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Guys are going to be shocked I kept seeing comments the last couple days does Boer have hair I did not wear a hat today I have hair and at the same time I’m growing the mullet out baby so things are going the new best hair at Woodward Sports I’ll tell you what well

It’s taking a little too far the best hair it will be the best by the time my self proclaimed best hair by the time this this is all done this will be the best hair at wward sports I will guarantee you that remember I do not

Lose my name is Boer though as always Matt Brer Detroit Lions speat reporter say that and not give anyone a chance to rebuttle kg at the real kg what up feel today kg oh yeah you know it let’s go you feeling good oh yeah you were you

Were up early today you know I’m I’m a grinder man but yeah I just I’m getting over the sickness still but I’m almost 100% yeah hey yesterday when I got like during the show yesterday behind the scenes a little bit if you guys didn’t notice and listen to my voice yesterday

I like my throat it was like this close of of being gone for the week and and so today if you guys are like if I if I mess up a little bit voice is that close but we’re we’re going we’re going Nick how we feeling today and over there in

The sound booth in the night time you know we got the wings going it was national Signing Day for college I know we have a special guest coming up at 9:00 to preview some college football playoff stuff it’s going to be an electric show here on the night time

What word nights baby we do we’ve got a special guest 900 p.m. we’ve got Anthony broom um you guys may have seen him on Woodward Sports before I know he’s been on the morning show a couple times um in the past but Anthony broom will be joining us I believe it was Wolverine

The wolverine.com on three um and and today if you guys didn’t know there’s a lot of Jim Harbo news whether it’s violations or him going to the NFL obviously the college football playoff in a few weeks and as well as there has been um national Signing Day today so

We’ll get a look inside of everything that’s going on with that it’s a big day for mug not necessarily Hug Day big news all around but there’s some news that circulated out of an arbor in the last couple hours so it’ll be it’ll be interesting to hear what Anthony broom

Has to say about the um notice of uh what is it the NOA the notice of shoot I’m blanking on that word but basically the NCAA had their findings for the initial the the the burger gate stuff that we’ll talk in more detail about I’m

I’m excited too to hear some stuff cuz I want to know um some things I want to ask him Conor stallion’s that situation notice of allegation no you’re good I want I want to talk to him a little bit about um where that’s going to be at the

End the offseason and obviously I want to kind of look inside of how he’s feeling for the college football playoffs with Bama um in the Woodward Sports Chat Shane Daniel shout out longtime listener said the Boer path to looking like Theo Von fun fact at Woodward Sports in the back a lot of

People say uh Theo the way I act I guess the way in the back I talk and kind of go about my daily life life uh people say theovon is my older brother and I have some Shane Gillis in me um so I’ve got a uh around here I’m known as like a

Mixture of theovon and Shane gills just two of the hottest comedians on planet Earth right now it’s not me I don’t give these I don’t give my myself names out I just when I walk on I’m just Boer and when they’re like hey like you remind me

Of a young theovon okay you you you remind me as Shane Gillis okay I like it I’ll take both man maybe I should get into some standup I’ve talked about it before are you a b ker fan B’s I watched I went to the movies actually fun fact

Went to the movies all by myself and watched the B ker movie The Russian yes or uh um the machine the machine the machine we were doing that I don’t know if you guys remember at the beginning of the lion season where I was coming on

Air and I was every time I was on air I was like I’m the machine the original Stand Up of that hilarious yeah great those guys Canon hilarious hilarious hey I’ll take the oan though and I’ll take Shane gills who the funniest guys in the world right now um

Brother how are you feeling you were in Allen Park today I know we’re going get into that about 8:15 was so great it was so great spent some time with cidd Deuce he he’s almost cidd Deuce yeah that’s the question I had cuz he’s called himself CJ again and I’ve heard him call

Himself like every like and I hear people call him CJ all the all the paperwork has been submitted he said it’ll be some it’ll be accepted sometime next year like it might be a six-month process he just says call him Deuce he says call me deuce when I post on

Socials I I still put CJ Garner Johnson that’s fine I do that until we get the official I don’t want to I got it I’m up here you want to see I’m it says call me deuce no that’s no I I I trust I trust you all right I’m just when we do

Socials and stuff I’m going to go CJ until and and then he might he might hit me up and say hey Boer call me deuce and and once he does that once he’s like hey Boer I will not stand in the way of an interaction between you two it would

It’s epic that that would be an alltime interaction I don’t know what I would do but we’re going to talk more about him but he came back he is so focused and locked into finishing the season strong there’s an energy in Allen Park that haven’t felt in a while despite this

Successful season you know since week two he’s been out so the last couple weeks have been a little rough but but this season there’s been a lot of good times down in Allen Park it’s back like that energy is back and it’s not like a confident or it’s not like an arrogant

We’re we’re we’re 10 and four energy it’s a this job hasn’t like like we’re just getting started here we got we got work to do these next couple weeks yeah I’m excited at :15 we’re going to talk about that we’re going to I have I clipped some videos

And I think some of these videos they they’re pretty good and and and I know some are short some are long but like there are some very interesting things that CJ uh talked about today um 8:30 we’re going to get into some jir Gibbs stuff there was a lot of things that

Happened with jir Gibbs um Lewis rck talked about him Hank fry today um talked about him um there was a lot of different there’s some stats at 8:45 Jeff put a tweet out today that I want to talk about as well I know they talked

About it on the morning show I want to dig deep into that as well a little bit is this Jeff tweet 9:00 we’ll have Anthony bruman 9:15 I brought another question for the boys I want to go around the room with this question I brought another question for you fellas

And I want you guys to answer it 9:30 we’re going to take some callers um and then 950 We’re going to get into mailbag um mailbag quickly too I do want to ask you this I don’t think this is a dead situation but nadamakin Su visited the

Dolphins today didn’t anyone see that I did I did they said once he left I I don’t know if this is a negative for him but once he left the visit it a lot of reports started coming out that there was no like contract like there was no like immediate contract talks or

Anything so I don’t know what the situation is with him now and I know that’s something a lot of people in Detroit really wanted if he leaves Miami and there there was no offer does that make you feel a little bit better in Detroit being like okay maybe he’s not

At that level right now to where Dolph maybe and maybe he is and maybe they just they’re like hey let’s talk about it next week yeah I I don’t know I it I think it may be more to to them just not wanting to sign him versus versus it

Being a talent fit or whatever I mean I’m trying to think that the two people that know n and Sue or the two parties that know uh sue the best uh are Dan Campbell and the Miami Dolphins who are his his he actually may have played a

Year after Dan Campbell but uh they know what he’s like in a locker room um in a playoff race as a competitor they know what they’re going to get on a Domin Su which is probably different than what we know or expect or think or could speculate on so whatever reason it is

You would think if someone really wanted him at this point in the season you wouldn’t let him leave the leave the building without a contract in the chat Tyler chevet said I don’t think Sue is coming back unless it’s the Ravens or 49ers yeah and that’s the thing I’m not

Saying he’s going to come back to Detroit or anything it’s just more so is since the I remember when he did it and we signed uh what’s his name in the middle um who was it who Am who I’m blanking onu once we signed him everyone was like

Why didn’t you guys get Sue I think maybe that gives you a little bit of a step back maybe it’s like hey maybe he wasn’t like ready like we all thought he was Nick what you have here yeah I mean it’s week 16 so like what is he

Expecting you know is he going in there for a big contract already just to play a few games is that why he didn’t do it is he looking to show up and practice once or twice a week I don’t know what su’s problem is but if Miami’s not

Taking him I got a tough uh tough idea that he’s probably getting a spot anywhere um I don’t think so yeah I I don’t I don’t see him I mean maybe he he might get somewhere like the eagle or like how Tyler said in there maybe the

Ravens just to get a little depth if they need it um but I just don’t see him in coming to Detroit I think that’s kind of a what is the what’s the saying like a beating a dead bird hard pass is that the saying yeah beating a dead de

Beating a dead horse that’s what it I don’t know why I thought of a bird maybe the Eagles and the Ravens that was why oh yeah see that’s that’s my theovon coming out me man we don’t mess with dolphins though those ever since AER a pet detective just leave those

One of my favorites um man that’s a great movie shout that’s my Halloween costume several years um all right next thing here to before we get going and get into the break I have two more things first thing did you guys see Jerry Rice’s top top five wide receivers

I did he had the man s um kg if you want to throw it up I put the graphic in there y I got you one second they had he obviously he put himself number one which I’m glad yeah by the way well when he got asked it they he said don’t put

Him like he was like don’t put yourself in it I think it was Fred Warner like don’t put yourself in it but I want to see your top five guess what we had in it though and this seems like every top five I ever see with wide receivers

Kelvin Johnson is in everyone’s top five never seen the top five without Kelvin Johnson I think this validates it the most for me like see Jerry Rice cuz we’ve seen in really reputable and you can throw that up whenever you want kg really reputable wi receivers football

Players um talk about Kelvin Johnson as one of the best in the top five but now to see Jerry Rice who’s widely regarded as the number one I love it I want to throw it out there too I went back and watched the video when he did it as well

They put this graphic out and another graphic they put out to head Kelvin at number two when he said the list he just said names he didn’t say this is like an order he just listed names and he started with Tio Randy um Carter and then Kelvin Johnson so like now what do

You think about number four on this list that’s that’s Chris Carter yeah I don’t I don’t I don’t know I don’t know who I think is I believe he’s underrated in terms of just he his his history as a wide receiver in the NFL his he was one of the best ever I

Don’t know if he’s top five though like I think he gets glossed over when people talk about some of the best of all time but his hand like when he and Randy Johnson Randy John when he and Randy Moss were together in Minnesota it it

Was that was like the first that was the most electrifying one two punch that I remember seeing growing up you had the Deep threat with rainy Moss Randy Moss could do everything but Chris Carter he was that Brandon iuk he was that Chris route Runner he had hands like freaking

I’m going out St Brown like he caught everything J out real Qui I’m getting absolutely shredded in the chat right now for my hair Ardo said Boer put your hat back on Orie 3 U ofm I don’t know how to pronounce that he said Boer stole his

Sister’s hair blow dryer it’s orner U ofm dad or yeah uh Jay cruzen boers Bruno the kid hair I mean there people are just going at me Johnny Bravo from Hilt hey I appreciate it you know what I had I I like I don’t know what to do

With my hair all I do is I just wake up and I take out of the shower and just and like it just can you make the noise one more time and it just everything’s going to be fine it goes to the side it goes up I

Like my hair going up I’m growing a mullet for you guys and you guys are going at my hair talking about Johnny Bravo and I’m doing a mullet for the people come on what are we doing here I’m going have to shave the mullet now now if there’s ever the Stafford debate

You can throw Calvin in in you can throw this list in his evidence yeah I the Jerry Rice coming out and saying Kelvin I think like you said it may it puts a close like an end to it but like when you do see these top five lists they

Rotate so much so much and the only people who are really in it every time is like Jerry Rice and Kelvin Johnson and those are the two guys no matter what are in it Randy I’ve seen him list I think without Rand like I’ve seen list without certain guys and it’s always no

You’re good it’s just always Kelvin it’s always Jerry Rice and those are the two guys that’s in every top five list yes so I think it’s solidified now solidified big simy says Bo you’re grow a mullet for us who who asked you for that because it wasn’t me hey we did a

CH we did a poll a couple weeks ago and it was like 90 to 95 to five for me to get a mullet and and when the pull hat like I do it a man at the people man come on I like it and you are going to

Look like steo Von with a little bit of mullet action that’s fair maybe we’ll get a picture together one need to be a little more self-deprecating I will a little more dog like like this real quick too last thing I want to uh and and kg I don’t know if you have them

Ready but the uh the standings Graphics let me see if I put him in there today I might have put him in yesterday and I don’t know how difficult that would be grab them either way yeah so Pete prisco and Stephen A Smith they both had them

There’s there’s one thing with Pete that I want to talk about um that kind of bothered me a little bit and then Stephen A I don’t know if you guys remember when Stephen a kind of went off on like he had the lions in his top five

A or he had them at number one a couple like a month ago and then right after he just went on rant about how big frauds the Detroit Lions are dropping the f word word so much and he was just going at the Lions well guess what this week

Stephen A Smith redid his top five and guess what the Lions back in it they aren’t just five they’re not four they’re in his top three Stephen A Smith put the Lions Back in the top three so it’s like you you can see kind of a little

Bit how we switch up and switches up and how kind of on his end a lot of it might be a little bit for the clicks for the FTC for before the clicks man yeah a lot of it might be before the clicks um yes

Nick yep Nick yeah I just want to give a and there it is up there on the board as well you guys can see it up on the T the TV the Detroit Lines they’re third number three number three and and he was calling them frauds a couple weeks ago

Thank you Stephen A that’s what we talked about last night like like that and he did he put bills in there how do you feel about that shout out bills are there we go but it’s at 3456 we talked about last night everyone’s got a little bit little different order

Putting the Detroit Lions there I’m okay with it Nick what we going with there over there yeah I know we have a lot of hyp positive Lions talk that we’re going to be getting to but one thing we do have to mention is the Red Wings are spiraling right now currently down one

Nothing against the Jets since Patrick Kane’s debut it’s not going well he’s currently minus 7 in points or is it time to put the wings Nick on the do not talk list until they turn this B that’s ironic that’s ironic Nick Creed break you’re going to get a Creed

Break or you’re going to get a 30 second uh put in the Box mute your mute your mic mute your mic during the commercial what do we got to do to turn mute that mic this is a massive game got to win it tonight how about this the wings are

Down one zero in the first period and they’re on a whole spiral down Nick let these boys go out there and play a little bit man hey they’ve lost three straight but okay well are we going to put them on the do not talk list when

They lose 24 straight okay W loud noises let’s go WS your seconds you’re in the Penalty Box that box that glass box you’re in Penalty Box you’re in it all right let me tell you guys about lady James when we come back we’re going to talk um about CJ Garner Johnson CD Duce

We’re going to speak about him a little bit we do have an injury report from today couple guys surprising guys on the injury report actually today that I was a little shocked to see and I will have a question for you to see if you you can

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Yet hit that like button for us we’re going to keep this thing rolling here we’re going to get you guys want to talk about first thing we’re open up with from the practice today a lot of different names on it um and kg did you throw it in there brother yeah whenever

You want to throw it up just throw it up whenever and I’ll just read it here off my um so you see Jerry Jacobs no practice today hamstring injury Brock Wright no practice hip um this is where things get a little to me as you get into these limited practice questionable

Derek Barnes shoulder we did see him get hurt in the game um and I think I remember him coming out so that was a shoulder Jason Kenda back at practice today um from the IR um with that knee injury CJ Gardner Johnson the man we’ve

Been waiting to see back on the field he was back on the field today as well Levi on zarque he was limited practice though uh today with the knee injury in this last one here I’m not Frank we know which Frank Frank’s on there just

Because of that toe um but he was good to go but pan this is my question to you brother when you see a guy like pan hop up on that practice or on that injury report worry level I know it’s limited and I know Fin and I saw him and he was happy

He was smiling he was just hanging out with his te in point woods ien none of this has been confirmed but what I believe in this injury list especially a lot of The Limited I think this is week 16 of an NFL season and the fact that they’re limited and not fully

Out this is these are just football injuries maybe a little bit a little bit more concerning than just like nagging soreness but I think it’s just uh people are going to be dealing with things Penny Su he’s been he’s been grinding All Season he’s been hit hard I I I I

Think these are just lingering the fact that Derek Barnes it wasn’t out completely when he hurt his shoulder in that game and he actually came back into the game to play I believe I thought he had dislocated his shoulder or done something I thought he was going to be

Out for a bit uh I I don’t think anything anything serious happened to Penny’s uh what was it his shoulder shoulder yeah so um I’m I’m honestly I’m I’m not worried the the the question is and who was completely out why why can’t I uh remember this this was okay so

Jarry Jacobs was out with the hamstring and Brock Wright that’s right um Brock W he’s a really solid backup tight end and he’s involved in their offense a lot so I think that’s something to keep an eye on obviously he’s not one of the main

Players he’s not Sam pora but he has a role in this offense um kind of think of like a third and fourth wide re like he’s important to how everything goes and you know Jared golf likes to find him in key moments uh and then we just talking The Limited they’ll be

Interesting to see what they do with Jason cabinda uh you know we got Malcolm Rodriguez who’s been playing linebacker he’s been playing fullback special teams do they bring in to back he he’s better in pass protection than Malcolm Rodriguez is uh but he also isn’t as

Good as a linebacker like this is where the value of Malcolm comes in what are they going to do with that uh and the rest of it got K Barnes CJ Garner Johnson Levi not worried that’s it yeah so I don’t think there anything to worry

About I think it’s is trying to get to like we tal we heard the stat yesterday um from from Biggins about the offensive line um and all those stats when those guys are all healthy this this team is 5 and0 um and especially when you’re going

Up against uh Sunday of denal Hunter um probably one of the best in the league right now I think he has 15 plus sacks already um you you need a guy like pan to be fully healthy so maybe it’s a situation where there was a little bang

Up in that shoulder from Sunday or from Saturday and it’s like hey let’s just make sure he gets back fully healthy he’s a guy that doesn’t need to go out there and get full reps and get every like he he’s a vet um so that’s where

I’m at I’m I’m at with it I just want to make sure um that that he’s good to go I I don’t think outside of that we can get into the CJ Garner Johnson stuff because that’s been the real quick the big one I trust this man I haven’t verified it so

Take this with a green assault but Eduardo says danial Hunter didn’t practice today oh if he did I trust Eduardo we’ll look into that confirm a little bit later but think about that sorry you were going CD Duce yeah I want to get into the CD Duce stuff cuz he

Spoke to the um he spoke kind of to uh the the me for the first time I feel like in a while an actual sit down cuz today was his first day back it is December 20th which he put on Instagram December 20th it’s his birthday and at

The same time he put that on there for a reason now that we know it that today was his first day back at practice and he was out there you got a couple videos of him practicing um and kind of we were able to see that you guys can go check

That out on our Twitter Woodward Sports um I don’t think those have been posted uh there was one earlier today posted of him out there kind of running around oh got you got you got yep so you guys want to go see him on the practice field he

Was out there there but there was a couple press conference today he he sat down in his locker and spoke with people you spoke with him I want to start it off with this right here he talked about coming back someone asked him a question

Um in regards to just like what does it mean for this team for you to come back you obviously saw the Bears game when they when you lose that Bears game energy seemed low a guy like CJ Garner Johnson takes this team to a different level I’ve said it for weeks and weeks

And weeks that if this defense can find a any sort of corner to turn before before a guy like CJ comes back or CD comes back that is like that’s a big deal cuz he like yes I know he’s only one guy can only play one position but

His energy and his leadership changes the whole team and I I truly believe that if you’ve been on a team you know what a guy like that means to your football team um I believe that in that backend of the defense and it’s funny you say that and maybe this is the clip

You’re you’re you’re talking about you’re going to bring up but he talked about that Bears game is like the moment where he is in the clip that’s this clip basically had to kick it into high gear that’s exactly what this is talking about him kind of kicking it into high

Gear when he saw the Bears the loss to the Bears he goes all right I got to come back so here’s a video um in regards to him kind of breaking that down excuse my language I’m be all the way through I think when we lost to

Chicago that’s when I knew something was wrong I can’t tell you what’s going on offense defense I was away but I knew something was wrong eny went the same so I feel like I just got to come back that’s when you sort of realized I can

Be back I’m kicking it in but I’m in high gear now so have you ever wondered in high gear now he’s ready to go I think it’s all gas months heal he spoke to the doctors a month a little over a month into the process like you want to get back early

I don’t think give him a time but you got to do things he like all right he basically he locked himself into his house down Florida and he would rehab at home um he had he has his uh some trainers some rehab people with him uh

But but he talked how hard it was I don’t think you have these think it’s important he talked about how difficult it was mentally for him being away from the team he was alone in Florida with him and his dog he said his dogs were actually the ones that kept himt

Positive kept him focused but just not being able to play football his sport like this is his life his job said it really it was difficult for him but but he says he feels good now he’s learned how to deal with these things like how

To how to how to how to just move past some like channel that into uh into some positive injury he took that and into his music yeah he and he did mention as well too they like someone asked him as well like how do you feel coming off

This injury one of the things he said and and a guy a guy like him too is he came out he was like I’m kind of scared and and and there was multiple things he said he was kind of scared about was one yes obviously getting reinjured um

Because obviously that’s when you go through a big injury you’re always going to think in the back of your head like oh can this happen again so he said he was scared of that number two he was scared of and he was like yeah I’m going

To we have a lot of pressure on our shoulders now like obviously the way the defense has played the last month um a guy like him coming back I’ve put we’ve all put pressure on him thinking that when he comes back the defense is going

To change and he was like I’m scar like but he was I love I love having that like that’s what I’m about I’m about doing that if we didn’t remember C.J Garner Johnson has four division titles he just lost in the Super Bowl like he’s been in these positions to where he is

One of the best in the league at what he does he said it today as well he was like I think I’m the best in the NFL at safety when you have that mindset whether you’re scared whether you’re going through whatever happens that’s the dude you want in your team and in

Your locker room and kind of in your corner there of fighting back and and I I do have faith I do want to play this clip as well um we talk all the like I I said this a lot once once he comes back that defense can take that turn and make

A CH make them contend in the playoffs a lot of people this this is what I love about CJ gner Johnson is when someone asks him when you get talked like hey can you guys go can you guys compete in the playoffs this man’s response I don’t think it gets any

Better than this this is a guy that wants to go win a Super Bowl and I’m not talking about a division I’m not talking about winning the playoff game this is a man who he goes into the playoffs on any football team he’s thinking we’re going

To win the Super Bowl I’m going after the Super Bowl I don’t care about anything else short it’s a very short clip but here’s him talking about kind of the playoff run and if the Detroit Lions can contend this year you guys feel like you’re a threat in the

Playoffs that’s the dumbest question you know we’re a threat come on man they I think they can hear it have you ever wondered hear us you guys can hear the video right they could hear yes they could hear I’m pretty sure they could hear it Nick wasn’t over there all good

All good so basically he said if I remember correctly um oh he was like that’s that’s the dumbest question dumb question which it is a a great question I I don’t think it was a bad question but the way he responded to it say like what are you talking about that’s the

Mindset and I’ve been trying this is a mindset that I’ve been trying to put in like lions fans heads it’s like go look at other fan bases that win and I get it’s our job to break the game down and say hey is it realistic to win is it

This or that but when you’re in a position as a contender and you’re supposed to be a franchise that’s continuously winning and winning and winning and you’re trying to get to that point and trying to move on from the so and you’re trying to become that that’s

The mindset that you need to have when you go look at like Patriot I know the Patriots won a lot Patriots fans Phil fans San Fran fans all these other fans around the league who have teams that are winning whether they’re teams 10 and four and they’re mediocre they’re going

To look you done in the eyes and say we’re going to beat you in the Super Bowl even if they know their team’s trash they’re going to be like no we’re still we’re coming at you and that’s what I the the the mindset that I’ve been trying to instill into this fan

Base into the people into people at this network it’s hey your team has a chance right now whether you think they’re good enough or not they’re going to be playing a football game that’s meaningful and has a chance to to move on to the next round and that’s the

Mindset C.J Garner Johnson has brother yeah it’s the the question you asked uh you asked us yesterday and I think a couple the other shows to have asked it too like can you Vis can you picture the lions in the Super Bowl that’s exactly what cidd Johnson cidd Johnson cidi

Deuce CJ Garner Johnson that’s exactly what he’s bringing to this team he mentioned he he’s been on three different teams five years he’s been in the playoffs or it was four division titles like he’s used to being a winner and that’s what he brings to this team

And that’s what you need that’s why Bruce irin got brought in that’s why like you have the Young Dudes now now it’s time to start and that’s why they brought CD du in in the offseason it’s like where we need those guys Jared gof he’s been to a Super Bowl I know people

Might say the stats and all but he’s been there he knows what it takes like these guys know that and that’s like the mindset that I’ve been trying like when I say the Boer path and people laugh oh you’re a Slappy it’s not that I’m a

Slappy it’s like even when I’m on a team and playing it like and I have a team that’s it’s like hey if I’m in the playoffs whether we’re five and five and eight or whatever and somehow we make the playoffs or in high school or College it’s like hey we still have a

Chance like and when we were in when I was at sagov Valley if we would go into the conference Championship as the eight seed and playing the number one team in the country fair state who’s expected to go win the national championship we’re going on the road hey I’m not going in

The locker room saying oh boys man they’re they’re they’re pretty damn good don’t know what to tell you no I’m going in there I’m like Hey we’re in this we’re here they all have scholarships just like you have scholarships they all have money just like you have money

We’re on the same playing field now let’s go on and win a football game all right when we come back from b i do have one more um video I want to play here with CJ uh talking about uh winning the division real quick though I’m going to

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And likes today shout out to the heav but we’re coming after the likes there tonight we’re going to get it um I want to finish this off real quick brother I have one more video with CJ Runner Johnson then we’ll get into jir Gibbs um finishing that that there you were you

Were sitting there on those the the whole interview and I got a text from you I got a text from a couple other people like hey this CJ interview like people love it I saw tweets where people were like CJ went off in this interview

It was like a 10 minute time he sat down and just went off for 10 minutes and the best thing I think I took out of this was obviously this Sunday the Detroit Lin have a chance to clinch the division CJ just got into town what 8 months ago

Into Detroit when he when he signed here this is a man who came in and impacted the city impacted everyone right away the blue schi Mas which by the way he said it’s a curse when if you’re if you’re a schi Mas guy he came out

Himself I think and said NOP we’re not doing that anymore no he did they okay I just want to make sure but he came out someone asked him about the winning the division and how he would react to it he had one of the best answers I think that

You could give here especially for the city of Detroit here’s CJ talking about winning the division for the fans since 1993 I might cry I’m might c mean to you I mean I think about it a lot of the guys and I don’t want to speak for

Everybody but a lot of them have an experience the conference champ you know so this is a step of feeling like a winner if you haven’t won anything like it’s my fifth year I don’t won four divisions no not to throw in nobody’s face but that’s the best feeling you can

Home fi Advantage so you guys can enjoy it ain’t for us it’s for you guys to enjoy it to help us win wow at the end that’s for you guys to enjoy this isn’t for us that’s for you guys he he knows what like it means

To the city of Detroit to the fans the organization I I just want and I’ve said this before I remember um after the this blue ski mask thing happened I remember I came on air that next Monday or whenever or Tuesday if I can’t remember it was Monday Night Football and I

Looked everyone we did a real and it had hundreds of thousands of views and I said listen I don’t care what it takes I’ll pay some money I’ll go to Ellen Park myself that man needs to resign a deal Detroit they need to spend money on

Him am I off on that fellas am I off I think that I think it’s like hey that’s a solidified thing I know he’s coming off the injury I think no matter what that’s a piece you want when you’re building this this organization definitely key guy for that locker room

It seems like he he definitely is a leader in that locker room already and you can tell that the guys follow with him with the energy that comes about when he starts talking and the way he talks at the other teams play players he gets those guys going too so I love his

Uh his [ __ ] talking uh capabilities kg you’re reigning him I I would want to um and I feel like he’s making the rest of those safeties better he’s he’s only going to help improve everybody in that locker room but he’s the vocal leader that that we need every team needs that

Heart and soul player that that vocal leader kind of like I hate to say a Draymond for the Warriors but you need that presence in the locker room and I I I hope they do uh resign him especially seeing that he really didn’t even get to

Really make an impact for this team and I know that’s that that killed him so um yeah I would like to see him do that [ __ ] Pistons should sign him signed a double contract there man no I don’t want that to him don’t don’t do that to

Him don’t put him on the Pistons Man true he would let them lose though no he wouldn’t but I don’t want to i’ encourage you all go watch the full full interview I think the Detroit Lions posted it I don’t know if we’re going to have Clips out um but the whole

Interview is incredible so uh so check it out yeah make sure you guys check that out let let’s Flip Flip sides of the ball here to jir Gibbs cuz this was going to be the segment anyway so we’ll go about 10 minutes on this um Lewis

Riddick and Hank Frey both of these guys today um had huge comments and it’s coming after yesterday I came out and said I think he’s top five in the NFL at his position the last eight weeks I started doing some math today I got a

Little caught up um so I wasn’t able to finish the the Boer statistics as flan would say but these the there’s some big time names coming out talking about him um kg do you have the graphic of Ls rck I put in there you want thr right now

Yeah cuz he had an interesting thing to say about him and and this is like I said top five at his position Lewis rck came out and said jir Gibbs would be a leading MVP candidate in 2024 he has every skill you could possibly want in a

Running back that is that’s not anyone saying it that’s a ball knower saying that the only thing that jir Gibbs doesn’t have is is the Q in front of the B uh in running back RB like the fact he’s not a quarterback is the only thing holding him back from this being a

Really true statement yeah and I think like if you look at like a running back having a chance to win it a guy like Christian mcaffrey this year a guy like Alvin chra in the past who who’s had opportunity like guys who are are explosive can be Playmakers those are

Guys that are in those conversations BR I I don’t I don’t want to say like I’m like a guarantee in it but like for a guy like Le rck to say that I I think there’s a chance you see him as a top five running back in the in the NFL

Going forward running back for sure but you’re talking MVP candidate he he’s one of the running backs who could do it because of how versatile he is like the CAC the the Alvin Kamar those are good comps because they can catch the ball and run the ball and they’re T like they

They can do it all and I think that’s what it will take unless you have a a Chris Johnson type of SE a 2,000 yard season just as a running back just just running the ball uh I think you got to be able to do a little bit everything

Here we go baby one to one how about that Nick we got here how about that Nick is this cop Kane the cop how about that Nick candy K to mat o mat mat let’s go one1 baby how about that downhill spiral Nick what do you mean

Downhill spiral I was uh bringing up the fact that they lost three gam straight and we want them to contend for the playoffs we want this team to be hot and rolling just like the Lions and they’re showing up let’s go one1 baby here we go

Boys here we go here we go um all right another comment too you were in the building today when when Hank Frey spoke I was and and you did tweet out on on the Woodward Sports account the comments he had about jir K this was more interesting to me I think actually

Because I think we all feel like um the we and I think we know the offensive line is the heart of this team and they help these running backs Hank fry the offensive line coach thought the opposite which was crazy kind of the way he went about it uh kg whenever you can

Just show that that Woodward Sports s off about Hank Frey it’s yeah one second and and BR I’m going to let you kind of take over on this cuz you were in the building crazy comments and I think it shows how good these running backs are

Yeah yeah and I I don’t think he’s he’s diminishing how good his offensive line has been but he’s saying they could do all the work they can if jir Gibbs doesn’t run like jir Gibbs it it’s it it doesn’t look the same but he said you

See right here he makes us look good you know all we have to do is give him and demo a crack and then the end of the quote was like and then they execute and then they then they’re gone they do all that work so that that makes it easy and

Jir Gibbs um I posted a video to my Twitter which will probably be the last one ever but from the locker room after um after the Broncos game and it was jir Gibbs talking about the offensive line and talking about D being a running back right now and I’m paraphrasing this a

Little bit being a running back is easy like L all I got to do they they create these monster gaps they they pick up all the blitzers they pick up all the reads um he was like man it’s it’s just not that hard like the the running back is

Not that hard and he was being a little bit vicious but it the fact that they’re both saying this like like you never hear one of them uh anyone on this team sort of take uh you know try to take the spotlight and even Dan campel like like

Talking about someone asked him a question about Jared GF today he’s like we really I’m not singling out anybody like we have conversations behind closed doors but that’s just not what we do it’s awesome to see everyone has each other’s backs yeah everybody and the

Thing too with that is it kind of shows how great your these different position groups are the fact that your offensive line is that great the best in the league and then on the other side they can sit there and be like man they they

Help us make they they help look make us look good as well and your running back you probably have the best running back duel in the NFL as well like the fact that Lions have that right now and potentially for the next couple years to

Me is insane and I wanted to talk about this too uh before we go to break here in just a sec I a little statement here make it I think jir Gibbs in the next year or two will be the best player on this football team hands down I think

He’s going to end up being the best all around pound-for-pound football player on this team I know you have pen Su I know you have am man R stound Aid hson I think jir Gibbs he is going to he has the potential at one point in his career

To be the best in the league to be a CMC to be a chimra when he is at his best to be literally the number one player at his position at one point in his career I think he can do that here in Detroit especially when he has four years here I

I don’t see how that’s or five years really because he has that extra year being in the first round I I don’t see see how he’s not I think next year when you go into the year him pan and maybe Hutch you could say but I’d say jir has

The potential to be the best player on this football team pound-for-pound going into next year if you say pound-for-pound then yes and I I maybe put him in omor brown pen has a lot of pounds like like they he’s got a lot of pounds he is he’s the best player on

This team uh but I I get where you’re at and and I hope so I mean he’s as talented as anybody shout out Steve Wilds by the way come on boys CH in for a hat for what’s I I try to wear a hat I’m grow I’m growing a mullet out for

The people the people wanted me to grow a mullet and and I started it here you guys see that right there I started it that’s the Boer path right there on the side and then all of a sudden it’s like bu put a hat on we don’t want to seeing

With you they’re messing with you I I love you guys still hey man sometimes you got to be the Martyr it’s okay man yeah I I’ll hey come at me everyone throw me what you have here Boer is not leaving the ship he will be the C you’re

The last one on the ship that’s that’s what makes you great oh yeah I’ll go down with the ship I don’t care yeah you’re you’re a loyal you’re a good friend thank you you’re welcome that’s awesome I love all you boys man and all the people in the chat I love you guys

The mullet actually like I know it’s crazy to sounds I think I actually might be Theo Von’s little brother oh not this again Boer I love the haircut though Theo Bo you can be Theo Bo I let me hit on this another thing that I really I like just like your haircut another

Thing I really like jir Gibbs I agreed with your statement that he could potentially be the next player in the upcoming years if he were to play every game he’d have 1,500 41 yards as a rookie and 11 touchdowns wow that’s with the amount of touches that he’s getting

So you think about the increased workload we are talking record setting type numbers in the future if he is the primary back getting the most touches shout out I love that next when we come back up here after break where actually Jeff put a tweet out he talked about it

On the morning show this morning and they they had a conversation I know uh kg you were you were there for that uh but he put an interesting tweet out that kind of crazy to think about so we’ll do that um when we come back from break brother tell us about dispo experience

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Woodward nights with Boer and brother on the Woodward Sports Network Woodward sports.com wherever you’re watching appreciate you guys hit that like button for us um in about 10 minutes we’re going to be having a Michigan I would say Insider I think is the right term right Anthony broom will be joining the

Show if you guys haven’t seen uh throughout to today a lot of different breaking news from Michigan uh Jim Harbo to the Chargers has been uh talked about a ton of new recruits kind of coming in uh transfer portal has been on the move today uh new NCAA violations and

Allegations uh kind of pushed out in different things and obviously the college football playoffs we’re going to be talking to Anthony about that and I think a lot of people do know Anthony cuz I got introduced to him um not like personally but I kind of heard of him

From the morning Woodward show um Adam had him on Adam and Jeff had him on a while back that was how I became known of um he’s great he’s been covering the Michigan Sports I think since 2014 15ish and he’s just he he’s very knowledgeable ever since I saw him on Woodward Sports

Before I I followed him and everything he does it’s it’s it’s great content um keeps you up to date so we’ll have him on at 9:00 right now we’re going to stick and keep going here Detroit Lions um Jeff put a tweet out Jeff by Freddy

For the morning Ward show 8: a.m. to 10 a.m. check it out uh kg was on this morning as well with them um but he put a tweet out that was interesting to me um and kg you could throw it up with whenever you want here cuz I I want to

Read this out because the Detroit Lions are in the position right now with this offense and we do talk about this offense a lot and how they’re a top five offense but they’re in a position to do something that no other offense in the NFL has ever done um they could be the

First offense uh to ever produce two 1,000 yard rushers and two 1,000 yard receivers in a season wow and those guys obviously am manro St Brown for the receiver he has already hit a th000 plus um he’s on his way for 12 1300 yards depending on the next couple uh uh weeks

Um you guys see it up there uh Sam leaport he needs 242 more yards to get to 1K about 80 yards per game Jamir Gibbs is about 208 yards away I think he gets it 69 yards a game and then David mountgomery 145 more to go for him about 48 yards

Per game I think the two running backs get it I think Sam leapor is the questionable one to me um that’s tough for for him I know he had 140 yard game but just in three games he would just really have to go off but either way we

We’ve talked about this offense a lot Brer the fact that that’s the first NFL a team that has never done that before this Lions team is about has a potential to do it with four different guys two of them being rookies I think it speaks volumes one on Brad Holmes but I think

Just on this offense with Ben Johnson Jared go um and just the offensive line in general too yeah it it shows you like the balance of this offense is it you can almost tell you can almost tell how balanced this offense is from that graphic just in terms of how they spread

The ball around you got the fact that there two running backs up for a th000 yards and two wide two pass catchers uh who could C A th000 yards is is crazy and that comes along with being uh the number one or number two best offense in

The NFL that’s a testament to Ben Johnson that’s a testament to Jared G and obviously that offensive line for allowing both a a strong Run game and a pass game which seems simple it’s not these offensive lineman these days there I don’t want to say a lot of them are

Specialists but there are so many that are Elite in the Run game or Elite in the past game but their play drops off on the reverse this offensive line as a unit is able to do both at an elite level I love this comment Tyler chevet said it’s the literal textbook pick your

Poison Arsenal a great pick your poison who do you want us to go at and I think that’s been something that you’ve seen this offense do a lot to where it’s like hey if veran Ras like remember the Sam leapor game mon St Brown that was one of

Those games where he didn’t have a lot and and we were like where’s he at but Sam leapor ended up coming up and Shining David mountgomery when he was hurt jir Gibbs stepped up when jir was hurt deont stepped up and it was it’s been a constant like no matter who fills

In you have the guys and uh the fact that Brad Holmes drafted two of those guys this last year and they’re already filling in to this void uh what the Lions kind of needed it is incredible to me I mean jir Gibbs has been everything that we’ve wanted that we wanted DeAndre

Swift to be think about that like we thought DeAndre Swift was going to be that next guy one of the best running backs in the NFL Jamir Gibbs in one year has been everything that we were all sat up here and wanted DeAndre Swift to be so I’m that’s where I’m I’m a

Little like that that to me it’s like Brad I don’t have my hat cap off to you Brad Holmes like that is you you made that choice people got went at you for passing up bejan um and Jaylen Carter and going him and then trading Swift and

Being like what’s going on letting Jamal go he’s been he DeAndre Swift never did this in in Detroit at least in my opinion and whether the numbers line up or not I think just eye test it’s night and day difference it is it is and you I

Hate that my mind goes to this place but I’m thinking about the missed opportunities for David Montgomery and jir Gibbs like jir Gibbs I believe it was a rush what would have been a rushing touchdown in the Kansas City Chiefs game uh where he slipped kind of

Running to the outside it would have been a game changer that have been a 20 25 yard touchdown D Montgomery dropped a a pass in the Saints game as a third and 10 Jared GF threw him a screen probably would have been a 30 40 50 yard run uh

And then jir Gibbs also dropped one I think in the Seahawks I think it was Seahawks game it was you’re right you’re right that would have been like a 70 80 yard touchdown so um those plays are in there the fact that they don’t have them

That you know it’s in the past but the the they’re both big play explosive they both have big play explosive abilities jir Gibbs is obviously the the more explosive one but David Montgomery brings that perfect balance of being able to run hard and then that Chargers

Game he lets one go for stacked and they’re going to be together for a couple more years which is crazy to think Nick you raising you have something no okay you’re just stretching over there all right I saw him out the gave up a third goal in a row our goal

Tending needs to improve ASAP so negative Nick he was rehabbing his his pectoral the last time he gave us an update the the Red Wings answered that’s true that is true GI let’s go that’s brutal who um I just had a question it was jir Gibbs Sam leor question um both

Gold jackets justo just imagine that imagine draft though that imagine in one draft Brad Holmes drafted two gold jackets on off like that and and I know we’re talking offense here even on the other side of the ball he drafted two of your starters in the future and Brian branch

And Jack Campbell yeah like in one draft Brad holes went out there and got four starters two on each side of the ball like what GM does that every draft I don’t know maybe a four-time Super Bowl winning quarterback as well who knows if I’m not mistaken oh yeah him too he was

Just left off by the side of the road if I’m not mistaken too someone said earlier in the chat Brad Holmes is up for GM of the year or executive of the year he should get it he he should there’s no reason why that man should

Not win that and I know some of them haven’t worked out due to injury but I love the offseason signings like like take the injuries out of it which is all of it but forget that for a moment the type of players the cam Sutton CJ Gardner Johnson Emanuel Mosley and David

Montgomery like just to name a few those those are tough football players those are everything you those are the the the veteran versions of your Jack Campbell and your Brian branches just in terms of how they play the game and we expect Brian Branch Jack Campbell that crew to

Be more talented even than those guys so if you pair that all together like like the sky is the limit I think defense is harder to come in and make an impact right especially linebacker or jeck Campbell that’s a tough position to come in and make an impact Brian Branch I

Think made an impact instantly so I’m not worried about him as much Jack Campbell I think him I think he’s going to be just fine like we saw when he got the Green Dot the other a couple weeks ago he was he was Elite so I’m I’m I’m

Fine I’m fine with that what’ you say there Nick two tackle for losses in his first day first game Jack Campell yeah the only negative part about Jack Campbell we’ve seen so far I’m telling you is literally that home Bears game when he had two missed tackles if he

Doesn’t have those two missed tackles I think people um are looking at him a lot differently because that kind of set a little bad president to him and I think now people are going to I think people expected and I think I might have been

In that in that category too of of he’s going to be your your starter from day one like he is the second coming of Chris Spielman Brian eracer or Luke Keeley um it’s just taking a little longer and it’s still still taking a little longer Dan Campbell talked about

That in his press conference today some rookies it just happens they come in and they’re able to contribute really quickly uh uh he maybe he even be a little surprised about Gibbs and Lea we said there are other rookies it takes a couple games some it takes one season

Some it takes three Seasons Jack Campbell especially playing the linebacker position I don’t think it’s going to take three seasons right away when you said Luke heeley I was like I wonder what his rookie year was I was I just want to see like maybe maybe some guys start slow at the linebacker

Position Luke Keeley his first year 164 combined tackles oh my gosh I think he might have absolute Hall of Famer right there um defensive or I think he won Defensive Rookie of the Year um he probably was in the defensive player of the year category at that point he

Probably was an all I’m sure he was an all pro his rookie year 164 tackles leader on that Carolina Super Bowl team that made it there yeah only played eight seasons in the NFL too but he was a stud those eight seasons man he it was

A stud um all right when we go to break we’re going to come back we’ll we’ll see um Anthony uh broom uh maybe joining us here I don’t know if he’s in yet but we’ll we we’ll get that worked out here we’ll get I got I got a teaser question

In case we need to kill some time I love it I love but make sure you guys um stay with us here let’s hit break uh BR tell us about Jack Le I will tell you about it and I got a Little Help from our friends in the chat here although I

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Through Woodward Sports uh about a year ago or so when uh he used to join the morning Woodward show um Michigan Wolverine coverage at wolverine.com and the on through Sports Network welcome in Anthony broom Anthony appreciate you joining us today Anthony oh H happy to join thanks for having me apologies uh

For technical difficulties but uh here we are no hey you’re good anthy we’ve had we’ve had a few we’re a newer show here we’ve had a few guests on and we’ve had issues with the our our v-mix on our side here so we appreciate you a ton um

Joining us I know today was actually a pretty uh when I when I messaged you and we set today and then today started going on I realized uh there was a lot of things that started coming out with the Jim Harbo stuff uh all the NCAA the

Transfer everything came out today um so anth I just want to start it off here real quick the one of the big news things here today was uh the Chargers are interested in Jim harbach so this has been on my mind all I cannot get this out of my head what are your

Thoughts on this do you think this is just kind of burning fire or is this an actual thing that he could actually leave to the NFL again yeah I think there’s no question that he could certainly look to the NFL again the fact that there there is a contract

Extension on the table right now that seemingly would be you know make him highest paid coach of the Big 10 $55 million over five years is what’s been floated out there but um you know still still some work to do on the language in terms of guarantees and things like that

I don’t fully know what that entails but yeah you know when it when it comes to the NFL you know so much of your access now depends on the quarterback that you have and and if the Chargers were interested and if there was mutual interest there a lot of questions about

The Spanos family and if they’re even willing to pay what it might take to bring a Jim harb in but you know you can do a lot worse than starting with Justin Herbert and and some of the players they have on offense and defense too and I

Know they have cap issues and things like that I think that’s all overblown yeah um you know a couple years ago when he almost took the Minnesota Vikings job similar situation where you know you’ve got the quarterback in place but you have cap issues and you have you’re probably staring at a transitional

Period but uh I don’t think that really matters to him I think if it’s something that clearly to me I mean that itch is still there uh his brother has a Super Bowl he doesn’t wouldn’t be surprised if Jim Harbaugh wants to go with two Super

Bowls and one up his brother but uh yeah I mean I would say the longer that things go without a contract being signed in Michigan yeah it’s absolutely it’s absolutely uh in play that he could go back and and interestingly enough Black Monday in the NFL this year is the

Same day as the national championship game so no way again if Michigan if Michigan finds a way to kind of ride this thing out and maybe win at all it it might just be the perfect situation for him to say you know what I came back

I delivered on what I was hired to do it’s time for me to go back to the NFL so I I really do think all options are on the table here I really do I’m I’m really hoping Anthony I’m I’m hoping open within the next couple weeks

Somehow some way we we all get an alert across our phones that there’s a contract extension signed by Jim Haro I don’t know if it’ll happen but hopefully uh broer yes uh Anthony thanks for joining the show this is Matt BR Matt broer the co-host to booner over here um

Before we talk about this current team and their uh chased for a national championship I just want to ask you about one more thing that might get in the way of of a possible contract extension and that’s the notice of allegations that came out today uh that

The NCAA gave to the University of Michigan you know it involves four level two um allegations and then the level one or infractions I should say could you give our viewers just a a a brief rundown on that and really what the timeline or what that might look like

Moving forward because I know there are there there’s uh some some timing situ some timing that goes along with it it’s going to take some time for that to come out we’re not going to hear it before the national championship could you just give us a little bit of breakdown of of

What that means Yeah so basically what I noticed allegations is and and again there’s been some questions about the timing of it and oh well did the NCA drop it this week to get in the way of bold prep and uh you know national Signing Day no I don’t think

So a big plot twist we knew that that was going to come from that recruiting violations investigation um it is kind of interesting to me that Michigan was served a draft notice of these allegations back in January and then now it comes out whatever it is 11 months

Later where it’s official but basically what happens from here now is that Michigan now has 90 days to respond in writing and then from the day that Michigan submits its its response the NCA will then have another 60 days to respond back to that to where things

Probably from there go to a hearing that’s something that never happens quickly you’re probably looking at a two to three month timeline after that so now you’re looking at a situation where this is something that’s dragging out into you know next offseason deep and maybe even into the spring and summer um

You know there could be an appeals process which then pushes things back another five or six months so again knowing the way the ntaa operates um this is not going to move quickly and it’s not you know this is simply for the quote unquote Burger gate stuff this has

Nothing to do with the S stealing that’s a separate investigation that I mean we don’t we don’t even know we don’t know what rules they technically violated in that yet so um yeah to me I mean it’s another it’s another layer this whole conversation um again I know the four

Level twos I I think those are things that you know with some good lawyering you probably get around that with a fine some probation things like that uh it’s that level one that hangs over Jim Harbaugh for you know potentially misleading or or not coopera cooperating with an investigation that kind of hangs

Over his head so we know the NCA wasn’t wasn’t happy with the four games that was was originally planned between Michigan and the NCAA Michigan self-impose three to kind of soften the blow and then we’ll see what happens from there so uh yeah crazy times just again it is never a d people

People ask me all the time oh when the season’s over what do you guys have to talk about literally everything because it never stops with this guy in this program hey you like to stay I like we all like to stay busy um real quick and

I just saw of this off the top of my head with these kind of allegations and the NCAA stuff that level one viol um then you might not be able to answer this Anthony so if you can’t no big deal but with the sign stealing stuff and

This level one is this something that could be like a major like double like I’m I’m trying to think of the word but like death penalty not death penalty no don’t say that Nick whoa but more so just like hey you get hit with two violations like big time ones in this

Off season and next year it’s like Jim Harbo out for almost the whole year uh because there are two separate things going on and I’m not sure how the NCAA will you know they’re investigating two different Windows here is that like a big concern that you do you think or is

It will it kind of be all looped into one I’m I’m I’m kind of interested in that to hear your thoughts on that yeah it’s interesting because I mean knowing everything we do right now and again there is still an investigation ongoing but things have have really come to a screeching halt

With you know the S cealing stuff and I think everything that’s out there right now is what everybody knows so there could always be more evidence than emergers but in the Here and Now you’re probably looking at some some petty level two level three sort of

Sanctions for that if there were I mean again it’s still unclear what rules were even violated what the spe of the rules were Etc um you know Jim Harbaugh I think that uh as long as nothing comes out that incriminates him with the sign stealing Scandal and again um you’re

Talking about another another a big tenm POS suspension there the three games again that that might even have been who’s to say that might have been an overreaction in terms of of what his punishment is so again I don’t know I think if you’re looking at more game

Serves for Jim Harbaugh I do think that’s probably something that’s more in the recruiting investigation uh ordeal I think the NCA wanted six originally um again I do think that once the initial Bluster of those that you know those four or five weeks where it just seemed

Like there was something new every day about Michigan football and Connor stallion once that kind of subsided and you’re sitting here going you know I I think the question that a lot of people still can’t really answer is you know when you look at his suspension that came down

From the big tenets why was Jim Harbaugh suspended and no one can really answer that still so to me again I don’t know that I mean maybe it’s possible that the NCA looks at that situation as as potential time served I doubt it being that uh you know it really does kind of

Seem like they have it out for this guy but uh if Jim Harbaugh were to get more of a suspense and I’d have to think given everything that we know it wouldn’t be more than maybe two or three additional games and and at the end of

The day it all comes full circle with the conversation we started with in terms of the contract extension the NFL does does he want to deal with this you know and that’s that’s the other consideration too yeah I mean it’s going to be a busy busy off season honestly um

Two investigations the the NFL stuff um Turning Tables here a little bit um couple more things here for you Anthony appreciate you joining um again if you’re listening to Anthony broom on the phone here with on3 uh Michigan kind of Insider here um want to kind of talk about this Michigan Alabama matchup

That’s coming next week um next it’s coming up quick actually yeah um initial thoughts on that it seems like the big storyline obviously is Nick Sab versus Jim Harbo uh Alabama’s back in the race here it’s the I I saw a tweet today that said it’s the Alabama Invitational um so

I keep hearing all these different things and um I just want to get your just initial thoughts here on how you think um and and obv obiously the TCU last year Georgia the year before is this a Michigan team right now that you feel like can bounce back and kind of

Get that first college playoff Victory and actually make a run here at the national championship it feels like I could be wrong but going to the 12 team playoffs next year this is a huge opportunity for for them to to land that National Championship what are your thoughts on

That it is uh you know even last year we said well if you’re not going to do it now then when are you but then of course bunch of guys come back you run it back and now you know they’re the one seed in this field and when you look at it I

Mean you look at just every roster in this college football playoff you feel what Michigan brings to the table now Alabama’s that boogeyman though right and when you’re talking about a Michigan program that’s had these postseason woses and you know there is no like last year I think to a certain

Extent now they just got beat last year they didn’t play well but I do think to a certain extent you had those guys coming in kind of going you know what we’re gonna that that 335 defense we’re gonna to SM you know smash those guys and we’re goingon to go play Georgia

We’re gon to get our revenge from last year and you got punched in the mouth he lost focus and the thing I like about a match up with Alabama is that you know regardless of if they’re a team and again I mean I look at this Alabama team

It’s not they don’t have that same gear that a lot of these National Title contending Alabama teams have had um obviously a lot of terrific players they’ve got a quarterback that’s extremely mobile and is going to be you know going to be a problem to slow downs

And you look at Alabama I mean they they’ve won their last six semi-final games in the college football playoff by an average of I think it’s something like 19.7 points per game so when they get here they tend to smack you around but uh you know when I look at this game

You know the question you have to ask yourself is you know is Alabama better than Ohio state is Alabama better than Penn State I think defensively especially when you look at those Edge guys that Alabama has I think they’re very comparable I think Alabama’s are um I mean they’ve got two

Potential first round picks at Edge they’ve got two potential first round picks at cornerback they’re athletic they’re quick there but offensively you know they don’t have you used to Alabama having those you know the Jerry judies the Devonte Smiths I don’t think they have quite that caliber of guy at wide

Receiver I don’t quite see the same caliber of offensive line and running back play so really I do I’m still kind of leaning that this might be a close Alabama win but this is not going to be I I I see this being a lot like that Penn State game that

Michigan played in I see it being a lot like the Ohio State game where you know it’s not a shootout every possession matters and there could be some big plays but uh it’s going to come down to quarterback play it’s going to come down to how JJ McCarthy plays compared to how

Jayen mro plays and you know when you get to this time of the year you could play well and still lose but you know when you look at everything on paper I I like how Michigan matches up I think they have the advantage at quarterback I think defensively you know all this talk

About the Alabama defense Alabama hasn’t quite seen a defense like Michigan’s yet either Georgia would be the closest thing but I don’t think they they were what they have been so it’s going to be a dog fight I don’t see I think if if you’re tallying points for these

Semifinal games I think the majority of them are going to come in that second game I think this one’s going to be a bar fight I like that actually I was I was I was feeling the same way a little bit especially with the def the two

Defenses there I I do think um Michigan’s has the best defense in the country so I think it’s going to be a bit of a bar fight like you said um Anthony our guy over here in the booth Nick he’s got a question actually about some recruiting stuff from today I know

Today was Signing Day um so he’s got a question for you about some of that stuff over there Nick yeah Anthony Nicholas Koff here audio engineer Woodward Knights Michigan ranks 17th nationally after the early national Signing Day after three big 10 championships three college football playoff off appearances do you believe

The Harbaugh to the NFL rumors the Harbaugh suspensions or us being behind on nil is the biggest reason why they are not on the upper echelon on the recruiting trail with zero five-star recruits question I think you know it’s a little bit of column a little bit of column B

Little bit of column C I think it all has something to do with it um you know when it comes to when it comes to the Jim Harbaugh aspect of it I don’t know that that plays as much of a factor I think most guys most guys kind of

Realize here that if it’s not Jim Harbaugh it probably will be Chiron Moore so you’re looking at some continuity there uh and really when you look at this you look at this class again 17th Michigan again they’re not Ohio state they’re not Alabama they’re not Georgia in terms of the type of

Classes that they can probably bring in but it’s not too much to ask for them to be inside that top 10 I think that you know when you see when you do lose out on some of those guys um that’s kind of an issue but then you look you kind of

Break down I just wrote something a couple hours ago about just looking at the guys on the offensive side of the ball and and when you look at the things that Michigan wants to do which is control the line of scrimmage run the football and bring in a quarterback that

Doesn’t make a ton of mistakes um and that leads the offense and moves the ball picks up first downs Etc they checked all those boxes there and defensively like I’ll I’ll dive into that as well but um you know again if if you sacrifice here’s what I’ll say about

The way that they’ve recruited is yeah you might sacrific a few spots in the recruiting rankings but I’m gonna take my chances with a staff that has gone and then found guys like Hassan H Haskins like a Ronnie Bell like a samage Morgan like a coulston l i mean those

Are guys that you’re pulling out of non-traditional areas of of of you know football talent and you get them in there you develop them and they turn into the it’s all work to your team so you you you trust the Player Development you trust the evaluations but you know

What I mean given that you’ve been to the college football playoff three years in a row you can kind of have your cake and eat it too and it’s frustrating that they haven’t fully captured that momentum but uh you know it is what it

Is and uh with the guys that they have I still think that they can find a way to keep this window open yeah and and I do think too Anthony I like and I believe this I I think kind of the recruiting side of things I I could be so wrong

With this I I think it changes to like with the transfer portal stuff now um that they’re able to kind of attack that and we did see a big transfer today real real quick before we let you go one last brief question here I got for anthon I

Apologize for keeping you here so long are you shocked that that that man down in Columbus Ryan Day still has a job I’m I’ve been on air a lot the last couple months going at Ryan day is it shocking to you that he’s still there in Ohio

State and I we I saw some videos today of him kind of being going through it so far uh with all these signings is that shocking to you uh it’s not shocking and let me let me turn the tables on you here isn’t it kind of a little more fun to watch him

Down as bad as he is fantastic would you rather watch that so wouldn’t you rather watch that the next five years than have him you know bring in a I don’t know I’m just throwing a name out there bring in Mike Vel and all of a sudden they’re tough

Again and um yeah I mean I I would just say enjoy this little run enjoy this run I Ryan Day want to keep wants to keep building the airplane out of you know five star wide receivers but uh you know proofs in the pudding uh Michigan Michigan owns them right now and when

You you see a guy sit up on the podium and God he’s on the verge of tears hearing that one of his five star receivers is actually signing I’m like man oh man Michigan has broken this man and it is uh it is a sight to behold

Because there was a lot of uh there’s a lot of hubris and false false bravado even just what 10 11 weeks ago you think back to that game at Notre Dame so um hey water find water finds uh water is finding its level so uh yeah I hope he

Stays forever honestly I love it hey you’re you’re 100% right I actually I enjoy seeing him over there struggle and that’s a mic drop out of Anthony right there that was great hey Anthony we appreciate you a ton coming on um hopefully maybe we can get you next week

As well um for the college football playoffs a little preview of that game also Anthony we’re we’re renaming our show thanks to our chat it’s woodw nights with Boer broer and broomer is that the broomer they the 3B so you’re welcome anytime I love it appreciate you Anthony appreciate your time thank you

Of course thank you guys you bet that was awesome that was awesome we haven’t talked Michigan football Michigan Sports in a while just to hear his perspective on every I know we covered a lot and he gave us some awesome information that we got to dive into tomor we’re getting

Closer to the college football playoffs I I realized this week and that was why um you know last I reached out to him and then I realized college football playoffs is next weekend like it’s coming up here um and we have a team here Michigan and the state of Michigan

That’s playing in it um so we do have to talk about it a little bit and I know the Lions all of that but hey let’s hit break when we come back um we’re going to turn our tables back over um I believe over to the lons I have a quick

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Let’s get to 125 here uh beat the Heavies out appreciate you guys uh sticking with us shout out to Anthony broom as well great that was a great uh Insight on everything going on in Michigan um broer put his stuff in the in the chat so you can go check him out

He’s on the wolverine.com and on three Sports so uh he does a great job especially over on Twitter as well uh putting stuff out if you guys need some Michigan information um let’s let’s turn the tables here let’s get back to some Lions talk here division on Sunday in

The in the grasp the division is right there question I had for you guys and I thought this was interesting I I always try and think at things with different angles um look at the end result and say how can we go around that what are some

Questions to get there thing right now is obviously the NFC North Lions can clinch that on Saturday or Sunday with the win um and even if you know they have a couple chances to clinch it in the next couple weeks if you look at the NFC North the last 12 years the Green

Bay Packers have dominated the NFC North they’ve won the NFC North eight out of the last 12 years it has been their division that has been very welln my question to you guys is do we truly feel I want to go around the room on this cuz

I want to get everyone’s like I want to get every feeling on this do we feel like the Detroit Lions can truly take over this division like the Green Bay Packers did for 12 years and when I say that the reason I’m saying that is because the Lions haven’t gone out there

And just paid a bunch of dudes and brought dudes in on short term to be great they have been building and and Brad Holmes has built the correct way you don’t see it all the time in the NFL but when you see it it works really well

And he’s done it through the draft obviously Jared gof uh not like a elite quarterback whatsoever uh but a guy that can he can go out there and win you football games and then if you can get him cheap or if you have a guy like

Henen hooker who we’ve seen like FR big good franchises like the Packers go out and draft Hall of Fame guys if you can do that I truly right now looking at kind of what they’ve built with the guy like jir Gibbs and these rookies uh Sam laort I think this is something you

Could see in a long term where the Lions can dominate this division whether they win it you know eight out of the 12 years or they win it six out of the 12 years I think in the the next 10 to 12 years this allons team wins the Division

Half of the time and they Dominate and they kind of make their presence known brother I’ll hit you and then we’ll go I’ll be quick so everyone can get a shot here but I I this is a really hard question to answer what the Packers did

Is is special but there this is the goal this is what they’re trying to build it to and they certainly have a shot and I think to to point out the trade deadline that everyone uh including myself at some points was a little frustrated that they didn’t go and get anybody that’s

Because Brad is at homes is trying to turn this team into a sustainable winner whether that’s three four years or whether that’s an 8-year run whichever he’s doing it by by building through the draft by building through the trenches drafting the big guys building out that offensive line the most expensive unit

On the team he’s got a quarterback in Jared G like you said who whether he is I’m not calling him a bridge quarterback but your bridge to the franchise quarterback or he plays into your franchise quarterback that that’s an ingredient you need for sustained success so you do that and and then you

Bring in guys he’s shown he can bring in free agents like cidd deuce like C suton the right types of football players I don’t ever see this team I’ll say it going back to the same old lines I don’t think we’re going to see those same this regime those same old habits because

Because of the types of players they’re not only drafting but they’re bringing it through free agent they’re football players it’s the Jack cbles the Brian branches jir Gibbs lores of the world like like you don’t have to worry about their effort and their energy and intensity and then you pair that with

These free agents the veterans who are the same type of player but have had success in the NFL it I I don’t I haven’t seen success you know in Detroit in in my lifetime but I do believe that is the formula to success so that has a

Long-winded answer to say they got a shot to do that Nick what do you think yeah I like that answer a lot I think for me it comes down to a couple key things Jared gof and the contract that you give him it that is the biggest

Reason why this team can get built with future free agents or being able to sign your own free agents if you don’t give that quarterback the massive contract I’m not making this into a oneoff with him because I believe in Brad Holmes and the way he drafts to make this a dynasty

Type team where we contend for NFC after NFC after NFC and Super Bowls but completely own the NFC North the second thing is is the Bears the Bears Justin Fields what do they do with him because they have two top five picks if they land these both right and get two blue chip

Type guys say Caleb Williams you trade Justin Fields off if you get that offense right to go with that defense that’s massively improved I could see them challenging in the future I just don’t see it happening in the next year or two but after that I could see the

Bears becoming a contender in the NFC North as well kg thoughts on the long term here I mean Green Bay dominate a division for 12 years is a very hard thing to do you got to have a little bit of luck involved in that but I think we

Can all see that the lions are building this thing for like long-term success it seems sustainable for the first time like ever really um and they can keep doing that Brad Holmes has to continue to draft the young talent and and uh evaluate talent as good as he is uh Dan

Cble has to keep his coaching staff uh in good order as well because we may lose Ben we may lose Ag and he’s been shown to to know when to make the right move at the right time uh going back to Anthony Lyn and and firing Aubrey

Pleasant you know stuff like that so um if if they if he keeps the right staff around him and Brad Holmes can continue to not only do well in the draft but also do better with free agent signings and things of that nature I don’t see why they can’t dominate this division

For a long time um Green Bay they will probably come back up you have to worry about the the Bears like Nick said but um the Lions have a have a head start on this thing man and I think we can at least see good Lions football for the

Next five to six years if they can you at this place I’d love to hear that yeah and I love what you brought up about the coaching staff because I think you’re spot on but I do think it’s something we’re going to have to learn we’re going

To have to learn to see good coaches move on because this is part of the culture that they’re building and part of why uh Detroit’s becoming an attractive Place both for coaches and for players on one-year deals players trying to get that next contract even if it’s not going to be long-term in

Detroit they trust what Detroit is building uh Brad Holmes and Dane Campbell are building a a a culture within this coaching staff we talk about how many play former players there are uh former players with with Super Bowl WIS with experience um they know this organization is so supportive of them

Going and getting promotions getting their dream job they they know at some point Ben Johnson is going to go be a head coach they know they know their players are working their way up the ranks to become head coaches to become coordinators so they’re not going to be

Able to keep on keep on keep a hold of all of them but what they’re doing like with Scotty Montgomery they’re giving him all the tools to become a successful head coach one day he’s the representative in the NFL coaching uh funnel I forget what it’s called but

They they want these players to do well and move on and they’re just going to keep replacing that uh and because they’re supporting them that’s why they’ll be able to replace that and I think all I think what it comes down to is like go look at like Kyle Shannahan

What he’s done with his the the I’m going to call not organization but his like football program um same with um sea McVey what he’s done I think Dan Campbell can start moving to that to where after Ben Johnson because he’s going to leave at some point whether

It’s this year or next year he will leave once he leaves you’re going to start that’s that’s going to be when the answer or the questions answered because you’re going to know right away um how serious Dan is with kind of building these guys underneath him like is he

Like the Kyle Shannon H and sha McVey who know constantly like just his kind of um his offense kind of who he is his culture if there if that’s helping them build people up um I’m interested to see after Ben Johnson what happens after that I had this conversation with E the

Other night um and he brought up a good point to where um I think it was Sean pyton that said that Dan Campbell reminds him um of an offensive Mike Vel yeah and and that’s what you want like Mike Vel is a great coach great coach

Puts on a like everything he does is great I think the only issue is is it’s not a defensive League anymore and and it’s turned to the offensive league so you have a guy like Dan Campbell who is just like Mike Vel when it comes to uh

Being on guys having that culture the grit but then at that same side he’s not the defense he’s an offensive minded coach so like when that transition with Ben Johnson a couple years ago happened Dan Campbell was in there helping Ben Johnson out he was in there working with

The offense he was helping call plays he was helping draw stuff up Ben Johnson started to give those plays and do his thing and that was when he got OC so would to act like Dan like when Ben leaves Dan’s going to be able to step up

And be like all right we’ve got our next guy here whether with tan or inren or whoever it is like Hey we’re going to have our next guy we’re going to he might not even be within the building right now but he’s going to know who he

Needs to hire next guys like Kyle Shanahan have done it continuously Shan or Shawn McVey has done it continuously that’s what you’re going to see in my opinion out of Dan Campbell except you’re going to have that grit side and that coaching side that’s I think what separates Dan Campbell from those guys

Not that anyone is better than the other that’s not the argument I’m having but he he’s a smart guy but he has so much self-awareness that he wants to put the smartest guys around he has no ego he he’s not he he’s not going to call plays because he’s pissed at the offensive

Coordinator he’s going to pass on those offensive coordinator duties to someone who can do it but you know I’m channeling Aubrey Pleasant last year offensive coordinator was the wrong example for this year but you know what I’m saying he he’s not looking to be the smartest person in the room he’ll put

Those guys around them yeah that’s what those great coaches do right now in the league all right let’s go to break when we come back we’re going to keep this thing rolling um we’re we’re going to stick with a little little bit of a lion

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Always and Nick in the sound booth Nick can we just get a quick update on the reding score 41 Winnipeg this is not a way we wanted it but wings are on a power play Let’s see if we skip one right here let’s get some momentum going we need it let’s do

It all right I I want to do this segment here real quick I put in here uh to talk about the NFL MVP we had the conversation a couple segments ago about jir Gibbs next year having that chance I think for him to have a chance

And and I want to go around the room to see who your guys’ MVP is right now I’m going to give you mine real quick and everyone in the chat drop in right now who you think the MVP in the NFL like if you had to vote today who do

You think wins it and I’m going to give mine are you guys ready for this one are we allowed to say the heavy favored guy that you say whoever you want whoever you want I’m going I’m going to go a little different here I’m going to go to

A guy who’s plus 1,000 to win the MVP I’m going to go Christian mcaffrey and and I get this this conversation I have a question if we need it then of Brock pie and all of that and I went back today cuz I I was interested cuz there’s

Like Brock p is the heavy favorite right now I went back and watch the Brock py film deserves it if you watch him play that man is out there balling out like he is playing very well but watch some of his passes like who gets the ball on

Some of those Christian mcaffrey who does he hand the ball off to Christian mcaffrey who right now has 20 total touchdowns and has a chance to beat the San Francisco record I believe it’s a Jerry Rice record Christian mcaffrey to me the most valuable player on that

49ers team if you took away Brock p and added Jimmy G back into there I think they still not maybe playing at that high level but they’re still out there winning football games and I think it’s because of a Christian mcaffrey type player when they made that trade last

Year that team took went to another level they would not be the Juggernaut right now they are without Christian mcaffry right now I think he’s truly their Most Valuable Player and that piece on that football team and and I think that kind of tunes into next year

D if you want a jir Gibbs to ever have a chance at MVP if you want all these other running backs ever have a chance a Justin Jefferson this is a year to where it’s like let’s respect G the game Christian mcaffry should be the one to

Get it and I was someone too last week who was on the Tyreek hill before Tyreek Hill got hurt I was on the Tyreek cuz he was that impactful as well I think most valuable player on some of these teams right now you saw Tyreek before his injury and Christian mcaffrey this year

Playing that running back position I forget who said it in the chat I remember was Edward or someone else but a question for later on or or another day does does a quarterback make the wide receiver does a wide receiver make the quarterback you know early on WE dep

And Jaylen brought it up in in the booth a couple weeks ago when when Jaylen Herz was leading in the MVP race and AJ Brown was playing well like is it Jaylen Herz or is it AJ Brown so for another time but I think the MVP is going to be

Decided on Christmas Day I think actually Christmas night I think it’s going to be one of the quarterbacks 49ers Ravens if I were to pick today I think like that I think the most valuable player to his team is Lamar Jackson I think that team is is a sub

500 if that team without him and right now they’re they’re 11 and three right they’re right there with the 49ers so that’s where I’m going to go big and’s great Point here 49ers lost three straight when Trent and Debo went out um when they were hurt where was py then

And py threw and two interceptions at the end of each game two of those losses uh to end the game it was not his best stretch of football it was not great so that’s that’s something to look at I I don’t hate that and I think that 49ers

Game too I think it come like caffy goes out there and puts up 200 allpurpose yards and two tou or something like that I think he jumps like before this weekend I will put a bet on Christian mcaffry plus a th by way you and I are

In the semis for uh Woodward sports fantasy football fun fact too yeah cuz we don’t quit we the very final week all this stuff happened in Woodward Sports the fantasy league Ryan Lance in the back shout out Lance makes the thumbnails does a great job when all this happened he just started trading

Guys for the best players in everyone’s team he guys ended up getting hurt on his team he was the number one seat and I was the dead last seat the last week of the season I beat him to get into the playoffs and then the next week I beat

Him in round one biggest upset in fantasy sports history kg who’s your MVP well um who I who I think it should be is Lamar I’m I’m with uh rer on that definitely but you got to give it to Brock right now but definitely Lamar

Does more for his team um I shout out Lindsay I know he wouldn’t agree uh with this but um I told him anybody can do that 49ers gig man like you can slot any quarterback in there they’re most likely going to have success not to take away

From what Brock py has done cuz for him to be a seventh round pick and do what he’s doing in that system he is flourishing absolutely I don’t think nobody expecting him to be the type of quarterback that we’re seeing like currently this season I had to see it at

Least for for another year before I believed it and he’s doing a damn good job but um like you said it’s probably going to come down to this 49 Ravens game who who ultimately wins it um I’m not mad at the CMC uh uh pick but you

Know they’re they’re going to give it to a quarterback so but yeah that would be my pick Lamar but right now it’s probably Brock bir did you guys see and Nick before you go here someone Ian e talked about it today someone went out and said that Brock py who did they

Compare him to they said he’s like today’s age um oh my gosh like Jared G I mean it’s simers was a 49ers quarterback Steve Young I think he said he was Steve Young or I think he said Steve Young right-handed though so we can’t we can’t compare left someone knows who he said

I’m John Ian e talked about it but it was really interesting to me Nick who’s your MVP I’m right there with broer that this is going to come down to Christmas Day nighttime game and I got the slip for Lamar and McCaffrey so I’m kind of double sorting but for the Lions and

Maybe just may be sneaking into that slight tinle TIY path with the one seed we need the Ravens to win this game let’s go Lamar Jackson gets it done in a big game against a stacked 49ers defense would be massive for my bat slip and the

Chances for the Lions to get that number one seed all right I apologize I should have known this cuz I watched some of the episode Jerry Rice said Brock pie reminds me a lot of Montana Joe Montana y his coolness and doesn’t get rattled his coolness that’s that Jerry Rice is

Saying that man he that’s High Praise got to respect that a little bit man Freddy felt Joe mon that is crazy any other MVP like uh I would say like sleepers you guys think cuz CMC was a sleeper to me is there anyone else been

Tyreek Hill for me but like you said he got hurt so yeah I mean if Dak goes out and has three games of his life I think dak’s done man I said if he has three good game like if he beats the Lions and and their other two games are big I

Don’t like d don’t get me but that’s a possibility Am I Wrong Am I Wrong no um random question though cuz you had that bet with easy top five for Jared gof if he gets a vote in the top five yeah um if he goes off the next three weeks say

He had like I know he had the five touchdown game if he in the next couple weeks say he goes out there and gets 10 touchdowns in in three games so what two or three a game two to three a game yeah do you think that Jared cough starts to

Sneak into like the top five conversation he’s got a chance to definitely get the one or two seed I don’t yes I I think it has to be at least the two seed this isn’t a Boer Slappy coming out either this is be they have that bet this is a instigator this

Is a real I did instigate last week I did not mean to but all good but but he like that’s the type of player it’s a quarterback who who’s got a story behind him leading the Detroit Lions to the playoffs for the first time in decades

Like they get the one or the two seed if he has de if you said a handful of more touchdowns another uh what would it be three three games another 650 750 yards you never know you never know top and remember it was just one vote for the top five yeah and

Biggins in here said if golf throws for 10 touchdowns and the lions are the one seed golf better be top five in the MVP votes I think he would just look just yeah yeah so that that’ll be interesting and if you be honest If he if he does

That he he has a potential of leading the NFL in touchdown passes as well which is crazy cuz he’s only I think three behind right now all right let’s break when we come back we’re going to get into mail back here everyone start dropping the questions anything you want

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Mailbag though at right now if you haven’t dropped some questions start dropping them in there um first one I have here big simy mailbag fantasy question who do you think is the better quarterback to start this week Joe flacko or Jared gof I’m going to answer that for you real quick Joe flacko

I who do they play Texans Texans but this what I’m going to I saw some Stats today um the Detroit Lions and the Vikings are both top five teams at stopping the run and I do know that like I get the DeMont and the offensive line

And the jir Gibbs I still think going on the road they’re going to have to be able to throw the ball and be able to get the ball in the air a little bit and you saw last week uh J Mo get involved Josh Reynolds back involved I I think

Jared gof is going to have another one of those 300 three touchdown two touch maybe like 300 two touchdown type games which in fantasy I think that’s kind of what you want over a Joe flacko an old Joe flacko so how about this David Whit mailback Sam Le Porter’s Rookie of the

Year odds what’s he got to do to sneak ahead of CJ strad who I think is the favorite think Sam has a shot won’t have like no chance like he would have to go off for like three touchdowns a game doesn’t play rest of season maybe CJ

Shot doesn’t so he’s got no more stats I think CJ’s out this week I think he’s in the concussion protocol so he’ll be back like next week CJ was just like minus 10,000 favorite yeah that’s what I’m saying like he would have to not play

Got you or throw eight picks a game how about this this is an interesting conversation but um from Eduardo O’Neal mailbag if you put golf in San Francisco are they having the same amount of success yes I think they’re very similar I think it’s like right there cuz Jimmy

G had success there like come on like I actually thought that the other day and I was like if the Lions do build like a 49er style team which they’re like on their way to doing that that’s like the conversation with golf to where it’s

Like if you don’t have to pay them a lot like I know the rookie contract helps a lot with Brock but like if he does take 30 like the franchise tag thing people were mixed up thought it was about 50 million when I went and looked it’s

About $36 million so if you do have to franchise tag him and and he’s willing to play through that if you’re paying him 36 against your cap that’s like 13th highest in the league when when that comes along um so I think that’s that 13

% rule we talk about with easy I think if you put him in San Fran right now I think it’s a similar thing going on he’d be a good fan in San Francisco yeah I I think it’s similar he also be a good fit with the Shawn Payton offense um just

Throwing that out Tyler CH how many lions players uh do you think will be in the NFL top 100 list uh next year that’s a good question pan St Brown I think and this is crazy Gibbs Gibbs will be in there leapa leaport Hutch ragn now wasn’t in it this year

Dumbest thing I’m going to keep him out I feel like they’re going to do it again so I’m going to say how CJ Garner ah he’s hurt I don’t know how let’s let’s do Frank ragn now let’s say six he’s the best center in football come on yeah

Let’s say six it was weird they kept him out this year though I don’t know why yeah yeah he was in it the year before too so I mean if he keeps going David Montgomery should be considered Alex alone should be considered yeah they’re just so picky with it I’m trying to be

Picky as well on if he has 12 sacks a couple Force fumbles 10 interceptions in the next three games iy mopu sneaks on there here we go hey kg I want to let you know we did at the beginning of the year we did our our All Pro uh we were

Like who do you think’s going to be all pro you know how tough it is to become an off absolutely I I came probably with two or three guys broer walked into to the show and he came in with about 13 dudes Jesus wait he came in like I think all these

Guys can get to it you 13 All Pro record well to be to be clear we’re going to tell the story the best things of all time it was I had written down all the possibility like like there were some that likely weren’t but it was like okay

Khif Raymond has a chance to be an all pro he was all pro he’s an all pro returner so think about you did bring like four offensive linemen that’s because they have four offensive linemen who could be all pro tell Jonah Jackson is a top 10 guard

He’s not going to be an all pro he abolutely not Taylor deer or Taylor Decker is not going to be this year it’s going to be p and Frank those are the only two like right now you can really potentially at the beginning of the Season fighting for one leaport is

Fighting I don’t even think leaport will get it but I think he’s fighting for one right now he’ll get one in the next in his first three years 100% right now it’s just like I mean it could go to any of those time I don’t know to be clear

Jonah Jackson has all pro potential potential he would have to have like a crazy year and like some guys would have to have some down years he would have to play all year sounds like a possibility I I don’t think that’s super crazy either yeah I don’t

Remember what we looked like in the Ravens game without him Lorena said uh oh I missed it will you ever have dmac on for some hockey talk we will do that once things get starting heating up here especially um when we do come towards the spring once the Stanley Cup Playoffs

Start coming around um dmac I did have actually I met uh Pat LaFontaine a couple of weeks ago and that’s a potential person as well we can have on um NHL Hall of Famer by the way as well so maybe we’re going to have some hockey

Guys come on in the next couple months as football winds down uh let’s see what else do we have here Boer can you get hair this Eduardo can you get hair styling tips from Hollywood Jeff um I don’t know I don’t know Jeff does he does have some I still think my

Hair is the best at Woodward so no jail no nothing you throw under in that you just just waking up birth it depends depends on the day some days I I’ll take just a little bit just boom just so it like it gets a little

Texture in it you know cuz I have to go into an office and work so if I have it down it looks like I woke up just woke up yeah so yeah no do the chicks dig the the business in the front party in the back from what I’ve heard the last

Couple weeks yes uhoh everyone I’ve asked and said hey thoughts on this I’ve got a bunch of yeses I can’t wait till it grows like like you’re well on your way it’s it’s a good style as when can you guys tell in the chat that I have a little bit of a mullet

Can can they can they tell let me get in on you yeah there we go it’s a little easier on the side straight on it doesn’t look as much yeah a little bit of a m there’s two Boer paths right there on his head you trying to get the

Jared Allen uh mullet or like Jared Allen has like that straight hair doesn’t he have like the straight hair yeah I don’t know about that I don’t know if I can do the straight hair one you get the getting me hard JB I’ll get a one of those things that make your

Hair curly maybe I’ll do that you get a perm you get the Rick James hairstyle from uh from Chappelle Show Rick James James you might look like the one guy off Pat McAfee uh I I can’t remember when I said I was getting a mullet I was

Think I think his name is I think his name is Con yeah when I said I wanted to get a mullet and the people were like get a mullet I asked someone off camera I was like do you think I could get one as

Good as his and and I got a yeah I think at the most recent comment most recent I don’t agree with it Boer what is it which one he looks a exo screens what’s wrong with that he’s driving a Subaru what’s wrong with that how’s the softball team doing come on

Man um let’s do one more here oh shout out Phil in the chat he said I has great hair so you know Phil’s a man shout out shout out kg to the real kg if you need some dreads man I can I can L some so I

Might need some might hey real quick in here too s away Harry said can the Pistons beat the record of losing 26 games in a row Pistons will do that I I can’t see them winning another Thursday is their best chance to win they have the Utah Jazz at home they’re going to

Lose also by the way the guy who said that comment he just came back and said it looks fire thank you I appreciate ity this is my first one like the first haircut the first installment there’s a long ways to go I don’t know how long

I’ll keep it and keep doing it um but we’ll see how it goes hey we appreciate you guys all tuning in shout out Nick shout out kg shout out brothery broom Anthony broom shout out Anthony broom hopefully we can get him out next week the preview of the college football

Playoffs we will be back tomorrow um I’m going to work on trying to get a a Vikings beat reporter as well I’ll reach out to Mt see if we can do that uh great show make sure you guys tune in tomorrow 8:00 a.m. morning Woodward show uh 10

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