The guys are going for $50K in the fantasy football finals! Shawn Siegele and Colm Kelly are joined by Tom Strachan of @TheFFSanctuary and Erik Hove to discuss how one of their rosters could win the top prize in the FFPC Superflex Best Ball Finals with a chance at $50,000.
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27:00 Tom’s Elite QB team
33:00 Erik’s Late QB Team
38:00 Zachs Team
41:00 OT Team
51:00 Outro
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Well one of these rosters win $50,000 this weekend that is pretty exciting when we have well there’s four here in the room but we also have our good buddy Zachary Krueger who couldn’t join us he is traveling at the moment over the holidays we’ll talk a little bit about
His team as well because the roote of his best ball show he was on with me for that Series last year and um these are the teams that I’m certainly rooting for this week but I am roting for OT more than the other teams I will hold my
Hands up and admit that I’m sure each individual person here will admit that as well well we’re recording this before Thursday Night Football we will be talking a little bit about players involved in that mainly from our roster with the Jets and the Browns going head-to-head there we’ll also talk about
Some of the injury news possible implications and the roster ship percentages across the board but we’re kicking things off in OT I think Sean this maybe maybe one of the first four person shows we have ever done in the history of OT so this one should be fun
We’re going to bounce around all the teams but Sean just tell the listeners why we’re going to win this contest this weekend that’s all we really care about well as you mentioned we have some Thursday Night Football which always throws a wrinkle into these Thursday during the day shows but
Colum Justin Fields you really need one quarterback in the superflex here just the one QB because with the way the scoring format works you need the rest of your players to hit in a way that they knock your second QB out which is also something we need since we don’t have a second
QB we also haven’t had a QB Sean the last two weeks either let’s be clear well Justin Fields missed a chunk of time and Sam H how carried us and everybody who’s frustrated with Sam H how which I very justifiably there are many people like
That he did what he needed to do to get us to this point and now Justin Fields has to do his job he was the first round pick he’s got to do it but colum we are going to win because we have and we are the only team that has Christian
Mcaffrey Breece Hall and James Cook that Trio there if they all hit obviously individual players there are covered we’ve got the trio they all go off we win it but Callum I mean this is so much fun to be in this for the second year a
Couple years ago when we were in the normal contest we had Mike Leone on the show we have two of our favorite people with us today and it’s such a a great OT connection here because Tom made it through the OT listener League which is our favorite draft every year and then
Eric and I have been doing some drafts together he was in the contest the previous year to draft with me we drafted a team in the 350 version of the ffpc we did a number of teams together this year he did a fantastic job filling in when I was traveling earlier this
Year hosting the show Tom Eric so excited to have you guys on and I mean I feel like one of your two teams is going to win it so you’re going for their teams are are going to come out on top the one thing I want to let the
Listeners know is Tom did let us know before we started recording here that the team he drafted in the OT listener League he was cooking some I believe it was some C you were cooking Tom white drafting that roster and you you’ve come out on top there it was musaka which is
A Mediterranean dish and uh yeah I seem to remember I tend to cook musaka because it’s my wife’s favorite dish normally when I’m in a little bit of trouble I want to get back into the good books but also if there’s a reason where like you know I’m trying to find a bit
Of extra time where I can squeeze out of a weekend or squeeze into an evening then looking for those dishes where I’m like right this is going to take me an hour hour and a half to make I’ve got enough time to draft in this period And
I wasn’t going to miss the root of his overtime listener League because they’re a lot of fun and this one I believe I was drafting after you guys you guys were at the 106 I was at the 107 and it wasn’t my favorite Draft when
I finished him in there but it had a lot of players who I liked you know I had Z flowers Jordan Addison in there who I felt like had a lot of upside Debo Samuel was some one who I was very high on this year I thought he was being
Undervalued and yeah I kind of got by it running back really enough with um Jaylen Warren Bean Robinson Brian Robinson Gus Edwards these kind of guys you’ve just done enough but one of the big things for me was puka nura who I took I think it was in the 20th round
Was a player who just wasn’t drafted everywhere in these leagues and going into this weekend he’s 10% rosted which is perhaps I kind of hoped he might be sub 10% in this 50 man final but is still a good enough Difference Maker but the the real thing which we can’t just
Ignore here is my team is the only team in the finals to have jacobe brassette the now star mandz so if Jobe Brett is what you need then I’m winning the 50k yeah I thought you were trying to get on into like the good books with me and
Sean with the conversation started so not the fact that there’s two teams in this final with Sam how and we’re one of them and now that you know the fact we have one quarterback is due to that and uh but you never know when you get into the final situations here having every
Piece you can so obviously we’re losing the piece and that’s an advantage for you but having that piece you you look at how some of the teams are made up in this for example your team is a baker Mayfield team who is there’s 17 out of
The 50 there’s 50 teams in this final 34% rostered so like you know he’s got you here but ideally for you in the situation with one jacobe brette team he would be the one that has a a big day and it helps give you an edge from that
Perspective we have to ask Eric though Eric were you cooking while drafting or or do you remember the experience not much it’s a good question yeah unfortunately I don’t have uh nearly as exciting of a story of drafting mine I don’t remember drafting it it was a slow
Draft uh did a lot of the slow super Flex drafts always have a always have something going and something on the mind to uh to mole over um but yeah very excited for the team I got a Rams super stack going into the weekend uh which I
Feel good about other than not having Kiren Williams so I’m I’m pretty scared of a a three touchdown on the ground uh game as they battle the the Giants this weekend but um yeah feeling good about the team um and the contest as a whole it’s uh interesting to see all the
Different you know ownerships across the board and the different players that are represented heavily and and not heavily um I was looking last tonight I think like there’s no AJ Brown teams there’s one Kelsey team uh so it’s funny how kind of the the sifting stand of the
Year in the last few weeks can kind of eliminate some players that would be pretty dangerous here at the end yeah really much over the last couple of weeks in particular as some of the players who would have been really projected to be heavily owned have tailed off and then like for example
James cuu may have pushed a lot of these teams into advancing at the end of the line there we have James Cook Sean mentioned the three we have but only four James Cook teams in it at a 8% roster ship there so there’s a couple of interesting players like that across the
Board there’s other players then which I’ll show up here we’ll go through some of the highest rostered players and I find it a little bit interesting to see some of these names and some of the names that are higher rostered that may be concerned people may be listening to
This after Thursday Night Football Amari Cooper is somebody who has had some injury reports over the week he is one of the the higher owned players highest owned wide receiver on the board 15 teams 30% so that would obviously impact dependent on his Thursday night performance the outlook for a lot of
Teams here none of us having him on the team but you have a David and joku team Eric which you know if aari Cooper is not 100% they may go through the tight end there that’s the way that team has gone the last couple of weeks between
Those two guys Jordan Addison with his ankle injury cordin Sutton is in concussion protocol Isaiah beu is in concussion protocol Cole Kat has a knee injury as of time of record on Thursday uh he has not yet practiced so we’ll see what happens there but the players you
Would expect to be heavily rostered Christian mcaffry is on 29 of the teams that is 58% Bree Hall then it drops all the way down to 24% and I think if it’s a player on a fifth of The rosters in these based on the combinations then
Beyond that I’m I think that like I think this is quite a diverse field outside of Christian McCaffrey and Beaker Mayfield Amari Cooper and Sam laap pora they’re the only players at 30 or above and then you have Mike Evans at 28% Adam Thon 26 and Chris olav at 24
But I was looking at some information just before we started recording which I thought was interesting in terms of the construction so Jared gof and Sam leaport gof is the second highest rostered quarterback we have Sam laapa then as the highest rostered tight end there is no golf Sam laor teams stacked
In this final which I thought was quite interesting I thought he would have been a piece that people would have been trying to add into those golf rosters but obviously based on ADP may not have been getting done very often then Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans both of those
Heavily uh rostered as a combination but less than half of those so there’s 47% of the teams eight of those having that combination and then phills with Kat is kind of on the opposite side there’s less teams there’s five of them but that is 83% of Justin Field’s teams are
Paired with Cole Kat so again we’ll see what his status will be for Sunday looking at some of the players here that are on the high side where we expect some of these to be more highly owned Shan were we expecting it to be balanced
This is I think this is a very balanced across the board final with lots of players then you know sub 10% that will be very interesting this weekend yeah when you look at these quarterbacks that’s interesting to see Mayfield there after you know he takes
So much flak in the off season there are questions about if he’ll even be the starter you know I had wrote I had written pretty favor about the potential for Mike Evans and Chris Godwin to outperform because Baker Mayfield was either going to be a much lesser drop from Tom Brady or perhaps
Even an upgrade of course the players I wanted to Target there were Evans and Godwin not necessarily Mayfield he makes it through I guess I’m a little bit surprised that he’s that high even with what he has done of course it it’s going to be a little bit different here than
In best Bal Mania for example because all of the starting quarterbacks are very valuable and when you have that sort of two pieces together again one of the things I do want to emphasize I presented it in a half joking manner earlier but I don’t think
You necessarily want to have two QBs in your lineup it’s interesting that Mayfield is able to pull some many of these teams through I guess I’m not that scared of the Mayfield Evans match but it is interesting to see Tom as you look at this who are you most scared of is it
A situation where and if I’m remember what I looked at I mean neither you Tom nor Eric have Christian mcaffrey are you most worried about being buried by the half of teams that have him or do you have some other guys here where you’re thinking that’s the guy who is really a
Problem for my roster I mean obviously the the whole thing here I mean any of these guys go off you don’t have it’s going to be problematic but as you’re looking at these games as you’re looking at the builds what are you most scared of yeah and I think what you mentioned
Quarterbacks is really interesting as well because you look at sort of like the top six guys in sort of seven or eight guys really in roster ship in this final and only justtin fields at 12% was somebody who was being consistently taken in the first round what we see is
Guys Who provided value earlier later on and it has been the Christian mcaffrey and even Bree Hall kind of drafters that have really dragged teams to the final in some cases so not having Christian mcaffrey feels quite daunting particularly with them playing the commanders who are like
Bottom two defense in both run and pass dvoa my hedge really will have to be that Debo is going to get more of a points but I mean we’ve just seen from Christian mcaffrey the ners they’re not easing off on him in any way they you know they’re giving him huge workloads
Every week so I think he can be particularly you know a Difference Maker this week jir Gibbs as well like he’s become you know strength to strength over the last few weeks rb3 in kind of back-to-back games and the game against the Cowboys isn’t necessarily the best match but you
Look at the over runers and it’s a 54 point over under by far the highest of the weekend so part of me worries about what my roster which is very much Sunday heavy in its players is going to be facing to climb but I think look looking at the other quarterback pairings in
This in this final I have Lamar Jackson and Dak Prescot I already mentioned jacobe brusett and bakeer Mayfield and I think that if Elite quarterback play shines through this weekend and if Lamar has an incredible game against Miami which we saw him do at the beginning of
Last season and Dak Prescott if he lives up to his part of his 54 point over under there that could make a big difference for me and it would make a bit of potentially a bit of a difference for the 16% Michael Gallup shares which are in there he hasn’t been particularly
Good this year but like if he came out of nowhere and had a big game that might make a bit of a difference to that area of the draft against players who were drafted who maybe aren’t performing in that sort of area and I I think it’s interesting as well when you mentioned
Some of the stuff there about you know the players that have gone through but you know the first and second round if we look at that from when these teams would have been drafted it really is well obviously in super Flex it might be the first four rounds but it is very
Much focused on the higher end running backs that have advanced here and then you mentioned some of the quarterbacks you have so it’s been a quite a unique season and then even the playoff weeks have been quite unique with how some of the players who maybe got people here
Didn’t perform but you know some players even like a Chris Al who had missed quite a bit of the season in and out and not having huge performances you know been one of the higher drafted players and thand had a good start but really tailed off and then had a okay week last
Week it’s interesting just to see how that has played out Eric anything for you stting out on the higher rostered players before we move into the yeah yeah so I I thankfully do have Christian mcaffry so I’ll sleep uh good on Saturday night going into Sunday uh knowing that he definitely would scare
Me uh if I didn’t have him on my roster um I was telling Sean I think by email that uh I honestly did not draft that much uh Christian mcaffry and I I probably drafted the most of him in the super Flex uh contest once you got to
The the back half of the first round all the quarterbacks kind of dried up and he was a pick for me there a lot so uh thankful that I did that uh here in this contest a bit um I think the guys I’m probably the most scared of are actually
Um over at the tight end column uh as much leaport as I drafted and as much McBride as I drafted I have uh neither of them and uh honestly noal yeah what I would call Elite tight end so I definitely am scared of a big tight end
Score week um so for me I’m I’m uh you know put a lot of Hope in in joku hopefully he can get me you know at least 15 plus uh I know he’s had a couple real big weeks um I’m not expecting another you know 30 point uh
Outing but something there that can at least get me by and hopefully um you know guys like KD guys like leaport and McBride will uh at least for this week uh keep it tamped down uh it’s very odd rooting against guys you’ve been rooting for all season but those are a couple
Guys that I hope have uh a little more ho home days yeah that it does feel strange but that is the way sometimes in these contests you you do have to to to root so we’ll move into the lower auster guys and if I was looking at one name
There and sometimes it’s not the guy who is at the top of the list so those guys with green beside them that are really heavily owned but we obviously you mentioned Debo we have Christian mcaffrey George Kettle has had a number of plays over the last couple of weeks
Where he has nearly you know gone 75 yards for a touchdown and it feels like although the volume isn’t really there like he is really looking as good as he has over the last couple of years and he is somebody who you know we have seen in
The past you know those two or three touchdown games so kle even on six rosters could be somebody who absolutely annihilates the the entire slit here for for this particular contest so moving into the lower rostered players and I I find it quite interesting because some
Of the names that aren’t on this but are just above it for example Dak Prescott was in the quarterback side for the higher roster players with CD lamb only on five rosters which is 10% of the teams in this there some names down at the bottom end here which get very
Intriguing but I have split this into quarterbacks running backs and tight ends we’ll look at this first but we do have the wide receivers then coming up any names here Sean for you again standing out as surprised that just there Travis kelse is probably that with
One team through maybe be the one but uh there three k pets team Sean were rooting for pets this week he may be our only tight end available anyone else stting out for you that it seems like there would have been more of these teams getting
Through well I do have to mention pits and say that we are projecting AER eight for 120 and two game for him I me this week no manifested it into being we think Jaylen Wadd is he’s either going to be out or just like how could you possibly play him we’re gonna be
Playing him on our main event team that’s in 14th which means I mean he’s going to carry all of these teams to Victory it’s going to be a Kyle Pitts week after the week this question of like is Kyle Pitts a bust is it his fault is it
Arthur Smith’s fault that’s going to all be in the past because he has such a big game no it’s interesting to look at some of these here obviously when you look at Kyler Murray when you look at Jaylen Herz those guys have the potential to jayen one one jayen hars team you know
Amazing yeah only four Allen teams zero teams you know there’s there that’s what I mentioned about you know obviously there’s less chance of that completely overtakes the rest of the field because of the lower percentage but no big Jill and hearts week this week and getting like you mentioned the potential for
Lamar to do it that you know 30 plus Point quarterback week can can really make a big difference in this format and we thought it was an advantage for us that James Cook timed his poor game such that there are only four teams in we would love to see him
Go off know Naji Harris continues to like hold his own in that battle with the Steelers it’s always possible that he gets you know two or three touchdowns because he’s you know he’s breaking some tackles he doesn’t have the explosiveness Ian he’s clearly not their better player but if he’s going to get
That opportunity if you know Mason Rudolph actually moves the ball when you think about unlikely outcomes but outcomes that certainly the scenario is there you think about these goal line backs I mean Derrick Henry could have an absolutely massive game I mean there’s the potential for the Lions to play well
And David Montgomery to hit four touchdowns I mean I remember playing in one of these finals I think it was um D’Angelo Williams and the big back for the Giants at the time one of you guys will have to fill a name in they they combined for seven touchdowns in that
Game and they were both on the roster against there’s the potential for huge touchdown games for some of these running backs Kiren Williams jumping out there with only the four teams that part is surprising certainly those four managers have to be excited about what he could potentially do Tomy there’s GNA
Be there’s GNA be a 30-point game somewhere here possibly a 40-point game I mean do you have a guy that looks like he could go off for 40 here and be like the definitive player in this title weekend I don’t think it’s gonna be nii but niji really scares me this weekend
Because Seahawks run defense is like the fifth worst team in run defense DVA over the last five games and it just feels like you know Jaylen Warren Advanced at a higher rate I took a good stance on Jaylen Warren this year but nji Harris G
Coming back to bite me right in week 17 Championship weekend would feel very on brand um I think looking at these players I mean Joe mixon’s had so much opportunity at times like we saw last week he had a bit more work than Chase Brown had you know been eating into I
Think the in terms of the matchups the chief’s run defense is terrible so I think that Joe Mixon could be okay but I don’t think he’s probably really got like a 30o game in him looking at it though I mean if if we went down a 4% I
Have bean Robinson who’s like only on two rosters and bean Robinson just feels like he’s always on the cusp of these things before arur Smith arur Smiths him and we saw last week like he had a 36% Target share 10 targets which are a career high so that’s what I keep
Telling myself that the big blowup game is coming with the low Advance rate like you want but the team with Travis Kelsey I was looking at their roster they’ve also got Tyreek Hill and it feels like if those two players combine and really go off that could create a kind of Gulf
Which is going to be pretty difficult for the rest of us to really try and Claw back so we’ll jump over to wide receivers for the less than 10% guys and we’ll let Eric take his Peck here there’s a huge am you mentioned Debo in your roster for example four Deo teams
Of 8% there’s a lot of interesting names I know uh Zach is very interested in Jamar Chase and if he’s healthy this week There’s four Jamar Chase teams four Almon R and brown teams four Rashi rice three for jsn three for Z flowers lots and lots of interesting names on this
Particular list and we mentioned a couple of weeks ago Shan that on back toback week DeAndre Hopkins both broke our hearts and then broke our hearts again for two very different reasons he’s on one team in this particular uh format so there’s lots of players that could make big differences even the
Likes of a DK meta only rostered on on one team Eric who scares you in the less than 10% or is it a player that you have that you think will make the difference for you yeah for sure so yeah I’m I’m definitely excited to have uh the heavy
Ram stack uh going into the weekend so I have uh both cup and AA uh on the squad uh paired with Stafford so uh from the last slide I’m I’m terrified of kyen Williams eating up all the touchdowns but if that does not happen I feel good
That that that game will uh generate some points and hopefully they’ll go to the right players um those are two guys I’m very excited to have I think in terms of the scariest on this list uh and I’m very glad that he’s only down at three uh teams rostered but is Justin
Jefferson um I think that’s the uh the hammer game on Sunday night and with the rest of the Vikings uh seemingly you know on ir and likely not to play um you know I could to see him you know racking up like a 15 Target game and and doing
One of his Classic 100 plus yards and a couple touchdowns so was the final game that was the Sunday Night Football game two seasons ago when we were with an Aon Rogers Devante Williams team that the Packers were so far ahead at halftime that they they just caned two we had two
First half Devonte Adams touchdowns and Sean then it was all down to speaking of Baker Mayfield could have come all full circle this year it was Hond Jarvis Landry and Monday Night Football that didn’t get us over the line but Sean any names here before we get into
Things that we do want to talk about from two years ago anything here St night for you I think that there are going to be some big games from some unlikely sources I think that will be part of the story and we have players like a Marvin Mims I’m
Excited to see how the benching of Russell Wilson perhaps impacts how they play doesn’t necessar mean it’s going to be an overall upgrade that would be a little bit of a surprise but sometimes it will unlock a specific player then someone who has had no impact this year
But if somebody caught a couple of 60- yard touchdowns I mean he has the type of profile who could do that jayen hayatt somebody who has a couple of big games this year and then a bunch of zeros yeah but if you’re gonna have the big game here this would be the time
Scenario I mean Eric bouncing back to you do you have a player on your roster who hasn’t scored hardly any points for you that you think that week 17 could be his coming out party yes I do I was hoping you throw it my way um so
Saturday night got Detroit Lions and the Dallas Cowboys and uh Jam one and only Jamon Williams has been uh heating up a little bit last few weeks more and more playing time getting some targets looking good uh seems like Dan Campbell’s fired up to have some some J
Uh so yeah so I would love a bom or two uh to him for a touchdown and uh it honestly would would help uh negate some of the you know kind of heavy um Detroit Lions ownership on leapa and Amron guys like that so I would I would love a j Mo
Game for the one time yeah and Sean mentioned uh Russell Wilson you know been Bing Marvin Mims I do have like although it will be beneficial to non Russell Wilson teams like our team in this contest that like we’re losing Sam Howell who has played really bad the
Last two weeks and we kind of had that fear it could happen that was a a real Sur surprise over the last couple of days you know with them benching him this week ahead of the finals so I have to you know feel a little bit of empathy
With the Russell Wilson managers this week entering this competition Sean I did do a deep dive it took me a little bit of time there about 2008 week 16 34 to the Giants 28 to the Panthers we got D’Angelo Williams 24 for 108 and four touchdowns it was Bron
Jacobs 24 for 87 three touchdowns going his way but Sean was three touchdowns to Bron Jacobs in that game Derek Ward had 15 carries for 215 yards and no touchdowns in that game so that the running backs were an insane game it was crazy the running backs were lighting
Things up in that particular game both quarterbacks sub w86 passing yards so all about the running game in that week 16 Clash for the Fant we were involved in a free-for-all and it’s like the the team was the best team was going to score was going to score a lot of points
It reminds me a lot of this past week where Pat and I are in the 1250 level R of is triflex we scored 190 behind Bree Hall Christian mcaffry Josh Allen what have you we’re nine points down going into the second week of it the Amari Cooper manager put up
199 and I mean I probably shouldn’t be bringing in this up at this point in time but that’s structured so the first place is 7,000 second places 2500 I would like to win see how that goes Tom who’s going to be the MVP from this board here in week
17 I really like a lot of the matchups that I’ve got on my roster this weekend I think the Ravens kind of Stack against Miami if things go nuclear I’ll be very happy um but yeah for me it comes back to either Debo Samuel because Washington
Plays so much two high looks and he’s just dominating against them he is the first read on pretty much all of those or perhaps PUK Aura because Giants their defense is just completely tailed off so I’ve got more confidence in those two players than virtually anybody particularly the running back room it
Just feels like I’m skating by a little bit and I feel like that’s what’s going to let me down mostly with your team Tom um obviously courland suton I mentioned earlier in the show U and concussion protocol we had seen players who were in concussion protocol basically never be
Out of concussion protocol for the following week over the last 3 weeks I don’t know what the the changes in the protocol are but a lot more players are getting out of the protocol within the same week but obviously if he plays any concerns with the switch from Russell
Wilson but you have a few players here which and a team that has been quite healthy throughout the season couple of players heading into this week outside of the quarterback position that that have some concerns around them um Addison suton you know how are you feeling and the other question I just
Have to you was like I’m kind of I was going to ask you your concerns I’m trying to set up your concerns here for you but uh the other part of it was Sean mentioned our roster and we’ll look at it in a little bit more depth in a
Minute but we drafted two quarterbacks youve have four quarterback six running backs Six Wide Receiver three tight end build here was that an approach you were taking in this contest or in general with super Flex this season how do you feel about it at this point overall so
It wasn’t typically what I was going after for quarterback builds I mean I I love the r of his tools you guys have for looking at what’s historically worked in these drafts and I spent a lot of time in the offseason kind of like playing with different perations and
Working out okay what’s been slightly more optimal if I take a quarterback here how much should I be aiming for um but it was more just a little bit of a hedge against Baker Mayfield who was my qb3 really like I didn’t have as much Faith as apparently I should have had in
Baker Mayfield and I didn’t ever feel as much conviction about Sam Howell as you guys did so for me it was looking at going okay can I you know Hammer together a third quarterback between two different players and I took jacobe brassette in round 18 at which point
Obviously picks don’t really kill you as much if you get them wrong and it’s been one of those very few rosters I’ve had in the super Flex format where all my quarterbacks have stayed healthy like I think so much of what we’re seeing across baseball tournaments this year
Are teams that haven’t had a full roster of quarterbacks like I had teams advancing into week 16 with no healthy quarterbacks and you can get by at certain levels but sooner or later that attrition just catches up on you so yeah I think C back back I have no worries
About it whatsoever but then between Brian Robinson being banged up and having little reason to come back and play dein single ter taking on the Titans who are a good run defense when they want to be and then Jordan Addison and courland certain being banged up it
Feels like I’m probably going to be relying on a second tight end in my Flex spot and I’m going to need two quarterbacks in my in my starting lineup as well so I don’t have as much wiggle room as I’ve had for the entire season definitely yeah and it can be
Interesting like for example if Mark Andrews was healthy going into this week like tight end would be much more of a concern so there is certain things that have worked out throughout the season to fall into those parts but that team that me and Sean mentioned from two years ago
We were like at this point trying to pitch together like the tread and the needle between the injuries and hoping at that point that Elijah Moore was going to be back off and Reserve to give us an extra you know attempt to to add some points to the lineup and you
Touched on the quarterback injuries which has been a big factor so you have four healthy starting quarterbacks heading into this weekend which not a lot of teams are going to have at this particular point and the other part of that is Shawn did mention you know having those other players fing in as
Your second flex but this is a roster which will likely be driven by the the second Flex being the quarterback which would also make sense in this particular instance look I’m terrified of that Prescott Lamar Jackson double there I mean that could wipe us all out yeah
Like if they if they have big days and put up you know 25 plus into the 30 like those guys can put up 35 points each and then like that is well that’s that’s why you drafted them that’s the reason for uh moving and Eric to your roster here
Led by Brock py who had a tougher week last week but you mentioned you know I’m surprised as well there’s you know quite a few there’s 14% Bree young teams I don’t think I think they’re being powered by Young himself I think they’re being they’re being dragged along with
Him but um Matthew Stafford you mentioned him and then you have CP Cooper cup and puka AA which you know could give you a a big Edge because there’s just six Matthew Stafford teams five Cooper Cup teams and then you have five pooka teams as well so it is one of
Those situations when you’re looking at pivot Points between the different rosters as to where those points go when you’re looking at particularly the likes of the Lions and then you’re looking at the 4 ners there’s just so many ways those touchdowns and so on can be
Divided up but this is a situation where if it’s through the air you’re in really good shape because you also have Tyler Higby and if it’s on the ground it’s going to be one of those ones where your C sha mcy at the end of the day yes yes
It it definitely could be yeah and I uh yeah was was tilting the uh was Thursday last week when when Cooper cup had a couple potential End Zone uh catches that they were tough catches but they I would classify them as drops and those were painful and so I’m I’m crossing my
Fingers that just not happen in uh this week um I’m feeling good about the squad uh like I said earlier I think uh in terms of concerns yeah yeah very healthy which I’m uh thankful for um concerns is probably tight end uh it’s probably despite having four probably one of the
Weaker uh tight end rooms I drafted on uh ffpc uh this year so I’m hoping hoping we can get uh some kind of 20o score out of that uh collection of guys I haven’t heard if uh if Henry is going to be healthy and back this week but
That would be a big boost um and then probably the second concern I feel great about the running backs uh Des Sean’s point about uh quarterbacks I feel you know great having pry and Stafford and and hoping they can fill uh one of the slots um I think it’s probably uh at
Receiver like I have some good receivers but like you really need um you know at least three big scores from receiver and I could see you know getting one uh maybe two from cup nakua and then hopefully iuk uh is the guy but beyond that uh definitely some thinner plays if
Wadd is not playing so uh certainly hope wad will miraculously be playing this week uh but if not I think receivers is the other uh area where I’m just hoping I can get kind of that uh big uh third or fourth score to put in the lineup
Yeah so you have the two lions and Gibbs and Williams then you have the two 49ers and mcaffrey and auk and obviously those guys can all get there and put up big numbers but you know that path is a little bit more it’s tighter for both of
Them to H but I guess the other part of that is you have two darts at two of the higher scoring offenses in the NFL so you know it can still work out for you but I have to say the one thing I would pick out of this team is it’s a
3584 roster you mention you’re comfortable with the running backs to have five running backs of Christian mcaffrey Gibbs Tony Pard hasn’t had the season that we have hoped for so far but then chuba hubard who has had a really strong finish this season and have forward in there as well that’s
A even though we’re probably disappointed in parl season I think you’ve you’ve nailed pecking five running back because five running backs can be thin selections on a you know a roster of this size how do that and can you give us your secret Eric you and I
Drafted quite a few teams together and you’ve taken this idea of waiting on the quarterbacks not to an extreme necessarily but certainly you followed one of the things that we were talking about where if you don’t get a clear qb1 to wait on it and it’s given you a
Incredible team in terms of running backs and wide receivers by sort of punting on both QB and tight end which again has some downsides as you mentioned but to have a team with McCaffrey Gibbs and Pard that also has iuk cup and Wadd to be able to get cup
Through even though he has the Bad season to have all that Firepower and then I mean this team here is a real tribute to Great late round drafting as well because your quarterbacks are actually strong you hit on both hubard and Ford you hit on ncua
I mean this team is so loaded and partly what you did was you know rely on the the idea that the evidence does suggest that waiting on QB will work but then also you relied on your strength as a drafter and believed in yourself to hit
On some of these guys now we talk about overconfidence sometimes and how we want to be careful about that but you also I mean you have to believe that you can actually draft a good team and you’ve gone out and you’ve drafted a great team here cool I appreciate that but yeah and
I definitely leaned into the the late quarterback uh this year in superlex and feel uh really good about uh how that turned out uh I wish that I uh I kind of included like Herbert and Mahomes and uh and burrow and that kind of top quarterback tier that I always would
Take in the first round if they were there and those picks certainly did not work out but uh punting kind of the rest of the quarterbacks from the end of round one through about round three uh was really helpful uh in the tournament this year so Sean as we move on here
Zach did asked me to get Sean seagull’s thoughts on his roster that he’s feeling pretty good but he was disappointed he couldn’t jump on with us to make it a you know bigger round table here as we get ready for this weekend but he is also a baker Mayfield team with jar go
When we look through it some interesting players for him Hopkins at just one team obviously that will probably be the team to break our heart this weekend but uh then we get Jamar Chas 4 Cooper couple like yourself Eric George Pickins who has got through is Oli like ourselves
But he has Trey McBride who although did not work out last week has been a landslide at tight end recently but it’s a aan team there’s only five aan rosters Rashad white is in there as well Kenneth walkeran 3% or three team 6% rostered the other thing I was going to mention
He has a TM Hill team and I know there was issues with TM Hill and his position allocation earlier at you know at the very deadline of the NFL season he did slot on a quarterback for two weeks for this roster which I thought was interesting as well but Zach has a 4673
Team some crossover between the combination of our rosters but also I think quite a a unique roster all around Sean head us with your your thoughts well I know that Zach was I mean I overstate but Furious about Hill not being a tight end you’re not selling it enough Sean I
Don’t think I mean it it would have worked out in a huge way if he were there but I mean Zach has us all beat because he has the absolute tournament winner in Trey McBride I me we know that Trey McBride is the fantasy MVP the best tight end in the
NFL I mean if Kyler Murray weren’t such a low-end quarterback he would probably be you know scoring 30 points a game I I think that this team wins through McBride and I’m gonna go out on a Ledge and say I mean this is the week that our
Hyper talented or our Ultra Talent ented running backs this is going to be the aan week this is going to be the Kenneth Walker week I mean Kenneth Walker needs to break about 25 tackles in a game to get to his 100 yards and two touchdowns
But he is uniquely capable of he also needs to run he needs to run for 200 yards to accumulate 100 Russian yards it’s interesting because at this point shanet is barely playing and yet he does manage to go in for the only snaps that matter so the path to Walker
Getting a big game is tricky but yeah you look at this and certainly if if Crystal La can go off that would not only help Zach but colum it would help you and I as well yeah selfishly it would certainly help us but the thing I like when we look through our rosters
We’ll go back to ours now but even at the topheavy Players like on our team here we have the Christian mcaffry Bree Hall then Chris alve Cole KT that are all 20 plus perc but then there is enough uniqueness across the rest of the rosters where like they are only
A handful of teams across the board so even having high rostered players is not much as I mentioned at the start of concern at all and there’s enough different ways to differentiate yourself at the end of it so I think that’s going to make for a lot of fun this weekend
Sean I’ll get your thoughts first I’ll get the guys thoughts then we obviously have Sam Hell unlikely to accumulate points this week there was just the two Sam Hell teams which could have been quite a unique process in terms of filling that spot but as you mentioned
As well we have only really had one quarterback throughout the entirety of the season with Field’s been out and now how been out and his underperformance the last couple of weeks but I think the running backs including ta Chandler now starting to get a little bit more Roshan
Johnson has looked okay and his limited opportunities but you know I think there’s a a huge amount of upset here and the one player I was quite surprised in our team you know when I’m thinking about James Cook I was surprised by that obviously but rashy rice only having
Four teams out of 50 at %c really surprised me this week because he has been pretty consistent consistently strong over the last couple of weeks so he is somebody Sean on your Kansas City Chiefs I think could make a a really big difference here for this roster as
Well yeah this was a little bit of a a meltdown week sometimes keeping your composure for a long stretch of time as I would argue that Patrick momes has done up until the last couple weeks then when you finally break you break in such a big way that maybe you should have let
Off some steam you shot her previous to that the Chiefs are not in a great place right now but I do think the Rashi rice is one of the answers for them as I mentioned I I just have a lot of confidence that I mean again if we win
We need something a little bit unexpected and fun to happen you have to have a little bit of that magic to get the title I think Quinton Johnston Marvin Mims or Jaylen hayatt will go off I don’t have the same confidence for John doson or chase Claypool although
You know if there’s a positive yeah I mean if jacobe brassette goes in and maybe he’s like I don’t think that Sam how was going to be in our starting lineup if we win no so losing him doesn’t bother me I mean obviously it cuts down on your PS but it doesn’t
Bother me and maybe it makes doson the player here basically it just doesn’t look like Jan doson can actually play so that’s a bigger problem than who’s throwing him the ball Sean remember be building up his confidence ahead of this weekend’s game not telling him that he can’t play football
Well I mean you got to look at this this team from the perspective of you know what What’s happen we’re going to we’re going to build the exciting scenarios well at the same time thinking through what what the guys have have actually brought to the table
I think that Quinton Johnston too I mean I mentioned the other two players but you break a couple of big plays he’s looked more confident one of the things with Johnston is You could argue that maybe there have been too many intermediate passes where he is a deep
Threat he’s a manufactured touch guy let’s see a game where they manufacture some of those touches like TCU did he could run with the ball in his hands let’s get in the ball in his hands again we’re going to see something unique in this game and one of the things that
Didn’t help us last week but could come into being in a way that really makes a difference I think that Tai Chandler has the potential to go off for a 150 and two kind of game certainly not predicting that but you look at the different scenarios it’s funny to see BBY here we
Had a ton of CN this is really our only Bigsby share I think against across our entire portfolio he was he dropped multiple rounds below where he usually goes Sean draft that doesn’t necessarily matter but was are you excited that our our one Bigby share is is here in the
Final oh very excited uh but this was at the height of the big SP you know propaganda and the preseason this was like where we just couldn’t believe that he didn’t get drafted up higher because that was the point where we continued to stay on the
Etn side of things we continued to draft him continued continued and this is the only team I am sure of that we we drafted him on but Sean who knows who knows and you’re hyping up some of these guys I feel like we’re going to have at
Least 230 points this week so we should be in in with a shot tight end is where I’m most concerned if it was a case of Co Kat did miss out obviously with Greg dolage who is on injured reserve but could there’s still a potential that he
Could be activated um so but if if Kat would miss it’s it’s solely on pets which is a precarious situation he’s gonna go Tom how many points is it gonna take to win this week how how are you seeing the top 10 finish what where do
We need to be pointing how do we need to be rooting as we go through these games well yeah we’ve definitely seen some different weeks over the last few weeks of this tournament I think that looking at the amount of matchups and looking at okay we’ve got 54 point over
Under in the Saturday night game between Dallas and Detroit we’ve got the Miami Baltimore game which is a 47 point over under you’ve got Arizona Philly which is a 48 point over under we haven’t had weeks like this with this many high over unders throughout the season and that’s
San Francisco Washington that’s 48.5 over under so if all of these games hit in the way the The Bookies are expecting them to I think you’re talking 170 180 to really be in with a shot of it yeah I I was going to set when we were thinking
About like the over under in terms of what would be a massive week usually in this format is going to be like if you’re over 190 it’s a massive week even with the super Flex because it’s not adding the super Flex it’s just adding the option for that Flex to be a
Quarterback uh so I think to be in the mix if I think if you’re in the over 180 I think you’re really in the mix mix to win it and I think once you start approaching 19200 uh you have a chance but the unfortunate thing for any other teams is
We are going to have 230 plus so he’s can battle it out for second place set the standard pretty high we scored 191 to win our pod in week 15 we scored 175 I believe to win our pod in week two uh Eric do you remember what your scores
Were the last couple of weeks and how that kind of fit into the rest of the group there yeah I had actually week 15 I had a massive week I was at 221 uh and then last week I was at 180 um I think my team is scored over
160 ever since week 10 so feeling good about that um but yeah I for the year I would need to go back and look um that 220 was probably the high I think because I think on average I me I had a good team I finished first but it wasn’t
Like a you know near the top of the Le leaderboard I think I averaged like 150 points a week so uh definitely came on stronger at the end so I think um yeah I think we’re going to have to cross 200 to win I think probably maybe even above
210 so I think we’ll have to have some pretty Monster scores that would be pretty sounds like we’re lucky we weren’t in with Eric do you remember your two scores uh I’m just scrolling back through some of them now um I had I kind
Of got by I was second place in both my playoff pods and just kind of scraped in a little bit I was quite nervous going to bed over here in the UK like I would have be at a point where I wasn’t sure if the Ravens were going to do enough to
Drag my team in and I ended up at 176 10 points clear of third place but the week before I’d had 171 looking back through the season I had plenty of sort of 170 180s a couple of 190s um I don’t think I uh crept over 200 at any point though
Yeah I had um uh both my teams or two of my superlex teams were in the same pot and uh both of them scored uh 220 so I feel bad for whoever else was in that PO yeah they both went through and the the other one lost this last week but it was
Kind of an odd coincidence I think I only had like four or five teams in the tournament and two were together that but it’s it’s awesome to get two out of the 12 to to go through like that I was looking Sean at hours and this team was
A team that up until the last week it snuck over the line it was kind of going from second to third to Second To Third over that period of time but it was more a case that we consistently scored than we scored High our highest during the
Entire season was 18.6 we had a 178.6 and week 14 was 162.5 which helped get us through but there’s nothing like outlandish in any of the weeks a lot of them are in the 120 to 150 range and that’s probably why we were battling to get through and I had mentioned like the
Two teams that I lik the most that I you know solo teams that I had drafted they were like a bit like it sounds like your team you know crash and you know W 60 plus every single week throughout the way but they bounced once the Sam
Laporta and uh Trey McBride stuff didn’t work out but in terms of our team Sean the one thing I have thought about it throughout has been the consistency and even last week for example when we were looking at how that went the only player that had a big week really last week the
Only player plus Christian mcaffry was the second highest scored to 25 points and the other player then was uh Bree Hall obviously had 40 points but we have a lot of players who have been consistently like 15 to 25 points so I I kind of feel like if any of those
Have a big week this week that that’s really where it’s going to push us over because I’m pretty confident that the rest of the guys are going to put up numbers that will be able to fill all the spots across the board we just need a couple of there’s a question how many
30o games do you think you need in this because we’re going we might have a player you know gets that 40 point game like a Christian mcaffrey and then you know it doesn’t take a lot else to fill in that 180 points that we’re talking about from the rest of the
Players I’m looking for 30 plus from CMC Hall and cook all together that’s that’s our path with the three stars th this has been such a fun exercise I’m so excited to have been able to have you all on I I I feel the good vibes from this or at least my you
Know pleasure and enjoyment of being able to to share it with you and and hear what you guys are thinking you know makes me more confident not necessarily about our team but just from this group having somebody do well which would just be so exciting Tom share with the
Listeners anything else that you would like on any topic what other things are you looking for in week 17 across the different things you’re involved in in give us some good vibes as we head into to New Year’s yeah I mean most my best ball teams are all dead as is often
Way but you know this is the one which yeah I think you know a lot of people can heavily relate to that but for me it’s just really the the beste ball communities become such a great place to be and yes there are weeks where it can feel a bit miserable where
Like week 15 where everybody loses a huge %c of teams they felt really good about and that but going into week 17 we are days away from millions of dollars being doled out in prize money and honestly if it’s not somebody on this stream it’s hopefully somebody who I
Interact with or whether it’s somebody who’s part of the Discord that we run on the fantasy Sanctuary I know a lot of got four or five members in there with hopes of big money this weekend and uh to everybody who’s got those kind of sweats whereever it’s for a dynasty
League whether it’s the home League you know they all matter because fantasy matters and I’m just excited to see how it plays out and then get into the offseason I mean I just love the offseason and getting into all the data yeah so the offseason’s not far away but
We will enjoy one more week of like the Pinnacle of the fantasy football season Tom mentioned him passing there the fantasy Century check out their YouTube channel and all the great stuff that they’re doing over there and you can follow Tom as well on Twitter at NFL T
Stck in terms of you know the game on this side of the Atlantic I know we obviously a lot of the players are over there in the US but the game has expanded massively in the UK and Ireland but I would say more so in the UK
Population and Tom’s doing a great job with like he heavily um sharing information around the baseball side of things so shout out to Tom for that Eric what’s going on for week 17 and what are we excited about here yeah I’m I’m incredibly excited and uh really disg
Grateful to have have a team uh in the mix um it’s you know what you play for it’s just to be here and to have a chance and uh you know probably the most exciting uh time of the year from a fantasy perspective so super uh excited
For that um and uh yeah really just grateful for uh just fantasy in general just gives me a great uh you know fun Outlet uh in life and uh I I think the you know reason I’m so into it is because of the communities uh around
Rivz and ship chasing uh it’s awesome to have you know great people that you can uh you know draft with and cut it up with and uh you know strategize with so um yeah just grateful to be here and have a chance and uh hoping that one of
Us will take it down yeah and I just remembered as we’re getting ready to sign off here this show you know coming up to the end of December our next show Sean I believe will be in 2024 obviously we’re right at the end of December we’re heading into January but obviously we
May have to do an emergency podcast Sean if this team comes in first place but we’ll see of course the best way to get the shows once they’re available is good to your podcast feed subscribe to RZ overtime you’ll get them all once they are available but good luck to everyone
Playing this weekend whether it’s in your redraft league your Dynasty League no matter what format it is in whether you’re in bbm4 let’s bring home some of that big cash money but until we are back my name is colum Kelly you can follow me on Twitter at overt Ireland
Check out Sean’s work up on ris.com and until next time have a good one
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:00 NFL Week 17, the Fantasy Football Finals and Contest Overview
4:00 The teams
7:00 High rostered players
16:00 Low-rostered players
23:00 Low-rostered WRs
27:00 Tom's Elite QB team
33:00 Erik's Late QB Team
38:00 Zachs Team
41:00 OT Team
51:00 Outro
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