Is This POINTLESS Club DAMAGING Your Game?
Matt Fryer tries a golf club that could be damaging your game!
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35 Comments
Surely you should judge the driver and 3 woods based purely on the shots made with each club. The criteria should be distance and deviation from your intended line. Subsequent shots and putts have no bearing on the score between the two clubs. The fact that you hit a bad driver, but had a happy outcome, doesn't change a bad shot into a good shot.
I use my 3 wood off the fairway on par 5s, and off the tee when there is a dogleg and I can reach the trees with my driver, especially in the summer when the ball rolls on much further.
This would be a better test if it wasn't done by a scratch golfer and instead a 15+ handicapper.
I rarely tee off with my 3 wood but use it on every par 5 second shot.
Matt, can you imagine there are also 30-handicappers? 😂
I usually prefer driver off the tee … and on the fairway 5-wood instead of 3-w … lifts off better (if I hit it well)
Use my 3 wood quite often off the fairway and on the tee box very useful club
Good video but the scoring part of the test was a bit strange, you hit an average pitch then had the same again on the par 5 straight after, good players rarely get it wrong twice and while the stats back it up and there is no debate, less club is easier, you hit a below average approach on the last hole that left you in trouble not the fairway found and one club less. You also in the last graphic have 50 yards carry distance, this is not the average, folks arent carry driver 50 yards further than 3 wood and neither is your average on the day. Its all just very selective numbers to prove a point of which I dont think it proved it anyway with how many were wayward and could have been a lost ball for a less skilled golfer. Interesting video.
I hit my 3 wood 250+ reliably so really no need for a driver.
Would also suggest on tight driving holes choke down a couple of inches with the driver for more control and accuracy without much distance loss, something I rarely see anyone do.
dang that's some crazy stats, I'm a 10 to 15 handicapper usually and my driver goes 275 and my 3 wood goes 245. I must just be awful at short game.
These comparisons are so bogus. I mean you are assuming good strikes on both the 3 wood and the driver. What if someone finds the middle of the 3 wood more often than the driver? hummm well i'd say the 3 wood is better and of course the opposite is true if you find the middle of the driver more often. And to keep going into the green trying to see which one will produce a par vs birdie etc is also bogus. Thats down to wedge or iron play and putting which has nothing to do with driver or 3 wood. I play every weekend with an older guy. He's in his mid 70's he hits his 3 wood straight down the middle even though it may only be 180 yards its straight we dont have to go looking for it in the heather. Also he is awesome with his short game he consistently shoot in the upper 60's on a par 70 course. oh did i mention the 3 wood was an old persimmon ping eye 3 wood. Thats right I get my butt handed to me each week by an old man with a 40 year old 3 wood. To sum up. Hit whatever will get you in the fairway and make pars and birdies who cares if your buddies occasionally hit it 300 yards 5 times out of ten. lmao thats 5 times they are in the woods ending up losing a stroke and taking a drop
My 3 wood is set to be the fairway finder, with a lower trajectory. My driver thus becomes an all out max club.
Got rid of my 3 and 5 woods and got a TS2 4 wood a couple of years back and was able to make room for a 3 iron. Have much more confidence in the 4 wood than my old 3 wood. Don't use it off the tee, but a lot on par 5's second shot.
I have a 3 wood for one shot shape, the power draw.
I feel more comfortable with driver so long as I have at least 230 yards of room for a 3/4 power swing otherwise I'll gladly hit a 3 or 5 wood to land on a shorter fairway. I've learned my lesson outdriving the fairway into the bunker… having wished I didn't carry 245 :c to me no club is pointless if you can make use of it.
Pete peve/rant. Golf needs more statisticians. That stat about 3 wood not hitting fairways meaningfully more than driver is never brought up with the right context. Why is a 5 handicap hitting 3 wood instead of driver? Because it's a tighter hole. So yes, 3 wood isn't hitting more fairways because it's being brought out on the hardest fairways to hit.
I don't know why the misinterpretation of shotscope and arcoss data really bugs me.
I play both; Dr for 80% of tees, 3w for a handful and from fairways too far out for my 3i
My father-n-law doesn't have a 3W in the bag. Driver, 5W, 7W. I have a 3W but not sure I'd use it if I could ever hit my driver.
I am a little surprised you laid up and didn't try to hit 3 wood into the Par 5 second. I feel like you would have got on, or really close. I find the only reason I use 3-wood is if there is serious trouble that could cause a lost stroke around the driver distance, like the DECADE system says. Try to always get as far down the hole as possible.
I carry a 4 wood its so accurate off the tee
I find 3 wood harder than driver for some reason 🤷♂️
You should use driver.
Personally my 3 wood is there for shorter tee shots not as a replacement might hit it from a tee 2 times a round when driver will put me exactly where the trouble is if offline by 15 yards each side of centre fairway I don’t include bunkers in this only oob/penalty areas that will cause me a reload or drop I hit driver as often as possible as the closer I am the more greens I hit in regulation according to shotscope
As a 16ish hcp, off the tee ill do driver all day. Only reason I take 3w off the tee is to setup at a shorter distance for a second shot. for longer par5's though have to use 3w off the deck, I dont hit my 3h far enough to crack it that far. Should note I do use a High launch version of the 3w so its 16.5* so more like a 4/5w? I cant hit 4/5i to save my life, but 3h and 3w I can just blast.
I hit three wood off all par 4 and some par 5. Three wood is just much more reliable
If a player can hit both clubs on average equally well/consistent with the main difference being distance then the circumstances of the particular hole may warrant hitting one over the other. Laying up short of a hazard, leaving a fuller shot, etc.
My local course is relatively short yardage with lots of doglegs and blind drives. Depending on the wind, temperature, etc it’s good to have options.
Personally I’ve got a 3 wood and 5 wood in the bag right now and both are averaging similar distance (using Arccos) so likely will drop one in the coming weeks for something that’ll give a different option.
Having a 3 wood is very dependant on how well you hit your driver and also the length or layout (having a dog leg) of the par 4's on the course you play most often. I have 1 course I play that the 3 wood comes into play more than my driver, and I'm comfortable hitting either. But yes on Par 5's and straight away Par 4's its Driver for me.
Got rid of my 3 wood last year replaced with a 5 wood. Great decision. My driver is fine mostly.
3 Wood is no good, especially for guys with trouble getting it up.
Swing speed makes a big difference. The slower the speed at less the difference
The driver has been naughty quite some time so 3wood from tee for me if it's not wide open.
I don't agree that driver was necessarily better as your shots weren't always consistent. I'd still like to have a 3 wood in the bag.
That's crazy on the yardages. I hit around180 yds consistently with my 5 iron and I'm closer to 20 handicap. Don't have a 3 wood in the bag tho.
Is there really not that much difference between a 3 wood and mid iron?
It's the consistency and predictability of the 3wood for me.
My 3w goes around 240 carry with a smaller variance and dispersion; my driver might be 260 carry but it's wildly different everytime. Sometimes it can be 210 sometimes 300.
When i step up to the tee, i want to know what distance i'm hitting without taking the chance… 3w for me!
I use a 3 wood for long drives of the fairway wouldn't dare use a driver off the fairway
I disagree with this notion. Completely depends on the player. I use my 3 wood on tighter par 4's as the dispersion is much lower for me. I also use a 3 wood on par 5's as I am not a long hitter.