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And now weighing in out of the blue Corner Josh the Thompson 100% And on the other mik he ways in from the Red Corner Big John McCarthy yes yeah I’m doing your part right there going big Josh McCarthy big Josh McCarthy you wish you were name
Mcth you would have done so much better your entire career would have been a shot what’s McCarthy what is that like a SC Irish name don’t yes it is Irish name yeah dude McCarthy Castle it’s in Ireland you need to go to it it’s where the Blarney Stone is at yeah I’ve been
Told that Thompson is a Scottish name and we [ __ ] had William Wallace so you had will hold hold hold hold hold it so you know you had William walls and they took him and dismembered him it’s all right but he was he was Legend freedom [Applause]
Freedom oh yeah then guess what that led to more [ __ ] daes what the hell oh Merry Christmas every what you’re saying is you I love and podcast Dave are related no no no you’re like brothers like the little brother never wanted but then as my Italian side and
And Josh is Mexican say I don’t know if they get along so yeah well it’s like I said the little brother I never wanted but then then you realize that like you know you you’re paying for him then it’s like the son you never wanted it’s like
No I love this guy man he’s a pain on my butt but we’ve been it’s so funny you know John when we started before you and I were doing the show together I was doing a show with another guy and man the three of us used to get into it
Mainly he Dave used to get into it with Sammy and they would get into it back and forth and I was like man it should drive me crazy but it was just it was funny at times and but also funny but then Dave and I would get into it too
And I’m like God I can see I can see why Sammy has a hard time with you and then and then and then we started doing the show the three of us thank you all right I want to hear this part and John had John had a hard time with them to a
Little bit and I was like maybe maybe I had to figure Dave out yes cuz see what people don’t know about our podcast Dave he is one of the he’s he’s a button Pusher but in a in a internet oh yeah text Savvy way he’ll say things at times
That I’ll now I’ll have to look at it and go is he oh he’s he’s being A’s just trolling You trolling man look at him go right so I have fun with it now but in the beginning I was like what the [ __ ] is wrong with this dude he’s this dude
Is absolutely the stupidest human being on the face of the planet man he’s hysterical and then you realize I was a genius and then now you get it oh no I I want I want everyone to know if you you guys if you guys enjoy this podcast you
Guys been listening to us from the beginning okay I deserve all the credit for holding this podcast together it was just man it was so it wasn’t funny at the time but man I was talking both one of you at one time off of a cliff it was hilarious but it’s
Been it’s been worked out we do now understand each other’s um SAR off a cliff sarcasm okay hold on I had to actually what as we started today before you actually got on I get on because you know I always wait for Dave to do his
Thing because I I don’t want to get big and then have to go off just weird it’s a weird thing with my system but John John you need to clarify those comments there you got just be for day to get big well Dave when you got when you do your
Thing you do your thing when you get anyway Dave gets big I come back on okay so as we were talking as we were talking yesterday through text kind of you know because I’m working and looking at my phone every now and then and the texts
Were coming in as far hey when are we you want to do the show you know we were gonna do it yesterday and then no you know things and Dave put out the one of the texts was and he says well I can do it at between this time and this time
Six and seven I can do it at this but but you know Tanya’s got this at this right and I was just so I I was just being a SM I was being a date I was coming back saying well I can do it at
This time or this time but Babs is gonna have a party at this time but so and so’s gonna have a party at this time then I then I I looked at it afterwards you I said it I was just being a smartass and then I thought I hope he
Doesn’t take me serious no no you know so first thing I said hey I hope you didn’t take that one serious he goes no no I actually thought he was talking to you I thought I thought you were he thought he was talking to you yeah I go
Can’t even win no but I was just Dave has the talking texting of a troll like when he’s sometimes messing with you and it’s hilar it can be hilarious it can be frustrating but at the same time this is what makes it this is what makes us
Laugh later on like when we say when people say you’ll laugh about it later this is what we’re doing right now we’re laughing about what we’re laughing about the first four years together um man it’s been um you know I just back from California we were over there uh
Visiting family and everything and I got to be honest John this was the first time this is the third time I’ve been back you know um first couple times was for some other stuff uh some work stuff one time and then for a work trip the work event Christmas party whatever it
Was this time was the first time I drove through from San Jose up to like near San Francisco in South City area there and I was driving back in the morning after I had a uh like a um physio appointment like a physical therapist appointment because of my my CPI it’s
For the injections I got for the stem cells so they have doing like some light uh uh therapy so I’m driving back I drive down first at like 6:00 in the morning because the appointment’s at like 715 so so it’s dark so it’s dark I’m driving down two
Accidents hour and a half tookes me least an hour and a half to get there it’s about an hour it’s about 45 for a 50-minute drive anyway as I get there I’m just show up right on time I’m like okay good thing I left early then as
Soon as we get done the appointment’s done around 8:00 and I got I get I get like a snack of food I drive back well traffic’s going that way now at that time in the morning takes me almost an hour and 45 minutes to get back home and
I’m in the car driving back and I’m going I don’t miss this at all I don’t miss I don’t miss look I miss I miss my friends that’s you know that’s one thing you’re going to miss your family and your friends and it’s funny cuz I was
Driving to the car and the person I was driving driving with she goes as we drive past this Reservoir and it’s got beautiful like mountains where Santa Cruz on the other side and half moon Bays on the other side it’s beautiful it’s got like the fog coming off the
Reservoir water it’s amazing right beautiful 20 something years me and this person have been driving past this [ __ ] this Reservoir never once as she said this is beautiful because there’s no trees there’s no mountains there’s I mean we don’t live near water outside of like the there’s like Pond big ponds in our
Community and the water comes off the fog comes off the water you know but it’s not the same just not the same and um so there’s things that like that I miss though I’ve always enjoyed seeing views you know whether it’s like the beach the mountain the sand dunes
Whatever it is you know golf whatever it is um I love the I love the golf but it’s people think I love the golf because and like most people think that the people love to golf um because they love to play golf and that’s not true I
Don’t really love to play golf I don’t like to walk 19 holes I or 18 holes I don’t like 19 holes to the bars well you do walk to the 19 H is the bar um but no I don’t I don’t really like I go there
For the views man like some of the scenery you can see on a golf course is absolutely amazing and when you get into certain courses that are really taken care of and stuff I mean I know you’re not supposed to but I’ll just I’ll I’ll take my shoes off and walk Barefoot and
I’ll play the whole I’ll play the course Barefoot I [ __ ] love it man it’s so much big old Flintstone feet I do have Flintstone feet I do the only person I’ve ever met that has like more Flintstone feet than me like mine are like I don’t have big feet we size 11 11
And a half I don’t have big feet but they’re wide wide but the only guy I’ve ever met was freaking uh benenson Henderson Bon Henderson he’s got Flintstone feet big those things man geez that’s what I don’t I don’t know yeah I don’t know if it’s how hard he
Kicks or if it’s just the weight of those things just like a brick coming down on your like a tree like just a tree stump um but that’s it’s the one thing with and I love California and it’s it’s a gorgeous state in a lot of places but
The part that was why I left was traffic you know time time is the most valuable thing you have yeah people don’t realize it especially when you’re young but it is the most valuable thing you have and how you spend it is important and when you’re spending it
Sitting on a concrete strip with a bunch of cars around you and you can’t move and it takes you basically three to four more hours than it should for you to get from point A to point B that’s when I said I’m done yeah and now I don’t sit
In traffic ever yeah and it’s like yep my my wife just the other day we were driving she goes Isn’t it nice just to know you can just drive and you’re never going to really hit traffic and if you hit an accident you either get out and
Help or it’s already taken care of are you sure that’s just not cuz there’s no roads where you are now yeah that’s only exactly where I live it’s dirt now you you may you may hit a cow or a pig or something cross the road you could
Hit a cow dude I tell you you hit a cow man you’re going [ __ ] up your vehicle yes this is true this is true did you see that video going online this guy like pulls up to a moose on the and the Moose is I don’t know where they were at
They seemed like don’t [ __ ] with moose and he pulled up and he rolls down the oh you big he starts talking like he’s a real man’s man to to the Moose oh you think you’re tough think you’re tough H move out of the way moose that moose
Will [ __ ] him up that thing took two steps back boom flat tire started cracking up cuz his wife was just telling him don’t mess with it D and he’s like oh you think you’re tough moose huh think you’re tough big guy I’ll get out this and smack you and
Then it takes two steps back and boom HS his car plotting his tire the guy’s like oh [ __ ] and he turns the phone off CU he’s videoing it I thought I was hilarious dummy um I’ve legit seen a moose like there was a like a semi not a semi a
Duly and he was there’s this little back Ro that used to go to my dad’s property up in Idaho he was in the middle of the road there was a line of maybe like 15 cars behind it we were stuck you know nothing we could do people don’t realize
How big they are they’re enormous enormous this thing is in the middle of the road just looking right at the car the duy nudges up and then he nudges it to try to get it to move off the road that thing took two three steps back and
Just [ __ ] kept hitting the the car until he pushed it off the road kept hitting the car until he pushed off the road I was like holy [ __ ] I never thought they were that I knew they were strong I was like oh it’s too tall it’s
Never going to be able to get the leverage to get no oh no he just pushed the front end of it that that duy went from here just like to the front end was off of the uh was off of the road and then people just drove around his car
Like you idiot okay this is like this kind of if you have animals if you’re a farmer or some you understand how minute your strength is comparatively right because you know it’s like I I just went and got a you know a donkey from some people and
Stuff and so had a have a baby donkey and the mom well the mom doesn’t know me and stuff so I’m trying to get it in the trailer right man I’ll tell you what you know put the whole when that when that donkey decided I’m not moving she wasn’t
Moving when I when I when I’m sitting there I’m petting her I put my arm around her her neck right and I’m petting her right she decides to raise up her head I was off the ground you know you know it’s amazing how strong animals are we are so weak in
Comparison you know it’s not even close it’s crazy you know I I used to have a little Bulldog his name was mcloven and he just he I remember him he everywhere but I mean you don’t real like just that little guy I mean when he decided he
Couldn’t run when he couldn’t walk or run anymore he would just sit and then when you try to like pull him a little bit to give him like a nudge come on hop up he was like nope there was just nothing he was you know and we took care
Of ours like he had a small waistline like he was not overweight or anything he was just they Bulldogs are stubborn you know you’ve had Bulldogs before Oh yes and they’re the best most lovingest dogs they don’t listen for [ __ ] they’re stubborn as hell they they make a mess
They blow their nose everywhere they they they sleep with their head upside down and their tongue on their eyes all they do is fart this is true they run through you just can hear it everywhere they go and then they just look at you like did you
Hear that yeah not only did I hear it I got the other end of it too well like back to San Jose like we just it was one of the things like I just realized I’m like when you’re when you’re staying with family or you’re staying with
Friends you also feel a little bit like it’s an inconvenience and so it kind of makes you want to get out of the house to you know and then you’re being encouraged like you guys can’t stay longer and I’m like I can see the looks
On your faces like it’s not it’s hard as as a grown man having people that stay in your house for longer than say like two three days it’s like okay like one day two day especially when the kids are around They’re all playing having a great time it’s great there’s moments
Where you just need even when you have your own space it’s like you don’t really have your own space and you just you have that feeling of all right I just want to get to my house I just want to get home and you know and you may you miss the family and
The friends a lot but it’s like there you just comes a point where like you said time is the most important thing and spending time with your your whether wife and kids or you know whoever you live with whatever it is your partner whatever is it’s up to you it just um it
Feels good feels good just be relaxed you know and uh I got laid in bed I just laid on the couch watch some TV and feed up and the Christmas tree on I was like this is nice fireplace going felt good John to be home felt good you go all
Right well hey we we got a lot of fight announcement that Dana came up with what yesterday I believe right was it yesterday or the day before but I think it was yesterday he was trying to cram them all in before Christmas and uh he came up
With some good ones man came with some real good ones so we thought we’d run through that and then we’re going to have a midweek show we are going to have a Wayne in Awards uh before New Year’s for the 2023 year so John and I will do
It we’re going to pick a couple categories we’re going to talk about we’re not going to do like a full you know all this other stuff craziness yeah craziness but we will we will do a panel and uh we’ll throw one or two in there
That are fun um and then um so no MMA Clos line of the Year Clos [Laughter] line well if uh if riddle does come back to fight we can just put him right in there oh I like that there we go he’s got a I think he’s got does he have a
Pretty good clothes line there Dave uh they all don’t they all all right they all do they all do all right well then uh we’re going to talk about these fights and then John and I are going to do something special for you guys we’re going to do it thing called Matchmaker
We’re going to put together just a just a five card fight that um that we’d like to see maybe we’ll start doing this little thing uh maybe once a month you know where we can kind of just throw something in that’s we talk about the
Fights that could be made and um that we would like to see that are in the top 10 or in the top whatever it is but a five card fight if I was to stack and make like hey what could my fight oh now you’re changing it up we were saying I
Thought we were doing we were going to do three from the UFC three two or three from the pfl okay of ones that are coming and stuff we can’t put those all in the same card because then we’re doing what we said we weren’t going to do and that’s cross
Promote can’t do that okay okay so do you want to do a five-fight card just for the UFC and then a five fight card for all right that sounds good we’ll do that okay we can do that okay so we’ll do that that means I actually have to
Think now jeez damn I need to do research is what I got to [Laughter] do oh um all right well hey Dave what else you got for us or not what else you got for what do you have for us what do you want to start off with okay leave
The show buddy come on yeah let’s start with the first fight announcement yay Rodriguez versus Brian oer is going to be a five round colan and Mexico City well is IID like to say is that you know everyone this is a rematch love oh man John and I were joking about
It after I was like I was like wait John have they fought before and then John goes yeah they have and I’m like I poke right and goes no dummy and I’m like just start going on I’m like I I I don’t recall it being like that good of a
Fight though like it wasn’t long or anything right what happened then he’s like shoulder dummy so I’m like that’s right that’s right so that’s why Brian’s been out for so long uh all right well hey uh before we get started on this first matchup though make sure you guys subscribe to us down
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Talking about is we got podcast Dave he’s at work and then there’s the two bums right that are you and I yeah assessment nice assessment thank you very much see Dave ni I’m on your side now John how do you think this fight’s going to
Go oh man I’ll tell you what you you take a look at uh this fight it was going in in a fashion you yeah gone to the ground you would never think you know a lot of people were going to sit there and say oh it
Was a submission you know it wasn’t a submission he went to pull his arm out the the shoulders separated [ __ ] happens that’s part of the human anatomy I’m not saying that Yer didn’t have something possibly to do with it kind of maybe but this is a fight where you really didn’t
Get to see what was gonna happen the the one thing that you saw was the fight could end up on the ground because the real thing you’re looking at is in the standup look at Brian Ortega is a tough mean hre bastard who I’ve known him since the start of his career
And I love him and uh he is a great person his standup has gotten better and better but y’s standup is dynamic and his standup is so uh fluid in the way that he goes about it and you you have got to take him out of his comfort zone now he’s not
Bad on the ground but he’s not as good as Brian Ortega on the ground so they both have their strengths you know both are good well-rounded Fighters the real question is you know can Brian put yayer in a position where he’s uncomfortable he’s got to do that and he’s got to put
Him on the ground for it to be a fight that I think that he can win because if it’s on the feet I look at Yer Rodriguez basically just you know just putting shots on Brian and making it a difficult night the fight’s got to end up on the ground with Brian
Ortega in control of the positions of that fight for him to get the win that’s the way I look at it I would say yes normally I would probably agree with every little assessment that you just made where is Yer mentally though after that last
Fight that’s a good you know it is a good question and it’s one of those he’s not riding the high he’s coming off of a low and one that he did not perform like he believed he could against that person yeah I mean at his age the motivation is
There I know that it could have he’s been able to perform under the bright lights but there’s a difference when you step in there for a title shop for a real title shop for that yeah you know to uh become the man there’s a difference like everything it seems like man this is
Everything I’ve worked for you need the opportunity didn’t perform and to have that over him coming into this fight knowing that Brian’s beatable that he can beat him if he a good fight I don’t he doesn’t need to fight a perfect fight he just needs to fight a good fight he’s
Got good takedown defense he’s got great standup he mixes it up very well Brian is um very uh susceptible to being hit we’ve seen him when he fought Max hallway we’ve seen with other guys you know um he he gets hit he’s open up yeah
Wowski he he gets he opens up a lot when he strikes and he gets he gets hit clean he’s got a great chin he can take a shot um we’ve seen he’s a dog he’s someone that will stay in the fight no matter what he chooses not to try and and get
Out of there I guess when I’m looking at this fight I’m going to look at it from a different a couple different ways okay one of the ways is Brian or take a can stand with him but he’s got to fight him more in a foam Booth he’s got to put
That pressure keep Yer on the back foot Yer still can fight he fights y’s probably one of the best guys off of his back foot he gets up he gets the head kicks up real fast okay the little kick to the thigh and the calf very good like
He’s very good at fighting off his back foot he can handle the pressure he circles out very well all of those things he’s got great cardio in the last fight it looked like he just had a hard time dealing with the actual title fight pressure he doesn’t have that pressure
Now I think you’re going to see the old Yer back but I would like to say that Brian can stand with him in spurts and he can if he pressures him will make it uncomfortable Brian I think he’s got the power though though too if he starts
Landing a little bit on him Yer may start kind of not second guessing but he might start he might start thinking about if this is going the way that the last his last fight went it’s easy to start thinking about that oh man do I
Still have it oh man I know he’s young I know he’s still young but those thoughts Believe It or Not Fighters start questioning themselves in that cage when you comeing off of a loss you don’t I don’t want to lose two in a row he’s thinking about that there’s a lot that
Goes through his mind John you know that it’s part it’s part of Being Human it’s just you know the human mind goes in and people think that oh you’re so focused on everything you’re thinking sometimes about thoughts that have nothing to do with what you need to be thinking about
Right now yeah and it’s yeah you’re right I agree with you in that if I if I’m Brian Ortega I need to put him on his back foot I need to fight within a boxing range taking away the kicks of Yer because he’s got Dynamic
Kicks as much as I can and just with my placement and my footwork but y Rodriguez fights well on the inside still you know a lot of people don’t give him credit he can fight at distance he can fight on the inside you know take
A look at just even you know when people are closing space on him he does damage look at what happened with the Korean zombie in that upward elbow and that was a fight he was losing there was no doubt he was losing that fight and that last second elbow that was done in
Tight he’s dangerous but this fight on the ground it’s I look at it I know I agree Brian Ortega’s got heads and heads and uh shoulders above him in terms yeah above him in in terms of the ground but y’s no slouch off of his back and he’s no slouch when he’s on
Top either but he we saw in the last fight he threw up that triangle and started attacking aggressively on Brian I think that kind of gave Brian a little bit of a reality check like oh he’s not afraid of me on the ground he’s okay
With you know mixing it up with me on the ground but I look at the same way that you look at Brian on the feet the same way we look at Brian on the feet he’s got to do it in spurts he can’t allow himself to just hang out on the on
The ground or Brian’s gonna tear him up y’s gota make his submissions you know look for his submissions yeah look for his sweeps and his submissions and then look to get back to his feet and circle and get away you know and when he circles to get away he’s got to make
Brian pay so as he’s circling out he’s got to make sure that he’s uh that he’s making Brian uh respect him I Circle boom throw a little leg kick boom as I Circle through the right hand head kick whatever it is to keep his hands loyal to his chin because otherwise Brian’s
Gonna Keep just rushing after him and walking him down and trying to land the big shot so I want to see where Yer is mentally which I think he’s going to be back on track understanding like man just wasn’t my night and it showed when he came out he wasn’t fighting his style
Of fight it showed that it wasn’t his night and then with Brian my concern with Brian is is a legit concern is that in his last what say can you pull up his record in his last I think four fights he’s dealt with a lot of injuries
And a lot of big like a lot of big uh big time fights but there we go he’s only won one in his last four Max Holloway Alex and yayer all three studs that he’s lost to don’t me wrong and then he beat Frankie before that yeah only once a year too that’s
What I’m concerned about is the inactivity and then on top of it it’s not inactivity in let me just take some time and you know rest and train and this no no no it’s inactivity from injuries or from I think he broke his his orbital in the max fight he he did
Not fight oh yeah he did not fight in 2023 you know so did not fight it’s a long it’s a long time off I’m I’m excited to have him back but when he comes back he’s only fighting every time he comes back he’s only fighting the
Best guys which I I give him credit for but you sometimes need a fight that you can you can get yourself back into the rhythm of of training and flow you can breathe okay let me get this win I got this win and but a lot of that has to do
With John with one thing with the not just the UFC with one thing with your promoter is you’re having to fight all the best guys maybe you want it and a lot but it’s it has to do with the money they must be paying you really well if
They’re giving you if they keep continuing give you the number one Contender every single time yeah but it puts him in a position to fight for the title again Brian Ortega the other thing he’s got to really you know you’ve got to take into consideration this is being fought in
Mexico City that’s 7,000 feet up you better get your ass to Mexico City about a month before that fight and get yourself prepared for that elevation if you don’t it’s G to have an effect on the fight yeah K Velasquez know you know that’s a guy that you know
Everyone looked at that’s a cardio monster and he is I’m not going to it it doesn’t change it’s the location changed and you could see the effect that was the that the not the last time the first time I ever saw yier was uh was in
Mexico City he came out he exploded onto the scene with all this flying stuff had a great fight that was the same C that Eddie Alvarez and G mes fought Gilt mes that it was um because that was they had the Latin America uh tough okay and yer was one of
The finalists in that yeah yeah yeah and um man I was like man this kid’s everywhere I was like holy [ __ ] he was everywhere uh no great cardio but that I’ve noticed that the fighters that normally have great cardio are the ones that struggle at altitude yeah and because they’re because they’re they’re
Not used to that yeah yep it’s that P push they’re used to just being able to push through the the fatigue and when we had Kane if you guys haven’t seen we had Kane on recently probably about I don’t know what a month and a half ago we had him
On and um he talked about his experience and and that type of ser he’s like I just got back to the corner after the first round he’s like I was just dead just dead no feeling like my I couldn’t lift my arms I couldn’t I was dead water
Like they gave me water in my mouth and just poured right out just well it’s just something that you as you know as someone like K you are unfamiliar with that while someone else might be familiar with it because that’s just the way they normally are
When you’re unfamiliar with it it has an effect I mean and it’s like what’s wrong with me yeah what’s wrong with you is you’re not getting as much oxygen yeah and and when I went back and talked to Gilbert after that fight and I talked because he fought Eddie Alvarez on that
Card the two of them that card both Eddie and him looked exhausted after like a round it was just they were they came out slinging and then it just they just the F the fight just started fading there wasn’t a lot of activity and everyone’s like man it’s got to be the
Altitude and I always wondered why do why do promotions even bother why why even bother doing shows in you want to know why H here here here’s the truth and I’ve always said this and it’s just you know it has nothing to do with whatever promoter it is oh we want to go
There that’s because you’re not fighting that’s cuz you’re not having to deal with where you want that fight to be it’s a [ __ ] oh you know I don’t care who you are man it is has a significant impact on the fights yeah yeah it actually does and sometimes the impact
Is so much that the fight doesn’t end up being good yeah which sucks because like a fight like this you hope it ends up being good which I think it will I’ve yet to see Brian in a boring ass fight you know the guy just he fights his ass
Off so I’m looking forward to this fight this rematch of course this rematch thank you very much I’m glad you pointed that out to me and De John we didn’t even talk about the fact that it’s five rounds oh that is true because it’s a co-main because the main is gonna be uh
Brandon Marino and albazi Y and so the fact that they made this they they looked at and said hey this has got to be a five round five I agree with them again I may not agree if it’s in Mexico City but it does need to be a five round
Fight these guys are of that level and uh it it’s too short to have it as a three- round fight I don’t I know that sounds weird but it really is well the only reason why I think it should be a five round fight is because it should be a
Title Eliminator whoever fights whoever wins this fight should fight for the title I know Yer just got a shot but I think he should I think there should he’s right there still yeah he’s still right there and I think if Brian beats Yer I think he should get a title shot
Both of them so whoever wins gets a gets a title shot after um who’s fighting next for the title against uh Tor vki if Toria wins and beats vul then you know yeah would end up fighting torya no because you know what’s gonna happen they’re G do a rematch automatic rematch
Absolutely and hold on you gotta you gotta look and say we say it all the time yeah you know it depends on that’s a situation with vulcanos yeah he deserves it if he lost to Toria he would deserve that rematch I think if vulgan noski lost to Toria he
Should take about six months off andjoy but he won’t he he won’t but I I feel like he should take six months off come back invigorated you know just kind of that excitement to be back in the in the in the training room excitement to be back inside the cage give your brain
Some time to heal those kind of things you know do a bunch of mushrooms all that stuff so said uh all right what else you got for us Dave all right next fight here we got the third attempt to Paul Costa versus Robert wer it is a third attempt and I I
I think this is a great matchup I’ve said it before I thought you was I was upset when it fell apart you know the couple times before but they keep on trying to put this back so someone recognizes that this could be a hell of a fight it really depends on which
Robert Whitaker comes if it’s the guy that does look for takedowns or time or if it’s the guy that is always just I’m good being on the feet I’m not sure that that’s the fight you want to be in with Paulo Costa you know people can say
Whatever they want about Costa he has proven he is he’s got a chin he can take big shots he’s he’s got power he’s got speed he does get a little tired in that third round that’s you know that’s happened you know in the past and stuff
But this right now if you’re Paulo cost you take a look at those two times that they had this fight scheduled and now looking at Robert Whitaker you’re going Now’s the Time Now’s the Time yeah I think you’re right uh Paula hasn’t fought though since uh Luke
Rockold correct because he pulled out of a fight in between was it this fight that he pulled out of I thought it was another fight that he pulled out of no it was wasn’t it him and Strickland chamaya Cham oh that’s right that’s right um
This fight on the feet could be a fun fight I think Whitaker may try to get a couple takedowns but I don’t think he’s going to shoot raw dog and just be out there just trying to shoot to get the fight to the ground I think he’s gonna
Get into the exchanges when they get too close he’ll try to get the taked down from there on the feet I think the kicks to the calf kicks and all those things from Whitaker will lead to some good standup exchanges he just got to be very careful in that first round Paul Casa
Got a lot of power he’s got power in the second and the third but the activity is not there much yeah and look look when you’re approaching somebody like a apoc Costa the way you approach them is it’s dangerous but you approach them as in a automatic pressure try to make them
Fight off their back foot make them use energy even when they’re not fighting and Rob wher has the fight IQ to do this he can make him Miss make him pay keep him on the back foot make him circle make him do all the things to make him uncomfortable which burns more energy
Even without him throwing punches and then when he does explode he he explodes because he feels that pressure oh you’re getting too close it’s like a dog that’s like sitting back in the corner just waiting and waiting he’s just angry and getting mad you’re getting too close
He’s growling at you he’s barking at you he’s doing all these things and finally he has to Lunge at you and snap at you he uses a lot of energy how lions are pretty much you know they wait they wait they wait and then they explode and then
Obviously Lions don’t hunt for very long if they don’t get their prey they don’t get their prey that’s how I feel like when I watch PA Costa fight that’s how he is he waits and he waits and he waits and then he explodes a little bit like
Yo yoel Romero he waits and waits and waits and then he explodes and he use a lot of a lot of energy and then he tries to wait for his tank to fill back up again before he can go and get another piece of the action Robert Whitaker’s
Got to put that uncomfortable pressure against him you know in that first round and make him use as much energy as can because kind of like how my career went was the first round I normally lost and had to win rounds two and three I feel
Like that’s the way he’s got to approach this fight uh Robert Whitaker he’s gotta take chances in the first maybe give up the first round okay but second and third he’s got to really pour it on he’s got to make him fight you gotta make him
Uh wrestle he’s got to make him do everything in his power to make it a full MMA fight and then I think he’ll start to start start maybe to pull away because you look in that luk rockold fight John he was tired he was exhausted like Luke was both of them were
Exhausted it was in Utah also yes this is correct this is correct it wasn’t Utah so um I think if he fights if Whitaker fights him that way I think he can have a successful night yeah but it’s a great great fight I can’t wait so next one
Dave uh yo prasa and Alexander raki at UFC 300 is this the main event no no come on oh sorry UFC 300 I didn’t I’m sorry I was just thinking something I was thinking this was like a Fight Night Main Event this might not even be on the main card shut your [ __ ]
With that nonsense I’m telling you man there is no way they are not going to have this fight on the main card watch you watch John these guys are both they’re first off they’re what 205 Pounders yes heavier guys always get the nod okay the lighter guys will miss they
Won’t be on the [ __ ] main card Dam by this fight will be on the main card I’m going with Dana what Dana has said you’re gonna see guys ex Champions people first fight of the prelims yep the way spinning it makes it sound like we’re going to have five title fights in
The main card that’s the way he’s wor that’s the way he’s kind of sitting that’s a four that’s a five hour night that’s a long night it’s a long night that’s a five hour main card night people are not they’re going to lose interest no he’s he’s not stupid he’s
Not stupid we did we tried to do four right for Bellator yep and it fell apart that didn’t work and I got to be honest I was glad it fell apart John because it just once you realize four title fights if they all five or all five all four Go
The Distance will all four all five go man we’re in real trouble yeah if all four Go the Distance they all go five rounds your crowd I mean depending on the fight it could end up being your crowd just ends up getting restless and people at home end up getting wrestless
And so but this fight I think this is a tough fight for racket coming racket coming back off of the knee injury yes and but especially coming back with someone as awkward yeah as Yuri because no matter how much you watch Yuri he’s not the same guy he was the
Fight before he has some little tendencies that are the same but he’s not the same he spinning backfish he’ll do two spinning backfish back Tob back he’ll you know he’ll try to wrestle one fight and some fights he’ll just try and stand I mean like you never know what
You’re gonna get I mean that’s what makes him fun and entertaining but y I’ve always I always thought because I’d never seen raki really get he got pushed in a couple fights but I haven’t seen him with somebody that I think that could get him off track I was looking at
Rack could kind of being the next the next per he’s a he’s got tall he’s long he’s built like a Greek god like he uh he’s got a great he’s got a great fighting style he’s slick on the feet I think this this is one of those fights
Where this could be his coming out party if he hasn’t lost the step he’s been out for a year and a half 18 18 months it’s been a while it’s been a while but uh I I like this fight a lot I do like it I
Just want to know if we’re going to get the somewhat of the same guy we saw when he was leaving because he was operating at a very high level when it’s a tough fight to come back on from a long layoff because you’re looking at fighting a guy
Who was just in you know well he was the champion gave up the title then came back lost it to you know the his attempt to regain it from Alex but man it’s a tough fight tough fight I mean how does your like John how you gotta give me
More than that man you can’t we can’t let our fans just walk away with just that it’s a tough fight it’s just a tough fight give me more how does Yuri get it done how does stand standup wise I look at raki he’s the more he’s obviously the more technically smooth
Standup fighter not that Yuri’s not smooth he’s just he does things that are unorthodox and he he he fights out of a kind of a bladed karate stance a lot but it’s his ability to control that range by that awkwardness and unorthodox style so what happens with many fighters with
Them is they stop they you know all of their offensive production becomes they wait because they’re waiting to counter him and they wait too long and then he they get hit and their counter doesn’t doesn’t either go off or it doesn’t you know land on its Mark and he just starts
Taking those shots and putting them on you and more and more and they just start adding up if I look at the ground Yuri’s a lot better on the ground than people understand he’s actually he’s got great top position off of his back he’s not
That good but on the ground in the top position he’s got a hell of a base he’s hard to move and he can control a lot of Fighters and raki is not one that I think is going to be able to just get up from him it’s going to be
Tough for him to get up so he’s got to be careful about getting taken down now Yuri sometimes will go for takedown sometimes won’t you just never know but he will work out of the clinch and when he works out of the clinch his clinch work is actually damn good he throws
Good sharp elbows he throws a lot of knees to the legs which just slows down his opponent he’s very systematic in the way he approaches breaking down his opponent raki has got to in my opinion be offensive he’s got to be the lead don’t wait if you’re wait on Yuri you’re
Probably going to end up second best so you’ve got to be the lead be the person that goes out there make him have to deal with what you want to do that was much better than this is a great fight thank that was much better
Man I’m I gotta sometimes pull it out of you well it’s it’s one of those it’s hard to you know I feel bad for rakic in the fact that he’s coming off a knee injury anytime you come off of a knee injury even after you’ve been in practice
You always worry about that first kick the first time that you shoot you have to drive off of it all those things it’s just like is it is it gonna be there and then when it is it kind of sets you free a little bit but he’s got that going
He’s got a long layoff going and he’s got the fact that he’s fighting an unorthodox guy who is tough so you know Dave can you pull up the like the two of them and the side by side I want to see like the reach I want to see the height
Racki I I feel like is the taller longer fighter but they are no he’s not he’s definitely not taller they’re about right about the same around the same yeah I just feel like when I see R last time I last time I saw racki in there he
Got hurt but I’m saying that he seemed like he was the a lot bigger than his opponent that he was fighting I or just bodywise they’re both close to like 6’4 man that’s as far as yeah I’ll get this right now yeah no worries no
Worries um but I I look at I look at ra working hard right now yeah I look at raki though too they I think the UFC understands what they have with him they looked like they were kind of putting him in that his last fight who did he
Lose to his last fight was it who which one raki I was going Yan oh Yan it was Yan yep Yan okay because it look I want to say it looked like he was uh getting ready to be set up for a title shot if
He won that fight I think that he was seated number five I think four or five at the time yeah was right in there yeah he was right in that mix so for them to even start considering you into that mix normally there’s been some sort of contract negotiation that says hey we
Want to make sure we have you locked for about five fights six fights somewhere in there before we start telling you you get a title shot and um and yeah I think um so Yuri 6 fo4 and Racket six foot5 okay okay and then reach the same age
What we got on reach there we don’t have it it doesn’t show okay it’s the one thing it doesn’t show it’s okay it’s okay but I mean I look at raki and I was like he seems like he’s a he like you said the karate style stance makes him
Long he fights long a little bit like a Mach he has bladed a lot more I love that style um because when you’re fighting someone like a Yuri he’s gonna walk down the thing is Yuri doesn’t have great wrestling like you were saying he sometimes will shoot takedowns his
Wrestling Is Not Great his timing though on the takedown attempts is not bad I mean if you go back and watch some of his fights in the exchanges he knows when to shoot he’ll shoot as you’re committed to your strike so he’ll shoot off of those and he his timing on it is
Pretty damn good for someone who doesn’t wrestle a lot the style in which he gets takedowns Is Not Great you know it’s kind of a let me let me grab the waist and hope I can drag you down or try to get under the butt he doesn’t come but
He also doesn’t come from a conventional yeah this is true background too so but this fight does have me excited this maybe this fight will be a the opening fight on the main card John because John just put it all the way down to the opening fight on the prelims that’s what
He said earlier it may be it may be the the preliminary Main Event how’s that man put some respect on these guys names I got respect for both of them but that supposedly that card I’m believing what Dana White says is gonna be unbelievable okay let’s look at this though okay you
Have that fight right there that we just talked about and then you’ve got Alaine Sterling and Calvin k preliminary fight I’m putting that fight on the main card over the big guys but it won’t happen it won’t happen you’re going to put the big guys on there first
Because the little guys get no resp so you’re saying this is a preliminary fight preliminary fight I’m saying that Dana’s going to put it on the prelims because Dana doesn’t like aljo like like we like aljo we love aljo I love Alo I like aljo I just want I want to see aljo
Get some respect on his name man this is a great fight Calvin ker stylistically is a perfect match up for him fight at 145 yeah yes I know but John if I was going to pick a fight for aljo in the 145 pound division it would have been Calvin
Kar it would have been Calvin Kar because you believe that he can outg grapple him yes I don’t believe it I I know I know he can out grapple him well hold on that’s if he can get him to the ground he can get him to the ground uh
Don’t be too sure baby he can get him to the ground Calvin I tell you what Calvin’s gonna be putting some strikes on Al Jamaine he’s very tight with his stand up he’s good at keeping his hands down low also he doesn’t keep his hands real high keeps his hands a little bit
Lower and that helps him with his takedown defense you know that’s true and he’s got pop and if there’s one thing one thing that we’ve seen if the aljo is uh he’s phenomenal fighter but guys that have power give him problems because it’s slows down his takedown attempts and his his ability to
Get inside which is that that’s not just him that’s Fighters you know power power makes a difference because it makes you go oh I can’t get hit by that much yeah I look at if you go back and watch the Kain Velasquez RDA fight fight number two not number one is he they
Never fought though they never fought RDA is too small for C oh this is right sorry I to did I say RDA you did oh man okay so um JDS yeah JDS sorry RDA man anyway R A all the same it’s alphabet yeah it’s a three name thing it’s like alphabets
Um so JDS if you watch that fight Kane takes out the equation of him being hit or clipped real hard by shooting low-l singles for the first two minutes of the fight until he can work his way up to the bot almost crawling almost almost Crawling After him look it points like
This in the fight when he fought when aljo fought triar Shan you got to let your and I know this wasn’t an ego thing I’m just simply saying Kane put his ego to the side and was like there’s no way I’m losing to this guy I’m gonna do
Whatever it takes I don’t care if I have to look like um Crawling After him or I am crawling after him in the first round but once I work my way up to this body he’s gonna get the business and that’s exactly what happened in that fight aljo
Needs to take because Calvin Kar is not he does kick but he’s not a he doesn’t kick a lot Boxing center and so in that when I when I look at that I’m like he’s going have to reach real down to get it like it’s a kind of the approach I
Should have taken with patrii it very much should have just said you know what shoot low level shoot low level keep chasing them keep making them work you know that they’re not going to jump on you and try to and try to submit you they know back off and make you get up
Yep exactly so what you’re in the same spot I’m in exactly where I would have been had I not gotten it so this is it better than getting clipped Al’s got to make that happen for the first uh for the first round make him fight by by
Backing out trying to fight off his back foot go and take a look at and I know some people maybe didn’t think it was a great fight but but a um but the style and the fight IQ of John Fitch when he fought Rory McDonald sorry man but it was brilliant
It was smart I mean it just look like you look like your opponent’s constantly running from you he’s not having any offense because he’s afraid to pull the trigger cuz I’m going to shoot on you if you fight that style fight I think that Alo can get uh he can control the back
And once he gets to the back he’ll be there for the whole round I believe he’ll be there for the whole route if he doesn’t if he doesn’t get the he definitely has the ability to stay there you know I look at him and pachy mix very similar in certain Styles you know
They’re grappling a little bit of their wrestling I’d say Aldo’s got a little bit better wrestling but Pache doesn’t take the chances to shoot he knows how to get there with his strikes into the body lock he utilizes different types of position to get in tight single leg to
The body lock get the hooks the grap Vine uh they’re a little bit different in the wrestling category Pache has a unique style which benefits him and then alj Jo use more of a wrestling Centric to get in on it but definitely definitely very uh entertaining fight
Man this to me I think is a better I don’t say better they’re both great fights but the 205 pound fight that we just talked about for sure will make it higher than this fight and this fight to me interests me a lot more it’s all
Right man little guys so go ahead and say it PR they’re going to end up on the prelims they’re going to end up on the this is 300 right yeah this is 300 y yeah they’re gonna end that’s a great fight is a great fight and I’ll tell you
What you got to give it up you know Alain going up to 145 he ain’t taking an easy easy fight gatar can fight man stud so like pull up the the 145 pound rankings I mean John if you you were to look for a matchup for him for Al aljo
Who would have been a perfect matchup for maybe Brian Orga but Bri but Brian’s fighting for the title but I would say who would who would you have not fighting for the title I’m sorry not Bri Bri’s not fighting for the title he’s against Yer we just talked about it um
But uh who would you have picked in the top for aljo 15 or I mean yeah yeah I would say in the top 10 you know you can’t I wouldn’t disrespect him like that I mean I feel like Calvin Kar is probably the threshold of if if I
Was uh the UFC the UFC well no if if I was uh if I was alj Jo’s team the guy I would have picked is giga Chaz yeah I could see that I could see that because you know he has nothing on the ground
Yeah no he has dude if you when once you get him to the ground it’s over yeah yeah interesting I would have said maybe Bryce Mitchell before that knockout no see but Bryce Mitchell matches up well with yeah uh it would have been a fun
Fight it would been a fun fight but if I’m if I am alain’s team I’m looking for the fight that I have a distinct Advantage somewhere where am I gonna where’s that Advantage gonna come in and I’m GNA say it’s gonna be against G now obviously in the
Standup Giga is a monster you G have to get past that but you have a a definitive route to winning this fight by getting it taked down well let’s say Alo goes out there and gets a submission against Calvin cator in the first second round I mean where do you
Jump him then I mean he’s a former Champion yeah you know he doesn’t get the respect he deserves and um what do you jum my next match up yeah Arnold Allen and then after that’s G to be a tough one because Arnold’s big yeah for
That we class too but I I I actually think I think I think aljamain is gonna he’s gonna fair you know pretty well at 45 as far as his size he’s he’s a muscular guy and he was losing a lot of weight yeah you know for his fights so I
Think the the 10 pounds is going to help him as far as the way he feels for the fight you know and sometimes just feeling better mean makes your fight better so well these guy like will we see a jump in performance like we saw with figgy in that fight
When figgy came up to 12 135 will we see a jump of performance uh with aljo at 145 we’re to find out we’re going to find out find out do you think we will that’s I don’t know because I didn’t think he fought you know I thought that there was clear indications from
Devidson that he was losing too much weight you could see that he would get tired tired in fights now that he had a you know his second fight against Brandon Moreno just looked like you know even his first fight he got tired and his second fight just no energy there
The third fight he looked good so I I can’t say it but yeah you saw times that he absolutely was falling off of the cliff as far as his output his energy it just wasn’t there I haven’t seen that with aljoe at 135 yeah he’s got energy
He’s got output he goes out there and he fights and so I haven’t seen you know him have the same problems as what I saw fero was having at 125 with the cut so he’s the one that knows exactly how much it’s affecting him we’re gonna find out
Yeah yeah I I think that he’ll have a little bit of a speed advantage in the grappling and the wrestling against certain Fighters you know um he’s going to have a little bit of a because like with with figgy he you could tell when
He came up to 35 he just seemed so much quicker he just seemed really now that’s going to change with the depending on who the opponent is yes but um but I think in Calvin Kar because he does just kind of slowly methodically walk you
Down and just try to box box you off a couple kicks here and there um he’s go to I think he’s gonna avoid the kicking probably a little bit more even more so in this fight to avoid getting the leg caught in the Tak down and aljo wants
The fight it’s a ground good top pressure will the strength be a factor the size be a factor I don’t think so because aldra does cut a lot of weight he fills out quite a bit when he’s out of camp and um I I like this jump up for
Him just my only concern with him in the jump up is that when he gets to the Brian Ortega he’s huge when he gets to the max hallay they’re kind of they’re they’re big for the weight so that’s where I’m one like man where is this going to benefit you um that’s where
You’re gon to have your heart but we’re going to see cream R to the top but after if he does beat calator I would like to see him because he was um a champ he did defend his title several times I’d like to see him fight Max
Holloway CU Max is in this no man’s land yeah Max is like in this no man’s land of okay what’s next for me what am I doing you know like I’d like to I’d like to see I’d like to see the max Hall I agree with
You on the Arnold Allen if he can’t get to Max then go to Arnold I I agree but I’d like to see the max fight you know good match up former Champion versus former Champion great match up yeah so would be interesting ah b nickel against Cody
Brundage Cody coming off of a uh a big win that big slam was the second Slam in a row I think it was the second one but uh Cody Leo lives off of uh his wrestling is good it ain’t good compared to Bo Nichols Man and uh we’ve seen the
One thing you’ve seen Cody brunish has a hard time I don’t want to say this in a bad way because I really like him as a fighter because I do think he’s got talent having talent and having confidence are two different things and Bo nickel has confidence Bo
Nickel he has confidence that I can out wrestle you I can out strike you Cody Brundage is now taking this fight and no matter what Josh in the back of his mind and all wrestlers do this they look at this and they go they don’t even they
Tell they outwardly they say it’s not a wrestling match it’s MMA this ain’t a wrestling match this is MMA but in the back of their mind they go goddamn he was a good wrestler godamn he can wrestle goddamn you know if if it was a wrestling
Match and it’s just sitting there and it it festers it brues and I just look at this and you know Bo Nichols is what now two and 0 in the UFC and uh he’s gonna be a monster he’s gonna be I’m telling you right now Bo nickl will be part of my
Matchmaking okay I’m just giving it to you okay I I just just looking at it right there I was like yep he’s he’s gonna be part of I know who I would put him against okay but uh this is not what I would say is a good matchup for Cody
Brundage it’s not a good matchup for him at all and I I I don’t want to I’m not talking trash in the UFC this is a smart play by them they’re they’re doing the Conor McGregor thing a little bit yes they are and and Bo you know what’s
Funny is that Bo is confident Bo doesn’t he’s got I like his trash talk because it comes from he doesn’t really trash talk bad yeah he not trash talk bad but he he does have a way of trash talking and what I like is that it’s a type of
Trash talk that comes with confidence of who I of what I’ve achieved already yes so I have that room I’ve got that what done I should be given that leeway to say these things because I am the best wrestler probably in this whole uh promotion I mean if who who who else is
In there that would be a better wrestler than him the only one you could put next to him Henry Sury yeah I think that’d be about it I mean in in terms of American wrestling style well American wrestling style Bo Nichols the best if you’re talking folk style yeah we’re talking
Folk style we’re talking if we’re talking just yeah I think just in wrestling in general folk style B nickol yeah Bo nickel would be the best Henry Henry’s a yeah I get it Henry’s a freestyle freestyle International wrestler yeah um when I look at B he’s got power in his hands he
Knows he doesn’t have to worry about really getting taken down he’ll outs scramble you if you go back and watch some of his college wrestling matches there’s no there’s like absolutely no quit there’s no quit like this guy will he will be there even when it’s a five
Round fight he will be there he I don’t know what it is maybe it’s the ginger inim I don’t know but he’s got he’s got he’s got he’s got the you have got to separate bow nickel from his senses yep that’s how you beat him I’m
Not saying it can be done I’m not you know well obviously it can be done I’m not saying it’s gonna be easy to do but there’s I mean you can maybe here’s the other thing there’s maybe you can catch him in some sort of transition and when
He’s when he’s wrestling you get the the guillotine get the arming Guillotine did you ever did you watch his match against Gordon Ryan oh yeah I did yeah okay Gordon Ryan was bigger yeah okay and now Gordon Ryan obviously knew where he was gonna be strong and Bo nickel knew where
He was gonna be strong and so it was a matter of Gordon had a hell of a time trying to get him to the ground yeah you know couldn’t really do it but we’re talking about you name me a better H nogee jiujitsu stylist than Gordon Ryan
Is that a Ser is that a serious question yeah John there is none thank you John I was like is that a serious question and that guy went with him for 30 minutes yeah yeah yeah he’s I get what you’re saying I do and and that was a while ago
Yeah it was I think because he’s I think he’s a smart fighter he’s been was always a smart wrestler I think he’s a smart fighter I think what he did before he jumped into the sport is that he understood these are the positions that could get caught in Guillotine arming
Guillotine Dar side choke all these type of things just in exchanges of me wrestling my my neck being caught basically in all of them I think he just practiced and drilled and just and focused on the defense for those if he had to and um where he should keep his head Turtle his
Head at certain points to make sure that his neck wasn’t available um and turning the corner um getting in the wrestling turning the corner getting more to the back you know and then getting to the waist you know being able to hold around the waste versus in in wrestling you’re
Not able to when they’re on the ground lifting and you also can’t being able to take and clasp your hands together and hold people totally different yeah this is not a good match up for Cody and um Cody’s gonna have to he’s gonna have to catch him in the transition in the wrestling
Or he’s gonna have to get the knockout and I think in this fight I think that Bo is GNA keep this fight on the feet he’s going to try he’s been talking about a for a while now he’s going to show his stand up I know we saw it in
The last fight you know with the big shots but I’m saying that I think in this fight he wants to Showcase more of his standup in terms of oh look it I have good standup I have clean standup I’m not just a wrestler who can get you
Know past your guard like a hot knife through butter and just boom right to the submission I’m not just that guy you know I’m not why not be that guy he can be I think he can pick and choose when he wants to be that guy when you’re
Wrestling’s that good yep you know that’s the benefit of of being a good wrestler people I think you have to if you’re at home watching Fighters oh why is he wrestling CU he can because he can it’s because it’s smart yeah yep he’s got all the tools man I like I like his
Confidence trash talk I like the way um I like what he’s doing right now so I’m excited to see uh where he leads what I’m not looking past Cody but matchup wise this is a favorable matchup for for bonl yeah next fight you want me to yes go I’m sorry
Did I take that from you Dave yeah you you breath breathing kind of hard I was like oh John’s going John’s going to take this onea breathing kind of hard Aron blanchfield versus man fioro at UFC Fight Night Atlantic City in March when was the last time they were
In Atlantic City a long time long time a long time yeah what what hotel would where would they be going for that uh probably Boardwalk yeah I figured where but W the same oh the same the old school one cuz weren’t they having them at the Revel for a second the rev the
Rev is it the Rev and then they went out of business I think did they go out of business they went business they opened up right before Co yeah they opened up right before Co and then guess what that’s move [ __ ] they went out of business I think ah 12-1 versus
11-1 well this is your basic Aaron Banfield is trying to become a ER mhm because her grappling is fantastic and Manel Faro is trying to become a Grappler because her standup is fantastic so we’re GNA see who’s uh able to keep this fight in the realm that
They want it to be it’s obvious that Aaron blanchfield is gonna want to take mano to the ground and Mano is gonna do everything she can to make sure that this thing stays where it starts and that’s on the feet and she’s been looking really good you know you got to
Give give her credit who she you know manoo she really has you know I like Aaron blashfield and on the ground she’s aggressive and she goes after people but her standup is not real impressive and so I look at the difference in their standup and it’s like to me Aaron blanchfield is gonna
Almost be starting out as a panic wrestler okay looking just diving for takedown because she does not want to be in any kind of standup you know confrontation for very long with meno both both are strong in their areas yeah it’s just a matter of where does this fight take
Place I mean we just talked about the Sterling kater fight there’s nothing wrong with chasing for the low level see and I was going to say well you came up with a game plan before you know Alaine that’s the same game plan if you’re Aaron blanchfield you got to go
For that yep um you got to be in great shape though to have that game plan work for you yeah you do because it does something just getting just even getting up off of the ground when the referee tells you to stand up yep just that you
Know it’s it’s burning energy you know well it gets into your Psy whether you knew that was the game plan to begin with it gets into your psyche like oh man I missed another one oh man how long is this going to go on I was expecting
It only i’ only have to shoot once or twice you know and then i’ get her down it just it gets into your psyche but you just got to keep grinding you got to keep pressing you got to put the ego to the side and be like look whatever it
Takes for me to get to that body lock or to that single leg or that double leg or press them to the fence whatever it takes I got to get there to that over under and uh she’s got to bury her uh her ego put some pressure move her head
Offline close that distance get to the body Locker get get in on the leg or something and get this fight to the ground I think once he does get to the ground I don’t think F will be the same fighter going in the second round if she
Can get her down early if if I I I John if John I get it okay what was what was meno’s last fight right Rose nunas okay okay and Rose in the standup was doing okay but there was some times that you know just the size was just I thought a
Little bit much you know but when she tried to get the fight to the ground and Rose is not bad at getting the fight really wasn’t able to so she’s Aaron Blas is gonna have to take a look at what Rose did how she was trying and how
Mano was able to defend and figure out a route past that yeah I I think we can’t compare Aaron blanchfield with rose only based on the fact that no no no completely different yeah a Aaron’s a a bigger female you know and giving up the weight Rose coming up I mean been
Fighting at 115 for a while that type of stuff it makes a difference um I agree I also think that I I don’t know I’m leaning more towards Aaron blanchfield I think she will get this fight to the ground and I think every time she gets this fight to the
Ground it’s G to be even harder for um foro to get back up and not just get back up she won’t be the same fighter on the feet because of the hesitation to pull the trigger that’s one two the cardio to get back up you start slowing
Down the energy like you said just getting up from the bottom just even when the no one’s on you it’s like G exhausting you know um but Aaron’s got to get her down if he if she doesn’t get her down early in the first round it’s it starts
Giving for real the confidence in the second and the third and I can stuff your takedowns and so it does it it’s gives me a throwback kind of fight right where you have UFC one you know UFC 2 like styles of the fights and this is
Kind of where you have yeah I like you it’s funny because you’re kind of you’re leaning towards Aon and I can understand why I’m leaning towards meno yeah I can tell the way you’re talking to me like this it’s just I look it if if blanchfield had great wrestling if blanchfield had Tatiana
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Support us and not John but and Dave you have some news buddy yeah um so this was one of Dave’s text go troll text yeah I just wanted to get your reaction uh here to Joe Ran’s comments on his podcast with Bono um it was based around uh
Fighting in the UFC kind of being top tier at that point and and talking about Fighters coming over there here I’ll read the quote to you and then let’s get your reaction Joe says there’s very good fighters in other organizations but I often feel like they’re wasting their
Career I see these Elite Fighters that are fighting in Bellator or pfl and I’m like hey guys no one’s watching I mean some of some people are watching you’re getting a bit of a fan base I don’t want to disrespect but there’s a reality there’s the XFL and there’s the CFL then
There’s the [ __ ] NFL and if you’re not in the [ __ ] NFL are you really playing football you go first you go first okay first off if you’re not playing in the NFL are you playing football yeah you’re playing football when you’re in college it’s football when you’re in high school it’s
Football football is football I don’t care what letters are in front of it now re between the lanes here’s shut the [ __ ] up there’s that troll this is why there’s that troll this is this is the one thing that Joe’s right about and this is what I’ve said all the time
About the UFC and Fighters because you have to break this down and look at what’s important and what’s important to each fighter is individual and I’ve told fighters to their face look you need to decide what is the reason you’re fighting is it to become famous and if it is the UFC is
The best option for you they have the best marketing and they are going to if you do what you’re supposed to do they’re going to put that marketing behind you and more people are going to know you than ever before if that’s the reason you’re fighting if you’re fighting for
Money they’re not the best option okay the pfl Bellator at the time all had to they had to Josh and it’s because the UFC is the biggest but the UFC has you know proven time and time again look besides a couple of people the best the the best paid
Fighters are outside of the UFC okay a couple in the UFC make really good money really good money okay but it’s only a couple and so you have to look and say what is the reason you’re fighting and look I’ve had I’ve had guys say it both ways I am fighting you know
They’re 24 years old they’re 25 years old I I want you know I want to be the best in the world I want everyone to know who I am go to the UFC dude that’s where you need to be because what your ego is telling you and it’s okay we all
Have an ego there’s nothing wrong with it but what your ego is saying is I need people to when I say oh I fight for a living really who do you fight for I fight for the UFC they equate that to the NFL for football because if you say that I play
Football right and people go you play football you play in the NFL no I play for the xfel people are automatically gonna say oh that’s a little bit different just like what Joe is saying if you say I’m an MMA fighter do you fight in the UFC no fight in the
Pfl oh oh that’s different what what what’s what’s the difference between those there’s no difference they’re just two different promotions but people because the UFC’s marketing has done so automatically equate the UFC in the world of MMA with the NFL and they should it has reached
That so by saying I fight for the UFC that automatically establishes to anybody out there that’s a casual oh you’re actually good yeah that’s the way they now that’s not quite true because look with the number of people that the UFC have you know they’ve got a lot of
People on there that they’re okay but they’re not you know they’re definitely not you know uh best in the world they’re definitely not someone that is going to be a world champion they’re definitely not someone that someone from another organization cannot go and beat handily but
The top people they have are are that good so you have to you have to just figure out what is it that you want what Joe is doing here is he’s working for his employer he’s working for his friend in Dana and saying it and he’s saying I
Want to see and I don’t blame Joe for saying it I want to see everybody in the UFC okay I I don’t blame you because you want to see these guys fight these other guys here but you’re not paying them and the UFC is not going to pay them and so
When you take a look at how much they can make fighting in these other leagues and their egos are not so much that they really care about who knows them you’re gonna find people Fame is everything I’ll tell you what you know what what good is Fame it’s a pain in
The ass okay don’t need it don’t want it but there are people that do and so you know Joe’s gonna have his opinion I look at it I kind of laugh at it but it’s all good uh let’s let’s break it down let’s break down look let me just start off by
Saying that I don’t have a problem whatsoever with what Joe says I mean Joe definitely it he hit some good points on this very good points and um whether we agree with him or not not it’s we or whether people agree with him or not there’s very good fighters in
Other organizations well we’ve been saying that everyone’s been saying that I think people people that are follow the sport they know that they know that there’s other good fighters in one there’s they know specifically in this and this this quote I don’t know where uh oh you got it from MMA junkie they’ve
Altered what Joe said here too okay because he really who he was talking about he’s talking about Johnny eblin because he brings up Johnny elin’s name okay and he says look Johnny Elin he’s a [ __ ] monster man I I would love to see him fight in the yeah okay so you’re
Talking talking about Johnny eblin I don’t blame you you’re right he would be awesome to watch in the UFC’s 185 pound division fact he’s a sparring partner at times of the guy who’s your Champion right now and you know everyone knows how those things would go we had Eric
Nixi on on the [ __ ] you know show and who did he say if I was hey if you could train anyone who’s the guy he goes Johnny Elma yeah okay got it yep but I mean like like was saying with this though this his quote here there’s very good fighters in other organizations
He’s absolutely correct I’m just going to break down the the what the quote what yeah the quote but I often feel like they’re wasting their career now like you said and like I’ve I’ve said for a long time is it really comes down to what’s important to the fighter
That’s it that’s where like we we as fans of course we want to see them all in under one Banner but when you do that you’re taking away what they get paid they don’t have as much negotiating rights and that’s the biggest thing until the UFC starts paying the fighters
A lot more money the lower level Fighters the mid- tier Fighters or even the top the top I don’t think people realize the top three top four just because you’re in that top three or four doesn’t mean you’re getting paid it just means you’re really [ __ ] good y
That’s what it means and so it says but I often feel like they’re wasting their career so let’s figure out what’s good for them let’s figure out where they want to be do you want to be famous like you said okay or do you want to make a
Lot of money now everyone’s going to go and say like well Conor makes this you’re going to take the the top 000000 number one number one 1% you’re going to take that top 00000000 1% and try to use them as an example but that’s not the case for everyone else like look Patrick
Mahomes makes all this money $550 million okay for a 10-year contract okay but I can just tell you that his DBS are not making that money they’re not making anywhere near that money okay um then it says I see these Elite Fighters that are fighting in Bellator pfl and I’m like
Hey you guys no one’s watching I I would have dis I would have agreed or disagreed with you a little bit but in terms of the level of which the UFC is they’re getting their views he’s right they weren’t watching also when we went to showtime and nothing
Against Showtime I loved everyone that I worked with there the numbers weren’t there we went from actually we went from CBS Sports which was doing about 300,000 uh 250 to 300,000 um watches or views when we were on it and then we went to then we went to Showtime which was a
Paid platform which we went down to about 120,000 views you know and sometimes it only hit 100,000 views depending on what it was you’re losing half your Market when you do something like that so I agree I agree yes people were watching and at times they weren’t watching but in this
Scenario where we when we finished out on Showtime there was it was very rare that a lot of people got to watch 200,000 300,000 it was rare but and you got you got to look take that as a point though when when you look at get the number of people
Available you know because we’ll take Bellator real quick Bellator was with Spike there was 90 some million available okay they did went one of their shows did you know 3 point some million with the thing but then they went from there to Paramount it went
Down to 550 54 million then they went to CBS Sports 35 million then it or no I’m sorry that was 48 million then went to Showtime which is a p you know a pay wall 20 20on yeah yeah like you’re you’re cutting your ability for people
To see you away just right there he’s look Joe’s not saying anything that’s wrong he’s he’s speaking his mind he’s correct on a lot of things it says here it says but the reality is the XFL and the and and there’s the the CFL then there’s the [ __ ] NFL and look John
And I have been very clear the UFC right now is the NFL no doubt there’s no doubt about it they’re marketing they’re they they know they’ve been doing this for a long time he’s 100% correct but it doesn’t always come down to doesn’t always come down to Dana White wanting
The best fighter and then getting it it doesn’t work that way it’s like look the the Rams they wanted the best quarterback that went out and got Stafford that was available you know like uh the Lakers they want LeBron James they went out and got LeBron James the availability of where they can
Go there in terms of the NFL and the NBA it’s the NFL and the NBA not all the fighters they want to get paid and I agree with you that strike it started with Strike Force lead XE it started with those promotions they had to pay more because
Why would you not why would you not get paid more to go to to go to a show that’s not considered to be the best show go to the UFC if they’re going to pay you that that’s why when guys like Michael Chandler and MVP and those guys
They they went like MVP said that he’s like he said something about like uh I’m here but I’m not here for long or something like that I think in one of his interviews he understands that his timetable on him to be successful in the UFC is coming to a close you know so
He’s he look this is I made a ton of money I made a lot of money in Bellator and now I’m GNA go to the UFC and capitalize and get a lot of supporters a lot of fans but it’s because of the fact and here here’s your thing and this
Happened with Michael Chandler too it is because of the fact that you were fighting in Bellator making a lot of money that you were able to Showcase what you could do and if you’re gonna look at Michael Venom pagee I’ve never seen someone physically hurt people as
Badly as Michael Venom page has in a cage okay we’re talking broken skulls one kick destroying their knee blowing out their Patel attendance look at look at Derrik Anderson’s nose off of a kick I mean just unbelievable stuff but it took him doing those things now he knows what he
Made at Bellator now he goes and his management goes to the UFC and says look you know this is the guy you want and the UFC goes yeah we want him yeah we know we want him do we want to pay him what he was basically making at that
Location that promotion because and you know and I I’ll give you know MVP all the credit in the world you know cuz we saw his name up on the board and stuff that that little leak but then he went to the pfl you know and and started the
Negotiations but went there and did the little staredown with Dumb and you look and you go oh maybe he will you know sign with the pfl and he did that and what did that do with the UFC that that made them say do we want this guy yep do
Do we want him we do pay him yeah because getting paid because the UK TV contracts that they have over there are with Bellator and having him stay with Bellator pfl and then go over there and fight du that would just I mean they would crush it they would kill it they
Bring automatic notoriety of the two of them fighting potentially over there in the UK huge huge fight yeah exactly but let me go back so they so they had to pay him yeah let me go backwards in time a little bit cuz we use Chandler as an
Example we’re using MVP as an example let me use another fighter as an example who went to the World Series of fighting it was someone that I’m really close with was Anthony Rumble Johnson he left making like 200,000 150,000 a fight $200,000 a fight he left making that
Amount of money when they cut him he fought vtor bord all that stuff he didn’t make weight all those things they released him guess what he went over there never won the title at the world series of fighting nope fought some fights had some great performances came
Back made almost a million dollars was a fight he’s making 6 700 800 fighting DC figh for four times the amount yes he was before and the reason and that’s because he became valuable yes where did he become valuable in another organization there you go and
That’s that’s what you have to do and look I’m not I’m not telling people where to go and we or I shouldn’t say we I’m going to say me I tell Fighters go where the money is because as long as you keep winning they’re the UFC is
Going to always want you back that top promotion always has to say that they have the best fighters and they can’t say that if you’re beating if you’re if you’re the champ in Bellator if you’re the champ in PFO they’re gonna pay you that little extra to get you over okay
The only time I have they would not have paid you if you were there and you wanted this bump to that same pay they look at you and go well you lost your mind yeah because you don’t have anything to put against it you’ve got to have that other promotion there giving
You the ability say we will have you fight for this amount of money now the UFC can either match it they’re gonna have to you know more than match it put a little bit more than and give you that pay that’s what you’re looking for yeah
If you look at chess players if you look at like if you look at if you look at Fighters whatever it is okay you can say in the one-on-one comat Sports and also like in terms of Chess or tennis it’s one thing to say I beat this guy and
This guy was a or this female or this guy he was a wimbl and Champion he was a US Open Champion he was this he was that it’s credentials that go along with it so when I come across so I come from the from Bellator to the UFC Bruce Buffer introduces you as
Former Bellator Champion former Strikeforce world champion former yeah and they will you got to be honest he will say former Strike Force okay former Pride former because the UFC owns him but he will not say EUR a for he does not say Michael Chandler for former three-time Bellator lightweight champion
He does not say that he didn’t say it really interesting interesting interesting interesting I I thought John anik will okay John anik will say it in you know he’ll say he was a three- time Bel but in the introductions Bruce will not okay he’s told not to do that okay
Good I mean I’m not good I’m just saying like you I would have thought that they would have done it during the intro because they but then again they did it for me when when I was there but you like you said they bought Strike Force they bought Strike Force they own it
Like I said I have no I broke down his quote I have nothing I can’t say anything about it like he’s speaking his mind and he is right about quite a bit of it it just has to do with way the way you look at what he’s saying I look at
It differ because of Rumble Johnson and the experience of that Anthony actually asked me to manage him you know during that World Series of fighting St so me and my other buddy the two of us he was asking us to manage him I was like look
Man I’ve got some feelers in the on how the management works but I wouldn’t feel right doing this this is just us being friends and he’s like no this is what I want I was like no h we’re good I’m I’m good I don’t want to manage anybody but
It’s but just understanding that portion of it and seeing what he ended up getting I’m so happy for him in terms of what he you know what he ended up making he made a ton of money during that time but it was because he left and he came
Back as and was having success in another organization he found his weight class he found all those things uh he was actually finding heavyweight over there and when he came his first fight there was against Andre Andi yeah but he was actually finding a heavyweight over there then he got his weights dialed
Down and he came back and was fighting at 205 so um the same thing can be done with the Michael chanler situation and the same thing with MVP like you have to understand that these other promotions have to pay them more and once you can wrap your head around that that I I’ve
Always felt it’s best for if you don’t want to go to the UFC right away and just fight all the killers leading up to a title shot and not get and get paid Pennies on the on the dollar I suggest you go to another organization work your
Way up if you believe you’re going to be champed work your way up to that top three top four whatever you don’t even have to be champed champon work your way into that number one title shot work your way into that that top one Contender somewhere in there and say
This is this is where I want to go I want to go over here because I can tell you that that Chandler when he left there was a lot of hype around Chandler regardless he was a good fighter he was exciting he was fun to watch he had great fights with Eddie
Alvarez then he went over there he automatically saw after his first fight he automatically saw a jump in his social media platform he automatically saw a jump in in his um his sponsorships all of those things after the Dan hooker fight it worked out perfectly for him in
The way that it should have worked out for him okay the way he wanted his management and him wanted it to work out great job on his part he left knowing that there’s not much time on my career and MVP is now following suit going okay
Look I made a ton of money over there I’m good I’m comfortable now I can go over here make a ton if not more than he was making because they know that look I only I only I have a short period of time I’m only going to fight the best
Guys I don’t want to I’m not going to say no to fights you pay me this I take whoever you put in front of me but I prefer that they’d be in the top five top eight top whatever my conversation with them when I left Strikeforce was a
Reink a four five deal was I only want to fight the top five guys I think Nate at the time was number four four he was like number three or four at the time he just lost to Bens in the fight before for the title he was number three I think somewhere number
Three in there I said I only want to fight the top five guys okay this is what I want I I didn’t I thought I was going to retire there I really did and um and they gave me Nate so the rest is history like it really just came on like
The those were the options that I I try to create for myself and I think anybody that comes from another organization and goes to the UFC you have to try to create those type of situations yeah all right next what else you got for us all right let’s um jez look at
This one Kobe Covington so I don’t want to harp on it cuz we already no no you’re just bringing your man back up I Love It Go the last show we did going um a lot of conversation about the the talk at the UFC 296 but Kobe Covington has
Come out on a podcast and said that um he broke his ankle in the the first 30 seconds that was his ankle thought it was his foot oh sorry sorry foot sorry foot foot um and so yeah so what do you guys think about this claim and how that potentially impacted def
Fate like does does it make sense if it was really broken then it did it did impact the fight it’s harder to wrestle with a broken foot I mean it’s kind of I would think history has shown or science would show that it’s hard to push off on that
Foot when it’s broken it’s Hur it hurts look I I read the comments I know a guy that broke his thumb in the first round of a championship fight and I tell you what to to fight with a thumb that’s kind of folded backwards and to [ __ ]
Throw punches with it and grab hold of people and do those things and to actually be in the fight I’ve known a lot of guys that have broken things during fights things happen during fights and to sit there and to say hey this is the reason I lost
No it’s not the reason you lost is you got beat by a better fighter yeah I’m I mean I I read all I read some of the comments and it’s so funny it’s we got called Kobe haters and one and then the post right below or the
Comment right below was I I couldn’t agree with you guys more like Kobe just didn’t show up he just didn’t fight and it was like one after another of people calling us haters and then the fight then the comment after that was you guys are absolutely right about Kobe I’m done
With watching him I’m done with this you know what you guys should fight amongst each other in there you guys are it’s like it’s so great people like you know you guys hate Kobe you guys dud we we don’t hate any fighter I don’t hate any fighter I can’t
Speak for John maybe he does but I I don’t I don’t hate any Fighter um I I just call I try to call it as best I can if you guys don’t like it then the way you see it yeah and so Kobe I think is
Good for the sport I think that what he did was he overstepped and uh you guys can call me a Karen it’s so funny I was loving to hear that I was a Karen in the comments I was loving to hear that I was um a staunched liberal that made me
Laugh um but this is uh this is one of those things um you know um or they said take your Kami California ass back or some [ __ ] like that like I was like oh wow this is great because you know a ton of uh Californians moved to Texas
Because they’re you know yeah anyways it just was uh this this is one of those things where if he broke his foot he broke his foot then maybe that explains why he couldn’t wrestle or he wasn’t wrestling as much as he could have maybe he didn’t as much as he wanted yeah U
But he but then he went on to say that he won the fight he didn’t win the fight he went on to say he didn’t that he didn’t win the fight because um because he’s a trump supporter no you you just didn’t win the fight that’s see and and
This and this is where exactly what you’re saying this is where I have the problem in that I go I don’t what do you believe because did he break his foot okay I’ll say he broke his foot you know then he said you know I won the fight
He there wasn’t one not one Josh not one media Outlet scored the fight for Kobe cumington now normally the media Outlets there’s like 30 of them one of them will score the fight for the opposite person unless it’s a submission or a knockout you know just always not one
Okay then he says oh they didn’t give him the decision because he’s a trump supporter and the judges hate Trump Jud just got enough problems you’re you’re pulling up [ __ ] when you absolutely lose a fight four rounds to one and the one that you you know you
Won was the fifth you you know you were able to take him down but you didn’t do any damage okay you didn’t do anything to actually win the damn fight you won the round okay the biggest problem with being who Colby is as a as a fighter is he’s got the stick
And when his performance doesn’t match the stick it becomes the problem because then you’re looking and you’re going you’re not who you say you were you said you were GNA do this you said you were gonna do this you didn’t do any of those things and that’s the problem with the
Stick it’s hard to be the hill it is because once you start losing man they start like you said they start picking apart the things that you said you were going to do and you never did yeah it’s hard to be the hill um and we’ve seen
Snowball effects once you once you start losing you can’t get out of it because it’s it’s a mental thing it’s a mental your confidence isn’t there people you you start reading the comments you know let me let me ask this and it just just kind of popped in my
Head you know and there’s nothing against MMA Masters is where he’s training at in Florida they’re a good group of guys that got you know they’re they’re good instructors good trainers but he was at ATT and he had all the problems with Dustin porier and maal and all those things happened what’s been
His record since he left at what two and four two and I don’t know he’s got he’s got two he’s got two wins in his last four fights I think yeah but yeah two wins five fights I was but when did he leave I think it was around 20 19 here yeah la
Yeah no I get it but the other thing though John is it becomes because because he’s not as active he hasn’t been as active he keeps waiting for these title shots and it’s and I wasn’t I’m not even looking at it and like I said MMA Masters great trainers
And stuff but it’s the people you’re surrounded by and the people that you get to actually train with the level of those people is what makes you get better and better when you are facing guys that do things better than you all the time and you’re training with those
Guys your level comes up it’s either that or or you you wash out okay and you got to figure all those guys that he was able to train with the freaking the Dustin pores that were there the the mzv dolls the eblin the Y you know yars all
These people that are there those are bodies that were making Colby get better and better and better and now he’s the big fish you know who’s pushing him you know I I used to tell this to the kids when I would train them in Jiu-Jitsu I would tell the adults also
Is that you can’t get you can’t be the best in Jiu-Jitsu if you don’t have Partners but I was talking him more in terms of of you know you can’t hurt your partners because then if you don’t have Partners you’re not learning Jitsu rolling by yourself you know and so
That’s being that’s being Hector lumbar yeah and I love Hector but it’s true don’t break your toys yeah you know and so he’s in the same but he’s in the same position but it’s because of the trash talk it’s because he put himself in that position the other thing with this is
That in the doing the trash talk in in being so vocal like this and causing problems at that one gym at at where pretty much everyone loves to train you’ve now told every coach in the country or in the world that you’re not easy to work with and you could potentially be a
Cancer why would I want to have you at my gym why would I want to train with you and who would I bring in to work with you at the level which you need help with that isn’t going to hate me for training you let’s just say um uh who’s
Uh the coach Trevor Whitman let’s just say Trevor was like hey let me bring you in I’ll hold for you I’ll work with you I’ll get you better on the feet work on some game planning you automatically know he’s going to try to bring in gaii
And kamaru to to kind of help wrestle with him and grapple with him or train with him and spar with him those guys have to like him yeah that’s that’s gone those no way those guys like him and so Trevor’s not going to go out of his way
To to say hey come I’ll help you you know get back there’s no way these coaches now are they’re like no I’m not going to lose the ones that have been feeding me to take a chance on someone who is just is a firecracker you never know what’s going to happen you just
Explode in your hand at any moment you could take a look Dan you know look at Dan Lambert is the one that owns ATT and he loved Colby yeah he loved Colby that was part of the reason Colby was there you know and he tried to make
It work with the other Fighters and he couldn’t in the end he just couldn’t and someone had to go and ended up being Colby W the guy who owned he loved Colby and and Dan’s not an unreasonable Guy and because he’s made it so easy for all those fighters to to train they
Understand what they understand what what they have there and they’re like okay whatever Dan says like he didn’t just own the gym he helps provide for me and my family like he gives us a place and he’s been doing it since he opened that facility I mean the things he used
To do in the beginning way back when it was like JayZ and uh and those guys when it was when it was American top team back then with JayZ calak con and Hermes Fran yeah George Santiago Hermes Franco those guys I mean that picture of this their logo is Hermes franka yeah
You know um it’s like I don’t know they he’s given these Fighters they understand what they have and for someone to have to be kicked out or asked to leave man you’ve done something man you you’ve really ruffled feathers you know you’ve really ruffled feathers and like I said
Earlier it’s hard to be the hill because no matter where he goes now the MMA Masters you know wherever the gym is he’s at now like I don’t see a lot of other locations not with any notable coaches that would be willing to take him you know MMA Masters has good coaches and
They’re good there but who do they have there to help him get better like you said Iron sharpen iron typ the whole that’s the whole point yeah you know like with boxers right boxers have one coach and what do is they kind of travel they take their boxer to so and so or
They have people come to them yeah bring somebody in to get them ready you know Andre Ward used to spar with the guy who used to help train in boxing Ricardo Cortez and they would come to AKA Ricardo was there at a certain time and they would come and they would have
Ricardo and him Spar you know um um it just you can get good that way but you still need guys to spar with and you have to find those guys you can’t get better at boxing just Shadow Boxing you can get better but you’re not going to get world champion status better that’s
Right so uh but just to clarify the last thing I’m going to say on the Kobe cumington thing I like kobby I like him as a stick I thought he overstepped and he did no matter how you cut it and if you say he didn’t I don’t
Care I just I I like him I want to see him continue to fight I did overstep a little bit I will watch him fight but I I honestly I honestly don’t think he’s going to be a Main Event pay-per-view Fighter for a long time I I don’t think
He’s going to be there anymore they’re going to have him as a as an opening prelim not prelim like prelims he’ll be an opening main card fighter or a middle of the card main card fighter he won’t be the main event I don’t think again
And if he is it won’t be on a pay-per-view I think that the comments of Dana afterwards he just didn’t seem like I think he was done with the kobby thing I got that Vibe and that feeling is that he just was he he’s he’s kind of tired
Of it you know think about this Dana doesn’t like when you call Fighters and they’re like they try to put like no I want this to happen I want that like no like it seems like Kobe gives them no other option but like let’s just give him the title shot let’s
And you know he’s in that mix he’s always in that mix he waits for you know give me a better opponent give me this guy give me that guy and I Dana’s made it very clear maybe he sells pay-per-views but when you start giving me a hard time you
Start turning down fights then I don’t I don’t have space for you I like guys that fight yeah that’s Dana says it all the time I like I like guys they want to fight yeah makes e makes his job easier I don’t need to play matchmaker when
Fighters are on Twitter going hey I want this fight this fight he’s like [ __ ] it do it like I want guys that fight I want guys that can put their own matchups together you know yeah all right Dave what else you got for us you got
Anything else for us yeah we’re going to wrap up on a high no pun intended very nice day all the pun all the pun well done no pun intent Matt redo is um talking about returning to MMA don’t know if that’ll be UFC doesn’t doubt it but um what do you guys think
Where does he fit in the mix um and at his age of 37 does he does he you know have much of a what weight would he fight at boy that’s the that’s the question I have right now because he was a wewe yeah 70 pound right yeah he was a welterweight but
I he’s going to be I mean I it depends on what he’s going to what he can get back down to yeah and where he would be comfortable but let let’s just put it this way here’s the you know my thoughts on Matt first off I love Matt riddle he
Was hysterical to be around he’s a funny dude he could fight he was tough he can wrestle his ass off okay he had really good wrestling his standup was coming along dude there was tournaments that he was in against Jon Jones and he always came
Out on top in wrestling know the kid can wrestle he has definitely got a good wrestling base he’s he’s got the you know the Gift of Gab he’s got the you know the complete pro wrestling stick down he could come in and and make waves I don’t know what weight class I would
Think it at the minimum he could get down to the middleweight I don’t think he could get to welterweight again that’s asking a lot because he was much younger when he was uh fighting but you take a look and say um you know the problem the reason
He left why did he leave he left because of marijuana at the time they were you know testing for marijuana outside of and he was getting caught because he you know smoked who cares who [ __ ] cares so he can come back he can smoke marijuana he can’t smoke at the day of
The fight okay you know good for Matt riddle I would love to see him back I I don’t know how I don’t know what injuries and what pro wrestling has done to him because you know although pro wrestling uh I can’t say is not real is is a pre uh predetermined outcome the
Bumps are real the bumps are real the you know the the all of the abuse that these guys and their bodies take that’s all real and that’s damage that adds up and slows you down so what are we going to see of Matt riddle if he does come back how
How is his speed going to be how is his body going to be but I would love to see him come back I thought he was fun when he was actually in it to be a fighter and I think he was fun as a pro wrestler he’s got a great personality I would
Love to see someone pick him up yeah I I honestly believe this feels like I mean you went you UFC took a chance on CM Punk I mean this isn’t a chance this is a proven that’s what I’m saying though John like you took a chance on CM Punk
Like why not bring back the guy that you guys already had you know he can fight now how much re no look being removed for 10 years have you been working on your grappling have you working on your standup at all nothing been working on a different type different type of you know
And you know how much is it like how how much how much difference will that make and the sports changed so much in 10 years he can still wrestle but luckily for him if he does go to 85 he does go to 205 whatever it is whatever way class he decides to go
To they haven’t jumped as much as the 35 Pounders the 45 Pounders and the 55 Pounders and so forth I mean they’re still they they’ve got they’ve improved a ton since since uh 2014 but the heavier guys don’t show as much improvement as the lighter guys in
Terms of mixing it up the level of grappling the level of uh stand up those type of things just the transitions from one element to the next yep so when I look at I look at Riddle coming back I I can see him making a little bit of a
Splash I mean at 37 years old you know but I mean if if he’s got the stick down and he can he can sell these fights you know and they pick you know a couple good opponents for him and make it fun let’s just say let’s pull up 85 can you pull up
185 right here let’s say after he’s you know cleared by you not usad anymore but he’s cleared by whatever the company is you know you put him against Paul Craig you put him against uh Chris Curtis who’s a smaller 85 pounder yeah Chris you know and you put him against
You know Anthony Hernandez you put him against you know I mean you could say you could say I don’t know if you want to put him against Anthony Hernandez no flu fluffy dude fluffy can fight I get it I get it but if he can wrestle he can maybe try to hold fluffy
Down Fluffy’s got good submissions also he’s got good submissions off his back he’s one of those guys that does uhhuh but I mean like that fight though a little bit of you know there a little bit of a gimmick a little bit versus the you know I just I think there’s
Something be there could be something there um you wouldn’t give any of these top guys off the off the bat you’d give them somebody no you can’t you’d give them a you know a warm-up fight maybe two and then um you’d have two you know
In 2024 then maybe in 2025 when he’s 30 9 because he turns 38 in February of 2024 I mean there’s something to be said like there’s something to be had there there’s a little bit of you know he’s never going to be Champion they’re not going to Fast Track him that way but
They will pay him to do the gimmick and the stick and the you know try to bring in the uh the WWE fans I mean Dave’s already watering at the mouth to see him come back Dave just just wipe your chin just a little just wipe your chin Dave wipe your
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Big John love you, but you're wrong. . When Michael Chandler fought Dan Hooker, Bruce 100 % said former Bellator light weight champion. Much love from Chris from Covina, CA
colby haters
I didn’t know Josh moved out of California, thank God, where does he live now? Big John is in what, Nashville, Tennessee?
Just cause you are an Ex UFC fighter dont mean you know what it takes to run the show… Including if UFC paid everyo newJOSH'S fantasy money … Nobody would fkn fight, look at PFL and there 1M prize BS fights…. If you are winning three rounds of a 5 round fight, the fighter lay and pray and collect the check… Josh is wrong that all just needs to be paid the Max… Yah when your done there Josh come and Campaign to get my employment sector to pay me more, I work 80 ours a week as a professional and Im scrapping by Waaa Waaa I need mored too Josh help me out brother
I have never liked Colby and glad Jorge took his teeth out. But if he had a broken foot, how can John say it didnt effect his performance???
Been watching combat sports religiously for 4 decades on a weekly basis. Ive never watched a full PFL or Bellator card.
Bro how the fuck should Brian or Rodriguez deserve a title . Brian Ortega has fought no one and has had 2 of them . Yair just got his adds whooped one fight ago . Fuckkk off
But Dave’s humor isn’t funny that’s why the first dude left. Thank god John is as good as a human as he is.
Aljo does NOT want any piece if max halloway….js….max does a lua on his face
It’s crazier how much smarter John is than Thomson .
When is Josh going to respond to Koscheks accusation of watching GLOW together
What a great one! Thank you! 👍
Is Bo's MMA wrestling that good? He needed to knee someone in the groin to get a takedown
Josh,that's cool You took out nate diaz, man!
Bruce did it the first fight of Michael he said former bellator champion go back watch
I love you Josh, but this is not a title eliminator lol. Ortega is 1-3 in his last 4 fights, beating Yair who just got outclassed doesn't get him a shot. He's at least 2-3 wins away.
Where can I get these mushrooms you guys talk about
A little respect on Volk, though. Yair didn't fail to show up. He got shut down.
Best podcast duo in the universe. Merry Christmas gents
Johnny Eblen made 150k as a Bellator champion. Ryan Bader 150k as champion. The legendary Fedor got a measly 100k by Bellator. Salaries outside the UFC are even worse. Vettori is just a contender and he made 330k vs Costa, that's more than double what Eblen as champ makes.
Ufc is built from other organizations stupid. Strikeforce was better than the ufc. All heavyweights 😅
Max Holloway needs to fight Josh Emmett
i don’t understand why people keep talking about UFC pay… you got guys like Volk or Izzy or Jones making over like 2 mill easy.. a fight… but in other promotions the most money they see is from winning some 1 mill dollar tournament.. in Eblens case for example if he REALLY is the best. if he went to the UFC he would be making way more than a mill EACH fight..
Matt Riddle is too old, he said he still pratices bjj and has earned a black belt, but maybe compete in nogi/gi competition. The mma train has already passed him by and wrestling at 38 is not something to look forward too. He hasn't trained striking for over ten yrs and was a total lay n pray wrestler when he competed. His striking was joked on because he was literally shadowboxing in one of his fights, it was never coming along like John mentioned.
Come on John… Gordon Ryan wasn’t allowed to pull guard and wasn’t allowed leg locks. So in a real BJJ match Bo would have been done way earlier. You know that but you choose to ignore it for some reason.
Thank you guys at Weighing in Podcast making all my weeks better
Guys. Guys. Guys. I don’t care about your weekends or last name meaning or your dog or your family, or whatever, we want content. Newsflash asshole. You’re not a fighter anymore, you’re an “entertainer”. Now dance monkey boy! dance for me! And having an ego instead of being more self deprecating, is not how you win over a crowd. Anyway. Too harsh? Sorry, big fan here.😂You gotta get those numbers up though
I'm excited for Josh Thomson Vs Tony Ferguson in BKFC 2024.
So apparently no Irish listen to this podcast, the blarney stone is in the battlements of Castle Blarney County Cork. McCarthy castle is in Killarney
In regards to Whittaker, Ben Askren was out in Australia and he heard rumours that Whittaker was injured prior the Du Plussis fight but Whittaker didn't want to pull out. He had to pull out of other booked fights and didn't want to do it again. I think it's pretty stand-up if this is true. Whittaker never mentioned this post fight or ever since. Fingers crossed he is fit for Costa
brain stick to subs rod will beat in stand up
dern is another stick to subs
Joe is right look at Justin gaethje, Michael chandler, Eddie Alvarez Evan Ben askren, when they came to the ufc they blew up
as a 5% i still dont like the 5 rounds
belt online only its abuse
Erin Blanchfield is going to get annihilated, dude. Come on! Manot is too huge, Blanchfield really has no stand up. As soon as she realizes she can't get Manot down, she'll get TKO'd just like McKenzie Dern.
Good question for you guys. What would be your 12 fights on UFC 300 card?????😀😀😀😀😀. Josh hope you read this, can discuss in the next show.
Even as Bellator/PFL company men (which neither one of you has shied away from in the past), even you guys deep in your core know that Rogan is right. How do I know that? Just a few episodes ago, Josh admitted that Rory Macdonald had never won a world championship in his career. When Big John tried to remind him, it took him a while to remember Rory’s Bellator title. No matter what you say, it’s embedded in your subconscious.
The thing with Colby is he is trying to get heat so people with watch him get his ass kicked. MMA fans are fickle af, he wins 1 fight everyone forgets his trash talk its just how it is
When Josh pulled the real analysis from Jonn regarding the Jiri fight was great. I come here because I want to understand fighting at the highest level. I can't see what you guys see.
Thank you guys for bringin us the pod! Pods are my therapist so it means a lot!
Like number 669
Thanks guys for content to fill my MMA talk tank
Ryan Bader and Eblen both made 150k at Bellator 290. Lmao i know you guys ride for bellator and opponents of UFC but saying that fighters make more outside of the UFC is hilarious. Guys in Bellator making 3/3k. Thats insane lol.
Im suprised you guys didnt talk about Colbys comments after the fight where he used Leons dad in the same sentence as Hilter…..