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00:00 Intro
2:45 Picks Recap
14:12 Russell Wilson Benched
18:30 Gold
28:35 Silver
43:39 Bronze
1:00:45 Teaser

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Are you allowed to ask a sports book for a refund on an under though or only overs oh I don’t know do I get like do I get my DJ hawson Money bet when him or or or or Addison when they Collide and both leave the game when we’re on

Minnesota maybe we should we should write a scroll letter to the sports book how we got screwed with two of their best weapons experience experience experience experience experience welcome to the pat Mayo experience week 17 Best Bets staying with you through the conclusion of the Super Bowl having the Best Bets

Every week unfortunately the Best Bets last week not so great they were not the best bets unless you were trying to lose then of course they were the Best Bets although it’s not like we were 0 and9 it just wasn’t good the teaser won so that’s always fantastic news smash the

Like sub to the channel while you’re here and I encourage you all to play in the season long oneandone golf contest open now and it’s filling very quickly and I have a giveaway so go to Fantasy Golf championships. you can have up to five entries but if you screenshot me

One of your entries on Twitter you can send it to the email whatever it might be then you are eligible to be in a draw for a free additional entry on top of that spots are going to go very quickly we’re not even at the new year yet so

There’s still like 17 days to enter But spots aren’t going to last that long so if you want to get one get in now if you live in a place like the UK or Ontario or Michigan places where this contest is not available to you what I would

Recommend is go to a different Province or state or country and register or just find someone that you know in one of these other places to register for you because you can make your picks from anywhere Rob it’s like when I go to Vegas with my DraftKings lineups I have

To pre-register for all the tournaments and then I can make my lineups once I get there that’s the pro move there’s nothing worse than showing up in Vegas and trying to log into your accounts and realizing you’re an idiot because you can’t log into any of your accounts so

Professional move there by you Pat yeah so cam that’s the way that’s the way it’s going to be for 2024 hey I personally think the whole thing is a bunch of [ __ ] like I gotta go to Vegas oh GE block like you know what I mean like it’s not like

We’re dealing heroin we’re betting on sports fantasy sports like anyway it is what it is I I we can’t even bet on a computer right Rob like everything’s on my phone like I go to the I go to the website oh can’t do it on your app okay

I get it sure I liked it before it was easier before when I could just do anything I wanted to do now ever since this legalization crap I can’t bet on my computer [ __ ] off why can’t you why can’t you bet computer yeah why can’t

You can’t bet no no bet 365 no it’s the app I can’t bet you cannot put bets in a computer you’re geol blocked you can’t do it on a computer you talk about you just need to download that thing the it still doesn’t work doesn’t work you

Cannot bet on a computer what do you mean you can’t bet on a computer you can’t you need physically bet on a computer every single day what yeah you need the authentic and then you need that open on your phone in the same room

I do have the both I do I do anyway I’ve been through this like thousand times even Mory and be he is the same thing we have to we have to bet on our phone man like that’s what we’re talking about like I don’t know what I’ve done wrong

Or anything trust me no sites like not just one like all of them that’s why you got a street book or you can just bet from your phone which is pretty easy I don’t really think so when during the shows it’s kind of like I i’ prefer

To be able to do it on the computer while you’re on the computer but anyway uh I probably did something wrong as usual I I don’t know I’m just telling you that’s what happened and it’s true I’ve tried and tried and tried and try it does not work well I want to welcome

Everyone back in during the holiday season a lot of people are still off right now so thank you for tuning in with us Rob I hope you had a good Christmas uh I did I enjoyed it I’m I’m a little bit beat down and I love seeing

Family and and friends and so on and so forth but with the mix of the way that Christmas worked this year and the overlap with NFL I’m I’m just running on fumes basically at the moment it’s really ruined my schedule but overall enjoyed it quite a bit uh good food

Seeing the family uh one of my favorite times of year but uh just not much of a break this year cam yeah yeah wouldn’t really say there was any break to be honest with you but uh yeah right back at it um I gotta be honest with you this Christmas me sucked

It was one of the worst ones ever I’ve ever had in my life uh just cooking for every just it was just depressing anyway I didn’t have a good Christmas I lost my bets it sucked but hey that’s life life moves on let’s hit winners this week to

Be honest with you all right let’s get some winers Scrooge yeah we we’ll get back on track line the pockets and people can have a very I guess they wouldn’t know by the time that New Year’s comes around but you can kick off 20124 with some cash in your pocket if

We get this right so let’s go over what we did last week like I said it wasn’t great a week ago we were one and two on the gold two and one with the silver and a big 0 for three with the bronze picks Minnesota was the team that really let

All of us down yeah Nick Mullins and that duck that was great nice throw yeah that was a tough one to watch I I mean just the whole comedy of of the F like the early Nick Mullins interception where both hackinson and Addison are chasing the defender down and run into

Each other and both get injured on the play like couldn’t write it any better than that but yeah Mullins is like the ultimate boo I thought jamus Winston was the ultimate Boomer bust guy I think Mullen surpassed him in that scenario because you’re just living on uh like

The edge of your seat with every single throw that that guy makes it’s so funny to see their offensive game plan with Mullins in versus what we saw with DOs earlier in the season it’s like they have the Kirk Cousins playbook in for Mullins but he just can’t make all of the

Throws that’s a good point I think like Mullins is just one of those guys he’ll make a miraculous throw as Rob said and then he’ll do like three bonehead things he’s just a guy it’s like he he figures it out then he’s bad and we got some

Really bad luck in that game too you know Rob Rob talked about like every injured guy we had like they were there also I’m not going to say this we say this every week but they had a play where they didn’t even hit the quarterback and it changed the whole

Like it was a third they would have punted back and we would have got great field position I remember some guy online he’s like oh it didn’t change the whole game well it changes flow of game when you have a a third and 15 or third

And 20 and you’re GNA punt we’re getting the ball back at Midfield yeah it does change the game it’s not just one call but like it it was a horrible call that went against them and it was would you say not rob an unnecessary call are getting way more like like it’s

Getting worse and worse I didn’t think it could get worse like every game it’s just brutal with these flags man yeah I tweeted it this week but I I actually don’t think I saw a roughing the passer that was called this week that was actually roughing the passer like it

It’s getting out of hand Dallas Miami there was one against both teams the Micah Parson’s won before the H half was a joke yeah like there’s just there’s too much of it and I agree with you Cam like okay it’s not the entire game but

It’s a third and 20 where one team is going to get the ball back that changes the complexion of of that series might be worth be worth 5% an individual play that a ref makes a call on uh it’s frustrating but ultimately at the end of

The day we backed Mullins he [ __ ] the B I mean the the Mullins is not bad but he has like um he has like a little bit of Desmond Ritter in him he’s better than Desmond Ritter but he has like this he can’t help himself in situations like

Sometimes dude it’s okay to take like the four yard pass and live and move live to fight another day but he just can’t he needs to try to make a play at all times and that works for certain guys it doesn’t work when your arm strength is what Nick mullen’s arm

Strength is so uh just frustrating loss but we were in it and ultimately like that that pick at the end like Jefferson is open he just got a lead the guy instead of throwing it five yards behind him and uh oh well it happens that’s life y that’s life sometimes we

All make mistakes uh I was scrolling through the X machine the other day and I saw a mistake from Rob Piza do you would you like to address that yes um so I’m watching NFL Red Zone this past week and there’s a play in the Falcons uh game where Taylor hnei throws

To bejan Robinson in the end zone but bejan Robinson is standing out of bounds catches the ball out of bounds it’s not a touchdown so I’m like bejan you idiot like you got you have one job to keep standing bounds you’re wide open and the commentator for the game who’s doing uh

Play-by-play says I think this one’s on Taylor aneki he got the ball out late it’s like no like the receiver is why he got the ball to a wide open receiver the receiver just couldn’t keep his feet in bounds so really quickly I do a quick Google search who’s play byplay for this

Game and uh I saw a Google result from a few years ago where Andrew catalon was commentating the Falcons game so I tweeted I’m a big Andrew catalon Guy which I am but I think he was wrong about this Taylor hinei play all right I

Don’t think much of it all of a sudden I don’t half an hour later my phone is blowing up like what’s going on Andrew catalon tweets back at me saying I’m calling the Seahawks Titans game today different game I’m like okay I guess I got the wrong play by play guy but I

Retweeted that it blew up it’s whatever but this guy tweeted back at me mid game he was doing another commentary wild I didn’t cam I did not tag this guy in the tweet I just typed his name some Twitter hits then Rob that’s pretty that’s pretty big I think this guy’s searching

His name mid game to see what people are saying about him no no no no no no no no someone someone let him know and then he responded to it there was there was 1,600 Impressions on this tweet when he responded to me it had been retweeted

One time and liked 13 times he’s great he be golf when Jim N is on his damn vacation he gets the B tournaments and golf Pat knows when it’s catalon season it’s good times on the BGA tour yeah so I I I said I apologize I got the you

Know the wrong commentator I didn’t know who the I still don’t know who the other guy is I barely I never heard his voice before that’s why I was very flumix and confused and I actually had to Google it so uh whatever honest mistake I’ll leave the Tweet up forever it’s a memorable

Moment and I will move on what are you going to do at least he got back to you that’s yeah honestly I got a lot of uh followers out of that the Tweet blew up got a lot of Engagement I should start M tagging people all the time that’s right

Fake news you give fake information you get more followers welcome to today yeah you can give out all the winning picks you want no one’s gonna follow you you miss you you misname a play-by-play announcer and never wants to follow her up exactly Pat yep yep that’s what I

Really realiz give them winners all year the minute you have a bad day oh everyone like to jump on with their little gifts and their little things that’s the world we’re living in right now [ __ ] don’t appre the minute you could do something great for somebody the minute you screw up everyone jumps

All over you it’s quite pathetic actually do you guys have any takes on this circus survivor guy that ended up going out yeah I have a take [ __ ] that guy I mean he’s do you have a problem with him not wanting to chop cuz I don’t

No I don’t have a problem with him not wanting to chop everyone I I listen like I’m I’m a it’s weird to say I’m a people pleaser so if like I’m down to final 10 in Survivor or it’s life-changing money for everyone and they all want to chop

I’d probably say yeah let’s chop half of it and let’s play for the other half and I would agree to now this guy didn’t want to do it that’s fine he’s within his right to not want to do that but the arrogance and the Cockiness like he

Tweeted I’m on the Broncos this week and I never lose he tweeted I never lose I’m [ __ ] glad he lost I’ve never cheered so hard for someone to lose amen you [ __ ] I never lose you’ve never lost a bet you [ __ ] clown that’s the whole the cocky new

Gambler everybody thinks they’re so good hey oh I win all the time no you don’t you don’t win all the time you post your winners you don’t post your losers that’s what you do like that’s the whole thing Rob like it used to be a game of

Honor even guys who were were on the other side they’d honor like it would be you’d meet you talk you like whatever now it’s just a bunch of [ __ ] trolls thinking they’re they’re they’re King [ __ ] they can’t do oh I’m the best you know what at least on our shows we admit

When we lose we admit when we win like I got fleece like I took Kansas City I took San Francisco had a bad Christmas like what do you want to do like not gonna lie about it I never lose you’re right Rob anybody says that stuff I hope

You lose every bet for the rest of your life jerk never lose and if you’re you and Mayo were on a team it’s good to saw it off you’re being selfish if you’re not looking at everybody else’s situation too like Rob the first year we

Won when we did the mini contest in the contest right we got 10,000 n headers me Mory like Paul bie a couple other guys right we got one game wrong we went 14 and one I go yeah well I want to split the money like you know what I mean like

If you’re in a situation where you could get a cut and it’s like you know 10,000 or more or whatever like that’s money you could take care of some problems with you have to look at people’s situation I know one guy on the team is worth a lot of money he’s a millionaire

He doesn’t care but he’s nice to us because he knows we need money because we’re not rich well this is this is like a $9 million price I know this is a this is lifechanging money 60 Grand I for a bunch of people so if everyone listen

It’s really hard when it’s 11 people to try to chop because you know you do need legal documents at that point to get everyone on the same boat it’s tough so I understand that but at the end of the day like if it’s if everyone can agree

To it then yeah I’d have no problem doing it even if I if I was the odd man out and I didn’t want to try I would still chop if everyone else wanted to do that just because like you know we’re dealing with life-changing money for everyone you’re gonna you don’t want to

Put someone out because of that situation but yeah that guy is a clown and I’m glad I mean I don’t like rooting for people to lose but when you are that arrogant and cocky and you come out and you’re like no I’m not chopping because

I’m gonna win I never lose I got this okay [ __ ] good what I’m glad the Broncos lost me too well the Broncos lost and now Russell Wilson is benched and no longer playing the entire season this is a a self-preservation move because they I I guess they just want to get Shawn

Pyton wants to get rid of him they don’t want him hurt and they don’t want have to guarantee his money for 2025 it’s pretty Cutthroat to be perfectly honest with you well they’d have to pay him 37 million next year if he plays and gets

Hurt so I I understand it um it’s it’s a business I mean when you make as much money as Russell Wilson does and you sign a type of contract like that there’s expectations that go with it he never met it Jared stm’s gonna get the start at least this week but probably

The rest of the season and honestly Wilson’s just not been like all those num there was that Denver beat reporter at the beginning of the year who was comparing like Russell Wilson to all the top quarterbacks every week because he had like a 80% completion percentage or

Something like he sucks he has sucked for a while now they Shawn pton obviously has no faith in him to move the ball down field they don’t even try so at this point like it’s not strictly performance it’s the contract but I don’t mind giving STM a shot and

Honestly like like the way that the line has moved on this game all this money coming in on the Chargers now because STM is starting I I’m not sure that it’s that much of a downgrade based off of what we’ve seen yeah it’s it’s dropped two and a half points since Tuesday

Since I basically since the announcement was made about 35 minutes ago it’s gone down from five and a half to three so I mean I think the Broncos might end up making the mineral picks for me this week so there’s a bunch of different guys cam starting this week it’s a great

Backup week for you you got sthm starting not sure in Tennessee yet whether it’s Levis or tanah Hill as of right now but Tyrod is back in jacobe brassette is playing for the Washington commanders you must be in your glory yeah Pat I a few of them I gotta

Be honest with you though I prefer Drew lock to be starting for Seattle in Pittsburgh and I’m not just saying that like it’s Gino Smith like Seattle’s won games in Tennessee and stuff nothing’s easy I hate to say it like foreshadowing yeah I’m gonna have some uh backup

Quarterbacks going but here’s the here’s the thing I don’t understand like I just like and jacobe brassette he’s just a professional like he’s just one of those guys that when you throw him into a game he’s been there before and he gave Washington a bump in that game when they

Were getting killed by the Jets it’s like I’m not going to say these guys are great but especially when you’re a veteran guy and you’ve been in these situations for what the hell do you got to lose if you throw some picks you’re gonna be on the bench anyway who gives a

[ __ ] just air it out and have a good time right and that’s what these guys are doing and a lot of the time the players are happy it’s like hey this guy’s throwing me the ball and stuff but if I got to be honest Pat I wasn’t sure like is Malik Willis potentially

Starting if he is that’s uh that’s a problem for Tennessee yeah it’s probably a problem for Tennessee regardless of who starts from them at quarterback yes yes yes yes I feel bad for tanah Hill he’s like he might be at the end of his rope he’s had so many injuries and stuff

Like he’s he’s been beat up his whole career he looked spry last week though he was taken off and running he had to oine was Under Fire the entire game if he stood in the pocket he might died in that game uh Tennessee got a bunch of o

Line injuries but yeah but that’s always been tanah Hill is actually sneaky athletic oh Rob he was a receiver at Texas A&M like he’s good dude when back in the day when they used to run this the like naked bootleg with him on the goal line he would always outrun the

Linebacker he he tanah Hill was I I I actually think tanah Hill is one of the more underrated quarterbacks of our gener like not saying he’s good but people think back on tanah hill and be like ah R you’re right he’s never had a good line if you put him behind

Cleveland’s line what do you think he will do he will shred you like that’s the thing if he gets protection tanah Hill’s decent like any quarterback y That’s the whole thing how we judge quarterbacks it’s all about the offensive line like a lot of these guys

Are Ryan tanhill Pat is a great athlete he’s been hurt his whole career they put him in bad positions and Tennesse has had has had holes in their line like you put him behind a team with a line like Dallas or or Cleveland I think he’d be

Fine yep I’m with you thank you well let’s get to the gold picks Spotify question of the week if you go to the Spotify poll I will have our three gold picks up there and you can vote on the one which you think is most likely to

Come through on the Spotify page for this episode if you do that there might be something in it for you in terms of a draw so please go do that and vote in the Spotify poll got to crank those Spotify numbers up my pick gold the team that’s just been really good recently

And I’ve been thoroughly impressed with how they’ve been playing on both sides of the ball I mean they’re a bit inconsistent They’re Not Great by any means and I think they’re taking on my most hated team of the second half of the season so I will take the Chicago

Bears minus three hosting Atlanta love it love I didn’t know where you were going with that one I could thought it could be one of two I thought it was gonna be something else I thought it was going to be the my trap I know the Bucks win this week and

I win a huge bet on my preseason bucks to win the division at 10 to one so there’s no way they win this week it’s impossible the funny thing is I want you to win but I really think that is the Trap of the week that game I tend agree

With you no no I like I love the Saints I was gonna make the Saints my gold pick I don’t love the Saints but I just I I would take the Saints plus three yeah interesting just everyone you’re but Pat you’re in a good situation you’re in a

Good situation yeah I don’t want I’m not I don’t want to hedge I’m I’m not I’m not here to hedge yeah you sound like munzy I’m not a gardener I hate that [ __ ] if I was going to win like 20 grand on it then yeah I would hedge I’m

Not going to win I on it I don’t want to bet against you though like we’re we like each other we’re friends I see exactly what you see coming into this game like I think that the Bucks are the better team but everything is just far too good for the Buccaneers at the

Moment you know but Evans is gonna resign and Baker’s gonna resign we’re gonna go to the playoffs well Rob they’re not there yet yeah I it does feel like they they’re at the high point right now right Tampa’s come off back-to-back really good games I I I I

Honestly guys like this is very coo for I don’t have very many opinions this week on the NFL I haven’t bet aside yet so I don’t want to just be the guy in the background that’s like I don’t know what to do here I I I think that like

Three in both of these games is kind of a right number where if it came off of three I would have some interest in whichever side it came off of um the Bears are playing really well I bet the under last week I had to sweat that out

Quite a bit but I was really surprised at how efficiently their offense moved it in the first half against they Arizona it was just methodical down the field scoring I have no faith D Mo got hurt too Rob one catch for six yards they still did it with other guys like

Herbert was in there like their whole team Pat I love your pick like I like what’s Arizona gonna do like now they’re not at home it’s just this is this is this is a game like the Bears I kind of think they’re just kind of sitting there

Going you know what let’s finish strong and eflu might have saved his job and they’re playing a lot better it’s just Atlanta’s a horrible team too like you know what I mean like you take Atlanta away from Atlanta I was on them last week but this is this is classic Atlanta

They’ll win a game at home and [ __ ] the beted on the road bears are nothing for me well hopefully the Bears just do a little bit of advanced scouting on the offense that Atlanta was running last week and know that they only check down to running backs that is their only play

Yeah the the the only issue I I like hinaki a lot more than I like Ritter because he’s doesn’t make that big mistake as often like whenever Ritter starts you can count on the other team to get like two or three turnovers essentially pretty much every single

Start that he makes hinei a little bit better I honestly think that that might have been by Design pad exactly what you mentioned it’s just like hey like you know we struggle with turnovers we’re fine if we don’t turn the ball over let’s protect it a little bit more but

Uh Chicago’s playing really well and like people didn’t want to come around on their defense for the longest time and it’s a very good unit right now like they they consistently for six or seven weeks in a row now when they’re at full health get you know a good defensive

Lineman in Montes sweat they have performed at like a well above average level so I don’t I don’t hate it at all I I think the Bears like people have been slow to catch up to them so that’s gonna be my pick it’s funny how much I

Kind of like mock the Bears for that Mones sweat trade giving up a second rounder for a guy that you could sign but you know I’m wrong about stuff all the time wrong about that he’s been since he showed up they’ve been a great defense yep yep they were they were they

Had a lot of injuries in the secondary to start the the year it was just like Bears game okay Bet the over bet the over they have nobody in the secondary now this is the NFL right like sometimes teams just they get healthy yeah and and the Falcons are the opposite way around

Early in the year they they had like the cleanest injury report for six or seven weeks of the Season then we saw in recent weeks they started to get some defensive line injuries Grady Jarrett went on IR for a bit they had some issues in the secondary offensive line

And all of a sudden they Trend downhill so you got to adapt but uh yeah I mean I wish it wasn’t I was hoping to get the bears under three and in a battle of wits that actually take ever flues over Art Smith art art art yeah don’t called

Arthur yeah art okay art whatever you say Bears well let’s see here in terms of the spread at draftking sports book right now it’s minus 108 on the minus three I guess like theoretically it could drop to two and a half probably not yeah I I I don’t know that it’s

Going to move honest I actually have no idea what a lot of these games are going to do this week so I’m just interested because also because of Christmas the markets open late on a lot of these games this week there was lots of games that were off the board so like

Everything is kind of like a day behind we’re recording on Wednesday but it actually feels like a Tuesday to me we we saw some lines just open up this morning so yeah it’s a it’s a tricky week do you got a gold pick I do certainly this isn’t going to

Get the votes in the uh in in the poll on Spotify I’ll tell you that uh of the games that I somewhat like this week I like the Carolina Panthers getting seven points so do I against jackon uh I think there’s a lot of upside here obviously you have Trevor Lawrence dealing with

The the AC joint injury so you could get a scenario where it’s CJ bethard I don’t know that for sure but honestly the Jags just suck right now they suck like it’s been five or six weeks now at the beginning of the year their offense wasn’t very good but their defense was

Holding them in games we talked about a million times we’re like how are the Jags doing this with their defense Personnel they shouldn’t be this good well guess what they are not that good and as the season has gone on the defense has just kind of Fallen apart um

I I’m not a Bryce young fan at all but in the last couple weeks they’ve been stretching the field a little bit more he looks a little bit more comfortable in this new offense he’s playing better the o line is held up a little bit more

Uh the I just I can’t get here with Jacksonville needing to win by margin right now with the way that they are playing overall um so give me the Carolina I love it Rob hey they’ve covered the last two weeks make let’s some hope for three they’re playing

Better I like I can’t believe how bad they got beat down in that game versus Tampa they look awful like they didn’t even look like a football team that’s trying like Peterson looks like lost Lawrence is like he he shouldn’t even be out there they should they’d be better

With Beth like what’s happening with this team like they look awful a that’s the whole thing it’s that Lawrence has been playing through these injuries and he seems like he’s 30% at the moment like the guy can’t move he can’t throw he can’t make a quick decision like they

Got to get him out of there and let him rest and and on top guys on top of that they haven’t been able to run the ball all year they try to force etn they they just cannot pick up big games altogether Christian Kirk went went on IR Z Jones

Is injured if you look at that wide receiver crew when those guys aren’t there it’s Calvin Ridley they’re number two is Parker Washington and then they have like Tim Jones like they they don’t have the personnel it’s just not a good team like they’re not a good team right

Now and trending in opposite directions so I think this is too many points honestly you need Jacksonville to win by margin of course they can do it but I think Carolina’s trending uphill Jacksonville I don’t think they’ve hit the bottom yet I do think it’s you mentioned that the Bucks minus three cam

Is a fishy line this one feels like a fishy line to me too because I don’t know who in the right Minds is like man give me Jacksonville minus 7 right now I know that’s what I’m scared of that’s why I’m kind of like I’m taking Carolina

But the fact that it’s right on seven like Jacksonville’s a hard team to back right now but I’m with Rob it’s Carolina or nothing for me guys but I got even a crazier gold pick for you guys I was thinking like I think that New Orleans

Game’s a trap it’ll be in the minerals but I’m taking the New York football Giants plus four and a half is my uh gold pick this line was five and a half people are betting the Rams I we talk about stocks I think the ram stock is

High I like how the Giants played with Tyrod Taylor they’re at home I think this is a big game after the Tommy cutless DeVito stuff I think he showed up in this game and I think they can win out right so I’m taking the New York Giants against the Rams we talk about

Stocks the Rams stock has never been higher I think the Giants at home are a different team they’re still trying give me the Giants at four and a half feels like another Trap game of the week I’m on the Giants yeah the the lion the moment they announced hrod as the

Starter about an hour ago the line dropped a full point from five and a half to four and a half I still like the Rams in this game uh I think that it’s not that they’re undervalued it’s just I at this point I trust

Stafford yeah no I get it I just I I just it’s for me it’s just like situations and you know what Pat that really bothered me is I got out of my usual routines last week and you know I took the Chiefs and I should have know

Divisional game with the Raiders and the 49ers they weren’t a desperate team like I went against dogs and everything that I that I believe in and like really screwed up so I gotta get back to who I am just finding weird lines and situations and the Giants fits the bill

For me so I’m on the Giants okay so you can go vote between those three games Chicago minus three Carolina plus 7 and the Giants plus 4 A2 as the best of the gold picks on the spotifi episode poll right now uh I almost guarantee you that

My pick is going to win which means you should just fade Chicago minus three everyone’s gonna like we’re not gonna no it’s a good pick well it’s gonna win the poll it’s gonna win the poll because they’re the favorite on the that No One’s Gonna want to bet the Giants and

Panthers this week of of all teams yeah exactly 100 per. Rob silver pick okay um I’m G to go like again like a weird game that no one’s even talking about or considering right now I would say uh I’m just going to take the Titans

Plus four and a half at the Texans yep and again kind of a similar handicap but I think that there’s some upside in betting the Titans there it’s not a foregone conclusion that CJ Stout is gonna play in this game for one he’s practicing today so that’s good news

Correct he had a lot of sensitivity to light last week which is an issue coming off of concussions um and definitely like there’s there’s a possibility that it happens if you look though over the course of the past several seasons at quarterbacks making their return off of

A concussion and you look at their EPA numbers their success rate numbers there’s typically a big performance impact in their first game back off of a concussion so that’s one thing that matters to me the second is that the Texans even if they have CJ strad they

Just love to run the ball they love to run and we look at what Seattle tried to do with Tennessee last week like that’s not the way you beat the Titans you just throw on The Titans with success but de Deo Ryan’s a very defensive coach they

Have a very uh High early down run rate in the league and they’re very conservative I expect them to be that way even if stad plays if he doesn’t it’s a bonus for me because I don’t think they have a good quarterback outside of that Tennessee did see Case

Keenum a couple weeks ago they I mean they almost picked them off four times but they didn’t but either way I just think it’s too many points uh for a Houston team that I don’t think is deserving of spotting these types of numbers just yet especially with the

Injuries that they have on their defensive line as well so uh I don’t love it by any stretch of the imagination but I think this number is a a tad too high the the issue with Tennessee right now is obviously we don’t know who’s starting a quarterback

For them at the same time but it’s both teams are defensively constructed a little similarly at least the way that I see it they’re both like kind of bad pass defenses really good run defenses and both both these offenses don’t really want to pass they want to run I

Do think that if strout is back and he’s not completely limited like you said with a concussion in the first week coming back off that if he’s even like 85% of what he was I think they can handle the Titans pretty well but that’s a lot of ifs in that situation yeah I

Think like a big thing for me is Jonathan greenard uh got hurt last week they already have Will Anderson out on the defensive line Blake Cashman as well in their front seven like Tennessee we know what Tennessee wants to do these teams are kind of like mirror images of

Each other in the sense that they want to run the ball first and then they’ll throw if they have to in situations where they have to uh but I think Tennessee is way more likely to be able to run the ball in this game because of the injuries in Houston’s front seven

And the fact that they’ve struggled to stop the run this year other way around hasn’t been the case but I I don’t love it I mean I love CJ strout he’s like one of my favorite players all around this will be a game without tank Dell we

Don’t know how Stout’s going to perform without his like downfield threat either we haven’t seen that yet there’s a lot of of um you know fluctuation that’s happened with that Houston team over the course of the past month I think it’s just too much of a price Xavier

Hutchinson has been shifted into the tank Dell role on the Texans cam but he hasn’t had CJ Str to throw him the ball so no one’s really noticed yet but I don’t know if he’s any good that’s the problem yeah no it changes everything like I hate to say it like you need

Stoud there their other options like here’s the deal like we talk about Ken like who do you guys think like I don’t really like what the Texans did like I’m I’m Davis Mills like at least he’s played football before and you guys are right like Keenum like the guy he had

Sure like one of the the problem with these backups at third Stringer still have glimpses but can you consistently do it and make good plays and usually no that’s why you’re a second or third string quarterback but Davis Mills to me is a guy that has started in the league

Sure he’s not mobile but he’s a hell of a lot smarter yep he makes better decisions he throws that’s the whole thing like don’t you agree Rob this this is this to me is just the mindset of of demo Ryan who’s a very defensive conservative coach because Davis Mills

Is better than Case Keenum but he can go to the veteran in Keenum and be like protect the ball you know play smart and and to me this is just a CO a coaching decision on a guy that honestly plays scared a lot of the times in Ryan he he

Was a great player but a lot of times these defensive players or coordinators that come over to head coaching roles they just want to trust their defense play they want to play like it’s 1985 that’s the way they want to play the game Vel is like that too in in some

Ways as well but that to me is why Keenum started because there’s no way he’s better than Davis SMS no way no way it’s funny because if you want a quarterback to protect the ball I would rather have Mills over Keenum in that circumstance like ke keenum’s got a lot

Of Nick Mullins has a lot of Keenum in him put it that way you’re so right that’s the one thing about Davis bills is if you look at a lot of his interceptions or tip balls or the receiver ran the wrong play the kid’s smart man like when he was at Stanford

He made good decisions like I’m not going to say he’s perfect there’s a reason he’s a backup quarterback but he’s also very consistently smarter and makes better decisions than these other guys he understands the offense I think it’s ridiculous personally but anyway what are you gonna do I do find it

Strange too that jacobe brassette is the backup for Washington that he actually seems like a better backup for a good team not a bad team because you can put him in and be just like all right jacobe you started enough games over the past

Few years if you need him to like have a sneak he still has a big arm it’s a lot like what flacko is doing with the Browns right now it’s like we we know your skill set and what you can do we can kind of design offensive plays

Around that skill set I feel like he can still do that with jacobe Bret even though he’s not all that good he’s better than a lot of these guys even on good teams that we’ve seen com in like if you were the Jags would you rather have Beth or jacobe brassette right now

Rob I’d rather have brasset yeah B I mean Bret’s better than like 10 starters in the yes he is that’s I’m talking about my backup quarterback argument Jobe brassette on the right team is C there’s a reason like he’s a good he’s he’s decent he’ll make a mistake but he

Also makes good throws he protects the ball like there’s a lot of things I like about jacobe brassette like some of these other guys that they’re putting in there just suck they can’t read coverages one thing about like brassette some of these quarterbacks they go behind and you just know the game is

Over y you’re like there’s just no hope that this guy’s ever GNA come back and Lead his team to a comeback like brassette you know I’ll pump the pump the breaks like he’s not a good starter but we seen him in this role he can do

Enough to win games he’s put in the right position I agree with Cam and we’ve seen it the last couple weeks with Washington he gets into the game and all like the the offense that looked incompetent for the entire game with Sam Howell just eating sack after sack and

Getting throwing the ball Under Pressure looks completely different when Brett is there so uh I like Brett I I’ve always thought I mean he could be a low-end starter in the league yes but he’s definitely I I mean I could go through the list I I would be surprised if

There’s a better backup it’s it’s basically him and muu I would guess as backups yep where’s Drew lock top five n maybe probably not like Drew Lock’s not good yeah it depends on who you consider backups like tanah Hill’s a great backup if he’s gonna be like a backup uh

Mariota is a solid backup J Drew Drew locks on like the hinei level like they’re you you don’t hate having them in the game like you would prefer to have the starter in yes I get I don’t know Gino Smith and him I think it’s basically a push nowadays I’d take Drew

Luck Gino Smith’s regressing hard it it is but but Gino was a backup for like 10 years until he became the starter last year and that leads me to my silver pick and I’m gonna do something that I don’t want to do take I’m taking Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers yep yeah I like

Mason Rudolph Rudolph the rednose reindeer on Christmas oh yeah hey Bengals did you enjoy that you got shredded and then Pickins had the game of his life here’s the thing as a Seahawk fan they were lucky to beat Philadelphia they’re pretty lucky to beat Tennessee I hate to say this I’m

Just this is about betting I’m gonna put Seattle in a super teaser I don’t want to cheer against my team I really like what they’ve done but this is not good this defensive line against that offensive line I know this team inside out uh prefer the game to be on the road

And get more points I think that’s when Seattle’s in a good spot now three and a half it’s too many points Pittsburgh Steelers are probably going to win this game I hope Seattle wins between one and three but guys this is about just making picks and I think the Pittsburgh

Steelers one of the best picks this week I will put them as my silver pick here’s the issue I have with Pittsburgh just they’ve been so bad over the past six weeks or so and their only two wins have come against the Bengals but when you

Look at the Bengals who are now 0 and5 in division the Bengals are 8-2 against teams that aren’t in the AFC North so maybe there’s just like weird Zack Taylor tendencies that these other teams know like I’m telling you though Seattle is a favorite oh I listen I I told you

Seattle suck before the year and you know I did I I was wrong cuz they’re eight and seven they’re pretty good but they’re flirting right with that wi total I thought they’d be a little bit worse and I I feel like they’ve they’ve won a few games that maybe they should

Have lost you’re right Pat they’re y for for the record I hate to say as a fan they’re always going to be my team they’re not very good the Seattle Seahawks are not a very good football team they’re very average to slightly below average football team their defense has regressed uh really not

Happy with the way Gino’s playing I think Kenneth Walker could be one of the best backs in the league but Pete Carroll all they do they’re so predictable run first down run second down third they don’t put their quarterbacks in good situ situations either because they’re coordinators in

His stubborn ways everybody knows what Seattle’s doing all the time and you can say what you want about Mike Tomlin they’ll be ready to play this game I uh I bet I only bet one game this week it was the under in this game in Pittsburgh Seattle and generally speaking the under

Tends to be more correlated with the underdog in the game Gino Smith for his entire life has struggled to beat man coverage Pittsburgh plays a very high rate of man coverage to Cam’s point it’s a very predictable offense you know last week should have been the week where

Seattle comes out and they line up four or five wide receiver every down against Tennessee because Tennessee can’t stop the pass and they they’re very good against the run and they just won’t do that both these coaches like to do the same thing they like to run the ball

Heavily they like to play field position they’ll on the fourth and two at Midfield or whatever and trust their defense so I think it’s going to be a slow bog of a game I don’t love Mason Rudolph he played well last week you got

To give him credit but a lot of that was yards after catch as well to Pickins and Seattle’s a good team in terms of tackling in their secondary so I think it’s going to be a low-scoring game and uh I think that’s more conducive to to

Cam’s bet than it is laying the points with Seattle I’m GNA take Denver minus three I’d probably wait on this to be perfectly honest with you because it probably goes I guess maybe there’s might be some buyback of people trying to Middle with the Broncos right now but

As you kind of pointed out Rob I don’t think that stms necessarily even a drop off from Russell Wilson at this point they can almost run exactly the same offense because Wilson’s kind of mobile and we’ve seen that in the past steam’s been pretty mobile even in like two

Starts last year he had like over 35 rushing yards in both of those starts maybe that’s the bad as the over remember I told you about the Jordan love under rushing last week yep yeah didn’t hit the over hit by a yard because they had him twice for a loss

And then again for a five yard rush on his we had two rushes in the game one was a sneak for a touchdown from the one yard line and then one was just completely broken play they had him twice and let him like spin around and

He just Dove for one extra yard and that was that props suck sometimes that’s that’s the pain of props sometimes but but you get a lot of elation as well with random props now and then so they they it all bets hit you in some way or another right there’s just like there’s

Times where where it can be that demoralizing one there could be times where you bet Patrick Mahomes under rushing yards in the Super Bowl he’s over by like 15 yards and then decides he’s gonna kneel for you know seven yards at a time and cashes his under

Like that’s bet you know it happens but it balances out over time uh the the top prop sniper play for the Thursday night football game I know we don’t talk about Thursday night football but sometimes I give this out is Trevor Simeon under 33 and a half passing

Attempts attempts attempt cuz the game’s going to be condensed probably not just that Sim might not finish the game there you go there’s the big one right there he might just get knocked out and you are allowed to bet unders I’ve heard this yes yes unders can be bet yes are

You allowed to ask a sports book for a refund on an under though or only overs oh I don’t know do I get like do I get my DJ hawson Money bet when him or or or or Addison when they Collide and both leave the game when we’re on Minnesota

Maybe we should we should write a scroll letter to the sports book how we got screwed with two of their best weapons okay thanks one thing I wanted to point out about Carolina uh and the plus seven in that game just to going back and looking at their past two opponents

Their past two games everything that’s going on Rob is Green Bay’s defense is like bottom three in the league over the past two months essentially and they were able to move the ball a little bit in the first half and they moved it a ton in the second half and the game

Against Atlanta like it was a torrential downpour it was going to be a close game and they were able to Stage a last minute drive but both those defenses are not good Jacksonville’s defense although it slipped a little bit is still quite good I don’t know that it is okay I

Honestly so so you know first of all Green Bay did have Jer Alexander back last week as well was the first time he was in the lineup several weeks their number one it didn’t help that like that to me is kind of like the turning point for the Carolina offense and he asked

Some of it was in garbage time like they were losing 30 to 16 but they that would those aren’t drives that Carolina makes earlier in the year like they just don’t do they couldn’t move the ball on anyone and if you go back and watch the Atlanta

Carolina game it was bad weather they didn’t score a touchdown in that game but they were moving the ball consistently as well so it’s two weeks in a row now where I think that they have had some success I’m just looking at my Jacksonville numbers here that I

Have up in front of me and I want to look at um their quality of competition so over the course of the last five weeks I have the Jags defense ranked 26th I have Green Bay 28th which is very comparable and Atlanta from a couple

Weeks ago much higher than that so I I I think it’s like a comparable defense the way the Jags have been playing over the course of the last month and a half here okay that makes sense nice yep see sure does you shot me down there so Carolina plus Seven’s the play

Then I I don’t know if it’s the play Let’s Sunday night it’s a play I’ll tell you that yeah like I you let’s just say this I’m with Rob it’s uh there won’t be any Jacksonville money coming out from me it’s Carolina or nothing I don’t know

Like I like it I’m kind of worried that it’s still on the seven but you know it is what it is and you know I like Carolina too bronze picks reminder to everyone to play in both DraftKings listeners leagues they’re down in the description right now the week 17 Sunday

Main slate is available as is the first listeners league for golf for the season for the Tournament of Champions which starts next Thursday and we’ll have a Full Slate of shows for all of that cam here up on bronze picks well guys I set it off the top and we’re going to go

With the trapo not going to make it gold but it’s going to make the minerals I’m going to go with the Saints and we talk about you know teams with stocks and it’s very important to take a team you know at their lowest point and look what’s happened with Carolina they’re

Starting to win and the Rams are at one of those teams now Pat and good call by you you bought the stock at a little really low price and that’s about as good as it’s going to be it might be sell time uh this game just feels like

The ultimate trap to me Tampa Bay feeling so good about themselves Baker Mayfield Evans everybody yeah it’s a real big party they ran into a Jacksonville team that was literally dead in the water the Saints still don’t like these guys it’s a divisional game I

Got to put my money where my mouth is I’m getting three I think the Saints are going to win this game outright so I will take them as my trapo special who’s going to be betting the Saints this week after you watch his team play but

They’ll get up for Tampa Bay and I think they’ll win this game so I’ll take three points with the New Orleans Saints rob you fell out of first place in the win totals draft for the first time in 12 weeks I I think this week and me and or

Jeff took the lead now me and you are tied because the Bucks and Rams have been winning games the the the Chargers pick what else is new really cost me taking them as my in the second round because if you look at all the second round picks from that draft everyone’s

Got like nine wins 10 wins 11 wins and I’m sitting on Chargers five who might not win another game this season so it’s an uphill battle for me going forwards I I love Jeff Jeff’s team from the beginning I think I said it on the show

That I think he would he should have been the favorite after the team that he drafted I I think he’s going to win overall but I mean who knows like week week 18 is going to make it really interesting here with like teams resting players this is going to be the

Opportunity for some real [ __ ] teams to pull out a last minute win and get us home so who do you have as a bronze pick because I’m mulling over a few I’m actually kind of interested in the Bengals plus seven me too I am a little bit as well I I’m definitely interested

In Denver I don’t know that I want to do duplicate I’ll talk out loud here and maybe we can do a group decision I kind of like Green Bay um I like the Vikings there I just think I just think the green based defense is too bad it is bad

Tough game but Vikings are so banged up Pat like that’s one team and they’re key guys too it’s not just like these are really good players like hawson they’re down I I I know that hawson and Addison are both going to be out but I would take Justin Jefferson over both those

Guys being back yeah oh yeah no Jefferson’s awesome it’s kind of dependent for me on which of the Green Bay receivers play um if they get Christian Watson back I I’ll probably bet them but I I don’t have to there’s too there’s a lot of uncertainty in that

Game altogether I I kind of like the Dolphins but I was hoping for a three and a half and not a three I like the Dolphins too I just don’t love it at three Tua undefeated against Lamar Jackson you know what I love the Dolphins and that

That’s one game I bet when it was four that was the first thing I hit more feeling good like if it’s if got a four that would have been my gold pick but that three it’s kind of and the NFL is rig crew needs the Dolphins to win to

Blow up this Lamar for MVP thing then no one will know who the MVP is know yeah but the NFL is Rigg crew is very quiet now because now it’s all bowl games or UNLV bowl games are rigged that’s all anybody’s talking about nowadays NFL is rigged I’m throwing this out here maybe

People are just bad at sports betting okay partly I I am the guy who comes on here every time and I’m like the NFL like the sports are rigged crew is a joke and I completely agree with you Pat generally speaking people just want to blame someone other than

Themselves for their betting losses that UNLV Kansas game they they stopped showing the replays in the game of the penalties because they were getting to be so outrageous like there was 200 yards in penalties against one team and they’re showing replays early in the game and no one can even figure out

Where the penalty is on the play that’s who I was but that would make sense though if I was producing that broadcast and the refs were a complete [ __ ] show I wouldn’t want to degrade my product by continuously showing the refs being wrong all the time too if it happens it

Happens and it’s it’s happening on the field but as a TV producer trying to put out a product I wouldn’t want to show it either fair enough however there pre before the game in the afternoon that game steamed from plus 13 to plus eight on no injury news every ball game has

Been like that Rob look at the UTSA Marshall game the same thing it was like from 11 and a half down eight to whatever let’s call this other game out the the rice game Pat I watched these football games yesterday and Rob and I’m not gonna say this but these bowl games

Are on a different level of corruption like it is absolutely sick watching these referees and the way they’re throwing Flags like people in the stands like couldn’t even believe it it was like a joke it wasn’t even like a real event it was like honestly it was like

WWE wrestling I’m like this team can’t get more screwed like it is just because these games are one-offs and I don’t know but I’m just I’m not going to say there is this result but either these guys are the most UNC incompetent losers in the world but let’s remember these

Referees I don’t know where the hell they come from I don’t know what’s going on all I know is this we’ve watched these games with four and five points of steam and they’ve been the biggest Bunches of steaming hot [ __ ] that I’ve ever seen I’ve never seen blll

Games refereed worse Rob would you not agree well I in particular how do how do we how do we analyze this this game in particular so there the the game before it was awful but the UNLV games for years have been talked about as like potentially fishy a lot of weird line

Moves before the game some crazy stuff tends to happen in these games so I’ve always dismissed it right it’s like ah you know whatever but when you when you start to see stuff like that yes you know it’s one thing for refs to have a bad game but this is like

99th percentile you’re blind type of game this isn’t a bad game it’s like you’re not even watching the game type of calls that to me coupled with the line move early in the day why isn’t anybody accountable how come this these things just get brought because the

Thing is it’s never gonna get better because well oh well that’s the final score like something has to be done then Tim donie got investigated oh oh there’s no there’s no bad corrupt referees he’s telling the whole [ __ ] league is that there’s guys in on this [ __ ] calll

Bal so don’t tell me this [ __ ] doesn’t exist when a guy went to jail for it you don’t think there’s in the NCAA B games that don’t don’t have [ __ ] money on these games if you think that you’re naive NFL’s a different level that’s where I I kind of call it because

There’s people are making a lot more money in the NFL generally speaking there’s way more visibility that’s just incompetence in the NFL right would you not say like just referees who can’t do their job you don’t think that referee who fell down and trip Lamar was in on us

I forgot about that poor guy man he’s just trying to get out of the way but you guys got to be a little Shifty so it was it was a good thing the most nibble it was a good thing you vamped for a little bit Rob because you were talking

About Green Bay I have breaking news about Green Bay and your guy Jer Alexander he is now suspended for one game detrimental conduct to the team for running out to the coin toss in overtime when he wasn’t supposed to be there cuz he’s from Charlotte unable like wow like this

Whole I’m actually read the press release right now as an organization we have an expectation that everyone puts the team first like the guy ran out for the coin toss and that’s not putting like we’ve gone I don’t even know what to say anymore it’s a very woke it’s a

Very woke culture they have I just think it’s just insane it’s just like that how does this make sense on any level he did nothing wrong well he wasn’t suppos he wasn’t supposed to be there well okay but it’s not like you like get a guy suspended

Like he a suable mistake cam when you have kids yeah sometimes you have to make an example yeah but but you’re disciplining them for things that are obviously bad when Pat says don’t eat the cookies kids next thing you know that the kids’s got cookies in his like teeth and they’re

All over the floor and the jars broken and stuff you’re like wellow you didn’t really listen to Daddy like you got to be nice for a while but I’m not down with this at all well maybe well maybe it’s this maybe it’s you talked about Jer Alexander coming back last week and

Proving to be a non-factor maybe he sucks now and they don’t want him out there well that’s we have to find out if there’s incentives in his contract this cannot be the whole story this cannot be the whole story because they’re in a playoff race right now like why the hell

Are they suspending their number one corner running out in the coin toss like this this is like some this maybe is not the level of the the Minnesota Vikings sex boat or anything like that but there’s probably somewhere in between here I wish we could bring back the SE

Boots there was more fun than the crap that we’re seeing now that those were the days those were the days with Ontario Smith and the sex boat yeah why not like now now it’s just like corruption on all levels like more vessels I mean maybe it wasn’t Ontario

Smith and the sex boat I think it was Ontario Smith and the Whizzinator oh yeah the Whizzinator great great product good stuff you could really use those in airports I I didn’t realize that Jer Alexander almost botched the coin TOS call too like he didn’t know what to

Pick oh like he pulled a Joe neth like drunk with the Denver Super Bowl he he tried he tried to take the opposite of what the Packers wanted exactly well see that that to me if I was this the entire organization I would be upset Furious even though it’s still a coin flip

Regardless that’s like not listening to team orders right that seems to be what it is like go out there and call tails and he says h no screw that Tails not coming up I’m calling heads no no no they called the right one but in terms of receiving and kicking he tried to

Pick the opposite of what they wanted wow wow because that it’s actually very confusing for a lot that’s why you actually do need the captains to go out there that that understand the situation because sometimes teams say like we want to kick we want to receive but you’re

Supposed to defer in some cases ra so your verbiage is very important it could cost you a possession in overtime so I’m going to take Cincinnati plus 7even as my bronze pick the Chiefs are reeling right now maybe they kick the [ __ ] out of the Bengals who knows but the Bengals

Have been very good out of division like I’ve mentioned 8-2 on the season and it looks like Jamar Chase might play play in this game too yeah I mean KC is something’s going on with that the Raiders think about the Raiders they’re hot man I mean their is

Their defense gonna score two touchdowns a game I don’t that’s the problem but that Baltimore Ravens game is just scream screaming Miami you’re getting the Ravens out a three you want to talk about like that might be more of a trapo than the Saints game like I sold

Dolphins plus three bronze pick I I I just I I know Miami has a lot of injuries I get it there’s some like we’re not sure on jayen waddle yet whether it’s high ankle or low ankle they have the offens it’s high ankle they just came out and said that

Actually confirmed now yeah oh that’s rough so he’s not playing worry about it why line Rob stick to stick to your inner your inner voice you could have made three and a half four people are take going to the window betting Baltimore like they’re undefeated they these guys aren’t Stooges there’s a

Reason it’s a flat three Baltimore does seem to only win against NFC teams or they’re very dominant against the NFC situation Miami’s a good football team like Baltimore feeling good about themselves after that win it’s just the situation screams Miami and the line screams Miami I misspoke about that high

Ankle thing it was just a report that McDaniel said it looks like a high ankle it’s not sold again sold again false report for a lesser price yep trying to trick us no no no no no no oh no no no 38 38 minutes ago Dolphins coach Mike

McDaniel says that it is a high ankle sprain and not quote overly serious for jayen waddle he’s not ruling Wadd out yet you would fit right in as a as a beat writer for an NFL team Pat with the amount of misinformation you’re spreading right now on this show

Perfect stuff doesn’t usually break during the show on a Wednesday like this this usually happens on a Tuesday yeah and show showy T’s on a [ __ ] plane to Toronto [ __ ] off bunch of [ __ ] reports do your job I can’t believe the j i could be an MLB Insider too the J

Will sign nobody cam Stewart MLB Insider I should be in the Jay’s front office because I would have got Otani because I would have given him a billion dollars Y and it would have been worth it for the team think about all yeah with the merchandise and the Japanese Market it’s

Actually a steel whatever they nobody listens Pat don’t worry about it it’s actually a steel it is a steal I think it would be they would make money off paying him a billion dollars over that contract yep uh it’s Possible’s right I know that sounds insane break it

Down dude think about what the significance of a whole other Market with money and all the other stuff [ __ ] the guy’s got a Bobby Bonia contract goal in Piza it’s it’s a joke like it’s amazing like I can’t believe these other teams like the Dodgers just they know

They obviously know what they’re doing and everybody else is sitting on their ass what a joke uh I I got I got one more bit of breaking news this one is a text from from cust uh he oh boy so where we live I heard his argument with

Like taking water up to his place too and stuff I just like oh God like talking about hearts and stuff like Anyway Pat you you used to travel in the city yeah I never had I mean my wife had the one of those carts cuz the the

Grocery store well we didn’t have a car so the grocery store used to be like a mile from our condo so she didn’t want to have to carry like four bags me know I did cuz I’m a man I wasn’t 40 at the time so I got to be honest with if

You’re buying those bag doily like you know what I mean that’s like if you’re under 60 years old and you got one of those like it’s just it’s it’s basically giving up you’ve given up I I would tend to agree and my my the when cuss told us

Me and my friends agreed the only person who’s agreed with him is Jeff well that doesn’t but there’s so many Pat here Point there’s so many other devices that don’t look stupid that you can do the exact same thing with as you brought up but anyway this

Is a picture I’m not going to give people grocery tips or you know how to avoid back injury while carrying cases of water well take Miami Tim told us he text us that his day at the mall has been ruined because he was at a sports store he was trying

To buy a new hat for the jet sideline hat and he was in the store and a kid he said a kid said to his father quote dad I want a dolphins hat they’re great he got so rattled he had to walk out and he didn’t buy the hat and then he

Complained that it took him so long to Park he’s in like a tizzy right now in the parking lot trying to calm down I can’t blame him on that I get lose I get lost in parking lots and parking garages no no he’s in his car just he’s not not

Lost he’s just upset in his car no one gets lost in parking garages anymore they all have signs that points which ways to go I I mean had a panic attack in one I lost take a picture of what the closest identifi I did that too but every know

Pat I thought that I actually do that and I still I still [ __ ] it up like it scary then you need to get your around and around I got an Apple Watch I synced it up with my car and it just gives me GPS to my car now for parking lots

That’s too advanced for me you can probably bet from this too you don’t even need a computer yeah computer thing’s true like you can’t bet from a computer anyways you can’t yeah apparently not I’ve placed three bets during this show from my computer uh people in the chat can you reinforce

This with me you’re not you’re don’t look to the chat to help you in this because you’re I’m just telling you I have authenticator I have these things it still doesn’t work I work with a guy who can’t who who’s been Rob I don’t know what it is about the site you can’t

Do it I’ve tried everything I’ve tried everything like it’s not like I I I can figure out how to do Zoom calls and everything I don’t know how you got around it I can’t if you wanted to place a$ thousand BET right now I bet I could

Do it within 15 minutes of being okay I’ll carry your pigeon the money over to you instead okay I I I see anyway let’s not get get into this right now I don’t it just doesn’t work for me take Miami and be happy did all right let’s let’s

Let’s we won the teaser last week we’re up to six and eight on the 6.3 team Sixpoint teasers so let’s try to get another one in here I will boost up Cincinnati to plus 13 than okay Rob you ready to go or how about the Dolphins plus 10 I plus nine

Well it’s Rob Rob are you gonna take the Panthers up to plus 13 I’m I’m not um good enough for seven not good enough for 13 huh well there’s a lot how about we invest our picks Pittsburgh plus nine and a half and uh one of your other picks and

Then we’re so you want to you want to do Pittsburgh plus nine and a half game yes I do yeah I Seattle can’t win by 10 points right my team so it’s we can’t use the Thursday game Thursday game’s off limits we’re saying correct we can’t tease the Browns

Down that’s a good one you don’t want you don’t want to tease the Jets up the Jets might win that game they might lose about Dallas to a pick him on Saturday sure let’s let’s do that if if you’re if you like that cam I’ll do

Dallas to a pick them do you think that Dallas Cowboys win the game I do I think they’re going to me too they’re going I think they might cover as well but I’d like to have them at a pick yeah I don’t I don’t love the laying the six no but

They’ll win the game by like three or four at worst right don’t you think anyway the Cowboys are gonna win the game I these guys in the in Detroit they’ve been sipping champag all week long celebrating the division yep you know how this works it’s that or the

That or one of our other picks Rob but I think Dallas will win so we just need them to win the game yeah I know I I I I don’t mind that I don’t mind it cool yeah your bronze as I told you on the show last week came when you took San

Francisco minus five as your made mistake that it was it was pooched the moment I told you that cuss teas through zero on that game for San Francisco I just I I laugh that stuff off and then I was watching the game and I was too late

And I was thinking about it that was the first thing that popped in my head is Pat actually warned me about this and I got even angrier I’m like I can’t believe this this shit’s real like it actually exists it’s true so since it’s true Since Aaron Rogers went down this

Year cus has adopted teams to root for and back throughout the course of the season so when the Niners were undefeated he backed them and he got on the what he called the 49ers bandwagon and he did that for three weeks they were 0 and three in the weeks that he

Was on their bandwagon he jumped offal he jumped off their bandwagon and got on the Atlanta bandwagon I think they were one and six well he was on their bandwagon he jumped off last week Atlanta wins he jumped back on San Francisco’s bandwagon now they’re 0 and one again unbel that

Is we not profiting more off of this guy honestly like seriously Pat like we have to get this stuff out every week and we do I do an entire show about this people do this is much stronger than the themes let’s call it out for what it is C theme

Is the best theme of all time the anti- cust theme you’re right do we have a theme for this week cam I don’t know what are giants mythical creatures human beings uh Pittsburgh or workers Saints no nothing’s really kind of meshing I’ll figure it out there’s a

Lot of cat on cat action that Panthers are playing the Jaguars so that’s n it seems like we have a [ __ ] teams theme no you you cam cam has the human theme Giants Steelers and Saints yeah it is it’s a human week The Human Fund didn’t I have that last week

And it didn’t work yeah well now you got to go back were Panic for gold yeah called the Martingale strategy cam doesn’t work one week you double it next week don’t do that people play respons play responsibly pleas don’t don’t chase when you get thumb but yeah I do that’s

Seems to be the logical thing to do all right that will do it on the pat Mayo experience you can watch Rob on the forward progress YouTube channel and find him at Rob pazola and atth hammer. betet cam Stewart live on Twitter along sportsg grid.com to hear and watch more

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  2. Also, CamS, it's called a VPN, and it's called putting, say, $6-$67 dollars in a 'thanks card' in an envelope without a return address and sending it to a given VPN's office, say, Mullvad's in Sweden, after starting an account to fill it up for a month or a year.

  3. 6:50 in, YES!!! THANKS RobP! TOTAL PHANTOM CALL ON MP IN THAT GAME! Refs are bought-and-paid-for, even DeanBlandino wouldn't cover for them, like he normally does, and that just had to be the No Fun League wanting the 'over' to hit before halftime; someone high-up had that on a parlay, IMHO. Dude didn't even TOUCH the Miami quarterback's helmet, it was a textbook tackle in a bang-bang play where, if anything, two Dallas defenders fell on each other in the process. Penalty muh butt! That was a GIFT for a touchdown that, if it had been a field goal or nothing, changed the whole game in favor of Miami! There should be some sort of accountability court or process or asterisk-system here for calls that change the outcome of a game or fight. Look at martial arts! In the cage, when a referee touches a fighter and waves the fight off, when there was never a tap-out or the fighter didn't go unconscious and the fight ends prematurely, it is overturned and becomes a 'push' on parlays and bettors for both teams are still safe! Why can't this process make its way to ballgames?

  4. 17:00 in, RTann was a QB for TA&M and lost their last Big 12 game vs. UT to ColtMcCoy's little brother CaseMcCoy at A&M, it was on Thanksgiving, IIRC. Was epic. RTann was a serviceable QB, but this user never really thought he was an 'elite' QB and meandered with mediocre-at-best success in Miami, but kept running into New England with only a couple wins or close-losses against them; going to TEN was the best move he made in his career as a QB, where he had more success and even knocked TB out of NE in his final game there before going to TB, FL.

    It's just TEN and Miami were never 'complete' teams and now he's closer to NFL-retirement than anything else, but if he gets a good spot-start against a choice opponent, and has a fire under his rear, RTann is gonna ball-out and this bettor will have shares of DEN over LAC this week and TEN over HOU this week, perhaps 50/50 across the board.

  5. Best show in town; love to Mayo, Cam, and Rob.
    Love to see next year 10 game parleys every week; I bet 1 will hit and I’d love to see the books have to pay out 1000+ bets.

  6. I can't use bet365 on the iMac. The authenticator you install doesn't work. The authenticator QR app on your phone makes the casino work. I have resigned myself to mobile betting, too.

  7. Pizzola, it would be much appreciated if at some point on "Circles Off" we were able to get a breakdown of Mazi and goat_vic! Thanks, love the shows

  8. Cam has a point.. I've never been able to bet on computer.. even using the plug-in over and over.. it never works

  9. U cannot bet from your LAPTOP in MASS. The DK customer service said its not allowed. Im not sure if its a state thing or what. I hate it I thought I was going to b able to use laptop when we got the sportsbook but nope so the RAGIN RED HEAD is correct. I think ONLY APPLE devices allows it, I heard, not sure if true.

  10. Sigh I really wish Carolina didn't actually have a chance of winning this week; I'm nearly out of survivor picks and Jacksonville was looking like the only slam dunk I had left for this week a few weeks ago.

  11. I will back cam up on the 365 issues. I have the geolocator downloaded and I STILL can't place bets on my computer. Pinnacle and other sites work though. But 365 is a pain in the ass.

  12. I used to not be able to get the geo location to work for any sportsbooks either. None of the support at any of the books could help. Eventually I found that I had to change something in my DNS settings. I feel Cam's pain as it is frustrating when the location check continually fails.

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