What do Chicago White Sox fans want from Chris Getz this Off-Season? | CHGO White Sox Podcast

It is that time of year! Time to bust out a pad of paper and a pen, to begin writing to the North Pole. What are Chicago White Sox fans wishing for this holiday season? Join the CHGO White Sox crew, Vinnie Duber, Herb Lawrence, and Sean Anderson as they discuss!

0:00 – Intro/Show setup
2:02 – White Sox offseason shopping list
10:25 – Starting pitcher market for White Sox
31:11 – 2nd base free agents that would fit with the Sox
42:10 – Free agent Right Fielder for Sox
51:19 – Which team would be the best to trade with Sox

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[Applause] [Applause] He Heyo welcome into the chgo white socks podcast coming to you live from Studio A of our chgo offices here in the West Loop of Chicago I’m your host Sean Anderson alongside me is Vinnie duber our chg White Sox beat riter you can follow him at Vinnie duuber and read his

Latest piece up at all chgo uh and I guess all ch.com you know it could be a.co it could be AET or edu.gov or or org yeah it’s also every country has their own after their own one too CCA MX Au Au EU right mhm yeah I would imagine

Amazing I uh I think it’s IR for Ireland which her really didn’t want to admit existed today that’s not true it’s over there apparently there are three people in IR sail across the sea and you’ll find it you’ll run right into it I’ll fly instead but yes Herb’s not on RTE

Doir uh read about Shane mcgaw’s Funeral and them singing in the streets mourning uh this great songwriter three people know who that today is the day I’ve realize whoever person you just named is the man in the middle is herence you can follow him at aaral 23 I know Paul

Houston though I don’t know who that is yeah you do oh yeah I do all right my bad uh SPO for you guys don’t know yeah uh if you said Adam Clayton maybe I would have done a little bit but because that’s his real name uh that’s her you

Can follow him at echar 23 is our chg White Sox Community leader playing off of Vinnie’s latest article uh what Chris gets and Company are still looking for this off season uh a little white socks Christmas list uh why don’t you take us through what’s on that wish list and

Herb and I are going to kind of play off of that and see you know the ways that this wish list could be granted cuz you know sometimes you wish for a PS4 and it’s an Xbox One or whatever I guess PS5 and it’s an Xbox one right you know you

You wish for Nikes and it’s a pair of Adidas shoes that’s not that bad Xbox one down Tri from a PS5 I know but it’s not what you wished for right so it’s a little bit different it’s you know same effect we are the white socks you don’t

Want to be a whiny bratty kid because hey all you get is Andrew Ben attendi and Mike clevinger and you like it last year and hey we’ve gotten Eric fety and Max stassy oh my Nick Nikki Lopez forgot about Soka oh my God there’s not enough room under that tree Jared Shuster he’s

Having back problems stocking stuff for a Jared trer all right uh anyways Vinnie uh why don’t you take take us through the white socks Christmas list their their wish list for 2023 I don’t know what year we’re in yeah for a little bit longer it’s 2023

But yeah the listen the white socks as you just kind of Illustrated there with all the names that we just mentioned have been more active than most uh across Major League Baseball it’s been obviously kind of a quiet offseason a pretty slow moving offseason as we come

In here every day and basically say well everyone’s still waiting to see where Otani goes everyone’s still waiting to see where Yamamoto goes and uh it’s not really moving very quickly but the white socks have added a lot that being said we all know how much they needed to add

When the offseason began and so they are far from over um I I I think that if you look around at their roster there’s still five six things that they are probably looking for uh that they’re asking Santa for here this week uh don’t know if it’ll come by uh by Christmas

Because business usually slows around the holidays though we all remember where we were the night that that news broke that Edwin and Carion was coming to the white sock on Christmas night but um listen they need a lot of things they need some more starting pitching I think

First and more first and foremost obviously you mentioned Eric fet’s name and Michael soka’s name and Jared Schuster’s name but think of all the question marks that are that go along with just those three guys not to mention is Dylan CE goingon to be here is Michael copc gonna figure things out

T Tuki tousant Jesse Shulton are they good enough to be the depth that this team needs when’s David Martin going to be healthy when’s Nick Nini going to be ready for the major leagues uh they could use some more and whether that is going to be anybody of any sort of uh

Level to generate excitement throughout this fan base who knows but the more the marrier uh at this time of year I I that would be my thought and I think it’s Chris get’s thought too because even after signing Eric fety he said starting pitching remains a priority for them uh

I think you just got to take that kind of throw everything at the wall and see what sticks approach uh because it could really drastically go one way or the other for any number of these guys that are currently on this roster I think I mentioned it yesterday if you project

Right now the White Sox rotation to be Dylan CE because he’s still here Michael copc Eric fetty Michael Soka and Jared Schuster three of those Five Guys the bottom three that I mentioned made started a grand total of 17 major league baseball games last year this this this

Year 17 between the three of them it’s not a lot a lot of hope uh happens around Christmas you know I’m hoping that that’s going to work out hey and listen I don’t know and and feel free to call me uh you know uh negative on this

Front it’s very possible that all those guys have the upside that the white socks see in them and you know and and that sort of thing but I think starting pitching is probably the first area where they are definitely going to need to uh take take a bigger look do you

Want me to keep going well I don’t know how you have this formatted yeah I guess I guess not uh I guess you know you want to weigh in on starting pitching and then go back to me or do you want me to just rattle all these

Off how much time you got we have about an hour okay let me let me take my time and figure this out I don’t know I think the one thing that did stick out is just like it’s obviously dependent on what they’re going to do with that bobblehead

Over there uh maybe not the guy of the image uh because they’re gon to bust down the door and repossess the bobblehead that’s going to change everything a it’s one of my favorites a real life mustache uh but I I don’t know it does feel like

Nini is more in in case of break in case of emergency right like we waited too long on ceas and then right before this season the perfect deal uh finally came to us uh and instead of going out and picking what’s left to the the starting pitching Market we’ll give Nick Nini a

Shot and say he won it in spring training right um I think that it makes sense for them to give Nini until at least June in Charlotte to see you know a little bit higher level of competition um but if they were going to add a starting pitcher right now I

Think you probably add someone with flip ability because as you brought up you have Davis Martin you have Nick Nini come July come August you probably want to see what these guys that have been pitching in the minor leagues has especially going into 2025 so I if

You’re out um so I think like w Wala I thought was a guy that would be interesting but he signs for multi years does feel like if they’re going to add a starting pitcher or starting pitchers it will probably be on a one-year deal cuz it does seem like they’re just trying to

Get to next year in a way and the pitchers that they would bring in would be only of the one-year quality too like prove it you can do it again they’re not at the multi-year pitcher Market they’re not well they already signed one yeah Fetti but they’re not like anywhere in

The luuk gitos releas is not you know rumored about and the people who are left Marcus strowman people who would be looking for a multi-year deal type of thing so yeah I would see them being a hey can you prove it if you’re good for us the the the the Mike Clevenger type

Deal where you 8 million 4 million to go away or you get a mutual option something like that you know two years where it’s like okay if you prove it that first year we’ll see if we want you the next year or if you don’t want to

You want to hit the open market again go ahead and do your thing that type of player I think they’ll be bringing in and that’s where I’m going to be going on my starting pitcher W wish list cuz I would want better pitchers of course but

I know the white socks are not of that market so I’m going to be going to a place where I think it makes sense for them makes sense for the pitcher and also fits him within their parameters well that sort of that sort of deal certainly would make sense for the white

Sock right they they could do something like that I think I’m looking at the trend of the the kinds of moves that they’ve made so far this season and I’m or this offseason rather and I’m seeing very lowc cost very shortterm you say flip ability it might not even be like

Herb is the thing the kind of contract that herb outlined is like the guy that you sign hoping to flip him kind of thing to me I’m thinking Johnny quo oh I was thinking Wade Miley no I mean like I’m thinking the kind of deal that the

White Sox would sign would be the Johnny quo deal that the white sock signed like ago veteran veteran player minor league deal we’ll see if he can make the team you can’t whatever no it’s no no uh great shakes for us and if you can oh boy we’re going to turn you into

Something in July kind of thing like it it really it when when I say throw everything at the wall and see what sticks I’m I’m using the term that you’ve used a lot warm body right and it’s and it’s very much like and but the thing with that is like you don’t have

To budget for that kind of move that’s a kind of move where you can go out and say hey there’s three guys sitting over there it’s March come on down come compete in spring training and we’ll keep you around in case we need you or or if if you show that you’re better

Than some of the guys that we have to me that kind of move those kind of moves plural would seem to really make sense for this White Sox team that has a struggled so much with depth and B like you said maybe just kind of for lack of

A better term killing time until 2025 not that that’s what they’ve said they’re doing but it kind of looks like that might be the case so Vinnie are you saying and Sarah if you can Flash the wish list that I have are you saying that my wish list of Wade Miley is too

Uh greedy no no Wade Miley who uh at perf fangraph’s uh crowd Sur would be getting around a year and 8 million I don’t think it’s too greedy I think that there are different ways to look at at addressing that need and I think the White Sox want more starting pitching

And but we always hear from GM saying we always want everyone always wants more starting pitching so just go gobble up up a bunch of starting pitching and it I mean it doesn’t have to be good right you can see you can find out you can

Find out in February and March if it’s any good and if it’s not guess what then the guy becomes a minor league free agent like it’s not a it’s not a big deal um of course you’re not seeing those kind of moves at Christmas time you’re seeing those kind of moves in the

First two weeks of February yeah and what I’m thinking too is the white sock while you said the five players you said probably have one spot open because Dylan C is on his team’s pitching same thing with Michael copc he’s going to be a starter and for the more like more

Than likely fetty and uh Soka will be in the starting rotation so then you have all the people the shoers the Tuki Tans of the Shuster made more starts uh last year than Soka did big big league level but like I think they think more of Soka

Than they think of Schuster like as a starting pitcher he’s got he’s got a he’s got more of a track record yeah yeah and so I would be thinking of a person that needs to just fit into that whole style and since Schuster is the left-hander of that group I would say

You would need a another left-hander so Wade Miley would make fit in and Sarah you can put up my thing I was going more James Paxton and I know people are like oh he’s old last year June and June he was the AL pitcher of the month wow with

A sub2 AR and was looking to get traded because he was on the Boston Red Sox they had nothing really to do and then he didn’t get traded and pretty much sucked after the trade deadline and then pretty much went on the I but I think that’ll be a perfect pitcher for the

White Sox veteran Lefty used to pitch in the cold he’s a Canadian he’s would be a perfect fit for the white socks I think in that rotation and he still has some juice to him just came off of Tommy John from 2022 and so his arm is kind of

Fresh I think it would be a good move for the white sock and it would fit into their parameters that would probably be like a one-year 99 million $10 million deal by roster resource so I think that type of deal would be the wh so perfect

Deal because of the fills out the roster puts Shuster probably into the minor leagues or to a swing spot where they have the depth and then they don’t have to go too far with um paying a top level guy and they could still get uh trade and flip ability from James Paxton I’m

Just playing devil’s advocate here this is not my opinion but I’ll play devil’s advocate for a team that we’ve seen spend so little money so far this off season uh multi-year deal at which they are paying that player less than $8 million per year in what good does it do

You to spend $10 million on James Paxton that’s a good point but I think it’s it’s a point of them being resourceful in the middle of the market where yes they haven’t gone to the top or even the middle of the market and they’ve gone

With fetty for the 15 for two it’s just a solid pitcher they just think he’s uh uh like it’s a untapped resource where he did Pitch well in the AL Central and he pitched well versus AL Central teams specifically except for the Cleveland Guardians I think he’s got a 3-2 ER or

Below versus the other three teams that are in the AL Central so it makes sense for the white sock to get that person because they face him 12 times each in the league so I think if they were thinking about okay this guy has a track

Record he’s a lefty he’s good he’s a veteran and he’s not that expensive I think that’s why it fits into it yes it’s a lot more money than they would want to spend but it’s also a I think it’s a untapped resource where people are trying to look over James Paxton

Because he’s old he missed whole 2022 didn’t pitch a lot in 2023 and when he did it wasn’t that great except for that month of June where he faced three AL Central teams and did pretty well vers the team he didn’t pitch well versus weirdly enough the white socks well herb

I I love you I think part of the reason why he had success in June was because he’s pitching against dog [ __ ] AL Central teams and he’ll be pitching versus do [ __ ] AL Central teams here respectfully um and I get that but again Big Maple you know really really

Great in 2019 that eagle landed on him that one time yeah that was cool y I just I don’t know how much is left in that that 35y old tank I ale picture of the month in June of this year yeah but when you turn 35 like the your ability

To recover just falls off the table AG aging kind of happens yeah you’re not a professional athlete um I never heard of that huh oh I was saying I’ve never heard of that I don’t know no I didn’t know that you got a long ways to go

Sarah don’t worry about it okay I was confused but like you know 10 years past that he’s had a lot of buildup of of stuff uh you talked about Tommy John I mean he didn’t pitch in 2020 really he didn’t pitch in 2021 uh and then this

Year in those last 19 Innings he gave up what uh he had a 14 ra um I just want to make sure that’s correct yeah that’s 16 ear runs and nine in two3 Innings he had KN inflamation yeah but here’s the thing that’s a that’s a problem because what’s

One thing that we keep hearing from Chris gets it’s not necessarily the White Soxs need starting pitchers it’s that they need starting pitching Innings and I think so if you can if you do want to pick a trait or an attribute to kind of focus in on durability uh guys that

Can th guys that can throw a lot I mean you’re you’re look at the state of the White Sox bullpen right now there’s nobody in it I was think I was looking at it like who the [ __ ] in it and if you’ve got that plus all the question

Marks we talked about earlier you need some that you can throw out there and hey who cares if they give up five runs as long as they throw if they can get six get you six Innings that’s the big that’s the big number that I think that

The White Sox would be looking for this year with what they are currently trying to do that it looks like they are trying to do um I think if you can pick out somebody who is durable who can throw a lot of innings but again it’s just going

To have to come down to luck nobody thought that Johnny quo was going to throw them all those Innings you know two years ago I I I think that’s the kind of signing and that’s the kind of outcome that I mean obviously he was really good

But I just mean a guy that can take the ball every 5 days that’s the kind of outcome that the white socks are looking for okay how about how about these names all right and then and how how many how many guys starting pitchers do you want

To you give minor Le invits too if it’s me yeah as many as you can I know but like for for for the bit what like five for the bit Yeah four or five okay all right all right five is probably shooting pretty high but let’s go with

Let’s go with four or five well look can I volunteer jul Tron so I I actually think Julio tayron might be a little bit too expensive for our taste with his. three War uh but I I think that maybe if he doesn’t really have the market you

Know we could throw Julio Tyron in but uh you know who’s thrown a lot of innings might not have been Major League innings in the past couple years past two in it’s already not great but go ahead yeah was KY no worth point. one War I don’t see that happen I’m already

Out okay uh Brad Keller Royals connection he’s only 28 I could see that absolutely he’s a royal too I could see that happening cookie Carrasco he’s 37 he’s thrown a ton but he hasn’t been good is that problem I think he’s getting a major league contract though

You think so he’s 37 yeah he’s getting a major league contract all right um what about Jose urho why not veryy bring him back yeah well I mean a minor league deal and you brought up Johnny quo Johnny quo isn’t getting a major league deal but hey you could bring him back

Like I think he’s a lot better than Cory clubber at this point or maybe yeah maybe he has the the the potential to be a little bit more how about how about quo urania Carrasco Keller and you you you said no to kyel so do you want me

Give I don’t see that happening yes neither okay kubot would rather retire than take a minor league deal do we throw do we throw Thor in there little Noah syner guard it does it doesn’t hurt I but I think his velocity and stuff will get him a

Major league deal which it always has he’s not that old was he 30 if that uh No that’s Carlos Carrasco uh yeah 31 31 yeah so he he’ll get something yeah but his his velocity I think’s fallen off I mean that’s really the one thing I think that he’s tried to focus on is like maybe dipping his velocities because he’s finally gotten healthy uh in 2022

And 2023 uh throwing 88 and 2/3 and then 134 and 2/3 not great uh but yeah his fast ball velocity 92.2 yeah so not great Bob um all right let’s take a break Zack grank yeah I I think grank but like he was he was okay someone give him a major

League contract right I think so like he’s a future Hall of Famer he sits with last year uh grinkie was better than the same as Wade Miley and Shawn man you love yeah um I understand grank is 40 That’s Brian bannister’s guy maybe maybe they’re able to talk Jee Watson’s here

Too he’s a royal guy U maybe maybe you know they’re able to talk to Zach and be like hey you’ve made enough money in your damn life let’s just uh 2 mil you’re kind of weird too you’re a weirdo you you’ll fix a clubhouse you you’ve

Already kicked one Cuban off the bus one time if another one gets out of hand you got us you remember when he kicked Yas pig off the bus here in Chicago nope yeah did he deserve it I mean apparently AIO Pig was not a great person

Apparently as a clubhouse guy okay uh I think uh yeah we got a 21 strikeouts grank needs to get to 3,000 so hey you know come take three mil and you know get your get your 21 strikeouts and ride off in the sunset giving us 100 Innings

That is not that does not sound outlandish to me at all okay great woo what else is it going to do so just sub Dallas kyel or Noah card for Zack Zack grank I’m in and Rich Hill too uh I think Luke brought up these guys are

Getting these are these guys are getting Major League contracts you think Rich Hill is getting a major league contract he always does 43-year-old Rich Hill threw 146 Innings last year that’s really good yeah it is with his 541 ra hey man that’s not as good 81 ra plus

Yikes hey his fifth was 487 though that’s kind of crazy Innings he’s got to they need to them Innings damn I mean hey I could talk I could talk myself into Rich Hill in with with like Carrie Wood and Mark Prior I think he pitched

With Babe Ruth I think he was you know he was never a Yankee was he he was a Yankee yeah he’s pitched with most people um I mean what teams have any P pitch for white socks the white socks there we go come on rich full circle

Starting in your crew in Chicago yeah so 2005 was his first year so uh he was on the same team as uh uh Todd Walker Todd hollandsworth Cory Patterson Jeremy bernitz Nar Garcia para uh your guy uh the riot was on that team uh White Sox

Legend uh Geo stto had in it bat uh Greg Maddox uh there you go will Omen too Rich Hill Rich Hill pitched with Greg Maddox Greg Maddox we should we should do that how how how little of a timeline can we create in baseball history like Rich

Hill is probably going to take us to 2005 Greg Maddox can take us to like 1988 yeah right like we got to be able to like get uh you know a massive how how short can we go from today to Bab Ruth Phil ncro is always helpful for

That because he pitched for like 30 years I mean gay would Perry yeah we just need to get someone who is a teammates with mini manoso how about that richill started the punch AJ game did he really so says Connor that’s crazy I trust I I trust Conor he didn’t

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Sorry I you got more starting pitching to go to no hold on hold on hold on uh I do have one more starting pitching thought uh but yeah so you can go Rich Hill to Greg Maddox in the 1986 Cubs and then you can go Ron Ron played on the

1971 Dodgers but I’m kind of at penguin a little Tipping Point here because there was also the spy uh Chris spear uh who also was on the 1986 Cubs uh but he was on the 1971 Giants so we can either go to the 19 71 Dodgers or the 1971

Giants so right now we are uh three players and we’ve gone from modern day to 1971 but we can just go to League G Min minoso and get there to get just back to the 80s played with mini minoso uh all right uh I got one more starting pitching thought like obviously the

Budget is a thing and I think we are pretty clear that with your wish of uh James Paxton and my wish of Wade Miley that wasn’t even granted by of any um nothing but coal for you guys that uh you know even even thinking that a guy

Might be making 8 million a year is a little bit too rich for our family um how about though like just the idea I don’t even know why but like show to IM was saying this fine in my head before the show uh sh sha imanaga uh he

Is around the same age as uh kodai senga we saw him get 575 last year um the predictions of fangraph said that imanaga would be getting around like 468 uh the difference between him and SGA is SGA was a little bit more uh walk risk adverse like giving up a t you know

More of a Dylan CE Michael copc Guy where imanaga is more of a Michael copc guy and he gives up a ton of homers uh maybe Lance Lynn because the Michael Co it was more A bash it was a joke on how bad Michael copak is I I got it both the

Walker and The Home Run guy I got you yeah uh but iaga like that’s a guy that’s 30 and if he comes out and has a crazy start to his career um I mean that’s a guy that you could probably sell in a or not sell but trade if the

Trade dead line I’m just thinking like why don’t the White Sox take risks like that at all where hey this guy might just be undervalued we saw this with fetty why not take a shot and try to flip this player I guess it’s just because we have no desire to spend over

A certain amount oh well I think well sure I think that the way I’m looking at it is do the white socks know even at this point when they know that they’re going to be contending again you know what I mean like we’ve talked about so

Much how like the idea of them wanting to get back to where to the top of the division by 2025 hinges maybe on what they’re able to accomplish this offseason or certainly next offseason um if they are un unsure that they can accomplish enough to get to that point

Is that investment in in a contract for that guy because listen a long-term contract would make sense for the white sock they plan to be good over the long term right you know whether or not that’ll happen we’ll find out but if they think oh boy this could be one two

Three years where we don’t know if we’re going to be contending what are they spending that money on that type of contract even if that player is very good what are you spending that money on you know what I mean like if he’s a guy because the idea would be he’s someone

Who can help you win the division he’s someone who can help you win in the playoffs if they’re not planning on or they don’t know whether or not they’re going to be competing for the division during the let’s say half or majority of that contract then all of a sudden it’s

Like well what are you paying for nothing um all right let’s move on uh I don’t think they’ll be getting Shoto no okay all right uh let’s move to my bush list I mean have they ever gotten a starting pitcher who is from an Asian country specific like that’s his

Origin like that’s they’ve gotten sh Tatu as a a a reliever but I don’t think they’ve ever you know gone out and gotten a starter because usually back in the day used to have the big posting fee and that was a no-o with Jerry and now they’re still really expensive to bring

Over here so I don’t think that’s in Jerry’s perview where he’s spending a bunch of money on unknowns that’s what he would call it probably yeah I mean just even the idea of a free agent I mean we saw Dallas kyel um but I guess the probably the selling point of that

Was oh this is a guy well CH but more of like a lefty that doesn’t throw hard so he won’t be breaking down like a a reliable veteran like I think that was the easy pitch with let’s go spend this on a free agent pitcher um outside of I

Mean acquiring Lance in a in a trade um all right let’s go to my wish list uh because you didn’t have a second baseman right I don’t think I I mean I just downshifted to Nikki Lopez you’re fine with Nikki Lopez I know that the second base Market doesn’t look great as you

See right there on your list well here’s the thing I’ve obviously thrown out Whit marfield a ton I don’t want with with marfield I don’t I don’t think that he would be a good addition I think that would be a waste of money on a guy who’s

Kind of washed um Alvis Andress though is he washed yes because I think the thing is is like he is better than Whit marfield at this point and I think that Whit marfield will probably make more money than Elvis Anders so true I mean I think he’s more reliable than Nikki

Lopez and maybe you put Lopez in more of a floater spot where he could play Third short second like he doesn’t have to be your starting second baseman and that way he can just give you defensive versatility which he’s really good at Elvis can give you just an average bat I

Mean he was fine last year I mean I eventually I didn’t I didn’t I know the whole season counts but like he started off really Str struggling and then eventually he became a decent guy he was he was horrible in the first half last year yeah offensively well you know I

Mean he he closed out strong so he showed that you know this is the anti- James Paxton you know James Paxton won a Al pitcher in the the month of June Alvis Andrew I think was player of the month in September like Al player of the

Month of all of September right was he I don’t think so I’m pretty sure he was I’m pretty sure he was a player of the all right the white socks yeah I don’t I don’t I mean again it’s it does family well the thing is about second

Base there is there’s at least to fangraph’s top 50 free agents there are two middle infielders Amed Rosario and Tim Anderson that are even currently top 50 uh in in the free agent Market but again here’s the thing and and this is not a knock on you guys this is what

Everybody does every offseason you know myself included it’s so easy to say well they have to go get one of those free agents because that’s a name that I can see that needs a job that they can sign tomorrow the free the the trade market is just as realistic if not more

Realistic for this White Sox team I’m not saying go through every second basement in baseball that’ll take you longer than just me getting to the end of the sentence but uh you know think about you can’t just you know it’s hard to say herb for example oh well there’s

No free agent starting second basement out there that’s that much better than Nikki Lopez so I guess they’re stuck with them like they they have they’re the ones who have yet to commit to Lopez being their everyday starter yet right so second baseman looks very possible as

Something that they could add I don’t know if it’s going to be a certainty but they’ve talked about exploring that kind of those Avenues if they can make a trade for that sends Dylan out of town or that sends monata alloy somewhere to another team maybe a second baseman

Comes back and I’m not saying he’s going to you know be the the next uh you know Joe Morgan or anything but it might be somebody who takes that spot on the depth chart over Nikki Lopez be I’d be thrilled to see real Joe Morgan play

Second base for this team in 2024 I mean he’s not alive but yes he’s not no he’s currently not with us oh [ __ ] I thought I didn’t know Joe Morgan died r Joe morg recently like either last year this year I did not know that yeah damn um I I do

See Victor Von Doom BR up Tony Kemp oh yeah he died in 2020 all right pe20 Joe Morgan my um Tony Kemp though uh if he was a better Defender I’d be cool with it he he walks a decent amount doesn’t strike out a ton uh doesn’t really whiff um is

Is kind of just a solid you know will give you a tough at bat um but he’s not that great of a Defender you play left and second can’t play right and second I think that’s the one thing with marfield marfield is comfortable in W where Tony

Kemp isn’t uh that so that’s that’s why I think I mean over Elvis Andrew and you’re not even picking of a second baseman I think that’s why wh marfield is at least the the more versatile more of a tolerable stomachal uh pickup just because he’s at least

Closer to leag he might be what8 n 10 million yeah I know he might be really expensive for this team so I would love anybody that can play a competent second base where they’re worth the price that they’re paying them so bring in that person I think Nikki Lopez if you fill

Out other spots with big that’s why I was last year pounding the table for an actual right fielder because if you get an actual right field you can live with the Elvis Andres of the world being second baseman and your catcher being subar because then you have your offense

Being made up by the right fielder which the White Sox haven’t had in ages and so the problem with the problem with last year was that the defense in second base and catcher was not very good too yeah bad too so just yeah so you can fix a

Lot of things with a offensive right fielder that is you know maybe zero defensive run saved or just a a smidge below that if he’s bringing power to the table but and then you can live with the Nicki Lopez of the world because I like the versatility of him hitting from the

Left side even though it doesn’t hit well from the left side I just need the the the roster to be a little bit different than all those right-handers in the lineup and I think only yoan on left-handed right now in the starting lineup because they lost I mean unless

You’re putting gav and in tend so he’s in the starting lineup oh yeah so we got two so my guy so we got two left-handers who don’t hit let’s add another one right well her a third if you had Gavin herb you do bring up one thing that I

Think uh certainly colors the discussion when it comes to maybe a second baseman and by the way definitely a right fielder they need a right fielder Oscar colas is going to start at least start the season in the majors if not be there all year Gavin sheets is uh a guy who is

A first baseman playing The Outfield they don’t want to do that anymore they want defensive upgrades at the bare minimum you’ve seen it with D young you’ve seen it with Lopez you’ve seen it with Max stassy they want defensive upgrades they want that in right field too and so maybe the pattern continues

And it’s another defense first guy where the bat is just me but whether it’s second base or right field don’t go looking for them to sign somebody who’s not a big defensive upgrade I think that is the main thing that Chris has been talking about all offseason long he

Talked about it at the winter meetings in regard to right field uh you know so when you’re saying you wouldn’t mind a right fielder who can hit as long as second and catcher uh you know the defense is good I don’t know if the White Sox agree I think the White Sox

Want somebody who can play defense hitting certainly a bonus certainly ideal right um but I think defense is going to continue to be the focus of any position player they bring in well and they want somebody who can run too somebody brought up earlier the perfect person would be Travis Janowski for the

White Sox even though he’s more of a left-hander he can run he hit a little bit last year in Texas Travis Kowski would fit into what Vinnie’s saying he can catch the ball with the greatest of EAS he can steal the bases and he’s a plus Outfield I believe I don’t know I

Think I don’t know if he has a plus right field arm now he’s a plus out phly though uh his arm strength’s a little bit above League average uh the arm value is bad but also I don’t know what that stat means um negative3 arm value

But he’s he’s got his arm strength is about it’s depreciating over time like a car he could throw it very well but he can’t hit anything um he could throw it over the mountains but he’s just not sure which mountains um yeah I don’t know about Jen Kowski I get the the

Left-handed side but uh can we see my my wish list here I I got a right fielder I I Michael a Taylor a hey uh hey uh the font a he uh played for the Royals and twins already um knows the division knows the division and I like

Guys that can Kelly Johnson it right I want this to be a one-year deal and then he goes to the Tigers right and then I want a one-year deal and then he goes what’s the other team guardians Guardians then he goes to the Guardians and then he can retire happy completing

The AL Central he has completed a quest and I think you get a badge from uh the commissioner for doing that um he has completed the AL Central uh but he is a guy that had nine Fielding runs 93 percentile in Major League Baseball uh for fielding uh is 77 percentile in base

Running value he was a positive base runner which I know the white soxer would be thrilled about they want guys who can play good clean baseball and his batting run value Nega -10 so there you go Michael a Taylor you are a white sock to me my my thought on him would be

And I think I said this to you off air at some point in the last few days uh wouldn’t a team want to give him money to play center field for them and so I mean he’s he’s so good at it that that there are got to be teams out there that

Would be giving him again in line with what his offens of production is but quote unquote center fielder money to play center field where the White Sox would want to give him less to play right field you’d imagine maybe but um my just my thought is there’s got to be

A team out there that sees the defense same with what Jared is suggesting with Kevin km sees the defense over the years as being an elite center fielder and saying well just have him play center field somewhere starting in center field for any number of other major league

Teams the White Sox already have an elite defensive center fielder maybe that fills that one hole I’m not sure what teams are looking for a center fielder though I mean it’d be very hard pressed to find one I’m sure there’s a team that has a underwhelming center

Fielder right now or a person that is in the miners not ready to go right now and Michael aada would fit in that perfectly the reason why I fit with the twins because Brian buckton they want to take off but now I think they’re cool with uh you know other people people playing

Center field other than Byron buckon so there’ll be some teams out there looking to get him on their team yeah I would think Minnesota would act quickly if they if they know they have a limited budget and they know they have to fill that spot um You’ think that maybe

They’d just be interested in keeping him uh I don’t know about Toronto if they’re going to roll with varo in center field that takes away his his value in left field so I mean maybe they’re probably going to be in on Kier Meer um they just haven’t acted because of Yamamoto Otani

Uh but yeah I mean I I I don’t know I don’t know if Michael a Taylor is getting a lot of calls but I don’t know it doesn’t seem like anyone’s taking a lot of calls in in free agency this year um and then real quick Connor said Sean

Is shortman we must support Andrew Ben attendi uh we are critics and as Teddy Roosevelt said he is the man in the arena and a 571 at that so wow I think you’ve got to shut up at least for like the next five minutes about Ben and

Tenny just because this is a plea that is quoting Teddy Roosevelt so I think you just got to tip your cap to that I you brought up Andrew Ben attendi you forgot him all I was just doing was reminding you of him thank you apprciate yeah hey and anything Sports gaming says

Sock sign Matt Chapman again the issue is Vinnie won’t allow it so thanks Vinnie um do you have an outfielder I mean my outfielder comes from a platoon situation I know I have Robbie Grossman up there and the reason why I do have it last year it splits as against

Left-handed hitters was let me find it 309 416 and 536 so go really strong he’s a terrible outfielder and especially in right field but he played for the Texas Rangers last year and you can go and do a platoon with your guy who’s 35 years

Old also Adam Duval let’s go so you know yes Robbie Gman would be you know probably hitting right-handed there and you would lose a little bit so whatever one you don’t get and I know I had DH is a very high wish list in JD Martinez but

You can have one of them in the right field and the other one played de Nate hitter cuz my other thing is that I’m trading ELO jenez I try to trade him every damn year I was going to say every damn month it seems listen to me ELO

Jenez has value the Toronto Blue Jays who we just talked about need a designated hitter cuz they Brandon Bell I think is on the free agent list and he did well for them last year he was probably one of their best everyday hitters which says a lot about the Tonto

Blue Jays but aloy Jimenez up there in blue jay land you bring us one of the catchers if it’s Danny Johnson baby but if it’s Alejandra Kirk who had a bad subpar offensive year but his defense was I think second best in defensive run saved you could have a solved catcher

Position for the next three years at minimum because he’s still arbitration eligible for his first year I think it’ll be the perfect situation for both teams involved you give Danny Janson a an all or most of the catching opportunities up there and then you give

Um aloy a chance to go up there Toronto to be around some people who are more like-minded and a dome that’s got you know weather control he didn’t have to be the uh right fielder he wouldn’t want to be the right fielder because of the

Turf up there so he’ll be good to go I think it’s a nice even swap I think Toronto can stomach the three 13 million because they were willing to pay Seven to 700 million for showy atani well and so they have the money I know it’s different he’s player in baseball I but

They wouldn’t like oh 13 million for a designated here I’m I’m scared they’re a bigger Market team and then they East so they need another bopper and if you ask KBW they need more offense and yes Eloy hasn’t been an offensive guy this past year but last year as we know in 2022

Awesome so that would be my solution I don’t know who says no maybe Toronto because they love Alejandro Kirk and he’s a great catcher but he struggled so mightily hitting last year uh I don’t know how we even got to the trade partner SE section I was supposed to

Take a break before that you flashed the graphic and Herb just was like I’m I’m reading this whole graphic that’s on me and her killed it and I I think if the white socks do that I think you know the one thing that Shea Fidel brings up is

We got catchers already coming up so uh you know if if you do feel like that might block Edgar Carol or the the mean Max stassy you want to that’s what you want to do what’s gonna happen with Cory Le he’s going to sit his ass on the

Bench that’s what you’re GNA do they’re going use that option like I hate doing that where you’re not filling a position because eventually that Prospect is going to or projects to be that guy no fill that spot up now and if that guy is that guy you can have like they do with

Danny Janson and Alejandro Kirk and who’s the guy who’s now in uh in uh in Arizona the catcher they had two years ago Marino it’s good to have options they trade him away they get better players that way that’s a good problem to have you don’t just keep the position

Open just because the guy is going to be eventually coming up there I think that’s a stupid thing that’s what the White Sox did when they didn’t have uh you know a catcher coming up and maybe Zack Collins was coming up sorry they went and got um my guy

Guys manik grandal and so that is the way you do it you sign players who are good and don’t worry about the prospects coming up if they do come up and they’re just knocking on the door you trade them or you get rid of the veteran that you

Just signed in like I said he’s only got three years left so theoretically what 25 is KIRO time he supposed to be coming up why can’t he wait till 26 why can’t he just go somewhere else I mean I don’t know it seems like he could possibly be here in

24 uh I don’t know about that but I guess the point to Herb’s point like I think that you’re first of all you’re right right why would you deny yourself the ability to be better but the way that teams think I think you really got

To look at again what I was just talking about earlier and it’s the the the schedule right the the idea of when you’re contending Trading a guy trading aloy Jimenez for a position that you think you’re going to have covered when you when you are contending next is that

Maximizing aloy jimenez’s value when you can get yourself pitching that might be able to better serve your needs a year two years down the line if they were in a position where they could win the division this year and all they and they needed to improve at catcher it’s like

Slam dunk of course do it and I think a better catcher than what edar Carol ever will be but my point being you don’t wait two years on Edgar Carol when you’ve got when you’ve got a need right now their needs are needs yes but they’re in a season where they’re not

Expecting to contend it’s about maybe maximizing the value of the guy that you’re either a the guy that you’re trading or B the money that you’re spending what did you say about Alejandro Kirk and what he’s a really good catcher currently in the major leagues and he was a really good hitter

The years before this past year he fell off the table but you’ll take Alejandro Kirk’s career over Edgar Caro yeah I’ll roll that dice I don’t want to look at KIRO and say man he’s gonna be good you know they did that actual good right now you know they did that with Moreno

And Mareno is way better than the catchers they got and they shouldn’t have made that trade with VAR they should have traded hel Andro Kirk or Janson before the year hey man they just have a good stable of catchers there they have a a embarrassment of riches

Which I wish the White Sox had let’s take a breakan They have Max stassy and Edgar Carol forget about that Cory Lee um hey I didn’t even bring up Carlos Perez uh Vinnie should we bring up electric vehicles because it is getting bit easier for businesses to switch to

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We should combine our our trait to get the maximum amount of pitching uh in this because I also have the Blue Jays of a trade partner okay um you were saying the white sock are looking for a trade partner maybe I read that you would think yeah I read that as Dylan CE

Yeah her herb took that as another way to ship aloy am Menace out of town hey we just spent yesterday talking about could they trade aloy or or yoan this uh this winter so why not uh combine this and Herb could go get his Alejandro Kirk

Catch wants or or Danny jansson need to prove a catcher uh and and why don’t you go pick out uh a funky left-hander from the bluej system a guy that is uh a top of their organization Ricky tan okay a former third round pick I know this is

Going to light up all the the the the chat boards um mainly just Connor commenting um but tan is 21 years old uh he’s a lefty sits around 96 milph has three pitches that are over over Major League average his change up slider and forcing fastball and his fastball and

Slider are currently graded at 60 which would be above average so he’s got two above average pitches already as a 21-year-old on a 20 to 80 scale of course on a 20 to 80 scale makes sense which as we know is ridiculous it makes

No sense yes uh so he got he gets a I guess what a B+ uh for his fast ball and slider and he gets like a a b to B minus on his change up not a lot of guys even have uh C’s on their secondary rating

Scale makes no sense I don’t know I’m just trying to make it more approachable and their top 30 he where one wow they’re number one Prospect yeah that’s what open your ears I said that would he do that would they do that well for

Dylan CE I mean yes I know Dyan is one good right now actively in the Major League Baseball is that all the trade you’re going to have or he’s also not like a former first round pick like he’s a former third round pick but no I I I

Think like you know I we want pitching and I think that I was listening to Brian banister talk on inside the clubhouse and he said they want uniqueness a lefty already unique uh what 13% of the population is Left-Handed I made that up um that seems

Low I think it’s 10% of the population really it’s even lower where did you get that my my butt you know I me I remember back in the day you approximately 10% yeah it used to be like very uh uh thought poorly of if you were a left-hander yeah like like literally in

The in the country like if you’re Lefty he like G get out of here the humans been have been around for 5,000 years and just for the past 4,050 we have uh started accepting the lefties tolerate lefties what are you doing thank thankfully um but yeah I I

Think uh Connor’s chiming in saying uh Luis Robert will be required for tan or CE that’s what I’m saying is CE would be the the team that you want a package now ceas and aloy for Alejandra Kirk and their number one Prospect I don’t know if I I could leave out the alloy

Alejandro Kirk you’re teaming up with you’re teaming up with her say You’re Gonna team up with me you gotta trade alloy away but like I I I I think everyone understands that when the white sock are going out to get a a package for Dyan C they are likely going to want

Two top 100 prospects uh hopefully that team that is acquiring them have two top 100 prospects in their uh in their farm system uh tan is that he’s a top 100 Prospect um but he brings uniqueness and that’s what Brian banister has talked about he wants uniqueness in the pitches

That they’re finding him being a lefty already unique uh him having uh as uh fangraphs writes up a unique delivery style um we already know like Chris Sail um very tough to just pick up because it’s not repetitive it’s not the similar arm uh slot that you’re used to seeing

In Major League Baseball it throws off that timing you have three pitches like this would be the perfect guy to replace CE with um C has three you know above average pitches already his spin is next level the white socks really can’t I feel lose that type of talent tan is

Projected to be an All-Star already um I I think like you you if you are looking for the cream of the crop like the best Prospect to acquire for Dylan CE that would be my wish would be to get a guy like tan and I don’t think there’s many

Guys like Tian in Major League Baseball and his ETA is now he’s 21 so I mean this is like like Christian Mana young uh so was probably 25 then I would assume it’s 2024 yeah so I mean2 level is he 2024 he pitched mostly in double A and had four

Innings in Triple A okay oh yeah he’s ready to go yeah he’s ready to go andan he and that would probably be my thing and I think if we agree Chris gets and Jerry rinor thing where you’re not trading a guy like Dylan CE for a guy

That’s three years away or two years away even MLB ready or MLB people are ready so I’m good with anybody you bring back that has got a track record like that but with so many other teams available I know that the Blue Jays have that nice piece but do they have another

Piece CU I think that’s good but for Dylan CE and who he is and the years available he has and the money that he’s available for right morn Tedman more than Kirk more than like if you have another Prospect and another top pitcher be great right well that’s the thing

Though is like they they have an outline of what they’re looking to get and it’s it’s clear that they want you know obviously the most Talent possible but I think getting the like the right Cornerstone is more important um I mean the White Sox when they were trading away sale obviously

They got those two amazing pieces from uh the farm system at the time in monata and copc it hasn’t played out to the way that you hope um but a lot better than them not reaching the majors at all like I mean there’s still hope for copc and

Matata did get a $75 million contract so it’s not like they picked the wrong guys uh it didn’t seem like the Red Sox wanted to give up Des um so like you don’t know how prospects will turn out yeah but that seems like a guy that just

Has so much uniqueness to him and hey I mean he didn’t even have that great of a year at Double A I mean he had like a five er um he also had a 16k per night yeah pretty sick and I was checking out the uh phnx Diamondback show and they

Were trying to trade for CE also and they didn’t really bring up names but if we’re going on that same track record of trying to get more highly ranked highly thought of the guy that we were talking about the guy that came here and shot the white sock down and Brendon fought

That’s a guy that I would be like yes give me him give me um another maybe Major League guy in the Outfield I don’t know if Alec Thomas is you know hitting your fancy because he did play well in the postseason but but his offens and numbers during the regular season no

Great shakes but his defense is awesome I don’t know if you want that as your right fielder but if you bring Brandon F and Alec Thomas back to the table I’m thinking I’m looking I don’t think they’re giving you Brandon fought he’s going to be in their starting rotation

And they just signed at R Rodriguez I I think they they got playoffs on the mind but you don’t think they’re like okay we got D CES for two years they got fought for Kelly for two years and we got uh gallon G gallon for two years we’re

Going to try to go at the Dodgers now now F might be great eventually but we know CE might be great now for the two years we got him and we can go head-to-head with those Dodgers I don’t know F might be pretty damn good right now

Might I wouldn’t I wouldn’t go away from a guy that just had that kind of like turnaround CU once they sent him down to uh Triple A and he came back 70 Innings and he had a 422 er um and then obviously he had the run that he did in

The postseason I I don’t I don’t think that they’d be given up fought um at least would you take that though F Thomas yeah okay I’ll makeing sure I mean I would take I at least just I mean maybe I I wouldn’t need Thomas um but if

If F’s coming over and he’s like the Cornerstone yeah I’ll take that absolutely um orelis Martinez is also a top 100 Prospect for the Blue Jays those are the only two that they have uh in uh tan and orelis um I’m not sure uh what

Orelis I I did not do research on orelis but I mean if those two are a part of the Blue Jays pack package for CE I could see it happening like that’s the thing like I don’t know who is going to be the actual winner of this SE sweep CE

Sweep stakes and obviously the Braves and Oriol were reported by Nightingale to be the favorites but I I don’t think that that’s going to I mean we we don’t know what can happen from here to whenever he’s actually traded uh let’s take one more break and then we’ll wrap

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That you can pick up at the jewels all over the place but you can get Brewery exclusives over there in Westtown I was drinking the polar peel winter wit it had a little ginger in it oo it was nice and festive also had myself a Sophie which of course is another Mainstay of

That Goose Island beer roster but boy I tell you what it’s a good one they support us over here at C chgo they are always supporting us during so many of our events of course too uh but here’s what you got to go do you got to grow go

Over to The Tap Room on Fon Street in Westtown uh they’ve got Brewer Brewery exclusive beers like I said you can buy some Goose merch over there which I was eyeing as well and you know you can even get a soft pretzel which who doesn’t

Want that with oh yeah warmed up oh yeah exactly and you know the the the the one over in Lincoln Park uh closed its doors uh recently but I think there’s going to be uh some more Chicago locations coming soon uh we’ll just leave it at that but

Hey Goose Island we love them they’re Chicago’s beer go give yourself go have yourself rather a honking Le good time this holiday season honk honk uh all right well let’s wrap this up let’s put a nice little bow on it uh we got through all of our wish

Lists well there’s one there’s one more thing that I think might be on the socks wish list was of course we’ve talked about are they done at catcher I don’t know we haven’t heard from Chris gets since they got Max stassy you Sean ran through last week a very sensible

Potential outcome in which they’re not paying this guy much the Braves paying most of that $7 million salary do they just bring him to spring training is one of several competitors I would tend to think not just because he seems to check off the boxes that they were looking for

Veteran defensive minded knows how to handle a pitching staff can go kind of either way depending on how good Cory Lee is this year doesn’t he can top the depth chart he could sit behind Cory Lee on it so I’m not sure but I think it’s worth having that conversation because

The possibility does or there just do seem to be numerous possible outcomes with that considering that we haven’t heard what the White Sox plans exactly are yet yeah and I don’t know I could we’ve seen the Jonathan luk Cy thing before I mean maybe it’s even like a a

Gary Sanchez thing uh the angels are apparently reportedly interested in uh Blake Snell maybe they don’t bring Gary Sanchez to perir with uh Blake Snell and Sanchez really doesn’t find his team U maybe they end up giving him a major league invite to Camp or something like

That I I I I could see that like I don’t think they’re going to be aggressive in the catcher Market you know I don’t think they have a guy that they’re they want to go out and sign that they’re like oh we’re going to go set the market

Or not even that like like I I don’t think they’re going to we’ve talked about a lot of guys who are not I don’t think people are busting the doors down to go get a guy who’s batting around 200 and and playing good defense but that

Might be exactly what the White Sox need and so maybe there are moves to come I don’t know I’m it just because just because of the mystery right now I think we can include it as a possibility on that wish list a 100 days away from opening day also Bullpen too didn’t

Bring up the bullpen they need like 12 Bull Pen pitch but then like think about the white socks if they have an analytics person people in their room they’re counting the runs that they’re going to score and they’re not there so now you need to go and get an offensive

Catcher if you don’t have an offensive right fielder or offensive second baseman and then for run prevention you need some arms in the bullpen and maybe the starters who don’t make the rotation just automatically downshift to Bullpen arms but you know the volatility of every year toe bull pins is going to be

Very and so I think the White Sox have to find a way to get more offense even though I don’t like Gary Sanchez he provides power that the white sock dearly need and it doesn’t look like they’re going to be in the right field uh market for somebody like tasar

Hernandez who brings power or Adam Duval who brings power so they need to get some power from somewhere else but why are they why do they dearly need it you use that they they dearly need like they’re not trying to win I mean why are they not trying to win because look at

The way that they’re spending I understand how they’re spending but they’re trying to do run prevention that’s why they’re getting all the starting pitchers that they’re getting that’s why they’re getting the Paul the youngs and the Neil Nikki Lopez of the world they’re trying to prevent runs and

Now they need to score runs that they’re trying to just do that situation where the RS comes down or RS goes up and the runs against go down they were one of the worst Major League Baseball and so they can do that on the cheap by picking

The ball up on defense by getting starting pitchers and Bullpen people but now they need to get people who are on the margins who can hit home runs and drive in some runs so their RS goes up but homers cost money not really Gary Sanchez doesn’t cost that much money

Tasar Hernandez will cost money adal won’t cost that much money her if they were trying to make the RS go up they’d stop getting guys who’s on base percentages are under 300 yeah but they’re thinking like Paul D young is a wash offensively with Tim Anderson what

Tim Anderson gave you last year but at least you get the defense is saved right there so that’s a net gain at Short Stop same thing for uh second base and catcher so they just need people who are going to actually hit home runs in the positions that they need to hit home

Runs in right field and if they can’t get it in second base might as well get it at catcher because they didn’t get it last year at Catcher And you can give away a couple of those uh prevention because Gary Sanchez is not a great catcher but he’s a serviceable catcher

But he can hit we’ll see I I I don’t know I mean you I I surprised you didn’t put Gary Sanchez in the wish list I like Alejandro Kirk better but I know that’s a it’s a pipe tree you you like JD Martinez He he’ll bring the homer so you

Brought him up that’s another person yes um all right and I was working in the white sock prameters me if it was my money I would been already at the top of the market but you I know the white socks are there not there and never will

Be well and that’s the thing is like feel I couldn’t even get Wade Miley you know we’re going to go get Gary Sanchez all right that’s going to wrap it that’s Vinnie duber go read his piece if you haven’t up at algo.com and follow him at Vinnie duber

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Joe creedy uh thank you to Sarah for producing the show and we’ll talk to you tomorrow Goodbye we all sitting like the mayor sh