Today we look at the new 2022/23 iron Mizuno 923’s , are these golf clubs suitable for high handicappers?
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The iron order is from left to right std , HL , pro. Tbh can’t see the confusion my golf spy had an interview with Chris Voshal and it all is very clear. From mizunos data from the swing dna they realised that players with slow swing speeds gain nothing much from crazy lofts beyond 6 iron. So they produced the HL for that golfer. Simples
comment was at the beginning of the vid as I thought you were going to say the penny had dropped.
Too bulky for me all of them. They have these 3 at the clubhouse I golf at theres just too much to look at. Ill stay with my P790's
Not sure its that confusing but I guess when they leave reviewers alone without a review by Mizuno. TXG and Mygolfspy did good interviews with Vosh on this loft discussion.
Can we get a word count on confused.
I agree with mizuno in there marketing, I find a lot of new golfers with speed and need help but struggle with launch and spin these hl would help.
Hot metal pro then hot metal, and last boot metal hl
Andy, i'm old school. I want a forged iron with little offset. Not a forged iron face. So i'll wait for the Forged and Tour reviews next year.
Interesting comparison. Confused me too. At the moment not in the market for new irons.
BINGO! I play the 919 Hot Metal Pros & I've bent them weaker, except the 5 iron, so that they are basically the exact lofts of the new HL clubs – i.e. 47,42,37,32,28,24 – 32 being my 7-iron. My driver swing speed is 105'ish & I carry my 7-iron 172-yards. I find these lofts to be perfect – traditional @ the short end, a slightly stronger 7 iron than 34 traditional, and then my last iron is a 5-iron at 24 degrees. The insanity of these new lofts is just completely stupid
I'm 71 and my swing is slower my 7 iron is 28 degree and I lose distance because I can't get it high enough so higher loft would help.
Highly recommend, watching there my Golf spy video/podcast as it explains all this very well
Andy Chris Vosh clears this up, you have got to remember the change in the balls as well!!!!
They look pretty much the same ish as the last models or do i need to visit specsavers
Callaway was first in weakening lofts for the most forgiving irons, the Rogue OS Lite, with the same reasoning that fewer and fewer golfers have the swing speed to even use a 6 iron with lofts closer to a 4 iron which is a problem given that fittings now usually are restricted to a 7 iron. Very good Mygolfspy video interviewing Chris Voshall of Mizuno which cleared up some things for me.
Hi loft is lofted higher! What is confusing about that.
for those who find it confusing watch the TXG video done with club designer Chris V. all explained perfectly well to the point it makes perfect sense. but if you watch that and are still confused well …
My PXG gen4 xp’s were weekened 2 degrees for better launch
The problem is the new irons are basically a lot stronger, the old 7 iron had 36 degrees, now a 7 iron has 32 or less, a little longer in length, so you are hitting them further, but your just hitting a longer club. As long as the club's help no problems, but pro's and low amateurs, want control
Not confusing
I can see something in the discussion, I have a set of Maverick Irons in one bag and set of Inesis 500 Irons in another bag.
Mavericks are stronger loft by 1-2 degree, but the Inesis 500 Irons pound per pound go further by 10 yards.
I had it down to a better COG and MOI allowing the sweet spot area to be greater.
The Mavericks feel great but just fall shorter. My full 6i with Inesis is 190 yards, Mavericks 175 for a 6i.
I’m unsure why we need 8 varieties of Mizuno iron. We’ve got the 221, 223 & 225… I understand the Hot Metal option but who are these irons targeted at?
The 921 hm and pro, 923 hm and pro all have the same lofts
Looks like HL is close to the forged lofts.
I think the logic is a little like how Bryson (extreme case) sets up his lofts.
7i @ 25* and
PW @ 40*.
The point is to control spin and descent angle for the faster swing speeds.
Slower swing speeds don't benefit from a 28* 7 iron they knuckle at 3000rpms into a green at a 35* landing angle. They need help with launch and spin.
the hl is designed simply get the ball up in the air…its not about distance. Callaway did something similar last year.
you can also order theses irons 2 degrees weaker or stronger.