WHAT Happened to MIZUNO Irons? Have they lost their FEEL, or have they kept it in the Blade option and actually expanded their MP Mizuno Pro Irons range to now include more technology to allow more golfers to play them???
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39 Comments
Best set of clubs that I have ever owned and first set of Mizuno's, JPX 923 tour irons, First time using them shot 1 over 73, not bad for a 7 handicap!!! I think they feel great and they are pretty soft metal for sure. I also have KBS lite tour shafts 95 grams in them helping my ball flight.
Appreciate the history lesson. Very interesting. I previously played MP69s and then played a few other makers until recently. In my quest to get that same feel, went with the JPX 923 HMP and didn’t care for them…tried the 225s, and 223s, same thing…wound up with the 221s and absolutely love them. They remind me of my MP69s, but much more forgiving….
I used to have the Mp52 then the mp30, stopped buying golf clubs.. 15-20 years later, wife said go get a new set.. bought miz pro 225 .. sold them, pro 223, sold them.. they do not feel at all great!!!! Bought miuras and now back to the feel!!!
Unfortunately I used to love Mizunos, but no more 🙁
This year (2023) Mizuno his putting out 8 different sets of clubs. I have JPX 921, MP 32, MP 58, and MP 57, they are all set up for different skill levels and they all feel amazing. You HAVE to get fitted for Mizuno. They haven't lost anything just evolved for different skill levels.
I love my MP-20's. Truthfully, I don't see the forgiveness drop off so common in the narrative
Used every MP blade iron since the TP9 (all within the last 4 years) and the best stopped at the MP4. The MP5 was a joke and the MP18 was a good return to form but for me Mizuno accountants had a word with marketing and in turn had a word down the line. It wasn’t about the golfer anymore, but how many golf clubs they could sell. P7MC feel better than an MP20 for example.
I went from the JPX921 forged to the I230 and h/c dropped 14-11. only difference is slightly louder but games far more consistent with the Ping
Very, interesting. Sounds like we feel with our ears! I think this is true for golf balls.
Feel? You only feel and hear it after the ball leaves the face.
Imagine a tournament where the Pros all had to use the same exact golf clubs. Shafts, heads, grips. Oh, the stories they would tell as to why the clubs, the scores, didn't measure up to what they normally used. But, with all playing the same off the rack, unmodified club, we might find who is the better golfer is in managing his total game.
Good Good stopped using them. RIP, Mizuno.
I wish more companies had this type of historical layout on their website
I played Mizuno Hot Metal irons for years but made the mistake of comparing them to Ping and PXG irons. Goodbye Mizuno. 😢
I played mizunos for years tzoids mp14 mp 30 mp53/68 combo 53s were blah mp20mmc/hmb combo now on Srixon zx7 great feel
Still play mp30 in the winter
Ready for some pings because they do everything
Whats your opinion on the MP-59 set? I'm currently gaming the pro 225 but am hitting them too far, looking for something slightly more traditional. Found a used set of MP-59's for $150.
Holy shit. Just realized the MP 30s are exactly like the Precept Tour Premium CBs. I always heard that club was made by Mizuno. Been playing those Precepts since 2006. The only difference is offset it seems? Maybe there's more but the cavity and the design of the club is the exact same. Let me tell you, when you hit those clubs well, it feels like you hit a waffle ball, it's like you only hit air. It's the coolest and best feeling.
I still play the MP 60. I've hit all of the new ones and couldn't quite put my finger on why I didn't quite love them. Now I know! I suspected the forging process or materials had changed. I rekindled my love for the aesthetics of Mizuno with the MP 18 MB. Just cant pull the trigger as I still love my MP 60s.
Well, feeling is a very subjective thing…. I for myself nevermore owned a Mizuno bladed iron set for a simple reason, they always were shorter (0.25) in the shaft length than standard Titleist irons for example. The reason is simple, people in Asia are not ad high grown as people in the modern western world. Now mizuno realized this fact andato since the Mp20 series they took the international standard, for example 37 inch length with a 7 iron. Ar this day i decided to test Mizuno blades and i compared them with others made by Titleist or taylormade. And they felt way better! The taylormade p7 mb are awful, they feel like a thick rocket. Tge Titleist clubs feel okay but the mizunos feel really powerful and elegant hitting them in the sweet spot. But if i compare the mizunos with my honma blades which i got from a club maker 25 years ago (anders still using!), i feel a difference between this japanese blades. The honma blade is still much more powerful and sounds "deeper" than the Mizuno blade which maybe is a touch more "elegant". If I now take a Miura blade then it's more like the honma then the Mizuno. But all these blade's from Japan are in a own league compares with the popular brands! My actual set is very very old and if i find a set of mizunos in my size, maybe i take them… Or better a set of Miura? Hmmmm…. We will see
Have had several sets. When they went with Boron in the JPX 850 Forged it was a little harsher feel to me. The various HMP versions are also different but I've adjusted to them. They are not bad by any means. Still have the 850 Forged I'll play some when I want a little softer feel vs HMP.
Best iron I have used to date and have in my bag as of today are the MP20 HMB’s 3-PW. Great performance, feel and consistency. The balance of performance and forgiveness is unmatched by any other club and I do not even feel the need to try out the Pro 225’s
Why do so many male and female ture players play Shixon instead of Mizuno irons?
the 223s are amazing! I had the 919 and 921 forged and tour blended sets…and the 223s are so much easier to hit, more forgiving, longer and look better. Really nice <3
Do you know if they will make the next mp in left handed?
I had a set of Mizuno MP-33 irons, 2-PW, with TT DG S300 stiff shafts that I played for about 12 years. Regardless that I am just an average middle handicapper, they made me fall in love with forged blades. But we all get older, and it got to be hard for me to hit a 3 iron more than 165 yards carry, I didn't even carry the 2 iron, and the gaps between my 3, 4 and 5 irons shrank to around 5 yards if that. So a year ago at age 81 I sold them. I sold the 2 and 3 irons to a young guy with a fast swing and low single digit handicap. He was playing his father's MP-5 irons. He hated his utility club, hit too much left, and was in the shop at my range looking for a 2 iron. They had none. I let him hit mine, and it was amazing and sheer pleasure to see the ball rocket off the faces in a gorgeous trajectory, 240 with the 2 ad 220 with the 3. I let him take them to a tournament to play, and afterward he bought them. I was glad to see them find a good home. Then sold the 4-PW to the fiancee of a neighbor whose tall son just got accepted on his high school golf team but who had no decent clubs. I also had a set of MP-67 irons 3-PW with Aldila NV green MLTi Pro stiff graphite shafts. Last year sold those to a tall young staffer at my range who also proceeded to hit them they way they should be hit. Now I play a set of forged blades called Chicago Classics that look and feel almost exactly like the MP-33s. They were produced by Bob Evans, who was director of tour operations and then of production management for MacGregor Golf. He and a partner had their own small company from1987-95 that had forgings done in Taiwan, where MacGregor had its forgings made. My range happened to have bought several dozen sets of heads when the owner wanted to get into club building. The pro I go to, who is also their master club builder, had made up a set for someone else who apparently complained about one thing or another so the pro, annoyed, said the heck with it and just put the set out behind the counter for sale. New, unhit heads, Royal Precision Rifle Lite 120 gram stiff shafts (developed by Kim Braly before Royal Precision was sold to True Temper along with his Rifle line). I just happened to luck into them for about what one would pay for a single iron these days. I really like the feel and sound of these. They have traditional lofts. Played with them for about 3 years but had to admit the shafts were a bit heavy and strong for me now, so I studied and tested shafts (am a techie nerd for things like that) and had the pro build another set of the same heads for me (he has them loose in old boxes stuffed underneath the bench in his workshop!!) with Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff shafts that weigh only 87.5 grams and were specially developed to feel like graphite. The cost for heads, shafts, Golf Pride MCCC-4 grips and labor was about 40% of the cost of a new set of Mizuno Pro 221 blades. Am keeping my first set of Chicago Classics maybe for one of my sons.
Apart from my long comment about my own experience with Mizuno blades, I want to thank you for your explanation of these changes. No one else in the golf business, and I follow at least 20 different ones on YouTube, has ever explained this. By the way, I hit a JPX 223 forged 7 iron the other day at the local PGA Superstore I belong to so I can use the indoor practice bays with Foresight GC Hawk launch monitors and screens. Wanted to compare it with my own forged blades. Not bad, but as you say, not buttery. I was intrigued that the loft is just 30 degrees. It's stronger than my 6 iron. And the results shown by the data were almost the same as I get from my 6 iron, but with less peak height. So why should I spend $1,500 for a 3-PW set of new clubs when I can just take my 6 iron instead of a new stronger lofted 7 iron. It boils down to gaps and knowing how far you hit each club. And the old pocketbook. I look forward to your analysis when the new Mizuno's come out. Thanks again.
Im still playing my T-Zoid Comp EZ and they feel great, but am I missing out on all the new technology?
Had mp18 SC very soft, now playing 223 soft and amazing,
I was sort of surprised that if the copper underlay tech was soo good for feel, that it wasn't rolled out further. One for the next models?
Still think the MP-32 was the best feel I have EVERY hit. Pure shots almost disappeared. Now hitting 921HMs, and the feel of a pure launch is really special, you can feel the slingshot! It's underrated vs "blade butter".
If someone wanted to give me a set of 223/225 to play with, I'd love to compare….. 😉
Great timeline. Moved from MP60s (beautiful feedback and quite pure, but you needed to strike it from the middle) to JPX921 Tour/ Forged combo. Feel is similarly fantastic. The main thing for me about Mizuno irons is the consistency of distance control. Drop offs are small and the ball doesn't jump all over the place. You have confidence in achieving the yardages once you know your numbers. Enjoyed the overview
I love Mizuno but there are too many options. When combined with all the shaft options it’s so hard to decide what the best option should be. Have 3- game improvement, players distance and players.
I was fitted for a new set of irons a few months back and I wanted to go with Mizuno. I tried the hot metal pro, 923 forged and the pro 225. The fitter also threw in the cobra forged tec, Taylormade p770, the p790 and the Srixon zx7 and zx5 MKII. The best feeling club for me was by far the Srixon, I was blown away, and the dispersion was the tightest too, very consistent distance’s. I had the zx7 and zx5 as 1a and 1b so I went with a mixed bag. The second place club for me was the Mizuno 923 forged. Don’t sleep on the Srixon, they’re incredible clubs, and they’re a bit cheaper too!
Mizuno are so overrated.
I played MP 57and 59…loved them…but I switched to PXG larger face, more room for error.
In the recent past I thought about this and arrived at the same conclusion.
For context I owned TC29, MP29, MP Grad, Tzoid, MX23, MX200, jpx 850, jpx 925, MP 62….then gave up on Mizuno because nothing felt like those MP 29’s.
Just a couple of weeks ago based on your review I went back and got the jpx 9253 forged and the jpx 923 hm pro.
The hm pro feels incredibly nice to my surprise.
The jpx 923 forged feels hard on 4-7 and very good on 8-gap.
I actually prefer the hm pro and I totally fall in the “feel” category preference.
Just goes to show that acoustics plays a huge role contrary to what I thought would be a strictly an engineering process manufacturing thing – Forged vs cast.
If I could have it my way Mizuno would run a production set of the old MP 29’s now matched to modern shafts.
But to stir the pot a little more I’ll add that “nothing feels like a Ping Blueprint”😂😂😂😂
I just wish they would show more love to the lefty’s. i have the sel 921.
Give a set of 221s to a good striker ; they’ll tell you how good is that buttery feel and a sound that almost feels like nothing 😊
The 223 maintains the cooper underlay and yes chromoly with slots too …… still an amazing FEELING iron ❤
I still own a set of MP33s, a set of MP67s and until this year a set of MP20 MMCs. All of them have great sound and feel. Nothing has happened to Mizunos imo and I have owned 12 sets of Mizuno irons over the years.