toy 7 mm in the toe it’s not nothing no it’s not nothing pretty decent I’ll take it thing it’s very consistent isn’t it I give you a heel Banger yeah let’s see it that’s still pretty middled I have a hard time with the

Healing ones don’t I should try heal banging in more of I know I know straight down the middle 310 toy hard for you to mess with it okay the big boy 10K big dog does sit any different look any different from the dress yeah which is for some people

Will be quite nice just don’t know the mix of people that have high speed that this will be good for m I know I’m kind of I feel like I’m airing on the side of negativity too much right now who’s it should be talking about who’s going to

Be good for not who’s it going to be bad for but I kind of feel like not particularly slow speed CU they don’t hit it that far offline anyway not particularly high speed cuz my guess is the volatility on launch conditions I think somewhere in the middle if you’re

Like 100 105 and a little bit of ratic could could be really good I feel like I had that one quite nice Mikey where that strike a low toe kind of 27 little spinny so this is the same Loft this is a good test cuz we’re talking now about

CG position right right CG being deep CG being deeper what does it do in Dynamic motion to to sort of manufactur dynamic Loft this would be quite good I think went to the Moon Moon 150 in feet in the air quite nice I don’t feel like I’m really

Hitting these that thin if I’m being honest Mikey like they feel really buttoned I’m looking on that and I just looks looks like I’ve just thinned it I really I really i’ need some Dr Shaw spray or something like that to it doesn’t feel like I’m hitting it below the CG put it

Right okay okay I don’t feel the tilt of the head feel like I’m hitting it pretty much on the CG in 146 efficiency with yeah six up on at 14 launch little spinny there not too many misses yet is there no but either driver to be fair

Whether it’s Max or 10K I was just going to say again it’s just that that lower strike spinny it just it kind of eats the distance away from the from the driver yeah didn’t feel as low but it was a bit more toy hence the shape I mean not crazy toe

But definitely on that side but focused on the height definitely lower Peak height yeah yeah lower Peak height let’s change the delivery a little bit I just think this is a high Dynamic Loft high angle attack person okay right so let’s go let’s go into slightly different sort of Swing territory

Here it’s a bit more squeezy I mean that’s probably four and a half up in it rather than six yeah yeah kind of what it felt like felt quite nice to be honest okay so go to table a second so angle of attack came down by

Call it two mhm Dynamic Loft came down by call it two spin LOF went down by four efficiency went up go to ball a second laun and spin were better ball speed went up there’s your window right that’s the kind of like a spin LOF window where you’re going to get more

Out of this driver than you will if you’re the the high angled attack bomber that’s quite interesting that fixed weight at 28 gr is that limit your output from the driver is making it faster like obviously if you get rid of the 28 and go less it’s going to get rid

Of the 10K we’ll find out in a minute cuz I’m going to hit mine yeah okay let’s let’s do that cuz we think you know like if these drivers are cat turn and and Max is more of an allround driver but this is this is what it is

It’s forgiveness you know it’s really maxing out sort of the result from you know the Miss hit this is good on the M hit for sure and it’s quite good for a squeezer yeah I trying to catch that a little higher in the head trying to kind of

Catch it like somewhere to get that spin down a little bit inter you have to feel like you do a lot more work to bring that spin down whereas you know 430 Max is just point and shoot point and shoot all day all day that Peak height with the with the 10K

Is again and like you said maybe it’s for that fine window of of speed kind of thing but Let’s do let’s try that let’s go let’s make a new window let’s go call it 105 probably not 105 but certainly looked like it maybe come out a bit flatter that’s that’s

Impressive look how straight that was for toy so good okay so a little bit little bit slower 107 107 isn’t slow relax no I know lower effort that’s all careful I know trading on the F line here but like height wise see it fall into a nice

Window there so much better yeah that 125 130 is scary because it just when that spin kicks up but now that you’re in that speed window that we’re looking for that Peak Heights I mean I take that all day long I know I know yeah I would too

It’s better yeah like you have to say look at that that delivery two and a half up in 18 it works just like a dream yeah perfect like a dream little bit short in Horsepower yeah versus the max for someone like who’s swinging like at that

Speed yeah spin jumps up yeah and just just for reference let’s hit a couple with mine just for reference because again I wouldn’t so it’s nothing against but it’s just for somebody out there watching this who’s at a different speed let’s just have a like a

Peek I want a slight ncky yeah a little low just like in that low window where I was hitting the Ping to be honest all right Mikey boy straight up 10K versus max yeah Max kind of did its thing what we’re used to I think that’s

What I thought would happen yeah I’ll be honest I really did really thought if you kind of give it the same which to the degree the difference being it’s close you know a one degree more Dynamic Loft by the the weight being far back a

Little bit more up on it or less up on it with 10K yeah there there a difference in obviously head weight um you know it’s you you in order to access the the sort of D3 swing weight that it comes at standard you do need the Ala CB

Shaft that comes with it right I don’t play that shaft it’s very soft and tip so from that standpoint like you there’s there’s Club speed look to be lost um that’s very very good on efficiency because it’s so much mass in the head right so it’s I think it’s 202 before

Sleeve um so it’s pretty heavy but if we just again back to the the ball data kind of in the same window a little bit more spin yeah but Max just wins everywhere yeah yeah 50 in the deviation 2 miles an hour quicker 10 yards longer yeah it’s what

Max does the dispersions tighter definitely I really like doing this little test yeah of like let’s bring it down a little bit to you know a speed that you know is a little little more reasonable in terms of like you know everyone can get to 107 by any means but

Lots of people can they yeah I think the other thing too is like with your speed kind of that 112 area we saw with 10K just ballooned right and you you lose you lose a bit from it whereas you slow that speed down to you know more of a I

Guess I don’t call it an average speed but more that what probably our viewers are yeah eight eight or so miles are slower than what you get that flatter flight more consistent and you can really see the 10K kind of go to work there really like that I mean at that

Speed 12 and 2500 is excellent yeah um you know codyy was saying there when we were we were going like 107 um you know he was asking what’s your what’s your equation right so 2.7 uh yards per mile hour of Club head speed if we go to Club head speed we’re

At 107 do the quick math for me Michael how that’s good 2 91 right so if you do yeah 2.7 time 107 is is um 291 we’re at 290 we’re right there bang on um but this is where it’s interesting again I go back to you know what I was saying at

The start like give me a fitted driver over something that’s just designed to you know one size fits all and I don’t want people to think that you know there’s ever such a thing as a one size fits all there’s there’s individual Merit to every single head shaft grip swing

Weight L all of it all of it counts and when you add up the marginal gains you get5 Mil ball speed you get the the flatter more penetrated launch angle you get the right spin tighter standard deviation d d look at the visual look at the dispersion on that thing yeah and

That’s and that’s you know that’s it when it’s good and I think a lot of people like I don’t say people won’t get fit to this because we will have this in the demo Matrix you get fit to a 10K I think a lot more people will get fit to

A Max m some people will look at 10K and go oh it’s just more forgiving I’m G to hit it better I’m just G to go buy one right away totally which is obviously not what we’re preaching you’re preaching to get fit you might get fit

Into a 10K yeah um but the difference between a fitted driver and just what you think is forgiving clearly is not not the best option right now I think yeah I think if if your delivery works with it to you like you said and it just you know in the

Fitting great if not if you buy it off the shelf I think you’ll be right back in in the fitting Bay not too long later a year year and a half two years and you’ll be looking for those yards back mhm totally totally I think that’s the

Way it will play out but listen it it is a phenomenally stable driver so I mean you can’t take that away from it we were hitting it in a a bunch of funky places you know especially toy low the low strike one for me was like it didn’t

Really move offline you still got away with it it was it was good and it just didn’t feel like a mishit didn’t it’s like using a big over cavity back iron the Miss hit doesn’t feel like a Miss hit every every strike feels good so um

Quick little call out for the for the faders neutral driver for me in terms of L angle very upright mhm seven uh so four more degrees toe up so we know guys that is an aid to keeping the ball starting more to the left right doesn’t

Start offline as much so if you struggle a little bit with a push fade that will help with the start line a little bit on that um yeah but like everything else what do we say fit fit go get fit good driver really really good driver I think the max will

Still be the one that’s the volume play so good that should be the volume play that’ll be that’ll be my message to our team and you know the the M the 430 is still just such an incredible incredible driver it really is yeah might need to build one up for myself you’re not

Really a bad driver B though like I think cuz again back to you use the same driver you use the we use the same model I just yeah I don’t I don’t think you know unless you’re you know you struggle with the driving like that is was amazing because

I didn’t hit it great every time true you you can access like speed and you know a little bit flatter flight and all those other things as well so yeah I’m not sure you’re the ideal candidate I’d say that needs like tons of help around the face but you may be that’s more

Importantly we’re talking to you guys rather than us too um so if if this describes you guys if any of this describes you then we want you guys to be paying attention to to these drivers going the bay and and obviously see if you can find yourself a few more

Fairways it is Meaningful penalty shots got to keep them down but there is a balance right speed launch spin there’s a balance to all of that so um let us know let us know your thoughts uh if you’re if you’re interested in this if forgiveness if moment of an AA the

Resistance of twisting is something that means uh a lot to you in your driving we’d love to hear from you h no doubt we’ll see a ton of people in the B asking to H it for sure good stuff all right stay tuned for more we’ll see you again Soon