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B d energy it is Big D energy Big D yeah with big dmac what’s up Chef jar mccardy Matt Shepard with you filling in for Neil rule on this Wednesday on Woodward Sports good to have you yeah absolutely joined by BMG as always in the uh sound

Booth and uh Spen mo rxs one of the busiest guys at Woodward Sports Chef you’ll find out love those guys you learned early any you just y spny help and it works out he comes running doesn’t he he does come running you bet man good good to see you

Bud too brother we uh Happy Holidays to you last time I saw you we were taking a picture and it’s in actually the hour Detroit uh hour Detroit I think it was downtown at the Ted Lindsay golfing is that one of the greatest Tings that one

Of the greatest Tings you can play in there’s so many and and that’s one of the things over the years where um you know I consider you you’re a Detroit kid So you you’re a guy that’s seen it all around here all the different sports we

Talked about you’ve been on the on the airwaves you’ve been on the TV waves everybody sort of familiar it’s always great to be able to uh to chop it up and we’re happy def definitely here at the Woodward Sports Network family that’s your uh peeking your nose yeah it’s good

To be part of it man it really is I I don’t know about the kid aspect of it at one point you stop being a kid but you don’t want to be because you always want to feel like sports brings that kid out in you doesn’t it well here’s the thing

Around here you will be kept Young because as you can see in the booth and throughout as as we’re looking you saw oh yeah Shep got to meet Hollywood Jeff I he he graced with the appearance uh said hello but all the young all the young kids around here and I call them

Kids uh working hard trying to do it so so maybe the veteran the the the kid veteran leadership in the media Mark but you you do make them feel young and vice versa don’t you think I mean there there is a feel here there is a Vibe here that

Makes you go you know what I like being part of this it’s a it’s as close to a locker room perhaps as you can get and that’s what we’ve tried to uh do for the past you know three years I’m I’ll be here three years coming around in

February and stuff and it’s that Locker mentality and you and you look through the roster just like in locker rooms and rosters uh it changes but the it’s more of a next guy up mentality and what we have here my favorite thing right and I

Missed it this week and I missed it the last couple weeks but my favorite thing that we do here at Woodward Sports is the lions live stream and if you haven’t come in for a lions live stream and now we uh Spenny was telling me now we got a

Bet sponsor so uh stuff like this but to the interaction but that’s when you get the vibe of the fellas in the N good bad right wrong or indiffer their true their true fandom comes out but uh we really enjoy getting together for that so

You’ll have to join us for one of those on yeah I would love to do that um you bring up the Lions so it’s a good kicking off point no pun intended the lion helmet is right in front of you this is a team that uh has alternated

Wins and losses in each of the last four do you believe in momentum in sports oh 100% okay 100 100% uh momentum do you believe it in game do you do you believe it on schedule or do you do you believe it in both all three okay all two all

Three every M momentum think about it in life too right where we feel that and ingame momentum in diff in different games I made a joke earlier right in hockey how many times you heard this the two goal lead is the worst lead in hockey well the wings it’s a stupid

Phrase the one goal lead is the most nervous goal lead but you know what sh to that point the the the wings made it uh recently the four goal leads the worst lead but no no where you would and then lost in overtime yeah here’s the

Thing where you say that the one score game no because it it makes s because you’re you have to be on you can’t take a shift off you can’t let the the other team get the momentum because especially in hockey right we call it tilt in the

Ice right the ice can get tilted uh whether it’s long shifts whether it’s power plays stuff like this I think in football it’s it’s the same thing that’s why in all the sports it’s the little things yeah but I would say this when I covered you and I covered you as a

Player you were always great with us to the media but if I said to you you’ve got to be more on in a one-goal game you might have torn my head off and said what in a two-goal game you don’t think I’m on in three-goal game you don’t

Think I’m on and that’s the difference but you’re asking you are you asking In the Heat of the battle playing Darren mccardy as a Prof yeah I got to give you that answer I got to that’s the that’s the athletes answer I got to I can never

Turn it off now it’s the former athlete sitting in the chair as the media member no you’re more dialed in like you have to there’s less room for error so you think there could be there can be a let down so the lions were up 21 Goose it

Can be a law you know what see here’s the thing whether let let’s let’s move it back to football right that’s why doing the little things are so important and not getting them out of the way who in here or who in the Woodward sports.com please join in I see

Everybody here and by the way Lorena Rios it smells like a locker room in Studio B yes you don’t want to go in here everywhere else it’s all good but look here though I mean no no no not up here no here we’re good don’t go to

Studio be in the back anyways I digress but I’m getting back onto my point right the fact is look at the Chicago game yeah right in the the Chicago game in Chicago right after the way it started and I know the tweets and everything else oh we can’t do this we’re down 10

Points we’re getting the ball back at half we made it 1310 and half and what did we do coming out got away from more of less of our game pan running for seven yards a play right we tried to throw boom what happened three and out

Three and out three and out turnover do you see how momentum even against we wouldn’t consider Chicago the world beaters right but but it’s NFL football and anything like that so that’s why continuing dude opposite that look at what they did in the Denver game when

They had the ability to put the finger or the uh the knee on their throat and do the little things by completing passes Jameson William making great catch Gibbs running all these little things Le pora they did it so momentum is even more important because you don’t

Want to get out of here they did they did lose it at one point because Denver did stage a a little bit of a come I I look at it almost from an eagle standpoint the Eagles were 10 in one everybody thought they were unbeatable right suddenly they lose three in a row

This is going to happen San Francisco lost three games in a row Dallas has struggled at times this is what happens you know it better than I do this is what happens in sports it’s not Perfection you’re not going to get Perfection when you start to expect

Perfection that’s when as a fan you lose sight of what truly is what sports is all about you cannot be perfect okay it’s too difficult so you’re going to stub your toe every once in a while no so that’s the reason I ask about the momentum no but momentum is real yeah

Whether in the schedule right so now Philly like earlier the two arguably the two top teams in the NFC are San Fran and Philly right but what do they both go through injuries like everybody else and then and they both have three loss yet they both have lost three straight

Games on their schedule they’re still at one point they’re still at the top was driving in this morning going 10 and 4 right and we feel as lions that we what gave away the Green Bay game gave away the Chicago game I don’t think they gave

Away the Green Bay game I thought the Packers were the better team I’m saying as a fan I’m not I’m not that’s a game I not breaking it down but the thing that we thought on the schedule you would have won you’re sitting here at 10 and 4

You’re sitting here where you haven’t been in these Waters in so long right but you look at the overall yeah this is a 10 and four team can they get better yeah did they do what they needed to do or do they show signs of doing what they

Need to do to snap that momentum like you said Denver all teams in any sport are going to show fight they’re professional athletes at some point it’s just can you counter that right so I think it’s I think it’s great but I think that if you diagnose every team in

The league or whatever they go they have their ups and downs just like we do absolutely where would you rank the Lions right now and NFL wise which teams are better and where would you put them you know what it’s it it comes and it

It’s all help like if if I have my full roster and especially like we saw how big rag now you know being how how our best have to be our best you know you’re right the Dallas game’s going to show you right you’re right there with so so do I think

Baltimore um you know and the in the AFC don’t have to worry but but the Philly and the San Frans are the ones you’re chasing you’re right there with Dallas right you’re on point so it’s a momentum and you’re talking about one more game to clinch the division you should go

Into the Dome in Minnesota with what they’ve got and get it done yeah so with their back quarterback y yeah and and then it sh then it comes down to right do does Philly continue to slide you know a little bit are we going to get a

Home seat are we going to be playing that when the playoff schedule comes out and if you set yourself up for success by being a being a two- seed you know let alone God forbid you’re a one seed and everything’s got to come through Detroit that then reality really sets in

Not just a playoff win but moving further along yeah I’ll be honest with you even if they were the one seed I still don’t think they could beat San Francisco I think San Francis is the best team in football don’t you think that they have a better chance of

Beating San Francisco in the dome absolutely but you would also argue if that’s your point they should have a pretty good chance at beating Dallas because it’s indoors yeah yeah no I consider I consider that Dall like Dallas to me is still Dallas yeah right after last week now yes has has rain

Dakota Prescott gotten better this year is you know stuff like this but sure he has yeah but but I think healthy wise with all our all our weapons I like our chances yeah I I just remember when the when the Packers beat the Lions on Thanksgiving Day the comments I heard

From so many of my friends was well Green Bay is on a rule they’re peing at the right time look at what they’re doing they scare me a little bit I and I said to people why are you jumping to so many conclusions so quickly when

Eventually what do they do they go out they lose to the Giants and then they lose at home to Tampa a team Detroit destroyed down in Tampa okay it’s it’s the es and flows of an NFL schedule now you brought up an interesting name Sam leaport has turned out to be not just

One of the best tight ends in football but one of the best rookies in football I’m not saying he’s going to win rookie of the year but he’s been incredible does that change people’s minds about the importance of that position when he’s as successful as he has been as

Steady and reliable as he has been having one of the best seasons of any rookie tight end in history save John Mackey and Mike dka most of the people out there probably don’t know who they are dick would do do does that change people’s minds about that position cuz I

Think when footb more of the Unicorn now or is it more becoming the norm with that position because wasn’t this what TJ hackinson was supposed to be isn’t this well that’s what he is T.J hackinson is that I mean look at his numbers with Minnesota his numbers are

Incredible okay so that tight end are we talking that position specifically I think too many people view that position as almost like a throwin position that it’s not quite as important I don’t think anymore with what with what the Mark Andrews and the George KD and the Travis k

And you know you name Hawk I think the you know what I first go to is thank God for Brad Holmes right and and knowing talent and whatever and yes and I won’t make you do it Matt but when the young guys here at the station refer to Sam

Leap Porter they say dmax guy Sam leap Porter because I had him out of the rip right as far as being a Difference Maker for this team I think the way that that the NFL is evolved and the way that the tight end is used the tight end is more

Of a wide receiver like it’s he’s a blocker Plus a wide receiver now and I think in the past you know more so they drafted what I you bring up a great point right yes leap pora doing everything that he’s doing with the numbers and unbelievable and stuff like this but

The the whole tight end position that the that the Detroit Lions have Brock Wright you know the backup stuff like this they do it they do a great job as a committee so I think it en enables the porter to get the Breather to be able to

Be as effective as as he is but yes I think more so you know it’s you have to have the talent right which you have to be a a specimen or have the talent which most of these Elite tight end in the leagues have MH right so I think it’s

The evolution that that’s the evolving position more or less remember how it used to be when we were younger like the running back didn’t catch the ball of the back field and then now now they use that West Coast offense and you know you look at Christian mcaffrey is is more

Dangerous out of the back field than he is rushing it yeah I mean it it’s the uh second coming of a Marshall Faulk like player right who uh revolutionized the position I mean we could go back to Walter pyton a long time ago he was really good on of the Back Field they

Just didn’t utilize him quite as much I don’t think people here in Detroit had a chance to see that with Barry Sanders maybe Billy Sims if you’re if you’re old enough to remember that because he was a really good pass catcher but it’s becoming more and more important I think

Especially in today’s NFL where it’s more about passing the football advancing the ball down field than it is running the football where the tight end becomes even that much more important when you can run seam right routes and you can get mismatches with safeties and

Linebackers you are more apt to be uh a little bit more effective with your passing game with an effective tight end than you would be almost with a good wide receiver yeah and and I think also too is don’t forget um the option if I know that this guy’s not in here to

Block all the time and and I got to he’s might fake block me how many times do we see that you know Engage The Block and then the ends wide open in the end zone so you mentioned Frank ragn now you could make the argument that he’s Detroit’s most important player 100% I

Do I do Neil and Neil brings it up but it’s the push from the offensive line and the push from the defensive line yeah which is the backbone has to be at this but Frank ragau yeah he’s a shot caller he’s the he’s the guy that

Touches the ball as much if not more than GF yeah the thing that I love most about you brought a brad Holmes the thing that I I really appreciate what he’s done and I don’t think he’s Flawless but no general manager is what I appreciate what he’s done is that he

Has built this team the right way from the inside out now you were part of some of the greatest hockey teams in the history of the sport how were you built were you built from the back end out do you believe that certain sports are

Built a certain way let me give you an example many people use baseball you got to be strong up the middle I need a catcher I need a set short stop I need a second baseman and a center fielder for defense right in in basketball do you

Believe that the point guard position is vital because they’re Distributing and they’re handling the ball football Inside Out is hockey built similarly from the back end out the net out how what’s your fos look the true Pro Matt Shepard I’ll answer that when we come

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Teams and we had to go to commercial break before you could give me your thoughts on how you build a hockey team and the reason I bring that up is because I want I want to talk to you about something after you give me your thoughts uh about what Dylan Lin

Recently said but how would you recent L even if it’s now or or maybe in the past how is it different or is it the same and if so what way in building the team well I think you you mentioned it when you started talking about it about in

Baseball up the middle right you know pitcher catcher second baseman shortstop center fielder and then you you sort of add from there in hockey you know the bottom line to win championships it’s not about winning games about winning Championship is goal tending you got to H eventually that’s your and usually

That’s your last Peak piece so it’s usually up up the middle and in hoe why is it why is it your last piece why isn’t it your first because they’re so hard to come by it can be your first piece if you do it like Steve Eiserman

Does it and Tampa Bay and drafts vasileski hope we’re hoping that Co is going to be that or because it very rarely works out because why because goldendelight.com usually something you find yourself as you get older so that’s the finishing piece right the new NHL it

Used to be your onec you had to have your your federov or you know your Gretzky your lemie you know your super Conor McDavid right now okay no but then it moved to NHL now is to have your most Sider like your Nick ledstrom your your

Hman you need that the kale marar you need that guy that can play 30 minutes a night and and be out there and control offense defense you know stuff like that so hockey is a different game and you know um but but again it’s it’s a lot up

The middle if you’re going to say the two most important is your golender and your Center Iceman right your one C your goal your Conor McDavid and why doesn’t Edmonton win because the question Mark’s always been in net how many different guys have they stuck in there to try to

Figure it out we were in the same position back in the 90s right my first year was Chev day the trade Forenza then Vernie and Aussie and they finally get it done but then after that you know you had bill ramford then you get Kujo coming in and then we got hassk again

And Manny and you know it it it all moves around so that’s you know it’s more the way that it is right so hockey’s different than foot like with football with right with football now I think that yeah I mean that’s why Philly you know Philly is a a threat on

A regular basis because their offensive line is so good um I think their defensive line has got some really good talent too they might be a little bit light in the back end but I think to your point when you go into a game then we’ll use football since hockey it’s you

Know it’s obviously it’s 82 games it can be challenging on a night to night basis it’s much different now than when Grant fur Andy M sharing net for Edmonton but when you when you go into a game in a football game are you picking the winner

Based on that aspect if you think it’s the most important thing the line inside out both sides if you think that’s the most important when you go into a game are you saying I think this team’s going to win because of that or are you looking at the quarterback and the skill

Positions more cuz I think Mor people look at the ladder no no you’re going to look at your skill positions can they get it done but if you’re going to break it down a little bit more can you protect your guy right the whole thing

Is can can my guy get protected and so I mean it’d be great to be Kansas City who is struggling also a top team who’s struggling right now their offensive line isn’t great no no no but to have Patrick Mahomes who’s a get out of jail

Free card himself right we don’t so here we don’t have that so it’s about keeping jar go U right and when he’s in like you got self-awareness to what you are we we don’t want Jared goof scrambling around well he can’t that’s what I’m saying so

You got to make that’s why the tight end position is so important that’s why the development of Gibbs is so important that’s why the running game because it goes so so that’s why your offensive line is that important that’s a great Point man so is in other words it it’s

Compatible because Goff has certain limitations and every player does because of his limitations you have built around him a strength to minimize the limitations have do we not all agree that when when things are rolling here right and he’s getting the ball out and guys are making run he’s not getting

Touched right and play action and the running game is going all right so let me give you this example then and I’ll go back to Philadelphia you and I both agree a very good offensive line right absolutely yeah then why do they why have they struggled recently and why do

Jaylen Herz lead the league in turnovers with 17 he and Josh Allen two of the more Dynamic quarterbacks in all of football and and two guys that I would argue you would take right don’t give me this I don’t want Josh Allen he turns it over

Too often Josh Allen is dynamic he can beat you with his legs he can beat you with his arm granted he throws too many picks he’s had some of those picks can be very misleading because it’s gone through guys hands and so on and so forth Jaylen Hurtz the same way each has

Seven turnovers on the year and yet each guy has led their team consistently to postseason play so here’s the thing there’s 17 turnovers but tell me how many touchdowns that they’re how many touchdowns have they been a part of either rushing or passing for their team

So so you know what that 17 turnovers looks like to somebody else like four like to another quarterback around the league that can’t get in the end zone that has you know three touchdown passes and one Rush compared terrible so it’s all relative what do I think about those

Two specific guys and a lot of guys that are Uber talented Patrick Mahomes comes to mind too right is they they try things that you know Superman or they try things that they think that they can get away with that maybe somebody else doesn’t yeah I would say I would say

This like I know that not that not that we should always compare okay because sometimes we run into a danger there Jared gof has thrown more touchdown passes than Jaylen Herz he’s throw more touchdown passes than Patrick Mahomes I’m not saying he’s better than them don’t take it wrong but only Dak

Prescott and Brock py have thrown more touchdowns than Jared GF right but but here’s the thing so you can’t see I’m not going to let you use that argument because how many on the ground is he responsible for because he’s responsible for like 15 on the ground you mean

Fumbles no 15 touchdowns rushing how many rushing J Rush how many times has Jaylen Herz been in the end zone how many points is he responsible for right that I can then I could take the tit right because he’s been in the end zone 15 times in the in the with the Philly

Push great Point that’s 14 touchdowns for second most in football yeah but a lot of hold on a second I don’t care what it is Matt it’s but five of those are tush pushes so but he’s in the end zone do you care are at the end of the

Day is this about scoring points and getting in the end zone does it matter if you get it there from the five does it matter how you’re getting there I don’t care God bless Philly for figuring out the tush push to whatever but when you’re saying so with Jaylen Herz I can

Accept and then I ask the same question with Josh Allen rushing how many are they responsible uh because I can take that little stuff if say 17 of those turnovers four or five of them are no NOS because they’re trying to do too much because at the end of the day look

At what they’re responsible for so the fact that jir goof has to be efficient because he’s not running more than what two or three in if they’re from the one yard line on a sneak so so I think that different players you have to when it comes to quarterbacks like that that’s

Why it’s more important for gof to take care of the ball yeah cuz he can’t beat you with his legs right he’s got to beat you with his brain and the whole line and Ben Johnson realizes he’s got to beat now you got to use your talent in

Your and and seven this is one of the big things last week what Jameson Williams how many targets you can’t have this kid touching it twice he’s got four with seven targets so is he getting in jir Gibbs we look at how he’s worked in look at all the young guys how they’re

In lorta so it’s the game plan yeah well I I you know as far as the the Jameson Williams I I understand that because he’s a first round pick he’s got great speed but there’s only one football to go around to leaport Aman St Brown David Montgomery jir Gibbs and Jameson

Williams got the same sort of problem they fig fig it out so who cares as long as they they’re Mak plays getting in the end yeah there’s there’s just primarily a three-headed monster but I get what you’re saying yeah I mean with Debo Samuel they find ways to get him in K

Auk is the most underrated receiver in the freaking NFL that you haven’t heard of name a guy that you’d want what’s his fantasy Spenny is he not right you think KD maccaffrey Debo but what I’m saying is so there’s enough balls to go around cuz everybody can get fed at the end of

The day yeah good enough um we we bring up the the Red Wings at the start of this conversation for a reason uh Dylan Lin came back um unfortunately it didn’t mean a win for the Red Wings uh but he came back the other day and I I wonder

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Type A personalities for the most part and yet at some point you were a leader you’re a leader on your team at one point and then you get to this highest level and there’s a guy who’s wearing the c or another guy wearing the a

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Can can I just make a a really bad confession I have been to nearly maybe two tailgates in my life really just because usually I’m working games I’ve always worked games that makes sense so I have not had that opportunity I think that if you went tailgating you’d want

To go with the heavyweights and the way that do it down Spencer gets it done Spencer gets get it done uh I’ll leave that to the heavyweights I’ll leave that to the heavyweights yeah they’re in a different atmosphere they are they are Jeff’s on the Jeff’s at the DAC right

Spre spre easier cross cross the street with the PE we all but you know it’s different levels we s Jeff suit and TI right it is I ain’t putting a goddamn suit tie on here’s what’s happening Jeff is out there serving his people while or I mean Spencer is out there serving

His people who are Jeff is expecting to be served no no well that’s see you’ve learned something about juicy but you know he’s with the constituents you know the upper you know he sits in those meetings he drinks that cavasier Jeff e and couscous and beef wellington I’m good with a hot

Dog absolutely couple dogs couple dogs nothing wrong with that who wants more beans uh welcome welcome back to Big D energy yeah Spencer rexer is our producer and Mike Gentry and jeffi Freddy helping us out soft hands soft hands no sneeze Michael Gentry worst sneezer ever in the in the world really

You work been working on that at all Gentry no haven’t been practicing in the mirror too much but yeah that means you haven’t been sick that was a question to see how your physical health was well he’s probably not married once he gets married he’ll have to calm that down a

Little bit um look the the Red Wings Are Back In Action tonight right they’re in Winnipeg I believe Dylan Lin has come back we we talked about the the importance of a captain but he he was injured not too long ago all right right talk about that

You know you know what that’s all about right yeah what he said is slightly concerning I think uh not just from an athletes standpoint but I think from some fans I don’t take it too deep but he did say in in so many words you know

You’re just not sure on the ice that you’re going to be protected and he’s talked to a lot of players about that as a guy who played a very physical game and I think Gary bman wrongfully has kind of taken that out how important do you think it is that the commissioner in

The league in general be that Watchdog knowing full well that they don’t allow the Watch Dogs on the ice any longer just teing me up man like a sh just even threw Batman’s name in there the guy that ruined my game ruin dude the most you nailed it forget all the the BS

Forget all the SM like whatever like that everybody who knows me knows that this ain’t my game I had to rewatch it but to hear a captain of your team but a player in a league say I don’t know if I’m safe or we’re going to get protected

By the league the one thing that I was sure about right is that all my teammates yeah we knew they had had your back but there was some sort of Unwritten rule right the biggest thing that I said about the Dylan Lin play is the fact that the the guy that

Did it feels okay to put your stick there like it’s the deterrent the deterrent back in when we played that somebody was going to ring your bell or or come out there and you know the whole say the anticipation of death worse and death itself right because you got to fight

Somebody and at the end of the day but be but guys wouldn’t get their there wasn’t the high sticks to the Head a guy falling down you just have more care in those situations like if you were going to line a guy up clean and and absolutely light him up that’s part of

The game you’d go to light a guy up and he’d sort of turn and you’d pull up and you’d say bro you owe me you’re like I could have killed you right like this but there’s a respect factor to those conversations take place on the ice you’re saying right there oh hell yeah

Back in the day I mean I’m sure they do all now because everybody knows each other they cut deals but there’s certain yeah when you play that violent of a game at the level that I did or we did you got to we we call it cutting deals

You got to cut deals with some guys so right I’m not going to hit you from behind Chelly so you don’t hit me from behind or whatever whereas you’ll see other guys right they’ll swing sticks at each other right that’s their deal right there’s sort of a respect because if I

Get that respect it it feeds down to my guys also so yes they they don’t give but you’re acting like they ever cared about player safety and stuff they act like they do they care about the the the the dollar and you know what it bothers

Me it bothers me a lot that you have your captain coming out and good for him to say that cuz he honestly feels that way but the game’s too fast do you it’s responsibility but do you look at him differently because he said

It no I look at him like a g I look at him like [ __ ] yeah leadership like [ __ ] call it the way it is right because maybe a younger guy in any league right if he talks out he’s talking out of school Dylan Lin is the captain he’s earned that much respect

He’s been injured it’s ain’t the first time look at the Jamie bed cross stick to the back of the neck right that thing’s worse than that that that was worse than anything ever so um but jie Jamie Ben’s a veteran he should know better than that he’s also

Notorious scumbag yeah okay so so notorious scumbags can’t be dealt with the way that they used to be dealt with NE them in the head and smash the face against the board put him in a freaking fetal Turtle position get four minutes to rough and score the overtime winner

That’s done right thank God back then it was Brian Burke and the way that the league was run that they knew that the most hated guy needed that right so that that when you say you act like they ever cared I think they did back then yeah when the game was different right

Now they don’t they haveen for a long time it’s about trying to get the dollar it’s about expend they rather worry about the the the what the show in Vegas looks like and the fact of getting Vegas to the finals for you know for viewership and stuff like this than

Taking care of anybody like when when guys realize they’re Expendable and until like you’re one of the upper upper upper Elite you know like in any sport that it’s shouldn’t have bother you more that all they got was a two-minute penalty more so yes yeah yes so there’s

No accountability right to to the league either that’s the that’s the that’s the disappointing thing how you change here how do you how do you change it I I don’t how do you change anything if something’s wrong right systematically where’s the where’s the fault what do we

Call for right what do we call for who who’s who do you want Chang for the Pistons in this losing streak right if it a it’s not the G it’s the owner you got to change who’s running the show it’s never going to change with Batman

It hasn’t his game has evolved into the European they the best thing for the NHL is that they changed all the ice to Olympic size size ice so then at least got like but there’s no accountability right my biggest problem is the fact that a guy thinks it’s okay

To get his stick up that high yeah right without repercussion or the league or knowing hey I’m only going to get 2 minutes right and now we’re talking the biggest thing because you’re talking about neurological you’re talking about CT you’re talking about stuff that’s a little bit different at least back in

The day you know when we Dro their gloves you might break your nose or get cut or whatever like that but that could be fixed yeah it it’s it’s about not just careers but it’s about people’s livelihoods or their lives you know how their quality of life

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Welcome welcome cats and thank you for being so [ __ ] consistent there’s such b takes on the L play hoey is a physical game that hit on lurin was not unique you should Su and then he goes on about oh you can’t suspend guys every time they get hit or whatever he cross

Checked them in the fcking neck right it’s about accountability to your to your hockey stick right there is no accountability if you’re going to do that to protect each other yes sort of the unique play as far as how he got hurt but is did the stick not come

Across the his face his neck to stuff like this it’s about a count see you have no accountability to yourself or the chat to your chat you just spew garbage right what I’m talking about is accountability to your hockey stick on the ice that even back in my day as

Physical as it was right but there’s sort of Unwritten rules now some guys Dino cicerelli he he’d swing that thing like anybody else but guys knew that right but there’s a respect level and don’t say like well no one some’s got to you need something to happen right do

You need did do we not know what happened over in Europe right right A guy got escape this high in the air and stuck it in a guy’s throat the problem is whatever made him think that he could ever have his skate that high right right like do you guys

Not not figure skating look nobody suggested during our discussion nobody suggested that you penalize or suspend somebody for every hidden hockey we didn’t say that about Gus’s hit on on cam C did we no we didn’t we’re we’re suggesting a suspension over an illegal act there is a much different point than

Doing something illegally on the ice and that was illegal compared to being a physical force on the ice two different things so you have to differentiate between the two you would know better than anybody because you’ve been there I think the the problem is this too many

Of us and I I use who’s ever in the chat I’m I’m sorry I don’t know his name I’m not going to be who’s ever in the chat and me and I don’t I don’t care who we’re talking about I don’t care if it’s Mike I don’t care if it’s Spencer we

Don’t know the unwritten rules you do yes so we have to and I love being told the unwritten rules of the game that I played I know as passionate as we may be and I’ll just use the three of us outside of that world that that you

Belong to outside as much as passion as we have toward a sport or a team or a player and sometimes that goes over the line too we don’t know the unre you have to give yourself the understanding that you don’t know and that’s a hard thing

To do in sports it’s a hard thing to do in life I think I say it all the time there are I say this to my kids all the time there are two phrases that are the hardest things to say in the world I

Don’t know I am sorry you can put I was wrong instead of I don’t know I don’t know the written rule or Unwritten rule you do he doesn’t know the unwritten rule you do that person on the stream does not know the unwritten rule they have to admit

That and nor do I and that person will never admit it but the rest of you are smart out there it’s it’s it’s the same thing when we’re talking about injuries right now Mikey we’ll go to BMG he’s our Redwing Insider and stuff like that it’s great to have Lin back obviously Shep

You said not the result we wanted at home but you’re going back into Winnipeg playing a Winnipeg team of Kyle Connors but we got injuries too right you mentioned the hit on clim costom what’s going on with Billy husso and Billy huso is uh on IR uh obviously it’s

Retroactive today so seven days is his limit and then he could be back but you uh called up and signed Hutchinson to a two-way contract uh Hutchinson obviously a veteran goalie we’ve seen a little bit of him last year but overall the goalie situation DM we’ve talked about it three

Goal tenders has been a problem since we’ve started the season and we thought finally thought we were going to get to that point where we could offload one of those guys and now we’re right back into that same situation having another terrible goalie problem so they got to

Figure something out I I hope that there is maybe a trade for a goalie along the line someone that’s more stable and uh consistent but uh yeah they definitely have a problem in that right now well you’d have to give something up to do that number one and number two how many

Teams that feel like they are poised for a possible playoff push would give up what de called earlier the most important position on the ice yeah and not to mention there is so many other teams like Edmonton like dmac had brought up that are have goal ending problems so they’re in the same

Situation looking to unload a guy and uh it’s it’s it’s just a tough position to be in especially with the Red Wings losing three out of the last four and then you play Winnipeg tonight in Flyers uh Winnipeg without Kyle Connor you’re hoping you can get a win but in hockey

When you’re playing at someone else’s bar and it’s a hard hard game no matter what and then the Flyers you just got shut out with them uh shut out against them at their Barn so you hope on Friday they can get a big win but uh it it’s

It’s looking like a tough stretch of games and they’re going to need to bounce back they use the word fragile which scares the hell out of me okay I mean their their coach is saying we’re a little fragile right now which is surprising they’ve lost three in a

Row but prior to that they were playing some pretty good hockey right well is it is it sorry shf is fragile because of the injuries or is it did you take it as mentally fragile because mentally fragile and and physically fragile there’s a big difference right there a

Agreed I I try not to read too much into too many quotes Okay because I I think we can jump to conclusions but I think that’s a poor choice of words is all I’m saying the word fragile people take and run with fair or unfair they take and

Run with it and they feel like you know what this team is not as quote quote tough as it needs to be look I don’t care what anybody says when you are a fan here’s what you end up doing and I do it too I’m guilty you compare every

Team you have to your favorite team from before so every Redwing team moving forward until they win a cup is going to be compared to your teams every Tigers team is compared to 84 they are because they want a championship the lions are skating right now because there’s nothing really for

Them to compare them the Pistons right now are being compared to the most recent Championship days Ben Wallace and so on and so forth teams can’t stand it okay I work with Gibby a lot he’s a good friend of yours as well yeah Kirk Gibson in Los Angeles

The Dodgers until they won the covid shortened season that team Clayton Kershaw and everybody got so sick and tired of seeing Gibby in 1988 with the Dodgers winning the World Series they got sick and tired of it the 1984 team got tired of seeing the 1968 highlights

All the time and people talking about the 1968 team so this is what’s going to happen this team is going to be compared to your teams or maybe even the most recent Stanley Cup team maybe it’s not always the team that you know won back-to-back championships and and 4 and

11 but overall that’s the that is the measuring stick and that’s what’s going to happen well but but again we’re talking about how the gamees changed how it doesn’t matter to fans I I men yeah you’re right with the fans now now the fragile comment okay yes I can concur

That is probably a bad choice of words but when I immediately hear it I got to look I look and see oh injury-wise cuz no one comes out and tells you their team is mentally fragile not in that DNE although Monty Williams said we got a tough time with the basketball

Teams with adversity and stuff like that but I don’t think this Redwing team is mentally fragile I think that they’re going through some injuries right now which is part sure part of the season and stuff but it’s also a great opportunity for guys to step up so yeah

I I don’t think you can play quite honestly I don’t think you can play any sport being mentally weak but I don’t at at the highest level I sure as hell don’t but what I’m saying is this team when you use that word I think the immediate gravitation towards people is

Fans specifically is that uhoh they’re not as tough as mccardy mpy Draper go on and on and on facts but no different game but you know what I’m saying have to no no exactly but it’s F it’s facing that adversity right right it’s getting held it’s it’s just part of

Being you know the bottom line is I look at this team right I know like everybody else where we got to get better the goal tending and and you know we’re waiting you know for Edwardson and maybe Johansson and whoever else to come up you know solidify the blue the one thing

That I like I love I think the Patrick Kane uh side is going to pay off in dividends I think that that that it’s going to work we’re we’re a so much better team than we were last year at this point we can score goals right can

We keep them out of the net not in the last game but yeah you’re right I look I I love their offense too but I I will say this Mike’s a passionate Red Wings fan he’s a Believer listen to the tone of his voice look at his body language

About how disappointed he is right now about this team and it’ll tell you right now the confidence level I don’t care if they’re better than last year’s team at this time they should be that’s not the measuring stick the measuring everybody out the measuring stick’s playoffs right

So that’s it so keep yourself in the hunt right and and it’s EVs and flows so here’s the whole thing is that when the go get tough you got to dig dig in that’s why it’s a perfect opport is tonight Mikey in your in your dismay

With your Red Wings team is tonight uh a good opportunity to go into Winnipeg without missing their top guy um they’re play better but to Wi to win take two points yeah no it’s definitely a great opportunity to take two points but I think that Anaheim game at home

Like you those are games you have to have Anaheim is not a good team they’re not great on the penalty kill they aren’t even great at scoring goals to wait till the first one’s over then we’ll worry about the game on Friday no I’m saying that was Adam Henri is a the

Game that they should have won but today I as you move forward games like today in Winnipeg and Philadelphia those are must-win games when you’re dropping three out of four the teams you should have beat so but but to their credit those teams are playing better and you’re struggling a little bit injuries

To whatever else you just got to find a way to do it yeah can’t get too far behind remember what I said about early in the season banking those wins well guess what right now you’re going to the reserve and using up that Grace really important no doubt all right no it it

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Uh Walker cup here guys driving the green on 18th you ever play golf over uh cross the pond I have not but I would love to it’s phenomenal put it on the you’re driving that green huh um yeah I think uh it gets a lot of

Roll out get a lot of roll out we’re just looking at 18 at St Andrew’s here anyway SP Mo Rax Big Mike Gentry why you take me why you take me one day take me one of those let’s go we’re going I think we’re going over we’re planning on

Going over not this summer but next summer who’s your foresome who who who do you play with most oh who do I do I play with most so my buddy Rob Watson okay um is is uh we we play um and then I’d say uh Jim toet um who over the

Years have played a ton with and then my boy Nick anucci would be another one probably those are four do uh Doc Ryan’s a good one too and and we uh I play Thursday game for the last couple years out the Flyn Alex nice I love that track

Man so much fun so la last summer I had one of the best well forom in golf I’ve ever had I played 18 holes with Allan traml Lance parish and Kirk Gibson Lance is my dude I mean all those guys are my guys D I’m

Not kidding you man it it was I so had to do I I went fandom for a moment took the selfie had a great time send it to all my my best buds right all my guys from Junior High and school it in R it

In and I said hey man this is our foresome love you guys cuz we always have a golf on I said but this is this pretty special the response was uh rather unique there’s no F few shots a lot of it’s unbelievable you but what’s here what’s interesting and I Spencer

Was I he had me rolling when he was talking about those draft picks so and and they were awful don’t get me wrong I mean don’t don’t forget as much as I like Luke Canard the the the miss by the the Pistons in back-to-back years okay how’s Donovan Mitchell doing 37 the

Other night but um you you look at some of these late draft picks all time I mean you and I were just talking about the Philly offensive line right you know where Jason Kelce was ch chosen we we always look at the Detroit draft picks right Jason Kelly was a six

Round pick Kelsey was picked sixth round 191st overall Philly so everyone would go oh what a great pick by Philly Philly took Five Guys ahead of him what took him so long this this guy’s going to be might be a Hall of Fame Center um there there’s so many misses that you have

It’s just incredible you brought up something just before the break that I really caught my eye or caught my ear and that is about accountability and it’s about you know having toughness being able to fight through adversity I believe is what you said Florida State University has had some adversity right

Absolutely you can make the argument that they should be in the college football playoff and you can make the argument that they’re not I I think what many people forgot at the time I’m not saying they belong there because I don’t think they’re one of the top four teams

In the country however the the committee said well they’re without their starting quarterback by the time they play on January 1 right that’s when the college football playoff is January 1 and then the national championship is January 8 by the time they play their second string quarterback would have been ready

He was in concussion protocol so they act like they were going to play with a third string quarterback in the National semi-finals and that’s not true they would have played with their second but my point is Mike norell the head coach at Florida State who’s done a wonderful

Job finished second to kayin dor in coach of the year has come out and basically said this has been one of the most challenging couple of weeks of coaching I’ve ever had he said this is because of that they’re not being accepted that players are still struggling during practice that they’re

Not in the college football playoff we talk about the softness in our society today compared to Back in the Day quote unquote and without sounding too much like old guy here that is really disturbing to me that a coach is willing to let that seep in when they

Still have a major bowl game still have something major to play for an undefeated season and they’re still allowing something that was decided a couple of weeks ago to seep in and what appears to be at least on the surface ruin their practice schedule for their

Bowl game it’s an injustice to his team well the the toughest part is what do you know you talking about as a parent or whatever like this what what is one of the things that we’re always told or you’re always preaching control what you can control right and the hardest part

Is Florida state did everything that they were supposed to do and the decision was out of their control so you can go you can go listen fork in the road for the coach which way do you want to go do you want to wa make the right W

As me and more into like you eluded uh 2023 Society or do you want to go old school and I would have played the Martyr I would have played go show them how do you so now it’s it’s it was I mean yes it’s disappointing yes I

Don’t know if if it’s right um pretty much you know Florida State played that season with nothing on the line as far as couldn’t no matter what win a champion National Championship but they still got stuff to play for and you know kids whether to be drafted I get the

Disappointment but you got to but life that’s life control what you can control you did everything that you could do and unfortunately it wasn’t your time so you can either wo as me and go out and try to win a big ball game you’re still playing in a big

Ball right against a great team yeah yeah but here’s what bothers me how many times has that Coach and he’s done a hell of a job you know he’s still a young guy he’s only 42 years old done a hell of a job how many times do you think at halftime during his

Tenure has told if not the team some type of position group or a player you’ve got to play through it you’ve his quarterback may have thrown two picks in the first half and they’re down 17-7 he goes into the locker room does he say oh

Man this is going to be a tough second half man I don’t know how we’re going to do it this is going to be really challenging or do you say learn from that mistake fight through this you’re better than that you know you know what’s interesting Practice What You

Preach you know what’s interesting Chef right and this will be interesting to see as it gets closer with a two weeks out maybe this is a self-awareness and purging that they’re all doing it together that he know maybe this is leadership okay because he sees that

These guys are W and what right like this and he’s trying to get it out of them but maybe he makes it public maybe he goes okay we’re all going to [ __ ] and moan and we’re going to to be this until it’s time not to be if this

Lingers and it goes into they’re still talking about it going into the bowl game and stuff like this and they go out and lay an egg and stuff like this well we know that there was they they quit like they folded shop but maybe this is

An opportunity but when do you move on but maybe this is a new 2023 that you take the buffer in the middle we weren’t allowed the buffer growing up you had to get over it get through it you know push Beyond maybe with this time because he’s taking the temperature of his players

That they’re moping around that oh wo was me we did everything we can do now right maybe he’s taken the different tack because it hasn’t worked us against them think we’ll see when this team comes out if it’s ready to play or if they’re going to play for something

Because you still you’re right they some of them still have something to play for or if you were really pissed off and this is how you felt then why don’t you just not you can’t turn down the money for the ball game no no no I I I’m not

Suggesting that but Mike and Spencer you guys are younger than we are okay I I feel bad for you to a certain extent you when you have a coach saying things like this almost built-in excuses for a team that’s how I look at it like if I’m the

Coach I’m like screw them let’s go show everybody let’s let’s open up a can of whoop ass on this team we’re about to play and prove to everybody that we truly are keep us in the conversation make sure you Pro to them that you were wrong instead it’s almost like it’s a

Built-in excuse where is if they lose it’s like we just couldn’t get through it it was a really tough week or two or three or four to get ready for this when you guys hear a 42y old man talking about this type of atmosphere and what should be high intense practices as you

Get ready for major bowl game we never would have heard this yeah from any coaches back in the day what what do you guys think I think he’s not doing his job correctly like he’s doing a disservice to these kids he should have them focused on the next game he should

Have them getting ready for whoever they’re playing in their bowl game rather than lamenting on what they didn’t get what’s in the P what’s in the past is in the past you didn’t make the playoff some people think it’s fair some people don’t I personally think they got

It right and put the right teams in but you got to get over that you got to show these kids like yeah it sucks but life’s not fair so now we got to do what’s in front of us now we have to look at what’s ahead of us we should be focusing

On this next team instead of complaining about not getting yeah I I am it’s not fair but I I’m so tired of hearing we did everything we could for 13 games so dmac just said it Mike Norvell has said it as well at some point you’ve got to

Turn the page yeah but maybe that’s well let’s pay attention on the back burner to if the narrative changes is next week this might be this week’s narrative it might not saying it’s right or wrong but maybe May if what do you do Shep if you got 50 players moping around or whatever

You got to you got to this is relating to the younger right saying ah yeah you’re right I know you’re wrong let’s take this week I’m just speculating let’s take this week and [ __ ] and moan and feel sorry for ourselves and then next week we’re not we’re going to go

Back and we’re going to show them that’s to me that’s what it seems like because if spenny’s right if you’re taking this TCT and it’s going to be the whole narrative about we just can’t get over it we can’t believe it no it’s it’s a look I appreciate your perspective and I

I I don’t I’m not thinking you’re wrong here I I need I need to hear things like that all I’m saying is this is not a week after it happened this continues this has been weeks plural of what’s taking place and I think it’s a dangerous way to go about it that’s all

I beny nailed it as far as he’s not doing as a coach and as a mentor he’s giving doing these kids a disservice unless it’s a tactic or a game plan yeah you would think he would be trying to like hype his team up and saying let’s

Go beat this Georgia team and prove that we should have been in there instead he’s still making up excuses on why they should have been in the playoff you’re playing a Georgia team that should have realistically been in the playoffs in some people’s eyes so go out there win

That game and prove that you should have been in there stop making excuses Shep real quick what if Florida State goes out and beats Georgia as that art to whatever happens between Alabama and Michigan whatever happens between Texas and Washington that’s their best case for for anybody giving them the backing

And then you could walk around dropping your nuts all over everywhere saying you know we did it and you guys were wrong so look I I think his comments and I know you got to get to a break here these comments are best suited for after the fact you guys the football practices

Are not open they’re not open skates where I can just sit in the stands and watch you and guys go over your power play all right football practices are closed him telling the media he doesn’t have to reveal this all right that could be taken inh house that could stay inh

House guys this has been a tough Challenge in a couple of weeks we’re not going to let it creep in we’re not going to talk about it and give people a reason to to doubt us instead we’re going to go out there look he’s absolutely right Mike’s comment about

Georgia a lot of people feel like they’re still one of the top four teams in the country so Florida State can cry all they want George’s got a reason to [ __ ] about it too I don’t hear Kirby Smart saying this stuff mhm and there you go a great point just

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Crowder the first Red Wings Stanley Cup 84 World Series with Gibby dmax goal in the Stanley Cup finals and meeting parish and Harwell when he was a kid oh man those are his top five Detroit sports good for him those are good ones man those are really really good ones

When you guys won your first cup I’ll never forget this at Joe Lewis Arena i instead of being on press row or being down in in the bowels of Joe Lewis Arena where they put the the extra press which was I decided to to walk up to the

Concourse area and then out on you know to to one of where the stairs take you just to the top okay and I’ll never forget this in the waning moments standing next to a police officer and we both looked at each other and we we were we were we were crying we

Were crying and and I looked at he said this is unbel it was it sends chills my my arm right now just talking about it how special that was it it really is there’s so much made of the 1968 team for the Tigers and what they did

For the city of Detroit it’s probably the most important championship this City’s ever had in that regard for race relations however when you guys won what that did to at least a a younger generation was really special too well it served up you know first champ first championship for the hockey team and

Stuff like that but sort of after the Pistons you know had won the Tigers won the Pistons W it was always where are the wings there was either you know wings or lions cuz lions were good back in the you know early mid90s you know yeah they were good they weren’t

Championship good but yeah and then to your point the 1989 Pistons I thought the 88 Pistons were just as good as the 89 Pistons quite honestly they just got jobed yeah but the 198 eight Pistons along with some of the Red Wings teams you played on arguably the best

Team this City’s ever had um because of the depth and because of the talent speaking of Pistons they have lost 24 in a row they will not play today they will play tomorrow and they will beat Utah to snap the slide is wait wait wait hold on is

Where’s the confidence SL that that was a Mike J Redwing confidence level on that you they’re going to beat Utah to break the slide you think they’re going to beat Utah to break the slide I do it’s one of their best chances for sure I I think it is their best chance for

Sure but but you had mentioned earlier Spencer the reason this at the very beginning of the show you were doing a read and you were saying you know the Pistons have to lose x amount I think you said 11 11 more days 11 more days

Okay cuz they have if they lose two more games in a row they tie the record the NBA record for consecutive losses and your 11 days is referencing you want to break it no 11 days if they don’t win in 11 days that’s two straight months two straight months two straight

Calendar mons calendar months you know the last time they won was their home opener oh man I want you to think about that for a moment we were two and one I know yeah it was game two of the World Series in Texas oh jeez that’s how long

It’s been since they won and and here’s what I wonder and look I root for them too big time man I I wish they’d go back to the red white and blue uniforms a little bit more but okay whatever do you do you think people the the interest rate is

Higher because they’re losing and they’re they’re chasing a negative historical significance or do you think people are are watching because they they love the Pistons no I think that more so now cuz they’re couple couple close that the games to watch if they break the record once they break the

Record once they break the record I don’t think you know I think that that the dips yeah the die hards will always watch Spenny said he was done with them but he lied I did lie he he’s a liar when did you say dip he’s got to dip

Back in every game he dips in for a little bit when did you say you’re done um when they lost to Washington by 20 points oh when Kyle kozmo went off yeah yeah yeah when they got by the that was home he said the served us that’s enough

Yeah I that’s a that’s a homegrown guy I don’t know how they they didn’t somehow go after a guy like that who seems and and Washington by the way has just four wins on the year they’re four and 22 yeah they’re twice as many as us yeah

That’s that’s pretty sorry uh so you think more people are watching they’re getting more national attention in that negative nationally 100% right because you I mean this is like the you know the 0 and 16 year people tune in the Lions just to see if they can’t win a game you

Know the same this this doesn’t happen watch but here’s the thing the question I walked in the back to Kool-Aid and juicy jeffi Fredy are Pistons they were doing Pistons talk MH and I think more people the question is is that if they if they do lose 26 27 don’t you just

Want him to lose 80 no no I never I never look at it like that what you know what the second longest losing streak in the NBA is right now 22 no I mean right now oh right yeah the Spurs right no six five that’s the longest losing streak

But I’m just saying like when does something change right when does something change is that what people are waiting for so so to answer your question people are dialed in now until after the record’s broken especially nationally also right and then until things are changed Spenny will you still

Dial in after they break the record or are you like more are like when you said you’re done are you more and more done through each loss yeah it’s definitely more disheartening every time they lose and like especially when they’re getting blown out I did watch

The last game I I watch so so it’s all words yeah it is it is it’s all words we we say that for effect as fans yeah you know what I’m done you and I got a friend who used to say I’m Lions Free bull Roar you’re not that’s what makes

You a fan and that’s okay but you you get so emotionally tied to teams and players where you’re like I’ve had it I’m done and then you come back and you’re like yeah I guess I did watch him so you can’t be done they pull you in it’s Godfather Three all over again

Every single time I think the question asked Shep is right so we do this here when we talk the basketball right because of PES but do you like K Cunningham I do do you like Jay Ivy I do in a certain role do you like Aur Thompson with being the youth you’re GNA

Get are you opportunity I I think he’s athletic I don’t have an opinion on him just yet I think it’s too early to say but I like what I see early on Jaylen Duren yeah I think he’s yeah I think they have I think they have pieces that

Are not complete I think you know they’re obviously all very athletic but they’re they’re they’re missing certain components there are certain things about a team I don’t care what sport you’re talking about that you you have to have something that meshes prop properly okay and I’m not just talking

About chemistry I’m talking about something that compliments one another and I don’t think they have that right and I think that that your point to saying that that is in but but the fact is they have ingredients that we’re waiting to see which draws you into watch so it’s not about the losing

Streak it’s not about that because there is Talent there that we like to watch and we root for right so we haven’t quit on the whole them theme of the team the thing is is that you nailed it shf key components just to win games we’re not talking about winning playoff games

We’re not talking about championships to win games in the NBA they are absolutely missing correct absolutely absolutely they missed four yeah that’s a lot too uh now you can you can make it up quickly but it’s it’s a lot I get tired of seeing not just the Pistons but any team Miss open

Jumpers and Miss free throw defensive assignments can I can I ask yeah you’re going to see that a lot you know when when teams are averaging 130 points a game Indiana can score man I mean it’s unbelievable I I I’ve never believed that they’re totally a a Buy in

Per se in in in the NBA in defense until it gets a little bit later is shooting the basketball in the state of Michigan at the utmost worst that it’s ever been that you can remember and I mean State Wolverines Pistons to your point the little things Shep right the

Little things the and and in not the job but but the bench role player in the NBA no matter who he’s playing for gets a open look right right he’s nailing that he’s four to five times we can’t nail it twice why don’t why not just the Pistons

But why don’t we get it when the Pistons last won what made them so effective defense and Richard Hamilton and taan Prince and those guys like those guys could hit the mid-range jumper you don’t have that today and I don’t buy that it’s all because highlights on the

Various networks are showing nothing but dunks and three-point shooting but it just doesn’t seem like there’s a crisp cutter it doesn’t seem like there’s good ball movement it doesn’t seem like they’re patient enough or they have the quote unquote fundamentals of setting proper screens and making proper passes

To the outside outside hand and things like that there are the little things that you’re talking about I think field goal percentage and free throw shooting those are big things I think the little things that they’re missing are the the the various things that we just talked

About that often times we don’t watch um I I’ll use football as an example again the inside interior play of your guard and your Center are vital to success like when I watch a football game I don’t watch the ball I watch the guards head goes up it’s a pass head goes down

It’s a run and then I find the ball basketball I’m watching guys away from the ball I’m not just watching a guy pound it on the deck between the circles calling horns every single time I’m watching what the other guys are doing to get open or to get somebody else open

And I just don’t see them doing that very well yeah I could be wrong you know what you don’t hear right live game right the shoes squeak yeah how many how many times you but the but like always movement to whatever squeak squeak but and it just seems like it’s mundane spny

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Not a gambler but tomorrow they break it I think tomorrow they beat Utah nice Utah shoots worse from the field than Detroit does believe it or not oh so it should be what kind of what kind of game it’s just a feeling I think it’ll be

High scoring so you don’t think it’s a Utah get right G I don’t know is 128 123 high scoring I don’t know something like that that sounds about right yeah but you why does everybody seem to if they’re struggling get their shots off against Detroit that’s a great question

Why would I think Utah who has what I think 11 wins why would I think Detroit would beat them at home when they couldn’t beat Washington team I know I know it’s just a feeling I hope I’m right if I’m wrong I don’t think people will remember there are 41 bowl games in

College football 41 how many is too many um as opposed wait quick question cuz next year we’re going to the 12 team playoff which to me won’t settle anything but go ahead okay but will it be more than 41 then next year no I don’t think so okay no so look if

There’s sponsors out there I’m I’m I’m a guy who’s always believed this if there’s I want the mid Majors I want the smaller schools to get an opportunity to go play I mean they’re practicing every single day too Old Dominion those guys are on not the band but Old Dominion

Football those guys are on scholarships too it’s a good band too but those guys are on scholarships they get the opportunity to go play at six and six I know it may not be the greatest bowl game in the world go play but go give them a chance give give their fan base

An opportunity give them a chance to put a a championship trophy in in their school’s workout facility even though they lost to Western Kentucky one of the biggest blows I’ve ever seen in my life I could not believe that game um that’s for perhaps a different story but what a

Great story that was with that here’s here’s the thing chef with the bulls 41 games right we always hear about oh this guy’s going to sit out and this guy’s going to sit out that’s not the norm the guys that sit out are the guys who are trying to protect their draft stock

Correct to a lot of these mid major teams and everything else this is a showcase this bull is a showcase how do you think the Brad Holmes draft the Malcolm Rodriguez even though he went to Oklahoma State power but to the example the Jason galy right late rounders how

Do you get these late round guys to me this is more of the Showcase so if you want to see you know some Talent or hear of some talent because that’s usually when the draft comes around you’re like oh yeah this guy showed out you know in

This bowl whatever like that I agree with you 100% and that’s where you create stories too so I just brought up the Western Kentucky quarterback no one’s ever heard of Kaden velt Camp because I sure as hell never did he’s a redir freshman coaches told him before

The season before the bowl game or during the season next year if you come back you’re going to be a tight end you’re not going to be a quarterback you’re going to be a tight end that’s why he enters the transfer portal thrust into conversation because

Now he went into the bowl game because starting quarterback was terrible he throws five touchdowns he had thrown six passes his entire career before he threw for 400 plus yards in that game it’s a great story it creates great drama I think it creates great stories there’s

No games tonight the next bowl game is South Florida against Syracuse tomorrow it leads us to in a probably too long roundabout way Michigan Alabama for most people they felt like this was the worst possible matchup for for for Michigan I think it’s awesome I think it’s the best

Possible matchup tell me why because all the questions about Conor stallions and CH or whatever are thrown out the window when you got to run the the Gambit against Nick Sabin and arguably you know what whether it’s you know the Georges and the Kirby smarts but this is like

Doing it there’s no Nick Sabin like Merlin the old sage or whatever you’re not going to pull anything on them so to go in there right like it totally takes any of the question so you’re going to have to beat Alabama and then beat either Washington or Texas if you would

Have played Florida State and they would have got fourth the whole conversations from right now until the end of whatever was was the fact oh look at the path Michigan got they got the easiest pathway this ain’t easy this isn’t going to be easy and I’ll tell you this right

I was in New York Philly New Jersey all weekend with wrestling and stuff like that and a lot of the wrestling are from the SEC they are they think Michigan’s going to win they they like from I’ve never and I haven’t heard from and these are Alabama

Fans and two just don’t think that they have enough and for some reason the balance of Michigan to some of these fan and this is four or five different guys you know one of them thinks there’s no chance but four or five of them are like H you know what if

This is the year I think it’s Michigan’s year so that’s sort of perspective from outside which I don’t know if we even have that as Die Hard Michigan fans but to me I I said this last week I relate this to us playing Philly in the in the

Finals of7 we were The Underdogs right but we gotten owned by New Jersey in ’95 swept embarrassed so that was our lesson so going in it the roles had reversed cuz going into ’95 we were supposed to so you you believe that you can learn lessons like that that make you 100%

Especially then I look at the roster and the big thing is Miss Zach is is I mean having him would make me a lot more confident but with with the veterans that they have and they have Jim Harbaugh and they’ve been here before and last year’s TCU I don’t care that

Burns it should burn in your craw Why didn’t it make why didn’t last year make a difference from the year before then again another year of the same like you got to look at the the guys and the team because they they’ve learned right so sometimes it takes steps right steps to

To me and I’ve always said that like I think this is the best chance that Michigan has to win a championship but again if they beat Alabama and get to the finals and lose my P perspective on successful season is different than everybody else’s because they’ve made that step they’ve learned sometimes

Learning and progressing is short you know the tortoise in the hair you can’t make big steps but this is the time where everything that has happened in the past two three years ago all this different stuff the good the bad the distractions from outside especially

This year with the co you can make that all go away with this with this game teams are different though I I remember that 95 matchup with the Devils I’ll never forget this at Joe LS Arena I was standing in the back of the press conference you guys were down to nothing

You lost both games at Joe Lewis Arena the first two games and I remember listening to New Jersey writers or New York writers saying this one’s not coming back and I couldn’t help myself I turned and I said I’ll guarantee you this thing’s coming back and the Red

Wings are still going to win idiot lost obviously in four straight games what did you learn in ’95 that helped you two years later because it didn’t help you the next year specifically it’s being in the moment no moment is too big no matter what don’t listen to the hype or

Whatever you got to look left and look right and the fact is like anything in life disappointment okay right it’s like you know what what did I would ask anybody out there right that is mar that got married after having a relationship or having other relationships that

Didn’t work well you you took what you did well yeah you took what you didn’t do well and you looked inside and everybody looked inside and what could they do better we weren’t ready to win you mentioned it when we were talking about the Pistons last segment that

They’re just trying to win a gosh darn regular season game and they can’t do it without doing specific little things well to win championships you got to do these little things all the time and that’s what we did and then we weren’t going to be denied because we didn’t

Listen to any of the hype we knew what it at hand and I’ll tell you first shift right first shift of the Philly game in Philly Scotty starts the grind line and I literally almost puts Peter sabota in the fifth row right we are up to nothing

And and it was sort of like once we got the confidence like Jersey did against us these you’re trying to set a tone you’re setting a tone great segue Michigan trying to set a tone against Alabama who by the way has been there before too their coach is arguably

Outside of your former coach Scotty Bowman perhaps the greatest coach Bill bich included greatest coach in sports history you can make debates I’m just saying those are three guys that come to mind along with Phil Jackson That’s tougher for me to admit because the bull situation but when when all that comes

To into play when you know that he has been there done that when his staff has been there done that and he has many players who have been there done that at some point that’s a collision with Michigan whose coach has been there done that reached a Super Bowl played the two

NFC title games and has taken a team to the final four before but has never reached the championship game so there is something extra that Nick Sab and his staff and many of his players have already done that Michigan’s players have not done yes AB absolutely but are

Willing to do but here’s the thing the self-awareness to the Michigan players of what they have to do whether they’ve done it before is a parent right in front of them before sometimes when you get to a different level right you’re you’re not sure until you go through it

Until it after the game’s over or after the series is over and go oh my God we got to sort of do this here’s what scares me a little bit I don’t do you have to go to break here oh yeah we do okay I’m I’m going to tell you what

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You’re worried about in the national championship game National Championship semi semal you and I you and I play golf right you have a routine don’t you when you get ready to to hit the ball you have a routine pre-shot routine there you go when when you were playing at a

Championship level there are certain things you did every day right absolutely I think athletes are creatures of habit I could be is a good one other people say superstitious but one the same okay um when you lift when you work out you there are certain things you do right you have a certain

Routine I think Alabama has their routine down from the time they won the SEC title game till the time they kick off against Michigan in the Rose bow they will have had their routine the same routine that Nick Sabin takes his team through on a regular basis and it’s a proven

Routine how much time to give guys off what they’re doing in between practices how often their practices are how physical they are there are reports that Michigan has changed up their routine and it’s probably a good idea because you know the past routines really hasn’t paid off for them but that’s what

Concerns me my concern is that it’s proven for Alabama and their preparation for this type of event and Michigan is still searching for what the right remedy is for them but that’s all part of process you know that that to your point where you said last segment you

Consider Nick Sab one of the greatest coaches in all in any sport right and you look at Nick savin’s track record of where he’s been and what he’s seen so he’s been able to take from the NFL from Michigan State you know from Alabama and it’s just doing it over and over because

It works right I’m sure they use that preparation as they got ready to to beat Georgia in the SEC Championship right so they know what they’re doing but it’s also a part of Michigan which makes me feel better so what has what hasn’t worked in the past you’re going to

Change up upon but to your point they’re still looking for what that preparation is okay I I guess it comes down to Who Do You Believe In often times it’s not that I don’t believe in Jim Harbaugh or this Michigan team I mean there’s a reason they went unbeaten I I read an

Article the other day where somebody was questioning Michigan because in their first nine games I believe it was their average margin of victory was 35 points or so and the last three their average margin of victory was 12 and my thought is who cares I don’t care how much you

Win by I don’t care if you win by a goal or five I don’t care if you win by 15 points or five I don’t care if Michigan wins by a a safety or two touchdowns all I care about is whether or not they win 100% so that’s we we narrow things down

So finely so finite so infinitely to little nuances to try and prove a point or believe get support in what we believe is going to happen and and I think you’re kind of reaching in that regard I don’t think it’s any accident though that people believe Alabama can

Or will win because of the guy in charge and how he’s been able to turn that team around well you know how before a game right and you see it in graphics a lot of times and especially like in Old they put the two teams up and then they go

Quarterback position who’s got the advantage defense who’s got the advantage but if you you know right here um this is the one time where you can say that in coaching Nick Sabin has the advantage over Michigan Right which usually going into a game you’re not going to say that at least even this

Ryan Day Jim Harbaugh found a way to beat him James Franklin no one takes him serious because Penn State always Penn States right you know Kurt Ferris to whatever else he just figured out how to get the B right but when you come against Nick sabbin and the Kirby smarts

And this is also an opportunity not for just the team but for Jim Harbaugh to prove we don’t know what the future holds for Jim Harbaugh right as far as with the n foul or anything like that that’ll be sort of speculation but I guarantee you a win carries him a lot

Long a lot further along if he wants one of these jobs how come they’re not saying the same thing on the other side or maybe they are and I’m just not aware of it why is nobody suggesting that with kayin dor or Steve sarkeesian with Texas

And Washington I I don’t know it’s it’s just uh isn’t that isn’t that wild it is it’s really weird but but we’re not in those markets either may say that SHP to the fact that it’s crickets people are saying who are those guys other the coaches for the second and third rack

Team yeah and by the way Caitlin dor was the former offensive coordinator at Eastern Michigan so we should know who he is and he was really good there before he went on to Fresno State and now doing a hell of a job in Washington um the so there’s a a cool matchup there

Either way right both matchups are neat looking forward in the Lions possible playoffs how cool of a matchup would it be to have the Lions entertain Matthew Stafford and the Rams is that something you would Embrace or does that worry you because of his ability and how good that

Team is starting to play right now you know what I I’d invite it I’d invite it because I think I’d rather play the play the Rams you know maybe I’d ra you know that then Seattle sort of has your number like you’re going I you know I

Don’t I don’t know I we haven’t figured out see see what I like about Stafford is he’s a pocket passer right the fact that I’m not worried about his Mobility I’m not worried about Drew Lock’s Mobility either though what’s that Seattle I’m not worried about Drew lock

They just figured out Drew lock just figured out a way to go 98 yards and and a game one in touchdown I agree with that with Drew lock you’d probably take but but there’s an argument I’m not scared of Stafford coming in and giving away the when the fact that we’re

Hosting a home game so it shouldn’t matter who you play I mean that that’s sort of the way that Sports usually works though isn’t it Chef yeah I I I think the Rams I think first of all I think be a great storyline first and foremost okay I think Matthew Stafford

Is um for the most part I think people still appreciate what he did here what kind of pro he was here how much he loved it here and how much he gave back to the communities here it is kind of funny to me I always hear fans say I

Want somebody who wants to be here I look at him I no you don’t no you don’t you just want somebody who wins and that’s okay but don’t tell me you want somebody who just wants to be here because Matthew Stafford you know wanted to be here loved being here and people

Didn’t necessarily like him but I think it would be a great storyline for him Aaron Donald scares the hell out of me but him and Donald and the Rams coming here and playing indoor and having Jared gof the opportunity to knock that team out and Matthew Stafford vice versa for

His old team I’m a big storyline guy so am I and I maybe that comes from my TV background but I think that is a phenomenal story to follow comes from my wrestling love it’s all about the storyline and this is the Apper Pro way

And as a lions F don’t you want to it’s it’s a lot of the same ways I guess you could draw sort of comparisons about Michigan having to beat you know Alabama which is Detroit having to beat their old quarterback who’s trying you know to knock them off so especially in the Rose

Bowl and two of the more storied programs in college football history Michigan Alabama you really don’t have to say much more than that when you get those two teams it’s like order to aame too right um I’m sure Penn State is probably in that conversation but because Michigan plays them annually

It’s not as much but to see Michigan and Alabama just hear those two words you know it’s big it’s not look there are certain things that TV creates TV created the tiger Charlie Woods thing with the PNC Championship last weekend right all they did was show

Tiger and Charlie Woods and it’s a great story because Charlie Woods got a a swing I’d Die For but there were so many more fatherson combos that were better than that but that was the storyline everybody knew it that’s what they beat into our heads for three to four days

This would be one of those things Lions against Matthew Stafford that didn’t need to be beaten into our head that it would be constantly brought up and same thing with Michigan Alabama Michigan Alabama you don’t have to beat that into our heads anybody who follows college football anybody who follows

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Shoing done day before have not even begun wow that a boy I like that just not very good but you know hey speaking of shopping I don’t know if you guys saw this come across but we talked at the beginning of the show about the Philadelphia Eagles and how they’re

Realing a little bit uh mening you know losing three straight and stuff like that how about this did you see that they’re even trying harder to help us get the number two seed Philadelphia in what way Matt Patricia do we all know that name unfortunately unfortunately

Now Spenny you said he helping out is he not named an assistant coach or something to the he already was what’s that he already was he he became their defensive play caller in this game he’s not their DC no but he’s their defensive play caller okay so please explain that to me

Why would you have a guy not your DC calling the place well according to their head coach he made the choice to change that responsibility for game day duties because they had struggled mightily and what did we see I’m I’m gonna be honest with you I

And I don’t let me get this straight I do not like Matt Patricia didn’t like him here didn’t enjoy dealing with him however I I’m not I don’t think he should shoulder the blame for that loss against Seattle Seattle rushed for 100 yards man I mean that Drew lock through

For 200 yards I mean they turned it over twice Jaylen Herz had two bad picks okay they gave up a couple of key sacks I thought the last Drive was I mean did you see those catches by DK metf yeah two incredible catches and both times

They were covered well the pass to lock it for the for the game-winning score was an incredible throw sometimes players got to make plays too I’m not trying to stick up for Matt Patricia here because he’s the last guy I would stick up for but I don’t

Know if he should shoulder the blame I don’t think they played that poorly defensively I thought they were awful offensively but do you like okay so let me change my question so are you more excited would you be more excited to play against Philadelphia with Matt Patricia being the defensive play caller

Do you think that that’s a benefit or do you think that no he’s in that position because he sort of deserves to be or is there extra motivation I don’t think he necessarily deserves to be that’s you know that’s up to to Nick sani’s decision I would welcome the chance to

Play Philadelphia at Ford Field I can’t say that I’d want to go to Lincoln Financial but I would welcome the the the Eagles playing at for field I think Detroit would win that game I like it what about you guys spatty yeah what did you I’d rather see

Philly than San FR that’s for sure oh there you go would you rather see Philly or Dallas still I still Dallas probably I’d rather see Philly Micah Parson scares the hell out of me I you know I I think Dallas is a better football team

But well we’re going we going to see I just wonder if that like if you have to play Philly you know and obviously the injuries are struggling with obviously Lane Johnson they almost lost him last game so they’re B they’re battling right now yeah um but again I hope we have

This discussion I really do I mean hope we have that opportunity and as an athlete against a former coach or whatever like that yes there is some incentive especially you know that’ll that’ll be a little bit more fuel fire I think would people here would people rather entertain that than Matt

Stafford no okay because I think more people pay attention to I think the opposing quarterbacks a hell of a lot more important than the defensive signal caller fair enough that’s just my opinion I could be wrong on that but I think more people are watching Matt

Stafford has more of an impact on the game than the defensive signal caller CU you can call the the signals all you want defensively those guys still got to go out there and make plays jimm and Joe’s huh it’s about the jimmies and Joe Jim and Joe’s absolutely absolutely

Abolutely well that’ll probably do it hey Spenny yep good thank you Chef thanks for sting I’m sure we’ll see you around here uh a lot more appreciate uh everything you have to add and you know you’ve been around uh Detroit sports a long time and the people in the chat you know

Appreciate appreciate that sharing your expertise with us a good discuss Mikey what time is that Wings game tonight it’s mountain time so 8:00 probably yeah I think it’s actually I want to say it was 7:30 but oh okay Winnipeg’s a uh I think is a fun team to watch man they

Got good speed and they’re one of the’re they’re one of the other teams that I enjoy watching I like I mean I hate hating Colorado of course when you guys played him but I love watching Nathan McKinnon I love him and I love watching Conor McDavid I’m telling you man Conor

McDavid is the greatest skater I’ve ever seen in my life great talent in the NHL whe they going to watch tonight we’ll be back tomorrow NE will be back we’ll talk to you for Spen moo rxs BMG Matt Shepard I’m dmac Big D energy we out Deuces

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  1. Love LaPorta… But it's pretty easy to be that guy, when he's targeted 10 times a game…
    And it doesn't hurt to have "JAMO" out there playing the Decoy all game long… But hey, Goff's long ball stinks & he can't SCRAMBLE EGGS… Soooo, as long as we're winning, Right?

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