Clash Of The Podcasts Episode 69 Best of 2023 | Happy Holidays

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Happy Holidays!!!

Everything Pro Wrestling and Hubbard Wrestling are joining forces to bring the wrestling community Clash Of The Podcasts. We will get some discussion points and talk pro wrestling with you all. In Episode 69 we will discuss the following:

– Best Of 2023 Pro Wrestling Year-End Review
– AEW Main Event Scene going into Worlds End and 2024?
– Swerve Strickland

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Once again you already know what it is and you already know where you have reached the number one collaborative professional wrestling podcast anywhere on the planet man and it’s really really a festive situation as my brother from another mother turns has had around to get more swagged out for this very

Special day it is christmasday right here on Clash of the podcast my name is Sean hubber representing hubber wrestling weekly to my immediate left is a one and only Conrad kushman representing everything pro wrestling and together we are the one and only clash of the podcast we

Want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas Happy K Quanza happy Hanukkah and whatever and however you may be celebrating with your families uh we wish you a very happy holidays we come to you from upstate New York and Miami I am down in Miami made it safely been

With my family all morning going back but we made sure that we brought to you guys the six 69th consecutive episode without delay or without cancellation we’re really proud to say that so once again welcome to clash to the podcast we’re going to have a good show tonight right here on

Christmas day thank you for everybody that’s here Conrad you already know what it is Merry Christmas my brother and do me a big favor just for the holidays do me a favor and drop that Big Happy holidays Merry Christmas Happy K Quanza happy Hanukkah whatever you celebrate clash of the podcast has your back we are here once again for episode 69 and we are going to be talking some pro wrestling for you guys uh the wrestling world is crazy so to me

If you guys watch the old like WWF pay-per-views remember the free-for-all Sean like that’s I feel episode is going to be it’s there’s no rules really we wanted to continue the streak uh Sean has come in we have planned things that are going to be happening for you guys

We got some big upcoming pay-per-views if you’re a fan of battle in the valley we got wrestle Kingdom we got aw World’s End uh all of these great things and more they are going to be available on the new triller TV especially if you are across the pond for our good listeners

Over there make sure you guys are doing um show them some love we’re gonna have some previews and things like that coming up TNA hard to kill I didn’t even mention everything there’s so much wrestling happening right now and it’s like weird because raw’s off tonight we

Really really don’t have to like find time to watch it I’m not like yo Sean you got to check this segment out you can’t miss it or or something like that so um I want to take a second to say that I’m grateful for everyone who listens to us make sure you guys

Subscribe to Sean hubber Hubbert wrestling weekly brother works hard covers boxing pro wrestling Combat Sports you name it he covers it so make sure you guys are checking him out his writings podcasts videos he goes live randomly you never know of a sit situation occurs Sean’s going live so

Make sure you guys pop in on love um I appreciate you guys like the video easiest way to do this listen I haven’t talked about this in a minute yo I’m real close to 2K and I’m tired of waiting for these 2K subscribers I need a couple hundred more so it’s the

Christmas season spread the word for me tell someone heyo get in here subscribe to everything pro wrestling subscribe to Hubbert wrestling weekly let’s get our numbers up let’s make more money and talk about more more bucks I know it’s Christmas and that ain’t the time for

It’s about giv but you know what I need it so I’m put I’m starting it early we’re starting the campaign um and and next week if you guys want a small little preview me and Sean are G to be going over our predictions from last year and making a bunch of new

Predictions for 2024 for the New Year’s show no days off no days off as Joel called us in the chat let’s uh let’s get into it here e is the first one in the house he said nice yes sir welcome welcome Joel in the house saying yo sir quills was never far behind

What’s up Conrad Sean Chad happy holidays to everyone your boy sir quills is back with my two favorite Bros CJ and hubs to enjoy the episode 69 the Christmas edition of clash of the podcast yes sir yes sir yeah yeah I was just watching the football game before I came up I was

Watching Raiders Chiefs I also watched the Knicks get a dubb today look at that little New York it must be Christmas yo Randle was balling too though I Gotta Give it up he was uh I’m wearing the Miami Hat show a little love for uh Sean who is out there and it just

Matched I promise you like I I have teams that just match but I was like I’ll wear that I could have wore a Houston one too but I was like no we wearing the Miami because that’s where Sean is appreciate it man appreciate it you know this Chey in the building Merry

Christmas everyone and the same to you em we appreciate you my G always bro always the first to comment says I’ll be there he’s always there so uh thank you thank you for that and and shout out to quills Joel and E too they’re all all of

You guys who are always in here you know who you are thank youbody xgw everybody appreciate y’all thank you and here it is Shan and Conrad’s new gimmick no days off I think Mr uh Darren Young Fred Rosser will have an issue with that but we I’ll accept the

Compliment absolutely we’re happy to be here man we’ve been planning this for the longest man this family outing that I’m having and you know the family over Conrad’s house we weren’t going to stop man we 69 episodes in a row next week will’ll be number 70 God willing and on

And on and on and on we’re going for a 100 without a break that’s the goal for sure uh for sure um always hustling appreciate it mckenny in the house yo yo yo merry Christmas clash of the podcast live chat I’m here to talk wrestleing and let y’all know it’s Christmas time

In Hollis Queens mom’s cooking chicken and collard greens ah Run DMC Christmas and holl is one of my favorite songs I post it every year on Christmas Eve it’s like a tradition OG’s Run DMC Legends Money Mike in the house what is good I know you came from the pro wrestling shoot

Mike and for that I appreciate you Merry Christmas Conrad and Sean Rock NY in the building oh I’m from I’m from the rough buff so I respect it buffalo buffalo everyone laughs when I say ruff buff but yeah Buffalo man much respect so you’re like a a neighboring City to me uh

Anthony slate what’s good welcome Anthony look at bej hey what’s up y’all sorry late I’m not able to stay for the whole show as it is live but I’ll be adding comments in on it later Merry Christmas hope you all had a great day same to you man same

To you my guy pro wrestling shoot said Merry Christmas everyone merry Christmas Jesse Jesse appreciate you my G Jesse’s gonna be on Hover wrestling weekly the Thursday before uh the Royal Rumble with Conrad very special Royal Rumble retro and preview show Jessie from PWS Conrad from epw and clash of the podcast and

The co-host of clash of the podcast and proprietor of Hub wrestling weekly me the Thursday before the Royal Rumble we’re going to be talking a lot about the Royal Rumble and um Robin Sean with the big Gucci Flex he said what up Rob Rob’s downstairs helping the brother out

Thank you brother watching The Intern working with him uh boy looking like Smooth chocolate picks our character making my Christmas man I appreciate you my G shout out to everyone whose team caught a w and made the playoff Detroit Lions baby good for them I’m tell something right now I’m G

Tell you something right now if I had not have already picked the Buffalo Bills in the preseason to win the Super Bowl I would be jumping on the Detroit Lions bandwagon I’m telling you that right now they are very impressive I like the coach man the coach has made the changes that they’ve

Needed for a long time yes sir look at Matt Lopez happy and honored to be here here let’s go Prince rockar Let’s Go Rockstar you must be from Michigan too look at that it’s a loot Detroit Lions NFC North Champs yes sir I respect it man guys

Listen we’re here to talk some wrestling um Sean I wantan to I want to show some things that I got thus far today let’s do it I feel like they’re related to the show just to kick it off I know you’ll be happy about this one if if you smell uh

That’s nice Dwayne John a Dwayne Johnson action figure that’s nice yeah you know he’s got a little miction it’s an action fig figure of the guy who plays The Scorpion King that’s really cool I like that very nice wow wow wow why I’m not look let me tell you

Something let me tell you something I’m a religious dude okay but I’m going to keep it very very simple us Christians believe it’s Jesus’s birthday right so on Jesus’s birthday I’m not going to lie big shout out to the guy who played The Scorpion King and the truth fairy and

The mommy returns he’s a tremendous actor big shout out to Dwayne Johnson what I don’t understand what’s going on the Rock we got we got little Scott Hall NWO came with a little tag belt and everything with him I thought that was dope all right I don’t understand I don’t understand why you

Call Scott Hall Scott Hall God Rest his soul but yet when I call Dwayne Johnson Dwayne Johnson I get get slack for it I don’t understand this see if he had the little poofy hair in the blue tights he’d be Rocky mayaa but he’s the rock I

Don’t know who that is his name all I know is this he’s a tremendous actor I get listen let me tell you something right here from my right here from his hometown Miami Florida big shout out to Dwayne Johnson okay I understand he’s been a very successful thank you took

The word right about a very successful college football player played some time in the Canadian Football League he’s been a tremend this actor for many years I understand he had another job at some point you know what’s really cool Dwayne Johnson I’ve never seen a Dwayne Johnson actually appeared on Smackdown about a

Month ago it was really cool I didn’t know people from this you know it’s similar to the way like you know Bob Barker got rest his soul and some other Shaquille O’Neal have come over to the wrestling world to to be guest host on SmackDown and Raw really cool to see the

Tooth fairy in the scorp WWE I heard Australia made a bid for it’s a tremendous thing it’s a tremendous thing when people outside the wrestling world make an appearance on wrestling television hey Mike we don’t cheer for the Dolphins over here knock it off

Knock it off we we need them to lose to the Ravens real bad because we coming for that top spot the Tooth Fairy here we go I just don’t understand I don’t know why Conrad I don’t know why my co-host my brother were friends I don’t know why my brother

Continues to IGN me when I say shout out to Dwayne Johnson I don’t understand what the issue is fact right it’s just it seems mean I even got one for Bray Wyatt rip man this one kind of hit me in the fields when I saw it pop up so rest

In peace Rob got one too and um listen I know I’m talking from away it wouldn’t be a fair podcast if we didn’t get an aw action figure uh someone came through with a little Pretty Ricky Little Ricky Starks little uh Little Ricky St say this before we

Get into the content because I really think it’s awesome that you showed the action figures that’s super dope but I just want to add one quick thing and I mean this from the bottom of my heart um I think that if Dwayne Johnson ever got into wrestling he’d probably be a big

Success he would be and speaking of big successes freshly new and arrived nice shirt for for CM Punk not that I’m a fan or biased when we talk about this at all you know he wrestles he wrestles yeah yeah the Royal Rumble he’s gonna be

There my boy my boy Jay Uso off the raw poster don’t get me started he did not do anything see this is I need people to start taking this up with their manager Paul direct your hate towards Paul who’s in charge of that help Paul that he can fix

It I want to go on record because nobody’s going to say I’m being unfair it is not CM Punk’s fault that CM Punk took Jay Uso’s place on the raw banner I would never blame Phil Brooks for that CM Punk deserves to be on the raw Banner but so does Jay

Uso why they did that I could not tell you um let me see mcken I don’t know if they have the different finisher names on there there maybe it’s on the box I didn’t look at it um I usually keep those in the box now all the action

Figures I usually don’t mess with them the rock we talking about the rock do Morocco come on you know what I want to thank em Ley for that because let me tell you something Conrad and I don’t know why you’re laughing that’s a really good question by uh by em Ley you know

There was a wrestler by the name of rock Don Morocco he wrestled for many years he he uh was a a superstar that fought against um fought against uh Don uh excuse me um Dino Bravo at a WrestleMania in the championship tournament really really strong wrestler

But yeah oh so you were talking about The Rock was that the rock D Morocco action figure you showed me that’s awesome no that was the rock the okay well I’m confused well oh they call D Morocco the people’s champ that’s cool they they never did okay well I’m confused let’s let’s just

Move on mckin said quick question have you seen the Bo Dallas videos on YouTube and do you think WWE is or would use the idea uh do you think the aop will save a drowning caran cross uh I have not seen these Bo Dallas videos do you know what

He’s referring to I have not seen the Bo Dallas videos either but I’m really excited about aop so you think that works with cross looks like they may even have Paul ellering back with them yeah I think it better work for cross cross is about his days are numbered in WWE

Yeah that cross has gotten a lot of start stop start stop but you can’t have this guy getting beat like this either like it’s very weird how they’re pushing him uh Jason joins us my mom got me Cobra Guai pajama pants for Christmas did Kyra tell her to get me these Cobra

Kai Never Dies bro she knows she knows Jason um yeah I’m sorry Charlotte got injured I saw Charlotte’s going to be out for nine months and yeah she got a bag supposedly good for her her good for her the people’s champ someone got a DDP

Figure you know what and let me tell you something BJ always calls me out on my crap and I always call BJ out on his crap and we have grown BJ correct me if I’m wrong we have grown to respect each other and I love that comment yes the

People SH now I understand it’s a DDP action figure I get it now why didn’t you say that from the start Conrad I’m moving forward with Merry Christmas Merry Christmas what a wonderful shout out to theck the only true Rock in wrestling Don Morocco the people’s champ Diamond Dallas Page and

The actor Dwayne Johnson this is tremendous Merry Christmas BJ is letting us know the Bo Dallas videos are fake and made by an impersonator and it made me mad that stuff gains traction did not see it uh e back saying yo uh J says happy Christmas to all Merry Christmas

Jocelyn JN Merry Christmas to you absolute respect Sean uh Prince Rockstar says Mercedes got unfinished business in Japan we’re g to get into a little Mercedes here uh my daughter’s in the figures and I got her a Jay Cargill and Tamina gen one nice I love it mckenny I love it awesome Matt

Lopez says all hell president tanahashi New Japan making a crazy move the last couple days I’m with it I think tanahashi announces at wrestle Kingdom here’s a bold prediction for you already for uh next week tanahashi’s going to announce his retirement I’ll give you one right now

And he is going to stay in that President role you know what that would not surprise me I think that’s a solid prediction douge fresh in the house uh Merry Christmas Conrad Sean and chat me how to dou hey teach me how to dou teach

Me teach me how to hey hey hey hey welcome Doug welcome um let’s get into this we someone brought up Mercedes so I guess that’s the first name here we’re going to talk about uh Mercedes Monae uh we were going to talk about places where people need to sign the

Main event scene in WWE this one’s mainly about aew but Mercedes Monae is a free agent kind of hanging around on the market people thought she was going to be going to aew after Allin Sean what what’s going to happen here brother like what what if you’re a Mercedes

Supposedly she’s asking for a lot of money I’ve heard some people say she deserves the money and I’ve heard other people say she does not deserve Charlotte money where do you stand on this and where should she sign what works best for Mercedes Monae to get the bag she

Wants I think Mercedes Monae is a mega star which is a good thing but I think she knows it which is a bad thing and the reason why it’s a bad thing is because she knows it and she wants somebody to pay for it and the news about Charlotte’s deal has

Obviously circulated and she feels that she wants top dollar no I’m not talking about hit R so at the end of the day all I could say is when it comes to WWE aew New Japan or anybody else I think she’s worth it I think aew

Is probably the best fit but man she is really she’s really drawn A Line in the Sand and I don’t know if that’s the best idea uh become a little bit of a diva in this situation again I think Monae Mercedes Monae is a top three or four

Competitor in the entire world as it relates to female wrestling but and I think she deserves as much as Charlotte Flair let me go on record to saying that as well but it’s it’s a tough thing when you draw a line in a sand like that because if somebody doesn’t cross that

Line then you’re kind of like caught between a rock and a hard place I respect that I respect that um I don’t know what to do here with Mercedes um quills is popping in Mercedes better not go back to the WWE even though that may be the destination I mean it’s hard

To trust aw especially in the women’s division though like is she going there to turn it around is there some big plan in place to turn it around or are we gonna just do what we’ve been doing this whole time Mercedes turned business around for stardom Mercedes turned business around

For WWE I think I think they made it pretty cool to be a part of the Women’s Division I know people want to paint the picture that it was just Becky and Charlotte and trust me me and Shauna brought it up I’m one of the people who

Has the biggest issue with that because you called on Sasha Banks Mercedes whatever you want to call her Time After Time After Time to help make Charlotte help make Becky help make Bailey help make Ronda when was it going to be her turn she was in that same role

The CM Punk Macho Man You’re Number Two we we don’t respect you but we’re going to tell you you’re great but then we’re going to smack you when you really think you deserve something AB G show you that you don’t deserve it and she’s tired of

It she knows what she’s worth she knows what she deserves um at this point I don’t know aw’s in a bad place Sean we I don’t even know we got really deep into the whole Paramount and what’s going on with that deal Paramount might merge with uh Brothers Discovery there’s a lot

Of mergers happening and I don’t want to get into like how I feel business-wise about them because I don’t know some people are going to hate it and some people are going to agree with me but is is aew a safe bet for her right

Now I think it’s a safe bet but I think like I said she’s drawn A Line in the Sand so now it’s a matter of whether or not the powers to be um KH or whoever else makes a decision to um just go for what Monae wants and then figure out

Where we go from here here but again like I said I think the best thing about Sasha bags Mercedes mon is is also the worst thing about her which is the fact that she’s an absolutely amazing Superstar top-of-the-line talent that knows it and now like I said I think the

Biggest key here and we can’t gloss over it is the fact that Charlotte’s deal has become common knowledge so now there’s a benchmark okay and when there’s a benchmark you have a problem because now there’s a line that she refuses to allow anyone to go beneath that so um will

Somebody circum to it probably aew more so than WWE would but at the end of the day I think mer Mercedes Monae will find a home but unfortunately for wrestling fans all over the world I think it’s going to take a little bit more time not bad I mean the Royal Rumble is

Coming up and I see a lot of people speculating e saying that she deserves more I know Quill’s mentioned don’t go back to WWE but it’s a different regime too it’s not Johnny Ace is gone uh John laurenitis uh we used his government name Vince McMahon is not in a powerful

Or creative type well I shouldn’t say powerful he’s a power in a powerful position but he’s not in a creative position to do harm to her character if that was an issue um so is it different but then again things could change you thought he was gone before and ha I’m

Back you know what I mean all it takes is for something to go sideways who knows um Matt Lopez great points Sasha put Bianca on the map I love that match that they put on at WrestleMania that M right great Point by em Ley and also I

Want to say Sasha Banks also helped make Charlotte Flair too helped make she put Bianca on the map Charlotte was already on the map but Charlotte polished herself off the matches she had with Sasha Banks no question yeah 100% uh n it’s a different story if

It’s Monae wbd will not want um more women on TV that’s the aw issue for everyone who is a women’s wrestling fan and I know there’s a lot of people i’ I’ve changed my view on it even over the last like 20 years when you look at women’s wrestling

If that’s not drawing what what are you telling Tony Khan to put on your television just think about that if that those are always the lowest segments what is Tony Khan thinking when he sees that um this ain’t it this ain’t it so why would he invest into Mercedes unless she’s

Going to change the whole division she would have to be front and center in everything on everything and she has to bring in the ratings T that’s gota be Joselyn says her going back to sports entertainment is not going to be make her the top female if she goes for the

Money I’ll just be indifferent um still got to eat still gota eat she’s only got for so many years in this business I think what we have to remember about a Mercedes mon returned to WWE specifically is and I think this is what Joselyn is saying I think we have to

Think about the fact that whether it’s the Royal Rumble or whenever it’s going to be a huge pop right it’s gonna be an amazing return whenever she comes back if she comes back to WWE but it’s not about the initial pop it’s about what happens afterwards because like I’ve

Said to you Conrad before this is sound familiar to you everybody gets a pop when they return except if your name is Emma or Dana Brooke everybody everybody gets a pop the Jonathan coach Jonathan Coachman a few years ago got a huge pop on Monday Night Raw everybody gets

Excited for people they haven’t seen in a while it’s not about that it’s not about that it’s human nature to get excited when you see somebody haven’t seen in a while I’m excited to see my family that I haven’t seen in a while everybody gets excited about about

Seeing F somebody they haven’t seen it’s about what happens afterwards and my question is Mercedes Monae if you go back to WWE what happens then what happens after the thrill of you going back to W that’s why I think aew is the best option because she’ll immediately be in a

Championship picture she’ll immediately be a main eventer and there’ll be no question that she’ll have the staying power to be a main eventer for many many more years to come but WWE before you know in six months she could be be back on velocity wrestling uh wrestling uh

Whoever you know I’m trying to say we don’t want that for her mckenny say she wants more than what Charlotte got she’s tripping but she could get close to it just think uh you got a lot of young women coming up and gotta have money to keep them around but

That’s not her problem not her problem yeah she does not care and I think now with Charlotte out that’s just money being s going away I don’t I don’t know if she gets paid during that time I don’t know how the contracts are set up

In WWE for injury I’m sure she has the downside guarantee she has to get but she might be losing out on extra things like merch sales things like that at the shows but now you have a void at WrestleMania that it’s either not going to be filled or you have someone on the

Roster that’s going to fill it they talk about if she’s not ready well you might need to make that call to Mercedes and say it’s it’s boss time how much well don’t be the don’t be the foolish one that comes back and gets paid a boatload of money just just to

Win the title uh just to hold it for Charlotte when she comes back and wins it in 10 seconds when she comes back from her Hiatus right Ronda Rousey uh Prince Rockstar Becky still gotta get paid too yep that’s true that’s true easy said Paramount can the girl who played

The Golden Child take a bum wrestling back on MTV a you never know Deanna said Mary grinchmas what’s going on Deanna Grinch Prince Rockstar Vince is the Grinch Johnny skateboard Bailey Mercedes are always behind Charlotte and Becky and I disagree with that I mean it’s personal preference though I know some people who

Love Charlotte and they’ll say Charlotte’s the best but I I’m Mercedes is my favorite out of the four you ask Mercedes Sasha B always been number one in my book uh people know they haven’t seen in a while uh wrestling back on MTV y’all y’all laughing Sean might have started

Heat might be back baby it might be back uh having Mercedes is best for business velocity Shannon Moore like Shannon Moore Shannon Moore good dude good dude um Main Event scene Sean we’re going to talk about this with with aew there’s been kind of a this has been turning

Into what’s a what’s a nice way to say this this is the place where older wrestlers get to go to do what they want go out on their terms if there’s no spot for them in WWE or New Japan sounds about looking up at the top

You have a young mjf but then you have a a wrestling veteran Samoa Joe I’ve enjoyed Joe’s work though Christian Cage and Adam copelan is another big matchup here for the TNT Championship uh down at the bottom we do see some fresh faces in Julia Hart and

Abdon and we see some veteran women’s wrestlers in Tony storm and reho um looking at all of this what is your outlook on the main event scene more specifically I guess for someone like mjf he’s here now uh there were some speculations about his contract status I

Don’t know what you feel of those I’d be interested to hear your take my take is that he’s already signed and I don’t believe anything he’s saying Tony cow g a fool to give him more money and not make him resign there is no way on God’s green

Earth that mjf has not put his pen to paper as of yet for aew it is a done deal he will be back he is not going anywhere Tony KH would be an idiot to let him go that being said wow he has really lost a lot of stock in my

Book because of thef yeah mjf has become John Cena uh Deep dive deep dive well when you look at his character and you look at the things he’s accomplished in the past year he’s obviously straight away from the the the heel character which is obviously his best work right all of a

Sudden now he’s being nice to announcers he’s given Renee pette respect he’s giving Tony Tony chani high fives he’s telling everybody how great they are and he’s he’s a fan favorite and all this stuff that’s not mjf that’s not mjf it’s a force-fed situation who was the last

One who was for force-fed to us that’s not named Roman Reigns John Cena at the end of the day when you sit up here and you have a man who is as talented as mjf and you force feed him to us it becomes stale now everyone is clamoring correct

Me if I’m wrong comrad clamoring for a title change I think more so than not people would be very disappointed if Joe does not win this match and that’s a problem because what we should be doing is putting mjf in a position where people are upset if he loses but that’s

Not going to be the case I promise you if and when Samoa Joe wins the title at World’s End the fans will cheer and it will be a feeling of satisfaction because mjf has been force-fed to us like a baby being force-fed sted Peas I I I do not like the baby face

Roll I prefer mjf as a heel it’s uh it feels Ric Flair esque Miz kind of when their baby faces it’s like this just doesn’t feel right you know what I mean um it’s like when they ever tried to make sting a heel or Ray my it’s like it

Doesn’t work man it just it’s not it’s not it even if they’re walking that line like I need them as the clear-cut baby face that’s just what they do uh and I think mjf’s just a clear he’s a he at heart he’s just a heel he’s someone that

You want to he’s annoying you want to punch him in his face when he talks that mess that is who he is um there’s a lot of fear going on with the main event scene um and Sean if you’re in Tony Count’s position do you rely on some of

These I’m gonna use a a Young Person’s term because they may call me this an old head do you rely on these older guys who’ve been around for a long time the edge the Christians the Joe’s right now or should they be leaning into the younger folks on their roster I want to

Say I want to say that I think it’s it’s it’s not factually accurate to list Joe in the same elk as Edge um Edge is an older wrestler okay now for all intents and purposes so is Samoa Joe but there’s just a different level in my opinion

Edge is clearly pass Prime I think in many ways Samoa Joe is still in his prime you have to understand that Joe’s run in NXT was very limited and Joe’s run though Long in NXT a couple of years it also was the void of a lot of high

Quality matches he was the NXT champion he was the face of the the brand but he was never a guy that was running the road being world champion the way he would be if he won this title on December 30th so you’re putting him in a position where he could probably be in

Line for the best run of his career at the age he’s at now nobody would ever say that Adam Copeland is going to embark on the best run of his career at this stage there’s only one person in the business at an advanced age that is wrestling at the top of their capability

It really doesn’t have much to do with wrestling it’s about how wonderful he’s been on promos and that’s Christian Cage so when you think about that you want to definitely take Samoa Joe out of that you know Edge um category because Edge is clearly respectfully Hall of Fame

Status over the hill while Joe is not that being said I don’t have a problem putting the the the the horse making Joe your horse and having him lead you into the new year I just think that you have to be very careful with mjf because mjf

Could retain the title and it could work the problem is I think like I said he’s been force-fed to us and he’s starting to become the guy that fights four on one handicap matches and still wins he’s starting become that guy that jumps over the top rope and does amazing moves over

The top rope and I’m not knocking any of that but that’s not what made mjf famous mjf was became famous because mjf is an a-hole and this whole I’m your a-hole I’m your scumbag thing it doesn’t work for me he needs to get back to his roots

And if he doesn’t the fans are going to continue turning on him which is already starting I’ve heard a couple of Boo the last couple of weeks when he’s come out to do some promos and you know what like I said I think Samoa Joe will be the F

The fan favorite on dece 30th interesting take interesting take on that um I appreciate the comments I just had popping up uh I know I saw Jocelyn put that this is mjf’s early Legacy Cody rhods even made the prediction that he thinks we’ll see mjf over with him in WWE little

Uh with with what’s going on started on Christmas do not get me started on that dude on Christmas I’m G to I’m going to fold this in uh mjf recently this week on Dynamite told swerve I’ll break both of your arms so you can always swerve while you drive

Now this is leading into me talking about swerve who I think ascended into the main event scene in the last couple weeks maybe months um you do tryouts and I sign contracts so swerve must have been one of the people who got signed while mjf had the story with Regal about yeah not

Today son not today sunshine so he got put on I loved the interaction between them this made swerve feel like a main aventer I loved it I thought it was important um big shout out to the homie montey who uh co-hosts the podcast Swerve City Podcast with swerve does my

Theme song as well on Wednesdays swerve is ascendant my brother um I think it’s time time and I know well I’ll save my thoughts on it give me your thoughts on swerve Strickland in the main event simply put swerve Strickland is the most entertaining professional wrestler on aew television in December

2023 bar I look forward to every time swer strickling steps into the ring I look forward to every time swerve Strickland I look forward to every time swerve getss on a microphone he with his tremendous wrestling Talent his tremendous mic skills and the Swagger that comes with Prince Nana

They are on top of the world right now and I think it would be a travesty of Justice a travesty of Justice if he does not Ascend to a world championship and notice I did not say TNT Championship I did not say International Champion ship swerve Strickland should be the aew world

Champion John look at what they did this week Keith Lee remembered that they had a feud finally we all we were all clamoring for it for weeks I’m like there’s no way they don’t see this and now they’re finally getting back to it and he’s Keith Lee seems like he’s

Running the gauntlet with Mogul Embassy by the way an accident that wasn’t supposed to happen merge two groups together because there were some issues happening with swerves group had some injuries swear if you’re with these guys now you’re the leader okay wow put him with Nana and things changed

Greatly it’s a beautiful thing it’s a beautiful thing I wish pull trigger on that too conre I think it’s about the time you pull that Tri it’s it’s about time for mobile Embassy to turn on him okay and let’s and that’s a face turn that I would love

To see it’s time for mobile Embassy to turn on swerve stricking and for Prince Nana and swerve to continue on on as tremendous fan favorites and Ascend to the world championship I think swerve is on the cusp of being the biggest baby face in aew the dance is over with the people

That should be a babyf face thing Nana should also get turned on with swerve because why would he stay with all of those Folks at this point why what’s Brian Cage doing for him what’s the Agony doing for him go for it go for it but I think

You’re waiting for the right moment to do it um I want to see I want to see mobile Embassy surround him in the ring and beat the crap out of him I want mobile Embassy to beat the dog crap out of swerve Strickland and turn him baby

Face and Skyrocket him to the world championship even means costing the match with Lee sve doesn’t have to win everything I’m going to get into that in one second swerve Deana says has been on a career- changing run that I will agree Cody was an aew EVP is that tampering no

Technically not because now he’s just Talent uh shout out to Swerve doing a video in the Jaguar Stadium I’m sure Tony Khan loved it and set it up good for them mjf versus swerve is a money Feud waiting to happen mjf retaining the title would make sense for this to go

Down otherwise it doesn’t make sense and I agree with quills they did a lot of foreshadowing here but doesn’t that spoil the devil stuff too it’s weird because you would think the devil stuff would lead to mjf losing the title but we’re getting back to him

And swerve so not sure is it going to be Keith Lee and swerve in the C2 Keith Lee is not in good sir so that is not happening Matt riddle still in a feud with the bloodline outside of WWE I did see him make his return to uh

Mlw um getting back into this these are your main events here for the finals for the blue league and gold league swerve is in this this was the right thing to do swerve Moxley and Jay White all lost to each other is the best way it goes

And looking at this that that is for a Triple Crown Championship with the RO title New Japan strong swerve does not need to lose this match but swerve also does not need this Champion he does not to be in this finals that’s why that’s why you’re the best of the business Conrad

100% oh so what what is the matchup for the pay-per-view here then so we’re X and out swerve if me and you say that what is the big match up then I think you give Eddie Kingston a chance to defend the Triple Crown I mean he’s

Obviously the current CH has one of the titles I think you have him be in a situation where he can go all the way to the end uh where his vision of being able to defend the title in this tournament comes to fruition and I think

You have him run it back with with John Moxley and have Moxley win so you’re saying Moxley becomes the first champ but Kingston ever so close always the brides made never the bride well not no not never the bride not never the bride because he’s Champion

Now what I’m saying is that I think that him winning this tournament is a little unrealistic as much as I like him um but I love I love him being the guy that uh decided he wanted to defend the championship in this tournament format I

Love him going to the finals and I love him losing a heartbreaker to John Moxley I love it I love it um e says will swerve as the face will he lose the magic does he have to stop breaking and entering opponent’s houses quill says swerve should hands down be the first

Black uh world champion in aw history he is too over of an act not to be 100 uh Mike showing love to La Knight yeah yeah uh yeah his stock had dropped kind of uh lately I know they’re trying to pick him back up but this is this is

What we said was gonna happen WWE ran Jay Uso La Knight the list goes on there boy it’s a lot man it’s a lot de says they aren’t benefiting swerve right now let him be a baby face or even that own Cole kind of run but Sean brought up a

Good point though you could have Mogul Embassy turn on him and Nana keep them together because they’ll just say well we’re well you’re not taking care of us anyway so we don’t need you get out of here and Keith Lee could then join them Keith Lee could then be like you’re my guys

Now I because I think Keith Lee needs something different Keith Lee coming out in the Santa hat ain’t it Chief I love Keith Lee well Conrad you may be up you may be on to something with that idea I like that I like that a lot Keith needs something different I

Agree just putting it out there I don’t think Keith Lee and Shane Taylor are gonna be in a tag team anymore but why couldn’t Keith Lee be a heel and you know what you just did you just took Deanna’s point that was a great point

That she just made and you just made it even better you know what you just proposed right by accident you know what you just proposed you proposed WrestleMania 13 little double turn uh mcken says fire that promo was dope and it put him right in the visual

Forefront of the aw title picture he deserves it he’s worthy of it and if you put the title on him aw might find themselves better off I think that’s the route they need to go right now mjf’s not dead in the water either I know you

Have to keep him in uh a bigger uh picture but yeah that I think that’s just the way you go mlw yeah we’ll take you fed of the modern era Craig said I’m late but Merry Christmas everyone welcome Craig appreciate my brother swerve shouldn’t take the pen everyone saying Kingston Moxley it looks

Like agreeing with you Sean best Return of the year is me calling that CM Punk makes his return at home thank you Phil Brooks Kingston versus MOX even if I love for it to be Brian in the finals winning the titles have a run with the belts uh and listen you could easily

Have Kingston win too and he could be the underdog who came back and yay that that’s what we do if you don’t want Moxley in that spot uh Moxley Kingston should happen just for New Japan purposes uh truth be told I hope Kingston wins the Triple Crown but I

Wouldn’t be surprised if it was MOX it could be it could be Jay White too you never know how they want to treat him um now for 2024 I like to see The Return of the legendary AJ Lee she could pop up in the rumble we we’ll we’ll talk more

About that in the future on Hubbert wrestling weekly January 25th which is a Thursday with the pro wrestling shoot make sure you guys are tuned in um Eddie Moxley is my pick you know WWE doesn’t know how to strike when the iron is hot because that’s a good idea

We all know what that means know what that means quilly appreciate you it’s 69 episodes and that phrase still go strong in this chat yes sir i’ have to question continuing to watch aw if swerve doesn’t become chant with this great run I think it’s going to still take some time too

Though I don’t think it’s going to happen right away but they got some time to build this up I would hope we see something before all in is my guess I’m hoping fingers crossed uh Mary Yeet Miss Eric says and to all a good uh look at that love Eddie Kingston

Brett har should have retired Goldberg Eddie doesn’t need to win uh I think he should be aw world champion soon facts facts facts facts facts facts nothing wrong with that uh we’re going to be talking about these finals coming up on Wednesday clash of the uh clash of the

Podcast is now Wednesday nights me and Dereck do aw Dynamite reviews make sure you guys come on in and check it out listen man look at Keith Lee say you got a house to tear down Brick by Brick it’s time we’re finally going to get this Feud I’ve been waiting for this

Like I said you could do some big things with this some things just look right they look right and I just had to put that up just so uh the fine folks would see man I know we we could Deep dive into swerve all day being in the main event but

Um let’s talk about aew from a business perspective Sean what did you make of these releases or it sounds like that they were mutual like hey I got a better offer I’m out peace thanks a lot though Tony it was fun starting this with you Deuces Matt Jackson’s wife appears to be

Gone from the merchandising side of things and we also had somebody leave who’s in charge of Live Events sounds like he’s going to be working for the uh Brooklyn Nets now right um yeah I think that move to the Brooklyn Nets was just a business move um but as relates to you

Know the other changes in the company I think it’s just a m a sign of the times I think that you they’ve been bringing on a lot of people for a lot of time bro and I think there comes a point where it’s like okay you know what maybe we

Need to reevaluate our spending habits our salaries our income versus our output you know what I’m saying and pretty much figure out what’s what and who’s who as far as it relates to necessary employees right so when you have a decision about necessary employees you might come across a name

That you glossed over in the past because you weren’t really worried about it but now it’s okay is this person really necessary do we need this company uh to have this person order to be successful or is this person Expendable I know that sounds a little bit

Cutthroat but it’s business right and I think that’s what this is I don’t think it’s one of those undercover storyline things when I say storyline mean real life storyline business behind the scenes things where okay WWE released 14 people because they’re trying to save money to bring in CM Punk or something

Like that I think this just aew t F and they realize that they’re trying to get be in this for the Long Haul right and that bringing in everybody and their brother is just not best for business to co a phrase I I think that there’s also

Something to look at as in WWE did just release a bunch of people because of merging companies and there’s overflux of talent you don’t need three HR people of all these companies are merging together you only need one um so who gets to stay who gets to go and people

Got to put their people in the spot some people hey you’re gone about the time this ties into my point from last week or two weeks ago about four years you know about four and a half five years where they’re like okay you know what we need to

Re-evaluate um like I said there’s no coincidence like I said WWE major issue from the time raw was uh was in introduced to the world in 1993 four and a half years later they’re in uh you know they in flux had to make some changes 1995 Nitro by 1999 going into

2000 flux had to make some changes unfortunately those changes did not work out to the point where they had to go out of business aew same thing 2019 we’re going into 2024 now we have to figure out okay you know what who needs to be here who doesn’t and whoever’s

Here has to be strictly to make this company be in the black when I mean black I mean red and black red being deficit black being profit everything has to make sense moving forward I and I agree with that and I think that was uh some of the issues

Live Events has been one of their weak areas recently too so maybe a change in that department is a good thing I personally just don’t think there’s anything that can help uh Sean opened my eyes to it with the devil storyline it it was when I had my aha moment when you

Were explaining it to me and I keep saying this but it like something clicked when you were talking about it nothing is going to be good enough for a while for them nothing I don’t care if they brought in okada Goldberg whomever whoever they bring in is not good enough

Until Triple H messes up this is chess now you have to wait for the moment where oh man we’re all mad at Triple H because he made this decision Checkmate that’s when you step in and you have to do Checkmate got you I’m over here doing

It though come check me out that’s what they need to be waiting for they they’re kind of waiting in the wing but you also have to operate business as usual um Kevin Sullivan someone brought up as was a production guy who was let go as

Well hired uh by he was a guy from WWE yeah Kevin was with WWE in the beginning then he went to impact and then he came over to aew um yeah the other guy came in and supposedly he’s taking over Kevin’s duties who was doing the post production and everything else

Uh that sucked I like Kevin Sullivan um not the Taskmaster by the way um but yeah there’s just a lot of changes like Sean said and you’re gonna have to look at things and re-evaluate look the Buck’s wife um Matt Jackson’s wife Dana she was there since the beginning too

And they’re look at they’re making a move I think in her position aew grew much faster than people expected it to they came in in 2019 as like this is a small company WWE released all those people and aw bit and took swerve give me Keith Le give me uh I’m trying to

Think of who else got released at that time Mercedes Martinez we just saw the video packages from Ali Ziggler like there’s a lot of talent out there you gotta pick and choose who you want so you just you just gave me your flower you just gave me um some flowers

For my point about um the mass man storyline allow me to reciprocate and give you some flowers because what we need to realize also is that when it comes to aew yes you’re 100% right they’re going to have to wait for Triple H to make a mistake and let me

Take the time to say shame on you aew shame on you all elite wrestling for putting yourselves in that position because Conrad is exactly right now you have to wait until Triple H messes up now it’s a situation where you’re the number five team in the country and you

Have to hope that number one two three or four loses for you to get into the college football playoff because you made the mistake you put all your eggs in a basket and you made some significant decisions that made some sign significant setbacks to your company and now you need the other team

To mess up so allow me to piggy back off of that great point you just made yeah yeah that that’s a great analogy actually that they are in the Wild Card per se or they’re trying to get into the wild card and they’ve made some some errors and how do you get in

You’re waiting for like well I need this team to beat this team and then I can finally try to make my move here and then I got to win too making more work for yourself um and I and I think that this company has just grown like I said

It’s it’s a travesty when you go to these aw shows there’s not enough shirts you know who always has enough shirts these guys always did they never ran out of merch when you go to the stands if they did it was a crazy night cra crazy night for

Business where’s the sting masks you don’t have sting masks you you show up they they’re selling action figures that are signed they have some T-shirts but where is the goods where’s the stuff that you want that’s there you know they’re always missing things so I I’ve always thought aw could do better in

That aspect and I’m hoping the next person who comes in amplifies it you know what I mean they they want Major League results yeah well now you’re I was going to say you’re dealing with CM Punk you could have had you could have sold more of his shirts probably if

You had them I’m a punk fan Sean I would go to these shows I’m like oh not my size see you oh you don’t have it right now peace I’m out of here oh it’s is it on sale or is it not at this moment nah

Well what the anal I was going to make to your point is this at the end of the day you’re conducting yourself like a minor league team and Major League results you know what the you know what you know what the key when you get called up from the minor leagues from

Triple A to Major League Baseball do you know what the big changes besides obviously you’re on the big stage and you’re you’re playing in the show the difference is steak compared to Hamburger the difference is your locker has an iPad and a USB port for all your electronics while the locker that you

Had in Triple A had nothing but a hanger for your for your uniform the difference is you’re riding around in a limousine going to a jet airplane compared to what you were doing before was riding a school bus to another bus that’s the difference if you want to be

Considered Major League then you need to conduct yourself as Major League em respectfully I’m saying this respectfully I think they’re a heck of an organization House Of Glory wrestling House Of Glory wrestling has those kind of issues House Of Glory wrestling will run out of shirts here and there House

Of Glory will have issues with this that and the third but but they’re considered to be somewhat of a lesser tier of an organization so they get away with that kind of stuff and by the way big shout out to wrest to House of Glory wrestling

Big shout out to my good friend TJ Marone and everybody over there because they’re putting on a tremendous product I say that with respect they are a a company that is seen to be something that is a step below the major organizations WWE never runs out of merchandise never and your

Aew you’re out of merchandise that’s a that’s a major football it’s not even that they’re running out Sean it’s there it’s like they’re like oh you can order it online I want it now like people come to wrest I have a pocket full of money usually

Like give me a reason to give it to you make me regret it when I listen I saw Rob we went to a show in Toronto this is a few years back Rob spent money on a championship belt because it was cheaper in Canada than it would be any anywhere

Else for him to get he was like yo I’m about to get this title grabbed himself a replica belt and it was cheaper but you know what the impulse buy was worth it because he still has it to this day enjoys it loves it for what it is same

Thing here dog like I I just don’t I don’t understand why you wouldn’t have that stuff so like you said at least they’re recognizing that this needs to happen this might be someone who grew too fast though look at the beginning days of aw Darby Allen versus Joey

Janella was a match that we paid 20 bucks for I think on a a show you would get matches like Cody versus Sammy gavar but then we eventually started getting into CM Punk versus Eddie Kingston we were getting towards Kenny Omega John Moxley you started getting bigger names

Added to this card it wasn’t just like Jericho versus whomever it wasn’t just Moxley versus whomever or Kenny versus whomever then it became well we’ve got punk now too we gotta get punk a match we’ve got swerve Keith Lee they need a match you got Ricky Starks who’s on the

Ascent who needs a match I think they just grew too fast and they didn’t know how to slowly handle it and morph into these changes a couple of these guys would have been great but I think they picked up so many that it was rough for

Them uh Prince Rockstar says aw’s in a rebuild I could agree with that I would agree with that as well uh Mike I want to see the mounty come back good luck with that I don’t think they’re going to bring him back anytime soon aw outgrew Dana Mrs Matt a

While business cannot be soft-hearted uh Triple H’s biggest fault will be not signing will will Osprey we’ll see how that turns out I don’t know that might be will might regret that we’ll see you never know how that turns out aw caught fire when WWE was lost in the woods with the Gess

Situations but then you let the golden goo slip through your fingers now WWE has momentum but people also acted like Triple H had the book and everything changed me and Sean went back through we’ve told you how everyone’s been booked we did that that was a show for

Us I don’t even remember what episode it was but we went through this back in a look at what he’s done in a year we’re like what have you done with all these people has anybody three three letters m h nah yeah we had Cody elevated but you

Had to do that you got Jade you’re treating Jade like a big deal but where’s she been lately even Punk pun’s not on TV every week he’s going to be on TV a couple times leading into I think he’s in the Portland raw another raw uh in a couple

House shows and then he’s at the rumble is punk part-time or is he full-time are you sending Punk home because you don’t want the problems I don’t know some of the stuff isn’t on Punk it might be on Triple H super facts bro um yeah Prince uh it’s like a soft

Reboot if anything they need a soft reset Year anyway WWE does to they call it the Road to WrestleMania Road to WrestleMania shout out to Justin leafer big shout out to the homie Justin leaper of Road to WrestleMania and shout out to whoever just text me that was

Loud scared me uh easy said always good with merch and uh FanDuel handles it now some of the stuff is ugly but they take full advantage of the IP and your pockets you can always get what you get aw shirts can’t get uglier LOL some are good some look cheap lately yes

Sometimes just trying to throw shirts out too quickly where I’m like hey let’s let’s make this look cool one of my number one things is Sean when I wear a wrestling shirt I don’t want people to see it’s a wrestling shirt you know why I like these it’s not even just because

It’s CM Punk it’s because it’s not ugly sure I could wear this with some jays and someone might be like are you from Chicago like what’s up with no I’m just a wrestling fan that’s it you know or why why am I wearing these because I’m GNA be wearing red sneakers a red

Hat like the stuff has to to go with who you are as a person you got to make that swag work look at you’re wearing black and gold if sea had a a bullet Club gold pen it on with that it would look nice it would look nice like it works because

That’s the swag he’s going for when it comes to this I’m just saying things to think about aw when you’re putting stuff on when you’re when you’re coming out with the with the goodness all right aw doesn’t run out they don’t have it I’ve been to two shows and what they had at

The merch table is what they had well I’ve been some of the bigger shows mckenny and they ran out of stuff too where they’re like yeah we don’t have any more forbidden door shirts how what you don’t have much here what do you mean you don’t have forbidden door shirts

Anymore it’s crazy it’s crazy uh WWE doesn’t need will offer they got Ricochet at home wow whe uh when aw was about to do that story with bowwow that’s when I knew yeah that was a tough day yes oh poor ba wow someone said if

Triple H calls bowwow it’s over for aw I saw that punk is uh in small doses to keep him under control design design design speaking of t-shirts New Japan is selling a ba Danielson shirt I have not seen it Matt you may have to send me that but I haven’t really checked

Twitter too much today um and by the way our handles are underneath if you want to follow us on Twitter IG you know things like that you guys can always do that as well always looking forward Sean you’re on threads kind of right did did I give you I gotta get you

On uh blue sky that that seems to be the next one that’s coming up I got a code for you remind me to give you I appreciate that man yeah we’re gonna we’re gonna get you on there that’s it’s an invite only one right now uh I’ll DM

You the shirt Matt just said uh Craig said I like wrestlers wearing their shirt for at least a month too many new shirt designs yeah that’s just internet like things happen faster and faster they’re doing ones where people get black eyes they’re like let’s put

Out a shirt of Brit Baker next week and I’m like slow down on that I mean I wasn’t mad at it but I was like if you guys would have just waited a week You’ have been like ah this really isn’t that big a deal this isn’t that big a

Deal um I don’t know but Sean let’s talk let’s talk best of 2023 here I know I took this uh graphic uh it’s a lot of WWE stuff it could be some aew stuff but what what are you what were some of the moments you’ve enjoyed so far for this

Year like it’s titled best of 2023 uh same for you guys in the chat tell me a couple big moments that matter to you it could be like one two three we can go through a couple you guys could put some randomly out there well I want

To talk for first of all I want to make sure I mention the rise of RI Ripley I think she’s ascended to be the probably the number one female wrestler in the company right now in WWE also I really think that we need to talk

About the Usos um all the way up until uh the summer they were the hottest thing in the industry um that money in the bank bro we were talking about this offline we got to bring this up that money in the bank was it Smackdown they

Were on it was Friday the Friday after Money in the Bank Madison Square Garden I was there by the way I was there it was nuts um and you know obviously SS trickling and I also think think the return of edge was really good even though it’s kind of you

Know fell on tough times recently but um the biggest thing I would say that’s kind of small list I have but I want to really put an exclamation point uh for 2023 over the name Christian Cage I think Christian Cage really became um reinvented himself and has been amazing

In 2023 I I it is mindboggling how he has um cultivated the wrestling world and made made himself a big name once again and um as we’ve said in previous shows some people would say it’s argu I don’t think there’s an argument at all I think Christian is doing at this stage

In his career the best work of his entire life so um I’d say definitely best 2023 has to be Christian Cage man yeah those are definitely some uh interesting things for me I’ve really enjoyed like the the ascent of uh as the Intercontinental Champion I’m glad that they they went forward with

Stuff the way that they did um I’m very happy that he’s gotten to beat Honky Tonk man’s Title reign that might be just a little bit because I’m Not A Honky Tonk Man Fan either but uh he got to defeat that re I think Gunther’s the

Real deal he’s a future main eventer for them I just hope they handle everything right with him moving forward and it’s crazy to think like a few weeks before uh Gomez wasn’t in the position anymore they wanted to take the belt off of him he wasn’t failing them anymore like

Thank goodness that didn’t happen um looking at it I’m happy for the impact wrestling I thought they’ve had a really good year and surprising us with some really good cards Alex Shelly someone who I did not predict to be the champion has done a tremendous job filling in

When Macklin and Josh Alexander went down and they’re running with the Motor City Machine Guns up at the top right now all love and respect to what they’re doing over there and now TNA wrestling’s going to be back like that’s a huge deal in my opinion as well um you talked

About the Usos the bloodline that was the hottest thing going from January to about July it’s been it’s been amazing I mean taking a little hit a little bit of a rough patch lately but 100% all the way through uhat Jimmy super kick J yeah SummerSlam 2023 is when it all ended in

My boat yeah it was just that if you were going to do it you had the chance to do it you know look at when the OS got the first pinfall over Roman how big of a deal that was that was a big he never he

Hadn’t been pinned in a long time and they let Jay Uso pen him like yeah I got you bro don’t ever say Roman didn’t make anybody like in this like family that wouldn’t be accurate at all no saying the Roman never made anybody that’s that’s not true yeah yeah I I

Think he’s done more than his predecessor will say who was the last top face of the company totally um I even thought the stuff with Cody was really good Paul Haymon and him I never thought it would work so masterfully it has um aew this Continental classic I’ve

Really really enjoyed it I thought that this has been a tremendous tournament this is something I’d like to see them keep now can aw do a tournament every quarter I think we need to look at things this is and this is another thing like you said it’s been five years let’s

Sit down and look at what tournaments are working what tournaments are not why are we doing this tournament why are we doing this tournament if we’re doing these two tournaments how about if we have to vacate a belt let’s do this instead let’s do that instead let’s not

Do another tournament because aw is just tournament tournament tournament tournament tournament you get one for uh the leadup to your show in New York City the Grand Slam Tournament you got the Owen Hart Cup tournament for women and men you’ve got the tournament now with the Continental classic it’s a lot it’s

A lot then you got Ring of Honor tournaments and blah blah blah Ring of Honor cool thing that they brought back they delivered on pay-per-views maybe it’s time to look at what’s ring of Honor’s future um yeah yeah uh I’m interested to see what some of the people are saying let me see

What Mike put in here do you guys think aw fight forever had a chance for a comeback or should they go with fight forever 2 take a couple years get their game together like the fans want oh I’m gonna throw that to you Sean I’m gonna we’ll jump into this question I

Guess I I think I think it has a chance but it would have to definitely be something that there have to be some major improvements um uh I don’t think it was them ask my opinion no I was gonna say I don’t think it was them if you ask my opinion

Forever I think fight forever two and just taking some time would be the best most prudent thing to do so you’re saying just take the take the couple hits on the chin maybe put out that you know what I’m saying I think that’s where we’re at at this

Point honestly but but Sean look at where video games are today and I I know this is a sidebar thing but sounds like video game fans will enjoy this when it comes down to wrestling video games in today’s market bro it’s different than when me and you were growing up playing

Video games Sean what was the first wrestling video game you remember like really being into or getting uh Raw versus Smackdown versus Raw like 09 I think it was really so that was like one of the first ones you got like I remember getting like Royal Rumble like on Sega stuff like that

Old oh yeah like um WrestleMania like WrestleMania for like SGA Genesis okay I had um you’re talking about like the arcadey one or you talking about one yeah all right cause super WrestleMania was my jam too a little bit I had the one my first wrestling game was the one with Hulk

Hogan boss man I think it was WrestleMania challenge I want to say that was the name of it I’d have to look it up where they had like the music playing but it was like eight bit like whatever you got like 10 hits first

One to get the 10 hits then you win the match yay blah blah blah I love playing those games when I was a kid dude it was so much fun and um when it comes down to it I think that fight forever is um let me see here I think fight forever

Is in a good spot to release this season 3 DLC and see if they can get uh I know you’re advate so yeah yeah listen but it’s not that I think if season three can deliver then cool maybe maybe there’s still some way to pump life back into this but if not

Um they they’re gonna have to make that move in my opinion and just try to get fight for it’s gonna be hard for them to get a developer though what I’m saying is when we grew up Sean I was just watching someone play Like Home Alone on

Sega I had that game I had Street Fighter two I had Sonic I had games that I didn’t know what they were even about because you could take those Chan es back in the day now games are 70 a pop bro Sean I’m watching every review interview gameplay I’m like is this

Worth $70 or no okay I think I think more than that is the answer is no more than likely right um Let me let me see here uh hard to believe Christian is a talking point from 20123 oh it’s it sounds right crazy said now if they had the bloody Becky

Shirt that probably would have been a hit like blood Austin they probably should have done that the Judgment Day on raw and the bloodline on Smackdown Judgment Day is weird I they’re like hit or miss for me if I enjoy them or not uh yeah the booking of Ria Ripley is

Great the issue with Ria Ripley is the whole um how do I want to put this the whole like there’s no competition within her Division and it’s kind of like uh SmackDown run rough shot over the division which is makinging a little boring yeah um let me see here that was me

Responding McKenna impact has had an amazing year back in TNA love the signings of kushida and Dana Luna in uh TNA Wrestling towards the end of the year Impact Wrestling has had much better pay-per-views than WWE easily impact’s writing is really good I always tell people that man Continental tney

Has been much better than the others Owen Hart turny no one cares about the women’s hardly see them anyway wow um right shout out to Mike too for uh loving what we said about the swag and the colors matching on things Gunther makes the icy title hot the bloodline

Story was fire the Judgment days coming together bringing back videos that show stars and building them up Nakamura has been presented much better I think too but you got to let him win that’s the issue with some of the WWE folks uh e coming in fight forever solid

Foundation the more they build on it better sequel the beautiful thing is that they own the engine so it’s not like it goes with the developer and if it doesn’t work out change the developer you know what I mean uh I wish they locked down Brian Williams and Justin

Leaper always bag fumble yeah I don’t know what happened with that uh I would love to see Gunther versus the Beast Brock Lesnar be careful what you wish for Mike that’s all I can say with that uh they dropped the ball on fight forever and haven’t recovered I think

It’s a good game de but I I like the gameplay I can see why people say that though Dev studios are closing left and right it only took Saints Row reboot to shut their doors aw’s better off trying a live service and have small L’s and big learning opportunities true that aew

Taking a chance on themselves all in at Wembley Stadium I mean Sean we talked about that a lot that was a dub right right I would agree I think they definitely did their thing and I think it was a pay-per-view that was worthy of running it back next

Summer right um let me see here we talk about kindo classic forbidden door I loved forbidden door I was there live that was such a great show Kenny and will ospr might have had best match Stars stepping up smooth over aw will bounce back in 2024 I’m with it Merry Christmas guys

Coming to late God bless you all Vinnie thank you the only Vinnie that we like I’m stealing Sean’s uh stealing Sean’s gimmick only Vinnie we like around here uh people will literally say this game plays great but I’d rather play the worst game with the better graphics you

Can’t win uh would y’all like to see great muda in WWE games yeah I would love to see muda I’m a big M muda long over by the way long overo muda lier and chono but there’s got to be something difficult to get them in there like with

Their rights or what they can own about it one of the biggest favorite fails of the Year Bobby fish where’s the LIE he thought he was gonna get a great reaction and it was crickets it was crickets um but listen guys we we could be here all day talking about this um wrestler

Fans always want to compare stuff no pallet for variety I hear you I hear you um everyone thinks Cody’s finishing the story at 40 we’re gonna have to wait and see about that I’m sure we’re gonna have coverage of this uh all the time but listen Sean I know that you are with

Family you’re out in Miami you got to run we actually went a little over what we expected but that’s all good not a problem not at all not at all Sean you want to take this out of here go ahead do your thing man uh I appreciate you

Merry Christmas to you and the family I hope you guys enjoy the company tonight enjoy yourselves and I want to say love you thank you for doing this show thank you for taking a chance on me 69 episodes ago grateful for the partnership than thank you wanted to

Show some love brother all right well number one you took a chance on me so uh thank you um I love you too you become my friend my brother I appreciate you U Merry Christmas to you and yours as well your beautiful family um to the chat we

Appreciate you guys man you know 69 episodes in a row is nothing this needs that you know we really appreciate each and every one of you participating our audience has grown which means we must be doing something right and we want you to just continue tell a friend to tell a

Friend man that’s what it’s all all about you know of course we have the t-shirts and the merchandise and stuff like that but the most important thing is to tell a friend to tell a friend because the more people that watch the more likely we are to continue moving on

And on so I already told you that the goal is to get to 100 episodes once we get to 100 the goal is to get to 200 episodes so we just want to continue the momentum and continue to grow the brand we appreciate each and every one of you

Uh this is the most special time of year for me and my family so we want to wish everybody a happy holiday season um truly grateful um to God and to all of you and to Conrad once again Conrad is such a humble dude but the truth of the

Matter is which he would never admit he’s the one who took a chance on me he has a much bigger audience and a much bigger following than I do and um I’m just so humbled and appreciative of him who has evolved not only from a co-host

And a colleague to somebody that is my friend so I love you my brother quills we love you too man God bless you listen each and every one of you m Ley quills mckenny uh guy gamble Deanna JJ everybody man you know saying Joel We Appreciate You my God thank you so much

Each and every person every family represented God bless be encouraged remember that at the end of the day um treat others how you want to be treated you know what I’m trying to say at the end of the day just if if you want love shown show love if you want care shown

Show care if you want peace shown show peace so with that being said on behalf of my brother my brother Conrad kushman and myself may God bless you during this holiday season will we we will be here live at our regular start time of 6:05 Eastern Standard Time next Monday night January 1st

2024 this will be if you can believe it or not this will be our third calendar year I know it’s 60 how is it third calendar year 69 episodes but think and we started in 20121 started in 2022 through 2023 and now into 202 so even though it’s only 69 episodes

It’s calendar year-wise it’s crossed over so we want to thank you guys for entering that third calendar year with us we appreciate you guys and may heaven smile upon you this holiday season and forever so for the last time in 2023 until we see you next year God bless and remember evil never

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