Justin Fields & NFL hypocrisy | Bernstein & Holmes

Laurence Holmes and Leila Rahimi discussed how the narrative around certain NFL quarterbacks differs from the one around Bears quarterback Justin Fields, and Rahimi detailed how that’s hypocritical.

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This goes back to a discussion we had last week about the group think in the NFL and how players are discussed despite them having stats that lead you to believe that either a there’s just more parity in the League this year and your favorite quarterback is going to

Have at least one bad game or B you need to readjust how you’re measuring stick is measuring people because a lot of these stats aren’t as egregious as you think for some and are worse for others touchdown to interception ratio here is is really the Crux of the

Argument the more yards you throw for the more likely you are to throw more interceptions that is just the name of the game right now and the discussion surrounding Justin Fields as we have discussed becomes more magnified because of the performance that the Bears had scoring 37 against

The top 10 defense in the Falcons which is legitimate and help me make this make sense okay I’ll do my best so when Patrick Mahomes has a down year like this one it’s because he doesn’t have any receivers it might be because of Matt negie very

Well could very well be because of Matt neie by the way the Tweet about Matt Nei trying to find the Wise and the replies from the city of Chicago not let it today we’re not gonna let it go I am proud of us that was tremendous if you need something to make

Yourself laugh today but so from a it’s his coach and his weapons around him correct well it’s right like I’m joking I’m kind of half joking about Negi because Andy Reid is there and he’s a genius but that’s the discussion it’s his coach and his receivers around and for Brock perie the reason

He’s succeeding is because he either has talent or he’s also surrounded by an excellent team I happen to think it’s both but I I’m I feel like I’m one of of the only people that isn’t just like Brock pie is just a system quarterback I

I’m like I think he he might be a system quarterback he also might be elite at being a system quarterback which can win you Super Bowls but also what is a winning system it’s a winning system damn right so that said you also jayen Herz a team in in somewhat crisis in Jaylen

Herz and I wonder if they’re adding to their own and the decisions that they have made and and having it be a self-fulfilling prophecy we can throw Dak into this conversation too we can although dak’s health I think last year really dictated part of his performance they brought him back too quickly last

Year he’s been so good at managing things this season I’m very happy for Dak because I feel like he’s in a good spot and he’s figured some things out and we want to talk about that game by the way that’s coming up like 125 but so with them it’s it’s a combination

Of their team around them and also what they’re doing but when it comes to Justin Fields it can’t be about not having the same receiving core the last two years or coaching failing him it can’t be about those things make it make sense I’ve been fighting this fight

For months now and look not everything is going to to fit like there there isn’t a a one-size fits-all when it comes to watching quarterbacks that’s why along with the rahimi doctrine one of the I I I don’t know if this would be considered the homes manuver is a

Betting thing but I have asked people the assignment that I gave out to people was I want you to pick a quarterback I don’t care who that quarterback is you can still do it you still got a whole another week to do it I want you to

Watch their game not their highlights I want you to watch their game like you’re a fan of that team and that quarterback and then tell me if you don’t have some of the same feelings about Justin fields that you do about some of these other quarterbacks if you’re watching those

Games and you say oh well there’s a throw that Josh Allen missed or oh I can’t believe that that zck missed on that one or he didn’t see that guy come open or I I can’t believe that Brock pie didn’t see mcaffrey streaking down the sidelines when you’re watching every game as hard

And as passionately as Bears fans are watching Bears games it’s easy to believe that you’re living in this space where the only thing that matters and you can see is the flaws in whomever the quarterback is but obviously we’re talking about Justin Fields when you compare it to what quarterbacks look

Like around the league if you watch Josh Allen every week he will drive you crazy because it’s similar to Justin where you go oh my God like that guy if he wants to could just lower his shoulder pads and run people over at the goal line this Sunday’s commentating quarterback

Tony Romo also known for living and dying right like the last two minutes of a game yeah he’ll give you a fourth quarterback but he also might give the ball to the other team which he did you’re if you’re watching some of these guys I guess to me there’s no perfect quarterback I

Think Mahomes is as close to it as you’re going to get Mahomes Who currently has 27 touchdowns to 14 interceptions that’s right and thank you Tex yes the QB apotheosis hypothetical yes everyone thinks that that there is a perfect quarterback or quarterback prospect and it it makes it so that you start chasing

That that well Justin isn’t perfect therefore he can’t be better therefore you can’t win with them and that to me is a really dangerous game to play It’s the prove me wrong and frankly I think his own team did it to him I I don’t think that they helped um

I I have some feelings about how Eber flu feels about Fields versus gatsy I and this is just me judging from afar I think Eber Flo as a defensive guy looks at fields and goes if I were coaching against him I would have a problem and I

Like the fact that he poses a problem for defenses because they’re not sure what to do defensively I also think that Dan and I have had this discussion we talked a little bit the three of us talked a little bit about this last week I also think that development for quarterbacks

Now and probably over the next 10 years might take a little bit longer than people are comfortable admitting because of the systems that they’re playing in high school and college if you’re looking for the pristine he wins from the pocket quarterback that takes some time to develop that takes actual game play to

Develop I’m also not sure why they’re so hung up on that system if that’s not the talent you’re getting but whatever I that’s been the knock on Patrick Mahomes ever since he was in high school in White House Texas but okay like he seems to be doing fine with things that

Marriage that monster marriage I told you this last week I’ve been spending my time figuring out or not figuring out but trying to learn how Andy Reid and Alex Smith and Matt naggie and Eric benamy Ryan poles well they weren’t in charge of like the I’m going strictly

Like the coach and players I’m pointing out organizational proximity of of marrying the the concepts of air raid and West Coast in Patrick momes that to me is like I would love like a hardcore breakdown of that maybe that’s a question I can ask like a Tim

Jenkins or Matt Bowen yes this week like taking this guy who plays in this like almost pure air raid that they were running in Texas Tech and then you marry it with some West Coast Concepts and instead of like these routes that take time to develop he’s getting the ball

Out quick and he’s got all of this stuff that he can do it’s really fun to watch a coach say hey I got this thing that I do and I know that stuff that you were doing and I’m gonna put it together and we’re going to make you a monster hey

Lamar we got this thing that we know what you can do so what we’re going to do is they’re going to tailor it so that the stuff that you do allows us to win games and now Lamar is is in a position to be a a two-time MVP of this league

Quarterback enough for me when people in the summer were telling you that Lamar was trash and and no one wanted him because he doesn’t win from the pocket a couple things number one Talent dictates how you marry your scheme Talent Tyreek Hill dictated how you put all that together true that’s my

Point like that’s what’s so frustrating to me when I see coaches is Talent should tell you how to use what you’re doing I don’t understand why that gets superseded by so many other bad ideas number two I looked at that game the Miami Baltimore game as really the the Marquee

Game of the weekend and Lamar Jackson told you exactly who he is he didn’t just rise to that occasion he was the damn occasion it’s great when but again how people are talking about him I’ll add this in the NFL where they gatekeep everything they do something tells me

There are quite a few coaches who are not going to tell you how they would love to have Justin Fields run their offense because they’re hoping they get him yep when when I heard you say that you wanted to kind of go in deep about NFL hypocrisy as it pertains to Fields I

Thought for sure you were going to be like the calls he’s not getting when he gets hit because it continues to happen week after week after week we’ve been saying that for years and we’ve been talking to Mike Florio about it for years and and they always say well he’s

A he’s a runner protect the quarterback you’ve decided that that’s your priority I don’t care what he’s doing like that play at this end of the half against Cleveland is so egregious the swing at the head what are we doing here guy gets gets slapped in the helmet and don’t

Tell me that owners don’t Lobby for their players in the offseason have you heard of a competition committee you have you just haven’t heard of the Bears being a part of it somebody’s got to speak up here that isn’t just him 630 texter why did that game not get flexed

The the Bears Packers because Bills Dolphins is for the division so that’s the Sunday night game but the fact that the the fact that Bears Packers is a 325 game that’s that’s crazy to me and he gets the number one CBS team that’s Nan and Romo who’s calling

The game on Sunday predict this Tony it’s a big deal it’s a big deal and and and the Bears have the opportunity to keep the Packers out of the playoffs they still had a chance if you didn’t know this the Packers the Bears be the Packers are

Still a chance but it requires some real Alchemy yes like what what needed to happen for the Bears going into the Sunday night game the Bears were still alive to make the playoffs what they needed was the Packers and Vikings to tie that was what they needed to stay

Alive for one more week because then theoretically those teams are seven seven eight and one wait no seven 79 and one at the end of the season and the Bears could go ahead of them at 8- n if you won the game against Green Bay