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Talking Points: how many is too many for one trainer in the Grand National?



Should trainers be restricted when it comes to the number of runners they can have in the top handicaps, like the National at Aintree? That was just one of several hot topics discussed by Paul Nicholls, Dave Crosse, Dave Yates and Tom Stanley. Our star panel seemed to agree to disagree! #horseracing #horse #horses

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13 Comments

  1. Elliott and Mullins each had 5 in last year's National – none of Elliott's runners actually finished and Mullins had just 2 that got round, finishing 3rd and 14th respectively – in all of the handicaps at last season’s Cheltenham Festival, I believe Elliott only had more than four runners in two races – the 26 runner Coral Cup and the 21 runner Martin Pipe and the closest any of his runners finished in either race was a 5th place in the Martin Pipe.

    Incidentally, I don't remember the Powers at the time wanting to restrict Martin Pipe when he was saddling 10 National runners in the 2001, 8 National runners in 2002, 7 National runners each in 2003 & 2004 and 5 National runners each in 1993, 1994 & 1998……or at the Festival when he ran 6 in the 2002 Mildmay of Fleet and had the 1st and 2nd or the 5 he had in (what is now) the Pertempts Final that he won with Unsinkable Boxer or the 5 he had in the County Hurdle which he also won. Funny how the only trainers likely to be affected by this potential new rule is Elliott and Mullins……….I am sure that is just nothing but a coincidence.

    The BHA have raised an issue that is a non issue and quite frankly they have much more important matters to be dealing with than trying to solve a problem that is not an actual problem in the first place.

  2. Why does the programme allow Mr Yates to filibuster through the really interesting topics about doping in racing. Stinks of a closed shop.

  3. WTF! Does anyone see what is running along the edge of the carpet here! More bloody messaging that the vast majority dont want/need to see. Who are you catering for? The Alphabet gang or the racing supporter. I am sick of this invading every sport. Sport is where we go for however long it lasts for that particular day/s. Theres enough going on in the world that we want to forget about for at least a short time. Now our sports are being invaded by political and extremist views. They get a full month of the whole year and yet, we are pounded by it everyday. God only gets xmas day. What makes anyone better than him in a Christian country.

  4. The whole Tony Martin section in this was pointless … no conversation or opinions about it at all.. just boring Yeats givin the details that most people already know and then the topic wasn’t discussed by the panel… ridiculous and pointless

  5. Should the BHA not be trying to attract more runners to all the other races rather than spending their time and effort on restricting entries to top handicap races. They are all paying the entry fees that make up prize money etc. Trainers/Owners would get round it anyway. Would some horses be temporarily transferred to other yards or satellite yards run by other trainers etc. e.g. could Gordon transfer some to Denise Foster?

  6. Typical Liebour politician who doesn't have a clue what he's actually talking about, why have these people on the show?

  7. As someone who has worked in a bookiesfor years, Greyhound racing is on the way back, and horse racing will be left for dead soon..

  8. This rumoured rule change is directed at one trainer , Gordon Elliot , disliked by the establishment because he worked his way up from nothing .

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