The MLB offseason moves continue to happen slowly, with many of baseball’s top free agents still on the market. We discuss the moves that have happened, the Braves magically being able to extend another star player, and what the current temperature is with the Diamondbacks franchise. We also take a deep dive into Ketel Marte’s 2023 season and discuss if he can continue his superstar performance from the D-backs postseason run in 2024.
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1:00 Breaking news trade
8:30 Other news from around baseball
23:30 Ketel Marte’s 2023 season
26:00 Ketel’s splits
36:00 Temperature of MLB franchises
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Thunderstick by the way but uh what’s up buddy happy Friday how’s it going uh you know things are good we’re processing a recent trade we’re trying to figure out what Jerry depoto is is doing which is kind of just I mean that’s sort of what the baseball community at large exists
To do is make sense of what Jerry depoto it’s one of our favorite games to play uh but let’s just get into it we got a little spying on our exes to do David can we get get with it let’s go let’s spy on our exes yes uh we found out
Breaking news per Jeff passon that the Mariners have traded former Arizona Diamond Back Robbie Ray to the San Francisco Giants so we have to we have to deal with him a whole lot more now uh what what was what was the return here Jesse what’s the whole trade yeah so
It’s Robbie Ray to the San Francisco Giants in exchange for another uh old friend here in Arizona Mitch hanar that’s right on multiple xes here yes uh he signed with the Giants as a free agent last off season and then right-handed pitcher Anthony D gani also heading over to the Seattle Mariners in
This deal what is happening what is this what can you make any sense of this deal Robbie Ray former s winner right who really didn’t get a chance to have a lot of time there in Seattle before being injured and having his season shut down
Yeah I I mean I think I think I kind of get it from the Giants perspective in that Mitch hanar was not he was hurt a lot as he often has been throughout his career right uh he was hurt a lot in his first year in San Francisco was not
Particularly good uh he had I think the worst offensive season he’s ever had an Ops plus around 70 um and then Anthony D gani also was not particularly productive for the Giants in 2023 uh so they get rid of a couple players who I guess moving forward maybe they didn’t
Really want to have to rely on Mitch hanar Anthony DH gani all that much and in return they’re getting a pitcher in Robbie Ray who won the AL sa young uh just a couple years ago and uh it’s coming off Tommy John surgery so Robbie
Ray is not going to pitch for the Giants until June July maybe right after the All-Star break something like that but he is a at his best he has the ability to be a Frontline starting pitcher of course there’s there’s some risk coming back from Tommy John’s surgery but
You’re the Giants I guess you’re you’re kind of getting rid of two pieces that maybe you didn’t really see a big future for D scani just one more year on his deal Mitch hanar has two more years on his deal in return you’re getting theoretically three years of Robbie Ray
Although I think he has an opt out after the 2024 season so maybe there’s a world in which Robbie Ray just you know kills it in the second half of the 2024 season and then leaves in free agency but um yeah I don’t think either team is like a
Big winner here it’s just a weird trade and for Jerry depoto this is this is a part for the course well and it’s I mean again when you talk about adding Robbie Ray to Logan and Ross strippling for the Giants rotation I mean you can see why
They did this and maybe they feel like it was a lowrisk high reward kind of situation with bring bringing Robbie Ray back they know what he has been they know how good he was for the Toronto Blue Jays at least once he became a member of that franchise and he was very
Good for the Diamondbacks uh he just he he he became a different level pitcher when he went to Toronto I feel like and that was something that was a bit disappointing considering that we always knew he good but it always felt like like watching Robbie Ray on the Dbacks was
Like watching a guy that always got left in for just one inning too long it felt like you know he’d have these masterful performances through four Innings five innings um but things would fall apart for him but uh yeah it’s going to be interesting to have Robbie Ray back in
The division now and and to be playing against him once he returns and uh I think the Giants still have a lot of money to spend considering the rumored free agents that they were connected to at times and how much money they were looking to spend on this team uh and I
Mean obviously you know they they they did bring over the grandson of the wind so that right there is a big uh a big hit for them but uh but I mean they they definitely could be looking to add to this team that was like underrated but still
Surprisingly good at times like this Giants team was was in the mix uh for for a wild card spot there for a while when they really like looking at the roster didn’t really look like they had any business being yeah uh Alise also touches in in the comments on the
Contracts um in this trade which I want to talk about real quick none of the contracts to any of these players are good right now uh Robbie Ray off Tommy John surgery I mentioned there’s an opt out after 2024 uh but beyond that it’s a it’s three years and $73 million
Remaining so it’s about $25 million per year uh for Robbie Ray uh and he very I think there’s a world in which he could be worth that but there’s obvously risk coming back from Tommy John’s surgery you don’t know exactly what you’re going to get there um Mitch hanigar two years
And $32.5 million left on his deal for a guy who as I mentioned earlier had a 73 Ops Plus in 2023 and did not play all that many games as he tends to do uh that’s not exactly an enticing contract and then Anthony D gani after you know
Having an RA of almost five in San Francisco this last year a pitcher friendly ballpark he has one year and 12 $ million remaining so none of these contracts are good um I guess the Mariners are taking back a couple of not so good ones um but there’s some upside
With Mitch hanigar you feel like he can maybe bounce back and the Mariners are getting rid of a bigger contract in Robbie Ray which goes over to San Francisco and the Mariners don’t necessarily need Robbie Ray I guess that’s the other big part of this the Mariners have a pretty full solid
Rotation as it is Luis Castillo Logan Gilbert George Curry Bryce Miller Brian woo that’s a pretty solid one through five right there without having a guy who you know won the S Young Award a couple years ago so the Mariners have the ability to make a trade like this uh
It is it is kind of funny in some ways that you know Mariners were I think a lot of mariners fans uh have been talking about you know potentially trading off one of these young starting pitchers and trying to get some young stud hitter in return right the Mariners
Need add some offense to this team and Jerry depoto did trade one of his starting pitchers and he got Mitch hanar which is probably uh obviously someone Mariners fans are familiar with he had some good Seasons there but that’s not exactly the prize of the off season when
You’re looking to upgrade your offense well we do have some other transactions uh even though the MLB offseason continues to kind of crawl along uh with with the big big transactions this one actually today is one of the bigger ones but uh Harrison Bader did sign a one-ear
10 and a half million doll steal I mean deal with the New York Mets uh I’m not are you calling that a steal D no I’m not implying that he’s stealing money from the Mets at all but no Harrison Bader 10 and a half million dollar deal
With the Mets um again not not huge just more money than I thought he would get and uh like not you know not a risky deal for the Mets considering how much money they’ve been throwing around but uh trying to trying to add some depth and almost like like it’s it’s a weird
Move for the Mets considering that you know they they haven’t had that big free agent Splash and I don’t know if they’re going to be looking to do that like we know that they were connected to some of the big names but so far they’ve been
Unsuccessful so uh I mean they just they have a lot of things to fix with that team right now yeah yeah the the it is interesting with Harrison Bader uh there was some reporting uh during the season that the Diamondbacks claimed attempted to claim Harrison Bader during that
Insane period of time with a bunch of uh right a bunch of a bunch of teams were letting some of their players go on waivers and uh right it was all in reverse order of your record so I think the diamond back he went to the Reds
Bader wound up Landing with the Reds the Diamondbacks had like the next selection spot immediately after that so theoretically they almost had Harrison Bader almost um Bader uh you know played some games with Cincinnati only 14 34 plate appearances uh he had a 429 Ops in his time there obviously a very small
Sample size and overall he had a 622 Ops in 2023 and he signs for more than10 million with the New York Mets but I get it because Harrison Bader is arguably the best center fielder in the sport at least one of the best center fielders in all of baseball and he destroys lefties
Uh you know don’t be fooled by the 622 Ops that is him being basally yeah basically the worst hitter in baseball against right-handed pitching but also like very good against lefties an Ops just under a thousand in 2023 so in a platoon kind of a role he makes a lot of
Sense and I think can can be an impact player and uh he certainly got paid like it you don’t see you know shorts side platoon players go for over10 million I guess that just speaks to Bader’s defense and you know kind of a a lack of of talent in the position player market
Right now uh teams continue to look overseas for ways to improve themselves the Padres have have signed uh is it woo sucko is that how you pronounce it yeah I I’m not sure I’m the I’m the person to ask there I think that I think that’s
Right I feel like I’m I I feel like that’s like not correct but I’m gonna go with it because I do know suuk would be different but it’s wuk or wuko uh he’s a right-handed 25-year old right-handed reliever from Korea to a two-year deal worth $ four and a half million dollars
That’s the Padres signed him to that uh with a mutual option for 2026 and uh little surprising uh that teams are willing to to honestly commit to overseas players for any length uh amount you know any anything longer than like a year or something like that but
Again that goes back to I think we’re past that period of time where people don’t think uh leagues like the kbo or leagues like in in Japan are as competitive as Major League Baseball they are willing to sign the stars from those leagues even a middle reliever
Like this and bring him over and at least give him a multi-year deal I don’t yeah I think middle reliever is probably what he translates to in the majors he was closing some games over there in Korea uh a 368 ER in 2023 which coming
Over from the kbo is not a very exciting number he did have a 1.48 ER the season prior uh he’s relatively young he’s only 25 years old so um yeah you feel like there’s not a ton of risk here for the Padres it’s just a little over $4
Million over two years you know if you if you find yourself with a decent right-handed reliever you know paying $2 million a year for that would would be would be a big win for them but yeah the the numbers in Korea are not not real impressive there yeah um well the MLB
Trade deadline is a little sooner now according to reports the trade deadline is now set for July 30th instead of August 1st yeah weird yeah very interesting like we’re not going to end the month with it we’re just gonna pick a Rand we’re GNA pick a 31 day month and
Then end the trade deadline on the 30th just to be just to yeah so in the CBA the commissioner actually has the ability to pick any day between July 28th and August 3rd oh um which is kind of a weird thing that a lot of people
Might not know about and it doesn’t it’s not like it gets used all the time right you don’t see the trade deadline like switching days on an annual basis or anything but it sounds like the goal here was to avoid having the trade deadline on a weekend day you don’t want
To you don’t want to have an afternoon trade deadline at a time when a lot of afternoon games are happening and then you wind up in this awkward position where players are actively playing the whole hug watch thing um so yeah they they moved the day and I think
This is a Tuesday that it would land on now um so yeah just trying to avoid having uh having it on a day where where Day games would be more likely okay well that makes sense you got you got you got me on that one but
Uh what you won’t get me on was believing that this other move that we’re going to talk about wasn’t going to happen because in the most Atlanta Braves thing to happen we should have seen this coming uh Chris Sale has been extended by the Atlanta Braves and I
Mean again should we be surprised that all should should any player be surprised like if you go to the Atlanta Braves whether by choice or by trade do you just instantly know that you’re going to be extended to a long-term deal for with the team and you’re just gonna
Become a Cornerstone of the franchise because that’s what it feels like every single one of their players is now yeah this is uh this is interesting uh Chris Sale had been slated to make I think it was $27.5 Million this upcoming season so a pretty big number but 10 million of that
Was deferred um we know we’ve gotten to know a lot about deferrals we’re all experts on deferrals now um but in that trade the Boston Red Sox sent over $17 million so they basically covered the current day portion of Chris s’s salary and then the Braves were just on the hook for the
Deferral of $10 million which I think was like way down the road um but now with this new deal it locks in a lower dollar value for 2024 so basically the Braves are no longer going to have to pay that deferral payment way way down the road but in return they’re tacking
On an additional guaranteed season right um for Chris S which you know a pitcher of his age with as much volatility as he’s had in his career there’s a lot of value in that for him um so yeah it’s nothing uh it’s nothing too crazy it’s
16 million in 2024 it’s that tacked on 22 million in 2025 and then there’s a club option for 2026 so maybe there’s some world where Chris S is durable over the next couple seasons and pitches well and and the Braves want to bring him back for for a third
Year can the Diamondbacks ever can we do this can we ever be this can they ever actually do this can they do this with this team at this point like we talked about extending Gabby we’ve talked about obviously at length extending Zack Gallen but it just feels like especially
With what this team built together last season that now is the time to strike when it comes to spending money I mean I’m almost satisfied with the offseason moves they’ve made up to this point uh greeny in our chat asks will the Diamondbacks add another starter fod is
Good but still young and a bit of a wild card Henry Nelson Shone uh Sone as a fif starter doesn’t seem too appealing and you’re not wrong about that but uh I I think going back to what I was just saying I would almost prefer like that
They just committed some money I I mean I know they want to extend these guys I’m sure there’s no doubt about it but what do you think the likelihood is that the Diamondbacks can lock in at least the majority of this core to some extensions including maybe not Zack
Gallon but like Gabby Moreno and Alec Thomas and some of these other guys yeah there I mean I think there’s only a handful that would really make sense uh for an extension right now Gabby Moreno is one that we’ve we’ve talked about on this show uh a decent amount someone
That I think makes a lot of sense to extend if the Diamondbacks can find a way he came into the league so young that he would hit free agency at 28 uh you don’t necessarily want to extend a catcher out until they’re like 32 33 years old catchers tend to age a little
Bit worse than than a lot of other players just because of the toll that that role takes on your body but yeah when he’s our version of yachty you know yeah yeah I mean I I think that you would totally want to have Gabby Moreno
Here through his age 29 or age 30 season so I think that that definitely makes sense Zach gon is the other obvious one that you mentioned uh we’ve talked about that a little bit and how it it doesn’t seem super likely although I I wouldn’t say it’s totally impossible um something the Diamondback
Should do if they can right yeah um I I don’t know exactly what the ask is there but it’s probably very very high given how how good Zack Allen has been uh and then we talked about Christian Walker uh within the last week or two on the show
As well he is set to become a free agent after the 2024 season and we talked then about how there’s kind of this disconnect between you know what projection systems say Christian Walker is worth versus what Christian Walker has actually done he has been one of those players throughout really all of
His Diamondbacks career he just constantly outperformed what like the computers uh said he was he was going to do and that makes it tough because moving forward the Dbacks are going to probably want to pay him based on what the computers say he’s going to be those
Damn Compu but he’s also been a four War player in back-to-back Seasons I don’t know if you’re signing someone like that you know for 134 million a year for a couple more years so uh it it seems unlikely that that would happen but the Diamondbacks don’t have any clear
Options at first base after 20 24 as of right now there are some guys in the system who could certainly emerge but it’s unclear at this point who those guys are and if you could get another year or two of Christian Walker to kind of bridge that Gap it definitely could
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About a FanFest at this point um but we will we’ll find out we’ll get back to you with that information if they’re doing it it would probably happen fairly soon right next month or so and I know last year it was a uh was a season ticket holder uh ad Advantage member I
Think they call it exclusive event so we’ll see if that continues but uh another thing we’re hoping that continues is catel marte’s excellent season from 2023 and mo more importantly the role that he went on during the 2023 post season uh into the 2024 year uh and
We would love to see that catel uh is considered hitting right-handed over the off season yeah this was a this was a story uh that I think Nick Pororo wrote this uh right during spring training maybe the beginning of Spring training the catel Marte actually was was interested at
Least interested in trying what it would look like if he just hit right-handed instead of being a switch hitter it’s been this narrative for him for a while that he destroys left-handed pitching batting right-handed and uh his exit Vos as a right-handed hitter have been off
The charts for years it seems uh but his his ability to hit left-handed to be to hit right-handed pitching um has kind of come and gone and it was not there for him in 2022 so entering 2023 gave it a shot uh he did uh he did some work back
Home and kind of tried some things out but eventually came to the conclusion that seeing a slider from a right-handed pitcher is a heck of a lot more difficult when you’re batting right-handed than when you’re batting left-handed it’s just and that’s a really I mean that’s an adjustment that
Maybe he could have made years ago but at this point in his career that’s a pretty big adjustment to try to make uh to try to make all of a sudden and with how his 2023 season played out I think he made the right choice and just kind
Of keeping it as it is uh he had an outstanding 2023 season let’s take a look at his numbers from that 2023 season he averaged 276 with a 358 on base percentage and 485 slug he hit 25 home runs with 82 RBI and a 4.2 far uh
And yeah man I mean we I don’t think you could ask for much more then not only that consistency that he had throughout the season but then the carryover into the postseason the the hitting streak the historic hitting streak that he went on the everything he was able to do for
This team offensively uh I mean he was just a huge part of the reason why we saw this team advance to the World Series yeah he really was and and I mean his breakout this season was so big for the Diamondbacks and solidifying the middle of this lineup um he I mean he
Was just a he was a pretty consistent hitter like catel Marte was kind of hitting from the get-go in a way that not right Lis guel we’ve talked a lot about his extreme ups and downs Corbin Carrol we touched on yesterday how he was so good uh for you know a good chunk
Of the season but then kind of fell off for about 50 games or so in the middle Christian Walker was pretty consistent had some ups and downs of his own but yeah catel Marte one of the most consistent offensive contributors for this team throughout the season and a
Big part of this breakout for him going back to what we what we were talking about earlier was being able to hit right-handed pitching again um and if we look at this graphic which has a breakdown of catel splits uh against lefties and righties he was really good
Against both he was still better against lefties I don’t think that’s ever going to change catel is always going to be able to roll out of bed and just destroy the baseball against left-handed pitching um he did that in 2023 313 382 497 that was a slash against lefties but
Against righties he slashed 259 348 479 20 of his 25 home runs 70 of his 82 RBI came against right-handed pitching and that’s really what unlocked this this incredible 2023 season for him he just uh his his average exit vo against righties went from 89.1 miles per hour
In 2022 to 91.1 miles per hour in 2023 and his hard hit rate went from 40.1% to 44.1% I mean these it’s it’s it doesn’t sound like that big of a Improvement but it it it really is quite the jump right yeah yeah and I mean looking at at his season in
2022 he did uh he just was not good against right-handed pitching it wasn’t that catel was around League average or a little above League average he had a 696 Ops against righties in 2022 and that’s tough like most pitchers are right-handed you just you become a much less valuable player if you’re
Doing you know a big portion of your damage against lefties and even going back back to 2021 a season where catel was really good right he wasn’t healthy all that much he only played 90 games but his splits in 2021 he had a 792 Ops against righties which is good right he
Was good against righties but he had an 1171 against lefties like it was just so outrageously imbalanced this year he found a way to kind of bring things together a little bit where you know he maybe he wasn’t quite so crazy good against lefties but he actually was
Better against righties in 2023 than he was in 2021 and that’s huge for him I mean the more that he’s able to kind of you know find a way to be well above average against right-handed pitching that’s that’s really the biggest thing for for catel and and he did that in a
In a huge way in 2023 he’s been a member of the organization for Seven Seasons now and his 2017 through 2023 he’s played seven seven seasons with the diamond back and his best seasons 20 19 2021 2023 this doesn’t bode well for 2024 Jesse I hope that he breaks the trend
Finally yeah we touched on that a little bit yesterday he definitely has the uh the eveny year odd year thing going but those odd years those were pretty damn good years yeah those odd years are pretty good and the even years weren’t you know they they weren’t terrible um
2018 he was he was pretty good um so yeah we we’ll see if we’ll see if if he’s uh if he’s able to to overcome to overcome that this season and I was going to say do you think that that is what we’ll see do you think that we will
See because you know something to be said about some of those Seasons like 2022 was he was impacted by injuries and we saw how that did you know obviously limit him offensively and it limited him defensively they had the whole center field experiment there’s been a lot of
Things that haven’t worked out but I feel like this is the most consistency that he’s going to have going from 23 to 24 being healthy coming off that run you know and and hopefully still being hungry to want to get back to playing in that postseason considering he did what
He did in during the playoffs and made that history yeah I mean he was he was a star in the postseason right I mean he was he was right at the center of everything the Diamondbacks were doing in those first few rounds of the playoffs uh World Series a little bit of
A different story for a lot lot of hitters in this lineup but yeah he was the NLCS MVP for a reason as you said earlier and one of the better players in Diamondback’s history uh I mean he certainly has some kind of a longevity Factor at this point having played those
Seven seasons as we said earlier and uh he ranked sixth in Diamondbacks war of all time every player who’s ever dawned a Diamondbacks uniform he is sixth in wins above replacement and he’s in some pretty good company right it’s Randy Johnson it’s Kurt Schilling it’s Brandon
Webb uh it is Luis Gonzalez uh who is ahead of him as well Paul gold of course he’s right behind all of those guys so he has had a solid a solid career as a diamondback and yeah as far as whether it’s going to continue in 2024 catel he’s been a little
Unpredictable right I wish I could come out and say that I have utter confidence that catel will come out in 2024 and be the exact same player he was in 2023 uh Zips as we saw yesterday seems to think that that’s exactly what’s going to
Happen uh so you know that that at least said something to me that some of those underlying numbers are supporting catel coming out and having a good 2024 season but I health is a big factor and as you said he was not really healthy in 2022 even though he still played a good
Number of games he was healthy in 2023 probably the healthiest season he’s ever had in the majors I think that was a huge part of his success and I guess that’s a lot of what this comes down to in 2024 is is is catel healthy throughout at least most of the Season
Uh not trying to play through stuff the whole year as he kind of was in in 2022 Gabriel in the comments says cel’s number will be retired mark my words I hope you’re right uh I think of Michael’s question from mailbag Monday or Tuesday or whatever that was where
You know he asked about catel maybe playing you know DH and again it comes down to the health like I don’t hate that idea due to health but you have to have somebody that’s capable of playing second base I know his defense hasn’t been you know Stellar at times but he’s
Still been a pretty damn good second baseman out there and he’s also been a lot of fun to watch uh and I have the utmost confidence that he will still cut you off in traffic at some point on the way to the ballpark in the 2024 season
So I think that’s gonna happen uh basil or basil in the comments is asking about yubio dzo Yu signing a minor league deal is it just like an honorary deal that man is gonna be 50 years old this month I believe if I’m not mistaken later this
Month he turns 50 so my friend listens to the show I don’t think that’s him but I’m sure he’ll get a kick out of that you know what I uh I’d love to see it I’d love to see it bring him back let him have one big swing of the bat but
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Grief over the years in that role maybe he maybe he wouldn’t miss it it’s time to retire race and Gracie could tell with like the dreads hanging out the back and like the black and teal Jersey that go fire you want to run as catel
Few a few years from now yes that’s if you’re asking me I accept I will you run the way that catel runs out of the box when he walks oh yeah only but only on walks only on walks not the way he runs on Singles or doubles but uh okay
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Always nice uh temperature- wise around here we had an ESPN article drop talking about the temperature of each franchise can you explain this more temperature of a franchise is Jesse what is your favorite temperature Derek we should start there 84 degrees is my favorite temperature you’re a true
Arizona that’s a little warm oh 84 is 84 in the shade I can go with 84 in the sun that’s that could be a little warm it it just it reminds me of the old Lewis Black bit where he talked about imagine being a Weatherman in San Diego where
Your job every day is just to go on TV and go it’s nice outside back to you right so yeah like when I go to San Diego and it’s 86 and I’m on the beach I’m I’m I’m in a really good when is the 86 in San Diego though is that hot I
Don’t think I feel like s never reaches 86 76 76 yeah San Diego is the place where it is hairs for me because it’s all it’s all nice under 90 for me so I don’t know what we’re talking about 78 is like beautiful yeah give me somewhere in the
High 70s yeah I mean again I’m with Damon there I I want to go in the water though I want to go in the water is what I’m I’m it’s the Puerto Rican in you AB right yeah only eat fried foods and drink liquor and go in the water so the
The idea here D is that every team starts at 72° which they’re defining as like room temperature so when the Diamond Backs that’s what every hotel room is set at when I go inside room room temperature so when the Diamond Backs were birthed back in 99
1998 they were born at with a body temperature of 72 degrees which I think is a medical emergency but it worked out it was all right they did they they didn’t they weren’t so great in ’98 but they they they bounced back and doctors used to be weird
Doctors were weird back in 98 I guess uh yeah they were they were maybe a little chilly when they were first born but they warmed up uh pretty quick obviously with how things turned out so this scale starts you at 72 it starts you at 72 and
Then you kind of I think you you get 90% of your previous year’s temperature automatically and then beyond that you get bonuses for uh for making the playoffs or having a 95 win season or they just have all these different things based on team success that bump
Your temperature back up uh so you might wind up um you might wind up losing temperature over time or you might wind up gaining it and it kind of all averages out to 72 degrees to perfect room temperature if you have like a a drought of not making the playoffs and
Experiencing a significant number of losses every single year sure you’re just essentially temperature is going to go down by 90% every year with not much to yeah well and you would lose I mean you I think you’ll lose points in other ways too um that that part is a little
Unclear to me this is a weird formula I think this is based off something that Bill James did back in the day so of course it’s going to be very heavy mathematical and odd um but yeah the Arizona Diamondbacks Derek uh are very comfortable uh very cool and comfortable
At 70.1 degrees okay uh so just a little bit lower than they started out at back in back in 98 but obviously the World Series run helped them gain gain some ground in 2023 and they we’re back close to close to room temperature that ranks 13th in baseball that is the 13th
Highest temperature in baseball where of course the best teams are have the highest temperatur so they’re slightly above average in that sense that actually makes quite a bit of sense because this franchise as a whole over time has not had a tremendous amount of success right they haven’t had a
Tremendous amount of playoff runs rarely uh have we put together uh I don’t if we I don’t think we have even put together was back-to-back playoff runs no well I mean not yeah the very the very early days right right right right right so I mean I
Think that’s the big thing right uh not a lot of Seasons where even though we won a lot of games we fell short of the division or making the playoffs so most of the time the Diamond Backs have been fairly mediocre they’ve been around an 80 win team it feels like the entire
Time this franchise has existed there’s been a lot of middling Seasons except the early on times right like it’s hard to think back and remember how good like 99 was and 20 000 2001 was and how many games the teams were winning around that time but yeah no I mean this makes sense
You said ranks 13th in baseball considering how young of a franchise it is I guess that’s pretty good but I guess it also really doesn’t matter much because most of these teams have had so much history behind this temperature index that I imagine that it fluctuates
A lot more based on yes how many years they’ve existed for yeah and that that might be the best part of this this is all based on an ESPN article by the way um you can go check this out if you’re interested in finding out what all the
Team’s temperatures are it’s a kind of a bizarre but sort of fun thing um they have they have each team’s franchise Peak and then uh the lowest point that each franchise has ever been at over the course of their history um so the Arizona Diamond bags if I go back to
Them here on my list real quick the Diamondbacks peaked when when do you think the Diamondbacks Peaks 2001 yeah yeah it’s yeah it’s about as obvious as you yeah uh so 125.638 I’m not an expert in still hot enough for a steak to be cooked on the outside I’m thinking but yeah no I mean yeah they didn’t they had that instant success we’ve talked about it a lot we talked about Jerry colangelo’s uh you know obviously impact on the
Diamondbacks going from the kind of families hanging out at a park fairy tale that they originally kind of seemed like they were going to try to be to a winner that won fast and uh since then not a lot of winning you know or at least the winning has been sporadic
That’s what makes this period of time so exciting we were looking forward to the 2025 season Gabriel right there on screen I think at one point was like World Series champs 2025 I remember that uh and that was just like something that we kind of threw out there because we
Felt like this team was finally getting something you know cooking to start the 2023 season and man how far they came in just one year I think this could be that period of time where the Diamondbacks able to put together some potential successful postseason runs in in in back
Toback years for the first time in franchise history yeah yeah and uh I mean I I guess we can also talk about the uh the lowest point ever in Diamondbacks history uh which came in 2022 I was gonna say did it coincide with the start of this podcast because I
Feel like it pretty much yeah they say 2022 I mean it feels like uh 2021 would have been I I guess they were still a losing team in 2022 they lost less it was still a bad year though where they didn’t make the playoffs didn’t have a winning record
Didn’t yeah really do much more than at least start pushing the ball in the right direction from the right terrible 2021 season yeah they were they were at 42 degrees that was their lowest point um which means it has never Frozen Diamondbacks have never Frozen and uh that’s actually saying something because
Uh Cleveland Guardians back in 19 93 reached 10.7 de uh the Oakland A’s 9.8 Dees back in 1967 oh I was going to say what was that now that feels like the Oakland A is now yeah yeah honestly uh yeah I mean they’ve got to be the
Oakland A are actually right in the middle the Oakland A are 15th on this list at 56.5 degrees separate I think going back to what we were talking about earlier I don’t think you I I think you were right in that you you drop the you
You get 90% of your degrees from the previous year automatically but I don’t think anything takes points away so the A’s aren’t getting like destroyed for the fact that they’ve been just abysmal the last few years they’re just kind of dropping in the way that a lot of other
Teams would uh so I guess it kind of makes sense why they’d be uh sort of in the middle here who do you think is the the hottest team in all of baseball right now I want to say this St Louis Cardinals it’s not the St Louis
Cardinals uh they are sixth they’re up there okay uh Team teams that have a lot of especially recent sustained success Dodgers Astros Dodgers are too Astros are one yeah the Astros are at to see you here in the chat uh we appreciate all of you guys for being
Here hope you guys have a wonderful weekend by the way uh speaking of weekend we have a very special episode dropping tomorrow on Saturday so make sure not to miss that uh I don’t know when it’s it’s am I am I peeling back the curtain too much by like telling
Them it’s pre-recorded or did I already do that I mean you just did it right now right now I think now that’s what time you want that to drop one what time should we drop it at one yeah we’ll drop it at one think T at 1 I know should
This is actually what we do I think last Saturday we did it at 1 p.m. so we we’ll s we’ll proba stick with tradition 1 o’ pretend like I didn’t just tell you any of that we’ll see you live tomorrow at one o’clock on Saturday you nothing yeah
For yeah just uh Men In Black little device thing I was thinking Jedi mind trick but we’re on the same wavel yeah I disappointed myself I should have gone Jedi mind trick yeah for sure the show is not going to be pre-recorded all right well we will see you guys of
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Just didn’t it just didn’t happen feeling it today I don’t I don’t have an explanation for that my my brain just like didn’t work he was he’s just he’s just wants to quit early he just gave up on me so I got Derrick I got my friends
At illegal eats that’s all I need yeah that’s that’s fair demon doesn’t need me anyway but you know what you’re still taking him to heila River right not including me on the boys trip so whatever but anyway we’re reinking we’re rethinking all right well you should uh
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