The Herd | Colin and Jason DEBATE DeVonta Smith unhappy with Eagles beat Giants on Chrismas day

The Herd | Colin and Jason DEBATE DeVonta Smith unhappy with Eagles beat Giants on Chrismas day

A good quarterback is devoured a great quarterback is not so that’s the difference that’s what a good quarterback looks like when you’re facing the best defense in the league you fall behind you make a couple picks they need you to go hey put us on your shoulders Josh Allen loses games but

Josh Allen is Superman losing games there’s a Kryptonite sometimes to him but I when I watch Brock pie I’m like yeah this is this is kind of what it can look like when things don’t go his way so 15 games he’s been very good in most of them uh wasn’t outstanding in

Cleveland did have a final drive that set him up for the game winner um I just I I do wonder if it’s an overreaction island game everybody in their mom watching Christmas night and pry vomits all over himself are we doing a are we going a little too much this way off of

One game well no because I believe my context for all of prie was he’s a good quarterback I’ve seen kurk cousins have games like this and Dak have games like this they’re all good quarterbacks but when you start putting guys in the MVP race now you’re seeing their they’re

Great players MVP in the NBA it’s like yic you’re like joic against Anthony Davis a great player Hall of Famer Anthony Davis disappears that’s what an MVP looks like MVP is LeBron where you put him against Durant and you’re like Durant disappears like if we’re going to

We going to talk like Heisman MVP come on now it can’t be all about Coach system weapons it’s got to be the guy like I watched Lamar last night I’m like there’s the NFC is one and 20 against him that’s fair and by the way when’s the last time Baltimore was ever healthy

Ever well I mean the only thing if you want to play the game thing Lamar’s had three meltdowns in the fourth quarter this year three losses earlier this year you mean Cleveland Pittsburgh uh Indianapolis remember the Pittsburgh one when he had two touchdowns Dropped In

The End Zone he did I also remember the interception in the like you want to play the one game thing I get it I’m just saying I’ll fin I’ll wrap up can you win a brock can you win a Super Bowl this year with Brock pie I watched last night I don’t think

So okay all right total disagreement obviously all right for let’s move on how about the Eagles yesterday coward man they they killed me they dominate the Giants left and right and then somehow don’t cover the spread cuz Jaylen Herz with as bad of a pick six as I’ve seen Eagles can’t guard Darius

Slayton over the top I mean they doubled up the Giants in first downs five trips to the Red Zone the Giants had just won Colin I I just don’t get it devont chimed in on the state of the offense after 500 yards for Philly 11 wins we’re not playing good

Football as an offense we’re not where we want to be so I mean I’m I’m not satisfied yeah we got live wins I’m not happy it needs to be better for what I want to do what everybody else in here wants to do where we want to be we’re

Nowhere near that so no I’m not happy yeah Devonte is really good I love this team so much they’re going to finish 13 and four a massive drop off from last Year’s 14 and three that says more about the the garbage competition they’re playing I mean the Giants are total trash let’s be

Real here though this is not remotely the same Eagles team that went to the Super Bowl last are you sure I mean Colin what what do you mean my of course 13 and four if they beat the Giants in Arizon just judge the ones wins and losses judge the process and they looked

Awful despite 500 yards of offense and 28 first downs and blah blah blah first of all I didn’t think they looked awful Tyrod Taylor’s probably the best backup in the league the Giants actually if you watch the Giants play the Giants went on a little winning streak giant Giants

Aren’t the Jets they can move the ball they’ve got a great left tackle they’ve got a star back they’ve got an offensive coach who just squeezes every little last bit of juice like I don’t think the Giants they’re not good but I but I think they have the right components the

Jets don’t have a left tackle or an offensive coach that alone makes me like the Giants more than the Jets no I think the Jets have way more t i it’s weird how we saw both former Super Bowl teams yesterday Island games they were kind of unw eagles were

Kind of unwatchable yesterday opening kickoff of the second half two guys run into each other what is that it’s listen Colin I was stunned I I can’t believe how bad they looked you’re you’re giving them a pass that’s fine I love this Philadelphia team okay with the world

Everybody’s bailing on a team that’s going to finish 13 and four do you know they can still get the number one seed they can I Brunell and Tony Romo and CT Warner undrafted by and large the scouts get it right most of your star quarterbacks in league history are first round guys most

Of your great Edge rushers are first round guys most of your great left tackles are first round guys Justin Jefferson first round guy Calvin Johnson Randy Moss uh Jamar chase the scouts know what they’re doing Brock pry last guy taken in a draft but with the ners

It’s always kind of the same we have a brilliant coach we have an excellent roster we have weapons everywhere and you’re left sort of asking is Jimmy Garoppolo or Brock prie good good enough and by the way this is a lot of Kyle Shanahan’s career is that you feel like

Matt Ryan in Atlanta or Matt sha in Houston and Brian Hoyer in Cleveland and Brock pie and Jimmy Garoppolo you’re left asking is it the coach or is it the quarterback and so far it’s always the coach with any other coach offensively you know immediately the limitations

With a Matt sha we saw it or a Brian Hoyer we’ve seen it or garoo now in Vegas or Brock pie but Kyle Shanahan’s a lot like that Flex tape commercial where they put that big strong tape on a boat and it works momentarily but if you got too much Flex

Tape on a boat maybe you need another boat and it’s not about the tape and that’s my takeaway Brock pie win trailing in the second half this year has a 65 passer rating two touchdowns and five picks garoo Brock pie they win a lot often convincingly it’s like just a perfect Symphony but

What happens when things go sideways and you play a good defense and you’re trailing you’re left with a lot of nothing Matt Stafford with the Rams is elevating everybody around him on every drive to me it feels like Brock pie is elevated by everybody around him Shanahan KD Debo IU Christian mcaffrey

Flex tape works momentarily but if you have to use Flex tape on your boat it’s time to get a new boat that tape can’t be the answer and I feel like Shanahan is that Flex tape he is the thing that makes everybody look way better than it is and we would know

Instantly with any other coach yeah that that guy doesn’t work or that guy doesn’t work or yeah that that’s not going to work but we have a history in this league with brilliant offensive coaches taking average good slightly below average backup quarterbacks and winning games and often convincing ly I

Mean for a for a few hours Garder muu looked like he was going to win a division like what are we doing here we know that’s not true we know this is not an MVP Talent we know he’s not the most talented person or the fourth on San

Francisco’s offense and here was Brock pie after it’s easy to you know be riding the high and thinking you’re the man um when things are going well winning games and all that kind of stuff and you don’t really see you know a whole lot of adversity um in some games and whatnot

And um you know this is the reality of the NFL I have to look myself in the mirror and ask myself why or how that happened and why I made those decisions and so um our team came ready to play and um you know for me to make some

Decisions like that um it pains me you know and it’s not fair to these guys so I have to realize that and understand that and um I have to get better for my team Cleveland really good defense Baltimore really good defense you’re trailing there’s drops you need a guy to save

You Brock p is not a guy that can save you