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There is an easy way to keep yourself rotating around the spine and it's to do with the right and left hemispheres of the brain. Push the club away with the left hand and strike down with the right for a right handed player. When we start the back swing with the trail arm this causes the spine to sway backward yet with the lead arm it doesn't. I have problems with trying to get my hands to work perfectly together so to help my swing I don't even try. "you can't hammer a nail using both hands" so one hand back and one hand forward.
Those TomSaguto tips are amazing. One of his best (for me) was the aim shoulder to the ball. (which problly he didnt invent it) but i heard the explanation from him tho… and once i start doing that wow…. like my hits were doing at least 80% better contact on the ball. and i remove so many thoughts during the backswing… that it made it far way easy. i think the secret of golf is to find a backswing that has only 1 or 2 thoughts when doing it. the less the better Great videos as usual Dummy. hehe Amigo Chad. ohh and other thing like all teachers give different explanations but you learn from all 2 or 3 tips that they accumulate and create your own style… which i think its the thing to find.. your own swing like Moe said.
I believe the secret is in the dirt. Practice range Practice range Practice range!!
There is so many different methods on how to swing. The scratch or pro players are all different in their swings but at impact they are basically the same. Maybe compare video of amateur swings to pro swings and try to emulate that. But most amateurs won't put in the work to get better. 1 or 2 hours a week at the range won't cut it. Need to go 5 times a week. Like weight training. Wanna lose weight? Put in the work!
Love your videos!
Thanks for the vid Chad – and I actually get anxiety from the bevy of internet golf instructors out there. Had to just settle on a couple that fit my physique. One question – how is your grip? Is it the classic Ben Hogan, a little stronger etc? How did you work through finding the right grip for you. Working through that now. Thanks!
What drives me crazy is, instructors that say the following.
1-Game changer.
2-99.99% blah blah
3-The secret is?
4-hit 300 yard drives secret move
5-chip like a pro the no duff move.
6-Single plane blah blah.
But I agree with the quite spine, one of the focuses I ended up using among 3 or 4 other things.
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Leslie Neilson used to say that the only thing you learn from golf lessons is that you don’t learn anything from golf lessons 🤭 but I had an instructor about 35 years ago who used to place his hand on my head and tell me to only think about turning round my spine., so the truth is out there. Great channel most educational thankyou. 👍🏻
I know it’s probably been answered before but what projector are you using? I’m getting the same DIY enclosure from indoorgolfshop
I was taught, when learning cricket, to think about what to do with the bat and its path. I was taught the same when learning table tennis. When I first started playing golf I just tried to hit through the ball and my body did whatever it wanted. It was when I tried to get more distance, add spin and play more like the better players in my club, I took lessons. All that stuff about grip, setup, body position and rotation etc come into play. Now I play no better than I did when I first started. What bothers me most is that I cannot seem to get back to the simple golf stroke I had in the beginning. I'll take your advice about having a single and simple swing thought and try again!
I agree with so much of this. There are more swing guru's in the comment section of most videos than YouTube instructors. Guarantee you get few on this video. So much of what you said align with my own feelings in my swing. We overcomplicate this game. Great video!
Thank you as I believe this is the best advice you could’ve given us. 😊 superb content. Could you explain your weight shift if any?
Hi Chad. Loved everything you mentioned in your video. In fact many of your swings I saw were absolutely perfect and pendulum as well.
I noticed this by watching your mike attach to the center of your shirt doing its angular momentum pendulum swing in conjunction with your body doing the same
What is angular momentum?
Angular Momentum is The Real Golf Swing. It is a series of cooperating opposites. Another words where you go; your club goes opposite of you
Angular Momentum is seen in all great golf swings. It looks complex and difficult to achieve; but taught correctly becoming engrained into the golfer’s mind and body it then becomes the easiest and finest golf swing anyone can and should do.
For example at the transitional part of the downswing of many professional I can see their hands slightly turning counterclockwise as the head of their club is opposing their hands turning clockwise. And so regardless whether a golfer’s swing tends to be under the trail shoulder or over the trail shoulder the golfers muscles and hinges continue with the tug o war between them and their club to the finish of their swing.
Angular Momentum is the real golf swing and yet I believe that very few PGA golf professionals teaches this concept to their students. Porzac Golf is the only one on You Tube that I see are actually teaches their student how to precisely execute it.
Angular Momentum is the simultaneous swinging of the golfer’s club in a lineal direction combined with a rotational direction. Like love and marriage; you can’t have lineal direction without rotational direction in a real golf swing. Even slightly separating these two distinct directions from the other is why most of the golfers in the world are at best boggy golfers. And golf PGA teachers can earn a decent living.
In order to achieve this essential complex diagonal swing momentum; the golfer needs to know that their swing centered circle must be anchored on their grip of their club with their trail little finger.
Yes! Their little trail finger; as it is the only part of their body that their brain can actually feel the weight of their club head opposing them as they are swinging their club less in less then 1&1/3 second time
The Trail Little Finger is the only part of your body that your brain can begin to sense the weight of their club head as it consistently is traveling on it’s slanted circular path directly to and through the ball.
Swinging their club back and forth and learning to feel it’s weight with their trail little finger along with a properly taught setting up to the ball; the golfer will begin to feel the folding unfolding at the various hinges of their body naturally as they begin to actually feel the weight of their head club at the very start of their swing
Do you recall Ben Hogan way back when he instructed us on the Ed Sullivan show to swing our club back and forth starting with a small swing and gradually expanding it to a full swing?
Back then he demonstrated the true golf swing of angular momentum; but he held back what it actually was and that he was using his trail little finger to do it.
Hope for continual success in your channel
I have and can testify the the little trail finger is the key my great golf swing. And could be fantastic knowledge for even good golfers such as you. Cheers ⛳️👍😃🥂
Great information. One section of Top Speed Golf is entitled, Stable Fluid Spine. Hard to strike the ball without it.
Enjoyed this one so much I watched it a couple of times. Lots of common sense observations on your part. Keep up the good work.
Most golf instructors purposely make golf complicated, especially on YouTube. They all try to entice you with a magic bullet, which doesn’t exist. I’m a math and science guy, so I follow the science of the swing and it’s ball flight. I also watch the women’s tour players in slow motion, so I can see how they move. It has helped my game tremendously. Through trial and error, I discovered the swing, tempo, trigger and swing thoughts that work for me. Everyone must discover their own and it takes a lot of hard consistent work. I can say that without a doubt the swing is really 3 dimensional: rotation, lateral and vertical. You need ALL 3 of these to be a good ball striker. Unfortunately, video only show 2 dimensions, but there are actually 3. What I did was to sort out my grip first then my club face and shoulder tilt back and through, and most of the other things worked themselves out. Fixing these 3 things fixed so many other problems: path, attack angle, ball then turf, compression. Very few wild slices or hooks, tops or thins. These 3 things aren’t sexy, so most instructors don’t talk much about them or, worse, they don’t understand their importance in the swing. I know I’ve rambled on far too long, but these things are that important to our swings and they will fix many of our ailments. Cheers.
I remember hearing Bob Charles say he never had a lesson and did what all the old timers in his day did…just try to swing open to closed around your body and aim and fire away…nice and simple
Chad , Tom Saguto and Jess Frank teach the stack and tilt system. They are able to work with students and have immediate results by doing the things you just described. Stack is being centered ,Tilt is side bend , and in addition you have extension which is the tucking your hips. Allow your trail leg to straighten in the back swing.
Another very well thought out and professionally delivered video. Well done!
Great video!
The first time I watched a PGA Tour event in person, I was amazed at the economy of movement in the pros. How did they exert seemingly so little effort yet the ball went so far? It took me a few years to realize, but I came to the conclusion that a stable spine angle was key. Here I am trying to get my hips, knees, etc., in certain positions (creating pain and injuries), when the secret (for me) was maintaining my inclination to the ground (Saguto), letting the arms drive the swing, and allowing hips, knees, etc., simply respond to the arm swing in a supportive role (Toski/Flick, de la Torre, etc.). The result has been a lot less pain, more solid shots, and plenty of distance. Hmmm…maybe the old guys had it right all along!
Your spine is a curtain rod. Curtain rings attach hips ribs and shoulders. Turn the slabs around the curtain rod. Every ring turning at the same speed and on the same plane. It's an excellent image.
I agree with your analysis. There's so many ways to swing a golf club and some styles are more complicated that others. I've tried body driven swings which throw the arms, left arm swings which pull the club through the ball and right arm powered swings as the engine. For me, the latter works best with my limited flexibility due to age. It was a great journey but that works best for me.
The entire duration of a golf swing is about 1.2 seconds.
Besides grip, stance and address position, in reality, there’s not much else you can do besides a consistent swing tempo.
To many swing thoughts can be paralyzing. Reverse C painful over time, shoulder plain sensible with spine angle what works for you is best.
you make so much sense it should be called dollars! WELL DONE!!
Great stuff Chad, I love that you go through the same pain that we all go through trying to get better at golf. This is great advice.
In my opinion we keep jumping from tip to tip because there are so many. As a society today so dependent on cell phones we have the answers to all questions right at our finger tips. And with freedom of speech comes opinions and there are alot of opinions on everything so long story short we are over informed and under experienced
The majority of golfers don't play the game of golf, they play a variable of golf. All strokes are not counted and rules are not played the same. That's why the hdcp. index has come down. We all see it every round with other golfers. 25 years ago golfers tended to post scores that were played within the rules of golf. Now I don't see that most rounds. The number is skewed. JMO.
I’ve been going through much of the same progression that you describe here with the level of overly detailed golf instruction. Your description of a more simplified approach makes a lot of sense. I really love your channel and listening to a better-golfer-than-me instead of a golf pro allowing me to drink from a glass rather than a firehose lol
Nicklaus, for all that he talked about it, actually lost his spine angle noticeably coming in to the ball. His upper spine moved back and his head moved to the trail side and then he turned to the lead sight very rapidly and fired the trail arm very powerfully. This tends to happen with players that fire both knees in a bit of a slide past the ball through impact instead of the trail knee following the lead knee around in an arc (like Mcilroy for example) during the downswing and also helps cause the reverse C. Watson was much better at retaining his spine angle overall. A lot of very good or even great players lose some spine angle (look at Jimmy Walker especially before 2016 PGA win, but even after somewhat).
The bigger factor is hip depth and especially the two together. You won't find any very good or great pro that loses hip depth in the downswing because this is the death blow to consistent power especially with longer clubs because you can't deliver the trail elbow and arm through the ball with significant loss of hip depth. This is because you need to be able to turn immediatlely to the lead side in order to effectively deliver the trail arm and you can't when your hips are coming forward.
In the video "Fix My Inside Takeaway" you could see in the DTL view that you were losing spine angle and hip depth during the downswing.and I think that you would see the same thing with this one with the same view. You are tending to push the club too far behind you in the backswing and then I think that the loss of hip depth in the downswing helps you "throw" it toward the front of your body during the downswing at the cost of being able to rotate the trail arm into a good firing position. These 2 elements, loss of hip depth and an overly inside and low takeaway function as a pair and relate to each other, I believe. That is, you drive the club behind you in the backswing because you "know" (have a strong habit) that it's coming forward with your hips in the downswing. I have wondered in the past if this is all made necessary by your problem with trail wrist extension but I have proven to myself that you can still maintain hip depth and fire the trail elbow well with very limited TWE by using the wrists a bit differently in the backswing.
In the final analysis, as I have pointed out before, the arc of the upper lead arm and the club must reflect the path of the lead shoulder and upper chest in order to be able to freely swing the club around and into impact on plane but right now your lead shoulder move out, around and up while you lead arm moves in, around, and up as does the club and there is just too much of a mismatch there for the club to have room to come down well.
Since the 2 things mentioned above function as a pair, I don't think that you will be able to "break them up" unless you find a way of "forcing" one of them not to happen and then the other one will have to change as well. The easier one to check and monitor during the swing would probably be hip depth. In any case, I would love to see you be able to fix that problem and really be able to hug that trail elbow to the trail side in the downswing and I'm sure that you would enjoy it too but of course the hard thing would be the process to get there which would take some commitment. Anyway, just my well-intentioned thoughts. Cheers.
Watching IRON BYRON hit balls I've used that swing and it has really helped.